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Seppi333
 
Editor of the Week
for the week beginning July 9, 2016
Always friendly and constructively active at and around WT:PHARM and Template talk:Infobox drug. Seppi was patient and persistent and succeeded in gaining the first pharmacology FA star in over three years.
Recognized for
Bringing Amphetamine to FA status and Adderall and Methamphetamine to GA status.
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Alternative solution

@Doc James: How woul you feel about titling the section "Drug effects"? Seppi333 (Insert ) 11:50, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

How about "Adverse effects"? Drug effects is for both positive and negative. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:52, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Read the 2nd paragraph of Amphetamine#Physical and the first paragraph of Amphetamine#Psychological; much of that content isn't about an adverse effect. Seppi333 (Insert ) 11:53, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Doc James: So are you fine with "Drug effects"? Seppi333 (Insert ) 11:58, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I do not think "drug effects" is good as that also covers "medical uses" and the positive effects. Most people use the term "side effects" and "adverse effects" as synonyms. Some people argue that they have slightly different meanings, but I doubt most people agree. I am happy with either one of them. Would also support the use of "harmful effects" but should likely bring it to wider discussion before implementing. One could move the positive physical and psychological effects under a heading in "uses". Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:02, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. For now, change it to adverse effects in the 4 articles; while it seems a bit stupid to list effects like the ones I pointed out under that heading, one could argue that those effects can be considered "adverse" since what constitutes an undesired or harmful effect is subjective, whereas assertions about abuse and escalating doses are simply inconsistent with the definition of side effects. Alternatively, we could use "non-therapeutic effects" if that works for you. Seppi333 (Insert ) 12:10, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"Adverse effects" has consensus. I have asked if Casliber is also good with that. Not a big fan of "non-therapeutic effects". Overly long and not commonly used. Other wise will make the change tomorrow if no concerns. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:22, 23 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Doc James: Can you cut "Long-term adverse effects" and change the "Side effects" to "Adverse effects" in nicotine? Same thing in methamphetamine. Seppi333 (Insert ) 12:45, 23 May 2019 (UTC)°[reply]

Sure done. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 06:43, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Doc James: Ty. Seppi333 (Insert ) 07:48, 24 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Break

Very glad that you are just on a break! Have a good time.--Iztwoz (talk) 08:26, 5 June 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Comprehensive open release of fully identifiable medical data and biomedical hackathons

@Evolution and evolvability: FYI, I finally contacted the head of SVAI about publishing in WJM, among other things. He's going to get back to me within a week once he's had some time to go through my email. Seppi333 (Insert ) 07:50, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for your comment here - I entirely agree - and also wow at your expertise with the addiction article. Was wondering if you had any time to review and/or comment here for the article I wrote and had a lot of help with, as I've been trying to improve the whole category. Aiming for FA nom at some point soon. Thanks so much :) --[E.3][chat2][me] 10:53, 8 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@E.3: Hi there. I'll take a look but I don't have a whole lot of time at the moment. If/when you nominate the article at FAC, let me know. Seppi333 (Insert ) 03:53, 10 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi how are you? Thanks again for helping with this article. I was hoping you might consider reviewing this again per FA criteria. Thanks :) --[E.3][chat2][me] 06:42, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sure, I'll take a look soon. Seppi333 (Insert ) 09:20, 7 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Fantastic reviews and support so far, the article with all of everyones help has become more interesting than I ever hoped! --[E.3][chat2][me] 12:11, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Template:Smallcaps all

Hello, I have compeletely rewritten the source code for this template, which should resolve the last regression from your report. And I dropped the parser function, using CSS only to transform letter case. Would you like to review my change? Thanks. -- Great Brightstar (talk) 09:53, 8 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata

The interlanguage links for Addiction and Substance dependence seem to be a bit mixed up. Are you interested in helping straighten it out? (Ping me if you are.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@WhatamIdoing: I haven't actually looked at the data pages, but what I expect is that other language variants of WP conflate the 2 as one disorder, which would more accurately be termed a substance use disorder. If that's the issue, I'm not sure it'd be possible to accurately link the articles on addiction/dependence/SUD to the right wikidata item without revising, merging, and/or moving articles from other language variants of WP to match the article title with the scope of the article content. I might do more harm than good trying to fix that since I'd have to use machine-translation when editing other Wikipedias. Seppi333 (Insert ) 18:25, 29 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds complicated. I can tell that some of the titles are "wrong", but as you say, it's not necessarily clear whether the title accurately represents the subject of the article. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:09, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Advice

Hey Seppi333, I have been meaning to contact you for a while now, with some questions about approaching a few articles, as I noticed on your user page that you may have some relevant experience. I have mainly edited bio related articles on wikipedia, but am looking to make a foray into statistics articles, because a number could use some revamping; specifically, Matrix calculus, structural equation modeling, factor analysis, and mixed models. Many of these articles fail to cite seminal articles, or key formulations of matrix differentiation (Magnus and Neudecker), and overall fail to link together with coherent notation, not even within each literature(i.e. factor analysis lit tends to use certain symbols and equations, but the factor analysis page ignores a lot of this). Do you have any recommendations about how to approach a project like this? I've started in my sandbox with FA here

Petergstrom (talk) 00:48, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, I'm actually in the same boat as you when it comes to editing articles that are unrelated to my off-wiki skill set. In terms of editing those articles, the only thing you should really keep in mind is whether or not your edits are compliant with MOS:MATH. Everything else is pretty much the same as any other article in terms of citation policy. As for standardizing the notation with the literature, I don't see any problem with that and I'd encourage you to do that; you might want to just leave a note on the talk page explaining what you're doing if you completely revamp a section though. Seppi333 (Insert ) 01:42, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Petergstrom, on the question of symbols and equations, you might be able to get some help at WP:MATH. Also, the visual editor has an equation editing tool, which you might want to try out. WhatamIdoing (talk) 03:08, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Fixing GFY

Sorry this got a bit fraught. I didn't fix the dablink once I thought to check for it because opening that huge list to edit it gave me a wall of text of which the main message seemed to be that a simple change to that list would be inadequate and would be overwritten. I figured that as you knew what was going on you'd know how to sort it out. I think we now offer help to all sorts of readers with that dab page, whether they want a gene or internet slang (or an airport or an imprint).

Good luck in your project to sort out all the other ambiguously named genes. PamD 16:08, 27 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cathelicidin discussion location

Hi Seppi,

Would you mind if we moved the Cathelicidin discussion from WT:MCB -> WT:MOLBIO, since it's a topic relevant to both the cell biologists and geneticists? No worries either way, but I'm hoping that centralising towards the main talkpage will also help keep cross-talk between the communities easier. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)talk 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Evolution and evolvability: Sure thing. Seppi333 (Insert ) 05:59, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your editing work!

Puddleglum2.0 Have a talk? 17:29, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Puddleglum2.0: Haha, thanks. Been a while since I got one of those! Seppi333 (Insert ) 17:33, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
:D you're welcome! Puddleglum2.0 Have a talk? 17:34, 30 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks Ozzie. Seppi333 (Insert ) 01:06, 18 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata query gene/protein article names

SELECT DISTINCT ?gene ?geneLabel ?hgncsym ?gname ?pname
 {
   ?gene wdt:P31 wd:Q7187 .
   ?gene wdt:P703 wd:Q15978631 .
   ?gene wdt:P353 ?hgncsym .
   ?gene wdt:P688 ?protein .
    OPTIONAL { 
    ?article 	schema:about ?gene ;
                schema:name ?gname ;
 			    schema:isPartOf <https://en.wikipedia.org/> .
    }
    OPTIONAL { 
    ?article 	schema:about ?protein ;
                schema:name ?pname ;
 			    schema:isPartOf <https://en.wikipedia.org/> .
    }
   SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" } .
 }

Click here to launch the Wikidata query

This gives you 1.gene item, 2.item name, 3.HGNC name, 4.(optional)article name linked from gene item, 5.(optional)article name linked from protein item. Best--SCIdude (talk) 17:23, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Also this gives you all family items with enwiki articles (453):

SELECT DISTINCT ?family ?familyLabel ?fname
 {
   VALUES ?ftype { wd:Q417841 wd:Q67015883 wd:Q67101749 wd:Q49695242 wd:Q68461428 wd:Q420927 wd:Q78154500 wd:Q78155096}
   ?family wdt:P31 ?ftype .
    ?article 	schema:about ?family ;
                schema:name ?fname ;
 			    schema:isPartOf <https://en.wikipedia.org/> .
   SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language "en" } .
 }

Click here to launch the Wikidata query

--SCIdude (talk) 17:51, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly what I needed, thanks! Seppi333 (Insert ) 22:30, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Seppi333: I have finished work on several hundred WD items that were created from new articles in the early days. They are now integrated as well and should show up in the above queries. Also the 2nd query was updated with the classes restriction enzyme type, transmembrane transport protein superfamily, protein complex, group of protein complexes, family of protein complexes, protein fragment. So you might want to rerun the queries. --SCIdude (talk) 17:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I appreciate it. Seppi333 (Insert ) 19:58, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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broken transclusions?

Which transclusions were broken? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amphetamine&oldid=932066097 Whywhenwhohow (talk) 05:44, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I should’ve said “refs broken in transclusions”, as the named refs you modified are explicitly called in them. IIRC, it was all of them. Seppi333 (Insert ) 15:37, 23 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of human protein-coding genes 1 for deletion

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GP5

GP5 has moved to GP5 (gene). I've updated everything I could find but you may need to feed the python behind List of human protein-coding genes 2, assuming it still exists. Certes (talk) 18:29, 9 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there. Thanks for letting me know. I'll update it once the AFD ends. Seppi333 (Insert ) 07:44, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

ProteinBoxBot

I noticed that you started a discussion here [1] some time ago. Would you be willing to check what the bot is doing if it will be reactivated? If so, I think we can ask user Fram to reactivate it. My very best wishes (talk) 22:47, 11 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It probably isn't necessary to reactivate the bot since the functionality for making new pages can be user-activated; the website/script for doing it is mentioned in the thread you linked. Seppi333 (Insert ) 07:46, 12 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I tried, but this is too much trouble. Whatever. Here is main problem with this bot: it does not copy any info from the Uniprot annotations. My very best wishes (talk) 00:16, 13 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Template: Annual readership

Hello. Template: Annual readership. Is the problem you mentioned in this diff fixable? Can you do it? I would really like that useful link in the banner title. If you can't do it, who can we ask? -- Timeshifter (talk) 07:16, 6 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there; I probably could fix that, but I don't have time to work on Wikipedia content until this weekend. I'll look into addressing this then. Seppi333 (Insert ) 08:46, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Timeshifter: I restored the link with url-encoding for the page title in this edit: Special:Diff/938123330/941172644. The example below from the template documentation previously didn't link to the correct page and the header didn't render correctly due to the space in the page title; it works now though. Seppi333 (Insert ) 01:14, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I added {{page views}} to rubber duck. It is working great. -- Timeshifter (talk) 11:08, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

question about images rights

Hello Seppi333 and please excuse my very weak english.

First, let me thank you for your great contributions here, You are really an inspiration.

second, since you are an expert in this kind of stuff I have a question regarding images rights. commons doesn't accept NC-ND images like i was told here and i know that this image is a proprietary work.

my question is: are the rights of the image restricted to the file only, or does it extend to the informations in it? and can i create a SVG copy of it using Inkscape for the use in commons?

if not, is it OK to go around the rights by changing some details in the image I will creat (colors,Drawing of membranes, removing some enzymes....) and argue that it is my own work Based on informations I have read in several research papers and not only on that image. Is changing the way of drawing images with rights and modiffing them a little an acceptable way or not?

i hope my question is clear, and i would love to see your answer. thank you --Momas (talk) 13:10, 7 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. I'm pretty sure that the text on Commons is CC-BY-SA; the copyright license for the image itself is whatever license is listed on that page.
As for redrawing images, it's a bit more complicated. Unless you redraw it from scratch, the license for the original image applies to whatever you've modified. If the original license restricts modification, you can't legally republish a modified version of it. Seppi333 (Insert ) 08:45, 10 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Momas: Re the rights of the image restricted to the file only, or does it extend to the informations in it? - sorry, for some reason I was thinking you were asking about images on Commons as opposed to images in general. The copyright applies to the image file itself and any copyrightable elements within an image. So, for example, if you create an image file depicting something and include actual prose within an image file, the file as whole and the prose are both copyrightable; the copyright holder can use different licenses for different copyrightable elements of an image, but that's not really that common. Unless the copyright holder indicates that there are multiple licenses which apply to different components of an image, a license for the image would also apply to all copyrightable elements within it.
Re and can i create a SVG copy of it using Inkscape for the use in commons? Absolutely. If you redraw an image, you own the copyright to your version. Seppi333 (Insert ) 02:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Wikiproject Anatomy newsletter #7

Released September 2020  · Previous newsletter

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What's new

Our new barnstar
new good articles since last newsletter include Epiglottis, Human nose, Pancreas, Prostate, Thymus, Trachea, T tubule, Ureter and Vagina, with Anatomical terms of location also awaiting review
A made-up eponymous term is used in our article that eventually makes it in to university anatomy teaching slides and a journal article
We reach a project goal of 150 B-class articles in July 2020, increasing by about 50% over five years, and are one good article away from our goal of 40 GAs, doubling over the last five years
In the real world, Terminologia Anatomica 2 and Terminologia Embryologica 2 are released ([2], [3]). Terminologia Anatomica 2 is now included in anatomy article infoboxes, and there is ongoing discussion about updating TE as well
A beautiful new barnstar is released ({{subst:The Anatomist Barnstar}})
Portal:Anatomy receives some attention, and two related portals are deleted (vale Human body and Cranial nerve portals)
Some things left out from past newsletters - A large amount of redirects are created to help link plural structures, and Cerebellum ([4]) and Hippocampus ([5]) are published in Wikiversity.

I have been asked to write up something introducing the Featured article (FA) process to anatomy editors, but I took a more general approach to explaining why one might want to contribute featured content and the benefits to the editor and to Wikipedia. I also tried to address some misconceptions about the FA process, and give you a guide that is somewhat specific to health content should you decide to take the dive.

A vital purpose of Featured articles is to serve as examples for new and aspiring Wikipedia editors. FAs are often uniquely comprehensive for the Internet. They showcase some of our best articles, and can enhance Wikipedia's reputation if they are maintained to standard—but in an "anyone can edit" environment, they can easily fall out of standard if not maintained. Benefits to the writer include developing collaborative partnerships and learning new skills, while improving your writing and seeing it exposed to a broader audience—all that Wikipedia is about!

Looking more specifically at WP Anatomy's featured content, the Featured media is impressive and seems to be an Anatomy Project strength. The Anatomy WikiProject has tagged 4 FAs, 1 Featured list, and 30 Featured media. Working towards upgrading and maintaining older Featured articles could be a worthwhile goal. Immune system is a 2007 FA promotion, and bringing it up to date would make a nice collaboration between WikiProject Medicine and the Anatomy WikiProject. Hippocampus is another dated promotion that is almost 50% larger than when promoted, having taken on a bit of uncited text and new text that might benefit from a tune-up.

Whether tuning up an older FA at Featured article review, or attempting a new one to be reviewed at Featured article candidates, taking the plunge can be rewarding, and I hope the advice in my essay is helpful.

You can read the essay "Achieving excellence through featured content" here.

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How can I contribute?

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October 2020

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Stop icon This is your only warning; if you use Wikipedia for soapboxing, promotion or advertising again, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. It is entirely inappropriate to use WP to advertise positions to be filled. As an administrator, I have used my discretion and merely removed that portion of your postings. I see you did something of the sort in August. I have great respect for your contributions here, having originally been in this field myself, but WP is an encyclopedia and the talk pages and workgroups are for discussing contributions to the encyclopedia DGG ( talk ) 05:55, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: Recruiting an advisory board member is completely different than hiring; an advisor has no pre-defined job role/responsibility at a company. They literally just answer questions that are posed to them and offer advice/contacts of their own volition, which is incentivized by the upside potential of startup equity and the facilitation of that end by doing so. For another, they're not considered to be part of a C corporation's governing board under US law as the board of directors is or employed by the corporation a la its officers/agents or salaried/wage-earning employees who are hired for a particular job role at the company (NB: technically a founder could "co-found" a company and not be assigned a role/position in the articles of incorporation or do anything yet be issued equity, but that tends to entail rather bad outcomes).
Members of a board of advisors are basically investors who offer information as a service instead of capital to a company. An advisory board as a whole merely serves as a sounding board for ideas relevant to the backgrounds (i.e., functional areas) of the domains experts who compose it. I could have simply used Wikiproject talk pages as said sounding board every time I've have a topically-relevant question to see if anyone bites, but it's less annoying and far less spammy if I just target those inquiries toward Wikipedians with the relevant backgrounds, should there be any. Case in point: what happened with User talk:Doc James, with whom I now email and videoconference instead. I previously asked a question about pipetting hardware in one of those projects, but I ended up deleting the thread for the reasons I mentioned (addendum: my CSO also solved that problem a few days later anyway).
In spite of this, I can see why one might construe it as a promotional ad for a position at a company given that I offered equity and stated an incentive (i.e., upside potential), which is inherently promotional. While I'm sure any Wikipedian would volunteer information I'm looking for willingly if they had it (given that it's what practically all content editors do), it's conventional for an early stage startup company to offer ~0.5-1.0% of its equity (which is almost always completely worthless; ours is $0.0001/share and my entire company is worth $1) in exchange for ongoing advice. The reason that's done is that it incentivizes the provision of more useful/thoughtful responses to informational requests and network contacts they'd otherwise not provide, as that worthless paper gains value if the company successful. I also wanted to avoid taking advantage of other Wikipedians' informational generosity merely because we're all volunteers that aim to provide free, accurate, and up-to-date information to our readers here on Wikipedia. Hence, my equity offer.
Preventing me from making such offers to discuss topics - which are relevant to both my company and the WikiProjects I post them to - privately is merely going to make me discuss said topics publicly on WP more despite the liability it can potentially pose if I fail to frame the question appropriately. I've already done so more times than I've requested an advisor over the past few months. Seppi333 (Insert ) 13:17, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I have to agree DGG. I deeply respect your contributions, but adverts on Wiki Project talk pages are completely inappropriate. Boghog (talk) 17:56, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, I suppose my perspective on how affiliated organizations support/regard entrepreneurialism among their members has been a bit biased by my experiences over the last 4 months; perhaps I would have thought differently otherwise, although I have received support privately. In any event, if that’s how the community generally considers that behavior, mea culpa. I’ll still pursue the info I need if I think I can get it here from a project, but I won’t offer anything for it. That’s the way I’ve always approached things here that pertain to my off-wiki life.
That being said, if sample preparation (analytical chemistry) were a truly comprehensive FA instead of a virtually useless stub for a reader’s purposes, it might have obviated my need to even write that post. Seppi333 (Insert ) 20:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
First of all, I want to apologize for automatically using so strong a warning--the templates are fixed-wording, but there were other ones available, and I should have used them. I recognize your confusion, for most volunteer activities are a little different than Wikipedia The English WP has from the beginning been a project focussed on amateurs. From the earliest days, professionals have participated, but there's a strong social attitude that everyone here is equal, and that people here with professional roles or as experts should not try to dominate. There is also a very strong attitude here of non-commercialism--we are not exactly hostile to commercial organizations, but we tend to go very carefully with them. I soon learned it was probably better to participate in other areas than my own professional field of library science--as a just-retired teacher of the subject, I wanted to encourage my students develop, but I also expected to be in charge, and that doesn't work here.
In the last few years, there's been a tendency towards increased professional participation in several areas, most notably medicine. We're delighted to have the expertise, but expertise has to be shown, not asserted. The eventual result was the formation of a new affiliated organization,Wiki Project Med [6] within the movement.
I've been member of the advisory boards of several publishers , and it was not as a potential investor, but as a very significant customer. There was potential conflict of interest, and I and the other librarians on these boards considered essentially as mutual benefit; scientific journal publishing is an oligopoly, and their intention was not that we buy more journals -- for we all always bought as many as we could afford in any case -- but that they could find out what we wanted, so that at least we wouldn't cancel subscriptions, and we could try to persuade them to do what we wanted, so we could justify subscriptions.We had a marginal influence. . We were never paid, at least in money, but entertained in a generous way, as judged by academic standards. We all did recognize there was a potential conflict, and I accordingly declined one or two such offers.
My main current activity here is in dealing with people who want to insert promotional articles for the companies or professional practices, and especially the paid PR writers, and most especially the paid PR writers who pretend to be volunteers. The basic approach of the English WP is to be quite intolerant of such activities and such material. I therefore did indeed pick up specifically on the offer of money. There is considerable discussion here of what exactly constitutes a volunteer for those who may be employed by some aspect of the movement in some related capacity, but the one thing really avoided is mention of money. Even the WMF, when it wants to advertise a paid position, does it via some other channel than the actual encyclopedia, such as one of the related mailing lists or blogs or their own wiki.
And , by the way, I agree with you that articles on routine laboratory equipment is a particularly difficult range of subject to write about, partially because of the lack of sources other than manufactuerer's advertisements. Given the sources, it is possible to write an informative article, and if you're in a position to help here, I can give some further advice. DGG ( talk ) 09:44, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@DGG: Re: First of all, I want to apologize for automatically using so strong a warning--the templates are fixed-wording, but there were other ones available, and I should have used them. Heh, no hard feelings. I appreciate the sentiment.
Re: From the earliest days, professionals have participated, but there's a strong social attitude that everyone here is equal, and that people here with professional roles or as experts should not try to dominate. ... We're delighted to have the expertise, but expertise has to be shown, not asserted. I 100% agree on both points. The reason I posted that on Wikipedia is that I know that (1) there are a lot of smart people here, (2) the vast majority of us are autodidacts, (3) some of us have PhDs or professional roles in analytical chemistry, MCB, genomics, or bioinformatics, and (4) some of us are self-taught domain experts. If the 4th wasn't true, I wouldn't have received requests from professors and industry professionals to reuse my work in neuroscience textbooks (via private email) and pharmacology colloquium presentations (via my talk page) or have been plagiarized on several occasions by various groups of academics/authors (the latter mostly pertains to material I've written in the articles on trace amines, TAARs, and amphetamine; I'm sure it's happened more times than the handful of instances I've discovered, but only one group did it egregiously enough to cause me to enforce my copyright - e.g., see the images they used).
Re: I've been member of the advisory boards of several publishers , and it was not as a potential investor, but as a very significant customer. Advisory boards for established corporations and even different types of corporations and businesses differ from startup advisory boards. Even among startups, a 501(c)(3) advisory board is going to operate a lot differently than for-profit (S/B/C) corporations. VCs won't really invest in a company if they aren't incorporated as a Delaware C corporation, so most for-profit startups, like us, are incorporated as such in Delaware.
Re: My main current activity here is in dealing with people who want to insert promotional articles for the companies or professional practices, and especially the paid PR writers, and most especially the paid PR writers who pretend to be volunteers. Honestly, I think promotional articles and advertising on Wikipedia are wholly pointless as a mode of business marketing for revenue generation. Even if I didn't think that way, engaging in such practices would violate my integrity; right now, I have a COI in relation to the use of third-generation sequencers as part of an in vitro diagnostic medical device for infectious diseases, but you won't catch me dead trying to advance my company's or business partners' interests in my edits to the mainspace if only for that reason alone. Being a for-profit startup CEO might make me a de-facto capitalist, but I am still a Wikipedian. I place exactly equal value on my company's interests and Wikipedia's interests and will never edit the mainspace in a manner that begets a COI for the former, the latter, or both.
Re: the one thing really avoided is mention of money. Even the WMF, when it wants to advertise a paid position, does it via some other channel than the actual encyclopedia Fair point. I should've recognized that. My bad.
Re: I agree with you that articles on routine laboratory equipment is a particularly difficult range of subject to write about, partially because of the lack of sources other than manufactuerer's advertisements. Given the sources, it is possible to write an informative article, and if you're in a position to help here, I can give some further advice. Heh, if I had the background knowledge, I wouldn't be looking for expert advisors. That being said, I'm actually looking for two: one to advise us on a protocol for the uniform lysis of all known human pathogens (~1400 species) and one for a DNA/RNA depletion protocol (NB: I am looking for something more specific than the latter, but the details are proprietary; I am going to pose a question to MCB/MOLBIO relevant to that within the next day or two though). What I should've done is contacted authors of the publications in each subdomain that I've identified as being established experts that actively conduct research in those areas of NGS sample preparation. I suppose I should've done that in the first place instead of posting here. Also, while I have no problem with expanding sample preparation (analytical chemistry) at some point in the future – and I probably will do so when the time comes – doing so right now is actually a COI for me as it pertains to my company's IP; this is because we will need to conduct primary/original research to identify said protocols and then commercialize them for use with our device. I'd only be willing to expand that article as it pertains to sample preparation for DNA/RNA sequencing (which will become the scope of my domain expertise) after said COI for my company is a non-issue in ~12–18 months from now. I don't currently have or foresee me having any COI in the future that might affect what or bias how I write about that topic with respect to Wikipedia's interests, so I don't expect WP:COI to be an issue; however, if it is, I will disclose it in advance and avoid editing that article if necessary.
Addendum – just to clarify what I'm saying in this last point: I have a reason not to work on this article right now. I don't even have time to work on articles at the moment anyway, so I wouldn't be able to do so regardless. My monthly edit history statistics illustrate just how much time I've had to spare over the past 6 months for WP editing relative to the preceding 7 years. Seppi333 (Insert ) 00:20, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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New Page Review queue September 2021

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After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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New Page Patrol newsletter October 2022

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Much has happened since the last newsletter over two months ago. The open letter finished with 444 signatures. The letter was sent to several dozen people at the WMF, and we have heard that it is being discussed but there has been no official reply. A related article appears in the current issue of The Signpost. If you haven't seen it, you should, including the readers' comment section.

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New Pages Patrol newsletter January 2023

Hello Seppi333,

New Page Review queue December 2022
Backlog

The October drive reduced the backlog from 9,700 to an amazing 0! Congratulations to WaddlesJP13 who led with 2084 points. See this page for further details. The queue is steadily rising again and is approaching 2,000. It would be great if <2,000 were the “new normal”. Please continue to help out even if it's only for a few or even one patrol a day.

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Minimum deletion time: The previous WP:NPP guideline was to wait 15 minutes before tagging for deletion (including draftification and WP:BLAR). Due to complaints, a consensus decided to raise the time to 1 hour. To illustrate this, very new pages in the feed are now highlighted in red. (As always, this is not applicable to attack pages, copyvios, vandalism, etc.)

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Thank you for your incredible contributions to amphetamine-related topics. I have definitely learned a lot from those articles :-) --WikiLinuz {talk} 08:15, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Hehe, thanks. Seppi333 (Insert ) 13:33, 6 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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New Pages Patrol newsletter June 2023

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New Page Review queue April to June 2023

Backlog

Redirect drive: In response to an unusually high redirect backlog, we held a redirect backlog drive in May. The drive completed with 23851 reviews done in total, bringing the redirect backlog to 0 (momentarily). Congratulations to Hey man im josh who led with a staggering 4316 points, followed by Meena and Greyzxq with 2868 and 2546 points respectively. See this page for more details. The redirect queue is steadily rising again and is steadily approaching 4,000. Please continue to help out, even if it's only for a few or even one review a day.

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Amphetamine tolerance and neurobiological effects of physical exercise

I can't remember if it was you, or somebody else, but I recall reading somewhere that physical exercise (at least, aerobic exercise) can inhibit or potentially reverse amphetamine tolerance. Is this true? If so, do you happen to know what mechanism(s) produce(s) this? Off the top of my head, the main thing that comes to mind is what's stated in the NB of PE article whereby the urinary metabolite of phenethylamine dramatically increases, in addition to the fact that according to this source, the urinary metabolite of phenethylamine positively measures the treatment response to amphetamine for ADHD. I'm not too familiar with other mechanisms involved, if any.


In any event, I'm actually not sure of the significance of this inhibition and/or reversal of tolerance in a clinical/treatment context either. I'm under the impression that tolerance only develops to a handful of cognitive and physical effects (e.g., the anorectic effect, euphoria [when not exercising], the increased 'liking' affect [as opposed to 'wanting' which I believe undergoes sensitization and produces outcomes such as preferred placement conditioning which can clinically manifest as improved school attendance, among other things], and now I'm gonna stop listing things because I've lost my train of thought, excuse my pathological lack of proof reading lol).


I'm also under the impression that tolerance doesn't develop to some effects, like the aforementioned 'wanting' aspect of motivation, as well as the degree of promoted cognitive arousal at a given dose unless one has been awake for a number of days (as opposed to just moderate sleep deprivation [i.e., slept 5-6 hours instead of 8-9] where one will wont feel as 'awake' on their prescribed dose of amphetamine due to starting from a worse baseline of having slept less the previous night), so I don't know if physical exercise would be relevant for augmenting this drug effect.


In saying that, does this inhibition or reduction of tolerance, for whatever effects happen to go under tolerance, have a notable effect? My understanding is that tolerance is amphetamine just plateaus after the indicated FDA/manufacturer 7 day period for titration and that patients can just take their dose everyday and receive the drug effect with trivial differences that are related to one's day-to-day homeostasis. But if it does reduce tolerance and has a notable effect, can this be distinguished between the adjunctive effects exercise confers from just dumping the brain with additional NE and DA? (i.e., this is discussed in the 'sweat it out' sys review that I think you cited back in the day). Is this all a case of it can't be answered assertively because some things haven't been studied? I don't mind if you want to answer with a "well, theoretically speaking". It's not like this is going on the amphetamine article anyway. Also, is all remotely coherent? Apologies if not, I'm writing this at 4 am and my own medication has long run its course.


Also, out of curiosity, is the Narcolepsy revision for the amphetamine article just a case of everyone biding their time for a review to come out that states a specific a degree of treatment efficacy, rather than just asserting treatment efficacy outright? I ask because I wanna have a crack at drafting some of it on my actual account, not the logged out IP user state that I use for asking incoherent questions at 4 AM.


THANKS! And... um... good luck with reading this all... My sincerest apologies in advance lmao


103.51.113.0 (talk) 17:10, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

lol... Exercise decreases amphetamine reward sensitization and - as a consequence - self-administration, which is technically a reduction in tolerance, but it's to a very specific drug effect. Psychostimulant self-administration is tightly linked to the neuropsychological effects induced by higher levels of ΔFosB expression. Covered here: Amphetamine#Behavioral treatments and other parts of the addiction section. I don't know to what extent it decreases other forms of drug tolerance, and I can't really speak to what extent it might since I haven't read much research on this topic beyond that. It's not likely to be an active area of research given how niche the research topic of "neuropsychological effects of physical exercise on responses to amphetamine". As to how it does that, it's much more likely to be a result of skeletal muscle acting like an endocrine gland during physical activity through the secretion of myokines. It secretes a fair number of blood-brain barrier-permeable and/or blood-cerebrospinal fluid barrier-permeable neurotrophic factors, among hundreds of other cytokines and hormones that can access the brain from the periphery. I can't really point to any one of them in particular as being primarily responsible, but that is the only feasible mechanism through which long-term neuroplastic and behavioral changes could be induced by exercise and impinge upon the behavioral response to amphetamine and ΔFosB/c-Fos immunoreactivity (gene expression) in the striatum.
I don't think phenethylamine has much involvement in anything beyond the short-term effects of physical exercise. Lower brain PEA levels may have some involvement in ADHD, but increasing those levels transiently wouldn't induce long-term neuroplasticity, particularly considering how short a half-life phenethylamine has. It probably has some involvement in mediating euphoria, but I can't say to what extent. Even so, since euphoria requires simultaneous activation of distinct hedonic hotspots in the human brain - which respond to non-identical neurochemical inputs - it's implausible that just one compound could cause it. It's more likely a multitude of endogenous euphoriant compounds like phenethylamine, endocannabinoid, endogenous opiates, etc. that are released from different tissue sites during exercise and, in turn induce a euphoriant effect by acting on distinct hedonic hotspots simultaneously.
Tolerance to most of amphetamine's drug effects does plateau at therapeutic doses, but given how mild the level of tolerance is, I don't really think a short-term or even a persistent reversal of amphetamine tolerance at therapeutic doses is particularly notable. It's not like sudden cessation of intake produces an even remotely remarkable withdrawal syndrome; the cessation of treatment-related drug effects is likely much more noticeable than any withdrawal-related drug effects. Seppi333 (Insert ) 20:46, 27 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]