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== Pseudoscience == |
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The mainstream source is precisly about pseudoscience. |
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The serious matters that are a threat to public health are: |
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"The ‘Keep libel laws out of science’ campaign was launched on 4 June 2009, in the UK. Simon Singh, a science writer who alerted the public about the lack of evidence supporting chiropractic treatments, was sued for libel by the British Chiropractic Association (Sense about Science, 2009). Similar examples can be found in almost any country. In Spain, another science writer, Luis Alfonso Ga´mez, was also sued after he alerted the public on the lack of evidence supporting the claims of a popular pseudoscientist (Ga´mez, 2007). In the USA, 54% of the population believes in psychic healing and 36% believe in telepathy (Newport & Strausberg, 2001). In Europe, the statistics are not too different. According to the Special Eurobarometer on Science and Technology (European Commission, 2005), and just to mention a few examples, a high percentage of Europeans consider homeopathy (34%) and horoscopes (13%) to be good science. Moreover, ‘the past decade has witnessed acceleration both in consumer interest in and use of CAM (complementary and alternative medicine) practices and/or products. Surveys indicate that those with the most serious and debilitating medical conditions, such as cancer, chronic pain, and HIV, tend to be the most frequent users of the CAM practices’ (White House Commission on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Policy, 2002, p. 15). Elements of the latest USA presidential campaign have also been frequently cited as examples of how superstitious beliefs of all types are still happily alive and promoted in our Western societies (e.g., Katz, 2008). On another, quite dramatic example, Science Magazine recently alerted about the increase in ‘stem cell tourism’, which consists of travelling to another country in the hope of finding a stem cell-based treatment for a disease when such a treatment has not yet been approved in one’s own country (Kiatpongsan & Sipp, 2009). This being the current state of affairs it is not easy to counteract the power and credibility of pseudoscience." |
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The threat to public health is a statement made as a conclusion rather than an assumption. This is indeed about the topic pseudoscience according to the source. For example, "This being the current state of affairs it is not easy to counteract the power and credibility of pseudoscience." |
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One of the main pseudoscience points from full text is: "As preoccupied and active as many governmental and sceptical organizations are in their fight against pseudoscience, quackery, superstitions and related problems, their efforts in making the public understand the scientific facts required to make good and informed decisions are not always as effective as they should be. Pseudoscience can be defined as any belief or practice that pretends to be scientific but lacks supporting evidence. Quackery is a particular type of pseudoscience that refers to medical treatments. Superstitions are irrational beliefs that normally involve cause–effect relations that are not real, as those found in pseudoscience and quackery. These are a serious matter of public health and educational policy in which many variables are involved." |
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The authors summarised the public health issue in the abstract. According to the source pseudoscience is a serious matter that threatens public health. It is [[WP:OR]] if we don't summarise the main pseudoscience points because it would be taking the source out of context. |
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From abstract: "Pseudoscience, superstitions, and quackery are serious problems that threaten public health and in which many variables are involved." |
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{{cite journal |journal=Br J Psychol |year=2010 |volume= |issue= |pages= |title= Illusions of causality at the heart of pseudoscience |author= Matute H, Yarritu I, Vadillo MA |doi=10.1348/000712610X532210 |pmid=21092400}} |
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As a point of fact, there are hundreds of WP:V-compliant sources on the subject. However, the Matute source is [[peer-review]]ed and should be given [[WP:DUEWEIGHT]]. The text and source meets [[WP:SOURCES]]. It would be a violation of NPOV to imply a serious dispute where there is none. The text does not need to be attributed becuase editors disgree with researchers. I think that a summary of Matutue et al. does contribute a lot to [[Pseudoscience#Demographics]], [[Pseudoscience#Psychological explanations]] and [[Pseudoscience#Health and education implications]]. The [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pseudoscience&curid=23047&diff=438515467&oldid=438498377 text passes V]. Please don't delete sourced text again. [[User:QuackGuru|QuackGuru]] ([[User talk:QuackGuru|talk]]) 03:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC) |
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Hello, I noticed you deleted all the information i put down on the Grameen Foundation because they were primary resources. I am fairly new at editing and I am doing this for a class project for my University. I would very much appreciate any help or advice you could give me regarding my edits as well as allow me to make edits. Jvele (talk) 04:31, 3 May 2011 (UTC) jvele
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I replied to your comment and made a proposal. I'm a volunteer like everyone else. So please respect my time and let's get straight down to the work at hand, ok? QuackGuru (talk) 22:38, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
You claimed "You can see the full text on the authors' web site. (This paper was not published in the intended issue (11/2010) of the BJP but exists as a preprint. There is no explanation for its exclusion from the intended issue and there are no published plans to include it in a future issue.) Jojalozzo 02:27, 22 June 2011 (UTC)"
- Where is your evidence the source was withrawn or never published. QuackGuru (talk) 00:43, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not responding on my talk page. Bring this up in context. Jojalozzo 01:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- You claimed "there are no published plans to include it in a future issue." How did you come to that conclusion. QuackGuru (talk) 01:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- I asked you to stop this less than an hour ago as I have done other times you have left messages for me about the Matute paper. Continuing to post here is further evidence of your difficulty hearing what others say. I will seek administrative assistance if you post anything further about the Matutue paper on this page. Jojalozzo 01:55, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- You claimed "there are no published plans to include it in a future issue." How did you come to that conclusion. QuackGuru (talk) 01:26, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
- Not responding on my talk page. Bring this up in context. Jojalozzo 01:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
FYI: Pseudoscience editing is subject to restrictions
This note is to inform you that Pseudoscience articles are subject to editing restrictions, as outlined by the Arbitration Committee. Please read and familiarize yourself with this remedy. KillerChihuahua?!?Advice 14:18, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Pseudoscience, Matute
Hey, I put this together with OrangeMarlin. The talk page is a bit hectic so I thought I'd try and get your feedback on it before proposing there. Let me know what you think:
- Pseudoscience and a lack of scientific literacy are a concern among scientists[1], teachers[2], and other professionals[3]. While pseudoscience in the paranormal realm regarding superstitions like astrology are typically physically harmless, pseudoscience in medicine[4] (quackery), law-enforcement[5] (psychic detectives), and psychiatry[6][7] (unproven techniques) can lead individuals to pursue harmful treatments and avoid helpful ones, in addition to expending time and money in the process.
- ^ http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind06/c7/c7s2.htm
- ^ http://www.bioone.org/doi/abs/10.1662/0002-7685(2006)68%5B197%3ATIOTTN%5D2.0.CO%3B2
- ^ http://dlib.eastview.com/browse/doc/6670647
- ^ http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1348/000712610X532210/abstract
- ^ http://cjb.sagepub.com/content/35/10/1215.short
- ^ http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=OY05uZUCaTsC&oi=fnd&pg=PA187&dq=is+pseudoscience+harmful&ots=-1FHlvaCZk&sig=ZYRpmIAejEANvuNfxU6ggYh1iKM#v=onepage&q&f=false
- ^ http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=U8cr8uHesvEC&oi=fnd&pg=PA1&dq=is+pseudoscience+harmful&ots=FZO-OXbm5X&sig=6k3QifBA4fSehT9p9rEpF4I_XQA#v=onepage&q=is%20pseudoscience%20harmful&f=false
- Restricting Matute et al. to pseudo-medicine is certainly an improvement. However, aren't there sources that actually document the public health risks of quackery and provide citations to back them up? I don't see any reason to include Matute et al. except as backup to real solid, informative sources and even then it really not that good for that use. It's a great source for a section on why we are susceptible to pseudoscience (and I'd be willing to work on such a section - wish I'd thought of that 6 months ago) but it's just not about the negative effects of quackery and I don't see a good Wikipedian reason to use it here.
- Are there sources to allow us to include the impacts of pseudoscience in investment fraud?
- Jojalozzo 18:40, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
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Pseudoscience
The mainstream source is precisly about pseudoscience.
The serious matters that are a threat to public health are:
"The ‘Keep libel laws out of science’ campaign was launched on 4 June 2009, in the UK. Simon Singh, a science writer who alerted the public about the lack of evidence supporting chiropractic treatments, was sued for libel by the British Chiropractic Association (Sense about Science, 2009). Similar examples can be found in almost any country. In Spain, another science writer, Luis Alfonso Ga´mez, was also sued after he alerted the public on the lack of evidence supporting the claims of a popular pseudoscientist (Ga´mez, 2007). In the USA, 54% of the population believes in psychic healing and 36% believe in telepathy (Newport & Strausberg, 2001). In Europe, the statistics are not too different. According to the Special Eurobarometer on Science and Technology (European Commission, 2005), and just to mention a few examples, a high percentage of Europeans consider homeopathy (34%) and horoscopes (13%) to be good science. Moreover, ‘the past decade has witnessed acceleration both in consumer interest in and use of CAM (complementary and alternative medicine) practices and/or products. Surveys indicate that those with the most serious and debilitating medical conditions, such as cancer, chronic pain, and HIV, tend to be the most frequent users of the CAM practices’ (White House Commission on Complementary and Alternative Medicine Policy, 2002, p. 15). Elements of the latest USA presidential campaign have also been frequently cited as examples of how superstitious beliefs of all types are still happily alive and promoted in our Western societies (e.g., Katz, 2008). On another, quite dramatic example, Science Magazine recently alerted about the increase in ‘stem cell tourism’, which consists of travelling to another country in the hope of finding a stem cell-based treatment for a disease when such a treatment has not yet been approved in one’s own country (Kiatpongsan & Sipp, 2009). This being the current state of affairs it is not easy to counteract the power and credibility of pseudoscience."
The threat to public health is a statement made as a conclusion rather than an assumption. This is indeed about the topic pseudoscience according to the source. For example, "This being the current state of affairs it is not easy to counteract the power and credibility of pseudoscience."
One of the main pseudoscience points from full text is: "As preoccupied and active as many governmental and sceptical organizations are in their fight against pseudoscience, quackery, superstitions and related problems, their efforts in making the public understand the scientific facts required to make good and informed decisions are not always as effective as they should be. Pseudoscience can be defined as any belief or practice that pretends to be scientific but lacks supporting evidence. Quackery is a particular type of pseudoscience that refers to medical treatments. Superstitions are irrational beliefs that normally involve cause–effect relations that are not real, as those found in pseudoscience and quackery. These are a serious matter of public health and educational policy in which many variables are involved."
The authors summarised the public health issue in the abstract. According to the source pseudoscience is a serious matter that threatens public health. It is WP:OR if we don't summarise the main pseudoscience points because it would be taking the source out of context.
From abstract: "Pseudoscience, superstitions, and quackery are serious problems that threaten public health and in which many variables are involved."
Matute H, Yarritu I, Vadillo MA (2010). "Illusions of causality at the heart of pseudoscience". Br J Psychol. doi:10.1348/000712610X532210. PMID 21092400.{{cite journal}}
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As a point of fact, there are hundreds of WP:V-compliant sources on the subject. However, the Matute source is peer-reviewed and should be given WP:DUEWEIGHT. The text and source meets WP:SOURCES. It would be a violation of NPOV to imply a serious dispute where there is none. The text does not need to be attributed becuase editors disgree with researchers. I think that a summary of Matutue et al. does contribute a lot to Pseudoscience#Demographics, Pseudoscience#Psychological explanations and Pseudoscience#Health and education implications. The text passes V. Please don't delete sourced text again. QuackGuru (talk) 03:11, 9 July 2011 (UTC)