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People are more important than Wikipedia.

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) January 22, 2014

Topics are (or are not) notable. Articles adequately demonstrate a topic's notability, or they do not. A topic's notability does not depend on Wikipedia article content.

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) February 11, 2014

(regarding oft-repeated arguments) That horse may not be dead yet, but it needs to be put out of its misery.

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 13:41, 2 August 2015 (UTC) (off-wiki)

Dashboard

Todo list:

  • Look at Talk:Cross-docking
  • Create a "dummy" template to put on user talk pages that puts the page in a list of "IP or non-autoconfirmed editor who may need urgent editing help based on recent edits" The template would "expire" after 1 hour. Behavior during first hour: Add user talk page to a maintenance category that editors can watch. Behavior after 1 hour: Add to a different maintenance category that basically tells a not-yet-written bot to remove it as expired. Basically, this is a not-in-your-face combination of "this editor may need training, OR this editor may need blocking, but either way attention is needed immediately."
  • Check up on Talk:FTWZ#"List of Free Trade Zones" proposed new requirements[needs update]
  • Turn this into a user-space essay on WP:IAR, its application, and the heavy responsibility that comes with doing things out of process. tl;dnr: When you do it, do it with humility, only do it if you are 110% sure you are right to invoke it, go back back later to make sure you were right, and fix it if you were wrong.
  • Propose this formally - DISPLAYTITLE edit filter.
  • Work on this.
  • WT:WPAFC / CAT:PEND - 1,058 pending submissions
  • Wikipedia citation tool for Google Books
  • Commons talk, Commons watch list


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question

Hi, I'm sorry, I had a question.You mentioned my name here I can know your reason, I transferred the photo from Persian to Wikimedia from here.Was there anything wrong with my work that you considered me a saboteur?؟--بولس245 (talk) 14:23, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@بولس245: You may have just been "in the wrong place at the wrong time" - your account was new and your edits, possibly by sheer coincidence, were consistent with the pattern of edits that a particular long-term bad actor would be expected to make. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:28, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
My friend is wrong. I just uploaded a photo that we can use in the article in all projects, and I copied it from Persian.--بولس245 (talk) 15:31, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I even mentioned in the history that I copied from Persian.--بولس245 (talk) 15:34, 22 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note to self: Based on late additions to the sockpuppet investigation, it looks like I was played, Special:CentralAuth/بولس245 is now globally locked. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:41, 27 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

S.A. Quinox article

Hi, I wanted to let you know I optimised the article on S.A. Quinox, based on the feedback, could you check it please? WikiSerena (talk) 12:39, 25 January 2021 (UTC)WikiSerena[reply]

@WikiSerena: First, apologies for ignoring this. Rather than me looking at it again, I recommend you submit it to the WP:Articles for creation queue. I added {{draft article}} to the top, you should now have a "submit for review" button you can use if you think the draft will pass. Or, if you prefer, you can update it further before submitting. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:28, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Box Critters reason

Before you send me a notice telling me to give a reason here is my reason and evidence. First of all this is based on a semi new MMO from the Creator of Club Penguin and if that game got a article then why not this one. Also ik the sources arn't that good but I am determand to keep growing it and hopefully more people will see this article and add more info that I couldn't find. However if you incest that this isn't ready then I will take it down and I will keep trying again and again! — Preceding unsigned comment added by LittleMAHER1 (talkcontribs) 17:56, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Another editor has nominated the page for deletion. Discussion is at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Box Critters. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:47, 25 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

18:30, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

Kerlouche83

Hi David,

Thanks for your reply. I made all the changes. When I requested the first change, my username contains the company name, I was told to change my username because I could not use it. the unfcumarketing is my old username I change it to Kerlouche83. Many information are missing from the original page. < Kerlouche83 (talk) 18:44, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kerlouche83: I removed the "gallery" from your message to me as it only contained example photos. The two undisclosed paid editors were from 2017, their names are on the talk page. Please continue the discussion there. Use {{re|davidwr}} to get my attention on any discussion page other than this one. If you do it right, it looks like this: @Davidwr:. Note that "re" and its aliases such as "ping" only work if they are put in the exact same edit that contains a "signature." See WP:Notifications for details on how this works. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:49, 1 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

22:38, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

Draft:CorVette

Just a note on this one - it would indeed be unambiguous advertising...if it was real. It's not; the thing is entirely a (repeatedly deleted) hoax. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:38, 2 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You got Something

The Signpost Barnstar
for Dr. Seuss's Guide to Wikipedia. Smallbones(smalltalk) 18:30, 4 February 2021 (UTC) ]]) 18:14, 4 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of Dispute resolution noticeboard discussion

This message is being sent to let you know of a discussion at the Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding reason. Content disputes can hold up article development and make editing difficult. You are not required to participate, but you are both invited and encouraged to help this dispute come to a resolution. The thread is ".eco".The discussion is about the topic .eco.

Please join us to help form a consensus. Thank you!

Note to self: I opened this dispute, the notice here on my own talk page is so I remember when I opened it. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

I see no need to ask to modify the block on the other editor in the .eco dispute. They had already been cautioned several times to stop edit-warring, and they continued edit-warring rather than discussing. Also, the proposal that you make at DRN is out of scope for DRN, which does not discuss blocks, but is in scope for WP:AN.

I will probably be reporting the dispute at WP:AN shortly anyway. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Robert McClenon: I was going to wait until his unblock expired or was modified, if he's decided "enough of this" and quits Wikipedia, or if he "sees the light" and decides to edit responsibly from here on out, there's no need to start a new discussion. I'm not saying I'm optimistic, I just want to leave that door open. I would love to be pleasantly surprised by him returning as an editor who "gets it." davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 16:52, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No means No (Film) Discussion

This is a copy of a discussion at Draft talk:No Means No (film)#No means No (Film) Discussion (permalink), continue the discussion there, not here

Comment: @davidwr, @Drmies, @Donaldd23, @User:El cid, el campeador

  1. Sir, I am shocked and disappointed to see that the Film/Movie of such a magnitude & high budget[1], was first put up for deletion and now shifted to draft, wherein there are innumerable independent articles in the Indian as well as International publications/media houses who are on the Wikipedia’s list of reliable sources, such as the article carried in “The Hindu” which is independent & in-depth article[2] and is self explanatory & also covered in other international Media, whereas, the wikipedia page such as for the film “Madam Chief Ministerare still alive, inspite of having sources only from The Hindustan Times, Bollywood Hungama, The Times of India, which according my learned colleague @davidwrThe Times of India” are not under the list of reliable sources and otherwise all these three sources are not on the Wikipedia’s List of reliable sources, then how come the page of “Madam Chief Minister”’s page is still alive? Whereas these sources are there multiple times on the wikipedia page of “No means No”. This is my concern. Personally with all due respect, I have nothing against the article of the film “Madam Chief Minister”, but just referring it for comparison and knowledge, and one more question arises as to why the page of “No means No” is targeted?
  2. Through the research and study of available & reliable sources in Wikipedia and others, the cast & crew such as
    1. Gulshan Grover, who is world renowned actor who has worked in more than 400 movies in Hollywood & Bollywood.
    2. Hariharan is a legendary Music Maestro and is conferred with the highest award and the title of “Padma Shri” by Government of India,
    3. Neetu Chandra is the winner of 2 national awards and is an actor working in both Hollywood & Bollywood,
    4. Shreya Ghoshal is a world renowned singer who has to her credit of 851 songs in Hindi Language itself and also has her statue at the London Museum of Madam Tussad’s and in America, one day is dedicated to her by the governor of California, United States,
    5. Shiamak Davar is a world famous choreographer who is known for his works for the film “Mission Impossible” & “Ghost Busters” and winner of various Filmfare Awards,
    6. Sharad Kapoor who is also a nominee for Filmfare Award for his acting work.
    7. The Director Mr. Vikash Verma, who is also a world renowned security expert[3] has been awarded by the Government of Bihar, India for his contribution to the Bollywood film Industry and the film “No means No”; Source: The telegraph, Hindustan Times, Movie Talkies, Mid-day.
  3. The Film which is on women empowerment story, to strengthen the relationship of the two countries, is backed & supported by the Prime Minister of India Shri Narendra Modi & Prof. Piotr Glinski - Dy. Prime Minister of Poland, Indian Ambassador to Poland, Polish Member of Parliament Ms. Ms. Malgorzata Pepek, the President of Bielsko-biala, and also the tweet by the government of Poland. I'snt the tweet from the government of Poland reliable and credible? Source “The Hindu”[4]
  4. Recently G7 Films. Poland which is the production house, have been awarded with “The Best Trailer Award”[5] by the Mid-day & Jagran Group, which is one of the oldest news publishing house according to Wikipedia. The production house have been backed by more than 250 articles starting from the year 2017, published on various Multi-lingual Indian as well as International News Media which are on the Wikipedia pages. The research also confirms that none of these articles are the press releases.
  5. I come across new article everyday from the publications which have their own wikipedia pages, which I had been putting up on the discussion page on regular basis. And as you can see that what I am writing now is already been updated on the discussion pages with the supporting links attached, which had been ignored for the reasons best know to my colleague authors and as a beginner I would like to know and understand on the different approaches to two pages of same category. Even all these information is been updated on the page of “No means No".
  6. According to my learned colleague @davidwr, the page can remain live if more articles on the news media are published and mentioned on the page, which I could find a in-depth and detailed article on “The Hindu”[6], which also satisfies the condition of being on the Wikipedia list of reliable sources. Plus also Lokmat & Bollywood Hungama, Box Office India, & Cineblitz articles had come in and updated on the “No means No” page.
  7. As my learned colleague @Drmies had analysed the discussion page and reached a conclusion that the article is to be sent to draft, whereas when I go through the discussion page, the visible consensus that can be seen is of keeping the page alive. One more point, when at first the page was put up for deletion and after the necessary discussion and changes, the page was allowed to keep alive. It’s difficult to understand that once the discussion was closed and then the article was kept alive, why is the page again brought up for deletion and then moved to draft, even though there were no changes made to the article.
  8. I will update the below list of published articles on daily basis
    1. 5th February, 2021
      1. News Article on ANI News
      2. News Article on The Times of India
      3. News Article onThe Hindustan Times
      4. Tweet from the Government of Poland
  9. Aren't the in-depth independent article published in the reliable sources not worthy of having this page live?

I was feeling proud by editing this page of such a great film, My whole effort has gone in vain and today, I feel emotionally hurt & disappointed having to face this situation and such humiliation, even after following all the guidelines and rules of Wikipedia. And fail to understand why there are two different measure sticks taken?

My humble request to you all of my colleagues, please reply so that I can get educated and guide me if I am wrong in of the inferences as derived in my above writeup. I am feeling discouraged to be actively participating in Wikipedia.

References

  1. ^ "Mid-day". Mid-day.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  2. ^ "The Hindu". The Hindu.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  3. ^ "The Telegraph". The Telegraph.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  4. ^ "The Hindu". The Hindu.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  5. ^ "Mid-day". Mid-Day.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)
  6. ^ "The Hindu". The Hindu.{{cite news}}: CS1 maint: url-status (link)

Archiedesai (talk) 07:36, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

For talk page stalkers and those named in the "ping" - I have collapsed the discussion, please do not edit this copy. Please continue the discussion at Draft talk:No Means No (film)#No means No (Film) Discussion. Courtesy ping to Archiedesai so he is aware that I've asked people not to continue this copy of the discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:01, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of noticeboard discussion

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:11, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's a complicated intellectual property issue, in that Planet ECO appears to have acquired a trademark that is contrary to what ICANN has awarded, so I think it should be discussed as soon as possible. Anyway, you had the respect for the rules to stop edit-warring before you hit 3RR. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Robert McClenon: I don't know if you saw it, but there was a mutual agreement by myself and Dyork on Talk:.eco to not revert a subsequent edit by JWatTheDotECO if he made it, which he did. See his edit of 15:41, 4 February 2021 (UTC) and my reply of 16:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:27, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Then JWat and Techie3 resumed edit-warring, which is why JWat wound up being blocked. At this point, I think it is best to see whether JWat requests unblock. That is what unblock requests are for. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:41, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh. Techie3 was not part of that gentleman's agreement between myself and Dyork, I don't even know if he read that part of the talk page. In any case, I saw Techie3 agreed to abide by the rules, which isn't all that much to ask.
By the way, I agree that the block is well-deserved, but because it would benefit Wikipedia I hope he asks to be unblocked enough to participate in the discussion on the notice-board. I would NOT favor un-blocking him from .eco or Talk:.eco until the normal expiration time, it's just too risky. I would also favor an indef "COI-block" on .eco itself and a "broadly construed" topic-ban on editing about either the .eco top-level domain or his company and anything related to it or its direct competitors (e.g. other domain registrars, domains that his company is a registrar for, employees of his or competing companies, etc.) outside of "Draft:", his own user-space, and discussion pages (e.g. talk pages, noticeboards, XfD pages, etc.). I do NOT want to prevent him from helping compose a new section about the history of .eco as long as he doesn't touch .eco itself. Should ".ECO®" or his company ever meet WP:N (IMHO neither are anywhere close as of today), I have no objection to him writing a draft and submitting it through WP:AFC. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:56, 5 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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Please continue this discussion at Draft talk:No Means No (film)#No means No (Film). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 15:01, 6 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, just a heads up that the editor (Imaztv) has continued to remove declined AFC submission notices after you have told him to do so. They're also removing talk page notices, blanking the page. There's probably some COI issues at play as well. Thanks, B732 (talk) 17:56, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@B732: Thanks for the reversions. I did the author the courtesy of restoring content that got cleaned out in the reversions. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:57, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Well, it's a moot point now, editor is blocked for being advertising-only account, see discussion on WT:WPAFC. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:29, 7 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I've read the discussion; interesting. Thanks for all the work that you do. Have a good day, B732 (talk) 02:25, 8 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:40, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

percent encoding

Hi

I have some problems with percent-encoding in URL  address, Can you help me with that please?

Thanks Azadeh behi87 (talk) 05:17, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I use Firefox, it automatically converts things into percent-encodings as required. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 13:28, 10 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Malu

Hello um, i am malu trevejos sister and i am adding information that is true so please stop changing it Wiki factss (talk) 18:06, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note to self: See User talk:Wiki factss#Do you know the person you are writing about? (permalink). davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:35, 11 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Stuart Bloom

Thank you so much for revising my Wikipedia page DDP-Trooper1777 (talk) 22:52, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@DDP-Trooper1777: You are welcome, but I'm still concurring with the recommendation that your editing privileges be temporarily restricted, at least with respect to the "main" encyclopedia, due to your demonstrated lack of knowledge of and/or respect for Wikipedia's copyright policies. I should not have had to do any copyright-related cleanup to your draft, you should've done that before you saved the first edit. The time I spent working on it is "lost time." I now have less time to contribute to Wikipedia today.
See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#DDP-Trooper1777 for further discussion. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:59, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Note to self: Editor was indef-blocked. I tried suggesting an alternative, but it's probably for the best.[17][18] davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 23:34, 12 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Troydan, etc

You've opened a real can of worms there! :-) Deb (talk) 09:13, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Deb: better to do laundry late than never. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 14:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New page

Hi David!

I am creating a new page for the Australian mathematician Jack Palmer as he is about to release a thesis on a very interesting subject in mathematics that may explain topics such as the Riemann Hypothesis. I would love to know more about how to publish a page. I heard it may take up to 6 months and I would like to know if it could be published sooner as he is releasing his paper next month.

Thank you! Have a great day! — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarcusLowryLol (talkcontribs) 17:17, 15 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@MarcusLowryLol: You don't. Or rather here's why you don't: 1) Wikipedia is NOT for promotional purposes, see WP:NOTPROMO for details, and 2) You appear to have a conflict of interest - editors with a "close connection" to a topic should not be editing articles about that subject at all.
With respect to the "conflict of interest" guideline, you can use the "Draft articles" procedure outlined at WP:Articles for creation to create a "draft article", then submit it for review. Once an article about this person is accepted, you can recommend changes to it by using the {{requested edit}} template on the article's talk page.
Before even trying to create a draft article, please read ALL of the following pages very carefully:
davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 22:33, 17 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

17:54, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

Merry Love day

Yes it's the day after Valentine's day but shush no one has to know

Valentine Greets!!!

'Hello Davidwr, love is the language of hearts and is the feeling that joins two souls and brings two hearts together in a bond. Taking love to the level of Wikipedia, spread the WikiLove by wishing each other Happy Valentine's Day, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person.
Sending you a heartfelt and warm love on the eve,
Happy editing,from littleMAHER1

~~~~

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Valentine Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Official name "Liga Nacional de Fútbol Profesional"

Hi David, I can imagine your effort and work for a lot of days, months and years on Wikipedia... my congratulations. I have been contributing to the English Wikipedia for almost 10 years, but with my own account).
Now, I work in the communication department of LaLiga, and among my duties is to introduce the official name "Liga Nacional de Fútbol Profesional" and/or brand "LaLiga", instead of "Liga de Fútbol Profesional" and "LFP". I am trying to change the name of the article, which is currently "Liga de Fútbol Profesional" to the official "Liga Nacional de Fútbol Profesional" by redirecting it, but I am not allowed to make this change. This has already been done in the Spanish Wikipedia. I ask you if you can do this redirection yourself. Thank you very much, --AraceliLaLiga (talk) 16:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@AraceliLaLiga: Please use the Template:Edit request template on the talk page of the article in question to make this request. You will need to demonstrate that reliable sources are using the new name. You will also need demonstrate that the official web site as listed in older revisions of the article either uses the new name or, if the web site itself has changed, sends people to the new web site. The first requirement is because Wikipedia uses the "common name" of a topic, the second is to prove that the request isn't a fake one.
Also, I highly recommend that you disclose the connection to the accounts, either privately or publicly, as outlined in WP:SOCKLEGIT and WP:SOCK#NOTIFY. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 17:57, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about pages with pending changes protection.

Hi! I wasn't sure who to ask/talk to but I've had this Wikipedia account for almost a year and I'm an "extended confirmed user" according to the user list page.

I read the page protection policy as well as the F.A.Q section but whenever I edit pages with the pending changes protection, my edits still need to be reviewed even when there are no previous edits that still need to be reviewed/accepted on the page. Now until recently to my recollection, my edits on pages with that type of protection were usually automatically accepted. I'm just wondering what happened or if there's someone I can ask because I'm neither an unregistered IP address or a new account. Also, I've been able to edit pages with other levels of protection, like extended confirmed protection and semi-protection without a problem? Clear Looking Glass (talk) 20:05, 22 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Clear Looking Glass: that is a puzzle. Can you give some examples? Find some low-traffic page with pending changes protection, make an edit, then take a screen shot of the page history showing your edit has not been approved, then post it somewhere. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 01:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for replying! I made edits on the pages of Famke Janssen and Andy Milonakis, and I took a screenshot showing that I've made an edit that is waiting to be reviewed as its highlighted in orange/beige, and I also included a few previous edits to show that there were no pending changes before mine. Here and here. If it's worth mentioning, a page I recently made an edit on that had to be reviewed was that of Gisele Bündchen and that was successful approved by "WhoAteMyButter". EDIT: I'm not sure whats going on because earlier this month I was able to make an edit on Cary Grant's page, as well as multiple edits on Nelly Furtado's page without any problems. Here's proof. Clear Looking Glass (talk) 02:47, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Clear Looking Glass: That IS weird. This edit of yours at 22:06, 27 January 2021 to Famke Janssen was accepted automatically. It looks like this edit at 13:17, 30 January 2021‎ by Raphael1256 was the last "non-self-reversion" edit by a non-page-reviewer that was automatically accepted. I recommend looking through a handful of pages awaiting review or other pages with pending-changes protection to see if there is a pattern, such as a "cutoff date" after which all editors without the pending-changes-reviewer right are unable to have non-self-revert edits automatically accepted. If you find such a pattern, report it on Wikipedia talk:Pending changes and ask of others have seen the same problem, or skip the discussion and report the bug directly by following the instructions at mw:How to report a bug. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 14:26, 23 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

00:16, 23 February 2021 (UTC)