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'''Support''' Blurb could link to a section in the original article. [[User:Wikifan12345|<span style="color:#6E6D6D">Wikifan</span>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Wikifan12345|Be nice]]</small></sup> 06:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
'''Support''' Blurb could link to a section in the original article. [[User:Wikifan12345|<span style="color:#6E6D6D">Wikifan</span>]]<sup><small>[[User_talk:Wikifan12345|Be nice]]</small></sup> 06:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
*'''Oppose''' for now. This saga has been on-going for a couple of years and there have been no recent developments of note. Indeed, the experiences of Shane Bauer and Joshua Fattal are only notable to the juxtapositional extent that they have been treated better than any young Iranian men could expect to treated if they strayed across the U.S. border while hiking in Canada - at least they've been named, charged with actual crimes, represented by lawyers, brought before real Judges in real Courts and have had contact with the outside world. [[User:Deterence|<i><b><font color="Blue" face="Mistral">Deterence</font></b></i>]] [[User talk:Deterence|<sup><font color="Blue">Talk</font></sup>]] 07:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)


==September 14==
==September 14==

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September 15

September 15, 2011 (2011-09-15) (Thursday)
Business and economy

Disasters

International relations

Law and crime

Politics and elections

Science

2009–2011 detention of Americans by Iran

Article: 2009–2011 detention of Americans by Iran (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ tbd (Post)
News source(s): [1]
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Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Earlier this year we posted the Raymond Davis case which seems similar to this. Note the two remaining Americans have yet to be released, but it's expected soon. --Hot Stop talk-contribs 05:53, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Blurb could link to a section in the original article. WikifanBe nice 06:00, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose for now. This saga has been on-going for a couple of years and there have been no recent developments of note. Indeed, the experiences of Shane Bauer and Joshua Fattal are only notable to the juxtapositional extent that they have been treated better than any young Iranian men could expect to treated if they strayed across the U.S. border while hiking in Canada - at least they've been named, charged with actual crimes, represented by lawyers, brought before real Judges in real Courts and have had contact with the outside world. Deterence Talk 07:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 14

September 14, 2011 (2011-09-14) (Wednesday)
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DuPont/Kolon Kevlar trade secrets case

Article: DuPont (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ DuPont is awarded $920m damages for the theft of Kevlar manufacturing trade secrets by Kolon Industries. (Post)
News source(s): [2] [3] [4] [5] [6]
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Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: I'm putting this forward as a business story wholy unrelated to IT, which is a subcategory we don't feature much of. I was surprised to see we currently don't have any coverage at all of this case (much less an update) so on looking at what we do have, I've tentatively suggested the DuPont article is the best place for it. I'll try and get the article updated but that won't be until later today now. Crispmuncher (talk) 03:56, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I would suggest writing an article about the case if you can; the DuPont article probably would be overburdened by something like this. If it can't make ITN in time, there is always DYK. NW (Talk) 04:15, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Support it seems like a major fine. But an article or update is needed. Hot Stop talk-contribs 05:44, 15 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 13

September 13, 2011 (2011-09-13) (Tuesday)
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Death of Richard Hamilton

Article: Richard Hamilton (artist) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ One of the pioneers of pop art, Richard Hamilton, dies at the age of 89. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Article needs updating
 --Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 19:26, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant

Article: Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The Bushehr Nuclear Power Plant, the first nuclear power facility in the Middle East, officially begins operating in Iran. (Post)
News source(s): RT
Credits:

Article updated
 GreyHood Talk 18:24, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 12

September 12, 2011 (2011-09-12) (Monday)
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Discovery of more than 50 new exoplanets

French reactor blast

Withdrawn. NW (Talk) 15:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  • Terrorism on my part was speculation. I wrote this up in about 60 seconds on my way out the door. Now that I have had a chance to read everything more carefully, I am withdrawing the nomination. NW (Talk) 15:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nairobi pipeline blast kills 100

2011 Kenya pipeline fire <-- found it. -- Ashish-g55 16:00, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Actually, I experienced a sense of deja vu when I read the details behind this explosion - local peasants stealing fuel from leaky pipeline until the local village idiot turns up with a cigarette in his mouth. We see a news item identical to this every couple of years. Deterence Talk 02:17, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

September 11

September 11, 2011 (2011-09-11) (Sunday)
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2011 FIBA Americas Championship

Article: 2011 FIBA Americas Championship (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In basketball, Argentina defeats Brazil to win their second FIBA Americas Championship. (Post)
News source(s): Globe and Mail
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Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Argentina is #3 in the FIBA World Rankings, while Brazil is #16 so this is not some small time tourney. –HTD 11:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This is not a day of Brazil ;) Leaning support. GreyHood Talk 11:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup

Article: 2011 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Russia beats Brazil 12:8 to win the 2011 FIFA Beach Soccer World Cup. (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
 GreyHood Talk 19:36, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Support Posting this once every two years is not going to kill ITN. The Resident Anthropologist (talk)•(contribs) 00:11, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • A better way to judge this might be to think about what would happen if we were to post every sports competition of equal or greater significance. If I were to make a rough guess I'd say there are at least three hundred of those every year. JimSukwutput 06:12, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

2011 Vuelta a España

In cycling, Juan José Cobo from Spain, wins the Vuelta a España. Last year was on ITN. [9] - EugεnS¡m¡on(14) ® 07:20, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment. Not sure. The third biggest tour behind the Tour and the Giro. Did we post the Giro earlier this year? If not, then I would probably oppose. And I assume we also post the world championships? How many cycling blurbs should we have per year? Also, please note I tweaked the blurb a little. Jenks24 (talk) 09:21, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support but when it officially ends. It's a Grand Tour that means equal to Tour or Giro, and regardless of its lower media coverage and interest we have a basic rationale for posting.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
    • If it's common practice to post all three Grand Tours, that's fine with me, but there's no way that the Vuelta is the equivalent of the Tour or Giro. As you say, it has "lower media coverage and interest" and the quality of cycling is also lower. Jenks24 (talk) 09:31, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
      • I mean, according to the UCI and its regulations all Grand Tours are ranked on same level within the UCI Pro Tour calendar year. Thus avoiding further confusion, the main inequalities are based historically with the significance of Tour de France in the past that kept its wider media coverage and interest to the recent times. The same is in tennis with Wimbledon.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 10:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose. Really nowhere near on a par with the other two Grand Tours, as demonstrated by the anonymity of its winner. Lets not forget that in road cycling we'll post the World Championships as well in a few weeks time. --Mkativerata (talk) 11:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm not sure how notable this result can be when I've never even heard of this race before. Deterence Talk 11:42, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I can only take it that you do not follow international sport much. Surely an encyclopaedia should inform. I suspect that the vast majority of Main Page readers had not heard of Alexander Sokurov, Jürgen Stark, Sakhalin, or Baha Mousa before coming to this page. Kevin McE (talk) 11:53, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] 2011 US Open

Articles: Novak Djokovic (talk · history · tag) and Samantha Stosur (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In tennis, Samantha Stosur wins the women's singles and /Novak Djokovic wins the men's singles at the US Open. (Post)
Credits:

Both articles need updating
One or both nominated events are listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
 --Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 06:43, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Added as a note. Avenue X at Cicero (talk) 08:17, 11 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
We seem to debate this every time but I don't think ITNR is clear that the Women's result is not ITNR, so I disagree with Crispmuncher. There's certainly precedent for posting the Women's result and then simply updating when we have the men's. The BBC doens't wait for the men's tournament to finish before it posts the Women's result.--Johnsemlak (talk) 21:13, 12 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"Conclusion of the tournament or series" seems pretty clear to me. You could argue they are distinct but they are combined on ITNR. Given sport is generally over-represented on ITNR anyway I don't see the virtue of effectively double-counting the entries already on there. An update doesn't do that but an update + bump does. Crispmuncher (talk) 21:25, 12 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]
Aren't the women's and men's circuits conducted separately? So the men's and women's tournaments in these Grand Slams are separately two different tournaments? –HTD 04:28, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well you have the ATP and WTA for the tours, but the actual tournaments are combined AFAIK. Each grand slam event also only has a single ITNR listing, and the expected stories per year also indicates the intention is for a single post. Crispmuncher (talk) 06:16, 13 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]
I might concede on that point, but I still see very little value in waiting to post the women's result of tennis majors for a day if the article's updated. One of the biggest problems with ITN is that it's slow to post news. I'm ok with simply updating the blurb sans bumb but in most cases an update+bumb just one day later will have minimal practical effect.--Johnsemlak (talk) 03:32, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
hmmm...THIS is sufficient prose???
btw- i updated at 5-1...expected at least 6-3 or 7-5 at worst. EASTERN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!! Almost a grand slam in the yearLihaas (talk) 00:40, 13 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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