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Template:Roadrunner United[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:49, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

As a list of contributors to a compilation album, subject is not concise enough to be useful as a navigational aid. --woodensuperman 13:18, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep - Template links more than 5 dozen musicians and five songs from Roadrunner United: The Concert. --Jax 0677 (talk) 14:46, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
And that's the problem. Linking over 60 musicians in a navbox because of a compilation appearance is not appropriate for a navbox. The placing of this navbox on any one of their articles is WP:UNDUE. This should be left for the article. --woodensuperman 14:48, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
(edit conflict) And the songs don't originate from the project either. --woodensuperman 14:50, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Reply - "Roadrunner United was a project organized by American heavy metal record label Roadrunner Records", therefore, this particular album was released by a musical ensemble. --Jax 0677 (talk) 18:30, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete If this is the only reason to link Hatebreed to Trivium, it's not needed. A number of the linked articles here that I checked don't even mention the project. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 00:06, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 03:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom. The article is surely sufficient for this. Nigej (talk) 09:00, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete - The album page should cover all of it. --Stephen"Zap" (talk) 16:29, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox lacrosse team[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox sports team. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Infobox lacrosse team with Template:Infobox sports team.
The only 2 parameters that I see being an issue at all would be |steinfeld_cups= & {{{plpa}}}. Everything else should be included in {{Infobox sports team}}. Those 2 params can easily be added. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 23:58, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

Can the proposer(s) comment on justification / benefit of merging, please? Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 00:44, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@Dmoore5556: Wikipedia:Infobox consolidation should provide all the info you need, but basically the template is a duplicate with only 2 unique parameters. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:51, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
Thanks. Might consider giving editors a way to specify the display name of a championship (e.g. Steinfeld Cup, Stanley Cup, etc.) rather than adding field(s) unique to one sport or league. Dmoore5556 (talk) 01:07, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
@Dmoore5556: absolutely! One common way this is dealt with is to add some custom fields to the template. So for example you would have {{{championship_label_1}}}, {{{championship_data_1}}}. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:17, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
That would be quite useful and something I'm very supportive of. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 03:38, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
As the creator of this template, I'm in favour of merging. :-) --Doradus (talk) 01:30, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
@Doradus: thanks! Hope you don't take this nomination as me questioning you as the creator... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:41, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
@Zackmann08: - Not in the least. As I recall, I made the template to reduce redundancy between the pages that existed at the time. This is another step in reducing redundancy. Progress! --Doradus (talk) 13:30, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:SITribe[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Template is definitely not used that can be seen at {{Stribe}} and its document files. ApprenticeFan work 11:03, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

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  • Delete {{Stribe}} section "List of tribes with colors" shows that that template can be used instead. Ancillary files should go too, as noted above. {{Survivor Philippines colorbox}} too? All seems overly complex for the rather simple purpose. Nigej (talk) 16:14, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:KOGL-type2[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Inappropriate license tag which appears to permit "free" files with an NC restriction FASTILY 20:46, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 January 11#Template:KOGL-type4 and Template:KOGL-type1 can go too. Nigej (talk) 09:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and repurpose. If a license would count as free except for a single restriction, it still helps to have a template for it, since "the owner has published it under a license that permits this specific use" is solid evidence that the file passes NFCC #2 and #4. I'm not sure how to repurpose it; we could just redirect it to {{Non-free with NC}}, or we could transclude that template onto this one, but best to run it by template experts to ensure that this isn't transcluding any categories that would lead bots to interpret it as a free-license template. Nyttend backup (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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Template:KOGL-type3[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:50, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Inappropriate license tag which appears to permit "free" files with an ND restriction FASTILY 20:47, 19 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2019 January 11#Template:KOGL-type4. Nigej (talk) 09:10, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and repurpose. If a license would count as free except for a single restriction, it still helps to have a template for it, since "the owner has published it under a license that permits this specific use" is solid evidence that the file passes NFCC #2 and #4. I'm not sure how to repurpose it; we could just redirect it to {{Non-free with ND}}, or we could transclude that template onto this one, but best to run it by template experts to ensure that this isn't transcluding any categories that would lead bots to interpret it as a free-license template. Nyttend backup (talk) 15:48, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
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Philadelphia Transportation Company templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:53, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Set of PTC and SEPTA templates for displaying the former route of the Philadelphia Transportation Company. Split out to Module:Adjacent stations/Philadelphia Transportation Company. All transclusions replaced and the PTC-specific code has been removed from the SEPTA S-line templates. Mackensen (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 13:56, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Unused SEPTA Regional Rail S-line aliases[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:54, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

These are mostly redirects and they're all unused. The correct S-line names are Bethlehem, Fox Chase, Ivy Ridge, Pottstown, and Trenton. With the except of one of the Allentown templates they were all long-disused. Mackensen (talk) 15:43, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:02, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
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  • Delete per nom. --Gonnym (talk) 22:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 13:56, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox character/Wikidata[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox character. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:51, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

This template gets all of its information from Wikidata, which so far has not been the way en.wiki wants to receive information. It is only used on 10 pages and can replaced with {{Infobox character}}. Gonnym (talk) 10:49, 15 January 2019 (UTC)

  • I think I take issue with which so far has not been the way en.wiki wants to receive information given that there are multiple infoboxes (almost-)completely enabled with Wikidata. The reason a template like this exists is as a test bed for Wikidata-enabled infoboxes. Is it your suggestion that this should actually be merged into the template proper? --Izno (talk) 01:37, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
    • My comment is based on my observation of various discussion over the past years against the Wikidata. I do not think this should be merged. If keeping information on character articles is hard now with the lack of references a lot of editors seem to not care to add, then having that same information come from an outside source that doesn't show up on a watchlist, would be even worse. --Gonnym (talk) 08:31, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
      • A) It does show up on a watchlist (if you choose to enable it); b) existing issues with characters articles shouldn't affect how we decide whether to use Wikidata; and c) Wikidata is not forbidden for use (nor is it preferred for use). As it happens, we've been successful with at least one template reducing the number of changes directly in an article (that's {{video game reviews}}). I don't want to open cans of worms much more, but which so far has not been the way en.wiki wants to receive information is an incorrect statement. --Izno (talk) 22:53, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
        • Stricken out the disputed line so we can focus on infobox itself and not any side-issue.
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  • Comment: The template is an outdated wrapper of Infobox character passing parameters that have no coropospoding parameter in the main template and in addition it has some trivia parameters such as |height= and |complexion=. It also no documentation at all. This an issue with wrapper templates that tend to get ababonded and not taken care of. The very few parameters which are not unique and not trivia can be merged into the main template, or use one of the custom fields. --Gonnym (talk) 11:52, 27 January 2019 (UTC)
  • @Capankajsmilyo: Who made this template, but has not edited it since May 2017, for comment. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Jane Austen character[edit]

Propose merging Template:Infobox Jane Austen character with Template:Infobox character.

Per WP:INFOCOL. 30 uses. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:59, 24 January 2019 (UTC)

  • Disagree for moment. There are lots of unique fields in Jane Austen character that aren't in character infobox. How will all those fields get merged?--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:31, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
    • Some of these (|Height=, |Income=, |LondonResidence= for example) are fancruft and should be discarded. The rest would be included, as in any merge. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
      • @Tom (LT): I tend to agree with what Pigsonthewing said. Can you be most specific than lots of unique fields? Which specific fields are you worried about. Certainly don't want to delete important data, but I think most of the fields in question are WP:FANCRUFT. Let me know your thoughts. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:21, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
      • @Tom (LT): bump... Can you expand your comments? --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
        • Sure. You have stated these could be merged, without providing any details about lots of fields which are different. Andy has said in a general way that lots of the varied ones can be discarded and you have said that you agree. I feel the main point of this particular merge is ideological, however I don't think in this particular circumstance it's practical given the wide discrepancy. I think it will make the reading experience worse and because of the discrepancies, also make the editing experience more confusing. I support other mergers of a similar ilk but for stated reasons oppose this one at this time.--Tom (LT) (talk) 00:23, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 14:43, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Replace and not merge - Most of the unique parameters here are trivia and uselss for an infobox such as |Height=, |Income=, |Education=, |LondonResidence=, |FavoritePasttimes=, |Age=. These should be removed and not added. Similar, |Birth= and |Death= were not included in the current infobox and it seems this was done on purpose and should not be added. --Gonnym (talk) 14:53, 25 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Disagree Most of the fields in the character infobox are irrelevant to Jane Austen characters and will only make life more difficult for prospective Austen editors. I agree that some of the Jane Austen fields are unnecessary. e.g. age, birth, death are unhelpful; height irrelevant; romantic interest and favourite pastimes are probably fancruft. Income is relevant, I think, as this is a major feature in Austen's writings and is indicative of social status, which is also very important. Family tree type info could benefit from addition of other significant relatives. Petrosbizar (talk) 12:36, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
    • @Petrosbizar: is there a reason that this information cannot simply be displayed using |data1=, |data2=, etc? That is the entire point of having those parameters on {{Infobox character}}. Every series/show has a few custom parameters so those were added so that EVERY character type doesn't need its own infobox. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 00:51, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
    • @Zackmann08: 1. Thanks for your comment. That sounds perfectly reasonable. 2. What you say seems to reinforce the idea of merging with, say, similar groups of novels but not with the overly large one at present suggested. 3. In practice, I'm finding the Austen Character box to be inconsistent in management (that may be my lack of experience with infoboxes). For example, in the Fanny Price infobox there is a line available for Guardian. It is filled in with the name of Sir Thomas Bertram, but this does not appear in the box. Advice?Petrosbizar (talk) 15:14, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
      • @Petrosbizar: at the end of the day, the more up-merging we can do, the better. There are times where overgeneralizing can get back, I don't think this is one of those cases. {{Infobox character}} is more than capable of displaying all the needed information. As for why guardian doesn't display, {{Infobox Jane Austen character}} doesn't have a parameter |Guardian=. That is why it doesn't work. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:58, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
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  • Merge per nom. All of the extra parameters, including |Income=, seem quite crufty to me. But any detail deemed appropriate can certainly be accommodated with the |dataX= parameters.— TAnthonyTalk 16:48, 8 February 2019 (UTC)

Template:Songkick[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 16. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:33, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Blogger[edit]

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Template:Editnotices/Page/Wikipedia talk:Lua[edit]

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The result of the discussion was relisted on 2019 February 15. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:52, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Social Christianity[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 20:42, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Seems a catch-all for names. - Inowen (nlfte) 07:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)

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  • Comment Just 17 transclusions, despite the much larger number of entries in the template (60 or 70) and some of those 17 are not entries in the template. Just 2 of the "major figures" use the infobox. Social Christianity redirects to Christian socialism. See also Category:Christian socialism. All rather gives the impression of being a fairly random list. Currently I'm inclined to think that it could be deleted. Nigej (talk) 17:35, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete or move back to user space per Nigej's comment. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep: I moved the template to Christian Socialism to match the article, and renamed it and updated the categories. Nigej is right that many important figures in the article are not in the template and vice-versa, so can we remove some of the extraneous entries and keep the template? --Chumash11 (talk) 18:35, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Ahnentafel-chart[edit]

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Template:Ahnentafel-tree[edit]

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The result of the discussion was no consensus. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Ahnentafel-tree with Template:Ahnentafel.
Standardisation. Shouldn't Template:Ahnentafel suffice? PPEMES (talk) 16:36, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

This was discussed in April 2018 see:Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2018_April 24#Template:Ahnentafel-tree and the consensus was keep. While consensus can change the reasons for keeping it have not. See April 2018 for a more degailed discussion.

The {{Ahnentafel}} displays information using a method popular in America. It is not so popular in Europe. {{Ahnentafel-tree}} is a better format to use for large trees (say more than 5 generations) particullarly on small screens (like phones) and on printers. It also allows far more detail to be displayed for each entry as the indention is far less leaving the rest of the line free for notes etc. {{Ahnentafel-tree}} is built using {{Tree list}} and all it does it make it easier to build an Ahentafel tree using {{Tree list}} as it simplifies the process.-- PBS (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

Agree about the sidetrack. Would you mind trying to improve that situation per WP:BOLD? It seems like it could use some bold attention. PPEMES (talk) 19:21, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
I have been BOLD and rewritten the section. -- PBS (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
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  • Oppose per PBS. They serve two different purposes. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:09, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per above comments. No strong need for a merge, reflects diversity of use here with no convincing reason to standardise, and allows articles to better reflect regional variation.--Tom (LT) (talk) 03:41, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox Highlander character[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox character. — JJMC89(T·C) 01:55, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Infobox Highlander character with Template:Infobox character.
Can easily be merged Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 19:09, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Merge with exceptions - oppose |appears= and |episodes= as those can become giant lists and should be handled in the article itself. Not sure about |born=, |died=, and |immortal= as those parameters were always absent from the character infobox for a reason. --Gonnym (talk) 20:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge - Bogolub (talk) 21:05, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom and Gonnym.--Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom and Gonnym. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 22:57, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox military unit 720th MP BN[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

unused and redundant. Just use Template:Infobox military unit Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Infobox medical condition[edit]

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The result of the discussion was replace with Template:Infobox medical condition (new) / Template:Medical resources depending on context (as was already in progress). — JJMC89(T·C) 01:59, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

This is mostly procedural. According to the documentation, this template is deprecated in favor of {{Infobox medical condition (new)}}. I want to actually make this happen and remove all transclusions of the old deprecated template. I will then merge the templates and remove the "(new)" part of the template name. Just want to have a formal TfD for documentation purposes. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Merge - if it is deprecated and replaced by another template it should be fully replaced. --Gonnym (talk) 19:12, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Comment Can I just check what'll happen to the data within populated parameters, such as classification codes, which are not part of the new template because they have been moved to the {{medical classification}} {{medical resources}} template? (I'm assuming they'll still be there in the wikicode, and just won't show in the infobox, but want to make sure.) Little pob (talk) 19:21, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Whatever needs to be merged, will be merged. If you have any specific issue that you think needs to be replaced/moved/merged this is the time and place to say so. --Gonnym (talk) 20:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Some parameter data, such as classification codes, need moving to {{medical resources}} from the depreciated infobox. Having a bot do this was ruled out for reasons around complexity during the development of the new infobox and the med resources template. As such some members of WP:MED have been performing the moves by hand. Consensus was the parameters were too technical to be in the infobox, but were encyclopaedic. I'd argue that if merging the infoboxes would remove that data entirely, it would be a policy violation. Little pob (talk) 11:19, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose merge We are slowly replacing this. The template was split into two Template:Infobox medical condition (new) and Template:Medical resources. Happy to have help with this updating and splitting. Only 2668 left to go. I have done more than 1,000 articles since starting. User:Ozzie10aaaa has done probably a couple of thousand. We just need a bit more time. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:31, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
    • @Doc James: just to make sure I understood correctly, {{Infobox medical condition}} should be completely replaced by {{Infobox medical condition (new)}} and {{Medical resources}} without any need for a merge? --Gonnym (talk) 16:24, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
      • User:Gonnym yes that is correct. It is being completely replaced. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:29, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
        • @Doc James: that you just stated that you support a merge... The entire point of this discussion is to make the merge happen. The fact that you are doing it slowly indicates that you ARE merging the two. Supporting this delete doesn't mean the template just gets deleted without any work... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:59, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
          • I just did about 500 instances of this template yesterday. The old template is being split into two and replaced. Not it is not being merged and I oppose merging. Just under 1,000 instances of this template are left in main space. If people want to speed up the process of this template no longer being used than help doing the split of the template. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:02, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per Doc James. Some instances should be changed to Template:Medical resources, as the deprecation note already indicates. So no botwise change, it takes editor's judgement. -DePiep (talk) 08:42, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
    • @DePiep: no part of this has anything to do with a botwise change... This is not a WP:BRFA.... --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:59, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
      • Your nom OP says, stress added: "This is mostly procedural ... I want to ... remove all transclusions of the old deprecated template. I will then merge the templates and remove the "(new)" ... Just want to have a formal TfD for documentation purposes." In other words: you propose to make these edits without any editor's content judgement. That is "botwise" to me. More general: did you get from this thread, especialy from User:Doc James's posts, that this is not a 1-to-1 automatable change? -DePiep (talk) 20:45, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Oppose per above, but going to throw my hat into the ring to help migrate by hand - starting this weekend. Little pob (talk) 11:21, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
    Thanks User:Little pob :-) Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 16:05, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • oppose per Doc James rationale--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 11:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Replace with Template:Infobox medical condition (new) and Template:Medical resources per Doc James. Better to have this officially listed in the holding cell instead of being forgotten. --Gonnym (talk) 16:38, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
    • User:Gonnym we have a tool half built that does this replacement. It is not good enough to do it without oversight so currently it is a userscript. First item listed here User:Doc_James/common.js. We could look at improving it and getting it run as a bot if people really wish. The larger issue is that some details should be filled into the new infobox as it is added. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:23, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Infobox handball club[edit]

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The result of the discussion was merge to Template:Infobox handball club. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:00, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Propose merging Template:Infobox handball club with Template:Infobox handball club 2.
Don't see any reason for there to be 2 templates here. Suggest merging all parameters to one template that works for both. Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Merge - there is no reason for two templates competing for the same article. Hopefully someone from Wikipedia:WikiProject Handball can join in and say what parameters are important, as {{Infobox handball club 2}} is only used on 7 articles. --Gonnym (talk) 18:10, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge Surely {{Infobox handball club 2}} can go, only used 7 times, some Australian teams, some American. Nigej (talk) 20:17, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per above comments. There's only room for one! --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge per nom. Also @Malo95: (who created the second template) in the hope of an explanation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:01, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Merge I forgot why I created a second Infobox. But I think we can merge the two.--Malo95 (talk) 14:41, 12 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Editnotices/Namespace/Wikipedia talk[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 17:53, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Delete an Editnotice that is blank (as opposed to nonexistent) risks being a resource drain every time a page in the corresponding namespace is edited (which is a LOT). UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Note I suggest the editnotice template itself does not get a TfD tag because then the TfD tag will disruptively appear every time a page in the namespace is edited. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:07, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Have you asked MSGJ (talk · contribs) why they blanked it? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:01, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • If someone can convince me that an empty editnotice template is a resource drain, then I'm fine with deleting it. Otherwise it is better for non-admins to be able to see the history. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:17, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Taiwan Television drama templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

unclear what the use if of this template The Banner talk 12:48, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

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Template:Taiwan Television High-quality Saturday Drama[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Kin'yō Naito Dorama[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:05, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:TBS Getsuhachi[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:40, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:47, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Mokuyō Dorama 9[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:TBS Mokukyū[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:06, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:SET Metro Chinese TV drama on Fridays at 22:00[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:07, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:SET Metro Chinese TV drama on Weekdays at 20:00[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:07, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Nippon TV Do'yō Dorama[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

promo, WP:NOTTVGUIDE The Banner talk 12:45, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Complete agreement. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:07, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Seoul Broadcasting System drama templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 18:41, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

unclear what the use if of this template The Banner talk 12:44, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - this template actually is useful as it provides navigation between a set of navboxes, however it is also redundant as each of the 4 nav template linked to it, also have the same links in their own template. --Gonnym (talk) 13:14, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
    • Has no links now, other then the current template (the last template is being deleted). This discussion can be closed. --Gonnym (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --woodensuperman 13:42, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Nigej (talk) 10:08, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
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Now-unused user warning templates[edit]

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The result of the discussion was speedy keep. Nomination is far to large and doesn't provide enough information for a clear discussion. (non-admin closure) Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 21:24, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Long list

No longer needed. All of these either refer to unused processes or have been superseded by subsequent templates. [Username Needed] 11:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Superseded by what? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 12:39, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Who has decided these are "superseded"? WCMemail 12:51, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and snow close. This is far too many templates bundled in a single nomination for proper consideration. I need only witness that I actively use more than one of these to undermine the grounds of the nomination; these are not all "superseded" nor "unused" and since many are substituted, the claim is not easily checked – nor is it feasible to try to check given the agglomeration. (By the way, the nominator has failed to use noinclude tags despite the mass nature of the nomination; I'll go fix that).--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep and snow close. Per Fuhghettaboutit. WCMemail 13:32, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep. I like {{chinup}}. What needs to be done with that (and maybe the others) is not to delete them but to somehow advertise and recommend it Herostratus (talk) 14:41, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep per all of the above. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 14:43, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:How Long Can Chicken Sit Out Unrefrigerated?[edit]

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The result of the discussion was Speedily deleted. No reason to keep this around for 7 days, I think. Writ Keeper  21:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

Unencyclopedic essay, a misuse of template space. Not used anywhere after I removed it from an article about a defunct cooking school. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 05:55, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Delete - could have probably be speedy under G6 "Deleting pages unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace". --Gonnym (talk) 08:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete - not a template. Nigej (talk) 20:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Speedy delete as a G6 - pages unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:03, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
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Template:Newbie-biting[edit]

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The result of the discussion was delete. — JJMC89(T·C) 02:07, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

No longer needed. All of these either refer to unused processes or have been superseded by subsequent templates. [Username Needed] 11:04, 7 February 2019 (UTC)

  • Keep Humorous and light hearted way to remind editors not to bite newbies, I'm not sure why but there seems to be a tendency to remove anything light hearted or funny from the wiki. WCMemail 12:50, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Nominated twice previously, kept on both occasions. WCMemail 12:56, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Result was "no consensus", different thing. --Gonnym (talk) 21:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete I'm really struggling to see any point in it. Nigej (talk) 20:19, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Why is there no nomination here? It goes straight to the "Keep" !vote. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:05, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    Oh, I've found it. Wee Curry Monster, you don't seem to have followed the directions at WP:TFDHOW (such as: adding your nomination at the top; adding a reason why you think the template should be deleted or merged; using an edit summary such as "Adding [[Template:template name]]"). I also don't see why you have nominated a template for deletion using a "keep" !vote. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 21:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
    I haven't nominated it, it was part of a mass nomination done out of process above. WCMemail 11:21, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
    In which case you should have made your !vote in that section, and not started a new one. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:59, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete as redundant to Template:Uw-bite. {{3x|p}}ery (talk) 21:42, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per Pppery. --Gonnym (talk) 22:30, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete Template:Uw-bite should be used. --Zackmann (Talk to me/What I been doing) 22:57, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. With appropriate personal characteristics and some willpower and thought, such humourous comments can also be delivered off the cuff. There is no need to preserve this one as a template. --Tom (LT) (talk) 05:23, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
  • Keep - Keep per Wee Curry Monster. --Jax 0677 (talk) 12:49, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
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