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:::@[[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]], try some [[WP:Civility]]. The only frivolous/vexatious actions here is your 8-year-long run of creating categories without trying to populate them. In the case of this category, you didn't even bother to add the head article [[Bungo-Ōno]]: it was added[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bungo-%C5%8Dno,_%C5%8Cita&oldid=493648401] on by [[user:Good Olfactory|Good Ol'factory]] 9 hours after you created[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bungo-%C5%8Dno,_%C5%8Cita&oldid=493648401] the category.<br />That is not a one-off issue: I stumbled across this nest of [[WP:SMALLCAT]]s when my AWB run adding missing eponymous categories across all topics repeatedly found similar cases of missing eponcats for Japanese towns. Please drop the anger, sarcasm and personal attacks, and put your energies populating the categories the categories which which you created as mostly one-article categories. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 07:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC) |
:::@[[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]], try some [[WP:Civility]]. The only frivolous/vexatious actions here is your 8-year-long run of creating categories without trying to populate them. In the case of this category, you didn't even bother to add the head article [[Bungo-Ōno]]: it was added[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bungo-%C5%8Dno,_%C5%8Cita&oldid=493648401] on by [[user:Good Olfactory|Good Ol'factory]] 9 hours after you created[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Bungo-%C5%8Dno,_%C5%8Cita&oldid=493648401] the category.<br />That is not a one-off issue: I stumbled across this nest of [[WP:SMALLCAT]]s when my AWB run adding missing eponymous categories across all topics repeatedly found similar cases of missing eponcats for Japanese towns. Please drop the anger, sarcasm and personal attacks, and put your energies populating the categories the categories which which you created as mostly one-article categories. --[[User:BrownHairedGirl|<span style="font-variant:small-caps"><span style="color:#663200;">Brown</span>HairedGirl</span>]] <small>[[User talk:BrownHairedGirl|(talk)]] • ([[Special:Contributions/BrownHairedGirl|contribs]])</small> 07:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC) |
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:::* @[[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]], it is not useful to just mention articles that belong in the category in this discussion. Take your responsibility and actually add these articles to the category. (Which you should have done when you created the category.) [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 19:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC) |
:::* @[[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]], it is not useful to just mention articles that belong in the category in this discussion. Take your responsibility and actually add these articles to the category. (Which you should have done when you created the category.) [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 19:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC) |
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::::Please could you clarify how the save function works in terms of server storage space/requirements. For instance, say you have a town page of 100k and create ten new categories, adding in the categories one by one (each category addition being of c. 30 bytes); would you then have 1 mb of additional storage requirements or 300 bytes? Is it the diffs that are saved (and somehow combined when you load a page) or the new page in aggregate? Thanks, [[User:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|Maculosae tegmine lyncis]] ([[User talk:Maculosae tegmine lyncis|talk]]) 11:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' per 20 articles in the cat. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">投稿</span>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span>]]!</small> 18:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' per 20 articles in the cat. ···[[User:Nihonjoe|<span style="color:darkgreen;">日本穣</span>]] · <small>[[Special:Contributions/Nihonjoe|<span style="color:blue;">投稿</span>]] · [[User talk:Nihonjoe|Talk to Nihonjoe]] · [[WP:JA|<span style="color:maroon;">Join WP Japan</span>]]!</small> 18:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC) |
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* '''Keep but purge''', the two prefectural natural parks are not in the town. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 19:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC) |
* '''Keep but purge''', the two prefectural natural parks are not in the town. [[User:Marcocapelle|Marcocapelle]] ([[User talk:Marcocapelle|talk]]) 19:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC) |
Revision as of 11:18, 8 July 2020
July 2
Mid-Western Regional Council smallcats
- Propose merging:
- 2-page category
- 3-page categories
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Mid-Western Regional Council, New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion. They all currently contain 2 or 3 pages: the head article plus one or two others. I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:47, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Dubbo Regional Council smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Dubbo Regional Council, New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion. They all currently contain 2 pages: the head article plus one other. I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:48, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
City of Maitland smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the City of Maitland, New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion. They all currently contain one article. If the head article was added, that would still be only two. I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Kempsey Shire smallcats
- Propose merging:
- 2-page category
- 3-page categories
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Kempsey Shire of New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion. They all currently contain only head article plus two others (one in the case of Arakoon). I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:50, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Eugowra, New South Wales
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Eugowra and one other article. Both are already well-categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:51, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Bathurst Region smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Bathurst Region of New South Wales are are tiny, with little chance of expansion. They all currently have only two pages: head article plus one other. I haven't found any other articles to expand the categories.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Camden Council (New South Wales) smallcats
- Propose merging:
- 2-page categories
- Category:Camden South, New South Wales to Category:Camden Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Gledswood Hills, New South Wales to Category:Camden Council (New South Wales)
- 3-page categories
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small places in the Camden Council (New South Wales) are are tiny, with little chance of expansion.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:53, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
City of Shoalhaven smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Both of these categories for small places in the City of Shoalhaven a tiny, with little chance of expansion. Bomaderry contains only two pages: the eponymous article and one other article. Huskisson contains 3 pages.
- As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indisrciminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 22:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:54, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Bega Valley Shire smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Category:Edrom, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Category:Greigs Flat, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Category:Pambula, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Category:Tanja, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Category:Tathra, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Category:Wapengo, New South Wales to Category:Bega Valley Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Five of these categories for places in Bega Valley Shire contain only two pages: the eponymous article and one other article. The other (Tanja) contains 3 pages.
- There are all low-population places. Edrom has a population of zero, Greigs Flat 151, Tanja 157 ... and the biggest by far is Tathra with 1,675. As with many other New South Wales locations, category creation seems to have been a bit indiscriminate. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:55, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Troublesome Night
- Propose renaming Category:Troublesome Night to Category:Troublesome Night (film series)
- Nominator's rationale: Troublesome Night (film series) should be main.★Trekker (talk) 21:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Sri Lankan people of Fooian/Jewish descent
- Propose deleting:
- Category:Sri Lankan people of Belarusian-Jewish descent (only contains Jeanne Hoban, who was not "Belarusian")
- Category:Sri Lankan people of Latvian-Jewish descent (only contains Jeanne Hoban, who was not not "Latvian")
- Category:Sri Lankan people of Lithuanian-Jewish descent (only contains Jeanne Hoban, who was not "Lithuanian")
- Category:Sri Lankan people of Ukrainian-Jewish descent (only contains Jeanne Hoban, who was not "Ukrainian")
- Category:Sri Lankan people of Polish-Jewish descent (only contains Jeanne Hoban, who was not "Polish")
- Nominator's rationale: This is a classical case of unverified and unsourced Wikipedia:Overcategorization by @Spiderjerky: where a user has created a lot of pseudo-categories and parents for one person Jeanne Hoban based on her purported Jewishness, when in fact her article clearly states Jeanne Hoban#Early years: "She was born in Gillingham, Kent. Her father, Major William Leo Hoban was a British featherweight boxer and former soldier of Irish roots, her mother, May Irene Free, was a small businesswoman of partly Jewish extraction." providing no sources whatsoever. Basically Jeanne Hoban was born in England and lived in Sri Lanka and she should go into Category:Sri Lankan people of English descent & Category:British expatriates in Sri Lanka which for some unknown reason she is not placed in.
- Thank you, IZAK (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Judaism-related deletion discussions. 21:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC) IZAK (talk) 21:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete non-notable intersections. Another set of "descent" categories suffering not only the problem IZAK identifies of miscategorization, but the usual problems of objectively determining: how much of Fooian descent must one be and how distant must/can it be; then finding reliable sources tell us that the person is within those objectively determined definitions (without adequate sourcing of any patrilineal claims of descent - not everyone is the child of who they call dad). This also has the additional problem of the inclusion of "Jewish", which may remain purely a religious designation. Does someone become of "Jewish" descent if an ancestor converted to Judaism but their collateral relatives from non-converting ancestors have different ethnicities/descents. If so, then these "descent" categories for some imparted blood-lines are even more useless. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:20, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per nominator. This is a good catch: a forest of non-notable intersections of attributes not held by the one person placed in the forest, and which would be of dubious value even if there was evidence for their veracity. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:27, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all per above. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete all -- They seem to exist because one person was distantly of some unspecified eastern European (Ashkenazi) descent. Jewish descent is matrilineal, which might make a Jewish (or of Jewish descent). The Jews in eastern Europe were generally endogamous, so that Carlossuarez46's comment is misplaced: Being Jewish is not purely an issue of religion, but a quasi-ethnic category. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:40, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Southeastern Massachusetts
- Propose deleting:
- Category:Shopping malls in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Shopping malls in Massachusetts
- Category:Amusement parks in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Amusement parks in Massachusetts
- Category:Companies based in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Companies based in Massachusetts
- Category:Community colleges in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Community colleges in Massachusetts
- Category:Liberal arts colleges in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Liberal arts colleges in Massachusetts
- Category:Universities and colleges in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Universities and colleges in Massachusetts
- Category:Islands of Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Coastal islands of Massachusetts
- Category:Regions of Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Regions of Massachusetts
- Category:Restaurants in Southeastern Massachusetts to Category:Restaurants in Massachusetts
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:SUBJECTIVECAT. Southeastern Massachusetts "is not an official designation [and] its borders are not exactly defined." User:Namiba 20:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Note: nomination cleaned up. @User:Namiba, it would help a lot if you took a few moments to format your CFD nominations in the conventional way. Your nominations take a variety of creative formats which make it harder for other editors to scrutinise them and for admins to process them. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:06, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge, categories about regions with undefined borders should not contain subcategories. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:01, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Ex-gay organizations
- Propose renaming Category:Ex-gay organizations to Category:Organizations in the ex-gay movement
- Nominator's rationale: Proposed category would better the actual purpose of these groups, and would also better reflect that 'ex-gay' is a contested term. 'Ex-gay organizations' is unclear and suggests that it is the organizations which are 'ex-gay'. Darren-M talk 19:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support. Matches the article Ex-gay movement.--User:Namiba 20:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per nom, more accurate. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:03, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per nom. Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 17:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Gamera series Kaiju
- Propose merging Category:Gamera series Kaiju to Category:Gamera films
- Nominator's rationale: Very small category. ★Trekker (talk) 16:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Deep Blue Sea films
- Propose renaming Category:Deep Blue Sea films to Category:Deep Blue Sea (film series)
- Nominator's rationale: Standard. ★Trekker (talk) 16:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Prom Night (franchise)
- Propose renaming Category:Prom Night (franchise) to Category:Prom Night (film series)
- Nominator's rationale: Per main article. ★Trekker (talk) 15:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Speedy rename per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Woolbrook, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Woolbrook, New South Wales to Category:Tamworth Regional Council
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Woolbrook, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Preferably add some siblings to this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Timecop
- Propose renaming Category:Timecop to Category:Timecop (franchise)
- Nominator's rationale: Main article is franchise article. ★Trekker (talk) 15:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Manilla, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Manilla, New South Wales to Category:Tamworth Regional Council
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Manilla, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 15:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Preferably add some siblings to this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:48, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Szczuka
- Propose renaming Category:Szczuka to Category:Szczuka family
- Nominator's rationale: to disambiguate it from the article Szczuka, which is a village.
... or preferably delete per WP:SMALLCAT, since it contains only one article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete as smallcat. There are other Szczukas around, but it's not clear they are related. Johnbod (talk) 16:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete by lack of an article about the family and WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Wingecarribee Shire smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Wingello has two pages including the head article; the others have 3 pages including the head article. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Bundanoon, New South Wales to Category:Wingecarribee Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Bundanoon, New South Wales and Bundanoon railway station. The head article lists no other topics to add. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Bong Bong, New South Wales to Category:Wingecarribee Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Bong Bong, New South Wales and Christ Church, Bong Bong. The head article links to no other topics which could be added. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Exeter, New South Wales to Category:Wingecarribee Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Exeter, New South Wales and Exeter railway station, New South Wales. The head article lists no other articles which could be added, BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Propose merging Category:Robertson, New South Wales to Category:Wingecarribee Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Robertson, New South Wales and one other article. The head article lists nothing else to add to this category. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:58, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge all per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- I took the liberty to merge all nominations regarding Wingecarribee Shire. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:52, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Hellraiser
- Propose renaming Category:Hellraiser to Category:Hellraiser (franchise)
- Nominator's rationale: Per main article.★Trekker (talk) 14:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per WP:C2D. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:11, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Stanton, California
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Stanton, California and 2 other articles. All articles are already adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I've added 5 more related articles.--User:Namiba 20:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Purge, some articles are about a much wider area. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Regardless as to whether a certain article should or should not be removed or added, it is clear that SMALLCAT doesn't apply. There is clear room for growth.--User:Namiba 14:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @User:Namiba, that depends on how much is left after your inappropriate additions have been purged. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think what I added is inappropriate, but, either way, a city of almost 40,000 residents in a metropolitan area is clearly one that doesn't fit WP:SMALLCAT criteria.--User:Namiba 23:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @User:Namiba, that depends on how much is left after your inappropriate additions have been purged. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 18:42, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Regardless as to whether a certain article should or should not be removed or added, it is clear that SMALLCAT doesn't apply. There is clear room for growth.--User:Namiba 14:14, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Howling novels
- Propose renaming Category:Howling novels to Category:Category.The Howling novels
- Nominator's rationale: Propper name. ★Trekker (talk) 14:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename, consistent with article titles. Marcocapelle (talk) 06:12, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:St Albans, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:St Albans, New South Wales to Category:City of Hawkesbury
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous St Albans, New South Wales and two other articles. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Preferably add some siblings to this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:St. John's Abbey, Kilkenny
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous St. John's Abbey, Kilkenny and one image. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge Per nom and the spirit of WP:C2F, one eponymous article. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Move to/ create Category:St John's Priory (Kilkenny), because that is the name everyone in Kilkenny uses to refer to the church, it's the category used on Commons and it has many more photographs in it. A.-K. D. (talk) 16:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @A.-K. D., renaming the category would not resolve the problem that it fails WP:SMALLCAT. The fact that Commons has lots photos is the abbey is irrelevant; this category exists to group the content on en.wp, and there isn't enough content on en.wp to support a category on en.wp.
If the category exists on en.wp, it follows the name of the head article, which is St. John's Abbey, Kilkenny. If you want the head article to be renamed, then open a WP:RM discussion ... but please note that per WP:COMMONNAME, article titles are follow usage in... and one editor's imprssion of the views of
everyone in Kilkenny
is not a WP:Reliable source. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:49, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- @A.-K. D., renaming the category would not resolve the problem that it fails WP:SMALLCAT. The fact that Commons has lots photos is the abbey is irrelevant; this category exists to group the content on en.wp, and there isn't enough content on en.wp to support a category on en.wp.
- Merge Per nom and in the spirit of WP:C2F, do not rename. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge -- We do not want one item categories (or upmerge). Peterkingiron (talk) 17:43, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:South Grafton, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:South Grafton, New South Wales to Category:Grafton, New South Wales
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous South Grafton, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Sodwalls, New South Wales
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Sodwalls, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. Preferably add some siblings to this nomination. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Solomon family
- Propose renaming Category:Solomon family to Category:Solomon family (rock music)
- Nominator's rationale: disambiguation. The head article Solomon family is about an Australian family. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename Open to alternate rename proposals but this needs to change to something per nom. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete by lack of an article about the family. (Or rename per nom.) Marcocapelle (talk) 21:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Central Coast Council (New South Wales) smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Category:Cogra Bay, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Norah Head, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Noraville, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Saratoga, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Somersby, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Woy Woy, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Category:Yarramalong, New South Wales to Category:Central Coast Council (New South Wales)
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small towns in Central Coast Council (New South Wales) contains only two pages: the eponymous article and one other article. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge for Now With no objection to recreating if any ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge all per WP:SMALLCAT. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Marcelli (gens)
- Propose renaming Category:Marcelli (gens) to Category:Claudii Marcelli
- Nominator's rationale: There is no "gens Marcella", the Marcellus cognomen was simply used by a branch of the Claudia gens. ★Trekker (talk) 13:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- 'Question @★Trekker: do you have any source to support that assertion? --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
- You can read the Claudia gens for example or look at List of Roman gentes. Gens are a specific thing, not all names are gentes.★Trekker (talk) 07:56, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Signatories to the Ladies' Petition for the Establishment of the Foundling Hospital
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:NONDEF. The signatories are listed in the article Signatories to the Ladies' Petition for the Establishment of the Foundling Hospital. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Seems like WP:PERFCAT. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NONDEF. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:09, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per PERFCAT. The list article is all we need. Peterkingiron (talk) 17:44, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Sources limited from use on Wikipedia
- Nominator's rationale: Not sure why we need this category since it makes no sense to a reader or maintenance since we have a page listing all these sources and other sources 🌸 1.Ayana 🌸 (talk) 10:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per WP:CLS. @1.Ayana: the fact that a list exists doesn't mean that we can't also have a category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete Its non-defining and meta. Complete cruft.★Trekker (talk) 13:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Remove As Visible Category/Delete If this serves an administrative function, than I'm fine keeping it on the talk pages or hidden if it benefits Wikipedia editors. But this doesn't seem defining to a typical Wikipedia reader and should not be a visible category. (If there's not a consensus for this middle ground, then delete.) RevelationDirect (talk) 14:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- I can agree with this, for editors it may be helpful, but its not mainspace material.★Trekker (talk) 14:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete unless someone explains it serves a clear administrative purpose. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete not defining for the sources; do any of them care whether WP considers them reliable? One could probably add any number of esoterica to this category. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:22, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kurayoshi, Tottori
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kurayoshi, Tottori and 2 others. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Delete per WP:SMALLCAT.Marcocapelle (talk) 21:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Category is currently at 5 articles. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:58, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- "most 'scruciating idle"... retention per WP:SMALLCAT ("potential", repeat, "potential", repeat "potential"); encouragement to cease and desist per WP:SMALLCAT? encouragement to discuss first and during per WP:civility, HUMAN:civility? Were one to use Wikipedia's search function to help populate the category (not that this is necessarily necessary per WP:SMALLCAT), one might find eg Tottori College, Sekigane, Tottori, and Misasa-Tōgōko Prefectural Natural Park, which presumably puts us over the 5 articles minimum suggested above, seemingly contrary to WP:SMALLCAT, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 7 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:41, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Wikipedia requested images of Oklahoma
- Nominator's rationale: Seems to be an unnecessary and duplicative subcategory within the main category for Oklahoma image requests Jmertel23 (talk) 10:45, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Bungo-ōno, Ōita
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Bungo-ōno, Ōita and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:43, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- yawn; as above and per the Matsumae listing previously; Jinkaku-ji, Bungo-Kiyokawa Station, Oitakenou Airport, Asaji, Ōita, Inukai, Ōita, Mie, Ōita, Ogata, Ōita, Ōno, Ōita, Chitose, Ōita, Kiyokawa, Ōita, Ogata Station (Ōita), Asaji Station, Miemachi Station, Sugao Station, Inukai Station, etc. Please at least search for existing articles before incorrect citation of WP:SMALLCAT; please strike the remaining frivolous/vexatious Japanese municipality nominations on similar grounds, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Maculosae tegmine lyncis, try some WP:Civility. The only frivolous/vexatious actions here is your 8-year-long run of creating categories without trying to populate them. In the case of this category, you didn't even bother to add the head article Bungo-Ōno: it was added[1] on by Good Ol'factory 9 hours after you created[2] the category.
That is not a one-off issue: I stumbled across this nest of WP:SMALLCATs when my AWB run adding missing eponymous categories across all topics repeatedly found similar cases of missing eponcats for Japanese towns. Please drop the anger, sarcasm and personal attacks, and put your energies populating the categories the categories which which you created as mostly one-article categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC)- @Maculosae tegmine lyncis, it is not useful to just mention articles that belong in the category in this discussion. Take your responsibility and actually add these articles to the category. (Which you should have done when you created the category.) Marcocapelle (talk) 19:01, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- Please could you clarify how the save function works in terms of server storage space/requirements. For instance, say you have a town page of 100k and create ten new categories, adding in the categories one by one (each category addition being of c. 30 bytes); would you then have 1 mb of additional storage requirements or 300 bytes? Is it the diffs that are saved (and somehow combined when you load a page) or the new page in aggregate? Thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 11:18, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Maculosae tegmine lyncis, try some WP:Civility. The only frivolous/vexatious actions here is your 8-year-long run of creating categories without trying to populate them. In the case of this category, you didn't even bother to add the head article Bungo-Ōno: it was added[1] on by Good Ol'factory 9 hours after you created[2] the category.
- yawn; as above and per the Matsumae listing previously; Jinkaku-ji, Bungo-Kiyokawa Station, Oitakenou Airport, Asaji, Ōita, Inukai, Ōita, Mie, Ōita, Ogata, Ōita, Ōno, Ōita, Chitose, Ōita, Kiyokawa, Ōita, Ogata Station (Ōita), Asaji Station, Miemachi Station, Sugao Station, Inukai Station, etc. Please at least search for existing articles before incorrect citation of WP:SMALLCAT; please strike the remaining frivolous/vexatious Japanese municipality nominations on similar grounds, thanks, Maculosae tegmine lyncis (talk) 23:57, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 20 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but purge, the two prefectural natural parks are not in the town. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Uda, Nara
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Uda, Nara and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 18 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Ikema Island
- Propose merging Category:Ikema Island to Category:Miyakojima, Okinawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Ikema Island and one other. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support as there aren't enough articles to support a separate cat at this time. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:10, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Yoshinogawa, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Awa, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 18 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Miyoshi, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Miyoshi, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 11 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Yugawara, Kanagawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Yugawara, Kanagawa and 2 others. All three are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 8 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Manazuru, Kanagawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Manazuru, Kanagawa and 2 others. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 6 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:40, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Aikawa, Kanagawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Aikawa, Kanagawa and two others. All three are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:26, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 8 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kiyokawa, Kanagawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kiyokawa, Kanagawa and 2 others. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 6 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:51, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kamikatsu, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kamikatsu, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. The Japanese category shows quite a number of articles that could be translated and added to this cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:54, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kaiyō, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kaiyō, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 10 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Sanagōchi, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Sanagōchi, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 5 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Naka, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Naka, Tokushima and 2 others. All three are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are seven articles in the category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:25, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, biographies do not belong here and many articles in the category are not about the town. WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kamiyama, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kamiyama, Tokushima and two others. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 6 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:28, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Katsuura, Tokushima
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Katsuura, Tokushima and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:12, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. The corresponding Japanese category has quite a number of articles that could possibly be created here in order to fill it up. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:23, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Nishimeya, Aomori
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Nishimeya, Aomori and two others. All three are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:08, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 6 articles and one subcat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, articles about geographical things near the village do not belong in a category about the village. WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:33, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Izumi, Osaka
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Izumi, Osaka and 2 others. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 9 articles plus a subcat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 18:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, this appears to be a properly populated category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Tabuse, Yamaguchi
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Tabuse, Yamaguchi and one other. All 3 are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 7 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Shūnan, Yamaguchi
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Shūnan, Yamaguchi and 2 others. All are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 10:00, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are 21 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Hikari, Yamaguchi
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Hikari, Yamaguchi and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are ten articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Hamanaka, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Hamanaka, Hokkaido and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 8 pages in the category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:53, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Biei, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Biei, Hokkaido and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Delete per nom.···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)- Change to Keep as there are now 12 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:00, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Tadaoka, Osaka
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Tadaoka, Osaka and two other. All are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 09:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are eight articles in this category (including the 5 in the subcat). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:43, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Tawaramoto, Nara
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Tawaramoto, Nara and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Delete as there are only three articles in the cat.···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)- Change to Keep as there are now 6 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 17:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but purge. The article Yamato River does not belong in a town category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:06, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Dokdo
- Nominator's rationale: POV fork / duplicate of Category:Liancourt Rocks, recently created. Fut.Perf. ☼ 08:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support - obvious POV fork. --Khajidha (talk) 12:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support - agree that this is a duplicate of an existing category. Dan arndt (talk) 07:23, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support - Also, the creator seems to keep adding stuff about the Liancourt Rocks dispute to articles like Draft:Choi Jong-deok. Starting to look like a somewhat disruptive WP:SPA. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:59, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Now also blocked for socking. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:24, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support as obvious POV fork that is also empty. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:17, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Hōfu, Yamaguchi
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only one article, already adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. There are six articles in the category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:22, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but purge, the biography Santōka Taneda does not belong in a town category. Marcocapelle (talk) 19:02, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- It does belong because there aren't enough for a "People of Hōfu, Yamaguchi" category. He was born there per the bio. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kumejima, Okinawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kumejima, Okinawa and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:48, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are nine articles in the category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:30, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but purge, the island Iōtorishima does not belong in a town category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Ashikaga, Tochigi
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only one article, already adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as it contains ten articles. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:34, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep but purge, national routes and a river do not belong in a town category. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:55, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Gojōme, Akita
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Gojōme, Akita and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep as there are six articles in the category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 16:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, national routes, a biography and a park outside of town do not belong in a category about the town. WP:SMALLCAT still applies. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:52, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Railway stations located underground in Boston
- Nominator's rationale: All the contents of the parent category is in the immediate area of Boston, making categorization for Boston less relevant. The category still may have been necessary if oversized categories were an issue; however, upmerging this category would keep the parent at 31 pages. 147.161.12.52 (talk) 08:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. A quock look at Category:Railway stations located underground in Massachusetts shows that Alewife station is not in Boston. So the two categories don't have identical scope. There is no benefit in losing the specificity of the Boston category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Alt rename to Category:Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority stations located underground or Category:MBTA stations located underground. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:07, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kamikoani, Akita
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Kamikoani, Akita and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support for now. There are a number of articles that could be translated from the Japanese category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:12, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Tonaki, Okinawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Tonaki, Okinawa and one other, plus a redirect to the head article. Both articles are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom. Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support for now. There are some articles that could be translated in the Japanese category. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:14, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Itoman, Okinawa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Itoman, Okinawa and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support per nom Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 10 articles in cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:29, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Singapore Sports School
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Singapore Sports School, Category:Singapore Sports School alumni and a logo. All adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- See also Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 July 4#Secondary_schools_in_Singapore. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 19:35, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Yakumo, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Yakumo, Hokkaido and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 19 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:38, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Failed crimes
- Propose renaming Category:Failed crimes to Category:Attempted crimes
- Nominator's rationale: Criminal law generally uses the terminology of "attempted" crimes rather than "failed" crimes. Of the four subcategories, two use some form of "attempt" and two use some form of "attempt" along with "failed". So all four use some form of "attempt". Good Ol’factory (talk) 07:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per nom Clearer scope. Dimadick (talk) 08:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per nom Asmodea Oaktree (talk) 09:51, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Shinhidaka, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Shinhidaka, Hokkaido and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 14 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:59, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Severn Area Rescue Association
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Severn Area Rescue Association and 4 redirects to that page. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:59, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Selwyn, Queensland
- Propose merging Category:Selwyn, Queensland to Category:Shire of Cloncurry
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Selwyn, Queensland and one other. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:42, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Saterland Frisian language
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Saterland Frisian language and a template. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:37, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Seaport District
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Seaport District (of Boston MA) and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:22, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. I added several more articles. Should be appropriately populated now. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 11:34, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Slugger O'Toole I just checked one of your additions: Fort Point, Boston, which is a different district. That suggests that your additions have been indiscriminate. Please purge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- BrownHairedGirl, From the article: "At its broadest extent, it includes the land a few blocks on either side of the Fort Point Channel..." That would include the Seaport District. -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- C'mon @Slugger O'Toole. A few blocks of overlap on a fuzzy boundary does not make a WP:DEFINING attribute. Informal districts usually have fuzzy boundaries, so your approach would lead to nearly every informal district being categorised under its neighbours. This is just bulking out the category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- BrownHairedGirl, What I did was change a category of South Boston to the Seaport District, but your's is a fair point. I removed both. -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 12:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for those removals, @Slugger O'Toole.
I don't know the area firsthand, so there is a limit to assessments I can do without a lot of research. But I do see that if I applied WP:CATVER, by removing articles which don't contain a reliably-sourced assertion that they are in Seaport District, that would be quite a purge. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for those removals, @Slugger O'Toole.
- BrownHairedGirl, What I did was change a category of South Boston to the Seaport District, but your's is a fair point. I removed both. -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 12:19, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- C'mon @Slugger O'Toole. A few blocks of overlap on a fuzzy boundary does not make a WP:DEFINING attribute. Informal districts usually have fuzzy boundaries, so your approach would lead to nearly every informal district being categorised under its neighbours. This is just bulking out the category. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- BrownHairedGirl, From the article: "At its broadest extent, it includes the land a few blocks on either side of the Fort Point Channel..." That would include the Seaport District. -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 12:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, neighborhood categories should contain articles only, no subcategories since they are usually too ill-defined. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- The Seaport District is a neighborhood. This category has no subcategories. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Clarification: neighborhood categories such as Category:Neighborhoods in Boston should contain articles only, not subcategories like Category:Seaport District. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:36, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- The Seaport District is a neighborhood. This category has no subcategories. --Slugger O'Toole (talk) 17:18, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Sandycove and Glasthule railway station
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Sandycove and Glasthule railway station and one image. No chance of expansion. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:03, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Addition: In this edit have added Tara Street and Sydney Parade, each of which also has only the head article and one image. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge all in the spirit of WP:C2F. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support as these are unlikely to ever be populated much more. Maybe there are a few more hidden around the place. ww2censor (talk) 09:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- @ww2censor: I looked for other similar categories for Irish railway stations, but found none in the by-county categories. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:23, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Karrabin, Queensland
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Karrabin, Queensland and one other:Karrabin railway station. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:56, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Dinmore, Queensland
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the one article Dinmore railway station, and the only one which could be added is the head article Dinmore, Queensland. Both are adequately categorised, so need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rolando (video game)
- Nominator's rationale: Too little content for an eponymous category. Upmerge as appropriate (seems like both entries can go in all categories). ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:SMALLCAT. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 06:38, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Sai Mai District
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article foo and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:46, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: Populated. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:56, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, now that the nomination's concerns are no longer the case. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:41, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Salem, South Carolina
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article Salem, South Carolina and one other. Both are adequately categorised, so no need to merge. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Salussola
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Only the head article and one other. Both are adequately categorised. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:39, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rosenborg Castle Gardens
- Propose merging Category:Rosenborg Castle Gardens to Category:Parks in Copenhagen
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Rosenborg Castle Gardens and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:25, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Greater Hume Shire smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT.
Each category contains only two pages: the head article plus one other. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:23, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rikubetsu, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Rikubetsu, Hokkaido and one other article. Both articles are adequately categorised, so no merge needed. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:05, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for now. The Japanese cat has a few articles that could be translated. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:03, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Upper Lachlan Shire smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT.
Category:Bannaby, New South Wales Contains only the eponymous Bannaby, New South Wales and one other article: Hillas Farm Homestead. The other categories follow the same pattern: head article plus one other. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Brownlow Hill, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Brownlow Hill, New South Wales to Category:Wollondilly Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Brownlow Hill, New South Wales and one other article: Brownlow Hill Estate. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Couridjah, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Couridjah, New South Wales to Category:Suburbs of Sydney
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Couridjah, New South Wales and one other article: Couridjah railway station. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:48, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Cataract, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Cataract, New South Wales to Category:City of Wollongong
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous article Cataract, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:36, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Kenebri, New South Wales
- Propose renaming Category:Kenebri, New South Wales to Category:Warrumbungle Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Kenebri, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Murray River Council smallcats
- Propose merging:
- Category:Barham, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Cunninyeuk, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Dilpurra, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Mallan, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Murray Downs, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Tooleybuc, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Category:Wakool, New South Wales to Category:Murray River Council
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Each of these categories for small towns in Murray River Council contains only two pages: the eponymous article and one other article. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:21, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Newbridge, New South Wales
- Propose merging Category:Newbridge, New South Wales to Category:Blayney Shire
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the eponymous Newbridge, New South Wales and one other article. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 03:15, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rocket Girls
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only the head article Rocket Girls 101 and Category:Rocket Girls 101 members. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:55, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 15:09, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Retargeting
- Propose renaming either:
- Nominator's rationale: disambiguation. This category is about "retargeting" in online advertising, for which the main appears to be Behavioral retargeting, even tho it's currently not in the category.
The bare title Retargeting is about computer software compilation. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:33, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Option A per the title of the most relevant article, which I have added to the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 08:24, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Ramenye
- Propose merging Category:Ramenye to Category:Guslitsa
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT: only one article. The title Ramenye is a disambiguation which i just created. We don't appear to have any article on a Ramenye in Moscow Oblast. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:18, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Support ships of the Royal Navy
- Propose Upmerging Category:Support ships of the Royal Navy to Category:Auxiliary ships of the Royal Navy
- Nominator's rationale: Per WP:OVERLAPCAT and WP:C2D, consistency with main article's name
- We recently decided to merge Category:Support ships into the proper subcategories of Category:Auxiliary ships in this CFD discussion. That was based on the two categories having the same scope and going with the main article name, Auxiliary ship. This subcategory was missed in that earlier nomination and the Royal Navy doesn't seem to have any specific/unique distinction between these two terms. (Tagging those involved in that earlier nom regardless of how they iVoted: @Bibliomaniac15, Clarityfiend, and Marcocapelle:) - RevelationDirect (talk) 01:53, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge per nom and prior related decision. Clarityfiend (talk) 04:47, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Merge in line with the previous discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Biratori, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only one article, and AFAICS the head article Biratori, Hokkaido lists no other pages which could be added to this category. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:52, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:30, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Keep per 8 articles in the cat. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 21:16, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Rankoshi, Hokkaido
- Nominator's rationale: per WP:SMALLCAT. Contains only two articles: Shellfish Museum of Rankoshi and the head article Rankoshi, Hokkaido (which AFAICS links to no other articles to populate this category). BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:49, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete for Now With no objection to recreating if we ever get up to 5 articles. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:28, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Reed family
- Propose renaming Category:Reed family to Category:Reed family (Pennsylvania and New Jersey)
- Nominator's rationale: Disambiguation. The article Reed family is about a different family. BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 01:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support - my initial thought was of yet another Reed family. Grutness...wha? 03:13, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename to not conflict with the main article. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete by lack of an article, the family as such is apparently not notable. (Or rename per nom.) Marcocapelle (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- If that was a criterion I think most family categories would go. Grutness...wha? 02:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- In any case it is an odd characteristic to categorize by. People are (nearly always) notable for their personal achievements rather than because they are a member of a family. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Frequently it's just the opposite. For example, if siblings are home-schooled by parents who are noted scientists, chances are their own lives will be shaped into careers in the sciences, or at least will be naturally curious about the world, as a result. Actors are often the offspring of actors, simply because they were brought up in the milieu of the theatre. Athletes often have a genetic advantage if their parents were also both athletes. Grutness...wha? 05:43, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
- In any case it is an odd characteristic to categorize by. People are (nearly always) notable for their personal achievements rather than because they are a member of a family. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:31, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- If that was a criterion I think most family categories would go. Grutness...wha? 02:35, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- But they will only be notable based on their own achievements. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:47, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
- True - and as I pointed out,t here are frequently achievements they probably wouldn't have achieved if not for their upbringing. Take an example. Richard Hadlee was one of the world's greatest cricketers. He played in the same international side as brothers Dayle Hadlee and Barry Hadlee. His ex-wife, Karen Hadlee, was also a cricketer. How did Richard, Barry, and Dayle get so good? Backyard cricket practice as kids with their dad, international cricket captain Walter Hadlee. There is no Hadlee family article, not should their be - but a category? Definitely. Grutness...wha? 06:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- All of that does not apply to the category that we are currently discussing and generally I expect that families like Hadlee without having an article will be exceptional. Marcocapelle (talk) 18:45, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Not so much exceptional as the norm. Grutness...wha? 04:04, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment. @Marcocapelle, Grutness, and RevelationDirect: I have been thinking that we need some sort of centralised discussion on family categories. I will start something at WT:CATP. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:21, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
- Euh. I'd have thought "if it ain't broke" would apply... Grutness...wha? 06:20, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
Category:Deaths from cardiac arrest
- Nominator's rationale: Every death is from cardiac arrest. While in some cases the cause of that arrest may be significant (and looking at the articles in this category, many of them list a specific cause), the fact of cardiac arrest itself will never be defining. Nikkimaria (talk) 00:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. A WP:NONDEFINING attribute. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 04:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete this attribute is not defining. @Nikkimaria for the purposes of trivia, decapitation and being crushed to a pulp in an instant by an inordinately large object would be two ways of dying that don't involve cardiac arrest. --Tom (LT) (talk) 08:16, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Tom (LT), I have hunch that if a the Hoba meteorite had landed on my head, my heart would have stopped beating on account of being squashed to the thickness of rice paper. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 08:35, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Legal death may predate cardiac arrest - as necessarily so in heart transplant donors. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
- Comment: There doesn't appear to be a Category:Deaths from ischemic heart disease, which I suspect might be a more accurate categorisation for many of the articles. --Paul_012 (talk) 10:02, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete I have broader concerns about obituary based categorization, but this one is especially non-defining. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:31, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Delete the cause of death I think is notable, but this is basically how death is determined (as opposed to "brain death", where someone is legally dead before the heart stops.) Carlossuarez46 (talk) 00:26, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
MMORPGs
- Propose renaming:
- Category:Upcoming MMORPGs to Category:Upcoming massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:MMORPGs in fiction to Category:massively multiplayer online role-playing games in fiction
- Category:Text-based MMORPGs to Category:Text-based massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Sports management MMORPGs to Category:Sports management massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Space MMORPGs to Category:Space massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Science-fiction MMORPGs to Category:Science-fiction massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Nautical MMORPGs to Category:Nautical massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Historical MMORPGs to Category:Historical massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Fantasy MMORPGs to Category:Fantasy massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:Community-style MMORPGs to Category:Community-style massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Category:MMORPGs by topic to Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games by topic
- Category:MacOS MMORPGs to Category:macOS massively multiplayer online role-playing games
- Nominator's rationale: massively multiplayer online role-playing games/MMORPG and the name of the parent cat. There is no need for this inconsistency. Speedy was opposed because evidently, I had the same idea a decade ago. @Armbrust: ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:29, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose. The expanded titles are too much of a mouthful. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:50, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support Per WP:C2D to match the main article, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game. Sticking to that admittedly lengthy naming convention best helps navigation from my viewpoint. RevelationDirect (talk) 14:17, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Support per WP:C2D to match the main article, Massively multiplayer online role-playing game and Category:Massively multiplayer online role-playing games. Might be a mouthful, but that its name. --Gonnym (talk) 15:48, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Oppose for now: I think we probably need to assess these categories against WP:SMALLCAT before looking to rename - several have only 1 or 2 articles. Darren-M talk 20:44, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Darren-M: We're all here; let's assess them now. Are there some you want to upmerge? RevelationDirect (talk) 23:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- RevelationDirect Sports management (2P), text-based (1P), Historical (2P), Community-style (4P), Nautical (4P) are all candidates for deletion and up-merging, I think. Not averse to retaining them if we think they're likely to grow in future, but I'm not convinced the majority of them will grow to that point. Best, Darren-M talk 23:27, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- @Darren-M: We're all here; let's assess them now. Are there some you want to upmerge? RevelationDirect (talk) 23:11, 2 July 2020 (UTC)
- Rename per nom or upmerge per WP:SMALLCAT, dependent on size. Marcocapelle (talk) 11:34, 3 July 2020 (UTC)