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Welcome to my talk page! Feel free to leave comments, critiques, etc., below. Unless you specifically request that I answer on your talk page, I'll be answering here, as I prefer to keep as much of the conversation in one place as possible. Thanks!
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DYK for Bay Area Puma Project
Gatoclass (talk) 17:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi, did you know that this template has recently been upgraded and has various options for accepting/declining a request. I just ask because there are some queries to your declines on the Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects page. Regards, Martinmsgj 10:47, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Greeks in Finland
Guys, you have given me all the excusess that you could give me and it looks like that editor has different opinions about this article. Could please restore the page and talk to me before you make the deletion becouse Im tired or writting the article 10 times. Here is a history of the previus discussion that lead us to remove the "speedy deletion" tag and give us more time to add content. Few hours later you deleted the page, did you see the history tab with the discusions that I had?
Greeks in Finland. The page is not a spam, it describes the Media published by an ethnic group. Dosent promote any specific product becouse there is no product here. I would say that has encyclopedic value since the content concerns around 1000 people that the live in Finland. Also similar pages like Greeks in Sweeden has less content then this one, actually many pages related to the subject of Greeks in -somecountry- have less then 100 words. So why pages with less content then this one are still up and this one is under threat?
It does nothing but promote some entity and would require a fundamental rewrite in order to become encyclopedic You can put the Template:Hanon tag on the page to contest to this. If you are able to rewrite it so it looks more like a encyclopedic item it won't be deleted. I have had this happen to me and my article looked about the same as yours. (Also, Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages, to sign them, click the signature button at the top of the edit box) Cheers --Nz26 (talk) 05:04, 10 March 2009 (UTC) Well, I dont know how we messure value in Wikipedia but for the Greeks in Finland and for that ethnic group this information is very valid and important. In adittion, the page was created and is promoted to those 100s of greeks in Finland in order to add more content and historical information about Diaspora. I hope that you dont expect that one man will write the whol history of greeks in finland but rather you could expect that a page will stimulate others to contribute contennt. Isnt that the philosophy of a wiki? Moreover, as said before I started by listing media and social clubs, I dont have information on famous greeks in finland and I dont like to start promoting living persons. I will add more content as it goes so please give more time in order to add more content. I do understand your concern but I think that even that small portion of text helps and informs a small group of Greeks living in finland and has its value becouse it demostrates that people of that ethnic origin live/work and by their actions create history and art in the place that they live. Many thanks, waiting for your reply.Makrygiannis74 (talk) 06:38, 10 March 2009 (UTC) You have put the hangon tag on the page so that is fine. Speedy deletion will be removed once content is fixed. Cheers Nz26 (talk) 06:45, 10 March 2009 (UTC) Do we have deadline for this? Makrygiannis74 (talk) 07:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC) Unsure. Ill remove the tag on the page. Please develop the page more, Otherwise Ill flag it again Nz26 (talk) 09:40, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Tessa Souter Query
The original article I created on Tessa Souter was declined and the the advice given was 'Please provide more information on why the person or group is worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia, and cite reliable, published third-party sources, so that the information in the article is verifiable.' So I then went and added a load of press quotes from 'third-party sources' that are all 'verifiable' and you are now telling me 'Each quote needs a ref, otherwise it needs to be removed. This article has little content and lot's of quotes, which is not really encyclopedic.' So now you seem to be telling me there are too many 'third party sources'. I can add complete references to the quotes no problem at all but I would appreciate some constructive advice on getting this article accepted as at the moment the decisions that have been made so far seem extremely subjective and not helpful. Do I need to remove some of the quotes? Tessa Souter is an extremely well documented and notable Jazz Singer and worthy of inclusion on Wikipedia so please tell me what you think is needed to get the article accepted as I have followed the advice given to no avail. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.198.131.98 (talk) 02:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
- First, all quotes need references...that's one of the things that makes them "verifiable". Second, your references, and especially the quotes, need to contribute materially and give encyclopedic information about the person; in writer's parlance, they need to "tell a story". Right now it reads like a promo piece, a bunch of quotes saying how wonderful this person's work is.AKRadeckiSpeaketh 03:10, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
ProtoShare Query
I am in need of some assistance regarding an article recently declined ProtoShare. In my correspondence with a previous reviewer (Tnxman307) we had discussed the reliable sources and I was told that my most recent additions would work. Regarding the content of the article, I was following the format of current articles already posted in Wikipedia (Axure and OmniGraffle). The product reviews are third party users who have nothing to do with the developers of this product and even criticize some of the product. I have since removed some content and tried to ensure an informative yet neutral voice. It is difficult to post an article that one agrees is acceptable and another does not. Are my newest changes acceptable and how do I make sure it gets approved? Thank you in advance for your help! --Site9 (talk) 19:04, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. I have a couple of concerns. First, is the apparent conflict of interest here. You are essentially writing an article promoting your own company's product, even if you're trying to do it in a neutral tone. While we have a bit more leeway at AfC, there are editors around who feel this is still inappropriate. Personally, I feel this crosses the line, but I don't want my opinion to necessarily be seen as the rule. That being said, the core of the issue is notability of the product. Take a moment and read the material that the blue link I just typed says. This appears to be a relatively new product that you're trying to promote. I, quite frankly, don't see encyclopedic notability established yet. What I see for sources are three blogs and one online magazine. Only Simply Communicate, in my view, even comes close to the level mandated by our reliable sources policy.
- Having said all that, I do understand the frustration of dealing with multiple editors, who might have widely varying interpretations of our policies and guidelines. I will drop a note over at User:Tnxman307's talk page inviting him to review this, and I will be happy to defer to his judgment on the issue. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:19, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- First of all, thank you for inviting me to comment. Hopefully we can reach some agreement on the article. I think the best way to proceed is to look at the sources provided. After all, notability is simply the coverage of a subject in third-party sources. I think the best two sources are the Wikinomics interview and the Simply Communicate piece. They provide a solid basis since they are third-party and go in-depth about the subject.
- The other sources are less in-depth, but they do provide some coverage of the subject. While this may not amount to spectacular sourcing, I feel it's enough to support an article.
- Finally, it does appear the user has a conflict of interest. However, s/he does appear to be making a good-faith effort to contribute an article. I'd be willing to work with this user and monitor their contributions, although they seem be going about things the right way so far. Are there other concerns you feel need to be addressed? Best, TNXMan 20:52, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Nope, sounds like you covered them. I appreciate your willingness to work with the editor. Just a note you might want to pass on, though. Typically, if I see COI, I'll just warn the user, however there is a growing number of admins who, if they see a user name match a corporate name, will indef block on sight. Once this article hits the main space, User:Site9 should probably not be involved any longer. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 21:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
Kaori Tea - Slight irelevant confusion
Hi there. This is entirely unimportant, purely personal curiosity on my part, but I noticed you deleted Kaori Tea under A7 right after declining the speedy on the grounds a prior AfD had found its sources notable. I was just curious as to why. The sudden 180 confused me a bit! - Vianello (talk) 21:24, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Confusion on my part. I thought it had been created through the WP:AFC process, so I decided at that point to decline. However, I then double checked and realized, through checking the history, that it had been actually declined after the AfC review, and the version posted to the article space was unchanged from that which had been previously declined, therefore I reversed myself. Sorry for the confusion. I should have checked the history of the AfC submission first. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 21:29, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I meant to say AFC. Anyway, now I understand! Thanks for clearing that up. I was just a little perplexed. - Vianello (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- NP...I managed to perplex myself there, too! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 21:35, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, I meant to say AFC. Anyway, now I understand! Thanks for clearing that up. I was just a little perplexed. - Vianello (talk) 21:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
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Thank you for helping me. User:Yousaf465 (talk) 16:17, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice and I didn't moved it further.Discussion is taking place,and I 'm also contributing to it.User:Yousaf465 (talk)
Please see the following page, The Aviator. I have been observing some vandalism of a section of the article, but now it's advanced instead of through other means to a legal threat. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:29, 5 March 2009 (UTC).
- Dang, looks like I missed the action. Oh well, I don't think this person will be bothering you anymore, but I'll watchlist the article anyway. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:19, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Quick Question re: Block on Ahmad Batebi
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BLOCK ON Ahmad Batebi: Is the user banned indefinitely from editing his own page or is the block still for only 24 hours, which began last night as indicated in Ahmadbatebiuser talk page? --Autoplay91 (talk) 18:13, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I've only blocked him for 24 hours. A ban would come about only if he kept up the inappropriate behavior. The block did not include his own user page. Even after the block is lifted, though, it would be inappropriate for him to continue editing the article about him. Your connection to him? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:15, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- My connection to him? None! Never have met or spoken to the guy or anything else other than observing his inappropriate behavior here and elsewhere. This behavior, which is not limited to Wikipedia as I understand it, has raised a great deal of questions about this individual and his credibility. However, the reason I posed the question was because I wanted to understand blocking rules better in general, not just in his case. I am quite surprised with the amount of vandalism and inappropriate behavior on Wikipedia and was wondering generally how such actions are addressed. --Autoplay91 (talk) 18:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Vandalism that is noted and which needs to be address can be posted at WP:AIV. Incidents of misbehavior can be posted at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. As you're new here, let me caution you...your comments at Talk:Lily Mazahery are somewhat incendiary, and show a lack of neutrality on your part. You might want to consider modifying your approach when dealing with controversial subjects. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Point well taken. I was just struck by how cruel and absurd some of the statements were against her, particularly as I have followed her work for years and have great respect for what she has done. Regardless, I thank you for your advice and will certainly act more carefully and with greater neutrality even in cases where I feel there is great injustice. You are absolutely correct. --Autoplay91 (talk) 18:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- In the same token, others are also expected to show the same restraint. If you observe others making "cruel and absurd" statements, you are well within your rights to either post a complaint to the Incidents board, or even warn the user yourself, based on our civility code. Happy editing! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:53, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Point well taken. I was just struck by how cruel and absurd some of the statements were against her, particularly as I have followed her work for years and have great respect for what she has done. Regardless, I thank you for your advice and will certainly act more carefully and with greater neutrality even in cases where I feel there is great injustice. You are absolutely correct. --Autoplay91 (talk) 18:51, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Vandalism that is noted and which needs to be address can be posted at WP:AIV. Incidents of misbehavior can be posted at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents. As you're new here, let me caution you...your comments at Talk:Lily Mazahery are somewhat incendiary, and show a lack of neutrality on your part. You might want to consider modifying your approach when dealing with controversial subjects. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- My connection to him? None! Never have met or spoken to the guy or anything else other than observing his inappropriate behavior here and elsewhere. This behavior, which is not limited to Wikipedia as I understand it, has raised a great deal of questions about this individual and his credibility. However, the reason I posed the question was because I wanted to understand blocking rules better in general, not just in his case. I am quite surprised with the amount of vandalism and inappropriate behavior on Wikipedia and was wondering generally how such actions are addressed. --Autoplay91 (talk) 18:37, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I really am sorry to bother you again, but this discussion has just made me think of another question for you: Is there any way to bookmark the links such as the ones you have suggested? I would like to have a list of the hyperlinks to the pages that provide instructions regarding editing, commenting, responding, etc. but I have not figured out how that can be done. Any help that you would be kind enough to provide will be greatly appreciated. --Autoplay91 (talk) 19:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- No problem with the questions...they're always encouraged. You are free to make subpages under your user name. For instance, if you look at my user page, you'll see both a bookmarks page as well as a toolbox page, and some sandboxes for working on articles in. There's just too much for this old brain to remember, so I create links for myself. Some people don't bother with a bookmarks page, they just stick the links on their main user page, which is perfectly acceptable. So, for instance, if you wanted to add a link to the vandalism board, it would look like: [[WP:AIV]]. If you want to make a subpage, you'd type in the search box User:Autoplay91/pagename (substituting the name you want to call the page, of course). When the screen comes up that the page doesn't exist, it'll also have a line that you can click that invites you to create the page. Hope that helps. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 19:08, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- I really am sorry to bother you again, but this discussion has just made me think of another question for you: Is there any way to bookmark the links such as the ones you have suggested? I would like to have a list of the hyperlinks to the pages that provide instructions regarding editing, commenting, responding, etc. but I have not figured out how that can be done. Any help that you would be kind enough to provide will be greatly appreciated. --Autoplay91 (talk) 19:00, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Regarding speedy deletion of the Vermeth album Your Ruin...
Hi, as a contributor to the WikiProject Black Metal, I am currently trying to improve the Les Légions Noires page. One thing on my "to do" list is to add pages for the albums that were released through official recording compagnies. This is the case for the two Vermeth albums released by French label Drakkar Productions The problem is that I dont' feel it makes sense to create a dedicated page for Vermeth, as it is simply one of the numerous side projects by Black Legions members. However, the releases have notability as part of the Black Legions' collective oeuvre. Any idea how to proceed without getting the articles speedy-deleted for lack of an artist page, as just happened a few minutes ago? (Irina666 (talk) 20:31, 6 March 2009 (UTC))
- See WP:NALBUMS - an album isn't notable unless it's artist is notable and it has been covered by reliable independent sources. I saw none of that for this one. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:41, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Phantom Automation
Hi Akradecki-
I just tried to add a new article on Phantom Automation. I accidentally saved it as a real page instead of to the sandbox, and noticed it was marked for deletion. I added the 'hangon' tag, and explained that I was updating it. I finished updating it and noticed it had been deleted anyway.
My intent was to add it as a link to the GUI Test Tools article. Were you able to see my final changes before deleting it? Was there a problem with the final changes? It is about a commercial product, but I tried to make it so that it was not an 'advertisement'. I saw some other pages that the GUI Test Tools article links to, and I didnt see anything in my page that was not in those other pages.
Sorry, but I am new to this whole thing. Any thoughts or suggestions are appreciated!
Also, the person who helped me told me to ask you to 'WP:USERFY' it for me...
Thanks!
Aeroslacker (talk) 20:29, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- What I saw failed wp:corp. I'll userfy it and notify you on your talk page AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:32, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
Me2everyone
Why doesn't an authoritative reference combined with several hundred Google hits count as sufficient notoriety?--Nowa (talk) 21:16, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- Google hits don't count for anything. You might want to make yourself familiar with WP:WEB. The standard is "The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself." AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
- AKRadecki, thanks for the guidance. WP:WEB states The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. Does my original reference from About.com, Me2Everyone: Viral Marketing of Virtually Nothing Monday February 9, 2009, qualify as at least one non-trivial independent published work?--Nowa (talk) 10:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- No, it doesn't. Our policy on verifiability, in discussing self-published sources, states that "For that reason, self-published books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, forum postings, and similar sources are largely not acceptable." A blog is not at the same level as a major news or trade publication. Remember, we're not creating a forum or online guide here...this is an encyclopedia, and consequently our standards are - and should be - relatively high. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:37, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- AKRadecki, thanks for the guidance. WP:WEB states The content itself has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the site itself. Does my original reference from About.com, Me2Everyone: Viral Marketing of Virtually Nothing Monday February 9, 2009, qualify as at least one non-trivial independent published work?--Nowa (talk) 10:19, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
I understand and agree with your point about self published blogs. About.com, however, is an Internet encyclopedia project. It is owned by the New York Times and their ethics policy is that of a news publication. The mere fact that users may post comments to articles is true of most all on-line news publications and should not disqualify them as an independent and reliable source. I would also add that they are already cited quite frequently in other Wikipedia articles. See cat and dog.--Nowa (talk) 17:29, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- This has nothing to do with the fact that users can post comments, it has everything to do with the fact that it is a self-described blog. Even at big news organizations, blogs are treated differently. They are typically written in first person and share opinions of the blogger (as this one clearly does) and are thus commentary, rather than being objective and dispassionate news articles. Additionally, typically they don't go through the same editorial review process as an actual article would. While blogs by reputable journalists can sometimes be used as supporting references, this is your sole ref, so no, since it's a commentary piece, it doesn't meet the standard. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:49, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll wait then until a few more traditional news articles show up.--Nowa (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree with you about both the use of blogs at news sources. They are not quite the same as news articles, but they represent the opinion of --usually--an important editor there. Depending on that person's reputation, they can be every bit as reliable as if he were to publish them in a book. For what shows up at ask.com, the same criterion would hold, if the people can be shown to be notable. DGG (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- By and large (and in this particular case) blogs are commentary not news, and thus I don't see them as meeting the standard, especially when such a commentary is the article's sole source. However, with more and more major news people blogging, it probably would be a good idea to start a discussion (maybe at WP:RS?) to have a more formal guideline as to when blogs are acceptable. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- I disagree with you about both the use of blogs at news sources. They are not quite the same as news articles, but they represent the opinion of --usually--an important editor there. Depending on that person's reputation, they can be every bit as reliable as if he were to publish them in a book. For what shows up at ask.com, the same criterion would hold, if the people can be shown to be notable. DGG (talk) 23:33, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll wait then until a few more traditional news articles show up.--Nowa (talk) 18:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
Survivors
Any chance of having a look at User:Davegnz actions on A-20 Havoc survivors he does not appear to be behaving as required by his RFC, appears to be returned to own the survivors articles despite all the discussion and RFC we had previously. Also appears to have a pair of socks User:Tallmantz and User:209.212.28.50. I am bit to close to the latest changes so any help or advice appreciated. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 22:01, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the heads-up. I dropped a note on his talk page, and will keep watching. Looks like the others are definitely socks. I don't like what I see with this...trying to create a consensus with ghosts. Will definitely keep an eye on things. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 02:13, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
Continued threats against editors
Hello. I wanted to direct your attention to this post: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Vistaboy99 Any suggestions regarding how this on-going problem should be addressed? User (Shayan7) has received a number of warning from admins regarding his threats and attempts to bully other editors. Yet he seems unphased by it all. --Joaj (talk) 03:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- In this case, Shayan7 has a point...Vistaboy99's comments weren't very polite. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 05:18, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Patrick Henry Jones
thx
Problems continue on Ahmad Batebi
Since Ahmad Batebi himself has been blocked <script type="text/javascript"src="http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Henrik/js/automod.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript&dontcountme=s"></script>from editing this page, user Shayan7 who appears to be the English translator of Ahmad Batebi, continues to do exactly what Batebi was warned against doing. Shayan7 deletes verified information with unsourced and original source info that has recently been posted on Batebi's website as a reaction to Wikipedia's administrative interventions. As such, only the username of the editor has changed from Ahmadbatebi to Shayan7! The actions are precisely the same. They are inappropriate, disruptive, and lack a neutral point of view or properly sourced information.--Joaj (talk) 15:23, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't have time, at the moment, to dig through the diffs, but would you mind providing some that demonstrate your assertions that "the actions are precisely the same"? That will help in trying to moderate this mess. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:38, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hi! Since you seem to have become my mentor here (which I really appreciate, by the way), I attempted to provide some points to counter those made by Shayan on Lily Mazahery's Talk page. I would be so grateful if you could let me know how I did and how I can make the changes that obviously need to be made. Thanks so much. --Autoplay91 (talk) 15:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think you handled it quite well. You made your point through independent sources, which is the most convincing way to make a point in the WP environment. And, you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that this is the reason for using independent sources. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- I stumbled upon this situation, read through the histories and fighting back and worth. I just wanted to say that I think you handled this situation beautifully. OlYellerTalktome 05:31, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- I think you handled it quite well. You made your point through independent sources, which is the most convincing way to make a point in the WP environment. And, you hit the nail on the head when you mentioned that this is the reason for using independent sources. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hi! Since you seem to have become my mentor here (which I really appreciate, by the way), I attempted to provide some points to counter those made by Shayan on Lily Mazahery's Talk page. I would be so grateful if you could let me know how I did and how I can make the changes that obviously need to be made. Thanks so much. --Autoplay91 (talk) 15:24, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
AFD
I'm not sure you know this, so I'm sending you a quick note about it. I've come across to AFDs you closed and you forgot to put the header inside the closure tags in both cases. I know that at least one of the TFD or CFD processes do it differently, which might be causing the confusion. Maybe something to remember for your next closure. - Mgm|(talk) 09:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Dang, you're right. Thanks for the heads up! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
A-20 article
I was just wondering if anyone at wikipedia has a clue regarding how screw'd-up tables make an article look. - nothing is in ling, information is being lost and the article does not look professional or well written. Wikipedia table do not work - when I first created this series 2 years ago, I tried tables but you could not get then to look right - you end up with things that look like
- A-20-5D
- O
- 44-12
- 345
and this is the first column
As far as the proposing a change - this is a joke - I often proposed a change (held lengthy discussions) and people like BillCJ just ignored everyone elses comments and just did it his wall and Melbourne one is a joke as a administrator - He does not have a clue oten ageees with my point then ignores his own common sense and just reverts back to something that does not work. Davegnz (talk) 17:34, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- With all due respect, I disagree. I've tried viewing the tables with several different browsers on different sized screens (from my narrow laptop to my widescreen touchsmart) and I've encountered no problems. Further, for me personally, the tables help organize the data for better viewing. Lastly, whenever you propose a change, you have to keep in mind that your proposal may be turned down by the group. I've had plenty of mine turned down. Don't assume that proposing something gives you the right to automatically implement it. Lastly, I'm really disappointed that you never really addressed the issues in the RfC, and your disrespectful comments about the editors which you've made above indicates that there's been little change in your outlook. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:06, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
- Additionally, since you mentioned on Milborne's talk page but not here the 17" monitor issue, I just went and double checked how it looks on the 17" monitor I'm using at the moment (viewing with Google Chrome as the browser), and it looks just fine. Don't have the problems you're describing. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Soundplant software article
I'm puzzled by the reason given for your rejection of this article, "No additional sources that meet WP:RS added since last submission." In fact 2 new sources had been added, both articles from highly respected industry publications...? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.204.68 (talk) 01:33, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Here is the dif of the changes made since the last time the article was declined. The only additional source I see is the addition of the Soundplant home page, which isn't a valid independent source. You made changes to the entries for two already-existing sources, neither of which meet our standards. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 01:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please look again at the dif page, perhaps you missed it but I had added an entirely new source ("Sound On Sound" magazine article) and clarified a second source by adding its off-internet hard copy publication details ("Electronic Musician" magazine article). I totally agree that the Soundplant home page is not a valid 3rd party source (a link to which had been there since the first draft of the article by the way and was not recently added), but I see no reason for the 2 magazine articles to not be valid sources. I was going to add a reference to yet another magazine article, but first can you please elaborate on how you think the currently referenced magazine articles do not meet Wikipedia standards? What would be more relevant than the 3rd party articles/reviews on the subject such as the ones cited? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.204.68 (talk) 02:14, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'd appreciate a reply to the above which was posted over a week ago. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.204.68 (talk) 21:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, your note got lost in the shuffle. Unfortunately, I still don't see it meeting encyclopedic notability standards. However, if you want to resubmit, I'll refrain from rejecting it and let another of the project folks weigh in on it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ok thanks, I'll try another edit and resubmission when I get a chance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.250.204.68 (talk) 00:24, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, your note got lost in the shuffle. Unfortunately, I still don't see it meeting encyclopedic notability standards. However, if you want to resubmit, I'll refrain from rejecting it and let another of the project folks weigh in on it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
I am curious to know why you deleted X-Block? We have plenty of references (I can add some more all from leading engineer magazines). Yes, it is a product but it is all about running pneumatic cylinders in a different way and saving 60-70% energy. The cylinder manufacturers are trying to kill us as they do not like disruptive new technology because it is a revolutionary new way (see Wikipedia- FESTO). —Preceding unsigned comment added by X-PNEUMATIC1 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- It was deleted as a copyvio because it was cut and pasted from a website, which is not acceptable. Secondly, although this is not the reason it was actually deleted, it could just as well have been deleted for being an advertisement. Wikipedia is not a place to promote your company's products. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:13, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Conflicting guidance from wikipedia gatekeepers
Hi there, I am getting conflicting information about software-related pages. You recently removed my OTPauth page, which was about a specific technology related to One-Time Passwords and is linked off of the One-Time Passwords page under the heading "specific technologies." It seems you would prefer I just have the reference to the technology be an external link to the project homepage. I'm fine with that, but was told not to do that on a related page. On another page, which was a "List of xxxxx software" type of page, I had an external link to a specific discrete event simulation engine. It was removed, because I did not have an internal page for the technology, which I have now created.
Which way do you want it? And thanks again for making me redo work I've already done. Can you, if nothing else, send me a copy of the page which you deleted (OTPauth)? You should be more judicious with your "speedy deletes" as I didn't have appropriate time to add the hangon tag. —Preceding unsigned comment added by James.barkley (talk • contribs) 18:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- First, you might want to refer to our conflict of interest guidelines...it is pretty much inappropriate for your to write about a product that you developed. Second, the article had no outside neutral 3rd sources to verify its notablity (for more information, please see WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:WEB. Third, the article was cut-and-pasted from this website, which clearly is copyrighted by Google (see statement at bottom of that page), so using that text here is a copyright violation. Three strikes...that was actually a fairly judicious use of speedy. (Oh, and please sign your messages with four tildas.) AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:20, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
James.barkley (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2009 (UTC) Wow, you're a piece of work ;). Okay, first, The Google code copyright applies to their site, not the content. This is well documented at http://code.google.com/tos.html under the "Your Rights" section which states: "Google claims no ownership or control over any Content submitted, posted, or displayed by you on or through Google services." Secondly, the source code and wiki content are clearly licensed under the GNU General Public License v2, which means that reproduced or derivative works can be created by anyone as long as changes are made available. You can read more about this at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License or at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-2.0.html The wiki you reference http://code.google.com/p/otpauth/wiki/usage_scenarios clearly indicates this license in the right-hand sidebar. Do you think every photo you post to flickr is copyrighted by Yahoo, too?
Furthermore, some of that content was cut-and-paste from the homepage wiki, but not all of it. There were some custom statements in there that I would like to retain in my records. Your terms of service clearly state that I can have an article emailed to me if it is deleted, and you have yet to fulfill this request.
I can add the February edition of Linux Pro Magazine as a reference, since they ran a cover-story article which referenced the code library and discussed the application of such technology in-depth. If the article is restored, I would be happy to put this reference (and you can verify it, BTW, by buying a copy online or in the stores).
Finally, this is not a "product" and I was not the sole contributor. I understand the conflict of interest if I work for Pepsi and am marketing it, but I tried to be as objective as possible in just describing the code library according to your rules of objective language.
Now, I don't want this next bit to come out as a criticism of you personally, it is a flaw in the system: You thought you knew something ("Google copyrighted this") and you were very incorrect about it and as a result I am now losing valuable time trying to clean up the mess. As a steward of data you are put in a position of trust and control, and I feel you did not uphold that trust. How do I make a complaint against a data steward? If my appointed government official makes a decision I don't like, I can complain. I thought Wikipedia was similar, in that it wasn't just a handful of trusted officials make all of the content decisions, but rather a democratization of information.
Not sure what you meant by the four tildas thing - I am look into it now. James.barkley (talk) 21:25, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
- With all due respect, the code may well be in GFDL, but the page that the text about the code clearly says "Copyright 2009 Google" at the bottom, and has no other statement, including no GFDL statement. For example, if you look at the bottom of any Wikipedia page, there is a GFDL statement about the text. There was no statement at the bottom of the Google page, only a copyright statement. Further, if you read through the Google TOS that you referred to, you'll find this statement in regards to the content of the page: "Except as expressly authorized by Google or other proper third party rights holders, you agree not to modify, rent, lease, loan, sell, distribute or create derivative works based on Content, Google services or Software, in whole or in part except as specifically authorized in a separate written agreement." That's not a GFDL statement, and in fact, there is no GFDL statement anywhere in the TOS. Note that this statement applies expressly to the "content", even if the content comes from a 3rd party. Further, right after the statement that you quoted to me, Google states "Google reserves the right to syndicate Content submitted, posted or displayed by you on or through Google services and use that Content in connection with any service offered by Google." If Google is reserving that right, then the content is not free under GFDL. Bottom line: the page says it's copyrighted, the TOS says it's copyrighted and that rights are reserved, and there's no GFDL statement, therefore in the absence of express license under GFDL, copyright by Google has to be assumed. As to your Flikr analogy, it's actually a good one: images from Flikr can't be used here unless they carry an explicit GFDL statement. Oh, and by the way, Wikipedia is not a democracy. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
James.barkley (talk) 11:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC) I am convinced you are flat out wrong about the content licensing at Google Code, but since I think it will be pointless to continue to argue with you about it, I've explicitly licensed the content as Creative Commons 3.0 BY. You can clearly see this on the sidebar at http://code.google.com/p/otpauth/. As for the Flikr analogy: it may be Wikipedia policy not to use a flickr image here unless it is explicitly licensed, but that is because the user retains rights, not Yahoo!. This is an important distinction from the way you've explained your understanding.
Please email me the content of the deleted page for my records or post it on my talk page or something.
If not a democracy, can you offer a different analogy? I did find http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_democracy interesting, so I give you that. However, in the next section below it under "Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy" the page states: "Similarly, do not follow an overly strict interpretation of the letter of policy to violate the principles of the policy (see Wikipedia's guideline on gaming the system). If the rules prevent you from improving the encyclopedia, ignore them. Disagreements are resolved through consensus-based discussion, rather than through tightly sticking to rules and procedures." James.barkley (talk) 11:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Copyright is one of the areas that's specifically exempted from "Ignore All Rules". Copyright issues are very conservatively approached. You and I might not agree with it, but that's how things work around here. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:25, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
James.barkley (talk) 19:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
Sure, fine, but at this point, I have explicitly licensed the content under creative commons, and can show an outside 3rd party external source (Linux Pro Magazine) as validation. Two of your "three strikes" against the page are now gone. Mind if I put the page back ?
Another thought: Your conflict of interest policy sounds like a good idea, but then the way you described it above, "it is pretty much inappropriate for your to write about a product that you developed.", raises an interesting question. Would Thomas Edison have been prevented for contributed to the article on "lightbulbs" ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by James.barkley (talk • contribs) 00:48, 20 March 2009 (UTC) James.barkley (talk) 19:02, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, he would have been prevented from doing so. Besides the COI issue, there's also the original research issue. Even the most brilliant research scientists can't write about their breakthroughs here. I have no problem with an article on the subject being written, as long as it has demonstrated encyclopedic notability (meaning mulitple non-trivial media sources that cover the subject in a significant way). Remember, we are not a product guide covering every software-related item in existence. We cover only what others (meaning major media sources) take note of in a way that's more than a passing mention. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:39, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
Xmanager, Xshell, PC X Server
Please explain in further detail why these 3 entries were deleted. Specific details as to why you thought it would be best to delete them and what we need to change so they are not deleted in the future. Please do not state them as merely not following "notability" rules because the last entries met the notability guideline as much as any proprietary product.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jk616 (talk • contribs)
- I'll have to look into the other two later, but Xmanager was originally deleted via AfD, so recreation really isn't appropriate without going through WP:DRV. It has been recreated and deleted multiple times, and the time before mine because it was a blatant copyvio. Notability does seem to be an issue. Can you please tell me, with specifics, how it meets the notability guidelines? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 18:47, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
- I just checked the other two. Xshell also doesn't even come close to meeting our notability guidelines. Other than a Cnet download page (which had no neutral 3rd party info on it), there was nothing to justify an encyclopedia article. Wikipedia is not a product guide. Again, you said that they meet the notability guideline. How? Where's the significant coverage in non-trivial neutral 3rd party sources? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:25, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
CERTPOINT Systems
Could you please explain how to avoid the following message when trying to create this page? Do I need more references? More internal links? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks
- Yes, go read WP:CORP. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:17, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
International Association of Lighting Designers (IALD) Deletion
Noticed that you deleted the wiki for the International Association of Lighting Designers in September.
This group is an international professional organization for architectural lighting designers and incorporated at a 501(c)6 as an association, akin to the American Medical Association for doctors and the American Library Association for library professionals, meeting the requirements for notability for non-commercial companies as defined by wikipedia.
Layingblames (talk) 17:16, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Go read WP:CORP again. The article didn't meet it. See the part where it says "Information about the organization and its activities can be verified by third-party, independent, reliable sources. (In other words, they must satisfy the primary criterion for all organizations as described above.)"? Gotta have that. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:21, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- So, is it a matter of proving the existance of this organization as provided by a reputable body? incorporation papers?
- U.S. Department of Energy and International Association of Lighting Designers Partner to Improve Energy Efficiency in Lighting Systems
IALD is an internationally recognized organization comprising independent and esteemed professionals dedicated to the very highest standards in lighting design. DOE's collaboration with IALD further strengthens its commitment to developing innovative, energy-efficient lighting solutions.
- Associations & Organizations, National Lighting Bureau
International Association of Lighting Designers (IALD) Founded in 1969 and based in Chicago, Illinois, USA, IALD is an internationally recognized organization dedicated solely to he concerns of independent, professional lighting designers. The IALD strives to set the global standard for lighting design excellence by promoting the advancement and recognition of professional lighting designers. Value Lighting designers are a tremendous resource of innovative, practical and economically viable lighting solutions. They understand the role of lighting in architectural and interior design and utilize their extensive experience and knowledge of lighting equipment and systems to enhance and strengthen design.
- What else?Layingblames (talk) 19:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Not quite. Our policy states:
AKRadeckiSpeaketh 19:58, 11 March 2009 (UTC)Articles should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.[4] Reliable sources are necessary both to substantiate material within articles and to give credit to authors and publishers in order to avoid plagiarism and copyright violations. Sources should directly support the information as it is presented in an article and should be appropriate to the claims made: exceptional claims require high-quality sources. In general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks; magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing houses; and mainstream newspapers. As a rule of thumb, the greater the degree of scrutiny involved in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the evidence and arguments of a particular work, the more reliable it is.
- Associations & Organizations, National Lighting Bureau
- So, the web site for the US Dept. of Energy isn't good enough? Quick Google search shows 11,400 references[1], including several from journals, trade press, and industry sites. I honestly have no idea what to provide to meet - could you please provide one solid example of a web site or source that would count? Layingblames (talk) 20:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Did you read what I quoted above? Once again, it says, "In general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks; magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing houses; and mainstream newspapers." It's your responsibility to ensure that this is in the article. Secondly, I get the strong impression that you're connected to this organization. Am I mistaken? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- So, the web site for the US Dept. of Energy isn't good enough? Quick Google search shows 11,400 references[1], including several from journals, trade press, and industry sites. I honestly have no idea what to provide to meet - could you please provide one solid example of a web site or source that would count? Layingblames (talk) 20:08, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm a member of the association, and it was brought to my attention that this page was deleted by someone who isn't as familiar with wikipedia procedure. I'm going to move this discussion to the WP:DRV Layingblames (talk) 20:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- You are most welcome to take it to DRV, but be aware of our conflict of interest guidelines, which preclude people from using Wikipedia to promote their organization or products. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:01, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. I'm a member of the association, and it was brought to my attention that this page was deleted by someone who isn't as familiar with wikipedia procedure. I'm going to move this discussion to the WP:DRV Layingblames (talk) 20:26, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion
FYI, I have restored Ken Binns; regardless of what I might think about the article personally, it was the subject of a recent deletion discussion, which did not reach a consensus to delete, so it should not be speedied. That is one reason why we need to check the page history before deleting. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 17:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
- It would have been nice if someone had actually tagged the article's talk page with {{oldafd}}! Thanks for the heads up on this one. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:46, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Please investigate this user. I've been suspecting that he's using sock accounts like User:Minala and others. Use checkuser for this one. Soapiamarz (talk) 17:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Good work
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The Articles for Creation Barnstar | |
For all your hard work at AfC, I hereby present you with this shiny award. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:47, 11 March 2009 (UTC) |
Awesome...Thanks! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:50, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Deletion of Jigsaw (wrestler)
The article was deleted in June 2007 for being about a "minor league" wrestler. Since that time, he has gone on to compete regularly for Ring of Honor, the third largest promotion in the United States and has competed on several events aired on pay-per-view. The only other problem with the article by the original nominator was the fact that Online World of Wrestling.com, the source for the article, is a website that wrestlers can (but not necessarily do) pay to have a profile add, which all they do is record the wrestlers match history and are deleted if the website finds out the wrestler is giving them false information. The original nominator is the only person to have a problem with the website, and damn near every single article on Wikipedia about a professional wrestler uses OWW.com as a reference. In addition to OWW.com he has profiles at CHIKARAfans.com, Ring of Honor.wikia.com, and most promotions websites feature event history (as well as producing the events on DVD) and title histories, all of which can be used to source the article in case someone has a problem with "At [event] on [date], Jigsaw defeated [wrestler] to win [championship]". Nenog (talk) 01:19, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- With as many times as this article has been deleted, I'd strongly suggest taking it to WP:DRV. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 02:40, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Concerning BakerPlatt
Hello, I see you deleted one version of the article (me deleting 2 other versions). the article has been recreated, and I'm loath to delete it a 3rd time. But I could use another pair of eyes here. See also pertaining messages on my talk-page. What do you think? COI, SPA, paid writing? Cheers and Thanks in andvance. Lectonar (talk) 13:49, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Guys. I'm an increasingly frustrated and discouraged newbie to Wikipedia. I'm loathing the accusations and failing to see why the page is repeatedly being deleted. It is impartial, objective, notable and entirely in keeping with the entries for other offshore law firms. Please would one of you give me an indication as to where I'm going wrong, without accusing me of 'paid writing'! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasonmackenzie (talk • contribs) 14:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Jason, first, what is your connection with the firm? Second, it would be very helpful if you'd put the refs into inline citation format (see WP:CITE). At first look, this article looks non-notable as we define notability, but when you start following the web links, a case for notability can be made. The problem is that you haven't made the case well, because you haven't used the standard reference format. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:13, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Why?
Why did you delete the slipknot single snuff? I edited that last night because the infobox was WHACKED! Please start it again... :'( —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.200.16 (talk) 19:27, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- Because it failed to meet WP:MUSIC. Consider including the info in the main article. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 19:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
Need your guidance regarding photo for Lily Mazahery's page
Hi again. I am trying to figure out the licensing and photo policy here and I couldn't be more confused! So once again, I am hoping that you can direct me towards the right path. I have uploaded 2 different images for Lily Mazahery. One was a photo that had been removed because of copyright related issues that I really don't understand since the subject is over my head. However, because the same picture had been used in other places, I contacted the media source from which the snapshot was taken, and I sent an email to Lily Mazahery's office as well, asking them if it was OK to use the image. Both said that there were no problems with using it. Mazahery_Lily.jpg But just to be safe and to make sure that I am not doing anything inappropriate, I uploaded another image of her, LilyMazahery2007.jpg which is a photo that my father had taken of her when he had gone to Washington DC and had met her. That photo has been used extensively in the past couple of years and neither Ms. Mazahery nor my father have any problems with it being used here or elsewhere. Also, ironically enough, my dad took that photo using my camera that he had borrowed for the trip! So I need to know which photo is more appropriate to use under Wikipedia rules. The photo that was used initially in her profile is a more appropriate depiction of Lily Mazahery in the context of her work and activism profile, which is on Wikipedia. But if that is not acceptable under copyright guidelines, which again, I really can not make sense of (sorry!), I would like to know if it would be OK for me to use the other image on her profile. Thanks again for all of your mentorship and help. --Autoplay91 (talk) 21:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- The photo taken by your father with your camera is much easier for the copyright issues. For the other one, if you want to use it, follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission, and email them the replies that you have. Hope that helps. Photo copyright really is a convoluted problem, which is why I only upload images that I shoot. If Lily is going to be in L.A. any time soon, especially in San Fernando Valley, and would agree to be photographed, I'd possibly be able to shoot some images myself. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:54, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't know if you have seen this back and forth discussion or not, but just in case, here's the link to the thread on the admin's talk page about this issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:J_Milburn#Lily_Mazahery_image As confusing as Wikipedia is, I must admit that I am having a lot of fun learning. And I really appreciate having the guidance of experienced editors such as yourself. --Autoplay91 (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Funny time in signature
User talk:CEAMOfficial. What happened? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:45, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, how bizzare...never noticed that before! That message is a template, and I don't think it's auto-updating the time. Will have to explore that more. Thanks for pointing that out! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 04:12, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
Botchamania
Just wondering why the Botchamania page was deleted and is now restricted for someone to create it. There are bits that say due to it being about a website that is not worthy of inclusion. What exactly would make it a website worthy of inclusion? Maffew, the guy who makes them has 10,000 subscribers, and his channel has been viewed half a million times, which I would consider to be pretty high by YouTube standards. Plus his account has been shutdown, which could be discussed in the article and his numerous run-ins with ROH and DirectVideo.
In terms of content, a breakdown of the botches included with links where necessary to other pages on Wikipedia. Consider it, and let me know Blindwombatuk (talk) 08:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
- I wasn't the last person to last delete it...it's been deleted 4 times (I was actually the 3rd), and every time it was the same thing: it failed our standards miserably. Please go read the following guidelines and policies: WP:WEB, WP:V, WP:N, and WP:RS. It met none of these. There was no indication of encyclopedic notability and there were no independent reputable 3rd party sources providing significant coverage of the subject. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:11, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
DYK for Galen T. Porter
Gatoclass (talk) 14:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi. I noticed that you just deleted this as G10, and I was wondering if you saw if referenced revision. Thanks, –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah, nevermind, I see you've restored it. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 00:16, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes, and I've already restored it. I couldn't believe that something so short and unref'ed would be kept at AfD, but so be it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:17, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
Xavier Henry
Why did you erase the Xavier Henry page? I was working on that article, and his notability is not disputed?Racingstripes (talk) 00:20, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Because the article failed WP:ATHLETE. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:22, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- However, Henry easily passes the general notability criteria. Zagalejo^^^ 08:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Demonstrated by what refs? To have a high school athlete listed, you need some solid sources. The article didn't have them. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I have no idea what the article originally looked like, but I think the current version has enough solid refs (ESPN, Sports Illustrated, New York Times, etc). If you disagree, you can take it to AFD. Zagalejo^^^ 17:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Now that's how to make an article deletion-proof! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:44, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Well, I have no idea what the article originally looked like, but I think the current version has enough solid refs (ESPN, Sports Illustrated, New York Times, etc). If you disagree, you can take it to AFD. Zagalejo^^^ 17:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- Demonstrated by what refs? To have a high school athlete listed, you need some solid sources. The article didn't have them. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:21, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
- However, Henry easily passes the general notability criteria. Zagalejo^^^ 08:07, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
AFC Barnstar
The Articles for Creation Barnstar | ||
I've seen you around the AFC pages, thanks for your hard work helping the newbies with their article creation! FingersOnRoids♫ 02:35, 22 March 2009 (UTC) |
- Oops...didn't see that you already had one. Oh well, nice job anyways :]. FingersOnRoids♫ 03:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure he doesn't mind receiving another :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's really encouraging, thanks!! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:31, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sure he doesn't mind receiving another :) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:12, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
Oops
I'm sorry about this edit. I was reverting vandalism on the Recent Changes page, saw a few hundred characters deleted, and reverted it without looking closely at what I was bringing back. I'll look more carefully in the future. --Micromaster (talk) (contributions) 03:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Beth Kobliner
Hi Akradecki-
trying to get the following submission which you rejected a second reveiew. It has been 1 week. Any ideas why?
Article is about Beth Kobliner. thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jebaum (talk • contribs) 20:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, I don't see that one in the queue anywhere. Give me the direct link and I'll see what's up with it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ok, found it. It has not been resubmitted, which is why it isn't in the queue, and as far as I can tell, none of the issues that got it rejected have been addressed. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
Jalandhar Copyvio
While looking over AfDs, I ran into an article about a school and found that the info in the article was all a copyvio. While googling the text, I found that it was no only on other websites verbatim, it was in another wiki article (Jalandhar). Rather than mark the whole article for speedy deletion because of one section, I started to go through and remove copyvio info found in the article. The more I look, the more I find. Do you have any suggestions as to what I should do? I was thinking that I could ask the Wikipedia:WikiProject India for help but I'm not sure if that's a fast enough solution. I don't really want to rewrite the whole article from scratch either. What do you think? I'll be watching here for your response. OlYellerTalktome 22:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
- What typically is done in a case like this is to chop it down to a stub. Anything that's not clearly ref'ed and in Wikipedia style should go. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
LT cats
Please see my reply to Patton123 at User talk:Patton123#Category:London Underground stubs and Category:London Overground stubs.
- And just in case you didn't see, see Iridescent reply at my talk page. Simply south (talk) 00:14, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I saw it; with respect to Iridescent, my feelings are that it would be better to let the servers catch up before tagging. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:15, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Mondo Holocausto!
Hello, Mondo Holocausto! has been created for a third time. I have tagged the article, and I was hoping, since you deleted the second appearance of the article, that you could put an end to the situation. Regards, Jd027 (talk) 00:07, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, all - certain you're busy, but based on the discussion I was curious as to why it's not enough context to identify articles subject? I have seen unknown films with no poster art and one line of info on here. Please advise when you're able. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirk daring77 (talk • contribs)
- This one had multiple problems: it's written like a promo piece, it's about a film that doesn't exist yet, and it has absolutely no references that attest to notability. Wait. When the film comes out and garners media reports, write about it then. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:33, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I received your input, thank you - please remove our talk thread as it's duly noted and I do not want this showing up on google when the title is inserted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirk daring77 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Um, no. I prefer to keep the conversations intact on this page. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 01:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I received your input, thank you - please remove our talk thread as it's duly noted and I do not want this showing up on google when the title is inserted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirk daring77 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- This one had multiple problems: it's written like a promo piece, it's about a film that doesn't exist yet, and it has absolutely no references that attest to notability. Wait. When the film comes out and garners media reports, write about it then. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:33, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hello, all - certain you're busy, but based on the discussion I was curious as to why it's not enough context to identify articles subject? I have seen unknown films with no poster art and one line of info on here. Please advise when you're able. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirk daring77 (talk • contribs)
- "I'll be back! ;)" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dirk daring77 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
AFC
Akradecki, just to let you know, I accepted the AFC nom for Soundplant, per your request for a fresh perspective. You can find my rationale here. Also, if you wouldn't mind, could you please put some space between your comments and the text in the afc articles? It would make viewing the articles and the discussion easier. Regards, FingersOnRoids♫ 01:29, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Looks good, I think there's sufficient refs to keep it from being deleted at AfD if someone ever decided to go that route. Thanks for all your hard work! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 05:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I find that typing ---- produces a nice horizontal line between comments and article. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:10, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Why delete entry for Neorouter
I'm looking for ways to set up a VPN network on my home computer and I was reading entries on Hamachi, VPN and then it mentioned Neorouter. I click on the entry for Neorouter and it shows that it was deleted today due to lack of notability. To be honest, I have no idea if it's notable or not - I'm just trying to figure a secure way of accessing my computer when I'm travelling. But if I go onto Google and type Neorouter, the second link sends me back to the deleted Wikipedia entry. And if I search Wikipedia for more details on VPN it mentions Neorouter frequently - and it keeps sending me back to the deleted page. And I have no idea if the first entry in Google is the Neorouter that the Hamachi Wikipedia references or not.
I've never posted anything at Wikipedia, and I know very little about how things are done on here in terms of ettiquette and if I'm violating any rules or anything by posting this - but I do know that I would like to read more about Neorouter, and my primary source for information (Wikipedia) deleted the information that I'm looking for hours ago. I would request that you bring it back please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.125.55 (talk) 03:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but that entry was removed through our deletion process and can't be brought back. The article provided little of substance, no more than what you'd get by going to the company's website. Sorry. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 04:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for the explaination. I don't agree with the decision - there were some notes on security issues that I found from the Google cache version of the page and even if it is basically an ad, as users use it, they will update the page with more details. The real questions that had about the product - how secure is it, how legit is it (it's carving a hole in my firewall accessible by a 3rd party), are not likely to be covered by the vendor. But thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I appreciate it, and the hard work that you and all the volunteers that keep Wikipedia working put in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.55.54.37 (talk) 18:20, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Deletion / Advice requested
Hi Akradecki, I am new at Wikipedia and am trying to complete the list of backup and online backup software by adding NovaBACKUP and some other tools. The addition seems not to be accepted if there is no reference to another article on the software. So I wrote an article on NovaBACKUP, which you deleted as blatant advertising. I understand that, but I don't know how to make my article work. I looked at an article about Yosemite backup and I do not see the differnece between that article and mine. I would be grateful for your advice. If this question is too low-level for experienced users, please answer on my talk page instead of here. Thank you! TatjanaNovaStor (talk) 08:42, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Replied on your talk page. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Deletion of Totimoshi
Hi Akradecki! Why did you delete the article Totimoshi on the basis that it was promotional? I didn't see anything promotional about it, and have the suspicion that it would even pass an AfD, as the band has multiple albums and is sold on Amazon (Google search). The article also had no text, therefore I could not see how it was promotional and denied the speedy. I was also adding some very basic text when the article was deleted. Please clarify the issue. Thanks, Ynhockey (Talk) 22:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Articles with little or no text but that have links to external websites are considered spam. It was on that basis that the article was deleted. Beyond that, the article could well have been deleted under A7, non-notable band. All that supported the article was a myspace link and the band's website link. Nothing there came even close to meeting the requirements of WP:MUSIC. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:41, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- A7 is not a way to cheat AfD, and notability guidelines are irrelevant for speedy deletion anyway. Moreover, the article did not consist of, as you say, only links to external websites, but actually listed all of the band's members and albums. In cases like this, the links can simply be removed. I will restore the article with a basic lede, and without the links, if you don't feel strongly about it. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Show me how it meets WP:MUSIC and I'll go along with it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Akradecki, an article cannot be speedily deleted because it does not meet WP:MUSIC. To quote WP:MUSIC:
- Important note: Failing to satisfy the notability guidelines is not a criterion for speedy deletion. However, an article on an artist or band that does not indicate that the subject of the article is important or significant can be speedily deleted under criterion A7. A mere claim of significance, even if contested, may avoid speedy deletion under A7, requiring a full proposed deletion or Article for Deletion process to determine if the article should be included in Wikipedia.
- If you think the article should be deleted, take it to AfD, where more users will decide whether it meets WP:MUSIC, which it might (do a Google search and you will find a lot of articles about the band). -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:55, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- My point is, where was the claim of notability? You're absolutely right, that failing notability guidelines isn't a CSD reason, but as you well pointed out, there wasn't even text here, so where can there be a claim of notability? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- You deleted the article as a promotional one (I'm assuming G11), and there is no indication that you thought there was no assertion of notability until this discussion started. Moreover, I take issue with the fact that you saw it appropriate to speedily delete the article after another administrator (myself in this case) denied the speedy less than one minute earlier. Finally, having multiple albums is in itself an assertion of notability, and we as administrators (as opposed to bots) can make a judgement call on borderline cases such as this, so not all articles consisting only of Wikilinks and an infobox should automatically be deleted obviously. I am going to restore the article with some text and real links (it does appear to satisfy WP:MUSIC, as far as I can tell), so please AfD it if you feel that the subject is non-notable. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 23:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I apologize if I've offended you. I have every confidence that if you restore it, it will be done properly. As for deleting it after you declined, there was no intent to wheel war with you...when I deleted it, it still had the CSD tag on it. I suspect that we had it open at the same time, and that the EC warnings aren't equipped for such a situation. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- You deleted the article as a promotional one (I'm assuming G11), and there is no indication that you thought there was no assertion of notability until this discussion started. Moreover, I take issue with the fact that you saw it appropriate to speedily delete the article after another administrator (myself in this case) denied the speedy less than one minute earlier. Finally, having multiple albums is in itself an assertion of notability, and we as administrators (as opposed to bots) can make a judgement call on borderline cases such as this, so not all articles consisting only of Wikilinks and an infobox should automatically be deleted obviously. I am going to restore the article with some text and real links (it does appear to satisfy WP:MUSIC, as far as I can tell), so please AfD it if you feel that the subject is non-notable. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 23:05, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- My point is, where was the claim of notability? You're absolutely right, that failing notability guidelines isn't a CSD reason, but as you well pointed out, there wasn't even text here, so where can there be a claim of notability? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:57, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Akradecki, an article cannot be speedily deleted because it does not meet WP:MUSIC. To quote WP:MUSIC:
- Show me how it meets WP:MUSIC and I'll go along with it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:48, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- A7 is not a way to cheat AfD, and notability guidelines are irrelevant for speedy deletion anyway. Moreover, the article did not consist of, as you say, only links to external websites, but actually listed all of the band's members and albums. In cases like this, the links can simply be removed. I will restore the article with a basic lede, and without the links, if you don't feel strongly about it. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 22:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Moving to left
I have restored the article with some text and refs. It's not much, but I believe that the notability has been established because the band has been reviewed by multiple unrelated publications, and at least two of its albums were published by a notable label. This is not nearly all the info that's possible to get about this band on Google, but I don't have time to dig more (and in any case, I have no personal interest in the topic, just didn't think the article needed to be deleted). Again, if you still feel that the article should be deleted, please use AfD! I hope there are no hard feelings between us. Cheers, Ynhockey (Talk) 23:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- AfD not at all necessary...you've done well. Certainly no hard feelings on this end! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:59, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
Deletion review for Lauchlan Maclean, 2nd Laird of Brolas
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Lauchlan Maclean, 2nd Laird of Brolas. Since you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedy-deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 22:53, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks!
Input on "Strength Deployment Inventory"
Hello, Akradecki. I'm hoping to get some further guidance into your reasons for deleting "Strength Deployment Inventory." It was not my intention to add any blatant advertising to Wikipedia and I'm having a hard time figuring out where I went wrong. I'm happy to conform to guidelines. I took on this endeavor after finding the tool mentioned multiple times in other articles, but not containing an article definition of its own. In fact, I modeled my article after the format of two of the SDI's "peers" in the psychometric world: LIFO and Myers-Briggs Type Indicator. I have been working with the SDI for 13 years and know it's been a valued tool in the training and development world for nearly 40 years. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KentCarlsonPS (talk • contribs) 23:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- I also got the distinct impression that you were also associated with the publisher. True? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:50, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
- True. Does that prevent me from being able to post a starting article for other people to edit? Should I start with less information so people will feel more inclined to add to the article? I have only included content that is fact-based and the vast majority of content is quoted from other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KentCarlsonPS (talk • contribs) 00:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Our conflict of interest guidelines preclude you from writing about your own company or its products. Please see our FAQ for companies for more information. I would suggest posting a request at Wikipedia:REQUEST and let someone else write about it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Ah! Thanks for your guidance. Much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KentCarlsonPS (talk • contribs) 16:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Yes. Our conflict of interest guidelines preclude you from writing about your own company or its products. Please see our FAQ for companies for more information. I would suggest posting a request at Wikipedia:REQUEST and let someone else write about it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:36, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- True. Does that prevent me from being able to post a starting article for other people to edit? Should I start with less information so people will feel more inclined to add to the article? I have only included content that is fact-based and the vast majority of content is quoted from other sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by KentCarlsonPS (talk • contribs) 00:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Mytrendyphone
Hi, I have created page Mytrendyphone under a WikiProject Company. First time I made mistake and it's ok but second time I don't see breaking guidelines. I just want page about my company, like pages many of them. Can you help me?
Tnx Lepensky (talk) 00:16, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, but our conflict of interest guidelines preclude you from writing about your own company. Please see our FAQ for companies for more information. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:34, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Tnx for the quick answer. This is not my company, I am just fan from Serbia (company exist in 6 other countries, with same name). How Nokia or Microsoft have their own pages? Lepensky (talk) 00:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- So first you say it's your company, then you say it isn't? As for the others, they met the requirements of our notability policy, and had reliable and verifiable sources. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 01:04, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
Hi, I hope you can tell my why you deleted the page about the Norwegian rock band "GUSTU"? They are a released band, both in the US, China and Europe! With airplay on radio in Norway, China, USA and Japan. A new tour is under way, with shows in Asia, America and Europe, that's what we in the biz call a WORLD TOUR!!
There was alot of work doing this page with all the info about the band. Sure, there was some editing to do, but hey.. that's the point of Wikipedia isn't it?
So, if you don't want people to fuck up the articles you write, then please.. read the rules and READ THE ARTICLES BEFORE YOU DELETE THEM! I gotta say, this realy pissed me off! So if you don't put the article back up to the web, I will (togheter with the rest of the fanclubs all over the world) go on and make this into a big thing! I have read the ruls, I have talked to other user on Wikipedia, other editors and the official Wikipedia employees, and the only one who found out that deleting this article was a good idea, was you!
A fun fact is that the English article was the last page on the Wikipedia universe about the band GUSTU. We got articles about GUSTU in over 5 languages, and the only one who got deleted, was the english one, by you!! What does that tell you? Even if you might not have heard about the band or even like it, that doesn't matter, I couldn't care less! But when you, and you alone decides that this article should be deleted, that's just plain wrong!
So, fix it! not so kind regards,
Kevin Taylor, a pissed off fan and WIKIPEDIA WRITER! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gustumusic (talk • contribs)
- First, go read wp:civil, then come back when you want to speak politely and I'd be happy to address your concerns. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Funny stuff. He even used WP:SOFIXIT Enigmamsg 15:58, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
All I want to know is WHY you deleted the article!! But after reading your answer, there is clear that you don't have a reason. If you had a reason it would be easy to give me an answer! So, here I am, still waiting for you to fix it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.236.240.213 (talk) 07:31, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I don't respond to incivility. I you want to know the detailed reasons (and I have plenty), then come back and speak like a gentleman, and I'd be happy to have a congenial conversation about it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 12:38, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok then, could you please send me a e-mail to theaceband@hotmail.com and explain the reasons to me? thank you. Kind regards, a music fan! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.236.240.213 (talk) 12:13, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
- Discussions about articles, unless they contain sensitive information, need to stay on-wiki. I only have a moment right now on break, so in short, the article failed to meet the criteria of wp:music. The closest item was the charting, but the song didn't chart on a national chart, only a particular radio station's chart. I'd suggest waiting until the band comes out with one full album, does some official touring, and gets critical reviews, then write about it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
Ok, I can see that, but a new article like that, may not be all done, but more or less. And the band meets these points: 1. It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician or ensemble itself and reliable. (Ostlendingen paper, HA papaer, Lokalavisa, Osterdolen, Blikk, HamarUngdom and other papers and magazines).
10. Has performed music for a work of media that is notable, e.g. a theme for a network television show, performance in a television show or notable film, inclusion on a compilation album, etc. (But if this is the only claim, it is probably more appropriate to have a mention in the main article and redirect to that article.) (on this point the band has: inclusion on a compilation album (Riot on Sunset), Inclution on a awardwinning short-film in Norway and a TV add for a political party)
11. Has been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network. (12 weeks on the 1st place at Top 8, NRK P1 (norways biggest radiostation), heavy rotation on RadioLand radio, and listed on rotation on NRK P3 norways biggest pop and rock radio station.
12. Has been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network. (Done radio interviews with more then three big radiostations of over a half hour each)
The band is also planning a release june 1st. with a following tour, so that's also a point..
So, I can't say I understand it, would be great to hear from you again.. thanks..
- So wait until June, when they actually have an album out. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 13:23, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
Now I feel that you are rude. But the rules are clear on this point, and GUSTU can check 4 points in the ruls, when all you realy need is to have onlye one! So I can't say I understand this! So if I delete one of your articles, I can do so, if I personaly haven't heard of the things you write about and don't like it? That's the way you represent yourself in this case at least, IMO. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.236.240.213 (talk) 08:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
There's a problem. Started off with blatant plagiarism and now it is edit-warring with an IP as well. Would you be able to block the account and IP? Enigmamsg 17:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- another promotional piece created by a sockpuppet of MiamiJazz. Enigmamsg 20:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please, is there anything you can do about the two articles? They're both disasters. On the Royce Campbell one, a sock or meatpuppet keeps adding questionable material while removing the article tags. Enigmamsg 02:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- I really wish you would stop referring to Coderite and myself as sockpuppets and meatpuppets. I don't know anything about Jim Corder and you will NEVER see me add any information to that page. Furthermore, what happend to assuming good faith? In addition, the Royce Campbell page did not start off as blatant plagiarism as I have full permission to use ALL the copyrighted material on the Royce Campbell site. If need be I can provide proof. I just want these senseless allegations to stop. MiamiJazz (talk) 15:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- If you're going to use copyrighted material, you need to understand a few things. First, you need to understand that it can't just be permission for Wikipedia to use it, it needs to be permission for anyone anywhere to use it any time. The point of Wikipedia is that we make the material here available for anyone to freely use it for any purpose, including commercial usage. Are you sure that the permission that you have covers that? If it does, you need to document that permission by carefully following the steps outlined at WP:PERMISSIONS including providing a copy of that to Wikipedia by email, and then adding the OTRS ticket number to the article's talk page. The red flag that this raises in my mind is why/how you got permission. Usually that means that the editor is directly connected to the subject (ie, working for a promoter, etc.). You need to be clearly aware that this would be a conflict of interest. Wikipedia is not a place for promoters to laud their clients. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- What is disastrous about the Royce Campbell page? Which material is questionable? If you speak to the areas where there are problems, then I might be able to address them. What language is promotional? What information is not accurately cited? What needs to happen to get this article into shape? So far, Enigmamsg has not responded to me, nor to the comment I left on his talk page. Please help? Corderite75 (talk) 03:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not going to presume to speak for Enigma, but my main concern, beyond the copyright issue which I've addressed to MiamiJazz above, is the strong promotional tone that the contributions lately have had. Wikipedia is not a place to promote or review anyone, and the tone/language used needs to be very neutral. Right now, this looks like a "glowing" review, and that is primarily what's being objected to. Quite frankly, it can be difficult for a fan to write about a performer, because the fan naturally thinks highly of the performer, and thus the language - adjectives especially - tend to naturally find their way into the text. Articles here should be written in an "encyclopedic" tone that documents the facts and no more. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- I understand your concern about the language appearing as though it is a review or promotion of Royce Campbell, and I wish to make the language of this article as impartial/neutral as possible. Campbell's career and notability--and the need for information about him to be included on Wikipedia--extends far, far beyond my personal perspective on him as a fan. In fact, I do research on a variety of topics--jazz guitarists is just one of many research interests. Thus, I have no problems understanding the distinction between material that is intended to promote and review vs. factual, verifiable, encyclopedic information that intended for use as a source of reference. I will keep reconsidering and revising the language until it conforms with Wikipedia's guidelines. Thanks for your response! ---Corderite75 (talk) 18:44, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- I'm not going to presume to speak for Enigma, but my main concern, beyond the copyright issue which I've addressed to MiamiJazz above, is the strong promotional tone that the contributions lately have had. Wikipedia is not a place to promote or review anyone, and the tone/language used needs to be very neutral. Right now, this looks like a "glowing" review, and that is primarily what's being objected to. Quite frankly, it can be difficult for a fan to write about a performer, because the fan naturally thinks highly of the performer, and thus the language - adjectives especially - tend to naturally find their way into the text. Articles here should be written in an "encyclopedic" tone that documents the facts and no more. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:51, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
- I really wish you would stop referring to Coderite and myself as sockpuppets and meatpuppets. I don't know anything about Jim Corder and you will NEVER see me add any information to that page. Furthermore, what happend to assuming good faith? In addition, the Royce Campbell page did not start off as blatant plagiarism as I have full permission to use ALL the copyrighted material on the Royce Campbell site. If need be I can provide proof. I just want these senseless allegations to stop. MiamiJazz (talk) 15:34, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
SPAMer?
Alan, could you look at the user who added this diff? His username is related to the link he added, though it's possible it's just a fan. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 21:28, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Done! Thanks for the heads-up!AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:11, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
About the deletion of Electricsheep page
Hi, we do not understand why the page we uploaded was cancelled. This band (Electricsheep) really exists and has at least one thousand fans all over Switzerland and even in Europe. They have a concert activity and an active discussion with their fans in Facebook, Myspace and Music.ch. We would like to kindly ask you to please reactivate the page or at least to give us a copy of the original text since we did not make any copy of the same. Thanks, C. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kzarrr75 (talk • contribs) 22:43, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
- Please go read WP:MUSIC. Wikipedia is NOT MySpace. A thousand fans does not make a band notable in encyclopedic terms. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:13, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
ok can we at least have the text you deleted by email or something like that? thanks,C.comment added by Kzarrr75 (talk • contribs) 07:40, 26 March 2009 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.56.71.5 (talk)
- Sure. Article is now in a sandbox for you, here: User:Kzarrr75/sandbox. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 12:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks a lot! Just one last quick question, from how many fans on a band becomes worthy to be cited in wikipedia? I am sorry if I am not able to sign this comment properly, I am not very expert with this kind of software yet...Kzarrr75 —Preceding undated comment added 20:33, 26 March 2009 (UTC).
- "Notability" has nothing directly to do with number of fans. Again, go read WP:MUSIC. It has everything to do with the number of other reliable sources who have "taken note" of the subject. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
List of Power Rangers voice actors
Thank you for deleting List of Power Rangers voice actors after I prodded it. However I see that someone has recreated the article on the talk page. I guess this should be interpreted as disputing the deletion, so I think it's best if you restore the article and its history, if you wouldn't mind, and I will take it to AFD. Benefix (talk) 20:50, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
- It's an IP, and I took it as simply vandalism, which I've deleted again. You sure you want to go AfD? AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:08, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
In case you're interested...
Hello. I notice you've recently edited Alberto Santos-Dumont. I've requested a community GA reassessment and thought you might like to comment. Cheers.
Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Alberto Santos-Dumont/1
APK thinks he's ready for his closeup 13:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know. Time is a bit of an issue at the moment, but I'll try to take a closer look in the next few days. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 16:43, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
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Hi Akradecki!
I'm new here to wikipedia and I recently saw that the company I work as an intern for didn't have a page here on wiki. So I added it with basic information and the page, as well as the logo has been deleted two times(the last time was by you on an account of an A7). So obviously I'm doing something wrong. All of the pages on how to do this stuff are confusing me. Could you help me out by explaining a bit? Thanks, and cheers! I think it might have been because all of the info was from the Stratogon Website. Nomardll769 (talk) 20:16, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. Actually, there are a number of things that need to be dealt with. First, since you work there, it's a conflict of interest for you to be writing about your employer. Second, you need to understand that just because a company exists doesn't make it automatically qualify for a Wikipedia article. There are a number of standards that a company has to meet in order for it to qualify...we call that "encyclopedic notability". Remember, we're an encyclopedia, not an online product catalog and guide to all companies everywhere. As presented, the article has no reliable sources that are independent of the company and provide verifiability - the best way to explain "notability" is that other non-trivial, mainstream media sources need to have "taken note" of the company, and your article needs to cite those sources...think of it as a practical use for all those term papers you learned to write in high school, where the teacher insisted that use find and properly cite all those references. So far in the article presented, there is no indication that the company rises to the level of encyclopedic notability that meets the standard of WP:CORP. All of those blue links that I just created give a lot of guidance. It will take you some time to read through them, but it's really important that you take the time to do it. Good luck, and if you have any specific questions, let me know. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:37, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help and advice! Those are good resources for guidance and I am reading them right now. As for the COI, I'm not sure what to do. Do you think I should just let another person write the page in the future, or write it and have others approve of it? Nomardll769 (talk) 21:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- You might consider listing it at Wikipedia:Requested articles, and see if someone picks up on it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Cool, I put it on there. I hope somebody picks up on it. There is quite a bit of a backlog on there though. I know a lot about some of the video games that are on that list. Since I do know a bit, and can get references I'll probably create some other wiki pages on those games.Nomardll769 (talk)
- That would be fantastic if you'd lend your expertise to that end. You might want to check out Wikipedia:Your first article, which gives some excellent guidance. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:10, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- Cool, I put it on there. I hope somebody picks up on it. There is quite a bit of a backlog on there though. I know a lot about some of the video games that are on that list. Since I do know a bit, and can get references I'll probably create some other wiki pages on those games.Nomardll769 (talk)
- You might consider listing it at Wikipedia:Requested articles, and see if someone picks up on it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 22:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help and advice! Those are good resources for guidance and I am reading them right now. As for the COI, I'm not sure what to do. Do you think I should just let another person write the page in the future, or write it and have others approve of it? Nomardll769 (talk) 21:07, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
Copyright Violation
I did NOT claim that I prepared all of the image. Underlying image is from Google. I only draw Metro system over this. I read the usage of Google Images. Google allows the usage of their images as long as the Google emblem is protected on the image and the name "Google" is referecenced. Gercekkaynarca (talk) 07:58, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
- First, you DID claim that it was yours. In fact, the exact wording you used was "I created this work entirely by myself." Second, you then "released" the image into the public domain without any indication that you had the right to do that. Third, you did not list where you got the underlying image from. Are you sure it was a Google-owned image? Images that turn up in a Google image search are NOT owned by Google, and you can't just release them or use them as you please. If it is a Google image, you need to list the source, and list a link to the license that allows its use. If you don't do this, it is a copyright violation. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:44, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
I was wondering if you would not mind restoring this page such that I could modify the deleted content such that the content would be sufficient for Wikipedia.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 07:56, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
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For the tireless work on AFCs, deletions, and other administrative tasks that often go unnoticed (you know what happens when they do get noticed!) Keep upholding the policies that keep WP from being a total madhouse! Especially the editors with gusto. :) BillCJ (talk) 08:59, 2 April 2009 (UTC) | ![]() |
Lost a sock?
Alan, do you know a good sock-hunter? User:Bushcutter has been editing Jamaica, and has a style similar to User:Hoserjoe, a indefinitely banned user known to employ socks. I'm just suspicious at this point, but thought I'd have it checked before he does any more damage on the Jamaica pages. Thanks. (And no, the Barnstar was given before I tackled this task!) :) - BillCJ (talk) 09:16, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Good find. Both edit history and other evidence makes it conclusive. I've indef blocked. Let me know if he shows up elsewhere. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- OK, thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 03:56, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
VivaNorthCyprus
Gercekkaynarca (talk · contribs) is Confirmed. He bypassed my two hard rangeblocks by requesting IP block exemption last month. In addition, this user was editing on 83.66.22.10 (talk · contribs · WHOIS), which appears to have been used by blocked sockpuppeteer Justice Forever. From a cursory glance, they appear to be the same user. Coincidence? Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 20:14, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
- Many thanks for doing that...hardly a coincidence, just a very determined person. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
AfD nomination of Skyline Turbine
An article that you have been involved in editing, Skyline Turbine, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Skyline Turbine. Thank you.
Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. DMacks (talk) 03:29, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Suspicions
Alan, we have an editor makings some contentious edits on a number of pages. His edit histor is pretty thin (less than 100 edits since July), but he seems familiar with WP rules. This comment is particularly uncivil, and somewhat reminiscent of a banned cruft promoter, ToughHead (I think that's the main name - he used so many I can't keep up). It's possible that this is someone else who is blocked/banned, but I thought of Tough when I saw the comments on the AC-130 talk page. He is also removing large chunks of Leads from other articles, with comments on this removal here. He may just be an aggressive editor, per his name, but he does need to throttle back a bit. Can you check this out too? Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 17:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Speedy delete
Please delete this crap http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahamdanis R3ap3R.inc (talk) 21:28, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like someone beat me to it. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 23:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Geekologie
Would you mind taking a look at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Geekologie, as you previously speedied this article. Thanks, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
- Hey Akradecki. I replied to your post on Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Geekologie but I wanted to make sure that you saw it. Geekologie has been featured by the BBC website, G4TV's Attack of the Show, and on DVice (SyFy Channel's blog). I'm not bugging you to try and get you to eventually cave and endorse this article. I'm asking you because I know that you're critical and unbiased in your reviews. If you did miss that coverage, let me know what you think. If not, I'll put that article on a shelf until it becomes notable (which may be never). BBC is obviously reliable but G4 and SciFi are up in the air (becuase G4 and SciFi are more about entertainment than unbiased news coverage). I hope this isn't too much of a bother. Here is the most recent version. OlYellerTalktome 02:42, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
Please Delete
Can you delete 方舟浸信教會 complete instead? I tried to delete it when I realized that I should not post non-US page here but can't find a way to do it. Thanks. User:shihaoliu —Preceding undated comment added 02:58, 5 April 2009 (UTC).
- It is fully deleted. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 14:57, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
Banishment query
Hi Alan. I think you asked me to post my query here, not under BillCJ(talk). I posted the query here several hours ago, but it looks like my query was deleted. Is that so? Can you tell me how to proceed? You mentioned I should apologise, but I need know who was offended. BillCJ says it's nothing to do with him, yet you said an apology is necessary. Can you clarify? Bushcutter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.131.164 (talk) 06:03, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- You have clearly edited under more than one account. You have started a new account to avoid the indef block of you old one. That's a violation of our policies. You need to go back to your original account, acknowledge your improper usage of multiple accounts as well as the incivility, commit to not editing in that manner in the future, and ask to be unblocked. Simple as that. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:00, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- " . . .You need to go back to your original account . . ." OK, I'll bite - just out of curiosity. I suspect you're deliberately being disingenuous, but I'm willing to hear you out. How does one do that if (a) the account is closed and (b) the admin is in jail? Bushcutter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.131.164 (talk) 06:20, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Joe, I just wanted to let you know that Alan is on vacation for a week or so, per a note he left on my talk page. Also, as far as I know, appealing a block or ban has nothing to do with the blocking admin, so there should be a way around that. You may end up having to email a Wikipedia Bureaucrat or something directly, but Alan should know. - BillCJ (talk) 10:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, Bill, I appreciate the feedback. Perhaps I should approach this from another angle. After being blocked by a banned admin (but not banned by a community for bad behaviour, etc), I opened another fresh account under WP's policy of Wikipedia:Sock puppetryClean start under a new name. This appears to be official policy, and I carefully followed the directions, being certain to not use the old name ever again, and to not edit the page with the contested content again. Since I followed the official policy to the letter, what appears to be the problem? I'm still not sure what the problem was, and I'm raising the question here since it's Alan Radecki who did the block. No other admins, users, or complainers asked for a block. Are you able to help me with this, or does it have to go to a dispute resolution process? Bushcutter
New editor bent on crusades
A, take a look at some of the edits taking place which remove large amounts of text complete with cites, see:this FWiW Bzuk (talk) 13:20, 5 April 2009 (UTC).
- Thank you for taking Bzuk's side without informing me what you were talking about and taking 0 good faith. I'm glad to see that the longer term aviation people like to gang up on people. This article was marked as being a mess and if you look farther then one edit you will see their was a section for "Updates to A-10" and one for "development of A-10" and then one that lists the same updates under the first A-10C squad in 2007. Even when cited I doubt we need the same information 3 times on one page, and the site could apply to the combined section. I plan do do the same on other pages I've posted in the talk page about before doing so such as the B-36 which Bzuk has shown to complain about also, so I don't think the talk page is good enough for him either. Be Bold In Edits (talk) 18:41, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- The point is that if you're going to remove cited material, you need to discuss it and give reasons. Your explanation here sounds reasonable, but what you really need to do is go to the talk page of the article and discuss it there, in a non-confrontational way. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 12:32, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- You guys are all right, I am here to announce my original research that the 44 hour day is not superior to the 24 hour day. Sorry for my over reaction and general cranky tear. I think I'm starting to understand the idea of finding interested people and talking to them.
Be Bold In Edits (talk) 22:53, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
Contesting PROD
I want to contest this prod. WP:PROD says to ask you, then take it to DRV, though contested PRODs are always speedily restored at DRV (that I've seen). I think the policy may be out of date, but I figured the safest thing to do it follow it to the letter. WilyD 15:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
- Done. You might want to address the issue that it was deleted for...if you go back and look at the prod message, they have a good point. This needs some sources to demonstrate notability. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 12:30, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have no doubt it'll end up at AFD, no matter how much notability is demonstrated, so it'll get deleted unless that's done, yes. Thanks. WilyD 14:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Looks like it was deleted at AfD after all. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:26, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- I have no doubt it'll end up at AFD, no matter how much notability is demonstrated, so it'll get deleted unless that's done, yes. Thanks. WilyD 14:06, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
PROD misuse
Alan, could you take a look at Talk:Joseph-Armand Bombardier#Proposed Deletion, and weigh in on the proper uses of PRODs? I've looked at the guidleines, but not found anything clear on using PRODs for notability questions. There are other points that should be apparent on reading the section. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 16:37, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
- Hi Bill...I see no problem with the use of Prod for notability issues. Can't go much farther into it, though, as I'm heading off on vacation. Will try to check in periodically, but won't have massive amounts of time to donate to the project till next week. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 21:33, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
Thomas Corns
I missed the PROD of Thomas Corns before it happened. Not necessarily contesting it -- may be a borderline case -- but would quite like to review the article to check whether it was missing any references that might be significant under WP:BIO. Can you make the text of the deleted article available to me? Then I'll take a look and see where we're at. Thanks. Mooncow (talk) 06:05, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
- Userfied and replied on your talk page. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:19, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks Alan. I am unlikely to want to reinstate the article -- I agree with the PROD -- but may merge it (or part) into one of the articles that formerly referenced it (there were four such). Mooncow (talk) 01:13, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
Hello. I have just recently found that a page called Talk:List of Power Rangers voice actors in which you deleted has been recreated by an IP editor. Just so you know, so you'll decide on what to do with it. Thanks!. —Mythdon t/c 04:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
This appears to be another sockpuppet of VivaNorthCyprus. Check the Talk:Northern Cyprus revision history. Richwales (talk) 07:50, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note...looks like someone else already blocked. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:18, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
I can't believe that I'm forced to contact you via this page as you won't reply to the email I sent. That said, you deleted an article on the music group I:Scintilla, which I and a few others maintained. Can you please explain your reasons behind this? Also, if possible, we would request that the page be restored because there were no copyright violations. Please reply. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iscintilla (talk • contribs) 22:10, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
- I'm sorry you can't believe it, but most Wikipedia business should be discussed on talk pages to provide for transparency. Generally, I only use email for Wikipedia purposes when there is sensitive content. There's several things I'd like to discuss. First, I have an issue with your involvement with the article. Actually, I'm glad that you did email me, because your email address revealed that you are directly connected to the band, and your message stated that you are "the primary force behind the i:scintilla music and brand". This makes you essentially ineligible to edit the article, because it's a violation of our conflict of interest guidelines and I'll be posting a note on your talk page with more information about that. Second, as to the deletion, I just went and triple checked. It was nominated for speedy as a copyvio, and upon checking I found that the text of the article was taken verbatim from here, and that website it clearly marked "all content copyright (c) 2003-2008 i:scintilla". That makes it a copyright violation. Lastly, you said, about the deletion, "it's equally frustrating when one considers wikipedia's priority in google search results". We are not here to promote your band's google search standings! You clearly are using the encyclopedia to promote your business entity. That's simply not acceptable. If your band is notable (as we define notability), then someone uninvolved will most likely notice it, and write an article which both describes what makes it notable and support that with independent reliable sources. Until that time comes, though, I won't be restoring the article. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:48, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
Probable COI
Alan, could you take a look at Talk:National Football League in Toronto#Creating a new article for Bills Toronto Series? In fact, it might be something for the corporate side to handle. At least the guy is being up-front about it. Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 00:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks! - BillCJ (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
Beurlin
Hello, I am a Roman teacher, journalist and (waiting to be published) writer.. I saw that you cancelled part of my text about Beurling... :) I am pretty new... I see that there is a kind of control about what people write.. am I wrong? :) That's nice but if wikipedia is a free enciclopedya why there are people like you that have the authotitY to cancel or correct why other write? :) Sorry I am pretty new and still "green" about writing... regards, gian piero --Gian piero milanetti (talk) 23:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- I didn't "cancel" anything. My edit can be found with this dif: [1]. All I did was correct to spelling errors in your text. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 20:12, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
ANigg and copyvios
Alan, you might be interested in WP:ANI#Copyvio report assistance. Also, I was actually looking at UH-72 Lakota regarding File:USA Lakota.jpg uploaded by User:Wolfpac032, and noted some comments on the talk page about File:UH-72A_Lakota.jpg, it's duplicate which was apparantly uploaded by Andrew. What's interesting is a defense of the image by User:AQMD, who also showed up a couple of weeks ago on CH-148 Cyclone claiming "He is the Photographer from Sik. corp I've seen the Negitives", regarding File:S-92 First Flight.jpg, which was also a copyvio uploaded at least twice by user User:Skydog1531. Perhaps a checkuser on all these users would be useful? Thanks. - BillCJ (talk) 23:40, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
- ANigg's been indef blocked, as he did not respond to any any attempts to contact him. He did some good work, so I'm sad for him that he felt the need to do this too. Hopefully he'll turn around, and be a productive editor once again. - BillCJ (talk) 23:27, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
Another set of editor eyes
Hi Akradecki. We ran into each other previously on the WhiteKnightTwo article so I know you have some interest and knowledge in the development of Wikipedia articles on private space.
I would like to get some additional eyes on a topic that has come up on the article formerly titled Talk:List_of_private_spaceflight_companies and just recently retitled (today) to List of space tourism companies. A discussion is going on at Talk:List_of_private_spaceflight_companies#Clarification_of_the_list_title (or was, it might now be called List of space tourism companies#Clarification_of_the_list_title). I am inviting you as an editor, not as an administrator, as I don't think there are any major problems that can't be fixed by input from a few more arms-length voices.
The net is that there has been a rather significant change to the article name/scope by another (quite well-intentioned) editor, with questionable "consensus" for such a significant change. But what to do now is the question. Thanks for reading this far. Cheers. N2e (talk) 04:51, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks very much for your input to the discussion on Talk:List_of_private_spaceflight_companies. Much appreciated. I think that article is back in good (interim) order and will improve over time as it evolves in Wikipedia fashion.
- I believe it will be useful to have a meta-discussion to hash out the issue of the scope of Private spaceflight or privately-funded space or NewSpace, and that this will likely affect several WP articles. To that end, I have made an initial proposal to get started on Talk:NewSpace and on Talk:Private spaceflight. You are invited to participate. And if you know other similarly interested editors, please do let them know as well. Cheers. N2e (talk) 05:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)