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How can I contribute Mt. Everest page?

I would like to contribute on Mt. Everest page i.e. add records - 'First women to ascent Mt. Everest twice in a week'

How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by S2 krish (talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Editing Stubs: "talk"

Hello everyone, I'm brand new to this side of wikipedia. My subject of knowledge only has a small "stub" page at this point. I would like to seriously expand this, and am wondering what the etiquette is when it comes to stubs. Do I need to begin by proposing what I want to do on the "talk" section of the article? And if so, how long should await replies before just going ahead? Actually, I wonder about this last part with more evolved articles as well. If you are inspired to make changes, how long should one wait after opening it up for discussion? Thanks so much! Nagamama (talk) 06:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi Nagamama and welcome to the Teahouse and Wikipedia! You can make any constructive changes that you want without asking on the talk page unless they are considered "controversial". If it's a stub article, I don't think expanding would be controversial. But if it's a long article that is controversial (Creation-evolution controversy, Global warming, etc.), it probably would be a good idea to post on the talk page first.

We even have a guideline called "be bold", which basically means "Just do it!". Also, edits can always be undone or modified if necessary, so don't be afraid to make mistakes. The Anonymouse (talk | contribs) 07:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

thanks!

Nagamama (talk) 08:15, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

How to prevent page from being deleted

Hello,

I am new to Wiki submitting and would like to know what I would need to do/edit/change on my page for it to not be deleted. I submitted a page for a small comedy group in Canada who is touring Canadian conventions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Start_Comedy) and I don't know or understand what it is the community needs changed. If there is anyone who can help out, that would be great.

Thank you--Pappat708 (talk) 03:54, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. Don't panic - see Save an article proposed for deletion and simply familiarize yourself with the deletion process, and address the issues raised. That said Notability is a concern here.

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL -- Moxy (talk) 04:30, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply,

I still don't understand what more is needed. while I would not call us famous, I would at least call us notable. We have completed works in 6 months that notable groups take 5 years to achieve. I have given all my references and am starting to believe I need to sign a media deal for us to be listed.

I don't blame the community, just those who rush into deletion without giving proper guideline and instruction to rectify a situation.

If anyone can think of a way for this page to be restored and edited to the liking of the community, please feel free to let me know

Thanks again--Pappat708 (talk) 04:55, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Hey Pappat708. Notability is not about worth, merit or value of the group. It is about the world having taken note of a topic by publishing about it in reliable sources. It all goes hand in glove with the idea that an encyclopedia is by definition a tertiary source, only containing content that is based on primary and secondary sources already published and in existence (and thus it never first publishes material about new things). So, the most interesting, novel, intelligent, creative, funny, meritorious, awesome new thing that has not been previously published in reliable sources has no place on Wikipedia because of what Wikipedia is. It's really as simple as this: If Force Start Comedy has not been the subject of being noted by the world by substantive publication about it in reliable sources (that are entirely independent of Force Start Comedy itself), and from which publications information for an article can be gleaned and verified by citations, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 05:49, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Double dip

This disambiguation page has a number of entries that do not link to WP articles. Should those entries be removed? Thanks, Illia Connell (talk) 17:37, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Other than the Wiktionary box, I see no links pointing away from en.wikipedia there. Could you please clarify what you mean for me? Thanks — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 21:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Illia Connel, welcome! I think you are talking about the entries that do not link directly to an article with "double dip" in their name. Doing this is common, and in accordance to Wikipedia policy. I hope that answered your question! nerdfighter 22:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

OK, thanks for your replies. Illia Connell (talk) 23:35, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome ! Feel free to come back if you have any more questions. nerdfighter 01:51, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

For reference, Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages is the standard guideline regarding disambiguation pages (including what to/not-to include). DMacks (talk) 05:26, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

How Can I...start an article on a BLP...

Hello Tea-inmates...This is The Wikimon again. I found that Wikipedia does not have an article on Robin Sharma and so have started one on him in my Sandbox, link goes something like this: User:The Wikimon/ Sandbox/ Robin Sharma... So how do I go forward because this pretty much all that I found on him... And there is the rule which says that each and every point about him needs to have a source and I can't find too many good sites on him... What do I do??? The Wikimon (talk) 14:14, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

And BTW this new "Add a Question Window" sends the request down to the bottom of the page.. Is it a problem or did I goof-up?? Thanks!!! The Wikimon (talk) 14:24, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Wikimon and welcome to the Teahouse and thanks for dropping by! I also commend you for taking the initiative to create a new article. To answer your question, you could "publish" your article on WP by going to this page and pasting your text and then clicking save. BUT, I don't recommend that you do that until you have a stronger article, as per the notice at the top of this same page an article on Robin Sharma was already created and deleted. Since this is your first article, you would learn more by using the Article Wizard. -- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:38, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Now part two of your question is regarding sources. While not every sentence has to be sourced its a good general rule of thumb especially on BLP's, but use your good judgement as there is no hard fast rule on this. I would recommend you refer to WP:BLP as you continue to develop this or other Biographies of Living People (BLP). Also note that article subjects that are not "notable" per WP standards run the risk of quick deletion. So its to your advantage to include strong sourcing to establish reliability per WP:BIO.-- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:45, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Good places to look for sources are: Google News and Google Books. Here are some additional sources CNN, Forbes, IBD, Wash Post. They are mostly minor mentions but they may help you to fortify the article. Another thing in your favor is that Sharma has written several books published by a notable publishing house [1]. Let me know if you want more help developing or publishing the article. Cheers!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 14:58, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Many people do not realize that a search of Google News from the main page only searches a short period into the past, nor it is it at all intuitive how to get to the archives (it was much more user friendly until relatively recently). Anyway, this is the direct link, which has quite a bit of material you might find useful to expand the draft and cite. Cheers.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:29, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Excellent point Fuhghettaboutit (is that NewYawkeze??) Google archives used to be very accessible but now they are burying it and there's talk of it being discontinued. Thanks for the direct link its a very helpful tool. Cheers! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 16:46, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks a lot!!! Once again, Teahouse lives up to its name! The Wikimon (talk) 17:16, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Just need a quick hand

I need a little bit of help, don't mean to be annoying.

I really need to move Interprovincial 3-Day to Interprovincial Championship (cricket) and 2013 Interprovincial 3-Day to 2013 Interprovincial Championship. I would do it myself, but my account is new, so I still don't have the privileges required to do it. I'd be really grateful if you could just nip across to do it please.

Many thanks, NitramCricket96 (talk) 13:48, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse. Your best bet is to gather consensus on the talk pages of the articles before moving it. In fact, all moves should be discussed before being performed (the exception is moving your own drafts to article space). ^King Jakob _C2 13:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

It would take a long time to get a consensus seeing as it's a rather obscure topic. However, it says here [2] (under 'Interpros') that it is officially known as the Interprovincial Championship. NitramCricket96 (talk) 14:30, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi, NitramCricket96. Looking at the edit history for Interprovincial 3-Day, only two other editors contributed to the article, one an IP. I suggest that you contact the other registered editor on his talk page to suggest the move. Since a redirect from the old name will be left so there will be no confusion, it is likely that the original author will agree. Contacting the other user involved will probably be quicker than just posting to the article talk page. If he doesn't reply within two days, then you will be autoconfirmed and can move the article yourself. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ·cont) Join WER 17:14, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Your best option would be to talk to the folks at WP:WikiProject Cricket, they are the subject specialists. Roger (talk) 06:54, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tropical Depression01W (2010)

Hi dude, do you think this will be moved in an article space by the bots?Procyclone (talk) 02:45, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

No, at this time I do not think Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Tropical Depression01W (2010) will be moved because it is set to "Article not currently submitted for review." by the first argument of "t" in {{AFC submission|t|ts=20130324065224|u=Procyclone|ns=5}}. This doesn't mean that someone couldn't change that and request review. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 12:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

But in the bottom says Review waiting how is that?Procyclone (talk) 06:42, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Shortage of sources and information

A month ago or so I was reading about one of my favorite football clubs and viewing the players in it and the articles about them. I noticed at least one did not have it, so I decided to make his. After seeing several other articles about the other players being as short as one or two sentences, I thought it would suffice with the exact same ammount of sentences and sources etc. for this one.

To my surprise, the submission was declined a few days ago, and the demand was that I should write more about the player's biography and give more sources. But the problem is that this particular player happens to be eccentric, not too famous, not well-known, though I was curious about who he was and I figured others might be too so that's why I made it in the first place. Nevertheless; I don't know if I'd be able to write more than a paragraph about him and I'm bugged over the fact that the other articles didn't need much to pass while they could surely fit in much more about those more famous players than this one who has yet to even play his first game for the club and is not that known.

So I wonder: 1.How much is the bare minimum of text beyond which nobody can reject the submission? 2.What should I do if I don't have enough info to work with in order to write that much?Azrail Kabir (talk) 03:46, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. You may want to read up on WP:BLP and WP:V, as well as WP:RS. Also, I don't know what the bare minimum text is on this one. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to the Teahouse! In order to have an article on Wikipedia, one must be notable. One can achieve this through many ways, but the most common one is passing the general notability guideline which states that one should receive significant coverage from third-party sources. Does this player have any newspaper articles written about him? If so, cite them. You say that the player is unique...what makes him unique? As for the other part of your question, there is no minimum for the amount of text an article should have. Ideally, we want to provide as comprehensive coverage as possible, but one sentence articles are often written and accepted on Wikipedia. If you have specific questions on why your article was declined, I would ask the reviewer at his talk page. I have worked with him before and I am sure that he will give you some constructive feedback. I hope this helps. Respectfully yours, Go Phightins! 03:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Go Phightins! brings up an excellent point. To create an article, it must comply with the WP:GNG and reliable sources need to be backed up. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 04:03, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Alrighty, I'll read up on that and try my luck with the next submission later. Thanks guys. =)Azrail Kabir (talk) 04:07, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for visiting the Teahouse, Azrail Kabir. I noticed that you wrote that the player "has yet to even play his first game for the club and is not that known". That leads me to believe that this player may not yet be notable by Wikipedia standards. If not, we shouldn't have an article about the player yet. Please read WP:FOOTY, our notability guideline for association football. Don't worry - there are many other interesting articles to work on. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:01, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Don't however let that discourage you from creating the article as a in your userspace if there is sufficient reason to believe he will become notable enough before too long. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 01:11, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

updating references

Hi I'm a neubie - I have an updated link for a broken reference (no. 24) on this page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-Government#cite_note-24

Sadly the reason the link went dead in the first place is a change of government who then reversed all the E-Government initiatives of the previous government and along the way erased all trace of them.

Now when I go to edit the References section on the page all I see is "Reflist|35em". I can't see any obvious way of getting in and updating the dead link. I know this is probably obvious somewhere but I haven't had much luck searching for an answer as yet.

Any help here?

Best regards,

Stephenthorpe (talk) 03:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC) Stephen Stephenthorpe (talk) 03:31, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Stephen, welcome to the Teahouse! The way reflists work is that the references are actually defined in the body of the article, where the inline citation is listed. So, in this case, you'd click on the carat symbol in the front of reference 24 and see where that goes in the body of the article (here, the last sentence of the "Democratization" section). Once you've found that, go to that same place in the edit screen, and you should see the URL for the reference sandwiched between two ref tags (<ref> ... </ref>). It's a counter-intuitive way for references to work, but it's actually pretty nice when writing an article. Does that help? Writ Keeper (t + c) 03:38, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Brilliant - thanks very much - all sorted now! Stephenthorpe (talk) Stephen

AfC helper script

Using Google Chrome, I have enabled the script in my preferences and even bypassed my cache. However, when I want to review articles, I need to do so manually. Why? Arctic Kangaroo 02:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello there and welcome to the teahouse. Did you go through Wikipedia:WIZARD? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 02:53, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Haha. In case you didn't know, I'm just an editor who has been here for a few months seeking some help at this Teahouse. Because, I want to help out in reviewing articles at AfC. But, I have to do it manually, which is a little troublesome. Arctic Kangaroo 03:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello again. I can understand what is troubling you. Did you ask about this at WT:AFC? Or is there a problem with your browser? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:40, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Haven't yet. I will go and ask there now. Arctic Kangaroo 04:07, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Nav Box for user page sub pages??

I have asked this on my talk page but like to get a second opinion about user created navigational boxes for User prefixed pages like User:Sundogs/World Championship Wrestling, User:Sundogs/Jason Bourne, and vast amount of Jason Bourne related topics like novels, character bio, and movies. I am attending to the navigational box template strictly to be used for these user sub pages at the bottom so that other user can access them from said sub page. Is this allowed? Sundogs ^{Wikia UserPage} 00:42, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

User Talk Page Archives

The two new user talk archives that I have created seems half done. I mean, Archive 6 shows up in the Archive bar but not Archive 7. They were timestamped and 00:02 and 00:03 UTC-6 (US Central Time) and I don't know to have Archive 7 to be brought up. I have cleared my history and cookies. I have also to ALT + F5 to hard refresh and both don't seem to help. Will Archive 7 be available to see on the next new day or next time the refresh of Wikipedia sets of 00:00 UTC-0 or on my time 00:00 UTC-6? Sundogs ^{Wikia UserPage} 23:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I see "Archives 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7". Perhaps it was a caching issue where it took a moment. If you're still not seeing them all, then there is something "stuck" on your end. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 00:04, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I see 1 through 6 but 7 is not showing. I cached out everything imagebale that I think of (note to wise I have 26 years experience on a computer and still learning new tricks). Called IT department and say it's Wikipedia end problem since all network computers have same issue. Sundogs ^{Wikia UserPage} 00:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Finally found what the cause is, the cache within the page was not registering. What I mean by that is, it was definitely was Wikipedia not caching the page accordingly. So, this issue is solved. Sundogs ^{Wikia UserPage} 01:33, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

New proposals. How do you do it?

I recently had my Olympic results index accepted and I'm using it all the time. I would like to create more articles of a similar nature but I'm having some misgivings. Does anyone think that there could be a new area of Wikipedia for articles such as this with the generic name of Index, which would provide a different group of articles than is available with the Category idea? I would love to turn this into a proposal but there doesn't seem to be a WP:Proposals sector. Jodosma (talk) 21:14, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

The village pump, which you linked to above, would be the right place for a proposal. FrigidNinja 21:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Confused about what I can do about an article which has been removed.

I had an article removed some time ago by an editor called User:Fastily (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs). I am an actress (Caroline Strong (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)) and an entry in my name had numerous inaccuracies.I am hopeless with technology and did not know the rules of Wikipedia and I think when I corrected and updated the page and added a production I had just finished filming, it was judged as unambiguous advertising. This was not my intention. I contacted Fastily but got no reply and I gave up, this was in 2011. Recently it was drawn to my attention that my name comes up in numerous entries but always in red and when the name is clicked the judgement for deletion is still given. I am quite distressed that this casts mein a poor light through no fault of my own, other than unfamiliarity with procedure. If people are interested in my work they can access information via IMBD, my home page,my agent, spotlight and even Corriepedia, so I don't need to have this entry in the first place. How can I have this link removed so that I do not carry the stigma of this judgement? Please advise. Many thanks in anticipation. Caroline Strong.77.98.160.136 (talk) 14:13, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll research this issue for you. I'll respond in more detail shortly. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 14:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Okay, I'm looking at what links there, and I see 14 pages (This discussion, nine user pages[one of them was someone asking why content was removed from the article and eight of them were notifications of edits that were removed as unproductive (two of which were by Cluebot), two of them seem to be punch-lists of editors that are trying to populate or at very least keep track of who's who in those productions.], and four actual articles [List of The Bill cast members, Change at Oglethorpe, List of past Coronation Street characters, List of Emmerdale characters (2007)]). As far as the content of the links, they are simply contained in list of characters (of which many are red links). I'll poke around and see if I can get your deleted article moved to my userspace as a {{Userspace draft}} and neutralize the wording so that it meets the standards of Wikipedia (Writ, you're an admin, right? Can you move the deleted content to User:Technical_13/Drafts/Caroline Strong for me, please? As far as trying to contact Fastily, that user has marked themselves as {{Retired}} and I don't foresee contacting them possible. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 14:52, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Done; since that doesn't remove the G11 deletion message from the page, I've also removed the wikilinks from the four main articles. Writ Keeper (t + c) 15:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Caroline, welcome to the Teahouse! You can find a list of all the "caroline Strong" links here. At this point, the easiest thing to do is probably to just remove the links; I'll go ahead and do that for you, since it shouldn't really be that big a deal. Unfortunately, the deletion logs are in practice immutable, so there's nothing we can really do about the message itself. I hope this is enough; if you have any other requests, please ask. Writ Keeper (t + c) 14:46, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

• Okay... I think I know why it was deleted now... It was very poorly formated. Caroline, If you could respond to me on User_talk:Technical_13/Drafts/Caroline_Strong I have some simple questions I would like to ask you. Things like, is there a particular fair-use image of yourself on the web somewhere that you like (and would like to represent you) or could you upload one for me? Thanks — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 15:27, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you for trying to help me. I don't quite understand what you have done, but it is just good to know that someone is trying to rectify the situation on my behalf. I know that maybe it can't be sorted fully, but at least I don't feel so helpless. It is not a good feeling to have your actions mis judged in that way. But I have learned two lessons, that I should stay away from technology and not mind so much if people write inaccurate things about me. Next time I will just let it be, even if someone says I have fifteen kids and did the voice for Homer Simpson. Thanks again. i appreciate the effort. Caroline.X 77.98.160.136 (talk) 16:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

That's fine, I don't mind at all... Take a look at User:Technical_13/Drafts/Caroline_Strong and then check out my list of questions for you at User_talk:Technical_13/Drafts/Caroline_Strong. I'm mostly asking for sources of accurate information so that I can build an un-biased accurate article for you. The problem with the way the page use to read (already took a chunk out of about 30% of the poor formatting) was the use of ALL CAPS, lack of internally linked sources, and external references^[1] to name a few of the problems with the old article. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 16:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello again. I did try to filling in your questions but I can't get it to take my answers. I was able to get on the page itself and have put in that I am Caroline Strong (III) on IMDB, taken out as many mistakes as I could see, although I don't know how it should be formatted and it is obviously badly done anyway. To be honest I don't really want the article at all, I just wanted to have the ambiguous advertising bit removed. I think that would be easier as I am struggling a bit on my sons computor, just to get replies back to you and as for sending a photo I wouldn't know where to start! So sorry. Cx 77.98.160.136 (talk) 16:57, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

The only way that I know of to make the previous deletion (and reason for) hidden from a page is to post a new, acceptable article. You may put your answers right on the page if you want... I'll move the questions over. That isn't a problem being it is a {{Userspace draft}}. If the previous deletion is allowed to be hidden on Wikipedia (which I doubt severely), please correct me Writ. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 17:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi again, User technical 13. I am being a bit pathetic, when you are trying so hard to help. I will give you as many of the answers as I can this way, because I am still unable to fill in your list. I am Caroline Strong (III) on IMDB, I have only been nominated for a Radio Times, Radio Comedy Award. I represented by David Daly Associates, the link you have to my own Home Page is correct and to my page on Corriepedia. I don't know what the link would be to Spotlight but there is a direct link to my spotlight page from my agents web site anyway. As for a photo, the b/w on IMDB is by Michael Pollard the colour one on Corriepedia is from ITV publicity and they are happy for me to use it. I hope all this helps and I am sorry I am such a ludite. My lack of technical know how is legend! I appreciate you are trying to re-instate the article and I imagine this is the only way to overcome my problem, so I am sorry if I was becoming a bit defeatist. Thankyou again for all your efforts.Cx 77.98.160.136 (talk) 17:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

User Technical 13, I will have to sign off for a bit and let my son have his computer back. Thankyou again for all you are trying to do and I will come back to the tea house as soon as he is finished.Cx77.98.160.136 (talk) 18:06, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Which Notre_Dame_High_School#United_Kingdom did you attend so i can link to the correct one?? — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 18:08, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I went to Notre Dame Prep School and High School Woolton, Liverpool.The High School later became St Julie's.77.98.160.136 (talk) 20:17, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

As you were born in Liverpool, that is probably to be expected ;) However, I hope Technical 13 realises the article will need to be sourced to something that is more reliable than a chat on a Wikipedia Talk page. Articles (particularly about living people ...like yourself) must be sourced to reliable published material. If you want to avoid the article being deleted again, it would be better to tell Technical 13 where reliable published news articles (etc.) about your career can be found. Sionk (talk) 01:50, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I'm aware of that Sionk, see User_talk:Technical_13/Drafts/Caroline_Strong for this list of sources I will be using to verify and re-work the article... Once I get the old atrocious formatting cleaned up and find the correct links to all of the on-wiki resources. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 11:34, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

That's what I was afraid of. Neither Caroline's website, her agent's website, or Corriopedia are independent, reliable sources. And IMDb only has limited uses for verification purposes. It is one of the basics of Wikipedia that 'notability' needs to be established first. There needs to be convincing proof, at least, that she has "had significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions." Sionk (talk) 12:51, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Them of themselves are not up to standards of "reliability", but they offer enough other links that are. Just like Wikipedia is not a "reliable" source for a research paper to "most" college professors, but the links to the sources are. . No worries... The page will be reliable before it is requested to be reviewed and moved into article. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 13:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

I have just returned to the teahouse and would like to re-iterate that I have no interest in having an article on Wikipedia in the first place. Sionk, I hope that is correct, is probably correct in suggesting that I am not notable enough to have an article. What I wanted. was to have tha remarks about the original removal of the artcle (unambiguous advertising) deleated, as this was not the case, as I have explained. I have very little control over what is written by contributors and absolutely no technical skills myself. I wish I had, as contributors also have the luxury of anonymity. It has taken me two years to pluck up the courage to rectify this situation and now I wish I hadn't. To Technical 13 I would like to thank you again for attempting to resolve this situation (I think you have appreciated how distressing it has been for me) but I get the sense that you are fighting a losing battle. Leave it as it is, I can live with it. Cxx77.98.160.136 (talk) 16:43, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Infobox

How can I add Infobox? Please explain simply. If possible, respond in my talk page.Sureshkumarmalayil (talk) 12:23, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the TeaHouse! Hosts have to respond here so that the answers to the questions end up in the archives. The easiest way to find an appropriate infobox is to search "template:infobox ______". (Without scare quotes, replace ___ with the subject you want an infobox for). Thanks! — nerdfighter 13:12, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you all for your help. I am sorry but I really am rubbish with technology and very grateful that people who know what it is all about are on the case. I have learnt a lesson though, which is not to get involved with computors and not to mind so much when people write inaccurate things. It was the unambiguous advertising judgement that upset me, because it was not my intention to be advertising and I felt frustrated that I couldn't explain that to Fastily. Anyway I am not really sure what you have done but I am very grateful for your efforts. If it can't be fully rectified at least someone has tried on my behalf and I don't feel so helpless. Cx77.98.160.136 (talk) 15:45, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Can someone please help me revise my article so it doesn't get deleted again?

My page was deleted because supposedly the information contained did not have reliable sources. I appealed the deletion, and eventually Mark Arsten moved it to my userspace so I could revise it to meet the standards of Wikipedia. Unfortunately I am totally lost when it comes to editing pages and articles, as well as what constitutes "reliable sources", etc. Is there a benevolent Tea House soul willing and able to help me get my page in shape so it will be acceptable to the powers that be? I have reviewed several pages about composer colleagues of mine spanning Game Audio, Television, Motion Pictures, etc., and I see no difference between what was on my page and theirs. I don't fully understand the WP:COI guidelines or the WP:DRV, and I am not convinced that I know how to go about doing this so my page won't be flagged and deleted again.

Here is a link to Mark Arsen's talk page that details our discussion:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Mark_Arsten#April_Fools

I would truly appreciate it.

Best,

-Robert (Raaudioinc (talk) 08:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC))

Hi Robert. The reality is that not all subjects can meet our inclusion policies and please understand that the existence of other articles which seem to be similarly situated but not yet deleted is irrelevant. There are thousands of article on Wikipedia which should not be but haven't been deleted yet. See by way of analogy What about article x? Having just conducted a search (of Google Books and News Archive) I was unable to locate any independent reliable secondary sources discussing you in detail and really you would know better than us where to look since most people follow what is written about themselves in the media. Being the person who would likely best know what sources exist, the links you posted on Mark Arsten's page, all being sources that are not reliable, not independent or both, indicates those source do not exist (at least not yet in your career). What we are looking for are publications in sources completely independent of the subject and anyone connected to the subject, that have a reputation for fact checking and accuracy and have written about the subject substantively (not just a passing mention). So, major newspapers, widely-published books, high-quality generally trusted mainstream publications that treat the subject in detail. Not blogs, MySpace, Facebook, LinkedIn, YouTube, fansites, Twitter, wikis, some person on some website, or any site with user-generated content. Hopefully, now, you understand the types of sources we look for. If there aren't sufficient reliable third-party sources to be be found on a topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:24, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I decided to appeal on my discussion regarding the changes or deleting the information on Pilipinas Got Talent Season 4. The problem here is the lack of reliable sources and I based only on facts straight from the television. I hope that you consider my appeal. Thanks a lot! JonathanDiesta (talk) 03:12, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

How can I get my saved data back and am I blocked from editing my page?

HI new here and I was working on editing an article but someone keep undoing my work. (7,577 bytes) (-8,837)‎ . . I know I cant do my editing. I can't find my saving. and this is the message I go from the other editor (( Sorry, before adding new information, do not change the standard style of the layout, I have save new information, later work on it.. (TW)) (undo).

Is the (TW) function to block me from working on the page, and how can I unblock myself and get me data back? Demakaz (talk) 02:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Demakaz. I see there is a discussion at Talk:Ingrid Mattson which discusses this. I see that at least one other editor has stepped forward to volunteer to help you properly integrate the information you have added to the article. It seems that the issue is that many of your changes have messed up the formatting and style of the page, and have made it so that it isn't compliant with Wikipedia:Manual of style. I would take that editor at his word; he says he needs some time to go over your additions and clean them up. Just give them some time to work, and see what they come up with. Patience here is the key, especially where someone has come forward and offered to help. Your edits have not been lost, you can find them if you look at the history of the article in question. You also have not been blocked from anything, but someone has asked you nicely to give them a chance to look over what you added so they can work on it and help it become even better. Just wait a few days and see if Justice007 can't help clean up your additions. I hope that helps! --Jayron32 02:48, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey there, welcome to the Teahouse! The TW just means they used a tool called "Twinkle" to make the change. The edit you made is still available here, but I'd suggest you consider using more reliable sources, and more neutral terms if you plan to make the edit again. You may just wish to continue discussing it on the talkpage, which I see you're already doing :) gwickwire^talk_editing 02:44, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for answering my question and I trust that the other editor will help me, but I was trying to learn things on my own.Demakaz (talk) 02:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Adding pictures and other media

Hi guys, hope this meets you well?

I basically would like to know the exact procedure for adding pictures and other media into the archives/commons. I have read the help files and I uploaded some pictures but they got deleted.

I would basically like to know if pictures are allowed if they are anywhere else on the web even if I have a consent to use them. Do I need some way of proving that I have the consent to use those pictures?

What do I do also when the picture was taken personally? How do I prove that? Do I just write it in the description?

Thanks and kind regards

LOVE (talk) 01:42, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello Toludpilgrim, and welcome! Yes, if the picture you are uploading was published previously on the web prior to you uploading it at either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons, you do need to prove that it is your picture, and that you do have permission to license it for use. Make sure, first of all, that you understand the implications of licensing your pictures under the cc-by-sa and GFDL licenses. The basic premise is that, while you still own the copyright on the pictures, you are agreeing to allow others to copy your pictures and reuse them as they wish, so long as they correctly attribute you and also use the licenses themselves. If you're still OK with that, procedures for proving your ownership of the copyright on previously published pictures can be found by following the shortcut WP:IOWN (for a short set of instructions) or Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials for a longer more detailed set of instructions. Rather than copy that information, I'll let you read those two pages yourself. If you have any further specific questions, or if something about those is unclear, please feel free to ask for further clarification. Does that help? --Jayron32 01:59, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Oh, also if you're uploading a picture you have just taken yourself, and have never previously published, you can do so at http://commons.wikimedia.org . Use the standard Commons uploading procedure, that is just fill in all the blanks and it walks you through the process. Make sure you select the correct license tags, and clearly identify that you took the picture yourself, and fill out all of the relevant information, and that should be it. --Jayron32 02:02, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Jayron,

LOVE (talk) 23:50, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Gossip/Opinion columns on the Wiki

I have just left my comments on the talk page of THIS article. Are we to allow this sort of stuff? What has leaving opinions to do with Wikipedia? For myself I don't believe The Clash deserve such massive attention. If this is the kind of thing Wikipedia stands for then I may well retire from any future participation Jodosma (talk) 21:57, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Jodosma, are you talking about the section on genres? The questions posed are not asking for opinions about the merit/quality of the songs but what musical genre each song belongs to. Believe it or not, the genre songs and musicians should be assigned to is one of the more contentious issues found on wikipedia. I think the purpose of the wikiproject page you are looking at is somewhere to discuss this in relation to the music of the Clash rather than it become an Wikipedia:edit war on article pages.

Music articles aren't anywhere high on my list of interests either but with over 4,000,000 articles on Wikipedia to chose from, it's easy to ignore those areas that don't take your fancy and concentrate on those areas that you do find interesting. NtheP (talk) 22:14, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

In case it not clear (it was not to me initially) the question is about a project page, not a Wikipedia main space article. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 22:19, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I think I can cool off a bit now and concentrate on more interesting things. Ciao. Jodosma (talk) 22:26, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

References do NOT post with my draft article

My submission contains dozens of references, but they do not copy to the page when I post the article for review. Thus, it looks like I have no support. Nothing could be further from the truth. Filmian (talk) 20:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)Filmian

Moved from bottom — nerdfighter 20:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I suggest that you read WP:Referencing for beginners. - David Biddulph (talk) 20:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Wizard for events

The wizard for biographies states that someone who is notable only for a single action should be referenced in an event article. I did not find a wizard for creating an event article.

The specific person is "Ron White (memory_expert), USA Memory Champion in 2009 and 2010" on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_White_(disambiguation) . Should there be a biography or simply an reference in an event article?

http://mnemotechnics.org/wiki/Ron_White http://www.ronwhitetraining.com/about-ron-white-memory-expert http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/03/01/4652849/memory-champion-ron-white-honors.html Cwhii (talk) 15:34, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Ron White looks like an interesting character. Since some of the articles about him that you presented are not related to the event, but to his other notable tasks, I think a good case can be made that he should have a biographical article, rather than simply being named in the event article. I hope that's helpful! Keihatsu ^talk 19:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Descretionary Sanctions template

Hi, regarding this talk page tag which appears at Transcendental Meditation talk:

• At present it only appears on the talk page of the one, main article (above). Would it be proper and useful for me to add it to the talk pages of other articles in the topic area? I like to do it but don't know what the protocol is on this. I notice that the Abortion topic has it on multiple talk pages within the topic area.
• I could not find any info about this at WP:TEMPLATE and when I posted this question on one of the ArbCom clerks talk page, he/she did not respond. Does anyone know about this? Thanks, — Keithbob • Talk • 15:04, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I would ask again with arbcom and let them know this has been brought up here. I feel this may not be appropriate to add to any article that does not have the actual warning. I know that doesn't sound fair , but it could be seen as inappropriate to others. But I will say...you deserve a Teahouse badge for this excellent question!--Amadscientist (talk) 15:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello and Welcome to the Teahouse. Wow, we don't often get ArbCom related questions here. I would ask ArbCom formally at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Clarification and Amendment as your question involves a clarification over the results of one of their rulings. In general, it's a bad idea to modify the results of an ArbCom decision unilaterally, so by asking for a clarification you can find out if the non-placement of the tag at other articles was an oversight or deliberate. Otherwise, it's best not to change anything without an ArbCom statement. The ArbCom pages are a bit arcane, so if you need any help filing a formal Request for Clarification, let us know here and we'll try to help you work through the technical issues. Does that help? --Jayron32 15:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Great answer Jayron, (and thank you Amadscientist too!) I'll post a note at RCA as you suggested. Good idea!-- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:29, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

PS I've noticed that the caliber of editors here is very high and its a good place to get any kind of info whether one is a beginner or an advanced editor. Hat's off to all the knowledgeable and helpful editors here!! -- — Keithbob • Talk • 15:31, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Problems with Citations in Matthew Locricchio article

This is my first article. I've struggled to correct the errors noted: improper formatting of inline citations, unclear citation style, bare URLs for citations. I'd be grateful for any specific help.

Richard RichardKFarley (talk) 14:25, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

• Hey Richard and welcome to the Teahouse! As for the formatting of inline citations, I think you are doing all right there...that basically means that you add a citation next to what it substantiates. The bare URLs means that, when citing web sources, you only put the URL, not other information such as the author, publisher, date of access, date of publication, etc. There is a really easy way you can do full citations. I the main editing interface, there are four tabs: advanced, special characters, help, and cite. Choose cite and then click on the drop down menu of templates selecting web. Input the information, click insert, save the page, and you have a well-formatted citation. The unclear citation style is roughly the same thing. I hope this helps, if not, let me know and I can fix one of them for you, so you can get an example. Thanks, and happy editing! Go Phightins! 14:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Contacting a user by eMail

Hello, I would like to know how to tell if a user has an eMail account, and if so how to display it, to send a private message? Vicentealvarez2 (talk) 14:07, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Vincente and welcome to the Teahouse. Some users have email enabled, some do not. If you want to see if a user does, go to their user page, and then look in the "toolbox" on the left hand side of the screen under the Wikipedia logo and links to the main page, etc. and see if you have the option to "email this user". If you do, then you can email them, if not, then they do not have email enabled. Go Phightins! 14:10, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the prompt response, and sorry for re-asking, I just noticed it was in the archives. Still learning... Vicentealvarez2 (talk) 14:12, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome, and no problem at all. Feel free to drop by any time you have any questions. Happy editing! Go Phightins! 14:15, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hodopathy

I had created an article on hodopathy,a type of alternative medicine originating in Jharkand,it made no reference to any compan but was speedily deleted under G11?.why?.The article mad no reference to any company and had sources and citations....Uncletomwood (talk) 12:50, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Tom. Perhaps you could ask the deleting administrator to provide a copy of the article in your userspace so I can take a look and try to help you out. Writ Keeper! Are you out there? Nthep, in two days, are you out there ! We'll try to take a look and help you out Tom. Thanks. Your future adopter (see the note I left you on my talk), Go Phightins! 12:56, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Without being able to see the content of the article, I can not tell you. However, what I may suggest is that you re-create your article in your userspace, possibly here, and at the very top of the page, include {{Userspace draft}}. I would be happy to look at it and make some suggestions. If there is nothing wrong with the article, you could then request it be moved to the proper page name. — User:Technical 13   ( C • M • Click to learn how to view this signature as intended ) 13:00, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Still can't use STiki

Hi, I have downloaded Java software required for STiki. But when I open the *JAR file, Internet Explorer is opened and a popup asks me whether I want to "Open" or "Save as". However, whiochever button I click, I still can't use STiki, although Java is asking to run. Then, when I tried to open with Google Chrome, which I usually use for my browser, a note at the bottom of the screen tells me that opening this kind of file may harm my computer. What's wrong with this whole thing? Arctic Kangaroo 14:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey :) STiki is a .jar file, which is what is known as a "java applet". For this reason, you need not only the internet java, but the java runtime environment in order to run it. Google that and you should find it. That's also probably (if you don't have that installed) why you get the error/warning messages, although the Chrome warning is because Chrome does that the first time you open any .exe, .jar, or similar file that is often malicious :) gwickwire^talk_editing 15:00, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

But is it safe to use this STiki on Chrome and ignore the warning message? Arctic Kangaroo 15:32, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I'd say it is totally safe to try (I've opened it quite a bit in my day), but you may need the java runtime environment for it to work :) I can say there's no malware etc. on it, that's just a Chrome standard .exe/.jar warning. gwickwire^talk_editing 15:43, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

If you haven't installed Java, choose the offline installer at here. --Ushau97 ^talk 15:55, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Ushau97: I installed the online version. So, do you mean that actually the offline version is needed for STiki? Arctic Kangaroo 06:28, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

No, that's not how that works. Either way you install offline or online, the same software is installed. Normally, offline installers are more reliable than online installers. That is the reason why I said so. If you are still not able to access STiki, let me tell you how to do it from A to Z. First, if you have installed Java uninstall it completely. Install Java using the offline installer. A notice will appear whether you want to download it or not. Don't worry that notice will come up since it is an exe file. Java Runtime Environment is a very common software, so you can be sure that it is completely harmless. After the download is complete, install it. just press next. When the installation is complete, reboot your PC. This is not mandatory, however just to be on the safe side. Then you could download STiki from here. After that extract the ZIP file. Then open the JAR file inside the folder. That's it. If any problem comes up, let me know. --Ushau97 ^talk 09:08, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

I have done the above you mentioned, but when I open the JAR file, Internet Explorer opens and asks me if I want to open, save or save as. Whatever I click, then this download log screen will appear. Then, I still can't open it. Is it because my Internet Explorer version is IE9? And also, if I try to use Chrome, I click "Keep" at the bottom note, but they will redirect me to IE. Arctic Kangaroo 02:26, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I think I have figured out the problem. When you double click the JAR file, the file is opened with IE, right? If so, the problem in your system is, the program associated with JAR files is IE. IE can't open JAR files, so what you have to do is change the program which opens JAR files to Java SE Binary. This is very easy. Just right-click on the JAR file and click on Properties. Then in the Properties window, in the General tab you'll find a button labelled Changed.... Press on it and a dialog box named Open with with will come up. From there you'll find a program named Java(TM) Platform SE binary. Double click on it and press OK in the Properties window. Now open STiki. Hopefully, you'll be able to open it. Cheers! --Ushau97 ^talk 06:30, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm...do I need to download Java SE Binary? And, in the General tab, there isn't any Change button. Could it be because I'm using Windows Vista? Arctic Kangaroo 06:40, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

You have already downloaded and installed Java, right? If so, you don't need to repeat it. This is how you change default programs in Vista. Type in default programs into Start. Click on Default Programs. On the window that comes up, click on Associate a file type or protocol with a program. I'm not sure of the exact wording in Vista, so click on the one nearest to this wording. Wait for sometime until all the extensions are loaded. From there, click on .jar. Click on the Change program button. From there you'll find Java(TM) Platform SE binary. Double click on it. Done. --Ushau97 ^talk 06:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

I managed to complete the above-mentioned steps. But when I wanted to open the JAR file, which now says that it would be opened with Java(TM) Platform SE binary, a window (should be STiki) popped up and then closed. Then, I tried to open it again but the same thing happened. Any idea about this? Arctic Kangaroo 06:59, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Sorry. I dunno about that. Try downloading STiki again. --Ushau97 ^talk 07:04, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Can I...?

I think I've been asking myself this question since I discovered Wikipedia, and some of my friends have asking me that too. Can I use Wikipedia's given infirmation in another site?? Miss Bono (talk) 12:28, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely, but you must provide attribution to Wikipedia's authors when you do so. Please see Wikipedia:Reusing Wikipedia content. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:41, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Generally providing a link to the article history from the point of the last edit when you post the article is considered proper attribution I believe.--Amadscientist (talk) 00:27, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Would you mind re-phrasing that please, with some punctuation - I'm having trouble de-cyphering it. !\) Jodosma (talk) 18:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Providing a link to the revision you used, is considered proper attribution (I believe). — nerdfighter 19:18, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

What's wrong with my articles?

Hi, I've recently created 2 articles - biography about living researcher. One is in English Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasa_Levickait%C4%97, another is in Lithuanian: http://lt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasa_Levickaitė. I've been editing it ever since, but different messages still appear, that articles need to be fixed. I've read guidelines for biographies and as far as I understand,articles meet all the requirements. Could you please help me and tell what is exactly wrong with my articles? Because I run out of ideas, what else should I fix... And one more thing – I can’t find a place where to edit copyright information about this file Rasa Levickaite.JPG Sabinasvanba (talk) 07:19, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! There are three major issues with the article Rasa Levickaitė. First issue is that the article does not meet Wikipedia's notability guideline for biographies. Notability is a guideline which all Wikipedia articles should follow. A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has received significant coverage in reliable secondary sources that are independent of the subject. I did a Google search and only about 1640 results came up, so I can't say that the subject of the article is not notable enough. However with that I can't conclude. There might be offline sources. If you have any of them please do add them to the article. There is not much you can do with the notability of the subject.

Second problem with the article is that the article does not have enough categories. As of now, the article has only two categories. Please categorize the article more specifically so that readers can browse related articles easily and quickly. You can find related categories by doing a search in Wikipedia in the category namespace. You do it like this: Go to Special:Search and press Advanced. Then select Category and type in the related keywords and press Search.

Third problem with Rasa Levickaitė article is that the article is an orphan article. An orphan article means that it is an article with no links from other pages in the main article namespace. If you go to Special:WhatLinksHere/Rasa_Levickaitė you'll find that no article links to Rasa Levickaitė. You can fix it by going to related articles and linking to Rasa Levickaitė where necessary. I did a search and the only thing which comes up is the article itself. So if you can think of another article that is related to Rasa Levickaitė, please do link it so that the tag can be removed. Happy editing! --Ushau97 ^talk 09:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

To edit the file, go to File:Rasa Levickaite.JPG and press edit as you Edit other pages. And replace {{di-no source no license|date=25 March 2013}} with an appropriate tag listed at WP:ICTIC. For more information see WP:UPI. --Ushau97 ^talk 10:23, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I don't know whether or not I'm allowed to comment here, but lt:File:Rasa Levickaite.JPG says that it's in the public domain. It is the same file as File:Rasa_Levickaite.JPG on the English Wikipedia. πr² (t • c) 03:01, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Copyright Dilemma

I have a book which was published in 1905 in the UK. The author died in 1928 so by UK copyright law, because it is over 70 years since the author's death the original work is no longer copyright protected. But my copy is a facsimile, published in 1993. As I understand it, a facsimile is a replica (or exact copy) of the original work, so that the facsimile is not copyright protected, therefore I am allowed to reproduce any part of this book (including diagrams) without fear of prosecution (for instance by using Wikipedia's own editing facilities). I think I'm on safe ground here but I would appreciate a confirmation from anyone out there who knows about this sort of thing. Jodosma (talk) 20:19, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse! My instinct is that you would be OK, but I am also not a copyright expert. Nthep, are you out there? We'll get you an answer sooner or later :) Go Phightins! 20:21, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Though for clarity, what exactly do you want to do with it? You can certainly cite it. As for the diagrams, that is what I am unsure of. Go Phightins! 20:22, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I went to the "confirmed" link in your message. I hope that goes through. I appreciate the quick reply.

I'm amazed at all the wikipedia has to offer! I wish I had created an account long ago. Tamielutz (talk) 21:00, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Jodosma, under UK copyright law, the copyright on the book expired on 31 December 1988 (the end of the year the author died plus 70 years) therefore the content is out of copyright. With regard to the reproduction copy what you need to be certain of is that it is a facsimile reproduction and reuses the typographical layout from the 1905 edition. If it does then you can reproduce that text and images etc using the typographical layout from the book, for example you could scan pages of the book and upload them as the typographical arrangement is not new.([3]) If however the 1993 publication has re-typeset the content then that does introduce a new copyright of 25 years on the typographical arrangement only ([4]) and although you could reproduce the content you could not use a scan of the page. You also need to remember that if the facsimile edition contains any new additional content such as an introduction from the re-publisher that new content is copyright and belongs to the re-publisher. For example if I had just (2013) published a new edition of Shakespeare's Richard III you are welcome to use my book to copy out "Now is the winter of our discontent, made glorious summer by this sun of York ..." but you can't use a scan of that page from my book because I own the copyright on the typography until the end of 2038 (publication plus 25 years) and any new introduction is copyright until I have been dead 75 years. Hope this helps but please ask for clarification if anything is unclear. NtheP (talk) 21:39, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Told you Nthep would help us out Go Phightins! 21:44, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Hey Jodosma. One additional issue is that attribution is still required. Even if some text, image, diagram, map, etc. is in the public domain, you must still provide attribution to the source to avoid plagiarism. For example, if I take a paragraph of text from a pre-1923 published U.S. book, that text is public domain and thus using it is not (and cannot) be copyright infringement, but my use without attribution to the source, thus not telling the reader "this comes from somewhere else" and thereby implying it is my original work, is plagiarism. For a diagram, assuming that it is one containing sufficiently creative content (some diagrams may be so plain and obvious that neither copyright [nor plagiarism] would apply; see Threshold of originality) you can use it but must provide attribution by some method, such as through an inline citation, in-text attribution, or both. As a working example, in writing Masako Katsura I redrew a chart and provided both in-text attribution and a citation. See Masako Katsura#Detail of play. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:21, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thankyou for all your contributions, much appreciated, I think I'm in the picture now ('scuse the pun), and on safe ground. In case you want to see it the diagram I'm using is of a family tree of the de Lacy's which I intend to put in Pontefract I won't use a scan of the page because the quality isn't good enough but instead I'm using the Wiki template to produce it. If you want to see it please click here. Jodosma (talk) 19:23, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Donghak Peasant Revolution

Donghak Peasant Revolution has been edited only by me, bots, and AWB for over three months. How come nobody helps me out? This has really discouraged my edits, as you can see - my edits per day on the article has been declining. Can WP really succeed? I thought so before this.--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 07:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Seonookim, have you tried asking at the relevant Wikiprojects for help? For example, try asking at the Military History or Korea Wikiprojects. I'm pretty sure the folks over there would be happy to help or at least offer some advice, particularly if you intend to take the article to Good Article status or higher. You seem to have done quite well so far. Chamal ^T•C 06:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Off topic, your signature is a good one! But you can change it to something simple like Example (Talk) --Tito Dutta (contact) 15:23, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

If anyone has time, I would prefer it if all the refs were cleaned up through {{cite book}}.--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 07:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Also, I followed Chamal's advice, but only a single editor edited.--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 07:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I have changed many plain references to cite book template. Hope this will encourage you to improve the article. --Ushau97 ^talk 18:15, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! But Yi Yihwa's book was the same with Donghak Peasant Revolution:A Revolution of Freedom and Equality. But I guess it's my fault you didn't get that.--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 07:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Hehe. I am not familiar with Korean names. That is the reason why I left out some refs without changing to cite book. I didn't know whether it was the publisher or name of the author in some cases :P . By the way, have you ever thought of listing it at WP:GAN. Since you worked so hard on it, if it meets WP:GACR, it might get good article status. Thanks --Ushau97 ^talk 10:05, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

I'll fill in more using this link. If you'd like to contribute, here.--Seonookim (What I've done so far) (I'm busy here) (Tell me your requests) 06:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

How can I contribute Mt. Everest page?

I would like to contribute on Mt. Everest page i.e. add records - 'First women to ascent Mt. Everest twice in a week'

How can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by S2 krish (talk • contribs) 05:19, 1 April 2013 (UTC)