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October 7

The Simpsons background music

Help! Please help me identify where the background music came from in last week's season premier of The Simpsons. I'm referring to the scene at 9m38s, right when the Simpsons first arrive in NYC. Where is that music from!?!? Thanks

Duomillia (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's an instrumental, muzak-y, and un-funky version of "On Broadway". I don't know who's covering it, but though it's an organ, it's definitely not Reuben Wilson. (The episode is "Moonshine River", by the way, but I found no credits, yet. ---Sluzzelin talk 02:06, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! That was driving me crazy not knowing. Duomillia (talk) 02:19, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a header to the question. Dismas|^(talk) 04:59, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

오옹ㅇㅋㅋㅋㅋ

이잉잉ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 난 이거 시름ㅋㅋㅋㅋ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.136.96.75 (talk) 06:04, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Google translate: "Yiing Ying, blah blah blah, I worries!". --Ewigekrieg (talk) 09:12, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brought to you by the makers of "All Your Base Are Belong to Us". ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 00:04, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Bud Selig et. al.? Clarityfiend (talk) 22:05, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! No, actually it's this. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 22:22, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I knew that. I was just making a funny. Clarityfiend (talk) 13:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Even so, you were in the right neighborhood. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 02:19, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Um 'All Your Base Are Belong to Us' is from Japanese, the OP is clearly using Korean. Nil Einne (talk) 04:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Game identification

I can't remember a title of the addictive PC game I played (very briefly) some years ago. Some things I can recall:

Small village/town
small number of inhabitants with individual names
Inhabitants have mood, hunger etc (4+ characteristics)
Inhabitants can interact with each other
historical setting

Could you please help me? --Ewigekrieg (talk) 09:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Was it Europa 1400: The Guild or its sequel The Guild 2? Maybe one of The Settlers (video game) series of games? --Jayron32 19:01, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I was about to suggest glancing at titles listed on Category:Medieval_video_games but I see our categorization is so lousy that Europa 1400 doesn't even get listed there (though The Guild 2 does). Europa (which was re-released as The Guild - Gold Edition, at some point) is a great game, btw, and in my experience it's insanely addictive, so I'm thinking Jayron's spot on with his guess. There's another one that's a bit older I feel like I remember -- it was much blockier, as I recall, like a tile grid, and the name was something like "Dominion" but not exactly "Dominion" (Dominus, maybe? Though the descriptions I'm seeing for it don't sound right.) I guess all this isn't very helpful. :-) Jwrosenzweig (talk) 02:43, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 8

german Wikipedia question: Is there an english term for something like "culture clash comedy"

Hi, in german we have the term "Culture-Clash-Komödie" for movies like Bend It Like Beckham, Rush Hour (1998 film) or Bienvenue chez les Ch'tis, in which a funny clash of cultures plays a major role in those films. Do you have a term for that or even an wikipedia article, which I may have overlooked? Greetings --Zulu55en (talk) 14:12, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well, there's a fish out of water comedy, which might apply if one person was placed in an alien culture. StuRat (talk) 14:23, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think this fits. --Zulu55en (talk) 15:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would say that "culture-clash comedy" is a much better term to describe this kind of film than "fish out of water comedy", especially since Culture-Clash-Komödie looks like it's been borrowed from English in the first place. --Viennese Waltz 15:06, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But have you actually heard that term used much in English ? I haven't. StuRat (talk) 03:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Culture clash comedy" gets 207,000 google hits, while "fish out of water comedy" gets 545,000. But the terms are not strictly synonymous. I would say that Bend It Like Beckham, for example, is a culture-clash comedy but not a fish out of water comedy. Something like Crocodile Dundee would be both. --Viennese Waltz 05:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Usually films are labeled as such as a way to appeal to a specific audience demographic, note "audience", in U.S. culture one usually gives their money to the box office for action/comedy/romance comedy/children etc. and as with the now defunct musicals and westerns that once dominated, audience and culture changes, perhaps in German culture films about clashes of culture do quite well whereas for North Americans we don't usually pay to see that on film per se, Hollywood is smart in that they know their audiences (dearth of musicals and westerns today compared to 50-60-70 years ago) and will blend films for both international and American tastes so a film may be both categories. It's also why some films completely flop with American boxoffice but turn out to be the top 25 all time internationally. In short a direct translation for that term may not exist for the sole reason that German culture appreciates and admires comedy such as that and American culture doesn't. Marketdiamond (talk) 04:39, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia page content dump based on category Film songs or album song

I would like to fetch all page text information of all wiki pages that belong to a movie category. Eg: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hindi_songs

From the page text I would like to extract information related to song title, song length, singer, name of movie/album etc. I am not interested in extracting images just the information about the song.

My questions:

1) Is there a way to download only those pages that I am interested in that belong to a particular category instead of downloading the entire dump?

2) Is it required to have PHP knowledge to install the db dump on a local machine?

3) Are there are tools that extract the information for example: by using a preferred web crawler?

If this is not the right forum to have my questions answered could you please redirect me to the appropriate forum.

VENKATESHCHANNAL (talk) 14:54, 8 October 2012 (UTC)Venkatesh[reply]

Wikipedia:Help desk is probably a better place to ask. The best idea I have is to use the book creator tool in the left-side column. You can then add the category to the book, which will automatically add all of the pages in the category to the book. You can download the book in a few formats, but I don't know if they will be easy to strip down to just the information you want. 209.131.76.183 (talk) 17:50, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

dota

Some one knows wich team won the 2012 world’s dota championships?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC (talk • contribs) 15:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, what is dota? I don't see a competition listed at DOTA which would have a championship. Could you elaborate? --Jayron32 16:34, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Defense of the Ancients and Dota 2 both do. -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 16:40, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just checked and they do. Hm. Good call. Is that what you're looking for?--Jayron32 16:50, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If it is that video game, then here are the most recent champions. --Jayron32 16:51, 8 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, it's about that game, I don't answer you earlier beacouse I had to see the friend who askme in the first place

now I can’t see the link, (I don’t know why and really don’t have time to see what’s happening and fixit) … could you tellme who won the championship??

well… any way thanks very much for your answers — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC (talk • contribs) 00:15, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Acording to This link here when you click the link that says "click to reveal the champions" it states that Invictus Gaming won the grand prize, and Natus Vincere was first runner up. There's a half dozen other teams listed among the top 8 finishers. --Jayron32 02:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

thaks again!! I'll tell my friend — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iskander HFC (talk • contribs) 03:53, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 9

historical films Iran

Is there any Iranian films that are based on a historical event? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.229.38 (talk) 03:10, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If animated films are OK, we have Persepolis, made in France by an Iranian woman, about a child's perspective of the Iranian Revolution. StuRat (talk) 03:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Using WP:CatScan on the intersection between Category:Iranian films and Category:Films based on actual events yields:

Many of which appear to be documentaries... Gabbe (talk) 10:27, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I mean that films that are Iranian and they deal with the history of Islam like Hassan and Hussain, Avicenna, and history of Iran. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.53.230.254 (talk) 16:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Australian actor Paul Larsson

I am looking to find out any information about Paul Larsson. He played Blaster in Mad Max beyond the Thunder-dome. Does he still act, is he even still alive? I have looked on movie sights, search engines etc, and came up empty handed. Always wondered what happened to him. Thank you for your time and help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.28.9.52 (talk) 07:09, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to IMDB, Blaster was his last role. See his entry at IMDB. He was in 4 roles total, and that's the last one listed for him. --Jayron32 16:48, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Recognize a track

I and many other YouTube users are sure we've heard a part from this track (from 1:36 to 2:36) somewhere else, probably a movie soundtrack (The Matrix, perhaps?), but I'm not sure which. Do you recognize it? Thanks a lot, 109.65.247.240 (talk) 17:33, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Parts if that section (not the whole instrumentation, but parts very audible in there) sound inspired by/lifted from New Order, especially the part from 1:50-2:00. Compare that ten second bit with True Faith (song). Not a note-for-note similarity, but clearly similar. Also Bizarre Love Triangle or Vanishing Point Love Vigilantes or a number of their songs. The whole thing has a New Order vibe. I wouldn't say it's a direct copy of any of it, it sounds like an original composition, but it's got a lot of inspiration from New Order. --Jayron32 17:57, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've never heard any of those (in fact, it's the first time I hear of those). I'm sure it's on another soundtrack as well - it sounds really familiar. 109.65.247.240 (talk) 01:14, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. New Order is perhaps one of the most important bands, musically, to come out of the UK in the 1980s. They were almost universally praised, critically, and had several hit singles. They weren't as big in America as they were in the UK, but they weren't invisible in the US either. Anyhoo, you should pull up the songs on YouTube and listen to them in comparison to the track you gave. There's lots of bits in there that sound like its pulled straight from New Order. They have a distinct sound, and it's all over that track you gave. Not 100%, but running through it certainly. --Jayron32 04:12, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Michael Fox's parents

I would like to know whether or not the parents of Canadian actor Michael Fox still live in Canada and if they indeed are alive. Thank you. Iowafromiowa (talk) 19:05, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to [1] his father William died in 1990, and his mother Phyllis (noted briefly here is possibly still alive. You'll want to get back up sources on those, the source I gave is not all that reliable for that information, but at least you have names and a possible death date to help you find the information. --Jayron32 20:06, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Phyllis was vertical as of June 1, 2012.[2] Clarityfiend (talk) 01:00, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not that it is reliable in any way but about 15 years ago family and I were waiting in line at Disney World Jungle Cruise for about 35 minutes and started talking to this couple from I believe was Northern New Hampshire (possibly northern Vermont) who stated and talked at length that they lived down the street from the Foxs and had Michael J. over several times when he was growing up. Never did look it up but ever since when media states he is Canadian I had remembered it must have been literally borderline, unless of course that couple moved to New Hampshire years later. Hope nobody asks any questions about Reagan's secret service detail or our current Ambassador to Ireland cause I might have to divulge all my secrets lol. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's very possible that it was either of those states. Derby Line, Vermont is right on the border. In fact the border runs right through a few rooms of their library and many people live on either side of the line. I would imagine that there's something similar in NH. Dismas|^(talk) 19:38, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

No, unlike Vermont, there are no communities in New Hampshire which abut the border. The entire Canadian border of New Hampshire is occupied by the town of Pittsburg, New Hampshire, there are no villages or settlements within Pittsburg that lie on the border itself. I'm not sure that Pittsburg even has much of a town center to speak of. Pittsburg's town offices actually aren't within Pittsburg itself, they're in the village of West Stewartstown, which is part of a different town. See [3] and [4]. If Pittsburg has any "settlement" within its borders, it'd be down around the Connecticut Lakes, but there's not much there except some vacation communities. The actual Canada-New Hampshire border is as closed to Terra Nullius as you can get. There is a small village called Pittsburg that is within the town limits, see [5] and Google Street View shows a tiny village, but thats still some number of miles from the border. There's only one road that crosses the border in New Hampshire, U.S. Route 3, and street view shows nothing at all in that area in terms of settlement. There's probably a customs station of some sort, and that's it. --Jayron32 19:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting discussion, made me for the first time ever check out Michael J. Fox's bio on wikipedia. If his early life section is complete then this couple I remember could have moved out of Canada to anywhere in NH or VT (I am thinking it was NH) since Fox did not live near the border area, then again Fox's father was military but I find it odd the military would have stationed him on the VT/NH border unless he spent a few years in border service and that is what the couple is referring to. Then again don't believe everything you hear from Disney tourists in a Jungle Cruise line lol. Marketdiamond (talk) 23:35, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Founders of golden age movie studios

For sure, Warner Bros. was founded by four people: Harry Warner, Albert Warner, Sam Warner, and Jack Warner. But I still have questions: 1. Who founded MGM? 2. Who founded Paramount? 3. Who founded RKO? 4. Who founded Twentieth Century Fox? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rebel Yeh (talk • contribs) 23:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Come on. The answers are fairly easily found in their respective articles under such headings as "Founding" and "Origin of company" (though I found a few rather surprising). Clarityfiend (talk) 00:54, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You name all those B-roll studios without mentioning Selznick International Pictures that produced Gone with the Wind and had back-to-back Best Picture Oscars? Since we are on the topic of foundings what in common did Selznick and Warner Brothers have about their foundings? Marketdiamond (talk) 08:35, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't find the answers. That's why I posted this question. Rebel Yeh (talk) 19:50, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer has the information on its founding in the section titled "Founding". Paramount Pictures has information on its founding in the section titled "1911–1920: Early history". RKO Pictures has information on its founding in the section titled "Origin of company" and 20th Century Fox has information on the founding of both Fox Film Corporation and Twentieth Century Pictures and on the merger that created the modern company in the section titled "History". --Jayron32 20:10, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also don't forget to use the citations in the founding sections and look for any relevant notes or external links at the bottom of the articles. Is there something super specific your looking for with these foundings . . . I think that is what is confusing some of us here since all the studios you mentioned have extensive sections that cover that. Hope this helps. Marketdiamond (talk) 23:41, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 10

Are drums louder than they were 40 years ago?

Are drums louder than they were 40 years ago? I'm not a drummer, but when I go into a music store and try a drumstick on drums, they seem much louder than they were ~40 years ago (for the same force of hitting). Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 00:26, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seems unlikely. I suspect the reasons are psychological. That is, old-timers like us don't like loud noises, while teens can't get enough of them. StuRat (talk) 01:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The drums were made out of wood then - now they use other materials. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:47, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Our article Vistalite Drums states that acrylic drums are louder than those made of more traditional materials, although the statement is not sourced. - Ka renjc 08:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They seem louder to me. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 19:43, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Exact date of comic publishing

Or being "released" or "hitting shelves" or "debuting" or whatever term they may use for Amazing Fantasy #15 also at wikipedia at Amazing Fantasy and also for The Amazing Spider-Man issue #1 in 1963. Thanks! Marketdiamond (talk) 11:37, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not a comic fan at all, any help on this? Do comic books have a "hitting shelves" date or release date? Thanks. Marketdiamond (talk) 23:48, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not especially a comics fan, but as a former Bookseller (and Book Editor) I can offer some likely applicable information.

Most books, magazines and, I'm sure, comics in the 1960s in the UK – and I'm fairly sure also in most other countries – did have an official "publication date" aka "embargo date" before which they were not supposed to be put on the shelves/racks/whatever and sold: i.e they were "embargoed" by the contracts between publishers, distributors and retailers from being sold before that date.

However, since it can take a fair amount of time getting publications to all their retail outlets, especially in a large country like the USA but also in the UK, and even longer to ship them to other countries by sea (for example, the USA or UK to Australia), and also a finite amount of time for each retailer to handle their stock and arrange to display many new titles every day, many copies might be delivered days to weeks before the publication date, and were supposed to be kept in storage until Publication Day.

It was not uncommon for less scrupulous or less competent retailers to sell publications early, thereby deliberately or accidently "stealing a march" on their competitors – some retailers would police each other's shops and complain to the publisher if this happened, but ". . . after the horse had bolted" and so on.

Moreover, it would be common for the same publication to have different publication dates in different countries since, for example, a Release date in Australia on Day X would scarcely affect sales in the USA on their Release date X=7.

The upshot of all this is that asking what a particular publication's official release date was would depend on where one was talking about, and it's always possible that some or even many copies had actually been sold earlier. Hope this helps. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 84.21.143.150 (talk) 11:21, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that comic books during this period were considered important enough to have embargo dates. They did have cover dates, which were the dates at which the comic was supposed to be removed from newsstands to make space for the next issue. You can expect, therefore, that Amazing Fantasy #15 (Aug. 1962) would have gone on sale no later than early July 1962. But there were, predictably, efforts to game the system, and in fact the Comics.org database (to which you linked) tells us that Amazing Fantasy #15 went on sale on June 5, 1962 (even though Amazing Fantasy was a monthly). The database does not seem to have on-sale dates for The Amazing Spider-Man #1 (Mar. 1963), a bi-monthly, but it likely went on sale in December 1962 or early January 1963. John M Baker (talk) 14:56, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1930s American film actresses - British accents?

Does it seem like most American film actresses of the 1930s spoke with British accents? Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 17:28, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's called a Mid-Atlantic or Transatlantic accent. It was expected of American actors at the time even though few people naturally sound like that. Kelsey Grammer sounds a bit British to Amercians but I've heard he doesn't sound British to Britons. I though Katherine Hepburn was English until I was 20 or so. AlexiusHoratius 17:49, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Not British accents, usually it was upper class American accents. See Boston Brahmin, Philadelphia Main Line, etc. Many actresses (such as Katherine Hepburn came from this background; others likely emulated it, much as modern actors and actresses are trained to emulate General American regardless of their native dialect. For example, Franklin Delano Roosevelt's native dialect was Hudson Valley English; his prominence in the media in the 1930s probably set it as the industry standard accent for the time. It is also a convenient convention; if an actress is portraying an "upper class" heroine, one can convey a lot just by the accent. Just as movies established the "Gangster" accent (the harsher varieties of Inland Northern American English associated with places like Chicago and Detroit), the "Surfer accent" (think Jeff Spicoli from Fast Times at Ridgemont High or like, anything Keanu Reaves has done, based on California English), the "Goofball character accent", almost invariably some variation of North–Central American English, (think Fargo (film)), etc. Hollywood often uses these convenient short cuts to establish character context without having to do a long exposition. As soon as you hear James Cagney talk, you think instantly "Gangster" and don't have to be showed that in the film, even if in reality there are millions of people who speak like that and aren't criminals. It allows shortcuts to be taken. If Hedy Lamarr talked like James Cagney in a film, and was portraying a debutante, it would seem a bit incongruous! --Jayron32 17:51, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've noticed this for a long time, but today I saw part of Women against Women, from 1938, by an American director, using American cars, and all of the women had that accent. There were three of them at a table and none of their husbands had that accent. Only one other man seemed to have it. Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 18:15, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In addition to the relevant articles above, see also Stage English which is about a codified version of this accent that was specifically taught to actors especially of the films of the 30's and 40's. You can also hear this way of speaking in the late (2003) NY Senator Daniel Patrick Moynihan, who was born in Oklahoma and grew up poor in the Bronx. Listen to his vowels and his clearly enunciated /t/s in this clip: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPxkJZsz4Kc . Local Philadelphia and NFL "Voice of God" broadcaster John Facenda had wonderful vowels, and British /r/s and /t/s, but had a street brawler's vocabulary off the air. Listen to this great outtake clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsoLHIBi1rU . Philadelphia councilman Thacher Longstreth who also died in 2003 was also famous for his Mainline accent. I haven't been able to find a video of him at youtube, but it would be great if someone could post a file. μηδείς (talk) 18:18, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Yes, those women did use the accent you are describing. No, it isn't British, it's a native American accent known Mid-Atlantic English which was an affectation of Hollywood, and based predominantly on actual American accents as can be heard in various upper-class pockets such as Philadelphia's main line, the Hudson Valley of the Roosevelts, and the Boston Brahmin accent. It was a deliberate cultivation of Hollywood, but strictly speaking it isn't British as it did not arise in Britain. --Jayron32 18:21, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

Bubba73 ^{You talkin' to me?} 01:22, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Achievement music?

Hi I am looking for a music for achievement moments. Like in a film, there is a music, when the main character achieve some divine thing. In the background there is accompaniment of human voices which say "oh ho ho ho oh ho oh ho". It is very similar to Tarzan's roar, but it is much more calming. Thank you. Exx8 (talk) 23:35, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Chariots of Fire (instrumental) and Gonna Fly Now immediately come to mind, not sure if your trying to identify a specific tune with the oh ho ho ho stuff . . . are you? Marketdiamond (talk) 23:44, 10 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, these aren't which I have talked about.Thank you anyway.Exx8 (talk) 01:01, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Orinoco Flow? --Jayron32 01:11, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, just to be clear, you're looking for a specific tune? Not just various pieces of music from this genre, right? Dismas|^(talk) 01:23, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If I am reading you right that this is a specific song and you know it is used in a movie for a cinematic "achieve some divine thing", do you remember the movie? Marketdiamond (talk) 02:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tarzan Boy? Nricardo (talk) 02:40, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"achieve some divine thing" I would think would rule out Tarzan Boy, but curious about OPs opinion. Marketdiamond (talk) 03:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would guess at an understated version of Handel's Hallelujah Chorus from Messiah (Handel). meltBanana 09:38, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Lion Sleeps Tonight? --Dweller (talk) 12:22, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Lion Sleeps Tonight is one of the greatest songs of the last century, especially in this version by Miriam Makeba, but is it really that climactic? Is there a movie scene you can refer us to? μηδείς (talk) 01:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see anything about "climactic" in the OP's question. No idea if any of its myriad recordings have been used in film - I quite like the Tight Fit version myself, but the video is quite simply the worst ever made in music history. Seemed to fit the "oh ho ho ho oh ho oh ho"/Tarzan requirements quite well. I find its rhythm pretty calming. --Dweller (talk) 22:50, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The OP said "achievement" which is why I said climactic. I do see where you are going with the oh ho ho thing, but if that's what he want's I think Rmhermen may have the answer below. And please pay attention where you insert comments, Dweller. You separated my comment above from its signature below--but no worry, I have simply added a signature above. μηδείς (talk) 01:58, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest "I was cured alright" set to the Ode to Joy as a great example of the trope. μηδείς (talk) 17:33, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Hojotoho!" from Wagner's opera, Die Walküre? Rmhermen (talk) 21:35, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great minds. I was thinking of a similar piece from Die Meistersinger von Nürnberg, or even the Ride of the Valkyries. But they utterly fail the "much more calming" test. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 21:43, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Another possibility is the overused "O Fortuna", (also mondegreened as "Oh Four Tuna". ---Sluzzelin talk 23:08, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also The Flower Duet from Lakmé - [6] - might fit the bill. They do sing actual words, but one could be forgiven for thinking they're just repeating "oh" etc. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 23:17, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've been hearing Vangelis' "The Conquest of Paradise" played during the Cricket T20 World Cup, just before the National Anthems. It seems to be suitably portentous for the OP. The choir are singing words, but apparently they were made up by Vangelis to sound like Latin. --TammyMoet (talk) 09:23, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 11

Title of a Vietnam war film, please

Hello Learned Ones ! Can you recall me the title(s) of this (these) war film(s) about Vietnam ? : at the end, a man holding a club circled with barbed wire lifts his arms. While a small tank with a big Stars & Stripes strolls around, and soldiers with punk dress and hair-do arrive, along with a yellow police dog …I hesitate between Platoon, The Deer Hunter, and Apocalypse now … and I swear I didn’t smoke any fitted carpet lately, I simply awoke today with a brain not so able at it used to be in the past decades…But looking supra, seems I was not the only one today...October cold coming ? :-) Thanks a lot beforehand for your help . T.y. Arapaima (talk) 06:34, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely not Deer Hunter's ending and I don't recall a scene like that in the film either, Apocalypse Now I also don't recall anything like that (though not 100%), Platoon my memory is quite hazy on, others such as Forrest Gump, Born on the 4th of July, and Full Metal Jacket I think we can also rule out. Marketdiamond (talk) 08:19, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't ring a bell. Try browsing Category:Vietnam War films. Clarityfiend (talk) 01:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Les Mis, in French

I'm keen to find music track for some songs from Les Miserables, in French. My own French skills are very limited and even staler. What would I search for on YouTube for the French versions of Do You Hear the People Sing?, Master of the House and At the End of the Day? HiLo48 (talk) 08:12, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Being [myself]an amateur Francophone[,] I think your mistake was searching under "French"[.] [T]he very first result when searching under "Francais" (or more properly Français) is probably what will solve this for you, and many more results. C'est parti . . . tu m'étonnes . . . à la vôtre! Marketdiamond (talk) 08:28, 11 October 2012 (UTC) [Voilà . . . per Jack de Oz][reply]

Are you an amateur Anglophone yourself, Marketdiamond? I'm struggling to parse your sentence. Are you saying you're an amateur Francophone, or HiLo is? (If it's the latter case, there's a dangling modifier.) My best guess is that it's a run-on sentence, with the full stop meant to go after "French". Non? -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 08:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Avant-garde! Non? ;-) Marketdiamond (talk) 10:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Alors, formidable, mon vieux! -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 12:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

C'est le ton qui fait la musique, Monsieur! Marketdiamond (talk) 13:32, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Are there any games like this?

Do you know any games like Evidence: The Last Ritual and In Memoriam? Thanks! 193.224.66.230 (talk) 14:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

If you mean the "alternate reality" part of Evidence: The Last Ritual (where the game intrudes into real life) then we have a list of Alternate reality games at Category:Alternate reality games -- Finlay McWalterჷTalk 15:05, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What does Ryan Gosling have to do with Prime Minister Stephen Harper?

I don't understand this YouTube video and what Canadian actor Ryan Gosling has to do with the Prime Minister. Can anybody tell me? Iowafromiowa (talk) 18:02, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It appears to be, in my opinion, a get-out-the-vote drive where the people in the video aren't celebrities, but are still encouraging people to vote against Prime Minister Stephen Harper in the upcoming election. Based on the date of the video's release (2011), it would appear they're soliciting votes for the 2011 election and refer to the turnout in the 2008 election. Based on the results of the '11 election, it would appear that this campaign didn't have much effect, as Harper's party, the Conservative Party of Canada, increased its presence in the Canadian Parliament. --McDoob AU 93 23:52, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Additional Info: Upon reading the election results a bit more closely, I found that while the Tories did indeed increase their standing in the House of Commons to the point where they had a majority, the New Democratic Party had a sizeable jump in the number of seats it held and became the main opposition party. --McDoob AU 93 16:54, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Overturning the result of a sporting event

I am looking for an example of a theoretically possible outcome of a sporting event, but I know of no actual occurrence of it. Has there ever been a professional, team-based and team-scored sporting event in which, either as an exceptional event or with some regularity, the result of a dual contest was overturned after the fact due to the actions of one team?

To put it a simpler but less precise way, does members of a sports team being caught cheating after the fact ever mean that a win is retroactively turned into a loss?

I know that this happens in individual sports (like boxing and MMA), and I know that this happens in semi-team sports, (like road cycling and NASCAR), and I'm fairly confident it happens in high level amateur sports (like the Olympics) but I can't think of a single proper professional team sport in which it has ever happened.

If that doesn't lead anywhere, what if the restriction about after the fact is lifted? Has a pro sports team ever forfeited a game due to being caught cheating during it?

Much obliged for any suggestions you might have for cases that could fit these scenarios. gnfnrf (talk) 22:20, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not specifically on topic but the fans were steamed and so were the players in these incidents, and a few of them did overturn the score (and win)[7]. I also know of some National Football League games where the league does issue an official apology but none that I know have been overturned. Marketdiamond (talk) 22:46, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

<e/c>Here's a cracking example for you from international cricket (professional). In the ball tampering controversy in August 2006, the Fourth Test match between England and Pakistan that summer (see Pakistani cricket team in England in 2006) was interrupted by an allegation of Pakistan ball tampering, ie cheating, made by the umpires. The Pakistan team refused to continue the match, so under the laws of cricket, they forfeited the match. The International Cricket Council later bowed to pressure and changed the result to a draw, before returning to their senses and reasserting England's default win. --Dweller (talk) 22:47, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Melbourne Storm salary cap breach caused the club to be stripped of all honours it had achieved between 2006 and 2010, including 2 premierships and 3 minor premierships. But those results were not re-attributed to the losing teams. There are just gaping holes now, where results should be. -- Jack of Oz ^[Talk] 23:09, 11 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

There have been occasional major league games which were protested, and the game was replayed from the point of the protest and the "other team" won. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 04:19, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

See Pine Tar Incident for a specific example of what Bugs is talking about. The Yankees won the first time under protest, the Royals won the protest and got to replay the game from the point of contention. They Royals ended up winning. --Jayron32 04:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Also, in American College sports, teams can have wins "vacated" from their record for violations of the NCAA's strict amateurism rules. It happens with alarming frequency. --Jayron32 04:36, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. In contrast, in the NFL there is no recourse for an injustice, such as the botched touchdown call in the infamous Green Bay - Seattle game recently. Corking bats and sandpapering baseballs are among the types of "cheating" in pro baseball that could maybe theoretically result in an upheld protest under certain conditions. But "amateur status" and academic issues are irrelevant in the pros. Individuals might be punished for transgressions of one kind or another, but the results nearly always stand. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 05:10, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Green Bay got a break on an earlier scoring drive. And don't get me started on Super Bowl XL ... Clarityfiend (talk) 09:14, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Do you mean the phantom holding call that called back the Jerramy Stevens touchdown or the Hasselbeck fumble that got overturned on review. The first may have affected the eventual outcome of the game, but the second went the Seahawks' way, so didn't benefit the Steelers (the eventual winners) anyways. --Jayron32 13:02, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In Nwankwo Kanu's first match for Arsenal he disregarded the 'unwritten rule' that says if a team puts the ball out for a player to receive treatment for an injury, the opposition should return the ball to the keeper of the injured player's team once play resumes. Ray Parlour threw the ball towards Sheffield United's keeper as expected, but Kanu intercepted the pass and played Marc Overmars in on goal whilst the United defence just stood around watching. The outcry against this 'accidental cheating' was such that Arsenal offered, and The FA agreed, to replay the match, thus nullifying the initial result. I'm not sure exactly how the first game is recorded in the history books, but it would seem to match your criteria. Match report (by an Arsenal fan) is here. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 09:47, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think it happens in football. However, being found to have various irregularities can have later consequences. In the Italian Serie A league, Torino F.C. would have been league champions in 1926-27 if there hadn't been "irregularities" in their match against Juventus. Juventus were again involved in the 2006 Italian football scandal where allegations of game rigging eventually led to the champions being relegated and docked points. {{Sports Corruption Scandals}} has more. Astronaut (talk) 13:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 12

Loveless Lyrics

I'm having trouble finding lyrics to My Bloody Valentine's Loveless album. Yes, I know that the lyrics are mostly indistinguishable anyway, so they don't really matter. I want to know: is anyone aware of any non-school-appropriate lyrics in the album at all, clearly audible or not? I don't want to make a bad impression showing off profane shoegazer... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.226.36 (talk) 03:57, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I remember reading magazine articles in the late '90s saying that at least some of MBV's lyrics were suggestive or a little on the kinky side, but searching the databases available to me now I'm not coming up with anything that confirms that at all. I'm inclined to believe that it would have been earlier material that was the case for; "Slow" talks about a "slow slow slow slow suck," for example, and the repeated refrain in "Sueisfine" is actually supposedly suicide, &c. As far as Loveless lyrics go, this site has transcriptions that look like they were done by a fan, but seem reasonably close to me (and I've listened to this album more times than I can count over the years). They look pretty safe as far as I'm concerned. --some jerk on the Internet (talk) 13:42, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Older Tintin movies on DVD

I was wondering if The Crab with the Golden Claws (film), Tintin and the Golden Fleece, and Tintin and the Blue Oranges might come out on DVD.142.255.103.121 (talk) 04:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This review confirms that they have all been released on DVD, the former as a French release by Fox Pathé and the latter by the BFI. Amazon.co.uk has both of the latter in stock if you search, but it may prove harder to get the first film unless you buy direct from France. - Ka renjc 08:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Argo Movie details

In the movie ARGO, what are the characters cover names? For instance what is Ben Affleck's playing Tony Mendez cover name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.79.142.47 (talk) 19:55, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Antonio Mendez appears to have travelled under his own name, according to his own account of the Canadian Caper. The only cover name mentioned in this account is Teresa Harris, the supposed "story consultant" on the fake movie, which was assigned to one of the rescued women. - Ka renjc 20:41, 12 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the film, Tony Mendez uses the cover name of Ken Hastings. Speaking of the film Argo, who was the Cannes-award-winning producer played by Alan Arkin? 69.62.243.48 (talk) 01:54, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to this article, in the real-life escape, ... Cora Lijek would become Teresa Harris, the writer. Mark [Lijek] was the transportation coordinator. Kathy Stafford was the set designer. Joe Stafford was an associate producer. [Robert] Anders was the director. [Lee] Schatz, the party’s cameraman, received the scoping lens and detailed specs on how to operate a Panaflex camera. No cover names for the other participants yet, but maybe knowing their assigned roles on the fake movie will help. - Ka renjc 18:05, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't mean the diplomats who were rescued, I mean the Alan Arkin character, in Hollywood, who helped to develop the film cover story. 69.62.243.48 (talk) 23:24, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to this NPR article, that character was not a real person, fictional. The person John Goodman's portrays does exist in real life. RudolfRed (talk) 23:33, 13 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 13

October 14

90's Songs for Ensemble

Every year, my high school holds a musical performance event in which the students sing both solo and group ensemble pieces that are choreographed for part or all of the group, with a pit orchestra providing accompaniment. We have a theme each year, such as the 80's, prime-time TV, Cole Porter, or simply "America". I want to suggest a theme on the 1990's this year, so I was wondering if anyone could think of good pop/rock songs that would fit well in a musical environment such as this. (I know these types of questions aren't very reference-y, but you folks know a lot about this stuff). 75.73.226.36 (talk) 16:42, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This site lists the top 100 songs from the 1990s: http://www.alaskajim.com/polls/2002topsongs1990s_results.htm. Some are more memorable than others, though. For example My Heart Will Go On, being used in the movie Titanic, is more timeless than many others, especially since the film was just re-released for the 100th anniversary of the sinking. StuRat (talk) 21:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TCM Database

Hello, I'm not completely familiar with all of Wikipedia's linking policies, but I'd guess that the linking of many, many movies to the TCM Database must violate a conflict of interest policy of some kind since TCM offers many of these movies for sale on their website. I assume Wikipedia doesn't allow other retailers to create such links in their articles. Joe McLaughlin joemcphilly1960 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joemcphilly1960 (talk • contribs) 20:59, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

TCM has the audacity to provide useful information, so it is part of the (Un)Holy Triumvirate, along with IMDb and AllRovi, in the external links section. I just wish I could get a fee for every TCM link I've added over the years. Clarityfiend (talk) 23:57, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

who is this HUGE HUGE GIANT BODYBUILDER bodyguard/chaperone?

Who is this monster man? What is his name? How much does he weigh? How tall is he?71.142.72.131 (talk) 23:17, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Would someone leave a comment on my IP's talk page when we figure it out?71.142.72.131 (talk) 23:17, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

He certainly is big, but I bet the toy dog and tiny woman make him look even bigger than he really is. StuRat (talk) 23:30, 14 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

His name is Tim Blakely (the tiny woman's name is Geri Halliwell and the dog's name is "Daddy"}. ---Sluzzelin talk 01:36, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Geri Halliwell is 5'1": [8]. StuRat (talk) 07:52, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

October 15

Super Nintendo Racing Game

I have a faint memory of a video game i played when i was young. It was some kind of racing game, but you could use semi's and other weird vehicles. Any ideas what that is? the juggresurection ^{(>-.-(Vಠ_ಠ)} 01:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

You could try looking through the list at List of Super Famicom and Super Nintendo vehicle simulation games to see if anything rings a bell. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 07:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Semi and other wierd vehicles part reminds me of the Twisted Metal series, in particular the World Tour edition, however that was more of a Destruction Derby style shoot and smash-em-up with world cities instead of a bowl, rather than a race... gazhiley 12:08, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Lady Came From Baltimore

Tom Harden's song, The Lady Came From Baltimore; what do the lyrics mean? Roxanne — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.57.34.57 (talk) 01:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The lyrics are shown here. I'm not familiar with the song, but the meaning seems fairly simple, to wit: A poor boy marries a rich Baltimore girl named Susanne Moore, initially intending simply to use her for her money. She is unsuspecting and in love, but her father (possibly a lawyer - he 'read the law') suspects the truth - that the boy is a 'thief'. However, it turns out that the boy develops feelings for his wife, falls in love with her and ends up staying with her for love, not money.

That's what the words say, anyway. If there's a subtle hidden meaning, I'm afraid I've missed it. Subtle as a lump hammer, me. - Cucumber Mike (talk) 07:48, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The only subtlety is that it says he's there to "steal her rings", which, I suspect, shouldn't be taken literally. I assume he had a plan to get more money out off her than just grabbing her rings and running. After all, no wedding is required to do that. StuRat (talk) 07:56, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ceefax music

Hi there, can anyone tell the piece of music played on BBC2 ceefax pages in the early 80's, it was classical music and it was accompanied by an animation of faceless musicians in georgian clothes playing on a boat in the sea with waves crashing around them, please help, thankyou.188.28.2.83 (talk) 10:10, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is Mickey Mouse in the public domain in other countries?

Is Mickey Mouse in the public domain in other countries? I understand that it will never be in the public domain in the US. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.31.17 (talk) 13:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

To me, the US is one of those "other countries". But where is the source that tells us that "it will never be in the public domain in the US"? I knew US copyright law was extreme, but that seems hard to believe. HiLo48 (talk) 16:53, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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