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Aguike

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO and it has no enough reliable and secondary sources to meet the requirement for WP:GNG Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:43, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Shaddy Jay

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Fails WP:MUSICBIO Ibjaja055 (talk) 11:13, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The Wind (band)

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Discovered page after the South Korean boy group of the same name. [1] and [2] don’t work. The only sources are a mention of the band and an interview, don’t see a reason to be kept. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 08:23, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Adedoyin Oseni

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No enough reliable and secondary sources to establish notability. Only few advertorials by mostly unreliable media, no album and winning of unreliable award Ibjaja055 (talk) 08:29, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Therese Moodie-Bloom

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Doesn't meet WP:GNG, WP:NBIO or WP:NACADEMIC. Can't find any secondary SIGCOV. AlexandraAVX (talk) 10:49, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete? Can't see any notability yet. Xxanthippe (talk) 11:18, 10 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Delete. Nothing in the article rises to the level of notability. Although we can have articles on people with significant media coverage despite no significant accomplishments, that requires depth of coverage in independent reliable sourcing that we also don't have. Searches didn't find anything better outside the article. Not quite an A7 speedy, but close. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:34, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eatliz

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Non-notable band. Searches show up only one newspaper article, and most links to their music on various streaming sites. (Note: searching for the band's name in Hebrew is practically impossible, since their Hebrew name just means "butcher shop", according to Google translate). WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Added the band's three albums. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 18:44, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Lynn Davis (singer)

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Fails WP:GNG. A lot of this article relies on Discogs links, leading to a timeline of album appearances or background vocal appearances. The proclaimed singles "I Want You for Myself", "Indigo Waltz", and anything else mentioned does not list her as the singer or featured singer. Furthermore, this articles fails WP:SINGER. There is a dead "Billboard World Music" link which simply stated the release of her song "Can I Come Over" but it never charted. Everything else is unsourced and there are sources available to support the information in the article. Sackkid (talk) 04:23, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment 163 incoming links to the singer, usually in song lists saying "(featuring Lynn Davis)". I've listened to two such songs in youtube, and (at best) there are undicernable female background singers in it; no mention of her on the cover. If I had to guess, I'd say the singer's wiki presense largely exaggerates her actual influence. – sgeureka ^t•c 13:04, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nom. Catfurball (talk) 17:35, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Madhur Sharma

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Previously deleted https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Madhur_Sharma. Still doesn't fit WP:NSINGER or WP:GNG BoraVoro (talk) 14:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: Why did you choose AfD instead of WP:G4. GrabUp - Talk 15:24, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Clearly fails WP:N. Youknow? (talk) 08:33, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: The subject fails to meet WP:GNG and WP:NSINGER. It could have been speedy deleted through WP:G4. GrabUp - Talk 05:06, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mlaka Maliro

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Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. Can't find sufficient sources to establish notability in any context. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep or Redirect to: Music_of_Malawi#Lucius_Banda,_Evison_Matafale_and_Mlaka_Maliro I found lots of GNG. WP:NMUSICIAN states that:

Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart: in this case, subject had the album titled Dzanja Lalemba that was the bestseller 14 years ago countrywide. Subject is also the pioneer of Malawi Contemporary Music and one of the country's notable musician [1]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/.
Has released two or more albums on a major record label: subject has released 13 albums under the renowed and the first band in Malawi, the Zembani Band, owned by Lucius Banda [2]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-soldier-set-for-stage-reunion/, [3]https://mwnation.com/mlaka-rolls-back-hands-of-time/ . I found this that talks about subject. I also found records in printed books, see here, and this in Dutch , this too, etc. To me this provides GNG that can be used to sustain the article per WP:NEXIST.--Tumbuka Arch (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

E-Dee

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. The references that are presently used in the article mention him once or twice, at most. A possible alternative to deletion is a redirect to Out the Gate (film), in which he starred. toweli (talk) 18:06, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alfred Momotenko Levitsky

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BLP does not meet WP:COMPOSER, WP:MUSICBIO, WP:NMUSICOTHER or even general. The "awards" are not prestigious but merely submissions to ensembles (Prix Annelie de Man Ensemble Black Pencil Prize, 150-Years-of-Music-Technology Composition Competition Prize) that "award for performance" in keeping with sites such as composersite.com. Heavy COI that results in sources that are either primary or closely related to subject that mention or preview works. Notability by association in list of compositions (a companion piece for Les cinq doigts by Igor Stravinsky, a companion piece for All-Night Vigil by Sergej Rachmaninov,, Companion piece for Das Lied von der Erde by Gustav Mahler) without real content within a Career section. Stating premieres (The world première was at Koningshoeven Abbey on Saint Cecilia's feast day, 22 November 2014., world premiere was present during the opening of the 25th edition of the festival at De Doelen in Rotterdam, conducted by Valery Gergiev), musical organizations, conductors, etc is no different than any other contemporary composer having their works performed around the world today yet no article representation here at WP. Mere filler and WP:FLUFF content.

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Keep: Ironically, given that I was the editor who previously nominated this article for AfD discussion, I believe it should be retained. Subject meets criteria 5 (the Gramophone review of the recent Ondine release calls it the subject's "major-label debut")[4] and 11 of WP:MUSICBIO, as well as criterion 3 of WP:ANYBIO. However, I do agree that a lot of the self-promotional language needs to be cut. But that does not warrant deletion. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 15:46, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Granted your observations may be correct. However, you mentioned #11 (Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network), can you specifically back those claims with RS found within the article? I am finding dead links and non-links. As for Criterion 3: as well, what "biographical dictionary" are you talking about found within the article? Thank you. Maineartists (talk) 17:11, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Here are the sources in question:

1. worldmusicdays2019.ee. 2019. No longer exists. The site itself is self-promotional by sign-in members.
2. muziekencyclopedie.nl is not an "Encyclopedia". The actual site is: muziekweb.nl/. It is a Dutch lending library. It lists BLP's album Creator of Angels.
4 a,b,c,d,e,f is not a continuous "rotation nationally by a major station". It is merely listing the same broadcast of the BLP's works similar to other musicians featured on the same radio program "Recent broadcasts from Concertzender Amsterdam Organ Park".
5 is the same as 4. Other musicians are also listed multiple times as featured "in residence".
7, 8 & 9 are same.
11, 12, 13: Orgelpark again.
18. Primary to BLP website
19. Same as 4
20. Deadlink
24 & 25. Same as 1. No longer exists. The site itself is self-promotional by sign-in members.
26, 27, 28 no longer exist or bring to a different page.
30-34 are shared with other composers. Not notable specifically to BLP.

Maineartists (talk) 17:43, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The links from Concertzender, which is (or was?) the Dutch public radio channel, establish criterion 11 of WP:MUSICBIO. Criterion 5 is met without question; that alone is sufficient rationale for me to vote "keep". I'm not sure what happened to subject's entry at Muziekencyclopedie. Presumably it was moved elsewhere. At any rate, the entry is archived here, which qualifies it as valid per WP:LR, WP:MDLI, WP:KDL, and WP:DEADREF. —CurryTime7-24 (talk) 19:43, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You keep saying this: "The links from Concertzender, which is (or was?) the Dutch public radio channel, establish criterion 11 of WP:MUSICBIO" but provide no additional sourcing. Just how many "links" are you seeing on this page? Criterion for 11 is for "bands, singers, rappers, orchestras, DJs, musical theatre groups, instrumentalists, etc.". Meaning, charting, Billboard, i.e. Taylor Swift song playing No. 1 in the country continuously (in rotation) across national radio stations for weeks at a time. The BLP's radio play was a singular event at the Amsterdam Organ Park. The dates next to the pieces listed on the one-event program are not when they were aired but when they were written. The program was radio-played only once; not in rotation. Please provide additional sources that show a national radio station (or stations) that has played the BLP's music "in rotation. He would have to have a work that is played by classical radio station(s) in rotation; i.e. Taylor Swift. However, I do see the correct link to the Music Encyclopedia (now "Sound and Vision") entry that is basically a three-line bio taken from his own website. If this is what qualifies for entry at WP, then at the very least, this article requires a heavy, heavy scrub and re-construction. Obviously, it will pass this 2nd AfD so I will start reassembly off-site. Thanks Maineartists (talk) 02:40, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep The article is a qualified disaster, however the Grammophone[5] and Volkskrant[6] reviews are sufficient to keep. There were articles also in the regional press. Urgent cleanup! gidonb (talk) 14:59, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COMMENT I am at tendency toward agree at the moment for keep; and I will most certainly be going in and attending with strong intent for an intense cleanup, but it can wait until this closes. Gathering consensus for a complete overhaul will allow a Talk Page reference as to they "why" without the need for debate. I expect there may be push-back due to the COI issue at the article. As well, there are RS being brought here that are not at the article itself that will come in handy; as most sources are now defunct, dead or primary. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 15:20, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

COI can be cleaned up. This is an example of a composer article that I clean up every now and then. So it doesn't contain the information that the person would include himself. It's still an important resource as this composer is constantly played by wind orchestras ("bands") and other ensembles around the US and hence is frequently read. Worthy both of the composer and of WP. Actually I created this one after the bio had been unjustifiably banned. It has the tendency to turn into PEACOCK once in a while. gidonb (talk) 15:36, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"this composer is constantly played by wind orchestras ("bands") and other ensembles around the US and hence is frequently read." Where? Please provide sources to back this claim. So far, I can only find performance sources within his native land. Thanks. Maineartists (talk) 18:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Click on the linked "this" to see to which composer I refer. gidonb (talk) 19:16, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

??? I'm refering to Alfred Momotenko Levitsky. Not some other composer or their article. So far, we are just talking in circles here and also on the article page as another editor is merely citing sources about the same two things: Orgel Park concert and Creator of Angels CD. But nothing new has been found. There is still no evidence of "rotation" on radio. Aside from the one mere mention in a music publication, all that's being done at present is overkill of sources about the same two achievements. Maineartists (talk) 19:32, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

What other editors write does not apply to my opinion. I showed you what a cleaned up composer article may look like. Otherwise I have nothing to add. Neither do you, it seems. Rest assured that I had read the intro before forming my opinion! gidonb (talk) 20:17, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jim Campbell (singer)

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Declined A7. Singer does not seem notable enough for a standalone article. An online search mostly shows results of a musician from Chicago who is unrelated to the subject of the article in question. CycloneYoris ^talk! 07:22, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Notability is not inherited from notable groups he has been in, and I see nothing significant in reliable sources to support him having his own article. Coverage appears to be dropping his name in the context of these groups. Maybe redirect to The Dapper Dans. Stefen Tower_{s among the rest!} ^{Gab • Gruntwerk} 21:40, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Revenge Wife

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Fails WP:BIO. Schierbecker (talk) 02:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Gabardine (band)

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. There's a brief biography of the band on AllMusic, it's mentioned in a review of another band's album ("Bemberger, Hughes and Peterson also played together in an obscure band called Gabardine, which released one EP before disbanding in 1998.") and there's another description here (I have no idea if Hard Noise is reliable). toweli (talk) 15:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to Saddle Creek Records. It's hard for one-release bands to have gotten enough coverage to meet WP:NBAND. That being said, Gabardine is tied to other bands through former members, making redirect a better option than delete IMO. Geschichte (talk) 10:44, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Confy

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Article subject does not show up in any online searches except for YouTube, social media, and one website newtimes.co.rw. My previous edit was to remove almost all of the article sources (almost all pointing to New Times articles), which were simply puff pieces and did not factually support anything in the article. Celjski Grad (talk) 11:11, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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MC Daleste

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WP:NMUSICBIO. Discography consists of one (non-charting) album, with no awards or notable label work over a short career. Sources in both English and Portuguese focus exclusively on his death with no coverage of his music, which is reflected in the article. 💥Casualty ^{• Hop along. •} 20:27, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep There is significant coverage outside his death. Some of these sources can be found in the respective article in Portuguese at pt:MC Daleste, which has significant "Biography" and "Career" sections. Skyshiftertalk 21:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Notable both when active as an artist and for his murder. Svartner (talk) 22:38, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle James Hauser

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I have carried out WP:BEFORE for this BLP about a musician, and added an interview to the External Links section. I cannot find other independent, reliable, significant coverage to add - there is a footnote about his teaching in a book about music education, but I don't think it's significant enough to add. I don't think the existing references demonstrate that he meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:NMUSICIAN. There are few secondary sources listed; the best may be the concert announcement in Connect Savannah. Redirect to Rapidgrass is a possibility, but he was performing before joining them, and is only mentioned in the article about them as a past member. Tacyarg (talk) 19:36, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Honey_G (rapper)

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Non-notable reality TV contestant. She has had no career beyond being a novelty act on one series on The X Factor, with no success in the industry outside of that. SnookerLoopyOneFourSeven (talk) 15:20, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2024 August 5. —^{cyberbot I}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 15:47, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep Notability isn't a measure of talent; it's a measure of significant coverage in reliable sources. Subject is still getting coverage years after X-Factor. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:56, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. The link is to a disambiguation page. It should be Honey G (rapper). Athel cb (talk) 16:14, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Leaning keep as to both the individual, for whom flash-in-the-pan coverage is coverage still, and the disambiguation page necessitated by their ambiguity with another equally obscure topic. BD2412 T 16:54, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Aoora

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The person is Not notable to be added in the Wikipedia. The article is entirely promotional. The references are just some 'fashion style' non reliable non notable sources.

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Keep AfD is not clean up, just tag the article with promo tag. There is a lot of sources talking about him on Google News. Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 22:12, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep: I remove the fancruft and looked at the sources presented in the article and elsewhere. Being a former bandmember of AA (band) and being on Bigg Boss has attracted quite bit of press, making Blp1e inapplicable. Discard some of the unreliable sources, PR, and focusing on features such as https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/tv/news/hindi/k-pop-singer-aoora-ventures-into-the-tamil-music-industry/articleshow/107967147.cms and https://www.dailyo.in/social/who-is-k-pop-singer-aoora-and-why-was-he-singing-woh-kisna-hai-in-mathura-41781 reveal Aoora’s notability. CherryPie94 🍒🥧 (talk) 07:38, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

David Merriman

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Repeatedly moved from draft by conflicted user, this clearly fails WP:NFILMMAKER and WP:NMUSICIAN. Theroadislong (talk) 17:25, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Misinformation corrected in regards to record deal not being secured -evidence of such clearly provided in articles . Personal information removed about family, as is appropriate. Denseem (talk) 08:45, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No point of view of skew was taken on this articl, simply correcting inaccuracy and removing personal information Denseem (talk) 08:51, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Denseem, you don't need to make 5 nearly identical comments saying the same thing. It can discourage participation from other editors and the best way to come to a consensus to have sufficient editor participation in deletion discussions. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 00:38, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the duplicate comments, leaving only one copy behind. Left guide (talk) 11:03, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Weak keep I see 1.5 good sources about him - the AL source is substantial; the first Irish Times is brief but is about him. In the rest he's listed as a collaborator with not much about him, or they are interviews. I didn't find anything else about him. NOM seems to be correct that there are COI issues and there appear to have been possible WP:SOCK issues as well. Good to keep an eye on. Lamona (talk) 16:53, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
two Variety articles and Screen magazine are substantial sources in the film business. 77.75.96.206 (talk) 14:01, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The problem is that those articles are not about him; he is only name-checked there. So those don't count toward notability, even though they can source some information in the article. Lamona (talk) 16:57, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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City of Lions

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources (or really any coverage). toweli (talk) 14:57, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Couldn't find WP:SIGCOV that would satisfy WP:NMUSIC. Longhornsg (talk) 04:20, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Willy Decker

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Questionable notability. I could find limited sources with a Google search to satisfy the inline citations template. Therefore probably fails WP:GNG. TrueCRaysball ^💬|✏️ 02:17, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Someone who directed a Henze opera world premiere and is listed in Who's Who? is notable. I have no time to look today but will next week unless this is closed by then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:26, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Base One (rapper)

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I found no significant coverage. The only three references in the article are interviews, with two of them being on unreliable sources. SL93 (talk) 02:24, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Klover

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I'm not completely sure that this band is notable. I was able to find a description of the band in Trouser Press, a brief review by Robert Christgau (!), a brief review by Visions [de], and an interview with a bit said about Klover. Edit: Wow, I didn't even notice that two of those are already linked in the article. toweli (talk) 00:22, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The sources uncovered by the WP:BEFORE are good. A bit slight for a standalone article. Therefore a slight merge to Gang Green#Second hiatus (1990–1995). There are a number of possible redirect targets; I chose this because of what Trouser Press wrote: "Klöver has roots in the mighty tradition of Boston’s Bud-guzzling skatepunks, Gang Green, in the persons of guitarist Chris Doherty and drummer Brian Betzger. [...] As of early ’96, however, Klöver had folded and Gang Green was back in action." Geschichte (talk) 08:19, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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There are usually some reliable sources to be found for major label albums released before the early/mid-2000s, when both the print media and music businesses were healthier. There are mid-to-longish articles in The Morning Call, The Boston Globe, and Telegram & Gazette, with reviews in the Daily Herald and Daily Breeze. An entry in the Encyclopedia of Punk Music and Culture--can't read it, but I'm sure it's only a small paragraph or two... Caro7200 (talk) 23:45, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manto (musician)

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I'm not finding much of anything in a BEFORE search on this musician other than YouTube videos of a few of their performances. None of the usual press reviews of notable musicians. The article is part of a walled garden on the Munshi/Munsi family. Of the current citations, the Ghosh book is used as a source in all of these Munsi articles, and it is not clear if it is a connected source. The Eklund source is connected as an extended family member. The musician does not meet inclusion criteria for WP:NMUSICIAN nor WP:GNG. Bringing it here for the community to decide. Netherzone (talk) 18:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jasën Blu

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Nothing in this article makes the subject inherently notable, literally. Fails WP:NMUSICIAN or WP:GNG. The sources are run of the mill coverages and PRs for singles and so on. The few others that aren't PRs are promotional puff pieces. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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While @Vanderwaalforces is correct about the status of this article's subject specifically regarding WP:NMUSICIAN, it does seem to fair slightly better by WP:GNG given a number of the citations point back to reliable sources such as major publications. Also, the subject appears to be an up and coming musical act with not very much but nonetheless, a number of verifiable articles citing solo works and in a few more cases, co-citations with notable subjects via creative associations. On a recent edit to this article, I noticed a few bigger publications confirmed hitherto unverified sections, and replaced the citations on the affected section. If the subject is essentially an upcoming musical act gaining decent coverage for its works, a better alternative might be to watch article for a while for any improvement on its adherence to WP:NMUSICIAN, before an outright deletion. Kevtutado (talk) 01:47, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Henna Singal

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Does not pass the notability guidelines for WP:MUSIC. Released one album with a few singles that did not chart. Not via a major label. Karst (talk) 11:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Medwyn Goodall

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This appears to be a vanity page for a musician. While his body of work is extensive, I cannot find any substantial online coverage of him to fulfill WP:BASIC or WP:MUSICBIO. The second reference states that he has topped the UK music charts twice, but this appears to be a fanzine of questionable reliability and I can't find any mention of him at the official chart website. ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 08:32, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I've searched the official charts database, and I agree with the nominator, I am unable to find evidence of charting (though potentially it could be so far back in time to not be available online), including under his alternate name. However - there is a WP:RSMUSIC Allmusic staff bio available, which is both non-trivial coverage and confirms gold-certification. Potentially with more verification and coverage this may be a keep. ResonantDis_tortion 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Found this Billboard mention that one of his records sold 50,000 copies here, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:42, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
HELLO ALL - I am the ARTIST - COMPOSER/recording artist. This page looks as though it was originally created by fans. However I do ask it is NOT deleted WHY >> I am an international award winning artist (instrumental music) 6 gold disc, 1 platinumn and a life achievement award, at least 4 million fans international. I also own a record label managing other artists. A 33yr career. My own radio show also. UK based. Numerous hits. Career is still ongoing. Instrumental music doesnt tend to be found in charts or have the hype of pop music so whilst I am not as trackable you will find me all over itunes, spotify, Amazon, Facebook, youtube, google, as one of the most famous artists of my genre. Medwyngoodall (talk) 19:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

HELLO ALL - I am the ARTIST - COMPOSER/recording artist. This page looks as though it was originally created by fans. However I do ask it is NOT deleted WHY >> I am an international award winning artist (instrumental music) 6 gold disc, 1 platinumn and a life achievement award, at least 4 million fans international. I also own a record label managing other artists. A 33yr career. My own radio show also. UK based. Numerous hits. Career is still ongoing. Instrumental music doesnt tend to be found in charts or have the hype of pop music so whilst I am not as trackable you will find me all over itunes, spotify, Amazon, Facebook, youtube, google, as one of the most famous artists of my genre Medwyngoodall (talk) 19:40, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

These are the notability guidelines Wikipedia follows for keeping articles on musicians: WP:MUSICBIO. We need reliable sources (WP:RS) to show the article subject meets the criteria. At present it's unlikely there are enough sources, so if you can provide such references that would significantly help. (Note I have been unable to verify the Gold certifications via the British Phonographic Industry website, so help on that would also be useful). ResonantDis_tortion 07:04, 10 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tip the Van

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I wasn't able to find significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources. toweli (talk) 00:38, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete unless someone can find multiple independent reliable sources that devote significant coverage to this band. I couldn't. Cullen328 (talk) 01:08, 30 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey Cullen328. I'm not sure if these are the sources you are looking for, but here are some that I found.

CT Newspaper - Hartford Courant

https://www.courant.com/2019/12/13/tip-the-van-reunion-tour-stopping-at-space-ballroom/

https://www.courant.com/2007/08/02/a-slam-bam-thank-you-to-some-grand-bands/

CT Newspaper - New Haven Register

https://www.nhregister.com/news/article/Spring-Heeled-Jack-reunites-Friday-and-Saturday-11600584.php

Archive.org copy of the Vans Warped Tour Site from 2010 listing the band

https://web.archive.org/web/20100415160948/http://www.vanswarpedtour.com/warpedtour/bands.asp

Wikipedia Article Listing the Band Having Played the Vans Warped Tour 3x

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Warped_Tour_lineups_by_year

Ticket Listing from a CT Music Venue

https://spaceballroom.com/e/tip-the-van-reunion-show--82671932977/

Interview with the Band

https://v13.net/2010/08/interview-with-tip-the-van-singer-nicole-oliva-and-bassist-bryan-howard/

Michigan Newspaper Listing the Band

https://www.mlive.com/entertainment/flint/2010/07/rocker_andrew_wk_returns_to_hi.html

Concert Listings

https://www.concertarchives.org/bands/tip-the-van--2?page=1#concert-table

Concert Review

https://duffguidetoska.blogspot.com/2009/11/duff-gig-review-across-aisle-tip-van.html

If you need more sources to keep this article, I'm happy to keep digging. 137.99.142.26 (talk) 13:57, 5 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
About the Wikipedia source one, It absolutely does not qualify as reliable source per WP:CIRCULAR Warm Regards, Miminity (talk) (contribs) 01:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The only source out of those that could possibly contribute to notability is the first one, the others just mention the band or aren't reliable sources. Interviews don't establish notability, although the pre-interview portion has a bit of commentary, so there's that too, I guess. toweli (talk) 01:19, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Carla Guevara Laforteza

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Very highly advertorialized ("known for being one of the most fearless and versatile Premiere Leading Ladies", "She enjoys watching movies, baking, and absolutely enjoys Cake, Fried Chicken and Pizza", etc.) WP:BLP of an actress and musician not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for actresses or musicians. There are statements here that would be valid notability claims if they were referenced properly, but nothing so "inherently" notable as to exempt her from having to cite proper sources just because of what the article asserts -- but this was "sourced" almost entirely to IMDB pages, Wikidata items and other Wikipedia articles, none of which are acceptable or notability-supporting sources, and after stripping those out all that's left is three short blurbs that aren't substantive enough to get her over WP:GNG all by themselves if they're the best she can do for proper third party coverage.
I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with much more knowledge about Philippine musical theatre than I've got can rewrite it neutrally and source it properly, but it can't be kept in this state of writing tone and sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 13:58, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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thanks for your comment, we are now currently working with the revisions of the article, the person in this article is also involve now in the revision. Thank you. Jhenie1326 (talk) 17:46, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please familiarize yourself with our conflict of interest rules, because "the person in this article is also involve now in the revision" is the worst thing you could possibly have said here. Bearcat (talk) 18:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

thanks just for the verification of the information, however the info is now being updated as per the article published by the news or legal website, please be patient.. thank you for your help. Jhenie1326 (talk) 18:55, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete or Draftify. I went through the references, which were inconsistent in formating, and reformatted many of them. I also checked to see if the refs support the information. They do not support the Education and Personal Life section. I also do not see indepth sources; most are brief "fluffy" bits. As it looks like this article is recent and is still being worked on, draftify may be the best solution. Lamona (talk) 03:46, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Robin Davey

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None of the sources presently used establish notability (either due to not saying much about Davey, or not being RS, or not being independent), and I wasn't able to find significant coverage of Robin Davey in reliable sources, only mentions. There also seems to be COI editing in the history of the article, such as edits from User:Growvision01. toweli (talk) 13:47, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to The Canary Effect. This film seems to be his greatest accomplishment, but I do not find sufficient sources about him to support an article. I agree with NOM that the sources in the article are very weak, and I didn't find anything better. Note that there are other Robin Davey's who show up in a search, mainly one who is an animator based in Berlin. I'm pretty sure that is a different person but I couldn't prove it. Lamona (talk) 04:06, 31 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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