User talk:Z1720

Halloween award

		The Halloween prep set award
		For your work related to the Halloween prep set at DYK. Your contributions are appreciated! Lightburst (talk) 17:47, 20 October 2023 (UTC)

November Articles for creation backlog drive

Hello Z1720:

WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.

You may find Category:AfC pending submissions by age or other categories and sorting helpful.

Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.

There is a backlog of over 3100 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)

WikiCup 2023 November newsletter

The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-

• BeanieFan11 with 2582 points
• Thebiguglyalien with 1615 points
• Epicgenius with 1518 points
• MyCatIsAChonk with 1012 points
• BennyOnTheLoose with 974 points
• AirshipJungleman29 with 673 points
• Sammi Brie with 520 points
• Unlimitedlead with 5 points

Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
• Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
• BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
• LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
• MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
• Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
• Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.

The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)

November thanks

November songs

my story today

Thank you for checking OTD. I proudly remember having sung in an oratorio premiere seven years ago OTD. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:03, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

I saw you busy in the Selected anniversaries where I feel like a newcomer. We are approaching a tercentenary, of the birth of Carl Friedrich Abel, about whom several specific things could be said: he was the last viol virtuoso, a prolific composer (mostly for the instrument and other chamber music), he installed together with Bach's youngest son, his friend, the first subscription concerts in London, and one of his symphonies was attributed to W. A. Mozart.[1] Good to know. The least we could do is mentioning him under births, but I dream of presenting his beautiful portrait by a famous painter - look at that dog! Would you have a good idea for a blurb? A festival of celebration with a new award in his name happened already in his home town.[2][3] --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:08, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Unfortunately, OTD doesn't usually do blurbs for people who are born unless the birth was significant itself, and currently the pictures are only for blurbs. Is there a significant date in this person's biography that we can use instead? Some examples might be the specific date that it was discovered that his symphony was misattributed to Mozart, or the premiere of a significant work. OTD blurbs are currently biased towards warfare, political events, space, vehicle accidents and natural disasters, so any suggestions of music/art that we can include is appreciated. Z1720 (talk) 14:45, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

It's a bit strange, because music celebrates his day of birth, not day of discovery a symphony wasn't by Mozart. I remember 2020 when it was all Beethoven, just reduced by the pandemic. But understand for this one, - will have to turn to DYK, I guess. - I'll think about adding more music, promised. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:54, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

ps: funny that Bach worked in Köthen in 1720, and Abel's dad was cellist in his orchestra ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:58, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Next day of pics - today my topic is a soprano. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:02, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Another day of pics, and did you see the thread about Britten's birthday on DYK? The nom is now approved. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you so much for the extra effort! - My story today is a DYK hook from 13 years ago OTD: about the great music at one of my churches. Mozart's Requiem to come on Sunday, coupled with Arvo Pärt's Da pacem Domine, - I guess you might come if it was a bit closer. Perhaps watch the video of our last production, our first on yt, ever. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:21, 21 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for standing to become arbitrator! My story today is Canticle I: My beloved is mine and I am his, - the composer, born OTD 110 years ago, didn't want it shorter (but the publisher), - more here. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:54, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for a reply to my cand question. I may discuss it after tomorrow's concert when we will sing the Mozart and listen to Pärt's urgent call for peace played by the strings, - I'm not in the mood before ;) - I mentioned Pärt for a reason, could have been Beethoven as well, in other words: I believe it's time for a fresh look, as we were told 10 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

I think it's legitimate that editors look at the role of infoboxes in articles again. ArbCom stepping into this topic area right now would probably drag out the process with little accomplished, and I think limiting responses in RfCs would be a better solution. I looked at the Mozart RfC before answering your question, I was not thrilled with some of the long responses with back and forth in the RfC, but I think overall the process worked and RfCs are the process to use in this topic area at this time. Z1720 (talk) 00:19, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

I came to tell you that I added another Bach cantata to the anniversaries, - for some reason that I don't remember it was in the year (1723, 300 years ago) but not the day (26 Dec). - I think the Mozart RfC proves that editors are able to talk about infoboxes in a civil manner, which to do consistently would be completely enough to settle the disputes. Treating each other as warriors, however, is as certain not to settle it, and that happens when editors are compared to armies, and when a new editor who possibly knows nothing about any conflict (and abbreviations such as PR/FAC) and adds an infobox in good faith is reverted quoting no argument than its FA status. - I also think that CT infoboxes is way too general, because - as everybody reading Wikipedia can easily tell - infoboxes are almost everywhere, - they are contentious only in a small corner of subjects, in articles by a small group of editors. How that could successfully be styled as wars I have never understood. I met the dispute in 2012, for Samuel Barber (where I opposed for redundancy, but understood within a day that the redundancy serves readers with different needs). Brian Boulton added a compromise to Chopin as a RfC result in 2015. I thought that would settle it, dreamer that I am ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:19, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Today: in memoriam Jerome Kohl who said (In Freundschaft): "and I hope that they have met again in the beyond and are making joyous music together" --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:32, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from C00lsl0th54 (23:04, 6 November 2023)

hello! I was wondering how to create a wiki --C00lsl0th54 (talk) 23:04, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

@C00lsl0th54: What do you mean by "create a wiki". Do you mean create an article, or to create a whole new database of articles on a topic that is separate from Wikipedia? Z1720 (talk) 23:27, 6 November 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – November 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2023).

Administrator changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

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• The WMF is working on making it possible for administrators to edit MediaWiki configuration directly. This is similar to previous work on Special:EditGrowthConfig. A technical RfC is running until November 08, where you can provide feedback.
• There is a proposed plan for re-enabling the Graph Extension. Feedback on this proposal is requested.

Arbitration

• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate themselves from 12 November 2023 until 21 November 2023 to stand in the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections.
• Xaosflux, RoySmith and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2023 Arbitration Committee Elections. BusterD is the reserve commissioner.
• Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
• Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
• Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
• Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
• An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.

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• The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!

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Question from MasterDale (21:00, 8 November 2023)

I want to write about the Idols and small popular people in my country that have create a name by themselve by not well know need some pointers how to do that --MasterDale (talk) 21:00, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

@MasterDale: Thanks for your question. Take a look at Help:Your first article, which has tips and tools on how to create an article. Ensure that any article you create is for a person that is notable, which on Wikipedia means that the topic has had three, independent, reliable secondary sources write about the topic in a major way (and not a passing mention). Lastly, ensure that if you are being paid to write about a person, or if you know that person in real life, that you read WP:COIE to ensure that you comply with Wikipdia's conflict of interest policies. Let me know if you have any specific questions! Z1720 (talk) 21:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks at English Civil War logistics and Peacemaker67 at Austro-Hungarian torpedo boats Op-ed: Hawkeye7 on how WP:SIZE matters

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Operation Commando Hunt

I think you have not edited since I left and deleted two messages about a reappraisal of an article, then left another, on the coordinators' talk page. I wanted to be sure so I am posting this message. I note in the message on the coordinators page that there are two pages on A assessments which deal at least in part with reappraisals or reassessments. I am a new coordinator and thought I ought to be able to understand and proceed with the reassessment. I now think I am not likely to gain certainty on how to proceed without some further advice or instruction. That is the gist of my message there, which I invite you to read.
I also note that the article is no longer A class, probably not GA and will need some citations at almost any level. So I agree the article needs reassessment. If no other coordinator responds in the near future, I will ping them in case they read earlier messages and think I am taking care of this. I should mention that I do not have the sources to use to fill in the citations or any other improvements which might appear necessary so I can't work to improve this article myself. Sorry for the confusion. Donner60 (talk) 07:05, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

@Donner60: Thanks for this message. I left the message on the coordinator's page because the instructions on WP:MHR says "If an editor feels that any current A-class article no longer meet the standards and may thus need to be considered for demotion (i.e. it needs a re-appraisal) please leave a message for the project coordinators." Is there a process to initiate an A-class review, similar to WP:GAR or WP:FAR? Happy to help get things clarified. I also haven't edited over the weekend because I was at WikiConference North America. Z1720 (talk) 13:59, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

I hope you enjoyed the conference. I now see that the matter has been progressed on the coordinator talk page. I left a thanks and message that I would comment after someone else initiated the review. I wrote that one of my three thoughts or threads was mostly (if not entirely) correct. Now I know which one. Thanks for your patience. When Ian Rose comments that he has never dealt with a reappraisal, we know they have been rather rate. It think this is worth pursuing and will be educational for all participants and anyone who takes notice. Donner60 (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

It was great to meet you in person

View from the waterfront in West Vancouver looking east at sunset

It was great to meet you at the conference and I hope we cross paths in person again. Just wanted to leave this pic I took from the waterfront in West Vancouver, to show it is definitely worth a visit! (t · c) buidhe 02:14, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

@Buidhe: It was great meeting you too! I am glad that we were able to chat in person. Maybe we will hang out in Vancouver sometime :) Z1720 (talk) 02:52, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

"I have signed the Access to Nonpublic Personal Data Policy and will post a diff link to the confirmation when it is posted by the WMF."

Here you go. :) Joe Sutherland (WMF) (talk) 19:42, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

Arctodus feedback

Hi! First of all, I just wanted to thank you for the comprehensive feedback you gave to the Arctodus article you gave last year. I finished completing your improvements, however while that was happening, I got some feedback about the length of sections potentially being too long. I've done some additional streamlining, reorganisation and rewrites. I know that you're quite busy, but if you'd be able to do take a look again to see how it's going, I'd greatly appreciate any kind of feedback. SuperTah (talk) 03:30, 22 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding your ACE answer

Hi Z1720. I'm looking forward to hopefully working with you next year in the event that you're elected. I read your answer to a question in which you recommend referring AE threads without conclusion to ArbCom, and I would just note that in December, ArbCom amended its procedures to provide that: A consensus of administrators at the arbitration enforcement noticeboard may refer an arbitration enforcement request to the Arbitration Committee for final decision through a request for amendment. Best, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 18:50, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@L235: Thanks for your message. The above refers to a consensus of admin requesting opening a case. In addition to this, I would like a definitive remedy from ArbCome stating that if an aspect of an AE case closes without consensus, the closing admin must refer the issue to ArbCom. Arbitrators are so busy that it is difficult to be aware of situations happening around Wikipedia; my suggestion would make it mandatory to bring an unresolved issue from AE to ArbCom's attention. Z1720 (talk) 20:39, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

How would you feel about an intermediate step of encouraging administrators to do so without requiring them to do so? KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 22:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)

@L235: That leaves it up to admin discretion again, with some issues getting lost when an admin doesn't want to go through the hassle of opening a case (which is totally understandable, considering the required time that a case takes.) If this was left to admin discretion, then I would expect arbitrators to be actively monitoring AE closes and opening cases when they see a contentious or no consensus close (similar to what happened with the HPJ case, but that was triggered by an academic journal). This would add more work on arbitrators, which I am trying to avoid.

I would rather it be mandatory that admin report contentious closes to arbitrators so that, at the very least, arbitrators are made aware of significant disagreement amongst the admin core. We already have wheel warring triggering ArbCom cases, and we have a common courtesy of the blocking admin being contacted before an unblock can take place. I think adding this requirement, or at least strongly suggesting it, would make the AE process better (and less likely to become siloed from ArbCom). I don't think admin would object too much because AE is a creation of ArbCom and thus they have more authority to generate rules for this noticeboard. Z1720 (talk) 00:37, 26 November 2023 (UTC)

Books & Bytes – Issue 59

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Question from Daylightshadow2008 (18:22, 27 November 2023)

Hello there How can I change my name on Wikipedia --Daylightshadow2008 (talk) 18:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

@Daylightshadow2008: Click on the following link for information on how to change your name: Wikipedia:Changing username. Z1720 (talk) 21:25, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Take your time ... I see you have one or two other things going on :) When you get a chance, feel free to edit or comment on the blurb at this link. - Dank (push to talk) 04:08, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Dank: I LOVE the selected picture. Science articles are far outside my specialty, so any suggestions are going to focus on prose. I'll take a look at it in the coming days. Z1720 (talk) 04:14, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

@Dank: I read the blurb and don't have any concerns. Z1720 (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Editor experience invitation

Hi Z1720. :) I'm looking for people to interview here. Feel free to pass if you're not interested. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:19, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

Question from Squiggeel (05:23, 30 November 2023)

hello! if it isn't too much trouble i need a bit of help adding userboxes to my user page, as they keep displaying as links. thank you kindly! --Squiggeel (talk) 05:23, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

i think i've figured it out, actually! thank you anyways! Squiggeel (talk) 08:20, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

@Squiggeel: I'm glad that you figured it out. Let me know if you have other questions! Z1720 (talk) 15:03, 30 November 2023 (UTC)

December music

December songs

story · music

Today's story is about Maria Callas, on her centenary. - Aaron Copland died OTD, and Jerome Kohl (mentioned in November) said something wise on Copland's talk, - yes, regarding a soft(er) stance towards infoboxes. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:38, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you today for Abishabis, introduced: "This article is about a Cree religious leader from the 19th century. Methodist missionaries and Hudson's Bay Company employees gave various accounts of his life and teachings, which have been analysed by modern-day researchers."! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:04, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Back to arbitration: did you check out the history of the infobox of Callas? Compare Jessye Norman, Kathleen Ferrier and Jenny Lind. Did you check out the history of Copland? Compare Max Reger, Max Beckschäfer, Colin Mawby (from today's story), and Benjamin Britten (who died OTD). What's the difference? If what you see changes your answer to my question, feel free to change, and ping me. I would like to see a way to avoid in the future hundreds of editors commenting on Mozart RfCs, just to kind of restore the infobox he had in 2006. Happy new era ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:29, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: ArbCom does not arbitrate on content issues, and whether an infobox should be in an article is a content issue. The use or not use of infoboxes will probably need to be discussed on an article-by-article basis since any rules on infobox use will be subjective. However, editors should limit their responses, avoid walls of text, and limit back-and-forth, extended replies. If an editor is not adhering to talk page etiquette or the additional rules established in this topic area from previous ARBCOM cases, even after they have been repeatedly asked to by others, an AE request should be filed as infoxoes have a contensious topic designation. If AE requests are not able to solve the concerns, a new ARBCOM case can be opened. Z1720 (talk) 15:40, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for the education, but nothing new. I will not take a colleague to AE, after what I've seen, and I put up "grant each other the presumption that we are acting in good faith" as a note to self. - I read A pocket guide to Arbitration only after my encounter. - More after the election. I hope you enjoy my mostly musical stories and articles, - that's what I am here for. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:36, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I managed to get the pics to snow (on 28 Nov), and heard a lovely concert, after listening to a miracle of meditative dreaming on 6 December (or just click on music). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:31, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

... and today, to Paris (29 Nov) with a visit to the Palais Garnier, - to match the story of Medea Amiranashvili, - don't miss listening to her expressive voice. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:28, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

My story today is about Michael Robinson, - it's an honour to have known him. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:40, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

I had hoped to see the 300th anniversary of Bach's first Christmas cantata among the anniversaries for 26 December. Any chance? Perhaps instead of another battle, on a day that is still Christmas in some countries? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:07, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: We might be able to swap it in. What's the article, and what you like the blurb to be? Z1720 (talk) 23:59, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

Not sure what to say differently, - there's only one item with a blurb for 1723 in 26 December. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: OTD sets are prepared on their selected anniversaries page. For example, December 26's page is at Wikipedia:Selected anniversaries/December 26. If a blurb is not on that page, it is unlikely to be considered for OTD. If there are any other suggestions for OTD blurbs, please put them on their Selected anniversary page.

For the article, I put it into the article and put Bach into the image slot (I don't think it's ever been used for OTD, and it's a pretty good image). Let me know if there are any other concerns. Z1720 (talk) 14:23, 14 December 2023 (UTC)

Thank you! - Pics up to 3 December (with my shadow in one of them), and a story about Beethoven in memory of his birth. When the arb who wrote the infoboxes case installed the community consensus - in 2015! - I hoped these infobox wars were over, really. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

Today, I have a special story to tell, of the works of a musician born 300 years ago. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

I wonder what readers will say that we will run this news late ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:17, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Congratulations to your election! - I uploaded more pics, with Christmas trees and related artworks, and I have two women on the Main page (for a sad reason). Our Christmas singing (of my user's infobox music "singen, singen") was pictured! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:58, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

I boldly added Wie schön leuchtet der Morgenstern, BWV 1 to the Selection for 25 March. I noticed that Annunciation is marked ineligible, but it would be Feast of the Annunciation, no? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:41, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

@Gerda Arendt: Feast of the Annunciation can be used instead, though I would like the paragraphs at the end of the "History" section to be referenced before it appeared on the main page. Z1720 (talk) 17:53, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. I saw only today that there are two articles. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:35, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Question from Madteals (14:21, 4 December 2023)

How can I make my own article that doesn't say "Sandbox" and I can make it it's own name --Madteals (talk) 14:21, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

Hi @Madteals: since you are a new editor, you will need to create a draft of the article and get it approved for it to appear on Wikipedia. Click on the following link: WP:AFC, then click on "Click here to start a new article". Follow the instructions and ensure that your article has at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources. When the article is ready, submit it to AFC and another editor will look at it to approve or give feedback. Z1720 (talk) 16:18, 4 December 2023 (UTC)

OTD helper

Hi! It was great to meet you at WCNA :) Based on what we had talked about, I worked on a tool to hopefully help with checking articles: https://otd-helper.toolforge.org

For making it easier to update the OTD pages themselves, I wanted to change the comment format for inelgible articles to be a list rather than table. Then we'd have a user script of some sort that makes it easier to re-arrange articles (maybe literal drag and drop?) and leave notes for ineligible ones. Curious if 1) this tool will help you out and if you'd like to see any other changes/features 2) if you have any thoughts regarding a user script for the second part! Legoktm (talk) 23:39, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for making this @Legoktm: I've used it to check the upcoming hooks and it gives a lot of useful information. Some other information I would like to see in the toolforge are:

• Article rating (FA, GA, start, etc.)
• What year the hook is for (to help with selection of articles)
• Ineligible: what is the reason given for its ineligibility?
• What country the article is from (this can possibly be done by capturing which Wikiprojects the article is attached to)
• How many citation needed tags are in the article.

The drag and drop sounds good, or perhaps a selection box, so a user can checkmark the hooks, then confirm at the bottom of the page that these are the five hooks they want for the set, or if the hook should be moved to ineligible. It would also be great if, at the beginning of building the hooks, the tool can automatically move the previous hooks to the eligible category. My brain is swimming with ideas, so I'm excited to improve this process with you and make OTD easier! Z1720 (talk) 14:43, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

Awesome, I've added in article rating, list of WikiProjects, and how many citation needed tags (and other inline ones) since those were straightforward, and I'm figuring out how to do the rest :) Legoktm (talk) 05:12, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Request to include Guy Lombardo ino the DYK Queue for use on New Years Day

@DYK admins: Cia Z1720: If possible, kindly add the biography about Guy Lombardo to the DYK queue for review, ASAP using the hook which is related to NEW YEARS DAY as described below. Many thanks in advance for your help & HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL

Did you know nomination

Guy Lombardo

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Photo of band leader Guy Lombardo

• ... that Guy Lombardo & his Royal Canadians popularized the tradition of heralding the arrival of New Year's Day to audiences around the world with a rendition of Auld Lang Syne for nearly five decades ? Source:
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  • Comment: 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL

Created by William Crump (talk). Nominated by 160.72.80.178 (talk) at 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Did you know; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC) 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

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Request to add Guy Lombardo to the DYK Queue for review before New Years Day

{DYK admins}} Cia DYK administrators: If possible, kindly add the biography about Guy Lombardo to the DYK queue for review, ASAP using the hook which is related to NEW YEARS DAY as described below. Many thanks in advance for your help & HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!!160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL

Did you know nomination

Guy Lombardo

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Photo of band leader Guy Lombardo

• ... that Guy Lombardo & his Royal Canadians popularized the tradition of heralding the arrival of New Year's Day to audiences around the world with a rendition of Auld Lang Syne for nearly five decades ? Source:
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  • Comment: 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL

Created by William Crump (talk). Nominated by 160.72.80.178 (talk) at 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Did you know; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.

160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC)NHPL 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:00, 7 December 2023 (UTC) 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:44, 7 December 2023 (UTC) 160.72.80.178 (talk) 18:51, 7 December 2023 (UTC)

References

Question from Suman200722 (14:56, 8 December 2023)

Hey mentor how you doing i tryna put my promo Link in External Links but my edit got undone and deleted but y mine got deleted while many others are putting their link what should i do so I can also place my link there like other --Suman200722 (talk) 14:56, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

@Suman200722: Wikipedia does not allow promotional links in their articles. If others are doing it, you should post a notice on the talk page or remove it if it is an obvious promotional link. Z1720 (talk) 15:01, 8 December 2023 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2023

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2023).

Administrator changes

• Ganesha811
• JPxG

• Ajpolino
• Lourdes
• Mairi
• RockMFR
• Somno
• WilyD

Beeblebrox → Just Step Sideways

CheckUser changes

• Beeblebrox
• Opabinia regalis

Oversight changes

• Beeblebrox
• Opabinia regalis

Guideline and policy news

• Following a talk page discussion, the Administrators' accountability policy has been updated to note that while it is considered best practice for administrators to have notifications (pings) enabled, this is not mandatory. Administrators who do not use notifications are now strongly encouraged to indicate this on their user page.

Arbitration

• Following a motion, the Extended Confirmed Restriction has been amended, removing the allowance for non-extended-confirmed editors to post constructive comments on the "Talk:" namespace. Now, non-extended-confirmed editors may use the "Talk:" namespace solely to make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided that their actions are not disruptive.
• The Arbitration Committee has announced a call for Checkusers and Oversighters, stating that it will currently be accepting applications for CheckUser and/or Oversight permissions at any point in the year.
• Eligible users are invited to vote on candidates for the Arbitration Committee until 23:59 December 11, 2023 (UTC). Candidate statements can be seen here.

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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D looks at the Russian invasion of Ukraine Op-ed: Nick-D on writing Rhodesian military articles

The Bugle is published by the Military history WikiProject. To receive it on your talk page, please join the project or sign up here.
If you are a project member who does not want delivery, please remove your name from this page. Your editors, Ian Rose (talk) and Nick-D (talk) 00:00, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Question from Salt & Candy Agency (10:53, 13 December 2023)

Hello. I'd like to know how I could change my username? I just realised it might be in violation of Wiki's username policy. --Salt & Candy Agency (talk) 10:53, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

@Salt & Candy Agency: Instructions on how to do this can beb found at WP:RENAME. Feel free to message me below if you have any additional questions. Z1720 (talk) 14:09, 13 December 2023 (UTC)

A WP:DYK holiday award for you?

		The DYK holiday award goes to?
		Thank you for allowing me to work with you in this section of the project. I want to wish you happy holidays! Lightburst (talk) 19:00, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

FYI

I left a message for the nominator of a review you just passed. Thanks. Viriditas (talk) 17:04, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Thank you for taking the time to peer review articles I put up for the process (2 of them are good articles now)! I will always be grateful for your help. Davest3r08 >:) (talk) 15:12, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

A solstice greeting

❄️ Happy holidays! ❄️

Hi Z1720! I'd like to wish you a splendid solstice season as we wrap up the year. Here is an artwork, made individually for you, to celebrate. It was great to meet you in Toronto! Take care, and thanks for all you do to make Wikipedia better!

Cheers,
{{u|Sdkb}} ^talk

Solstice Celebration for Z1720, 2023, DALL·E 3.

(View full series)

Note: The vibes are winter solsticey. If you're in the southern hemisphere, oops, apologies.

{{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:12, 24 December 2023 (UTC)

A Christmas gift for you (sorry it's not the ACE results)

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Z1720, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, Spicy (talk) 16:59, 24 December 2023 (UTC) Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

GAR nominations

Please note that when nominating an article for GAR, you should always notify the WikiProjects on the talk page and any recently-active major editors, per the instructions at WP:GAR. I do not think you did that for the three articles you recently nominated there. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 18:49, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

@AirshipJungleman29: Thanks for letting me know. I have been using the GAR helper script to nominate articles and assumed that it completed all the steps for me, including notifying Wikiprojects. I will keep this in mind for future nominations. Z1720 (talk) 18:54, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

The GAR helper script notifies previous nominators/reviewers of the articles, albeit with tickboxes if you don't want to alert them for whatever reason; after you have pressed the "submit" button, it auto-formats the {{subst:GARMessage|ArticleName|page=n}} ~~~~ message for you to copy-paste onto relevant talk pages. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

Yonkers Peer review

I responded to you on the peer review with questions I do have. The Cadillac Ranger (talk) 02:08, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

ACE2023 congratulations

Hello Z1720, you have been elected to the arbitration committee! The results of the election are available here: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee Elections December 2023#Results. You will likely be contacted by the existing committee for onboarding. Best regards, — xaosflux ^Talk 01:43, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Congratulations, Z1720! Good luck with all of those email messages! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:07, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

2024 Arbitration Committee

The Arbitration Committee welcomes the following new and returning arbitrators following their election by the community. The two-year terms of these arbitrators formally begin on 1 January 2024:

• Aoidh (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Cabayi (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Firefly (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• HJ Mitchell (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Maxim (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Sdrqaz (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• ToBeFree (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Z1720 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Upon meeting the Wikimedia Foundation's criteria for access to non-public personal data and signing the Foundation's non-public information confidentiality agreement, all incoming arbitrators will be subscribed to all Committee-managed email lists, assigned the CheckUser and Oversight permissions for use in office, and given access to the CheckUser and Oversight queues on the VRTS system.

We also thank our outgoing colleagues whose terms end on 31 December 2023:

• Enterprisey (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Izno (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• SilkTork (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
• Wugapodes (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to retain the CheckUser and Oversight permissions, to remain active on cases accepted before their term ended, and to remain subscribed to the functionaries' and arbitration clerks' mailing lists following their term on the committee. To that effect:

• Stewards are requested to remove the permission(s) noted from the following outgoing arbitrators, who have not elected to retain them, after 31 December 2023:

  CheckUser: Enterprisey, Izno, SilkTork

  Oversight: Enterprisey, Izno, SilkTork

• Outgoing arbitrators are eligible to remain active on cases opened before their term ended if they wish. Whether or not outgoing arbitrators will remain active on any ongoing case(s) will be noted on the proposed decision talk page of affected case(s).
• All outgoing arbitrators will remain subscribed to the functionaries' mailing list, with the exception of Enterprisey, who has elected to be unsubscribed.
• All outgoing arbitrators will be unsubscribed from the clerks-l mailing list, with the exception of Izno, who has elected to remain subscribed.

For the Arbitration Committee, KevinL (aka L235 · t · c) 04:24, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

Discuss this at: Wikipedia talk:Arbitration Committee/Noticeboard § 2024 Arbitration Committee

Welcome to the 2024 WikiCup!

Happy New Year and Happy New WikiCup! The 2024 competition has just begun and all article creators, expanders, improvers and reviewers are welcome to take part. Even if you are a novice editor you should be able to advance to at least the second round, improving your editing skills as you go. If you have already signed up, your submissions page can be found here. If you have not yet signed up, you can add your name here and the judges will set up your submissions page ready for you to take part. Any questions on the scoring, rules or anything else should be directed to one of the judges, or posted to the WikiCup talk page. Signups will close on 31 January, and the first round will end on 26 February; the 64 highest scorers at that time will move on to round 2. The judges for the WikiCup this year are: Cwmhiraeth (talk · contribs · email), Epicgenius (talk · contribs · email), and Frostly (talk · contribs · email). Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:21, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – January 2024

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2023).

Administrator changes

Clovermoss

Dennis Brown

• Julia W
• Marasmusine
• PBS

CheckUser changes

• Aoidh
• HJ Mitchell
• Sdrqaz
• Spicy
• ToBeFree
• Vanamonde93
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Oversighter changes

• Aoidh
• Firefly
• Sdrqaz
• ToBeFree
• Z1720

Maxim

• Enterprisey
• Izno
• SilkTork

Arbitration

• Following the 2023 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been appointed to the Arbitration Committee: Aoidh, Cabayi, Firefly, HJ Mitchell, Maxim, Sdrqaz, ToBeFree, Z1720.
• Following a motion, the Arbitration Committee rescinded the restrictions on the page name move discussions for the two Ireland pages that were enacted in June 2009.
• The arbitration case Industrial agriculture has been closed.

Miscellaneous

• The New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles in the new pages feed. Currently, there is a backlog of over 13,000 unreviewed articles awaiting review. Sign up here to participate!

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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:54, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

Happy New Year, Z1720!

Happy New Year!

Z1720,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Abishe (talk) 15:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

   Send New Year cheer by adding {{subst:Happy New Year fireworks}} to user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 15:03, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

HMS Vanguard (1909) TFA

Hi Z1720, and thank you for your contributions. The Vanguard is a fine ship indeed, but I am here to politely ask if you would consider rescheduling the TFA. I understand that I am making a very late proposed add to the TFA list, but I have been entirely reworking a very old album FA of Green Day's Dookie from the depths of 2007, and this seminal, iconic rock album turns 30 on 1 February. I'm afraid I'm too late for that deadline, but I have been rapidly translating a fully-developed French version into the English page, and 22 February was the day its lead single "Longview" debuted on MTV and began to propel the band into rock legend. I plan to have it fully functional by tomorrow evening, and I'm assuming this FA is old enough to be re-run (I don't know if it is, so you can stop me here if it isn't). I see the nominator was someone else but they have not yet offered support on the TFA proposition; if you would like me to consult Sturmvogel I would be happy to.

I completely understand if you or Sturmvogel wish to decline, as it has appeared on the front page once many moons ago and you have a canonical anniversary date set, but 30 years is a big milestone for this record, and it's not just any record. Again, your decision, but I figured the worst I could hear is no. Happy new year, dannymusiceditor ^oops 20:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor: I am not a TFA coordinator, so I only propose articles for TFA's consideration. I have no objections to swapping articles, although I have not taken a close look at the Dookie article. Pinging @WP:TFA coordinators . Z1720 (talk) 20:22, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

As it is, it wouldn't pass; I'll need until no later than the end of the day tomorrow night (EST) to finish the touches to Dookie. It's gone unnoticed as a decaying article for a long time until I picked it up and started sporadically improving it in bursts starting just about a year ago. But 30 years is 30 years, and if you'll humor me I can do the rest in one run of a handful of hours. dannymusiceditor ^oops 20:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

@DannyMusicEditor: When you are done, I'd appreciate it if you could mark it as "Satisfactory" at WP:URFA/2020A. Thanks. Z1720 (talk) 20:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Gog the Mild is scheduling February. Wehwalt (talk) 20:27, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

• DannyMusicEditor you are cutting this damn fine. I am in the middle of a run of scheduling and am five away from Vanguard. I am not necessarily preferring either of these at the moment. So I shall stop at Vanguard and possibly sleeping on it will bring clarity. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:26, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

  I completely understand. I'll get cracking on Dookie to make it as presentable as possible to you tonight. dannymusiceditor ^oops 21:28, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

DannyMusicEditor, once you have it more or less as you want it, could you nominate it at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests immediately below HMS Vanguard to give the community at least some chance to comment. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

Gog the Mild, it's about a quarter to one in the morning in eastern America, and after taking a break for a few hours from my last message, I've spent roughly the last four and a half translating French. I'm going to sleep for a little bit, but I should have this done imminently - I still have to polish the live performances and write about this album's legacy (of course it has one, it's a diamond record), but I do not work tomorrow and I could not be happier spending my free time completing this. Any further updates I will send to your talk page. dannymusiceditor ^oops 05:43, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

Congratulations from the Military History Project

		Military history reviewers' award
		On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (2 stripes) for participating in 7 reviews between October and December 2023. Hawkeye7 (talk) via MilHistBot (talk) 00:31, 3 January 2024 (UTC) Keep track of upcoming reviews. Just copy and paste {{WPMILHIST Review alerts}} to your user space