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Wikiproject's flagship article up at FAR

Nominated by Tony1 (talk · contribs) YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 23:44, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated because it's missing "alt" information on images. --AussieLegend (talk) 07:30, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There are also some clear problems with the prose and some of the sources, or so it seems to me. Given that this is one of the very early FA articles, this is probably an opportunity to give the article a bit of a tidy. Not sure how FAR works; does the article need to meet the existing FAR standards, or the standards at the time the FA star was awarded? -- Mattinbgn\talk 07:35, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Current standards, but the FAR people are friendly, so you get time and support. Mostly it involves fixing referencing, making sure it is consistent and to current standards, and making sure that coverage and prose are complete, current and good quality. - Bilby (talk) 07:44, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes there are other sources, but I found the official nominating rationale a bit odd. It needs to meet current FA standards, although truth be told, most of the most serious reviewers only hang around FAC. And the FAR can last six months if there is steady work. Canada has been there six months with dribs and drabs coming in each week YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(ec) yes the monkey doesn't bite, and won't be closing this one anyway YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 07:46, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And Raul seems to have better things to do, so this could be around for a while, I guess. —Aaroncrick (talk) 08:58, 16 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And Canberra is a sitting duck as well YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:01, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

More hands on deck are needed. It will be rather embarrassing if the main article gets punted off YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 06:51, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have started buffing the article Australia but it is heavy going - if anyone else can help with political references it would be greatly appreciated. I am sure most can be reffed by trawling through federal parliament website. I just need a break from it and will return later to do more enviro stuff on it. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Politics seems to be all sourced (Indeed, all sections prior to Demography are okay). Culture is a disorganised and unsourced mess though. We are missing a section on Health. We definitely need more people to help out; Australia should not be demoted without a fight :) —Dark 11:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Cannabis in Australia

Hey, just created a new page about cannabis in Australia to line up with Wiki information regarding cannabis in the US and UK. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_in_Australia Thanks. bessmorris 05:57, 26 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bessmorris (talk • contribs)

That's an impressively well-researched article. In case you didn't know, you can refer to previous references by adding name="asdf" to the <ref> tag - I've done a few to show you how. TRS-80 (talk) 08:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Interesting, well done :) —Aaroncrick (talk) 10:07, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Bloody vandals!

I've heard about Sulphur-crested Cockatoos being rather bad vandals but of late I noticed some holes forming on the Historic Council Chambers and some foam on the ground along wall of a local shopping centre, a week ago I found who was the culprits!

File:Damage to Polyurethane on a tin roof caused by Sulphur-crested Cockatoos.jpg, File:Sulphur-crested Cockatoos damaging a shopping centre facade.jpg and File:Sulphur-crested Cockatoos damaging a shopping centre facade 4.jpg.

Well at least Wiki vandals don't do this! Bidgee (talk) 11:38, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And at least if they do, you can revert it to its previous state. Doesn't work too well with shopping centres, unfortunately. Orderinchaos 11:44, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If they did, you would want to rollback too far! ;) Bidgee (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. "Centro, your expansion of this shopping centre without consultation or any form of consensus is completely out of process and looks like vandalism to me. REVERT!" *crash* Orderinchaos 12:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a WP:RS that the cockatoos were responsible? Looks like WP:OR or WP:SYNTH to me. They may have just been inspecting the damage. Beware, you don't want to get the Cocky Cabal offside.The-Pope (talk) 11:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cockatoos vandalise Wagga - iPrime and Armed with a sharp destructive weapon Wagga's newest villains are scaling - The Daily Advertiser. ;) :P Bidgee (talk) 12:04, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cockatoo attacks in Australia?The-Pope (talk) 12:10, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
They haven't attacked humans yet, only man-made objects! ;) Bidgee (talk) 12:40, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hmmmm. I had to do first aid on a colleague who had been helping students feed cockatoos at a Dandenongs reserve. Cue The BIrds. HiLo48 (talk) 01:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
classic photo bidgee, I've been looking for a photo like this for a while, and now duly added to Cockatoo article. Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Somewhere in my archive of photos I have photos of white cockies actually in the cbd of melbourne (2009) attacking a hotels false facade - it was raining styrofoam - literally onto the footpath 8 floors down - only ave fotos tho SatuSuro 02:00, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wonder what the EPA has to say about the littering! ;) Mean while I'm still wondering if this is an april fools joke, just doesn't right IMO. Bidgee (talk) 13:07, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Protection of Albert Namatjira

Apparently Albert Namatjira is on the school curriculum as the last 100 or so edits to him has either been anon vandalism or reverting of such. Could someone with the authority please protect poor old Namatjira? --Roisterer (talk) 11:49, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've semi-protected the article for a week to give him a rest for a while. --Melburnian (talk) 12:11, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. The main image of Albert on his page is the look of a man wearied by the sheer number of edits claiming he ate mud pie. This may cheer him up a bit. --Roisterer (talk) 12:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Speaking of which, do you think that the photo really is a personal collection one as claimed? YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 00:44, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It was uploaded by one of our most prolific contibutors, I'd have no reason to doubt it. Melburnian (talk) 01:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not really surprised at anything I find in private collections any more.[1] --AussieLegend (talk) 01:16, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Updated ABS population statistics

For those that are interested, the ABS has released updated Regional Population Growth statistics. These are used here on Wiki for assessing the population of LGAs and SDs. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:51, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks heaps for that - been waiting for that to show up!! Orderinchaos 22:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just painstakingly updated the list but can't be stuffed doing the capital cities (excluding Darwin and Brisbane). See User:Bidgee/2010 pop update as all that is needed it to fix Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne, Hobart Adelaide and Perth before it can be added to the List of cities in Australia by population article.
Now I've got a headache! Bidgee (talk) 13:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

CFD

Notification - Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2010_March_29#Category:Australian_rugby_league_teams. "Propose merging of Category:Australian rugby league clubs and Category: Australian rugby league teams" I have no opinion whatsoever on it as I know nothing about rugby league (being from an AFL state) but it seemed sensible to ask here for input as I know we have a few NSWers :) Orderinchaos 22:19, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The categories definitely need tidying up but the proposed merge suggestion is a poor one. New South Wales rugby league team, for example, is certainly a rugby league team and just as certainly not a rugby league club. -- Mattinbgn\talk 22:43, 30 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Merge stations (rail, bus and ferry) into three articles

See here. Gerry (talk) 07:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

World Sudoku Championship

In case anyone's wondering, World Sudoku Championship, which was the subject of a fine documentary screened yesterday, does actually exist. Andjam (talk) 08:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just in case someone wants a reliable source for the Australians winning the drinking competition at Goa - [2] Hack (talk) 03:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suburbs and localities

An editor has proposed a rewrite and renaming of Suburbs and localities (Australia) at Talk:Suburbs and localities (Australia)#Proposed rewrite. His proposed version, with new name, is at User:Cassowary/Location in Australia. Aside from what I consider to be a horrible name, the article has a decidedly Victorian slant. --AussieLegend (talk) 23:13, 2 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a Victorian slant. Is it perhaps an indicator that Australia does not have a uniform approach over all states and territories, and perhaps having one article for all of Australia is an inappropriate aim? (I also learnt my word for the day - salience. Now, I'm not the world's most literary person, but we mustn't aim too academically in the readability stakes.) HiLo48 (talk) 02:42, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, it's different in WA - we have Suburbs in urban areas and Localities elsewhere (noting that localities only exist where they have been established and in many remote/outer parts of the state, they haven't) - "town" has its own meaning in WA legislation independently from this (equivalent to "townsite" elsewhere). Orderinchaos 05:25, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Just something related to the 'low saliance' of LGAs. Do you think the council boundaries should be removed from the new state location maps that are on most towns? like NSW. It's not usual to show them on general use maps.Roke (talk) 09:12, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, drop the municipal boundaries. Roads and rivers would be much more help. HiLo48 (talk) 07:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah - we do need something to give people an indication of where in the state something is beyond merely location, but I agree LGAs is probably not it. Orderinchaos 08:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Barrier Reef oil spill

Started an article on yesterday's/today's oil spill following a ship running aground off Rockhampton. The oil is threatening the Great Barrier Reef, specifically the area around Great Keppel Island. Article is at 2010 Great Barrier Reef oil spill: hopefully, I'm not duplicating anyone else's efforts. -- saberwyn 07:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I hate these early news articles, while inital articles are calling it an oil spill thats not really a descriptive of the event from what I'm hearing the real damage is going to occur when they try to salvage the vessel. would suggest something more towards Grounding of the Shen Neng One... Gnangarra 13:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I know where you are coming from, but atm there is a small oil spill, it is on the GBR, and that is what news headlines are describing it as. So I think the current name is apt. - Shiftchange (talk) 14:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What is our article on Pasha Bulker called? That's what we should be using as a model Orderinchaos 11:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Answering my own question - it's at MV Pasha Bulker and is in the following categories: Ships of Panama | Maritime incidents in 2007 | 2007 in Australia | History of New South Wales | 2006 ships Orderinchaos 11:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Someone else had the same idea:-MV Shen Neng 1 Melburnian (talk) 12:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
(EC) What about the other oil incident in QLD a few months ago? Melburnian found it! :P Bloody slow mobile broadband! Bidgee (talk) 12:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
There's also 2009 southeast Queensland oil spill Melburnian (talk) 12:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, how did I forget about that article! Bidgee (talk) 12:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmmmmm. Never one to claim that I am normal, but I wouldn't have remembered the above incidents by the names of the ships. I tend to recall place and approximate year. That Pasha Bulka one - I remembered it was at Newcastle, a couple of years ago, but only recalled the name when I saw it in print here. So, ship names wouldn't work for me. Places and dates do. Maybe it's different if the event is more local to you. HiLo48 (talk) 17:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Pasha Bulker article is linked from June 2007 Hunter Region and Central Coast storms, which was the major event that resulted in me losing my pristine 2000 Dark Mica Red Subaru Outback, and also during which that red boat stuffed up surfing at Nobbys Beach. I drove 2.6km that night without leaving knee deep water....sigh.... Anyway, the ship article is easily found through the major event (although getting AAMI to pick my car up and then getting my stuff back was far more of an effort than pulling the boat off the beach and cleaning up the damage in the lower Hunter combined!) so all bases are covered there, and should be here. I miss my car. --AussieLegend (talk) 19:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Awww. Sorry to hear that. (And lol re AAMI - typical insurance...) Orderinchaos 19:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
On the article's talk, Mjroots has proposed a logical split for the two articles: grounding- and oil spill -specific info in the oil spill article, ship-specific info in the ship article. -- saberwyn 21:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Harris Scarfe

Would just like to get some input at this discussion. Thanks -- sk8er5000 yeah? 21:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wombat attacks in Australia

I am sure we once had an article on this topic!!! :) -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

According to our Wombat article they "may display acts of aggression ... if they are simply in a bad mood" Melburnian (talk) 00:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I think I must be a wombat because that's what I do. --AussieLegend (talk) 00:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
What about Fatso the Wombat from A Country Practice? (Bidgee is on the Irrigation Way in Yanco, so can't post for long ;) ) Bidgee (talk) 00:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Can't add anything in the way of proper, reliable sources, but I know from a lifetime of personal experience (classical OR!) in the hills of Gippsland, that the common story is that of a young wombat, still in the wild, occasionally being hand fed by humans, then growing into a 40 kg adult with sharp claws and teeth who sees all humans as potential sources of food. Bad enough with adult humans, but really bad with 10kg toddlers around! (This is when the (generally understandable) OR ban is Wikipedia is very frustrating.) HiLo48 (talk) 01:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Are you referring to Fatso the Fat-Arsed Wombat from the 2000 Summer Olympics, or a different wombat called Fatso? Andjam (talk) 12:21, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It might be appropriate to mention Mattinbgn's article or this (ABC article) in the Wombat article, as those are not WP:OR. Donama (talk) 22:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Checked out Melbourne's two daily newspapers today. The Herald Sun found an expert who said that wombats never hurt people, and The Age found one who said quite the opposite. We normally regard both as reliable sources. HiLo48 (talk) 08:26, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Categories for discussion nomination of Category:Australian rugby league clubs

Category:Australian rugby league clubs, which is under the purview of this WikiProject, has been nominated for deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- Black Falcon (talk) 00:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Peer review/Gough Whitlam/archive1

Gough is probably one of the more hotly-debated and provocative topics in Australian society, so a specific heads-up YellowMonkey (vote in the Southern Stars and White Ferns supermodel photo poll) 01:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Senate inquiry

I was wondering if anyone knows if Senate inquiries are open to the public? I'm wanting to photograph a few visiting senators[3]. I don't know the workings of an Senate inquiry. ;) Bidgee (talk) 09:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

its listed as a public hearing[4] so it should be open for you to attend, nt sure what the position will be on day but if your there early you should be able to photograph them as they arrive. Since its tomorrow just arrive early and ask for an organiser to get permission first. Gnangarra 09:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Cheers for that Gnangarra! I have some photos but those which were taken while the Senate inquiry may not make it online (need to read the policy regarding Senate inquiries but was told what I could take and couldn't). Also Scott Ryan is willing to let us use his photograph (I'm sending him an email, so he can send the copy and the OTRS). Bidgee (talk) 07:52, 8 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
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