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== Archived copy ==

Archived copy is a bad reference title.
Whatever out of date editing tools you and many other editors are using continues to do this anyway adding many more [[Category:CS1 maint: archived copy as title]] errors to articles, like this edit[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transformers_(film)&diff=1066229185&oldid=1062906694 diff]. Please manually fix the reference titles if you are going to continue to use broken editing tools. I have fixed[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Transformers_(film)&diff=1066229185&oldid=1065323459] the error in this case. -- [[Special:Contributions/109.76.204.243|109.76.204.243]] ([[User talk:109.76.204.243|talk]]) 16:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

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Another year template taking parameters

Just came across a page with {{DeathyrBC}} and was a bit surprised to see that it still takes parameters. I guess it's part of a set that's on your to-do-someday list. I could probably do it myself, but not with the full elegance & failsafes that you bring.

I'm really glad you're still here, BrownHairedGirl. Thanks for all that you do.

Best wishes for a happy Christmas and New Year! – Fayenatic London 10:08, 22 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Happy Holidays!

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2022!

Hello BrownHairedGirl, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2022.
Happy editing,

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Hello BrownHairedGirl. Noticing your revert, please take a closer look: the template {{Cite newspaper The Times}} is not the same like {{cite journal}}. Cheers and have a nice Xmas Lotje (talk) 16:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lotje
Many thanks for your message, and for your two reverts. I had spotted that something seemed odd there, and had stopped my regular AWB job to cleanup Category:CS1 errors: unsupported parameter pending investigation. I meant to check those 2 pages, but got sidetracked, and if wasn't for your kind attention I might have forgotten to go back and check.
I was not aware of {{Cite newspaper The Times}}, but i until you mentioned it, and seemed to me that {{Cite newspaper The Times}} should use the same forma of params as other cite templates. So I went there to suggest standardisation ... only to find that @Trappist the monk had gotten there first, with a well-reasoned and clearly-explained proposal to standardise them: see Template talk:Cite_newspaper_The_Times#parameters_that_ought_to_be_deprecated_and_removed.
I hope that TTM's proposed changes go ahead so that this glitch doesn't appear again.
Beannachtaí Na Nollag! BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:00, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you BrownHairedGirl for digging into this.
@Trappist the monk: do you have a solution for articles like the List of radio channel stations in Vietnam where tiêu đề should be replaced by title? Thank you for your time and Merry Xmas (that is, if you, just like I celebrate this) . Lotje (talk) 07:06, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Search and replace. I have been tinkering with a translator module that will be called when a non-English cs1|2 template name is used. When deployed (and when a translation data set is available) the module will automatically translate and a bot will then subst that translation. It's mostly drudge work so I only pick at it. Maybe someday it will be sufficiently complete to publish.
Trappist the monk (talk) 11:34, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Trappist the monk: that module would be handy if and when you get it working, but no hurry.
Meanwhile, I have just gone to vi:Bản mẫu:Chú thích web and added translation of the Vietnamese-language parameters to the AWB script I use to clean up Category:CS1 errors: unsupported parameter. So any further uses will be an easy fix, along with the other languages which I have already coded for. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:03, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bare URL

Hi, can you please help me and let me know why you keep tagging “ bare URL link “because I cited the source and it was working and now with that it’s not opening to the source cited link. I would like to resolve this for you but I’m not quite certain the issue. Can you please explain it to me. That way I can better assist. Thanks for your help. @Naebwe Naebwe (talk) 20:21, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Naebwe: see WP:Bare URLs for an explanation of why they are a problem that needs to be fixed.
What link are you saying is broken, on what article? BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:21, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Year in country category v2 has been listed at templates for discussion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. User:GKFXtalk 22:24, 24 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

"Category:Wikipedians who put really really long redlinked categories at the bottom of their userpage as a conversation piece" listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Category:Wikipedians who put really really long redlinked categories at the bottom of their userpage as a conversation piece and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 December 25#Category:Wikipedians who put really really long redlinked categories at the bottom of their userpage as a conversation piece until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:39, 25 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, BrownHairedGirl. You have new messages at User talk:BrownHairedGirl/No-reflinks websites.
Message added 10:44, 26 December 2021 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, can you take a look at this?. Strange looking result on the the bottom the page. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 14:18, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lotje: That was a GIGO problem, which goes back to this[1] edit in 2017 by a new user. {{|URLhttps://www.imdb.com/name/nm1372572/?ref_=pro_nm_visitcons}} is a malformed attempt at {{URL|https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1372572/?ref_=pro_nm_visitcons}} (which itself would be inappropriate), but the {{| start means that it isn't recognised as a template. So AWB's WP:GENFIXES did something weird with it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:26, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you BrownHairedGirl, looked to me like a giga, mega problem. Cheers. Lotje (talk) 16:30, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I would just go and remove it. Would that cause a probleme? Lotje (talk) 16:35, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Lotje: I was just doing that when you posted. The notification came up as I previewed the edit summary for this edit.[2]
So it's now gone. I counted five layers of brokenness in that 2017 edit,[3] which is a bit of record. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:41, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Y're a star. thanks Lotje (talk) 16:42, 26 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

re changes of "better ref needed" template positioning

Hi Brown Haired Girl. So, you've been going thru articles and moving instances of {{better ref needed}} from inside to outside the <ref>...</ref> tags on references, with machine assistance I assume.

I'm not seeing this an improvement at all, actually the opposite, because it puts the "better source needed" note right in the middle of the the running text where the reader has to stumble over it an engage on a basically technical issue that hasn't much to do with what she's trying to study.

(Of course it depends. It's possible that the template text should appear inline, in some cases. That should probably be left to editor discretion.)

Yeah it's true that many years ago someone, maybe just on his own dime, or at any rate working with a small group of editors who are mostly long gone probably, and at any rate probably not considering the issue very deeply, decided to tell us to do it that way. But I mean a lot of people write things, and not all of them are excellent. But excellent or not, it's usually very hard to get anything like that modified, and when it's not very hard it's impossible.

This being so, my usual practice in situations where the instructions don't make sense or are counter-productive to what we're trying to do here is to ignore them. I mean I do this in real life too (when I can) since all large organization have silly rules. Functional organizations allow some slack on this or else they seize up and become dysfunctional organizations.

Also, in the case of my articles, I use the {{refs|reflist=...}} (which is even "legal" altho rare), as that puts all the refs together in one place and makes the raw article text a whole lot easier to edit in future (in the legacy text editor at least). In this case, putting the "better source needed" template outside the ref tags causes it to not appear at all. So that's definitely not an improvement.

And I mean I'd expect that most of the editors besides me who put the template inside the ref tags are also doing it on purpose for reasons they consider good. Why do we need to mess with that. Herostratus (talk) 09:40, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Herostratus: Sorry for the slow reply.
I think that if you want to change the existing guidance on those templates, you should open an RFC. In the meantime, see phab:T298352, which has been opened by GoingBatty. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:57, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! Based on your edits that continue to pop up on my watchlist, I expanded the AWB request so it now includes {{Better source needed}}, {{Primary source inline}}, and {{Unreliable source}}. Are there any more that should be added? Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@GoingBatty, yes, several more.
The full list I am working on is: {{Better source needed}}, {{Self-published inline}}, {{Unreliable fringe source}}, {{Irrelevant citation}}, {{Obsolete source}}, {{COI source}}, {{Promotional source}}, {{Unreliable source?}}, {{Failed verification}}, {{Primary source inline}}, {{Unreliable medical source}}.
I was thinking of adding them myself to phab:T298352, but thanks for being ahead of me. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Updated, and gave you credit for the list. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 06:49, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You are v welcome! Thank you for opening the Phab ticket. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:54, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, RfC on stuff like this generally go nowhere, it's very difficult to get consensus either way. RfC is a tricky thing. Generally, to start doing a new thing which affects articles, you need a positive general agreement to do it, not the reverse. As to the merits of my point, you didn't address them. But fine, probably that should be done elsewhere.

It looks like what I'm seeing here is a new robot, or a new process, or something. I'm not familiar with Phabricator itself, but I know there's a bot approval process of some sort... I'll take that up with User:GoingBatty and not bother you all here.

If you'd hold on on further deployment of this new thing until we get this straightened out, that'd be appreciated, thanks. Herostratus (talk) 11:22, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Herostratus: the set of articles I was cleaning up is 95% complete, so I'll finish that set.
Yes, I didn't respond on the substance. That's partly 'cos I was tired, but also 'cos any substantive discussion is better at an RFC. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 11:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Right, or somewhere else anyway. I'm not going to roll back the changes at this time, til I figure out how all this works. Thanks for responding, sorry to bother you. Herostratus (talk) 11:40, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I want to discuss about an Article Contact me Email - susovbloggs.immovableforce@gmail.com Lingodumpy (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Lingodumpy: I prefer that discussions about wiki should be on wiki. So, if you leave a message here, I will consider it ... but I will not email you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:08, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ok part the Channel and remove the conversations Lingodumpy (talk) 17:09, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Quotes

Why are you replacing Quote templates with Blockquote templates? Editor2020 (talk) 22:57, 28 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Editor2020: {{Quote}} is a redirect to {{Blockquote}}. Converting to the canonical form is part of AWB's WP:GENFIXES, which are generic uncontroversial changes that it does as part of an AWB edit. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:36, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Editor2020 (talk) 01:38, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help needed

Hello BrownHairedGirl, wonder if you happen to have a solution to these these templatestyles stripmarker in. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 17:26, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Lotje. I did a wee bit of investigation, and find that it is caused by the use in CS1/CS2 cite templates of {{Chem2}}. That template comes with a warning about this:
WP:COinS does not seem to me to suggest a remedy. But since there are 111 pages with this problem, some remedy is needed. I suggest that you ask at WT:CHEM? BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:22, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you ever so much BrownHairedGirl for digging deeper into this. I'll do as you suggest and keep you posted of the outcome. Lotje (talk) 06:30, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. Good luck in finding a solution. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:32, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Omanis By Blood

Looking at the Caption on the heading you've quoted Omanis were slaves brought to Oman..

Well I don't know how well have you studied Your Literature or History ? Simply because I wanted you to definitely find out whats the definition of Slavery ? Nevertheless I believe you perfectly wrote the Sultans who Were in Power in Zanzibar and the east African coast Now knowing that Do you wanna say that the Numbers of Those Arabs living in East Africa in early 40s to 60s were Africans ? Pakistan and Baluchistan were under Omans colony but in Africa They settled Even the Capital of Oman was in Zanzibar ...

Do you mean that all those Citizens who came Back to Britain where their Countries were ( Colonized ) are Slaves ? Well let me tell you more We do have Culture bondages where our Great Grandfather's and Mothers were Pure Omani Arabs who voyaged for survival and thet settled In East Africa coming back to Oman was not a Choice as you might Think it's Going back to our Roots ... Remember it's not because you are having the Certificate to Publish Whatever you wish than you will be free to write what you wish... This is Not the Kunte Kinte Slavery film of Going back and find where you come from. or as you quoted find better place to live !!!

My Dear you need to visit the areas and villages of Tribes to know who is native and who were welcomed ... 78.111.32.136 (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea what article you are talking about, or why you are telling me about it. I did not write about that topic.
And please do not address me as My Dear. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:07, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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@Qwerfjkl: Surely there's a way to bundle these notifications so that you're not filling up her talk page with three dozen of them at a time. jp×g 11:00, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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I saw an edit summary in my watchlist where you'd added a page to one of your lists, and checked User:BrownHairedGirl/No-reflinks websites -- the lists there look fairly impressive. One thing that occurs to me is that it might be possible to write a Zotero module (or something similar) to address the unparseability of some sites. There are thousands of sites in your sets, though, so it'd take forever to just start cranking through them all. However, it occurs to me that if there were a frequency list of which sites were used most often in references, it'd probably be possible to identify which were causing the most problems and fix them that way. Do you have anything like that? (I don't think it would be too hard to write a program to count the occurrences of each URL if not.) And, at any rate, is there any logic to which sites appear in which sets (and which subsections of a set)? Set 2, for example, has just 95 sites, whereas Set 3 has 1,220. jp×g 10:59, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your kind words, @JPxG. Happy new year!
The various sets of websites are just arbitrary chronological breaks. I add new websites to the sandbox when I encounter them, and then at some point finalise a list and add create a new live set. When I make that break is a bit random, but it's mostly a matter of time: when a bunch of sites has been tested in the sandbox for a week or two, and Reflinks has consistently failed to get a title, I move them to a live set.
A bot to do some of the analysis would be great. I have sketched out an outline of a way of doing this myself, and plan to get to it in a week or so ... but if someone else felt like doing the work, that would be great.
My plan:
  1. take the list I make from the latest dump on articles with bare URLs which lack an inline tag. (That is the basis of the lists I make for Citation bot: see User:BrownHairedGirl/Articles_with_bare_links and the history of that page).
  2. Combine that with a list of articles which transclude {{Bare URL inline}}, removing duplicates.
  3. Feed that list into AWB, passing each page in turn to an external program, which I plan to write in Perl.
    • That Perl script will scan each inline ref on the page, and make two lists: inline-tagged bare link URLs, and untagged bare link URLs. Each list gets added to a local file on my laptop.
  4. Take those lists, and in each case, strip each URL down to the root domain name
  5. For each list (the tagged and the untagged), write a simple hash-building script in Perl, to count the instances of each domain.
  6. Compare those lists with my existing sets, by whacking them into a set of sandbox and keeping only those which my current setup doesn't tag.
  7. Take thee remainder in batches of about 200 at a time (starting with the most heavily-used), and put them into my a final sandbox, testing them for a week until I have list where Reflinks has consistently failed to get any titles.
  8. Take that final list, add it to my AWB setup, and run that on my articles-with-untagged-bare URLs from the latest database dump.
The lists made in step 6 should also be used as the basis for tests of Citation bot. There are some sites which it will never fill, and we should devise some way of tackling those.
As to which sites are most likely to have untagged refs, I know that already: Twitter is by far the most common. New bare links to Twitter are added at a rate of 20–50 per day. TweetCiteBot (run by @TheSandDoctor) can fix nearly all of them, but that bot runs intermittently, so there is usually a big backlog.
Next in line are reuters.com, cbc.ca, dsocogs.com, LA Times, Legacy.com, goal.com, mlb.com, theglobeandmail.com, and the sports-reference.com set of sites. Each has a backlog of hundreds of pages, with several new entries each day. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:28, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Railway stations in countryname opened or closed in YYYY category header

This one doesn't have the resolve category redirect applied and it is near impossible to work out how to insert it correctly. Are you able to insert it? Timrollpickering (talk) 11:21, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Timrollpickering, and happy new year!
I probably can fix that ... but first, can you tell me which categories are causing trouble? BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:02, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Category:1841 establishments in Austria is one of the populated redirects. Timrollpickering (talk) 15:55, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the pointer, @Timrollpickering. I am currently head-down in responding to a by-election GA review, and won't get to work on this category issue until tomorrow.
If I haven't gotten back to you by Monday, please gimme a poke. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:25, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
A poke. Timrollpickering (talk) 14:23, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the poke, @Timrollpickering. The GA was passed, but it was lotta work.
I think that these two edits[4][5] have fixed the redirects for the year and decade categories respectively.
If anything blows up, please holler. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mark83 -- Mark83 (talk) 12:41, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year, @Mark83!
Thanks very much doing that review. I was a little concerned that that the GA review might be undertaken by someone unfamiliar with STV elections and multi-party politics, which can lead to misunderstanding. But since you are from up the road, it should all be familiar to you.
My only comment at the outset is that the article is unusual for a GA in two respects:
  1. not many Irish politics topics are nominated for GA
  2. most GAs seem to be the product of a push by one editor, but this one was a collaboration between about 5 of us. I think that the result is remarkably coherent and NPOV, but see what you make of it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:24, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:2021 Dublin Bay South by-election for issues which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mark83 -- Mark83 (talk) 14:21, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Mark83
I am on it now. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:26, 1 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Just a quick note to thank you for such a prompt, through and methodical reply to my comments. I haven’t made any comments as I want to avoid edit conflicts that would slow you down. In the meantime I just want to reassure you that once I’ve had another look I think there will be nothing that will prevent the article being promoted today. There are a couple of things that I have a few comments on, but these are my opinions/preferences and therefore are nothing to do with whether it’s a GA or not. You can consider them (or not) at a later stage. Mark83 (talk) 09:38, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

*thorough. Mark83 (talk) 09:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Many thanks, @Mark83. It was a pleasure to respond to such a thorough and reasonable review. Nothing overlooked, but no grandstanding or point-scoring. Very fine work by you.
    I have now completed my responses for today, so over to you. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:16, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
    • Just getting ahead of the bot notification (hopefully), I have passed the nomination. Congratulations. Thanks again for your time and effort on this, it's been a pleasure to work with you. Mark83 (talk) 12:39, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:2021 Dublin Bay South by-election for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Mark83 -- Mark83 (talk) 12:41, 2 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Administrators' newsletter – January 2022

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2021).

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reFill

Hello BrownHairedGirl, wondering if you would know how to tackle this result from reFill. The title (in Dutch) gives information about the cookies policy of the website. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 12:40, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for looking into this, but there are more like that (unfortunately) Lotje (talk) 13:30, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Lotje
reFill often churns out crap, and needs to be checked very carefully before saving. I have reverted[6] that example. The ref will need to be filled manually. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:31, 4 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Not-edit-related, just a ZOMG and Thank You

I was checking an edit on a troublesome page (Country) and my mouse passed over your link... over 2 MILLION edits. *blink**roll mouse back to check again*"Ayup, over 2 million!"*checks a 3rd time*

Wow.

TY for all the work. Even using all the tools, that is a *LOT* of edits. Well done.Shajure (talk) 20:23, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Shajure. It's an embarrassingly high number. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:35, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Well. Each of us has exactly the same number of hours in every day. Some (meeeeee) spend a ridiculous number of those hours hunting up funny memes, jokes, puns, random pictures. Maybe that is frivolous. But. I have had random people I didn't know at all send me a note saying more-or-less "thanks for making me smile, I needed it". This project is painfully huge, painful in general, and I believe one of the most important "things" on the Internet. So... I hope it is only a tiny embarrass. *hat-tip*Shajure (talk) 22:27, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Physics

I really liked your page and thought to say thank you for your contribution. I like your humour. I recently got interested in physics and pure mathematics. May be do you want to guide me in a certain direction 84.241.197.23 (talk) 01:55, 6 January 2022 (UTC)4337554bu@gmail.com[reply]

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Identification of articles with bare URLs

I just noticed your activities back in May 2021 adding tons of articles to the cleanup queue for bare URLs, and that you had made a script and everything. Thank you for your attention to detail and your programming work and caring that Wikipedia remains a reliable and verifiable source of information. You are awesome. -- Beland (talk) 08:40, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, @Beland! That's very kind.
My work on bare URLs has moved on a lot since May. After objections, I gave up tagging all bare URLs, and in July I began feeding all bare URLs to Citation bot. Since then, about 700,000 pages have been processed by the bot at my request.
There are some bare URLs which Citation bot can never fill, and on any one pass it may not fix a URL that it could fix on another pass. But even so this has roughly halved the number of articles which have one or more bare URL refs from ~600,000 to ~300,000.
Now I continue feeding Citation bot, building lists using scans of the twice-monthly WP:Database downloads. I have also developed some tools to inline tag bare URL refs which cannot be filled by WP:Reflinks, because there are many websites where that widely-used tool can never find a title, but since Reflinks doesn't support {{Bare URL inline}} I don't tag links which it might be able to fill.
So we are making good progress, but there is still a log way to go. Each database download shows that about 300 articles now have bare URLs when they had no bare URLs in the last download. So we have to work hard just to stand still. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:42, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Take a Heineken!

16 years, over 2 million edits, and still unstoppable! When you play the Game of Thrones, you win or you die 20:33, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, @Agnimandur! BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:32, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome :) Editors like you are what make Wikipedia so great! The dedication to edit continuously for a time period nearly equal to my entire life is truly incredible. Agnimandur 23:56, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:Cat more if exists/core

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Nomination for deletion of Template:Category pair/core

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Establishing common name

Good morning! I have seen you once involved in a methodological discussion to establish what the common name of a subject should be. You were telling another editor that he could not just use the number of hits in google as a criterion because of the large number of duplicates, and you knew a better method. Do you know if there is any help page or essay about this?

The specific discussion in which this plays a role is Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2022_January_7#Category:Gottfried_Leibniz. Marcocapelle (talk) 10:07, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Marcocapelle, and happy new year!
I have been involved in a lot of such discussions at WP:RM, trying to determine whether there is a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Sadly there are a lot of very poor uses of Google, and widespread misunderstandings of policy.
The guidance at WP:Search engine test is verbose, but for a good reason: doing this right is complicated. The two key points I commend are:
  1. Use a search which concentrates reliable sources. Google web search picks up blogs and social media and other unreliable sources. So don't do that: use Gbooks, Gnewss, GScholar or JSTOR.
  2. With any Google search, do not use the hit count displayed on the first page. It usually exaggerates by at least one order of magnitude, and more likely two orders. Instead, go to the last page of the search results, where you will a real total. See WP:Search engine test#Interpreting_results.
Hope that helps. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:32, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

16 Years on Wikipedia!

Happy First Edit Day, BrownHairedGirl, from the Wikipedia Birthday Committee! Have a great day! Megan B.... It’s all coming to me till the end of time 13:28, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, @Synoman Barris!
Sixteen years today. Gulp. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:31, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Nepalese film remakes has been nominated for discussion

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Happy First Edit Day!

Thanks again

Thank you for tagging all the bare URLs with "Bare URL Inline". I was recently able to fill in about 75% of the refs with the template transcluded. I even won a barnstar for my hard work. A significant amount of the links were dead, so I used Wayback to place an archived url as they have the biggest and oldest database. The ones I did not fill were either PDF or JPEG files, or Cloudflared sites. Some were sites like Twitter, where you said I should leave it for the Sand Doctor's bot. Some sites had bugs with the title, so I will work on fixing those. And some links were perma dead with no backup on Wayback, like some of the links on Mr Yipadee.

Keep on tagging the bare refs, and congrats on 16 years of consistent editing! You're one of my biggest "role models" and heros. Rlink2 (talk) 23:40, 10 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Holy Moly, @Batman! You have your afterburners on.
I wasn't sure what that 75% was a percentage of, so I went to look at Category:Articles with bare URLs for citations. A few days ago, it had just over 39,000 pages, but now it has just over 17,091.
My current Citation bot jobs overlap with that set, but not heavily. So as far as I can see, in just a few days your good efforts have filled all the tagged bare URLs on about 20,000 pages. That is truly wonderful progress, and a massive boost to cleaning up the big backlog of bare URLs.
To give you some idea of the numbers: in the 20220101 database dump, there were 252,226 articles with untagged, non-PDF bare URLs, and 33,794 articles with inline-tagged bare URLs. The two sets overlap (because some pages had both tagged and untagged bare URLs), so the combined total of 286,020 articles included some duplicates. The total of unique pages was 272,928. So in just a few days, you have cleared over 7% of the total backlog. Wow!
I have long found that many of the bare URLs were in fact dead, and it is really wonderful that your tools are able to archive those. I can't say strongly enough what a big leap you have made. That barnstar is thoroughly well-deserved.
How do feel about taking this further, and setting your tools to tackle batches of untagged bare URLs? If you are interested, I have lists which I would be very happy to share with you. We could start with a set of I think about 50,000 bare URLs which have recently been analysed by Citation bot, but not filled.
Again, congratulations! And many many thanks for your kind words. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:26, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you. Yes, I will be continuing with my work with Bare URLs. I would like a list with the articles with the Bare URLs, do send them to me. Rlink2 (talk) 17:58, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Citer Tool

Hi, I want to recommend the tool citer https://citer.toolforge.org/ to create cite templates from bare urls, doi, isbn, pmid, oclc. Hope that helps. Grimes2 (talk) 20:44, 11 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:GaelicGamesByYear

Template:GaelicGamesByYear has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:52, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, thanks for putting up with these notifications as a group of us works to tidy up unused template pages. I know that you do a lot of great work in Category space, organizing and templating and otherwise gnoming away to keep the space working well. If we nominate something in error, please come on over and set us straight; I, for one, will be nice about it. – Jonesey95 (talk) 21:43, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

To interview you for a newspaper story

Hello BHG,

I'm writing this message as a fishing expedition, really. I am looking for a Wikipedia editor to interview for a newspaper story. I am a journalist in Nairobi, Kenya, and I am writing an article for Wikipedia Day this Saturday.

I've seen you edit a couple of pages relating to Kenyan personalities like Charles Njonjo, Richard Leakey, Daniel arap Moi, etc. Could you please spare some time to talk about editing Wikipedia? We can do the interview on email or WhatsApp?

My job address is eondieki@ke.nationmedia.com and my private address is ondiekielvis@gmail.com .

Thank you. Ondiekielvis (talk) 09:08, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Problem edit

Hello, just in case this is a general problem - in this edit the closing square bracket was left in the URL. Keith D (talk) 19:46, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, @Keith D. I'm onto it. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:48, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Keith D: update. These errors were all fixed in these 1,916 edits.
Thanks again for alerting me to this glitch. It occurred when I expanded the range of articles being fixed, and stoopidly failed to re-check my regex. I have now update my AWB module to prevent both this and the leading-zero-in-date issue. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:27, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Another problem

Hello again, another problem, which is much more widespread, is this edit which adds a leading zero to the |archive-date= and causes "CS1 errors: dates" messages. Keith D (talk) 20:08, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again, @Keith D. I will fix that too. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 20:21, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Keith D: there were actually only 8 of these. I fixed your example first.[7] Then I set WB to work overnight to scan my last 10,000 edits for other instances, and today I fixed the remaining 7 in these 7 edits.
Thanks again for bringing this to my attention. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
There could have been more as I ran though the new date errors last night, to get the count down below yesterdays start figure. Will probably have got some from your script. Keith D (talk) 16:38, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Keith D: thanks for any that you caught and fixed. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:00, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election

On 14 January 2022, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that at the 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election, voters were asked to bring their own pen or pencil? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/2021 Dublin Bay South by-election. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, 2021 Dublin Bay South by-election), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

valereee (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to identify a senior Dublin police officer

Can anybody help me identify a long-dead senior Dublin police officer who was probably born in 1910 to 1920 and who died relatively young? I have a surname. I'd like to know more about this man, his record, illness, politucs etc. Hisnibs007@gmail.com 2A00:23C7:9081:5701:E5A8:DA83:630C:4F29 (talk) 07:14, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, I can't help. And I don't know why you are asking me. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:56, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Willie Mitchell (ice hockey)

I think you missed this sneaky piece of vandalism, just wanted to bring it to your attention [8] :) already removed it, no need to worry xRENEGADEx (talk | contribs) 09:13, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A Dobos torte for you!

7&6=thirteen () has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it.


To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

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Please take a look at Southend West By-Election, being "ruled" by Czello etc not adding, just being partisan. We need to know about candidates.

Please take a look at Southend West By-Election, being "ruled" by Czello etc not adding, just being partisan. We need to know about candidates. Parilla1954 (talk) 15:46, 15 January 2022 (UTC) soz. Not adding not talking, his usual MO judging by history. Assuming you are No2 editor, then not just narrowly elections coverage, and less likely to be biased IMHO. Parilla1954 (talk) 15:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Parilla1954: link, please. And diffs would help too. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:47, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

<ref>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Southend_West_by-election</ref> Graham Moore represents the English Constitution Party, which fielded a candidate for the first time.[23] Critical of Anna Firth not being a local, working-class alternative to murdered David Amess. He describes something lacking from today's politicians, jobsworths going through the motions of democracy. Instead of Leaders, standing up for the ordinary voter, and ensuring rights are protected in England. The ECP prefers 'full english' Independence, over rival English Democrats, who prefer Devolution only. Ex-Conservative Mayor, John Lamb was critical of him, in the Southend Echo, calling him a "load of rubbish". However, John Lamb has been similarly critical to many rivals to fellow conservative Anna Firth. The new party has a website[24] and Graham Moore has a DaddyDragon channel on YouTube. ...Just UNDO everything... I added websites for new party, which has no article page yet. Logical thing would be to take "They have a webiste{Ref}", and just add it to Refs. But everything just rolled back. There is a long History file, he should be removed from this page, as too bossy. He deleted a press covered candidate pre-nominations, and many others, only doing minor mods, and not adding any detailed work. I would look across elections, he's in them all, removing people all over.Parilla1954 (talk) 15:56, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Parilla1954: I am going to be blunt. You have charged into 2022 Southend West by-election like a bull in a china shop, showing no understanding of encyclopedic content, style or tone.
The problems with your edits include:
@Czello has acted quite correctly by reverting you, as has Wgullyn. I will now revert your latest edits to that article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@BrownHairedGirl: You should be aware that this user is almost certainly a sock of User:BillCaxton. Pinging @NinjaRobotPirate: who was involved with this editor before, and blocked KingJames80pc (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Hoping this user can be blocked outright per WP:QUACK, if not I'll file an SPI. — Czello 16:11, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank, @Czello. I was assuming that @Parilla1954 was displaying a large surplus of enthusiasm over experience of Wikipedia policies and guidelines, and that they needed help. But if they are just a sockpuppet of a blocked menace, then a prompt block is in order.
I suggest you file that SPI. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 16:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Also pinging @ToBeFree: who has been helpful on this case. — Czello 16:15, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks BrownHairedGirl and Czello; sorry to see you having had to deal with this person. 😐 Yeah, filing an SPI is usually the best idea; one can still link to the SPI afterwards. Twinkle's "ARV->Sockpuppeteer" menu makes it relatively comfortable to create one. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Help

Can you please solve the on List of active Indian military aircraft 's reference no 13 I ame Shears (talk) 07:50, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@I ame shears: Done.[9] BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:14, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Alternate logos has been nominated for deletion

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Template:Country by time category navigation has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 14:12, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination for deletion of Template:DisestcatCountry/old

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Template:Foo–Bar relations category/parentcountry has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 14:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Retail companies (dis)established in decade cat/core

Hey, it seems you didn't connect Template:Retail companies (dis)established in decade cat/core to Template:Retail companies (dis)established in decade cat. Is this still planned? Gonnym (talk) 14:39, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ambiguous categories

Do you think you should run User:BrownHairedGirl/Non-disambiguation categories with eponymous disambiguation page in article space again to look for new cases as the last time it was run was June 2020. Crouch, Swale (talk) 17:20, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A tag has been placed on Category:Southeast Missouri State Redhawks women's basketball navigational boxes indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

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Archived copy

Archived copy is a bad reference title. Whatever out of date editing tools you and many other editors are using continues to do this anyway adding many more errors to articles, like this editdiff. Please manually fix the reference titles if you are going to continue to use broken editing tools. I have fixed[10] the error in this case. -- 109.76.204.243 (talk) 16:48, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]