Talk:Barack Obama

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Filmography

Is there a reason we don't have an article on Obama's filmography? With the release of 'Pitch Perfect 2', I went to see if it had been added to his filmography, and we don't have that article at all. --ID man12 ID (talk) 17:33, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

AFAIK, cameos aren't usually listed if the person is not already an actor. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 17:39, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

What about shows on which he's appeared as a guest, rather than cameos? --ID man12 ID (talk) 23:40, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

Oh, sure. Definitely. And lets be sure not to overlook all his televised press conferences, speeches to the American public, and those seven ratings blockbuster State of the Union Addresses. 2600:1006:B14D:A3C0:B945:D20A:9451:85D (talk) 00:29, 13 June 2015 (UTC)

Besides (what I assume to be) the sarcastic comment above, is there any consensus on this? --ID man12 ID (talk) 21:33, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

AFAIKT, his two predecessors don´t have a "filmography" section, that could be a hint of probable consensus (personally I think it´s not suitable for the main article). However, at the bottom of the Obama-article is a template with dozens of WP-Obama articles, including a section called "Public image". There I find Barack Obama in comics, so you could probably create a Barack Obama in Film and TV or something like that, and link it in that template. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:40, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

Or put something in the "Popular culture" section of Public image of Barack Obama. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 13:50, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

I would describe this as "not biographically significant". Generally speaking, it is only worth inclusion if the mainstream media has given such things extensive media coverage. -- Scjessey (talk) 18:58, 22 June 2015 (UTC)

See FAQ #2
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
He's not an African American president racial-wise He's actually the first mixed race president. Are we going with his racial identity instead if his actual races here? If so, state racial identity-wise he's the first black American president, but he's racially the first mixed race president (that is, significantly mixed and not like 1/20 black like a few other presidents may be). If not, hop off of the bandwagon and stop calling his race just black. Black people don't have a white parent and it's disrespectful to his white family to call him black. Obama identifying as black is like disowning in his mother and her side of his family. If you're calling him black based on his phenotype, however, I'd say yes; he looks more black than white, so it should be stated that he is phenotypically black and racial-identity wise black, but ancestry-wise and racially, he's mixed race. I expect better of Wikipedia. We must stick to the facts and not popular opinion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.39.57 (talk) 22:03, 27 June 2015 (UTC) I don't know that I will comment on this with my own view, but it might be worth reading Q2 of the above FAQ. Dustin (talk) 22:08, 27 June 2015 (UTC) Interesting topic proposed in this section, but in my humble opinion, although Blacks often say they are "African-American," doesn't a mother from America and a father from Africa make one African-American in its proper and literal sense? If that is the case, I believe the term is, in fact, best described for the current U.S. President. Conspirasee1 (talk) 02:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC) This has been discussed at great length, and is explained above in FAQ #2. Tvoz/talk 03:41, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

LGBT Paragraph

The second paragraph of the LGBT section has absolutely nothing to do with LGBT rights whatsoever.--Johnny 42 (talk) 23:42, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

You are absolutely right. Presumably some rearranging of things has occurred and that paragraph somehow got stuck in the wrong place. I'm not exactly sure where it is meant to be. -- Scjessey (talk) 13:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

This is the revision that originally added the headers and likely resulted in this minor paragraph/section mismatch. I have attempted to address the problem (my edit summary should say "Domestic policy", not "policies"). If you think another section is suitable, move the paragraph there. Dustin (talk) 14:50, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

Cuba

So, it's okay to write a section about the Iran nukes - but wrong to write on the historic thaw with Cuba? sounds to me like something with a political motives. I'm going to insert it back right after the re-opening of the embassies later this month. Archway (talk) 16:21, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

That's not very helpful. Please assume good faith. What specific material are you arguing should be included in the article? - Wikidemon (talk) 17:27, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

A small section which summarize the Cuba thaw, similar to the Iran deal one. Archway (talk) 18:49, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

That sounds reasonable, it is a significant event in his presidency that does appear to be his doing. Was anybody opposing it? - Wikidemon (talk) 21:51, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

I was asked to add something there, and so I've done. Pandeist (talk) 21:44, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 July 2015

President Obama is the first sitting United States Senator to be elected president since John Fitzgerald Kennedy.

2601:200:C100:52F4:2986:9E4E:888F:D626 (talk) 21:29, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Not done: No clear request made. Assumed request appears to be trivia. EvergreenFir (talk) Please {{re}} 21:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)

Clarification

Barak Obama is not the first African-American president. African-American denotes a group of people who are the ancestors of African slaves brought to the USA as slave laborers. Barak Obama is the first Black American president. He is not African-American, he is Kenyan-American. This needs to be corrected as it is historically incorrect and culturally offensive to the different nationalities that comprise the Black community in America. Yomij (talk) 23:58, 12 July 2015 (UTC)yomij

Obama is universally regarded as African American in the United States. You can open up the FAQ at the top of this page and take a look at Q2 regarding this issue. - Wikidemon (talk) 00:02, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

Iran Nuclear talks

I have substantially reworded the section on the Iran nuclear talks. Noting recentism, much of the previous content was, I felt, information that would not be particularly relevant in 10 years time. I tried to write it in a style that would make more sense in 10 years taking into account the unfolding events. I would like to acknowledge that contributions of the editors that I deleted. Thank you. Mozzie (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

I have added three references, but these are breaking news pieces. I hope they are replaced at some stage by more thorough analysis with will surely be carried out in the near future Mozzie (talk) 16:19, 14 July 2015 (UTC)

First president in prison

I think that it is an important and remarkable fact. My suggestion for the main article: Obama is the first sitting president in a prison. Ref. http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/17/us/obama-el-reno-oklahoma-prison.html?_r=0 Probably add also a picture from NYT: http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/07/17/us/17OBAMAWEBSUB/17OBAMAWEBSUB-superJumbo-v3.jpg .91.83.4.106 (talk) 23:13, 16 July 2015 (UTC)