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I rewrote some of the words in Gryazovets—Vyborg gas pipeline so that it isn't a copyright violation. ☺ Coppertwig (talk) 01:08, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks :-)

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Recent edit at Nabucco

Are you sure this edit is neutral? The wording "Preempting gas supplies for possible use for Nabucco pipeline is another way of preventing the project from successful completion" seems bad — imagine if someone inserted "another way of preventing the project from completion is to make claims about environmental impact" to Nord Stream. I'm sure that would be reverted on neutrality grounds. Recently an agenda-based account (User:Gazpr) made some pretty outrageous edits in energy articles. Although most of your edits are good, I have a slight problem with some of your edits as well. Please remember to be neutral as possible. Offliner (talk) 22:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Well, I made the edit based on many articles, sort of an analysis. I do believe this is a big part of Russian energy politics vis-a-vis Europe and the West, as much as getting or White Stream work is energy politics of the West vis-a-vis Russia, or rather dependence on Russia, but I do agree that it might have sounded a bit biased. I did make some corrections. Do you mind taking a look? Tuscumbia 14:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

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2009 Espoo shopping mall shooting

Hi Tuscumbia,
This article has IMHO gone downhill real quick. I was working on it before midnight (local) and it is now ≈4:20 AM. I have never been so pissed. I mean editors come in and arbritrarily delete whole paragraphs without any discussion. Is that the way it's supposed to work here? I dont think so! Too many 'cooks'! You may find more useable (deleted) material in Espoo. There is a now lot of redundant material in the 'Suspect' section since someone merged stuff from the deleted Shkupolli article. All yours now, I'm gonna get pissed, or try to, as I said I am already 'pissed' off! Hope you have a better New Year than I have had! '--220.101.28.25 (talk) 17:22, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi there! You're right about the current event article being edited real quick but it doesn't mean it's going downhill. That's what Wikipedia is all about - editing based on sources. Whatever I added was sourced material from primary news agencies. However I did not move or delete any sections or whole paragraphs as you claim. I only added a new section on Allegations and sourced material to the Suspect section. So, no reason to get pissed off. I am not pissed off at those who edited my edits a minute after. Happy New Year and cheer up! After all, we're all glad to be alive and smaller disappointments online should not ruin your holidays. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

NO mate, I didn't mean YOU!. I was cool with you. NO PROBLEM AT ALL. It was other people who just appeared out of nowhere, and IMHO stuffed it up (then, it's a lot better, now 2+ hours later) I mean one 'guy' swanned in and all he did was change Suspect heading to Pepetrator, which is very POV. Another 'guy' pulls up, deletes a whole para as 'redundant' (didn't agree) and then goes away. I mean if it's someone with thousands of edits to their credit, but not so here. VERY frustrating. AND I am VERY tired. Supposed to go somewhere tomorrow morning too, (in <≈5 hours!) only told at short notice yesterday, blah blah, whinge whinge, yada yada. I am on the other side of the world from you, probably. The Sun IS coming up, now!(and those damned noisy birds are starting up! Cna't win) NO, no problem with you at all! Oh, the shooting was reported on 5 AM news here in Sydney, nothing new to report but. Happy New Year, (bah, humbug) suggest you don't spend it over the keyboard like I did! --220.101.28.25 (talk) 18:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks ...

for your kind note. Getting there! Still some more to go, and may take me a day or two, but at least now I think we have the main information in it. Tx again.--Epeefleche (talk) 14:18, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Nice work starting the mosque page.--Epeefleche (talk) 00:29, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

You may be interested in Bryant Neal Vinas as well ... taking a cue from you, I also started the related mosque page (a bit easier, as there were two notable connections there).--Epeefleche (talk) 16:19, 26 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a mil. I've never heard of this guy though. I'll make a few minor grammar related edits to that article. Great job with the mosque page :) Tuscumbia (talk) 20:54, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

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You're welcome

Happy to be of help. :-) --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 19:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Grazie! :-) Tuscumbia (talk) 19:19, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

New section

Hello, can you please check this out [1]?--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 15:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Marshall. I replied. Tuscumbia (talk) 16:27, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

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Reversion of edits

Hi Tuscumbia. You reverted my edit to the 2010 Explosion on Deepwater Horizon drilling rig when you made the next edit to the article. Some of the spelling and grammar mistakes I fixed are still in the article now; please be careful so that you don't undo edits by others in the process of making your own. Thanks, - Gump Stump (talk) 20:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Gump Stump. Sorry about that. I must have overlooked them. I'll review and incorporate your changes. Thanks for fixing errors. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:19, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

That's okay, I just redid the edits, along with some more small cleanup. Cheers - Gump Stump (talk) 21:22, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I just saw that. Thanks a mil. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:23, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

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There is no vandalism. The pages I provided sources for are on Azerbaijani regions which you unsuccessfully try to rename with your nationalistic statements. I think you need to stop your vandalism and assume good faith. Tuscumbia (talk) 19:51, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

You insert data on the population of regions according to the census of the country, which has no control over this territory and delete my neutral authoritative reference a third country. Moreover, be cautious in future statements such as "puppet government", "nationalistic statements" because of you I no longer expect the assumption of good intentions. --Ліонкінг (talk) 20:00, 28 April 2010 (UTC)

Azeri census

Do you know when that census data was taken? --Golbez (talk) 13:48, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I do Golbez. Here it is from Statistical committee of Azerbaijan: [2]. Some numbers are higher than those in the "undated" source, some are lower. I think they add the movement of new and old settlers since 1992-93 to the number of last recorded by Azerbaijan before 1993. Remember that Azerbaijani government considers all the old inhabitants its citizens. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:59, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

But... how did they count people in an area they aren't allowed in to? This obviously can't be considered a 2009 census of the areas under Karabakhi control. --Golbez (talk) 14:05, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

They did not count themselves. Apparenly they use the data from Ministry of National Security which tracks the movement in and out of those regions. They even protested against a mass settlement of incoming ethnic Armenians in Lachin rayon a few years ago. Anyway, they probably add that data to the official count of Azerbaijani census last recorded before the regions were occupied. We can indicate that detail if you like but the data has to come from a legitimate source, that is governmental agency which oversees the population statistics of its country.Tuscumbia (talk) 14:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that needs to be brought to some form of RFC, if we can use data for a region that the data could not have reasonably be collected from. --Golbez (talk) 14:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

I guess that would work. I understand the data which you tagged as "undated" was also on that website and might still be there with the date (I'll have to research) since it was referred to in on of the articles I saw.Tuscumbia (talk) 14:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

If they did not count, then it is not a census..., you are just admiting the info you have added is not accurate, since a census is an actual counting. It's futile to parallel some statistic being passed as a census to counter an actual census.

Armenian citizens are not allowed into Azerbaijan for private visits, only Armenians citizens invited to attend international events are exempted.

Armenian citizens are not allowed into Azerbaijan for private visits, only Armenians citizens invited to attend international events such as sport tournaments and conferences are exempted. Foreign citizens, except those with diplomatic passports, having stamps of the breakaway Nagorno-Karabakh Republic on their passports are also not allowed to enter Azerbaijan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.214.144.172 (talk) 23:14, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern but this is just your opinion. Armenian citizens are allowed into Azerbaijan. Moreover, the current residents living in Karabakh are still formally considered citizens of Azerbaijan by the government of Azerbaijan. Armenian athletes, journalists, politicians, religious leaders, students have repeatedly visited Azerbaijan and do so every year. Whether they are met with suspicion at the airport customs counter or not is a different matter. You do have to be suspicious about citizens of the country which is at war with yours. Tuscumbia (talk) 12:56, 5 May 2010 (UTC)

"Lachin is outside NKR"

No, it's not. After years of discussion here, it seems clear that the NKR has annexed the non-NKAO rayons it occupies. It takes the line of control as a border, rather than just a, well, line of control. Lachin, et.al. are all part of the NKR, and have been distributed into provinces of it. --Golbez (talk) 13:52, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Lachin as well as any de-jure regions are intergral parts of Azerbaijan. Lachin and other 6 regions outside of former NKAO are actually twice are disputable in the context of "NKR" because they had not been claimed by Karabakh Armenians in their petitions. These are territories occupied by force. You don't see an Azerbaijani divisions template in Artsvashen article of Armenia, do you now? Tuscumbia (talk) 13:59, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, but if you're going to keep the {NKR} on the former NKAO, then that kind of defeats your argument. The NKR is not the NKAO. And actually, yes, they have been claimed by the NKR, as seen in their own maps, census data, etc. As for Artsvashen, I think that is considered simply occupied rather than annexed, whereas Lachin appears to have been explicitly annexed by the NKR. (What's this about "petititons"? We aren't in 1991 anymore. The Line of Control is a de facto border) Finally, if the NKR didn't claim these areas, then why did they divide them into provinces? Qashatagh, etc? I mean, look at the map on there! Wikipedia's stance seems to be that the NKR has annexed the southwestern corner of Azerbaijan, and is not merely occupying it militarily. (Trivial difference? Hardly. The US occupied Iraq, but it never annexed it) --Golbez (talk) 14:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

US doesn't occupy or annex Iraq. It's fighting a war on terror and is assisted by Iraqi troops. This is a completely different matter and has no place in the argument. It doesn't matter if the occupied territories are claimed by "NKR" or not. Azerbaijan can claim Yerevan but the article about Yerevan does not include the Azerbaijani divisions template. I have not removed the "NKR" templates from former NKAO cities/districts because they are subject to discussion and consensus. Regions outside of former NKAO are not, regardless if they were divided into "NKR" districts or not. Artsvashen is as much occupied as Nagorno-Karabakh and 7 other regions of Azerbaijan. You simply fail to see the 100% similarity.Tuscumbia (talk) 14:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure anyone would deny Iraq was occupied by the US prior to local rule being re-established. I used the past-tense for a reason. And you are quite incorrect to say areas outside the former NKAO are not subject to discussion and consensus; everything on Wikipedia is subject to discussion and consensus, and the consensus is that the NKR consists of the entire southwestern corner of Azerbaijan, not just the NKAO. If you disagree with this, there are several other articles you should start a crusade on, not to mention getting all of the maps changed. Also, since the NKR doesn't fully control the former NKAO (though claims it), this distinction makes even less sense. --Golbez (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Simple to understand. The sources from the international community define these territories as a part of Azerbaijan. Their proper names, i.e. ones given by the de-jure governing Azerbaijan are to what the international community calls them. Any attempt to rename them based on Armenian sources is an academic violation at the very least. Simple as that. Tuscumbia (talk) 18:59, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

How did this suddenly become about names? It was about whether or not Lachin is part of the NKR. --Golbez (talk) 20:51, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Golbez, what exactly are you trying to clarify? Tuscumbia (talk) 21:26, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Your argument was that Lachin is occupied, rather than annexed, by the NKR, but that the former NKAO had a separate status. I'm saying, consensus here is that the whole of the area behind the Line of Control is part of the NKR, they appear to have annexed it and divided it among provinces. The former NKAO no longer has any special meaning when dealing with the NKR. --Golbez (talk) 23:42, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, which makes it twice as illegitimate. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:03, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

... That doesn't mean any sense, and appears to have nothing to do with what I wrote. --Golbez (talk) 18:36, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

What makes sense is that the territory of Azerbaijan, currently under control of "NKR" is not legitimate, no matter if it's outside of anything. The NKR entity is not a recognized state to be able to "annex" anything, therefore the present status of Lachin is as much under illegitimate control as the rest of the occupied territories. Simple as that. Tuscumbia (talk) 12:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Then is it your position that the former NKAO is also just as much not a part of the NKR as Lachin is? Just seeking a clarification here, since your earlier statements seemed to say that the NKAO was part of the NKR, but Lachin was not. --Golbez (talk) 14:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Golbez, thanks for trying to clarify. Not many people do it. In a nutshell, yes, the former NKAO is as much not part of "NKR" entity as Lachin is. What I was referring to in earlier statements was from peculiarities of the conflict. While I do understand the whole notion of self-determination by the Armenian authorities in former NKAO, (even though it was not done on legal grounds), the status of former NKAO as claimed in the beginning of the conflict has been a subject to negotiations. The rest of the territories outside of former NKAO have been directly occupied. So, while I understand the status of NKAO needs to be discussed by both countries, the rest of the occupied territories fall under a different category. Tuscumbia (talk) 14:22, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Fair enough; now that you've explained, I can understand your position and respect it. It's a valid position, though not one I agree with completely. A few years ago, yes, but I brought the issue up on various talk pages and since then my mind has changed, seeing as how the NKR government appears to be treating the other occupied rayons as part of its country, rather than simply occupied territory. But as you said, the referendum was carried out only in the NKAO, so the legitimacy of the other rayons not being part of Azerbaijan is indeed less than that of the NKAO. I just wish the politicians involved would stow their egos and find a solution, not just for the thousands of innocent people involved, but also for Wikipedia's sanity. (though I doubt it will ever stem the flow of geniuses who think [3] is a valid edit. If I appear to have an Armenian bias, it is for two reasons: One, I have an admitted slight bias towards the people of NK as I have a thing for self-determination, call it a naive American trait, but otherwise I think I'm very neutral on the issue; secondly, the Armenian vandals aren't nearly as annoying as the Azeri ones. :P) --Golbez (talk) 14:55, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

I have a thing for both self-determination and territorial integrity too and respect the will of people. The problem is that the self-determination in case of NKAO was not done on legal grounds disregarding Soviet and Azerbaijani constitutions and the will of Azerbaijani community of Karabakh. Yes, I dislike vandalism too but as anyone can observe there are a lot more Armenian socks :) Tuscumbia (talk) 15:11, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

That's probably true. And as for the legal grounds, that's one of the fundamental issues, isn't it: Did they have the legal right to secede from the Soviet Union? Of course, to an independent observer like myself, the whole thing seems moot, seeing as how the Soviet Union would have died in several weeks regardless of the NKAO's declaration of independence. (And, of course, if Azerbaijan had allowed it to go on its way, the NKR today would be an independent nation consisting perhaps of only the NKAO, rather than an ongoing two-decade belligerency controlling the entire southwest corner of Azerbaijan) --Golbez (talk) 15:47, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

You're rather misinformed about the legal basis of the conflict, Golbez :) Or rather, underinformed. NKAO Supreme Soviet (which consisted mainly of ethnic Armenians) was denied the petition to be transferred to Armenian SSR both by the Azerbaijan SSR and the Supreme Soviet of USSR in 1988. The referendum for secession was held after most of ethnic Azerbaijani community was expelled from NKAO and after Supreme Soviet of Azerbaijan SSR voted on declaration of independence. Moreover, according to Azerbaiani SSR constitution and that of independent Azerbaijan, the local referendums and their results have to be approved by the Azerbaijani government and the overall referendum in Azerbaijan. In other words, the whole country has to approve or veto the referendum results. The independence of "NKR" was also announced in the beginning of 1992, when Azerbaijan has already proclaimed independence in late 1991 and was independent by January 1, 1992. The independence by NKR holds no legal ground since the Constitution of USSR from 1977 and Amendment on secessions from 1990 (which is always misinterpreted) and the Azerbaijani SSR and independent Azerbaijan constitutions have been disregarded. Tuscumbia (talk) 16:00, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

No, I think I'm well-informed; I know about wanting to be transferred to the Armenian SSR. My comment was about [as I understand it] NK's assertion that, as an autonomous oblast of the Soviet Union, they had the right to secede, whereas the Azeri stance is that they were an autonomous oblast of the Azeri SSR. One step removed that eliminated the legality of secession. I agree with the Azeris on this one. Basically, the Karabakh separatists recognized the legitimacy of Moscow more than Baku. And from what I understand, the NKAO initially preferred to remain within the USSR, regardless of the AzSSR's independence, but when that was no longer viable, went for independence themselves. The Soviets clearly knew what they were doing by setting some of these areas apart, looking at the issues in South Ossetia and Abkhazia as well as NK, but they just as clearly didn't have a way of dealing with the issues as the house of cards fell. Finally, one last note: Enclosing "NKR" in quotes as if it's a figment of someone's imagination (though you aren't consistent with that) is not the path to civil discourse. It's nice to be able to have a discussion on a subject without massive subtext in every mention of said subject. The politicians involved may of course wish to always refer to it as the "so-called", "self-proclaimed" "NKR" at every mention, but as civilians with no dog in this fight, I think the least we can do is be honest in our communications. --Golbez (talk) 16:51, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Not really. NKAO preferred to be annexed to Armenian SSR and the initial calls by Abel Agambejyan (Gorbachev's right hand man) in France in 1987 were exactly that. The initial petitions involved outright annexation including Armenian SSR issuing a proclamation and budget including a part for NKAO as if it was now theirs, however, when the Armenian nationalists saw that Soviet Union will collapse and outright annexation is not going to be justified under the international law, they switched to self-determination principle to create a new state (which actually hosts Armenian army, uses Armenian currency, etc.) Self determination is practised but within the international law, i.e. self-determining state has to comply with the constitution of the governing state it wants to separate from and all international norms. In case of "NKR", we didn't see it. Sorry, I put "NKR" in quotes because it's just my personal preference. And you're right about Soviets. They intentionally created conflict zones to be able to play on ethnic strives. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:05, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Enforcement

Hello. Be aware of this. --Ліонкінг (talk) 19:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for notification. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

User:Tuscumbia, I would suggest you to familirise yourself with the Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2 before asking Ліонкінг to do so [4]. Mind, that this warning was issued and canceled on his page by an Admin. This is an AE you are permanently violating and it shall be dealt with accordingly, if you continue this battleground-behavior. Regards Aregakn (talk) 18:56, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Cancelled? How do you define cancelled? Read one more time. Both of you should read through AA2 before engaging in battleground behavior. Tuscumbia (talk) 19:02, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

You might not understand what I meant, but this is not my problem. Anyway, I can tell you only one thing:":)"

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Shafag-Asiman

Good work, Tuscumbia. Creation of this article was in my 'to do list' and this is really a good news you already done it. Beagel (talk) 21:08, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Beagel. There will probably be more extensive information on this block in the next few months as they start their exploration work. So, I expect your help with completing the article with more data and making it better as you always do :) Tuscumbia (talk) 21:15, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Tahira Tahirova

If you look across wikipedia, Dennis Hopper etc you'll see this is actually standard. You had born 1913 which is misleading as she died in 1991. At least have it as (1913-1991). Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:28, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

It's not really universal since many articles do not follow that format, but I guess it can be kept as in Dennis Hopper article. The way I see it, the point of keeping it short is to avoid repetitive text and redundancy. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

I don't mean to sound arrogant but do you know how many articles I've written? I've started around 1 in 60 of all wikipedia articles so you'd think I have a pretty good idea of what the norm is mate. Trust me birthdates and year next to name in bold is a standard procedure on here. John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan, Alimardan Topchubashov etc. Ask anybody. The infobox is an added touch which is if anything redundant not the intro to the article and the other way around. Veyr much like your work on oilfields and Azerbaijan thought. Keep up the good work which ever format you choose... Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 21:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Doesn't sound arrogant. The thing is that most of the editors review other existing and similar articles and base their new ones on them. So, if one way is the norm, then the rest should be gradually changed as well. The part about misleading text you mentioned can be true though, because just mentioning (born in 1913) for a deceased individual can be indeed misleading in the intro. Thanks for your help.Tuscumbia (talk) 21:48, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

If the birthdates don't exist then it is the norm to write the years (1913-1991) but generally from my experience if the birth dates exist you should most certainly include them in the intro. Yes, the infobox does tend to replicate a lot given in the text but it is meant to be a factual summary, this is why. Keep up the good work, nice to see people working on countries like Azerbaijan. If only our Azerbaijani village articles could be expanded!! Dr. Blofeld ^{White cat} 09:09, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Makes sense. OK, will be indicating the birthdays in the intro. I'll try to expand the village articles. The main problem is that they don't take much information out online. The information is mainly delivered on towns and cities. That's the case with many developing countries. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 13:31, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tuscumbia

Thanks for your work on Valeh Barshadly. I wanted to ask you about the first military unit of the new army. Was the place where it was formed Settlement No. 110? Is Settlement No. 110 and Shikhovo the same place? Is that what the Azerbaijani text means? Buckshot06 (talk) 03:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Buckshot06, No it seems the number of the military unit (location) is 18-110. Perhaps, it's some internal numbering. At least, that's what the source says and it's most likely the division of the 4th army. There are limited number of sources on that. I tried to search for more sources on 18-110. Haven't found any yet. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Ah-hah. It's a Ministry of Defence (Soviet Union) 'Military Unit Number' - I think. A code number that bears no resemblance to any unit title. Every Soviet Armed Forces unit had a five digit code number, in this case probably 18110. I assume you speak Russian?- best place to inquire is with the soldat.ru Ground Forces forum, probably asking for a man named Vladimir Feskov, who literally wrote the book on the Soviet Army during the Cold War. His book does not list any motor rifle regiment of the 4th Army at Shikovo, but I've transferred the details from his book about the regiments of the 295th Motor Rifle Division, which was at Baku or technically 'Baku-1,' to the 4th Army (Soviet Union) page. Buckshot06 (talk) 20:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see what you're saying. I'll inquire there then, maybe they can answer. My guess is that they also had inter-republic numbers too. You did a great job in the 4th army article. Do have the hard copy of his book or is it also available online? And thanks for correcting the 3rd army to 3rd Shock Army. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:47, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I've sent you an e-mail, so once you respond I'll send you the online-accessible version of Mr. Feskov's book. Buckshot06 (talk) 21:54, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Replied. Thanks much. Tuscumbia (talk) 22:01, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Could you please amend Barshadly's dates in office to a consistent set? Azerbaijani Armed Forces and Minister of Defense (Azerbaijan) list only late 1991-early 1992, while his article lists almost a full year. Could you explain the difference (acting? deputy? whatever) in the relevant articles and make them all consistent? Buckshot06 (talk) 22:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Buckshot, you have an eagle eye :) You are absolutely correct. His term lasted until December 1991 (specific date unknown) and he was then appointed Deputy Minister and Chief of Staff. The source that shows the presidential decree actually says president relieved him of his duties as Deputy Minister and Chief of Staff, not Minister. Good catch Buckshot. I corrected it in the article. As far as the difference between acting and deputy goes, deputy is self-explanatory; it's the person next in charge to the minister. Ministers have several deputies (1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc) and when the minister is not in position to work for any reasons (travelling, sick, assassinated, etc), then the deputy temporarily assumes his duties and becomes acting (I wikilinked it to explanation). Sort of what US Vice President would do if President could not work Tuscumbia (talk) 13:38, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Tuscumbia. I well understand what 'deputy' and 'acting' are, but wanted to have it made clear in the articles as to what exactly Bashadly's post was during the period. Can you please check the list of Ministers of Defence at Azerbaijani Armed Forces, which has been missing a citation for a long time, and provide a citation? Also, do you have a list of the Azerbaijani Chief of General Staff after Bashadly? Buckshot06 (talk) 23:11, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

No problem. I provided citations for the Ministers of Defense article and will keep adding sources as they appear online. Yes, Buckshot, here is the list of chiefs of staff [6] for now but it seems to be incomplete date-wise. So, I'm still looking for concrete dates of their terms. Please let me know if you find any as well. This is the list: Silahlı Qüvvələrin Baş Qərargah rəisləri: (Chiefs of Staff)

• 1918-1920 Həbib bəy Səlimov
• 1918-1920 Məmməd bəy Sulkeviç
• 09.1991-05.1992 Polkovnik Şahin Musayev
• 05.1992-10.1992 General-leytenant Valeh Bərşadlı
• 1992-1993 Polkovnik Səfər Əbiyev
• 1993-... Polkovnik Rüfət Əmirov
• ...-... Gen.-may. Nurəddin Sadıqov
• ...- Gen.-polk. Nəcməddin Sadıqov

Hərbi Dəniz Qüvvələrinin komandanları: (Commanders of the Navy)

• 1992-2000 birinci dərəcəli kapitan Rafik Əskərov
• 2000-2003 birinci dərəcəli kapitan Fuad Yusifov
• 2003- vitse-admiral Şahin Sultanov

Although, some sources are a little off. Valeh Barshadly is shown as Chief of Staff from May to October 1992, when he was removed on September 4, 1992 as per another source Presidential Decree. The dates from those times of political turmoil are really hard to track. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:35, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Global Network for the Forecasting of Earthquakes

Hi.Please join debate. And tell your opinion. --Earth Defender (talk) 11:20, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

New section

Can you please take a look at this? Thank you.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 04:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I am an administrator, and I'm quite willing to help arbitrate between you and MarshalBagramyan, who I've had interactions with in the past, if that is helpful. However, reading the discussion, I believe you're in the wrong. Please slow down and consider things before making any hasty edits. Kind regards from New Zealand, Buckshot06 (talk) 09:17, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey Buckshot06, how's it going? Sure, you're more than welcome to help arbitrate. My last edits were not hasty but all sourced and correct. It's obvious why Davo88 removed the text. I'm not in the wrong. Please see here [7]]. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:53, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Arbitration enforcement topic ban (WP:ARBAA2)

This is to inform you that you are topic-banned for three months from pages or edits related to Armenia or Azerbaijan, as explained and detailed in this AE thread.  Sandstein  14:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

coup in Azerbaijan (1992)

You can write an article coup in Azerbaijan (1992). Here is the text describing these events to the Russian version of article Mutalibov. For such events should be detailed description.

После того как 8 мая пала Шуша у здания Верховного Совета сторонники Муталибова организуют митинг с требованием восстановления его на посту президента. 14 мая на сессии Верховного Совета за восстановление Аяза Муталибова в качестве президента проголосовали 219 из 250 присутствующих в зале депутатов (оппозиция отсутствовала). В тот же день первым своим указом восстановленый президент ввёл в Баку чрезвычайное положение и комендантский час, запрещены митинги и демонстрации с 0 часов 15 мая. В ответ на восстановление Муталибова на посту президента страны начался митинг сторонников оппозиции у здания НФА. Утром 15 мая руководство Народного фронта выдвинуло Муталибову ультиматум с требованием добровольно уйта до 15.00 с поста президента. С истечением срока ультиматума оппозиция начала марш к президентской резиденции и вскоре захватила власть в городе. Председатель военной комиссии Народного фронта Азербайджана Фахмин Гаджиев в 18.00 по телевидению объявил, что город, кроме президентского дворца, контролируется силами оппозиции, и продлил срок ультиматума президенту до 20.00.В 19 часов объявляется, что все войска переходят под контроль НФА, а в 21 часа без штурма был занят президентский дворец.

References

• Revolt in Capital of Azerbaijan

The coup d'etat in Azerbaijan (1992) a very significant event, but almost forgotten. You can write it, too. [8] .

Khosrov bey Sultanov

Hello. Recently you added a citation to a book from the "Webster's Quotations, Facts and Phrases" series published by Icon Group International to this article. Unfortunately, Icon Group International is not a reliable source - their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Wikipedia (most entries have [WP] by them to indicate this, see e.g. [9]). I've only removed the reference, not the text it was referencing. I'm removing a lot of similar references as they are circular references; many other editors have also been duped by these sources. Despite giving an appearance of reliability, the name "Webster's" has been public domain since the late 19th century. Another publisher to be wary of as they reuse Wikipedia articles is Alphascript Publishing. Fences&Windows 19:06, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Fences and windows. Got it. I appreciate the note. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Chingiz Ildyrym

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:03, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ogle School of Hair, Skin and Nails

A tag has been placed on Ogle School of Hair, Skin and Nails requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about an organization or company, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for organizations and companies. You may also wish to consider using a Wizard to help you create articles - see the Article Wizard.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag - if no such tag exists then the page is no longer a speedy delete candidate and adding a hangon tag is unnecessary), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 22:16, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Ogle School of Hair, Skin and Nails

HI. At the moment, this is case of WP:UPANDCOMING; even if its ex-pupil gets into the news, I doubt if the school would be notable enough for a standalone article, per WP:NOTINHERITED. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 11:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi John. That's fine. No problem. I'll remove the wikilink tags from the article about individual too. Thanks. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Jamshid Nakhichevanski

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Topic Ban

Hi Stifle. There is still no result for my appeal [10]. Could you please follow up and see if the reduction of the topic ban is granted. Appreciate your help in advance. Tuscumbia (talk) 15:31, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

I've restored it to the live page. Stifle (talk) 15:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Are you sure? I think you mistakenly restored the topic ban to the active, not my appeal. Can you please review? Tuscumbia (talk) 15:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I've restored the appeal. See WP:AE#Result_of_the_appeal_by_Tuscumbia. Stifle (talk) 15:40, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Baconschi

Thanks for the caption correction, and for the article itself, which is a nice start. To answer your questions:

• Teodor is definitely Anatol's son, as confirmed not only by our very well-researched biography of Anatol, but also by a bunch of external sources ([11], [12], [13]).
• I don't have a very strong opinion about the "see also" section, except that I didn't put one in myself for the various ministerial biographies I wrote (Radu Berceanu, Elena Udrea, Ecaterina Andronescu, Cristian Diaconescu, etc). I guess WP:SEEALSO might help: "A reasonable number of relevant links that would be in the body of a hypothetical perfect article are suitable to add to the 'See also' appendix of a less developed one". Now, if we expanded this article even further, would Government of Romania or Foreign relations of Romania ever be linked? I'm not sure they would be, and I think the links to Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Romania) and Boc Cabinets are probably sufficient, but it's your call. - Biruitorul ^Talk 17:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

My source was [14]. Of course, that's a wiki, so it may not be reliable, although if they actually did use Scurtu and Neagoe, it should be pretty good. Anyway, feel free to rework the template as you see fit, at least until one of us accesses a reliable source listing the ministers. - Biruitorul ^Talk 20:56, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

OK, I'll make some edits to the template linking it with new articles I already created. However, the list I from Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Romania) seems to be incomplete as well. For instance, Ion Stoian is missing even though he served as the minister for a very short time while he is in your template. I'll be making additions and corrections. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:16, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Minister of Foreign Affairs of Romania

Lovely! After prime minister, foreign minister is among the most important ministries in Romania (and elsewhere), and you should be proud for having completed this project. - Biruitorul ^Talk 19:12, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you Birutorul. And I appreciate your help! Tuscumbia (talk) 12:52, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

re: Avram Bunaciu

Sorry, I wasn't able to find a date. The few Romanian sources I've found on the web generally confirm what is already written in the article, and I have some doubts about their use as reliable sources, so I decided to leave the article as it is now. You are one of the few people who created Romania-related real articles (as opposed to one-liners) in the last months, so I guess I am the one who has to thank you! Anonimu (talk) 17:23, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks for trying to help. If you do happen to come across the exact death date, please add it to the article. And you're welcome! I'll try to create articles on all Romanian foreign ministers provided that the information is available (up to now, it pretty much has been) and correct inconsistencies in Ministry of Foreign Affairs (Romania). If you could also add Romanian pronunciations to the newly created articles, that would be great. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 17:31, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

I'm not good at that. However User:AdiJapan has a page dedicated to such requests. I'm sure he'll be glad to help if you list your request there.Anonimu (talk) 17:35, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Great! Thank you. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:38, 20 August 2010 (UTC)

Mediation

Good morning. As You're my main opponent it the discussion, please be aware with my mediation request as we have unsolved old discussion and if You Assume good faith make Your agreement. I'll see Your answer next day. Thanks. --Ліонкінг (talk) 17:15, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Here I see that You make contributions. So don't ignore me request, please give the answer. --Ліонкінг (talk) 16:42, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Read a few sections above and make your request in about two months if you like. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:00, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, can any other representative of Your views change You in this mediation? As You know this problem was made in very unhonest way by other user, so as You I also want to hear a final consensus, because conflicts can't be decided in the way which used NovaSkola. --Ліонкінг (talk) 17:12, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I'm not really understanding what you're trying to say but if you are implying someone should participate in the mediation, it's your call and your request and you should contact whoever you think should participate in the mediation. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:16, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Ok, I'll try to explain. There were two points of view. Those who wanted to save the name Martuni (I and MarshallBagramyan) and those who wanted to move the name (Brandmeister, You and NovaSkola). Also there were a neutral user Golbez. In the discussion tooked part only three users: I, You and Golbez. Other users make only one edit in the discussion page. But it is not a secret that You have Your friends who support Your POV and maybe they can represent Your POV in mediation. So to make the discussion honest and according to the WP:AGF I want to see a participant of other views than I have. Or if You agree with my POV we can stop this discussion. --Ліонкінг (talk) 17:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I know what happened on the talk page of that article. I am not understanding what you're trying to get out of me. I told you to look above to see a note about topic ban for 3 months. You looked, saw and understood and now it's time for you to stay off my talk page and find the people you want to get involved in your mediation request. I don't represent anyone and nobody represents me. False allegations may result in being reported. If you are eager to discuss specifically with me, you're more than welcome to make a request in two months as I already mentioned above. Tuscumbia (talk) 17:30, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

Request for mediation of Martuni (town)

A request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to Martuni (town) was recently filed. As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. The process of mediation is entirely voluntary and focuses exclusively on the content issues over which there is disagreement. Please review the request page and the guide to mediation requests and then indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you would agree to participate. Discussion relating to the mediation request welcome at the case talk page.

Thank you, AGK 23:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

AGK, I was placed on a topic ban for three months, therefore can't really participate in the discussion for another month. If my arguments are welcomed, this would have to wait until the end of October. Otherwise, please involve other editors who had participated in previous discussions. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Nobody pointed this out at the request for mediation. I'll reject the request, and invite the filing party to re-file it once your topic ban expires (if there remain unresolved content issues). Regards, AGK 11:42, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, I had let the filing party know about the ban on my talk page. Thanks AGK. Tuscumbia (talk) 12:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

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backing user atabay

Do you think or imagine you are me? if no, never made such kind [15] reverts and for the first read WP:CIVIL. It may halps... Andranikpasha (talk) 11:54, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I have a hard time understanding your language. Whatever it is that you're saying has nothing to do with incivility. Please keep your discussion on Talk:March Days. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:23, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

I'll try to be more primitive! Just do not revert people when they doubt anything. Here you represent yourself, not anyone else who doubts anything. You can't decide if I doubt anything or not. Andranikpasha (talk) 13:59, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

You had a doubt and received a proper explanation from another user. I represent not myself, but my opinion and it was reflected on Talk:March Days. You can keep doubting the addition all you want, but it doesn't mean it has to prevent the sourced addition of text. Thank you. Tuscumbia (talk) 14:12, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

First of all, I don't consider the explanation as proper, and I'm discussing it (you may have another view, but I keep my opinion, I explained it). And then, I didn't prevent any additions of sources (even misquotings by atabay). I just added a tag that the source is misquoted and my actions are according to Wiki rules. That's all! Andranikpasha (talk) 15:45, 27 October 2010 (UTC)

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For you

		The Azerbaijani Barnstar of National Merit
		For all of your excellent articles on Azerbaijan, I award you this Azerbaijan Barnstar of National Merit. Wear it with pride. -Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 15:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
		this WikiAward was given to Tuscumbia by Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. on 15:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Can't believe you haven't gotten one of these yet. --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:22, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

My pleasure. Keep up the good work! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 15:58, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the compliment... On another note, good that you are working on Norwegian related articles.. You see, I'm Norwegian ;) and most of Norway-related articles are in bad shape, so again, thanks for your contributions. Again thanks and have a good time. --TIAYN (talk) 17:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

First I want to know one thing; why are you so interested in Norway and Azerbajian... Is it because both are oil rich nations?? If i'm intruding sorry, Its just that i've never met another none-Norwegian here who is interested in either of these countries!... On second note, are there any specific platform images I should upload?? + I doubt there are any free images there; Norway is very strict when it comes to material and possible copyright status, why? I don't know. --TIAYN (talk) 19:35, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Good question but no specific reason :) Both countries are oil rich but being a long time oil and gas exporter, Norway didn't have too many articles on its fields or they were underdeveloped in Wikipedia, such as Oseberg oil field that I expanded. That's why I created several articles on Norwegian oil and gas fields. However, there is a lot to be done. There are still many fields and terminals which need articles in Wikipedia. One can go nuts just by looking at the list in NPD :) No, I think any good pictures from public domains or maybe with permission from NPD, can be uploaded. They would just make the articles better. Too bad I don't speak Norwegian, there are lots of sources that are available in Norwegian only. :) Tuscumbia (talk) 20:09, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

I must admit; I have no clue what an NDP is!... Second, I didn't find any public domains photos.. Third, I could probably help you on some articles which are lacking in info, that is if you want of course. --TIAYN (talk) 18:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

NDP is OLJEDIREKTORATET and stands for Norwegian Petroleum Directorate (website: http://www.npd.no/engelsk/cwi/pbl/en/index.htm). It provides information about all Norwegian oil and gas fields, i.e. abandoned, active, prospects, etc. Do you think maybe you can download the photos from flickr, if there are any on the Norwegian fields? But of course, if you have time :) Tuscumbia (talk) 18:54, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Its awkward to admit but you know much more about Norwegian petroleum and oil industry than i do ;) I should give more attention to the subject, but I am presently working on Soviet-related articles, so it may take some time. About those images of Flickr i can check, but it may take a while seeing that I don't know many of these Flickr uploading criterias.. Second, you can probably upload fair-use images on oil rig/platform pages which are inactive (seeing that there probably exist very few public domain photages of these. Again, I'll check! --TIAYN (talk) 19:46, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

That's OK, and there is still much to learn about Norwegian energy potential. Any help you can provide for improving Norwegian oil and gas articles would be very appreciated. Besides images, maybe you could also help with adding the names of oil fields in Norwegian when you have time.

Soviet history is vast and I'm sure your work there is very appreciated :) Thanks again. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:04, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Just tell me what oil rigs which needs renaming and I'll do it... I can I ask for a favor from you? You see I've been working on the list of leaders of the Soviet Union and nominated it for FL status, a reviewer has said the article is in need of a proper copyedit, in other words, could you help me to copyedit the article?

I haven't had any luck finding NPD-photoes at Flickr... I'll continue looking, but it might take some time! --TIAYN (talk) 20:49, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

You can find the Norwegian articles on my page under Norway. Sure, no problem, I'll help with the List of leaders of the Soviet Union. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:58, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Good; Then we have a deal! :) --TIAYN (talk) 21:01, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your help; I've uploaded the logo's for Bayerngas Norge and Norico. If you need anymore help just tell me! --TIAYN (talk) 22:02, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Perfect! Tusen takk! :) Tuscumbia (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

disruption

Tuscumbia, user Magoteers disrupts everywhere. Looks at this article where he reverts all the time dismissing third party sources: [16]. I think he needs to be reported.  Anastasia Bukhantseva  05:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I took a look. He has been edit-warring and the best board to report him would be Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring Tuscumbia (talk) 16:15, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Bunch of thank yous! At last, he will stop misusing Wikipedia! From the report I take he's another user using other accounts? Was the other user blocked before?  Anastasia Bukhantseva  04:51, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Yes, he was using another account(s) and God knows how many. No, the account I reported had not been blocked. Tuscumbia (talk) 13:23, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Incivility

Mind WP:CIVIL and please avoid turning this into an ethnic battleground. Thank you.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:17, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

There is nothing incivil. It's just funny, really funny. Look who's reporting me. Really... Go back and study your contributions and all socks and IPs reverting to your versions rather than relating me to Quantum666. I am really eager to see the results of the SPI. In fact, I'll request the admins to look as soon as they can. :) Tuscumbia (talk) 20:20, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Also, refrain from false accusations. There was nothing turning the page into ethnic battleground. If there was, please provide evidence. You make false accusations one more time, I'll be forced to report you on appropriate boards. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:25, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppetry case

Your name has been mentioned in connection with a sockpuppetry case. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Quantum666 for evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to cases before editing the evidence page. — HelloAnnyong ^{(say whaaat?!)} 01:28, 14 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks HelloAnnyong. I had already commented on the page. Tuscumbia (talk) 14:47, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

IP, please don't just revert to your version. I think everybody agrees that the text you included is an important part of the war and needs to be included. You just need to re-write the the text because it's more or less poorly written. — Help rewrite. I'll be very grateful. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.141.113.105 (talk) 15:47, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

Help!

Can I ask you for another favour, could help me to copyedit the Andrei Gromyko article?? I would really appreciate some help, and seeing that you helped me on the List of leaders of the Soviet Union article, I would appreciate to receive your help for a second time. --TIAYN (talk) 17:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)

Sure, no problem at all. Tuscumbia (talk) 15:27, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help on the Andrei Gromyko, I really appreciate it. I owe you one! ;) --TIAYN (talk) 17:00, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

No problem at all :) Tuscumbia (talk) 17:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks friend. I really appreciate it. But really you are doing fantastic work on Azerbaijan, especially on politics. Keep it up!♦ Dr. Blofeld 14:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you! Tuscumbia (talk) 15:07, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar! That was really nice of you! --Rosiestep (talk) 05:28, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

• Thanks for the Barnstar for Maiden Tower, which I noticed only today on my User space. My article on Yanar Dag has appeared today on the main page. I hope you like it. In case you want me to work on any other article (except biographies), please let me know. I hope some day I will be able to visit Baku.-- N.V.V. Char ^Talk . 06:24, 4 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for National Assembly of Azerbaijan

Gatoclass (talk) 06:04, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

New section

I would not mind seeing at least one source (in Azerbaijani) in that section, no. An overall history, a collection of official documents, speeches and statements, an account of the war during a certain time period, etc.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:03, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

But having that in the article is not necessary, especially since you were concerned about the size of the article. Tuscumbia (talk) 20:06, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

I was concerned about the content of the body, not ancillary links and sources. If one were to add an external link or two in the External Links section, provided that they were relevant, I don't believe that I would have any objections. Likewise, I do not think that the addition of a source or two would overly encumber that area, especially considering that it has been sub-divided into sections.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:11, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

You were concerned about the grammar, then about the size, then about the content, after each instance was met with compromise but that's irrelevant now. The book "Encyclopedia of the Karabakh Liberation War: 1988-1994" by Ayvazian you're adding has a POV title. It's like me adding Armenia: The Secrets of a "Christian" Terrorist State by Samuel Weems. How would you react to that? Tuscumbia (talk) 20:19, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

An encyclopedia or a collection of documents are miles, (lightyears actually), away from a racist tract which says that Armenians have "infiltrated" the United States and "established colonies" there and accuses Armenians of trying to "fleece" Christian nations of money for their "genocide industry" (which he in either case crudely discounts as a fabrication). I'm sorry that you are unable to distinguish the difference between a source which attempts to genuinely explain its version of the events and a source which is clearly propaganda in aim and nature.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:51, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, there you go. That's the reaction. I expected nothing less. And it's fine because that's what you choose to believe in. Everyone has a right for an opinion. It's not the actual book Armenia: The Secrets of a "Christian" Terrorist State which I offered to cite, it's the reaction I wanted to see from you. Any Azerbaijani source I would add, would be met with words like "fabrication", "falsifying", "racist", etc. And what does Ayvazian present? Is it anything less than that? I doubt that. By the same token, I could say ethnic cleansing of nearly 1 million ethnic Azerbaijanis from their homes can't be possibly called Karabakh "liberation", because it does sound pretty racist, inconsiderate and inhumane to me. I'm sorry, but your POV book you want to cite in the article is not acceptable. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:14, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Ah, good show, then, sir. You can pat yourself on the back all you like now that you know you tricked me into saying what you wanted.

For all that, Ayvazyan is the editor to an encyclopedia which has entries written by multiple authors, including historians and military figures who participated in the conflict. If the views expressed in the Azerbaijani source are done without the typical agit-prop nonsense and character assassinations against entire peoples and tarring them with such damaging nouns and adjectives as "barbarians" and "deceptive", I would have no reason to exclude them. What an Azerbaijani is going to feel is, naturally, going to differ with an Armenian's sentiments. Armenians felt that the Karabakh war was one of liberation against seventy years of Azerbaijani oppression and a life or death struggle that was trying to combat a repeat of what took place in Nakhichevan over that same period. Perspective matters.

I'm sorry you're so ill-disposed to even good-faith suggestions. It only seems to make the editing environment here all the more hostile. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 21:33, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

No tricks. Just solid expectations which you proved right. The stories written on the subject by Ayvazian or whichever author from Armenia will most likely not differ from each other. I don't think any of them did, are or will hesitate to suppress the information about Azerbaijani heritage of not only Karabakh but also that of Armenia. So, yes what an Armenian feels will differ from Azerbaijani sentiments. Azerbaijanis feel they were forcibly driven out from their homes in Armenia in mass deportations and ethnic cleansing. Armenians in Karabakh are free to feel they were oppressed although how can a minority be oppressed if it's provided with substantial funding from the government of the republic, has its own autonomy parliament, has several parliamentarians representing the minority in the parliament of the country and has had Armenian schools, TV and radio all along. Look at Ottoman Empire where Armenian minority lived in peace for 600 years practising their language and religion while other empires suppressed the minorities to their will, converting and restricting use of minority languages. And at the end, the Armenian revolt :)

Please save your "ill-disposed" comment for someone else. If you have a genuine good faith comment to make, please feel free to comment on my page. If you're going to use that kind of language, stay off my page and comment on the article page. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:52, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

State Commission for Rehabilitation and Reconstruction of Occupied Territories

This is apparently a Azerbaijani government agency. Is there anything about it on the Arm or Az wikis, or elsewhere on the net, that you could point me to? I'd like to create a stub with the mine action authority information that people have added to Azerbaijani Armed Forces that simply doesn't belong there. Buckshot06 (talk) 07:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Buckshot. No, it's not an independent government agency per se. From what I see from Azerbaijani sources (mostly orders and decrees of the government in Azeri), it's a commission, but not an agency. It is often mentioned along with State Committee for Refugees and IDPs, so it must be its component agency or something.

I don't know if they are conducting any mine action but I'll keep searching and will definitely let you know if I come across anything substantial. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 14:22, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

What I was trying to make clear was that this removed section on mine clearance could form the basis for an article on the commission or a section in whatever larger-scope article (Az Min of Internal Affairs?) covers it. Please wind it in if you see the opportunity. Buckshot06 (talk) 22:16, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh I see now. OK, I'll search around and if I find anything, I'll let you know. Thanks! Tuscumbia (talk) 22:47, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Tuscumbia. I first heard about these three articles from User:Takabeg a week or two ago - you'll see on my talkpage. I then was re-warned by User:MarshallBagramyan about them yesterday. He asked me to evaluate the sources they were citing because he said the sources cited did not appear to prove the actual existence of the massacres. (He said) the articles were written in such a way as present allegations as facts. Before starting my investigation I bore in mind that MarshallBagramyan had raised the NK War article to FA standard, thus was relatively likely to be able to give some controversial subjects dispassionate treatment. Having checked the English-language sources I saw that they did not prove that actual massacres had taken place. Yes, attacks upon retreating civilians by irregulars had definitely occurred, but whether large numbers of civilians had been deliberately killed in cold blood was not proven. Therefore I decided to delete the articles, without prejudice to their recreation should they appear to present the events in a slightly more balanced fashion. Does that explain my actions more fully? Regards Buckshot06 (talk) 23:14, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

New section

My imagination does have to go too far to venture out the guess that this edit was done in retaliation for the edits carried out on the massacre articles today. Regardless of what took place, to add frivolous tags in retaliation on another article is a violation of WP:POINT. The same three tags that were found on those articles were all placed in the same order on the Maraghar Massacre article. Since when, pray tell, did sources like BBC News, Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch constitute "unreliable" sources? I can see the point of Caroline Cox being an individual who has great affection for Armenians but, again, to add the unreliability tag seems to not only belabor the point but to emphasize an entirely new one. There was no inherent POV expressed in the article as far as I can tell and everything was properly attributed. That finally brings us to the question of notability. Maraghar may have been poorly-covered in contemporary news sources but its importance in the conflict seems to be warranted by the coverage it has received by the above-mentioned human rights organizations, journalists like Mr. Thomas de Waal, and the editors at BBC.

With that said, I ask you not to make such ill-faith edits nor to retaliate again against other articles when you are having discussions on others elsewhere. Thank you.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 03:19, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

My addition of tags on the Maraghar Massacre article are in line with Wikipedia policies. They have no interference with anything else. Following Atabey's comment on comparison of Maraghar and those three massacres, I took a look at the Maraghar Massacre and added tags.

Please note that this your final warning for crossing the line with your comments like "make such ill-faith edits ". Mind WP:CIVIL or you will be reported. Tuscumbia (talk) 14:47, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Please check the discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard#User:Buckshot06. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CenkX (talk • contribs) 07:12, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Your recent reverting of some of my edits

Please stop wholesale reverting another editor's edits. I have added explanations on the talk pages on the Sayat-Nova and Ghazanchetsots Cathedral pages. The content that you have been reinserting indicates that I am justified in calling them blind reverts: you are restoring material that is clearly wrong, such as mistakes in grammar and wording, and in your recent revert to the Zar page you reinserted the incorrect term "calqued", even though it is obviously the wrong term to use in this situation (did you read the wikipedia article it linked to?). 93.97.143.19 (talk) 14:11, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Meowy, stop edit warring. Your nationalist POV is already a little more than just edits. Tuscumbia (talk) 14:48, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

? Seems clear to me you are only interested in doing pov edits. But a least I've managed to drum it into your head what the meaning of the word "calqued" is. 93.97.143.19 (talk) 15:46, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Azerbaijani wine

Hello! Your submission of Azerbaijani wine at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! — Toдor Boжinov — 22:56, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Azerbaijani wine

Materialscientist (talk) 02:04, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

New section

Happy New Year! (unless you specifically celebrate Nowruz) Hope you have a good one.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 02:21, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Marshall. No, I don't celebrate Novruz, although it has nothing to do with the New Year, at least in Azerbaijan. Happy New Year to you too! Tuscumbia (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks!--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 03:51, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Let's discuss

Let's discuss about Barda.Aram-van--Aram-van (talk) 07:55, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Discussing does not mean, reverting and then claiming you discussed. Discussing means a healthy debate on the talk page of the article and when consensus is reached, making changes. Tuscumbia (talk) 15:10, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Then let's talk!Aram-van--Aram-van (talk) 17:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Warning on edit-warring and disruptive editing

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users who edit disruptively or refuse to collaborate with others may be blocked if they continue. In particular the three-revert rule states that making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block. Work towards wording and content that gains consensus among editors. If unsuccessful, then do not edit war even if you believe you are right. If edit warring continues, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. Vandorenfm (talk) 02:51, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Notice of sanctions

The Arbitration Committee has permitted administrators to impose, at their own discretion, sanctions on any editor working on pages broadly related to Armenia-Azerbaijan and related conflicts if the editor repeatedly or seriously fails to adhere to the purpose of Wikipedia, any expected standards of behavior, or any normal editorial process. If you engage in further inappropriate behavior in this area, you may be placed under sanctions including blocks, a revert limitation or an article ban. The committee's full decision can be read at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2#Final decision. While I'm not necessarily implying you've yet risen to this level, I do see some edit warring and civility issues in your recent past (e.g., an accusation of purposeful misleading [17]). As such, this is a reminder to please pay attention to general civility and WP:BRD guidelines. Thanks. Magog the Ogre (talk) 12:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)