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Leemour Pelli article

Courtesy link: Draft:Leemour Pelli

Hi, I'd love to get some feedback on this article. It was declined but I've edited on the Work section and I'd like to know if this meets the conditions for approval. Thank you!

[Leemour Pelli] Woodholder (talk) 13:41, 22 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Woodholder, the "work" section reads more like an advertisement of the subject even now. Please see WP:NPOV and WP:WBA. Basically, the tone of the article needs to be neutral and dispassionate, not promotional. Java Hurricane 05:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Woodholder: I also took a quick look. I'd remove Artspace as a ref, as that appears to be user generated content. I also think it is a little too promotional, with quotes from art publication reviews. It needs to be more encyclopedic in style and tone. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 21:24, 25 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@JavaHurriance: @Timtempleton: Thanks for taking a look and your suggestions! Will work on this further.

Woodholder (talk) 12:49, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Duchess potatoes

Could we remove the ‘notability’ tag from this article? It appears to be reliably sourced and it has significant coverage (I got over 1.8 million hits when I did a Google search). It compares favourably with most items in List of potato dishes, most of which aren’t tagged as possibly not notable. Overlordnat1 (talk) 09:37, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overlordnat1 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure the notability is demonstrated by the given sources an article content(one short paragraph). It's not enough for something to have lots of google hits, there must be significant coverage in independent reliable sources that needs to be in the article itself. However, if you feel that the notability criteria has been met, you may remove the tag yourself. I might suggest that you attempt to discuss it on the article talk page first, perhaps other editors who follow that article might know more. 331dot (talk) 09:41, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The first two references might be more convincing if they supplied page numbers. Maproom (talk) 17:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Overlordnat1, I have expanded the article and removed the notability tag. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Great job, thanks! Perhaps I should delete my comments from the article’s talk page as they’re no longer relevant or applicable? Overlordnat1 (talk) 08:56, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You may delete your post on the talk page, provided nobody responded to it there.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done Overlordnat1 (talk) 15:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Drafts for Article Rewrites

Hi, I've been working on a major rewrite of Étienne de Perier in the wake of an edit war that left the page locked for a few days. (I was not involved in the edit war, but have been trying to shape and moderate the discussion since it was reopened.) In general, the participants have been willing to work on the talk page to determine consensus, working section by section. We're getting to the section where the controversy began and even the simple conversations have been hard to manage with spelling out suggested edits and changes on the talk page. So, is it acceptable to create a subpage of the talk page that would be for draft text? I'm thinking "Talk:Étienne de Perier/Rewrite-Draft" or something and text can be worked on that page with the discussion on the talk page. I'm not sure if that will be more efficient or not, but I thought it might help. What do others think? Are there some guidelines or best practices for managing this sort of group rewrite? Carter (talk) 18:36, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And ... I just found WP:SUB, so it seems like a Talk subpage is an allowed place for content under construction as part of a rewrite. So I think I can do it; anyone have advice as to whether or not that's a good approach in this situation? —Carter (talk) 23:30, 26 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Tcr25, I had not read that page before you linked, but yeah, like you said, it looks like it's allowed, as long as you don't do the things it says not to do. So, my advice is, just do it. If it doesn't work out, you can get it deleted easily, and move on to exploring other options. If it does work out, and someone says it's not allowed, you can move it to one of your userspaces and continue working there. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 10:55, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Am I Missing Anything?

My previous submission was declined for improperly citing sources. I was wondering if I am missing anything to get the page created?

Thanks!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:CUBANARAMA Cubanarama (talk) 02:44, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cubanarama, it's difficult to tell whether the three sources you provided are sufficient to establish notability. Our rules say that offline sources like books are allowed, but in practice, editors are typically hesitant to accept them at articles for creation until they've seen what they say. Do the passages provide detailed discussion of Cubanarama beyond just a trivial mention? The third reference, an embedded link to someone's appearance on the show, definitely doesn't count, as we can't use a source itself to establish its own notability; it has to come from coverage in secondary sources.

I would also suggest removing the external links from the article body per Wikipedia:ELNO. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 07:27, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's unclear to me what the draft is meant to be about — a talk show, or Marta Sosa. Maproom (talk) 08:23, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The internet talk show/ and personality is Cubanarama; the host is Marta Sosa. Most media is under the persona Cubanarama. The 1st book is a biography book, and in the 2nd there was over 15 mentions of the show and it's host. Is there a way to submit the pages with mentions?

The link to someone's appearance is to link guests of the show to their wiki pages.Cubanarama (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why my content is deleted

I tried to make a page on Wikipedia , which is true , author of books is mentioned , and shows at hindi film industry , what was the problem , why you have deleted the page ,

That page was not meant for promotions , the page contains the work of the person , which is only 20 percent mentioned there

I mean why the person have done so much work in industry , don’t have right to have a page in Wikipedia ,

Please explain me why ? 113.19.14.95 (talk) 05:18, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It would be easier to figure it out if you actually provided the title of the former page. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 05:36, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Also, nobody has a "right" to be the topic of a Wikipedia page. DS (talk) 16:39, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

please recheck my page

FYI

– Merging with above as I believe this is the same asker. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:08, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

page created of the person are all true and not for promotion work the content added of the person is only 20 percent of the work in hindi film industry

the person is also author of books , and has worked in hindi film industry since long, do that person dnt deserve a wikipedia page Millidol (talk) 05:25, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Millidol, perhaps you mean User_talk:Millidol/sandbox. This cites only two sources: IMDb and Amazon. IMDb should not be cited. Amazon should not be cited. So your draft has not even one reliable source. -- Hoary (talk) 05:34, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Not to mention the actual biographical claims in the article are entirely unsourced. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 05:37, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think he means Draft:Pravat Rout, which was deleted under G11 yesterday, or Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:09, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sandbox has same content. In addition to lack of references, another problem is that the four books authored by Pravat Rout were self-published, thus not contributing to notability. David notMD (talk) 10:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Bad editor

I have come across a user that for the last two months seems to have created many articles that have been deleted either by AfD, PROD, or CSD. I put up one of their recent articles up for CSD which is how I found out (noticed when I looked at their talk page). I get the sense that they are not a native english speaker and are out of their depth, but it seems like they aren't learning / are unlikely to learn.

Are there any places to report individuals who seem to have a bad track record of creating poor articles? Either for them to have restrictions placed on article creation (if it were to count as a form of spamming) or direct people to them so they can be taught how to improve? Thanks! --Tautomers_{(T C)} 08:07, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: District Jail, Jhajjar: In general, you can take this sort of editors to the drama board. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:29, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since 2017, HariSinghw has been extremely prolific in creating drafts (in some instances skipping AfC process to create articles in mainspace), with a high failure rate: abandoned drafts, speedy deletions, copyright infringement, draftification of articles and AfDs. Some article efforts succeeded (many as minimally referenced stubs), or were "no consensus" at AfD, and hence remain. More guidance on HariSinghw's Talk page may help. David notMD (talk) 10:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info! I am of the opinion that guidance will have no effect whatsoever. --Tautomers_{(T C)} 20:05, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I want to create a Wikipedia page for our Library Organisation, What i have to do?

We want to create a wikipedia article related to our organisation " KELPRO: Kerala Library Professionals Organisation". Arunkumarlib (talk) 10:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Arunkumarlib! First, please familiarize yourself with conflict of interest (COI) and especially how to declare it. Then, you should look for reliable sources about your organization to ensure it meets Wikipedia notability guidelines for organization. After that, you can follow this guide and create a draft and ask for a review. Please note that normal draft reviews can take multiple months. Also, COI editiong is generally best avoided and very few editors are comfortable with reviewing COI drafts, so COI drafts can be stuck in review even longer. Anton.bersh (talk) 10:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Arunkumarlib, I looked at your talk page and your contributions to date and I noticed that:

You have never contributed to any content which was not related to KELPRO.
You have created a page about KELPRO which was deleted for copyright infringement (copy of content from KELPRO site). This content would not be appropriate for Wikipedia, even if it is properly licensed, because it is written by the members of the organization.
I could not find any reliable sources on this subject and I do not believe KELPRO meets Wikipedia notability requirements.

Given these circumstances, I recommend reading Wikipedia:Copyrights. Also, keep in mind that pages which are repeatedly created against Wikipedia rules, deleted, and then recreated again can be salted preventing article creation by regular users.

Anton.bersh (talk) 12:45, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) Hello and welcome Arunkumarlib, I'm going to throw some links at you, you have some reading to do. Start with WP:NORG. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing and WP:COI. Still want to spend time on this? Then WP:YFA and WP:TUTORIAL. Good luck! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:28, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Table below references

The Awards & Nomination table keeps appearing below the references, despite the heading being in the correct position on the page. Can you advise on how to resolve this, please? URL is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Candice_Onyeama cheers AFRICAN001 (talk) 10:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Done. AFRICAN001, the table needed to be closed, which I have done so here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 13:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about declined draft

hello, i was writing a wikipedia page for a person i really admire and my draft got declined because of "The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes." i did not understand what this is exactly so can somebody please help me 106.51.243.116 (talk) 11:04, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP 106.51.243.116. It would be easier to answer your question if you could provide the name of the draft you're referring to above. I am unable to find any record of a draft being created in the contributions history of this IP address; so, perhaps you used another account to create the draft. Without know more about the draft, the only thing I can suggest is that you take a look at Wikipedia:The answer to life, the universe, and everything for some general information about the reason why the draft might have been declined. Based upon what you've posted above, the information given in Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:Citing sources might also clarify things for you a bit. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:58, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Landsmannschaft Zaringia Heidelberg

For starters, it's pretty acceptable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Landsmannschaft_Zaringia_Heidelberg Could you remove the word "draft" please. Wname1 (talk) 12:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I can't comment on whether Draft:Landsmannschaft Zaringia Heidelberg meets en:Wikipedia's standard of notability, as I don't have access to any of the sources cited (and I know very little German). But the translation needs some work. E.g. "Fuchsband", "Vandal-Band", "couleur", "percussion", "rippon", "Bursche", "beat", "Mensur", "hit", "Diemerei". "Mensur" and "percussion" are wikilinked, but apparently to different senses of those words. Maproom (talk) 12:55, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Given that this is your third attempt to create an article, and the other two, while accepted, still have tags indicating quality problems, I recommend you submit this draft to AfC and see what a reviewer thinks. Because of backlog of drafts, could be months before reviewed. Work on improving the draft. David notMD (talk) 14:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is it possible on Wikipedia to use a short Mensur video even though you don't know who made the Mensur video? Wname1 (talk) 05:58, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That would be copyright infringement. And, do not bold comments. David notMD (talk) 12:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Is the current article acceptable? Wname1 (talk) 12:41, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How to address "Undisclosed Payments" tag?

A page I made has an "undisclosed payments" tag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DataGraph

What to do if I am not receiving payments? I added this to the talk page of the article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DataGraph

"I wrote this page after I noticed a reference to DataGraph on another page (CricketGraph) but that link did not go anywhere, as no one had made a DataGraph page yet. I have little experience in wikipedia editing and welcome comments to make this page better. Meam70 (talk) 19:07, 25 March 2021 (UTC)"

I am an ethustiast of this software, and rather than having a dead link, this page seemed like a reasonable addition to Wikipedia.

Can someone else evaluate this page?

It is a little anoying having this tag on something I spent time creating, but also I want to update aspescts of the page and I am afraid to do so. Any advice is appreciated. Meam70 (talk) 13:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mean70 The reason the tag was added was because your account appeared to have been created solely to compose this article. On your Talk page and on the article Talk page, clearly state that you have not been paid nor received any other form or compensation for the article. After doing this, you can leave a note on the talk page of the editor who added the UPE tag (User talk:MrOllie) so that editor can remove the tag. David notMD (talk) 14:46, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am not able to use

Hey, I am not able to use this link ~ ***https://www.boat - lifestyle.com/ on wikipedia***. But why? Its the official site of BoAt (company) and i am not able to add it on the article? Can some one add for me that link on that article? The company is the fifth largest wearable brand in the world. It's showing blacklisted , so what should i do? Can someone remove it Badassboy 63637 (talk) 13:57, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Asked and answered here. --bonadea contributions talk 14:52, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Articles for referencing sources

Are these articles are referencing sources with reliable? Think these ones:

Articles have been created by editors
Articles need citing sources are suitable to Wikipedia
Articles are above reliable sources

If there are things exist on referencing sources, see here at WP:V. --Diegopeter2013 (talk) 14:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Diegopeter2013 and welcome to the Teahouse. I am very sorry, but I am unable to answer your question because I do not understand what it is that you are asking here. Please try again, and give a link to any article(s) that you want to ask about. Thank you. Nick Moyes (talk) 20:14, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

About the “associated acts” field

What are the guidelines for adding individuals or groups to the “associated acts” infobox field? Mostly in the context of YouTubers. I notice a lot of missing associated acts, but I don’t know what it would take for someone to count as an associated act. For example, if someone is featured in the YouTuber’s content once, is that counted? How about if it’s multiple times? Does the person need to have their own Wikipedia page to be added? I also notice that the field seems to have no sources required. M2r1k5 (talk) 14:45, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Jace338 (talk) 15:02, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Jace338 and welcome to the Teahouse. The general guidelines for this are located here: Template:Infobox_musical_artist#associated_acts. Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 15:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

locking a page

how can i lock a disputed wiki page? Aryankhan777 (User talk:Aryankhan777) 15:07, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Aryankhan777 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You may request page protection("lock") at WP:RFPP. 331dot (talk) 15:21, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Aryankhan77, although you can request page protection it's better to attempt to find reliable sources for the information you add first: see Wikipedia:Reliable sources for what sources are okay to include, and Help:Referencing for beginners on how to add them. Cheers, Rubbish computer (Talk: Contribs) 15:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The article Usman Kakar is semi-protected for a month because of conflicting information about his death on 21 June 2021 (murder or natural causes). Some of the conflicting content had references, but those are not present in the current (27 June) version, which does not mention his death at all. The Talk page of the article is recommended as a place to have a discussion - and an attempt at consensus - about details of his death. David notMD (talk) 16:03, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

28 June and the death-by-violence content is back in, with references. No discussion at Talk. David notMD (talk) 12:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What was the motive behind the teahouse?

G lordess (talk) 16:12, 27 June 2021 (UTC) A few moments ago I was invited to join the teahouse ,and since I'm so excited to finally be noticed ,joining was not hesitant for me ,but now I really wanna know more and I also wanna know what questions are appropriate for the teahouse. — Preceding unsigned comment added by G lordess (talk • contribs) 16:16, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello G lordess! The Teahouse is a page for "newbies" to ask questions they have about editing Wikipedia. WP has several such pages with different focus, but this is a good place to start. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@G lordess: Just to follow on from the above answer, here at the Teahouse we take a generally more informal and friendly approach to guiding newcomers through the intricacies of editing Wikipedia than you might encounter elsewhere on this platform. So, as Teahouse hosts we offer tea, guidance and answers! Please do take note of the advice left on your talk page. I'd really recommend that you remove those posts about yourself and all your self-promotional sandbox content before someone else does. You've probably now gathered that we're all here to build an encyclopaedia of Notable things, and I'm afraid we're not tolerant of letting people use us as a free webhosting platform or a place to promote ourselves or our views, unless they relate directly to improving Wikipedia content. All the best, and enjoy your editing experience. Why not try out The Wikipedia Adventure to learn a bit more about what we do here and how we do it? Nick Moyes (talk) 18:13, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@G lordess: The Teahouse was started as a Wikimedia Foundation initiative to increase editor retention from 2012, see SignPost issue at the time. Looking at the Teahouse page one month after launch, it seems to me that it almost instantly turned into a clone of the help desk, albeit one where we expect more basic questions and a more newbie-friendly atmosphere. I do not know if that was the WMF's expectation. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 11:11, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, the help desk itself used to have a banner that said Welcome to the Newcomers' village pump! This is a version of the Wikipedia:Village pump for newcomers and users who don't yet have an account.. So the HD was created as a split of the village pump ("general chat" forum, let's say), which I guess handled the Q&A part at the time. Tigraan^{Click here for my talk page ("private" contact)} 11:16, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notability based on School sources

Is there a policy against using sources from university or college newspapers as an example of WP:N? I'm pretty sure I've seen someone cite a guideline that says it's not allowed, but I couldn't remember what the wikilink is. TipsyElephant (talk) 17:01, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

TipsyElephant, WP:RSSM? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:49, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

From a Draft to the Real Thing

How do I change a page from a draft to an actually findable page? Best cartoonist ever (talk) 18:48, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Best cartoonist ever. You cannot do so, your WP-account is not old enough. You can use this link WP:SUBMIT to ask for a draft to be accepted. However, Draft:The Magic Portal (short film) will not be accepted in it's current form, see WP:GNG, your draft has no references at all, existing is not enough. If WP:Conflict of interest applies to you, please follow the guidance there. Help:Your first article can be useful. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:03, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This source [1] is usable (see after 5:00), but it's not enough, you need more. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:22, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

More usable sources here: [2]. This may well be a doable article. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:33, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

One more: [3]. See WP:TUTORIAL and start working. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:51, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Best cartoonist ever. This is a quite interesting article and film. I concur with Gråbergs Gråa Sång that this is a notable subject. I added several sources to the article. The film has been discussed in many different contexts over the past 30 years. I have submitted it to WP:Articles for Creation, so that someone with experience in film articles can have a look at it and give feedback. Also, if you are connected to the filmmaker, let us know. Thanks. --- Possibly ☎ 06:36, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please indicate the specific problem requiring revision on the page Bill Zimmerman (activist)? Thank you.

Cozumel1973 (talk) 20:46, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Since you have a conflict of interest, I suggest you read the message that S0091 left on your talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 21:00, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @Cozumel1973:, I will post some additional advice on your talk page. S0091 (talk) 21:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notability with independent sources

Am I correct in assuming that an independent source mentioning a subject the sole grounds or the main grounds for notability? -56independent 21:06, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Added header. S0091 (talk) 21:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Notacoworcat: It needs to be significant coverage, not just a mention. See WP:N for much more detail RudolfRed (talk) 21:15, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Notacoworcat, whilst your question has been answered to, i feel a need to expatiate, So sourcing is generally a tricky one, (it took me several months to understand it thoroughly) but please don’t be deterred, nonetheless, it is covered extensively under WP:RS, your question was a tad bit confusing and nebulous so I give props to RudolfRed, for attempting to assist you. I’m going to give you a super simple explanation on how reliable sources work, for starters for you to be able to consider a source “worthy” it must be independent of the subject, it should discuss the subject with significant coverage and it must be reliable, that is the source should possess both a reputation for fact checking and most possess editorial oversight. Celestina007 (talk) 22:31, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Question about Artist Nobility

Hello, Previously I've been working on a draft for a painter/artist and was wondering what it took to be notable. That being said, wouldn't an artist who has had their piece sold or displayed at the Metropolitan_Museum_of_Art or MoMa be considered notable? If so, I could try to dig in more and resubmit the draft after some edits. OneEyedWolf (talk) 21:46, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@OneEyedWolf, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, notability for painters are covered under WP:CREATIVE, hey I’m sorry, is there a particular draft article being made reference to here? I’m only assuming right now, if you have tried submitting the article via AFC and it gets declined, I suggest a dialogue with the declining editor is a good idea. Celestina007 (talk) 22:17, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am assuming this is about Draft:Jean-Marie Haessle. The great majority of the content is not referenced. Look for published content that is about him at length - not just mentions of him or his artwork. David notMD (talk) 00:05, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@OneEyedWolf, hello. You would have to find sources (reviews, newspaper articles, books etc) that talk about Haessle's work. I checked MoMA, which has a record of every artist who has shown there, and he was not listed. MoMA and the Whitney, which you said he showed at, are not listed on his CV, which is one document I did manage to find (here). In a search I saw no reviews, museum collections or mentions longer than a sentence or two. My hunch is that he is not notable enough for an article, but if you can find three or four substantial reviews, that would be a start to proving he is. --- Possibly ☎ 05:11, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I just want to add that I find it highly unlikely that the artist in question is of nobility. He seems to be just another commoner like most of us, alas. --LordPeterII (talk) 13:18, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

question about speedy deletion

Recently I have been warned on my talk page by a prolific editor/admin that "There are many tasks at Wikipedia for which experience is required, and speedy tagging is one of them. Again, stop doing it. For the moment, consider this friendly advice, but if you ignore it, you risk being blocked for abuse of process" I wont say who, you can check for yourself. I have searched the whole WP:FIELD for some mention of this being restricted to experienced editors, and found none. I have only requested 3 things to be speedily deleted, and of them 2 were denied and 1 was processed. I believed all 3 had merit however I admit 1 was mislabeled, but not the one reviewed by the admin who warned me. He did not direct me to any relevant page regarding his assertion that my actions constituted abuse of the speedy deletion process, and no WP:ADMINSHOP had occurred. If anyone here could point me in the direction of some essay, policy, or an archived ANI where some consensus was reached that establishes his claim.Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 21:50, 27 June 2021 (UTC) Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk) 21:50, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rammuni BadaUdasin, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, whilst I haven’t looked into anything, based on what you have just stated above, you can put yourself at the risk of getting blocked if you are not CSD-tagging properly, if continued it constitutes WP:DISRUPT editing which could indeed get you blocked. Celestina007 (talk) 22:06, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I see now you are referring to Bbb23, please just take it slow with the tagging until you understand how they work. We are admonished when CSD tagging to take care, if you are reckless with its optimization, you can indeed get blocked. Have you read WP:CSD? I presume not and even if so please I beg, re-read it. Celestina007 (talk) 22:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Rammuni BadaUdasin: Work on something else for awhile until you have more experience. If an admin tells you that you are not doing something right, why would you not take that advice? RudolfRed (talk) 22:30, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@RudolfRed: Well when advise comes in the form of unsubstantiated claims and when asked for clarification/ guidance to the policies mentioned they instead imply administrative action could be required if said advice is not followed, it begs the question. That is why I requested here for more clarity. Thanks @Celestina007: for your advice to reread, I will do, to insure that no mislabeling occurs in any future proposal. I have went ahead and did a normal WP:PROD as I believe my original request has merit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rammuni BadaUdasin (talk • contribs)

Article on a Crypto Currency

Hey there! I want to create an article for a well known crypto currency called the Bitspawn. Any tips or suggestions to avoid any mistakes? Also, is there any specific notability criteria for crypto? Thanks Inzy321 (talk) 22:20, 27 June 2021 (UTC) [reply]

@Inzy321, hello and welcome to the Teahouse, a couple of things, if you are somehow connected to this digital currency, you subconsciously possess what is referred to as a WP:COI and we don’t advise editors to create articles they are closely connected with, but if this isn’t the case please see WP:YFA. On this collaborative project we have a notability threshold, that is if the subject of an article possess in-depth significant coverage in reliable sources independent of them, they are considered notable enough to be retained on mainspace. Celestina007 (talk) 22:38, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Inzy321. Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Cryptocurrency and Wikipedia:General sanctions/Blockchain and cryptocurrencies. There has been disruptive editing in the cryptocurrency topic area, so I advise caution. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 00:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Need help on spammers

Hello,

I am having a problem with spammers who are attempting to cancel any information that they do not agree with, based on the lie that a duly published (and well regarded in the academic community) scholarly work is "not reliable"——without making a single effort to present a fact that shows that any contribution is inaccurate. Any attempt to have them act in a scholarly fashion has been ignored. I would be happy to have a third party arbitrate this. How would that be started?

Thanks,

Metaphysical Historian

This is a sample page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mary_Baker_Eddy&action=history Metaphysical historian (talk) 23:03, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Metaphysical historian: The note on your talk page says the book you are citing is self-published, which is not usable as a reliable source in Wikipedia articles. Please find a different source to support anything you want to add to the article. RudolfRed (talk) 23:10, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If you disagree with that assessment, you can try asking about your source at WP:RSN to get other opinions on it. RudolfRed (talk) 23:26, 27 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding page creation

How to create a page Kurizaw10 (talk) 00:42, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Note: added header melecie t 01:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kurizaw10: Welcome to the Teahouse! See Help:Your first article. GoingBatty (talk) 01:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

New Page for Civil Rights Leader Dr. Robert J. Brown

Hello Wikipedians,

My team hopes to engage your assistance and expertise in creating a page for Dr. Robert J. Brown. Due to conflicts, we cannot make the page, but can help provide credible sources.

https://www.bobbrownspeaks.com/

Please advise.

Yours in service,

Tara Sue Gamingbenefits (talk) 03:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest you go to Wikipedia:WikiProject_Civil_Rights_Movement, click on the Talk page, and request someone participating in that project to help you create an article. Karenthewriter (talk) 04:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Gamingbenefits and welcome to the Teahouse! This may or may not be possible, thanks for asking first. Your first hurdle is WP:BASIC. What are the 3-5 best sources you know about Brown that are at the same time reliably published (WP:RS), independent of him (and his companies, family, etc etc) and about him in some detail? Chapters/paragraphs in books about the Civil Rights Movement, articles about him in Washington Post, NYT, CNN, BBC etc would be excellent. A WP-article could then be written based on what's in those sources.

Another thing. You may have noticed that WP is full of all kinds of rules. Per WP:ORGNAME you need to change your username. If you want your org in there it can be "Tara Sue at Gamingbenefits", alt "President Tara Sue" or whatever. The easy way to do this is to just abandon your current account and make a new one. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 05:17, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What's the fastest way to write a featured article? Suggestion

I'm interested in writing an FA quick, so answer this question:

What's the fastest way to write a featured article? «2nd|ias» 03:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Do not even think about it. Just do your best to write good articles and maybe at some point one will be featured. Those articles are usually written by long-term editors who have written many articles. Then there is the point that very few articles are written by just one editor. Many join in the game to improve an article. --Bduke (talk) 03:27, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the answer. «2nd|ias» 03:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Ias, how do you define "fastest"? Here's my answer: #1 - become a productive, well-informed, helpful Wikipedia editor, thoroughly conversant with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. #2 - begin writing your future featured article with complete willingness to accept the contributions of other editors. It's that simple. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with your response, it's efficient and feasible. «2nd|ias» 06:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2nd Ias In looking at your Talk page, you've had successes (and failures) in raising articles to GA. So you likely know that the path to FA is incremental - first get an article to C-class or B-class, then GA, then FA. There is, however, the coveted Wikipedia:Four Award for editors who have gone from Start to DYK to GA to FA. Go for it!!! David notMD (talk) 11:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I think it's possible. «2nd|ias» 00:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Need Clarifications in my article for moving to live space

I have created my first article and it is in my draft. Draft:Gopinath Ravi https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Gopinath_Ravi

One author made some corrections in my article but didn't approved it. What does it mean? Do I have to wait yet? Or is that my article is in stage where one can verify and approve it?

Please anyone help me in this. Thanks in advance. Kamesh Aravind P (talk) 04:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

hi @Kamesh Aravind P and welcome to the teahouse! I've went and fixed the failed substing in the template. it's currently in the stage where someone may verify the article, however you may still improve the article while waiting to make it more likely that you'll pass AfC. happy editing! melecie t 05:30, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kamesh Aravind P: I looked over Draft:Gopinath Ravi and I do not think it qualifies for main ("live") space yet. I have the following concerns (which will most likely be raised during review):

It might be too early for a dedicated article about Gopinath Ravi. There might not be enough written about this person in reliable sources to support an article.
Does the subject of the article (Gopinath Ravi) meet Wikipedia notability guidelines for actors? Article references only one film which does not have any indication of notability yet. Since this film was not released yet, evidence of notability might appear soon when movie critics and media publish their reviews of the films and this actor's performance in it. Article also references four awards, which do not have any indication of notability.
Most sources are not in English. This person might become notable in Hindi Wikipedia prior to becoming notable in English Wikipedia. May be, consider creating a draft in Hindi Wikipedia first, getting it published, and only then translating it?
Article is full of red links. Please take a look at Write the article first.
Article text is hard to read, has grammaticlal errors, run-on sentences, punctuation errors. The flow is messed up overall. The bit about helping "the needy peoples" sounds outright derogatory.
External links section contains links to this person's YouTube, Instagram, and Twitter accounts. These are best avoided as per Wikipedia:External links.
Since, this article is based primarily on sources rovided by the subject, it might get declined as promotion of the subject.

Anton.bersh (talk) 07:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks @Melecie for your help. It got reviewed now and declined. Thanks @Anton.bersh for your advice. I'll make note of it and come back with better article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamesh Aravind P (talk • contribs) 10:20, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry Anton.bersh, but your third point above is completely wrong. The language of sources is not at all a factor in determining the notability of a subject. There are numerous articles here on the English Wikipedia that have no English sources at all. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 15:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Review For Article : Haniya Nafisa

Hi there! I know that asking in the Teahouse does not fasten the review process of my article, but this is a kind remainder that my article has not been reviewed since I submitted two weeks ago. My second question is that How to get a custom design for. our user name Like the above one. Thanks in Advance!!! Jocelin Andrea (talk) 04:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC) Jocelin Andrea (talk) 04:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Jocelin Andrea: There is a large number of reviews waiting and few reviewers. Sometimes reviews happen quickly, other times it can take months. You just need to be patient. You can continue to work on the draft to improve it while you wait for the review. RudolfRed (talk) 04:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to the teahouse. For a custom signature, see here. Enjoy you stay here at Wikipedia! Heart ^(talk) 04:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You have presumably not read what it says in the box on your draft: "Review waiting, please be patient. This may take 5 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 4,200 pending submissions waiting for review.--David Biddulph (talk) 06:59, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Help review and guide my article about one of travel agent company

I have read a lot of Wikipedia guide for beginner and tried to fix it now. However, I cannot find additional articles or news on the website which meet Wiki's policy that can be used for my references. What should I do? Please help me to make my article can be accepted. Kanzakisviel (talk) 06:37, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

References do not need to be on websites; books or newspapers are among the acceptable reliable sources. If suitable published sources can't be found, this would mean that the subject does not (yet) meet Wikipedia's definition of notability. --David Biddulph (talk) 06:49, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy: Draft:Airpaz, declined once, and creating editor has not yet replied to a query about this possibly being paid editing. David notMD (talk) 12:22, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Mason Smith article

Im not sure why my article has been declined. My subject is notable with multiple citations and his been on T.V multiple times, can someone help? Bruinsfan65 (talk) 07:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If the subject satisfies the requirements of WP:NHOCKEY, please provide evidence. --David Biddulph (talk) 07:08, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The section on his cutlery business, with no independent sources, should be dropped. Maproom (talk) 09:43, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Because he has not yet made it to major league hockey. Basically, WP:TOOSOON. And yeah, drop the knives. David notMD (talk) 11:07, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notability Doubt

Those members of parliament or other state or national legislative bodies that are appointed by president – are they included in WP:NPOL? It says “Politicians and judges who have held international, national, or (for countries with federal or similar systems of government) state/province–wide office, or have been members of legislative bodies at those levels”. So it doesn’t discriminate between elected or appointed members. But want to confirm again. Fishandnotchips (talk) 09:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Elected or appointed - the barrier for notability is, as always, sources. Someone could be elected to Parliament, but if no-one has written about them, they're far less notable than potentially someone "lower" than them who's been written about far more. --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 11:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I've come across something that kind of violates usepage policy?

I was bouncing around [[:Category:Geishas]] and editing the article Sada Abe, and I came across the userpage of Japan Writer 64 in the process.

Their userpage reads like a resume, but as far as I can tell, it's meant to have been a draft - it has draft categories, and the edit summaries seem to support this. It's not actually the worst self-promoting draft I've seen; it seems like the user took the time to understand what a draft should be, even if it's not sourced correctly. That's basically Christmas for self-promoting articles.

The user hasn't edited since April, and only has 4 edits, but it does seem a violation of WP:UPNOT, or at least, something that should've been placed in a Draft space. I don't feel able to help out - I can barely find my own draft article, to be honest - but it feels like something that would need action taking, or at least some gentle guidance. Any help? (Thanks!) Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 11:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

tansanische Staatsbürgerschaft. Jeder der die Staatsbürgerschaft der USA besitzt, ist Tansanischer Staatsbürger steht in Wikipedia. ### Das ist falsch. gemeint ist: jeder, der die Staatsbürgerschaft der Vereinigten Republik Tansania hat, ist tansanischer Staatsbürger.

Streicht das USA. Es ist eine Fehlübersetzung. Leider habe ich keine Zeit, mich damit zu beschäftigen, aber möchte es doch - ohne Vorwurf - melden. Wahrscheinlich handelt es sich um einen Fehler beim Übersetzen aus dem Englischen. Martina Emmerich, (redacted) 25 Lederhose21 (talk) 11:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English Wikipedia. Messages need to be in English. Perhaps you are looking for the German Wikipedia? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:44, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Lederhose21, if you find a problem in an article in the German Wikipedia, you need to raise it in the German Wikipedia, not here, as they are entirely separate projects. My guess is that it was simple vandalism, but I may be wrong. I suggest you raise it at de:Wikipedia:Fragen von Neulingen. (I have redacted your address, as this is a very visible place to post it, and nobody from Wikipedia will contact you at it). --ColinFine (talk) 11:46, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Need to change a picture on the Betty and Barney Hill page, star map is a fake Zeta Reticuli overlay of Betty Hill' star map, its been confirmed that Zeta Reticuli has no planets

Steven3951 (talk) 14:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Marjorie Fish's interpretation of Betty Hill's purported alien star map, with "Sol" (upper right) being the Latin name for the Sun. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steven3951 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Barney_and_Betty_Hill § Analyzing_the_star_map. Maproom (talk) 07:41, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

My page

Hello, I want to know if my page has been posted to Wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:George_Cervantes Marcorubiocali (talk) 14:17, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Marcorubiocali, no it hasn't, and it won't be - as clearly stated in the text you deleted "This topic is not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia." - Arjayay (talk) 14:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I made a whole new page. The person is known actor. Please review the page for me. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marcorubiocali (talk • contribs) 14:29, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

A) Teahouse hosts are not reviewers. B) The draft has been nominated for Speedy deletion, meaning it will be gone soon. C) Your attempt to create an article about him under his professional name Draft:George The Matchmaker was speedy deleted last week. Nothing in the drafts established or even hinted at the level of reliable-source notability required to be an article. Persist in this pursuit and you will be blocked. David notMD (talk) 14:51, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

GA review

I was recently doing a GA review for the article Peking Man, and I put the review on hold to give the nominator some time to clear up some confusing/unnecessarily dense language. However, they have said that they don't see what the problem is with the writing and don't want to change it. I'm not quite sure what to do because I feel like the article is very close to GA quality, but some of the sections are very confusing and there are only 2 days left of the hold. Am I allowed to make edits myself to the article in this situation? Or alternatively, does someone mind looking at my comments under the "well-written" section on the review page to see if I am being to strict? Thanks, Kokopelli7309 (talk) 14:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I think there's a balance. If the word fits and the sentence scans well, the the big words might be okay if they are being used correctly. The way the editor has used "preponderance" isn't quite right in two of the three instances in the article. I added a comment on the GA thread to note that. —Carter (talk) 14:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Carter: Thank you! Where do you think I should draw the line, then, before the article is ready to be promoted to GA? Kokopelli7309 (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Kokopelli7309, I'd probably not fail it for being a little overwritten in a few places, so long as the words were being used correctly. If a reader hits a word they don't know, they're likely will look it up in the dictionary. If there's a casual usage that kinda of fits, but doesn't fully align with the formal definition, then the reader's going to have a problem. That's what we'd want to avoid. —Carter (talk) 15:26, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Kokopelli7309 (talk) 15:34, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kokopelli7309: I would agree with Tcr25. Technical subjects do sometimes need to use technical terms, but avoiding overuse of complex phraseology is also important, especially where simpler words or terms are available. But a simple diet of plain English can be like plain food - it serves its purpose but becomes dull and uninteresting after a while. At a very quick skim read, I don't see an issue with the complexity of the wording. But are there specific words or phrases you would like us to look at?

Although Carter felt the following was OK: "...French archaeologist Henri Breuil suggested the preponderance of skulls compared to body remains is conspicuous, and hypothesised the remains represent the trophies of cannibalistic headhunters,...", I found it to be a bit clumsy, and would suggest the following subtle change: "...French archaeologist Henri Breuil noted the obvious presence of many skulls compared to other animal and human remains, and hypothesised that they represented the trophies of cannibalistic headhunters,...". I certainly would not wish to see a GA being refused on the grounds of 'long words' being used - providing, that is, they are deployed in the right way. Hope this helps a bit. Nick Moyes (talk) 15:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Nick. To be clear, the sentence can benefit from some cleaning up, as you showed; I was just pointing to that as the one instance where preponderance was used correctly. —Carter (talk) 16:02, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Tcr25 OK, thanks. My mistake - sorry. Nick Moyes (talk) 17:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reversion to earlier page - can most recent version be restored?

This page has reverted to an earlier state, and the recent links and text have been lost. Can it be reclaimed?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_Larson Kent Larson (talk) 15:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Kent Larson: The edits are still visible the page history, however, you should probbably review Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and discuss this with Firestar464 (talk page) before even thinking on wether to restore them. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(ec) @Kent Larson: You should discuss it on the article's talk page at Talk:Kent_Larson to get consensus on that. It is part of the WP:BRD cycle. You were bold. Edits were reverted. Next step is to discuss it. It is usually not a good idea to edit articles about yourself. See WP:AUTO and WP:COI for guidance. RudolfRed (talk) 15:55, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

General Question

what’s teahouse? Sunumthomas053176 (talk) 16:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome, Sunumthomas053176. The Teahouse is just a nice friendly name we give to this 'help forum' where experienced editors can assist others who might be encountering problems in using and editing Wikipedia. It's aimed especially (but not exclusively) at new editors. If you have a question about how to edit- just pop back anytime and ask. Nick Moyes (talk) 16:28, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Search

I'm not getting suggestions whenever I'm searching anything on wikipedia. Why? Can anybody help me for this? Hasan (talk) 16:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, Ulubatli Hasan. That sounds most unusual. The 'Search' box in the top right corner of the page in desktop (non-mobile) mode is working just fine for me. A can type in any well-known word (like 'Apple') and see a list of possible suggested things I might want to look at, from fruit to computers. Are you using a mobile phone and/or a mobile app? And what terms have you been searching for, and what are you seeing when you do try to find something? Nick Moyes (talk) 16:32, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Nick Moyes, Thanks for your kind reply. I'm using laptop and that's not working whenever I'm searching any page. This is happening only on enwiki. I also edit urwiki and hiwiki, it works there but not here. I searched the word "Apple" but got no suggestion. for example, if I type "Apple" then there will be no result/suggestion until I press enter key and find the result. Hasan (talk) 16:41, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ulubatli Hasan I've just tested searching on five different browsers, and all give me a 'drop-down' set of possible answers after I type 'Apple' but before hitting enter. I see you don't edit here much, so I'm going to suggest that this may well be because of the 'Skin' you have set in Special:Preferences on en-wiki. I have just looked at Help:Searching, and it says that the default 'Vector' skin (which I and most users will have running) behave differently to some of the others, such as 'Monobook'. Please could I ask you to check which 'Skin' you have and let us know what happens if you change it to 'Vector'? Also: which browser are you using? Nick Moyes (talk) 16:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ulubatli Hasan No - that isn't it. I've just changed my skin to Monobook, and I didn't experience the issue you describe. I still got a drop-down list of possible apple-related topics before I pressed enter, whereas you're saying that yo do not get that automaitic drop-down list.

I am at a loss as to the cause unless it's a browser setting or a pop-up blocker affecting things.

So, in your shoes, I would first reboot my laptop in case something is affecting functionality here which a simple restart might clear up. Then I'd either wait and see if anyone here can offer you a better answer, or I'd go to our technical helpdesk called Village Pump (Technical) and repeat your question there, possibly linking to our chat here, but ensuring you give as much succinct information about your problem and attempts to resolve it as you can. There will be many more technical people lurking then than me! Nick Moyes (talk) 17:10, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Nick Moyes for your help. I've removed my common.css which I had added in oct 2020. Since then it was not working. Now, It's working perfectly after removing. I don't know why I had added (copied a user) common.css. I also removed vector.js. Thanks. Hasan (talk) 05:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

That’s great to hear, though I wouldn’t have thought of that myself! Nick Moyes (talk) 07:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

/* Correction and update needed for a Wikipedia Page */

Okay, I'm new here and just checked out the Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor talk section. I was disturbed by this comment: "She isn't currently a member of the royal family since she's not an HRH, and as the source says, even among the extended family, Maud Windsor was born first." Lili Mountbatten-Windsor is a member of the royal family. Prince Charles is her grandfather and Prince William the child's uncle. To suggest, otherwise is highly unethical and bias. Also, can someone properly correct the child's Wikipedia page to point out that she "Lilibet Mountbatten-Windsor is the first and only great-granddaughter who is a direct descendant of Britians current monarch Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Charles, to be born in the United States." Source: https://www.eonline.com/news/1277118/lilibet-diana-is-the-queens-11th-great-grandchild-meet-the-youngest-royals Purplebrown43 (talk) 17:48, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The talk page of the article is the correct place for the discussion. The discussion doesn't belong here. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I bought this up on the talk page. And nothing has been done about it, as of yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Purplebrown43 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Category talk:Freemasonry in the Roman Catholic Church

Good morning to any WP user, let me give two thoughts:

1) If the Roman Catholic Church has Wikipedia:Notability, then the true Category:Freemasonry in the Roman Catholic Church has the same degree of notability, since the Freemasonry is the Synagogue of Satan. Infact, Saint Pius X defined it as the "Synagogue of Satan" in his encyclical Etsi multa luctuosa. Like Jude the Iscariot, any human creature of God is capable of committing the same sin and to become the Temple of Satan (John 13,27) instead of being the Temple of the Temple of the Holy Spirit God. Two contraries, two opposing realities like the Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ have reasonably to have the same degree of notability.

2) the second issue is that WP can't have empty categories. We need to find under Category:Freemasons one or more biographoes of Roman Catholic priests, deacons, bishops or simple lay believers, or of people who have been excommunicated for their belonging to the Freemasonry. We need to build up a query to cross the common elements, to make a merge between Category:Freemasons and one or more of the following categories: Roman Catholics by nationality‎, Lists of Roman Catholics‎, Roman Catholics by period, Roman Catholic religious workers‎, Roman Catholic religious workers‎. Hope in the eventual aid of the other WP users. Untill John Paul II's reform of the Code of Canon Law at the end of the 1980s, Roman Catholics were forbidden to become member of the Satanist Freemasonry.

Finally, I modestly would like to apologize with non Christian users of Wikipedia. But to talk of a similar category makes unavoidably to deal with truth of faith like the identity between Freemasonry ans Satanism. This doesn't mean any Freemason can have the divine grace of a full conversion to the Lord Jesus. And WP obviously isn't the right place or website to do that. I don't think the reasoning can be shortened further. I apologize for its lenght and for the imperfect English in which it has been written.

Let you have a good continuation on WP with the aid of the Lord Jesus and of the Holy Spirit God.Theologian81sp (talk) 17:57, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theologian81sp: good evening. This is presumably about the deletion tag placed on Category:Freemasonry in the Roman Catholic Church. Quite simply, if there are no Wikipedia articles or other pages that would belong in a category, that category shouldn't exist. I wouldn't think individuals should be added to that category, since Category:Roman Catholic Freemasons exists and is populated. --bonadea contributions talk 18:31, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theologian81sp: Adding to what Bonadea said, my feeling is that it actually sounds more like a possible title for an article, but not a Category. (i.e. Freemasonry in the Roman Catholic Church). Here's hoping we all continue to work on Wikipedia productively, with or without anyone's God's intervention. Regards Nick Moyes (talk) 19:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Nick Moyes and Buonasera:, thanks for your replies. To create an article It seems to be a good idea. The name of the category is misunderstanding because the Synagogue of Satan and the Mystical Body of Jesus Christ God are still incompatibile, despite the laws reinveted by Wojtyla. It is a matter of substance and not of changeable human laws. If nobody of the following popes changed this rule, this could happen because all of them served Satan. I would like to add Bergoglio to this category. What a proof? 300 Italian people murdered on August 24, 2016 in Amatrice, Italy, during what has been presented as a natural earthquake, but It was really a genocide, the highest Italian genocide for number of victims after the Sant'Anna di Stazzema massacre, committed in 12 August 1944. Both of them were human sacrifices to Satan. Some Italians betrayed the nation and united themselves to the will of the Pope and his numerically limited, but highly coached army. Such a human sacrifice is linked to Satanism and the Synagogue of Satan and has to be categorized consequently. For the category's name is deceiving, a Category: Freemasons excommunicated by the Roman Catholic Church would be more objective and easily to be populated. It would be helpful for WP to create it too. But, after the Wojtyla's Reform of the Code of Canon Law, Satanist Freemasons of the Roman Catholic hierarchy haven't been excommunicated yet. This group of figures needs a category like the current one. Two materials to be added are: Wojtyla for his masonic, and Bergoglio with concerns to the 2016 Satanic genocide of Amatrice. I apologize for a lenghty comment whose contents may hit the self-awareness of many WP users, but that's all true and this is the unique free website to talk about that. In my modest opinion, nothing is off-topic in this case. Any comment would be kindly appreciated. Best regards, Theologian81sp (talk) 07:35, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Theologian81sp: I cannot comment on most of your remarks above, as they are not directly relevant to the work of the Teahouse. But the one bit of advice I can give you is that it is only OK to create a new article about a tropic if there are detailed, reliable published sources that already written about something. We ignore fringe theories, self-published work and topics with no pre-existing coverage. This is because we are an encyclopaedia that simply collates and distils existing material, we don't ever write about our own ideas or original research, or that of other people. But if sources are available in mainstream published outlets then, and only then, might such an article be accepted. I hope this helps. Nick Moyes (talk) 11:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article submission was declined

Hello,

I would like to make a more specific and separate article about the Baltic Forest Hiking (which is part of a long-distance path in Europe) but my article submission was declined. How can I solve this problem? Anna-Sara Reinisch (talk) 18:04, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anna-Sara Reinisch Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. As suggested by commenters on the draft, if you feel that the topic should be a standalone article, you should propose that on the article talk page of the article the subject is currently discussed in. 331dot (talk) 18:16, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Article submission declined

Hey, I create an article Draft: Yalgaar (song) and the reviewer declined the article reason he gave the topic is not notable but it has more than ten reliable sources talking about the topic can u tell me what's the problem. Menu maharaj (talk) 18:21, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Menu mahara Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The reviewer left a comment on the draft that answers your question. In short, it is preferable to have fewer high quality sources than many low quality ones. 331dot (talk) 18:38, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

why did my darft page for jawaun curtis get denied

hi i created a page for Jawaun curtis a formal Artist/musican and my draft got dennied and i just wanted to figure out why....the name of the page is "Jawaun Curtis and THe URL is

[[4]] Anonymos1996 (talk) 18:40, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Anonymos1996 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Your draft did not show with significant coverage in independent reliable sources that this musician meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable musician. Anyone can post music online, so that is not part of the notability criteria. 331dot (talk) 18:45, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy: Draft:Jawaun curtis. Twitter, Instagram and Spotify are not valid refs. See WP:TOOSOON. If his career progresses, maybe revisit in a few years. David notMD (talk) 21:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewed Pages - What?

FYI

– added header --Maresa63 ^Talk 19:01, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. I have recived a mystery email from wikipedia stating that "The page ‪User:Notacoworcat/WikiToken‬ has been reviewed.". I have no idea what this means, and what will happen next. Please tell me more. _{From the UK by}56independent ^Talk 18:57, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Notacoworcat It simply means that someone took a look at the page you created (User:Notacoworcat/WikiToken) and marked it as legitimate (reviewed it), that's all. Nothing more will happen next because of it. Had it contained inappropriate content it might have been marked for deletion - but it doesn't, so you're OK. PS: If you don't like your original username, why not follow guidance at Wikipedia:Changing username, as I find your displayed name quite confusing when it compltely mismatches your username. Nick Moyes (talk) 19:06, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ah yes, i have requested a rename and am currently waiting for a response. Having had it reviewed, can i just move it into the mainstream once im finished?

Cheers, _{56independent/notacoworcat}^Talk 20:03, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Notacoworcat: Does anyone actually use this term, or did you make it up yourself? I don't see it used anywhere doing a simple search. There's another editor named WikiToken, but the account has been inactive for over 13 years. Otherwise, I wonder if this is a way one might refer to the session variable that keeps you logged into your account, allowing you to visit different Wikipedia namespaces. Otherwise, you can edit the Wikipedia:WikiToken article you just started, but will lose the short edit history. Otherwise you'd have to ask an administrator to move the article for you. See Wikipedia:Requested moves. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 21:09, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I made the term up from a combiniation of Wikipedia editor, and Token effort. I was asking whether it was appropiate for me, upon finished writing, to move the page myself without seeking approval. _{56independent/notacoworcat}^Talk 21:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Notacoworcat: I don't think you can move it yourself, now that there's already an article at the destination URL that would have to be overwritten. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 21:26, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What if i "sloppily" move the article, using copy and paste? I do not care about the mechanism of action, but more rather, the policy concerning undrafting your own article. _{56independent/notacoworcat}^Talk

@Notacoworcat: I don't mean to be rude, but I honestly don't think there's enough meat in User:Notacoworcat/WikiToken to warrant it being moved into Wikipedia-space as a humourous essay or article. The irony is that you, yourself, have only made 12 edits in total to mainspace articles, and I really don't feel you have enough experience or knowledge to be creating content about editing styles that others will find of interest or genuinely amusing. That also goes, I feel to User:Notacoworcat/Double Negation - simply leave them where they are in your own userspace and develop them if they genuinely have some merit and interest to other editors. Meanwhile, I'd suggest that messing around less in userspace at this stage, and more focussing on article enhancement would be sensible, which is our main rationale for being here of course. Nick Moyes (talk) 22:47, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I am a Television Personality and Celebrity Event Planner from various reality shows...Need to form a page!!

I am a T.V. Personality, Lifestyle Expert and Reality Television Star. I am listed under one of my shows "Whose Wedding Is It Anyway? But not anywhere else. How would I be able to get my own page much like IMDB to share my experiences and what's been published? Thank You! My wiki name SassiSammi1968 SassiSammi1968 (talk) 22:09, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

SassiSammi1968 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. You seem to have some common misconceptions about what Wikipedia is. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a place for people to tell the world about themselves and what they do. Wikipedia has articles, not mere "pages", and they are typically written by independent editors who take note of a subject receiving significant coverage in independent reliable sources and choose on their own to write about it. If you meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable person or a notable actor, someone will eventually write about you. Trying to force the issue by doing it yourself, while not forbidden, is strongly discouraged, as people naturally write favorably about themselves and have difficulty setting what they know about themselves aside and only writing based on the content of independent sources. Please see the autobiography policy. No one "needs" a Wikipedia article. Wikipedia is not concerned with your internet presence, enhancing search results for you, or in helping your fans. Those are side benefits only.

Please keep in mind that a Wikipedia article is not necessarily desirable. Any article that would exist about you would not be yours to exclusively control. You could not lock it to the text that you might prefer, or prevent others from editing it. Any information about you that appears in independent reliable sources is fair game for content in an article, whether it is good or bad. 331dot (talk) 22:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@SassiSammi1968: If you want a page to promote yourself here "much like IMDB" you'll stand absolutely no chance, I'm afraid. You wrote that IMDB page yourself, and, to be frank, it's pretty OTT even for IMDB, let alone a serious encyclopaedia of Notable Things. If there are two or three in-depth, detailed and totally independent articles that the main stream media have written about you, then someone will probably want to make a page that uses those publications as sources, and you might wake up one morning pleasantly surprised. But we don't use IMDB as it's user-generated, nor do we accept promotional material written by the subject or their PR companies. I'm afraid I could find very little else to show that you meet our Notability criteria for living people, but if you'd care to provide two or three such detailed links we could take a quick look and offer an opinion as to their merit as Reliable Sources. Failing that, we might politely suggest it's simply TOOSOON. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:33, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please help me

Please someone there help me...I worked for hours and hours on an article, and was meticulous in putting in correct citations, and now the whole thing has reverted to what it was two days ago, because of one unimportant reference. I have no idea how to change this back without putting in days worth of work. Will someone please look into this and get back to me?? Fact Confirm (talk) 22:52, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy link: Anthony DeStefano

@Fact Confirm: Your edits are still accessible in the revision history, but I caution you about adding poor sources and commercial links such as to Amazon sales pages. Also, please read WP:COI and disclose if you have a connection with the subject of the article. As a new editor with limited editing history, you're better off for now just suggesting edits on the article's talk page, rather than doing it yourself and experiencing further frustration. See Wikipedia:Edit requests. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:09, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Tim...I am trying hard to follow the rules and reading as much of the directional material as I can. I did not realize that Amazon was considered a poor source. I will work harder at this.

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. See Help:Reverting § Manual reverting for info on how to restore the text (but, as Tim Templeton wrote above, think carefully whether it is really needed to restore it all). The reason your edits were reverted is because you added a reference to Newsmax (RSP entry), which has been deprecated on Wikipedia. Kleinpecan (talk) 23:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How is this called, and how can I add something to it?

Greetings.
I wish to add an authoritative biography's article to the Bruce Lee's... I don't know how it is called, so I can't find how to do it.
Under every article related to him, there is this huge list of related topics, but when going to edit, it only appears as Bruce Lee between double braces, and nothing more. I thought that was called a portal, but it seems it isn't.
I added the category Works about Bruce Lee under Mr. Polly's article, but it seems it isn't enough. So, please, how can I add Matthew Polly's Bruce Lee: A life by the side of Mrs. Lee's memories in that huge list of topics?
Thanks. Maykiwi (talk) 22:56, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Maykiwi: I think you're referring to the Bruce Lee Template Template:Bruce Lee. If you're not comfortable editing the template yourself, you can put an edit request on that template's talk page. See Wikipedia:Edit requests. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 23:14, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How do I cancel an article for creation

Hi, so I created a page when I first made my account (forgetting you need 10 edits to create a page without it being an AfC page) but now that I have reached ten edits I just made the page myself but I had already submitted the AfC request (I did so through the draft page for the article) but I can't find a way to cancel the request. Thanks

Courtesy link: Draft:Ingliston railway station @BakuFromAus: It's easier for us to help when you tell us the name of the article. Also, (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 00:28, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image

I want to use the upper half of this image, but it cannot be cropped. Then how should I use it? Peter Ormond 💬 23:23, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why can't it be cropped? Leijurv (talk) 00:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Leijurv: I don't know. It is showing some error. You can try and see. Peter Ormond 💬 00:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I tried it, and got this error from croptool: Upload failed! [api] Received error: abusefilter-warning : ⧼abusefilter-warning-otrs⧽ Hoping someone more knowledgeable than me can tell you what that means :) Leijurv (talk) 00:20, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I downloaded it and cropped it using GIMP. No issues but see the license conditions on Commons. Regards, Ariconte (talk) 01:00, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ariconte: Could you please upload that? I often have issues with licensing. Peter Ormond 💬 01:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Annotation ...

CBA One Pound note (1952)

Leijurv, my guess would be that it is currency. Here's the Commons page on currency. When I tried to crop it with the crop tool, I got the same "abuse filter warning". Commons has other exciting details regarding the copyright of images of Australian currency here. I think the simplest answer is that reproducing currency has a lot of rules, to deter counterfeiting. The crop no doubt triggered one of the rules. --- Possibly ☎ 03:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

⟵ ⟵ How bout this? Mathglot (talk) 03:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Canada was the first country to feature the Queen on their banknotes

The Queen on an Australian one-pound banknote

@Mathglot: Thank you! Could you fit it in this multiple image? Peter Ormond 💬 03:54, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Canada was the first country to feature the Queen on their banknotes

The Queen on an Australian one-pound banknote

{{{annotations}}}

CBA One Pound note (1952)

@Peter Ormond: The annotated image template is notoriously squirrely, and I gave up after getting it this close with a bit of missing bottom border; feel free to tweak it, but it's crazy-making, I warn you! (I have in mind to create a wrapper template, to smooth out all those bumps in usage of the template, but haven't gotten around to it yet.) Good luck! Mathglot (talk) 04:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ronnie James Dio Wikipedia Page

Hello, I am brand new to editing on Wikipedia and tried to correct several false facts/statements regarding Ronnie Dio. They regarded his second marriage, where he passed away, and several quotes that have absolutely nothing to do with the information provided. I do not know why, but my edit was immediately taken down by a senior editor called Stroness. I assume my next edit will be immediately taken down again. Please contact me on how to submit the correct information to an editor who can make the adjustment permanently. Thanks! SetTheRecordStraight21 (talk) 23:25, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

~~Your edits were reverted because they left the article in a complete mess. When you make an edit, check that it does what you wanted to do before you save the edit~~. --Bduke (talk) 23:53, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And link the article, e,g, Ronnie James Dio.--Bduke (talk) 23:54, 28 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello and welcome to the Teahouse, SetTheRecordStraight21. Your edit was reverted because it introduced several syntax errors, which made the text render in large bold red letters. I have restored your changes regarding his marriage, but not his death, as the additions seem to go in somewhat more detail than is appropriate for an encyclopedia.

For help on how to "how to submit the correct information to an editor", see Wikipedia:Edit requests. Kleinpecan (talk) 01:03, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Latest stable software release/Clubhouse notworking

Hi, I had created a Template:Latest stable software release/Clubhouse to display version details in the infobox of the article Clubhouse (app). But it's not working. Can you tell me what did i done wrong? Anoop (talk) 01:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Anoopspeaks. The ending of the template's name should match the name of the article where it is intended to be used. In this case, it should be Template:Latest stable software release/Clubhouse (app) and not Template:Latest stable software release/Clubhouse. I have moved the page so that it works now. Kleinpecan (talk) 01:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's still not working😭 Anoop (talk) 01:42, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't really know then. It does work for me, though. Kleinpecan (talk) 01:46, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's working now. When i first created the template, i used the article name, but it did not worked, so i renamed it because that method worked with another template. And it didn't worked, i become so confused. Anyway thank you so much. One more thing, is it really nessary to put playstore, appstore links as reference? any alternative for it? Anoop (talk) 02:29, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image without copyrights

Hello, I want to add some images to my article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Timothy_Verdon

I don't have the copyrights, but I have seen some other pages having images that are not free, but allowed because they were altered? Like if I animate a pic, will it be okay to use?

Thanks! Xavierwraith (talk) 01:49, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No. Fair-use images are not permitted in drafts, full stop. Altering a fair-use image does not make the result not fair-use. —A little blue Bori v^_^v ^{Jéské Couriano} 02:24, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Image

Is this image acceptable to use on Wikipedia? Peter Ormond 💬 02:40, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Peter Ormond: The license is appropriate. If you want to add it to an article, you could start a discussion on that article's talk page to get other editor's input. RudolfRed (talk) 03:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

[Bug] Template:Latest stable software release/Aarogya Setu

Hi, Template details are not reflecting in infobox, Please help to fix Anoop (talk) 03:44, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Anoopspeaks:

Fixed the capitalization of the infobox's |name= parameter to match the article name and template. GoingBatty (talk) 04:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Anoop (talk) 05:07, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war between five different people

Not sure which guideline(s) would solve my problem so I'm posting here.

There is an article I'm currently watching that got a large edit that I agree with keeping a few weeks ago. Since then, the new edit has been blanked constantly by no less than seven people, all of which I reverted, or otherwise expanded, but those I didn't revert because I agreed with the latter. The only user who kept being "interested" in the article was a vandal and was since blocked, so no discussion, no WP:BRD which I'm always willing to do, has happened.

If this was done between two people constantly reverting each other, whether or not they argued in the edit summaries instead of leaving the status quo article and discussing in talk, then this would be a regular edit war and I wouldn't be writing this. This couldn't be me 'claiming ownership of the article' as per WP:OWN either since none of the editors, 5 of which are IP users, seem to be interested enough on the topic to create any discussion - I am simply the only interested user in the article, at least on this specific topic. I did however present my argument for keeping the edit, but given that all of the IP users are casual editors, I doubt they even saw my comment.

So, what is my best course of action? Do I keep reverting any unconstructive blankings? Do I do just that but also tell the editor to look at some talk section I would have made, in hopes it changes anything? Do I request semi-protection in hopes that the next registered user to edit there would be willing to do BRD with me? Fasscass (talk) 04:13, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fasscass, welcome to the teahouse. If you are referring to your edits on Order-State of Burgundy, please check the verifiability guideline, you cited no sources in the section that you added. Justiyaya (talk) 05:12, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I would have to agree with the anon on this one, if there are no reliable sources covering the topic. -- Justiyaya (talk) 05:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Fasscass, your edits are unreferenced, and therefore are in violation of our core content policies Verifiabilty and No original research. The onus is on you to provide a reference to a reliable source. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:24, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Justiyaya. Suppose that I cite the edit, what would my options be then? None of the editors reverted on the basis of it having no verifiability, so adding a citation should not stop or properly manage this 'war', which is the issue at hand. I repeat the options I identify:

Do I keep reverting any unconstructive blankings? Do I do just that but also tell the editor to look at some talk section I would have made, in hopes it changes anything? Do I request semi-protection in hopes that the next registered user to edit there would be willing to do BRD with me?

Fasscass (talk) 05:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fasscass, I wouldn't classify these as unconstructive edits because they are reverting an edit that is not verifiable, assuming that you have a reliable source, steam workshop probably won't apply, ~~it is probably unlikely that any editor will revert your edit~~. The best option I would suggest is move on and edit some other article or something else. Going over your listed "options":

Do I keep reverting any unconstructive blankings? (a: The edits are probably not considered unconstructive)
Do I do just that but also tell the editor to look at some talk section I would have made, in hopes it changes anything? (a: Reverting an edit and discussing it will probably not change anything due to the edit being in violation of WP:V)
Do I request semi-protection in hopes that the next registered user to edit there would be willing to do BRD with me? (a: Don't request semi protection unless there is a "significant amount of disruption or vandalism from new or unregistered users") Justiyaya (talk) 06:52, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again Justiyaya. From earlier:

Suppose I cite the edit, what would my options be then?

In the situation that I add the citation, my edits will most probably still be reverted by IP casual editors with no knowledge of when one should revert, or how discussion is carried out in Wikipedia. What then should I do to respond to multiple casual editors reverting the now-valid text? Do I just restore indefinitely as I said earlier? Do I request protection since blanking the text to then never discuss the changes is disruptive, given that this text is now with a citation? Fasscass (talk) 07:08, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Fasscass: When you cite the edit with reliable sources, and if other people revert your edit, you can choose to revert but do not violate WP:3RR when doing so. Discussions can be carried out in someone's talk page or the talk page in the article, remember to ping the editor if you are not using their talk page. If it's a recent change, I still wouldn't consider the edit disruptive, the editor might just be being WP:BOLD. I wouldn't request protection unless multiple new editors are engaging in disruptive editing. Justiyaya (talk) 07:25, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

So no, do not restore indefinitely, as doing so would be a violation of WP:3RR and do not request protection unless there is "significant amount of disruption or vandalism from new or unregistered users". Justiyaya (talk) 07:26, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Terribly bureaucratic and incompatible, as many overly generalized rules here go. Thankfully WP:IAR exists. Thanks for the help though. Fasscass (talk) 09:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Fasscass, I would like to apologize for my statement before that "it is probably unlikely that any editor will revert your edit". I didn't look at the context surrounding your edit. I think "in popular culture" sections generally don't exist in these articles. Justiyaya (talk) 13:44, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Does Wikipedia have an overall editor in chief?

I’ve tried to edit entries relating to family members, only for someone to remove my corrections! Where do I go to request they’re reinstated, please? Phili64 (talk) 05:49, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Phili64 Welcome to Teahouse, everyone is allowed to edit on Wikipedia as long as they follow the guidelines and policies. I believe you're referring to this this edit, as mentioned by the Sumanuil whom reverted your edit via the edit summary. You changed the image name as well, which means the image would not be displayed because the file name is incorrect which is highly likely why your edit was reverted. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 05:55, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "Editor in Chief" here, though the Wikimedia Foundation reserves the ability to intervene in certain, very rare cases, being reverted is not upon them. I would say, you could start by talking to Sumanuil about this. Victor Schmidt (talk) 06:16, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Phili64: Welcome to the Teahouse. There is no editor-in-chief on Wikipedia, as it is a volunteer effort. Directly editing articles of family members is frowned upon, as you would have a conflict of interest. The best thing to do would be to create edit requests on the articles' talk pages. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 06:18, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Phili64: since you have a conflict of interest, the thing to do is ask for changes to the article at the article's talk page. I see you have been trying to change the spelling of one ancestor's name from Peter Paul Dobree to Peter Paul Dobrée. I left a few links on the talk page that show both spellings have been used for about the last two centuries. Discussing the proposed changes on the article talk page will leave a record of the name issue for future readers. --- Possibly ☎ 07:50, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where to set language in Wikipedia?

Where in my personal Wikipedia place can I set the language I prefer? Arno Jacobs (talk) 08:27, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Arno Jacobs Welcome to Teahouse, you can set the language you prefer by going to Special:Preferences > Internationalisation > Select the language you preferred from the dropdown menu and click Save button at the bottom. After which, English Wikipedia should change to the language you have selected. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 08:43, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that worked for me. kind regards, Arno Jacobs (talk) 09:33, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Where can I create a User Page for Wikiprojects in which I do not have one?

I have created a merged account, however I am wondering where to create something along the lines of a 'universal' account to be displayed on Wikiprojects where I lack an account. I recall it as being the Meta-Wiki however I could be wrong. WhenYouWiki (A person) (Talk) 09:24, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, WhenYouWiki your userpage at Meta will show up at any projects where you have not created a seperate user page. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:34, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cool, thanks! WhenYouWiki (A person) (Talk) 09:35, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How is my article moved from the sandbox to the main page?

I can't see any method of attempting to get my article "out there" from the sandbox JustinatDNSYE (talk) 10:22, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I'm looking at your article and I'll be first to admit I'm no administrator but I have been around for a good while and see no possible way that your work could ever be added to the project as-is. Your best bet IMO would be to carefully read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Your_first_article I hope this is of help to you. Aloha27 talk 10:31, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

JustinatDNSYE Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. Drafts may be submitted using Articles for creation. However, your draft would almost certainly be declined, as it does not have any independent reliable sources to support it. A Wikipedia article should summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of notability. In order for you to be successful in writing about your podcast, you need to set aside everything you know about it and only summarize what independent sources have chosen on their own to say about it(no press releases, interviews, brief mentions or primary sources). Most people have great difficulty with that. Please read Your first article. 331dot (talk) 10:35, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

And even if you were successful, you would no longer be able to directly edit it once it was formally placed in the encyclopedia(I think that's what you meant when you said "Main Page", which is a specific page), and would be limited to edit requests. Wikipedia has no interest in helping you publicize your podcast or in enhancing search results for it. 331dot (talk) 10:38, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

If anyone can help to see if I'm missing anything, it would be much appreciated.

I would like to get this approved but if you think I should edit any of the largest parts to express more "notability", please let me know! One of his members from KARD Somin has an approved page and I just wanted to make another one for one of the other members as well. Any advice would be much appreciated! Thank you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:BM_(rapper) Liloandsnitch (talk) 11:08, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Liloandsnitch: welcome to the Teahouse. I haven't looked at the draft closely enough to be able to comment on notability, but one thing that sticks out a bit is the use of external links in the article body. Words in a Wikipedia article shouldn't be linked to external websites, so you should remove all such links; you can do that right away, you don't need to wait for the draft to be reviewed. There's more information in the External links policy. There can be an "External links" section at the end of an article, but that should be kept to a minimum of links, and the Youtube and Soundcloud links to individual songs that are in the draft now should not be added there, either. --bonadea contributions talk 12:09, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Bonadea I seriously appreciate the feedback and thank you for the welcome :)

Just as a note from a first blush, the entire Early Life section lacks any references. You'll need refs for a lot in there. Hometown, siblings, high school, pursuit of dance, college, major. 50.234.188.27 (talk) 13:59, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Incorrect formatting on Alice Cooper's School's Out page

The formatting appears to be incorrect for the following section. Looks like table data is not formatted correctly.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/School's_Out_(song)#Cover_versions 4.19.72.62 (talk) 12:04, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi IP from St Paul - you were right it was malformatted, but it also did not meet the requirements of WP:COVERSONG, so I have deleted it - Best wishes - Arjayay (talk) 12:10, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Photograph

I want to add a photograph to my published article. How do I do this? Thrupence (talk) 13:06, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Smiles.ai

Hi, I’d love to get feedback for this draft. This my first article. Before it is moved to mainspace I need to know if this draft meets all the guidelines to get approved. Your help will be appreciated. Thank you!😊 Maygha19 (talk) 13:43, 29 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Leemour Pelli article

Duchess potatoes

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Drafts for Article Rewrites

Am I Missing Anything?

Why my content is deleted

please recheck my page

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I want to create a Wikipedia page for our Library Organisation, What i have to do?

Table below references

Question about declined draft

Landsmannschaft Zaringia Heidelberg

How to address "Undisclosed Payments" tag?

I am not able to use

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About the “associated acts” field

locking a page

What was the motive behind the teahouse?

Notability based on School sources

From a Draft to the Real Thing

Please indicate the specific problem requiring revision on the page Bill Zimmerman (activist)? Thank you.

Notability with independent sources

Question about Artist Nobility

question about speedy deletion

Article on a Crypto Currency

Need help on spammers

Regarding page creation

New Page for Civil Rights Leader Dr. Robert J. Brown

What's the fastest way to write a featured article? Suggestion

Need Clarifications in my article for moving to live space

Review For Article : Haniya Nafisa

Help review and guide my article about one of travel agent company

Mason Smith article

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tansanische Staatsbürgerschaft. Jeder der die Staatsbürgerschaft der USA besitzt, ist Tansanischer Staatsbürger steht in Wikipedia. ### Das ist falsch. gemeint ist: jeder, der die Staatsbürgerschaft der Vereinigten Republik Tansania hat, ist tansanischer Staatsbürger.

Need to change a picture on the Betty and Barney Hill page, star map is a fake Zeta Reticuli overlay of Betty Hill' star map, its been confirmed that Zeta Reticuli has no planets

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Reversion to earlier page - can most recent version be restored?

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why did my darft page for jawaun curtis get denied

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I am a Television Personality and Celebrity Event Planner from various reality shows...Need to form a page!!

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How is this called, and how can I add something to it?

How do I cancel an article for creation

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Ronnie James Dio Wikipedia Page

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Image without copyrights

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[Bug] Template:Latest stable software release/Aarogya Setu

Edit war between five different people

Does Wikipedia have an overall editor in chief?

Where to set language in Wikipedia?

Where can I create a User Page for Wikiprojects in which I do not have one?

How is my article moved from the sandbox to the main page?

If anyone can help to see if I'm missing anything, it would be much appreciated.

Incorrect formatting on Alice Cooper's School's Out page

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