Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Internet

Questions of purview

What to tag? TCP/IP protocols that are of use on the interwebs proper (ie other than DHCP-style protocols that are only used on local isolated networks) are fairly obvious candidates to be dealt with here. Web boom/bust businesses and web 2.x businesses & certain Internet appliances, NGOs like IETF, ARPA, etc. seem to fit well here, as do. Seems to me like some overlap with the Computer networking WP would do more good than harm, but to try to duplicate the efforts of Wikipedia:WikiProject Internet culture would have us drowning in pirates and ninjas. Thoughts? Other areas underserved?MrZaius^talk 14:52, 14 September 2007 (UTC)PS: Businesses like Google etc seem to be covered by Internet culture, and it might be nice to maintain a slightly more technical and organizational scope here.

Category:Generic top-level domains & Category:CENTR members probably need in. Is it normal to use bots to populate initially? Between those and Category:Internet standards & their daughter cats, that's already several hundred articles that fall under our purview but not many other technically focused groups. MrZaius^talk 15:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Notice of List articles

Page(s) related to this project have been created and/or added to one of the Wikipedia:Contents subpages (not by me).

• List of basic Internet topics
• List of basic telecommunication topics
• List of basic computer science topics
• List of basic information technology topics

This note is to let you know, so that experts in the field can expand them and check them for accuracy, and so that they can be added to any watchlists/tasklists, and have any appropriate project banners added, etc. Thanks. --Quiddity 20:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Navigational box

There is good information in the articles on the Internet, World Wide Web, and in related articles. Hard to peruse them all or understand what is there. I suggest that a navigational box is needed, but how to order (classify articles) it and what articles to include (and, much worse, not include!) is a real problem. Right now, a naive researcher (me, except I was trained in the industry) has to blunder about a lot of links, and see alsos to find information. Student7 (talk) 13:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

Update on The Internet Portal

• -- Update: Portal:Internet has recently become a Featured Portal. All of the articles at Portal:Internet in the "Selected article" section are of Good or Featured Quality Status. Thanks to the efforts of folks from this project, for churning out such great high-quality material! Keep up the great work getting articles to WP:GA and Featured Quality Status ! Cirt (talk) 16:56, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level. The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.

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Please leave a message with us if you have any queries regarding the introduction of the revised scheme. This scheme should allow the team to start producing offline selections for your project and the wider community within the next year. Thanks for using the Wikipedia 1.0 scheme! For the 1.0 Editorial Team, §hepBot (Disable) 21:41, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

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LastPass

This article was tagged for speedy deletion as spam, but since it gets a 5-star rating on Firefox's add-on list with 77 ratings, I wasn't willing to speedy it without further discussion. What do you guys think, is this an article you want in Wikipedia? - Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 18:56, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

I don't see why not, although it needs a rewrite. ffm 22:05, 4 March 2009 (UTC)

The 5 star rating only makes this article an advertisement for a GOOD product, but an advertisement stays an advertisement.--173.220.9.188 (talk) 02:31, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Article alerts

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If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the display=none parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

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Thanks. — Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 09:17, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Request for people who have copies of any of the following publications.

• Abbate, Janet. Inventing the Internet. Cambridge: MIT Press, 1999.
• Campbell-Kelly, Martin; Aspray, William. Computer: A History of the Information Machine. New York: BasicBooks, 1996.
• Graham, Ian S. The HTML Sourcebook: The Complete Guide to HTML. New York: John Wiley and Sons, 1995.
• Krol, Ed. Hitchhiker's Guide to the Internet, 1987.
• Krol, Ed. Whole Internet User's Guide and Catalog. O'Reilly & Associates, 1992.
• Scientific American Special Issue on Communications, Computers, and Networks, September, 1991.

These texts were used as references in the creation of the History of the Internet article. However, they were added to the article at a time when there was no accepted system of inline citation, and there is no link between the references and what they are cited to support. This leaves some parts of the article apparently uncited, but supposedly supported by these texts.

Can someone with these texts please read over the article, and identify the sections and statements that are supported by these texts.

Thanks in advance. --Barberio (talk) 20:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Suggestions for Guidelines

• move general tasks from To-do list box into Guidelines as bullet points --AlastairIrvine (talk) 07:34, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

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New article: Beyond the First Amendment

New article, created, at Beyond the First Amendment. Additional assistance in research would be appreciated, feel free to help out at the article's talk page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 21:59, 21 January 2011 (UTC)

New article: Net.wars

New article, created, at Net.wars. Additional assistance in research would be appreciated, feel free to help out at the article's talk page. Cheers, -- Cirt (talk) 21:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Link relations

I renamed the old Rel attribute article to Link relations and expanded it substantially. Needs some more work but its not entirely content free now... and expansion appreciated.. Justinc (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Noindex, questions about

Is the noindex tag required in userpage sandboxes?

Does the noindex tag really prevent Internet search engines from finding content in userpage sandboxes?

How many of your personal userpage sandboxes include the noindex tag? --Kenatipo ^speak! 21:46, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Sorry, this isn't the best place. Try Wikipedia talk:About the Sandbox or Wikipedia:Help desk. --Pnm (talk) 05:19, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, Pnm. I will go there and ask. I came here because this place came up in my search. --Kenatipo ^speak! 06:20, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

aXXo GA reassessment

One of the articles under this project, aXXo, is having its good article status reassessed, and may be delisted. Feel free to comment on the review at Talk:AXXo/GA2. Swarm ^X 20:58, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Article needing improvement: Metacrap

I stumbled upon metacrap the other day. This article badly needs improvement. The term apparently originates from Cory Doctorow's 2001 essay. The article itself has exactly one citation (to the essay itself, violating the independent clause of WP:RS and maybe WP:SPS), two inbound links (one from the Cory Doctorow article) and a {{notability}} template plopped onto it since 2007. I was almost going to submit it for AfD, but it seems that while the term has not reached popular usage there are at least multiple references to the term and essay by independent sources. I'm not sure if that's enough to pass WP:GNG, but I figured if anyone feels that strongly about it they can submit it for AfD themselves. With all due respect to {{sofixit}}, abstract self-referential 'meta' topics are not my forte. Given how stale the article is (revision statistics), I figured this might point some interested people to it and perhaps serve as a shot of epinephrine to restart its barely-beating heart. DubiousIrony ^yell 14:18, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Santorum (sexual neologism)

Santorum (sexual neologism)

This article has recently been expanded with additional sources and referencing improvements. There is also some ongoing discussion about that, at the article's talk page. If you are interested, please have a look at Santorum (sexual neologism) and the associated talk page discussion at Talk:Santorum (sexual neologism). Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 20:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)

Interactive tutorial help

Hi, I'm working on a project for an interactive tutorial for new editors and we're trying to mock-up the first units/levels (http://enwp.org/User:Ocaasi/The_Wikipedia_Game). I need a few good images of the Wikipedia interface, and some dialogue boxes and basic interface shots for the alpha version which will be done in Adobe Flash. Does anyone have basic photoshop skills and a few hours? Any help would be much appreciated. Cheers, User:Ocaasi ^c 00:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

I've created an article on Lulz Security

Lulz Security has been in the news so I created an article about them. It is currently up for speedy delete. I would love input on the article, and help if you think the topic is worth pursuing. Polyquest (talk) 00:48, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

No longer under speedy delete.Polyquest (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

Request for comment - Santorum (neologism)

• Santorum (neologism)

Request for Comment discussion started, please see Talk:Santorum_(neologism)#Proposal_to_rename.2C_redirect.2C_and_merge_content.

Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 14:25, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

Deep Web

Deep Web has been requested to be renamed, see Talk:Deep Web . 65.94.47.63 (talk) 10:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)

What is "cyberethics"?

The lead to cyberethics didn't define the subject, so I rewrote it. It's better than it was, but it still seems a bit off. Something's lacking. Please take a look. The Transhumanist 06:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)

Country codes licensed for commercial use

I'm querying whether the list of country codes licensed for commercial use should be in a subsection of Country code top-level domain, as it is now, or on a separate page. Please see the discussion topic on the relevant talk page and please add any comments there, not here. Thanks. Rubywine (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Further to this, if anyone is able to cast some light on the latest point raised in the discussion linked above, I would be grateful for your input. Apparently I have created an article with a misleading title, but the title that I should have used instead has not been made clear. Rubywine (talk) 02:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Archive Created

I moved most of the inactive discussion threads older than one year to /Archive 1, and added the archive box to the top of this page. Hopefully, this will help us keep this page fresh and more manageable for new team members. Please re-activate any archived discussion threads here as a new topic if you are interested in forwarding development of its related topic. Hcidem (talk) 15:19, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

please help with Stop Online Piracy Act page

Issues include but are not necessarily limited to:

• DMCA provisions keep getting removed as irrelevant
• no discussion of conflict with DNSSEC implementation
• DNS discussion incomplete, help with propagation requested
• article possibly should include discussion of ICANN/IANA control of internet

Elinruby (talk) 03:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Facepalm article for deletion

Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Facepalm (3rd nomination). — Cirt (talk) 21:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Internet category is cycled

Hi. Take part in this discussion please Category talk:Internet#Internet category is cycled. ~Нирваньчик~ ^⊤άλҟ 21:30, 26 November 2011 (UTC)

Opinions and help requested for article

Hi

There seems to be a stalemate in discussion (and possible COI issues) with the Tagged social media article. Any advice, contributions or general help from project internet editors would be greatly appreciated. Thanks NCSS (talk) 04:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)

Bufferbloat

Hi wikiproject, Bufferbloat is a fairly hot subject, and I would love it to have a decent article about it. What we currently have falls shy of WP:Brilliant prose. I can't really fix it myself at the moment. Things are a bit too technical for me to completely work out. I did some copyediting and tagging of dubious and unsourced statements, but I could use some more hands on it. What I would like in particular for now is to inline source all unsourced information, and to remove all false information. When that's fixed, we probably need to re-section, possibly expand and prune where needed. All help is welcome. Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 20:03, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

I reworked the article, splitting into sections (which might need more eyeballs), refs, exts, links etc etc and using the ACM ref more. I tagged some weaknesses at the top of the article. Widefox (talk) 17:24, 28 February 2012 (UTC)

If you have specific questions about bufferbloat, please drop me a line. The article certainly needs serious work, and there has been a lot of progress since the last time people worked on the article. Unfortunately, I don't have time to try to fix the article myself. JimGettys (talk) 01:25, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Internet Barnstar

I have designed a Internet Barnstar, would you guys be interested in this? Kusaga (talk) 22:09, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

Note that the barnstar is under discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikipedia Awards#Internet Barnstar. Would you like to use this as a Project Barnstar? Pine^talk 07:37, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

It's done, feel free to use it. Template:Internet barnstar. --e^xtra999 (talk) 14:51, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

Web Storage capitalization

Hi everyone, I recently moved Web Storage (capitalized) to Web storage (lower case), thinking it was a generic name of a software concept, but I got a message from MilkMiruku who thinks it is a proper name belonging to the W3C.[1] Did I just make an embarrassing mistake with my move? I'd like to hear the opinions of editors here. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius ^♫ 06:26, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Source on internet and social skills

Hey guys! See:

• Milian, Mark. "Study: Multitasking hinders youth social skills." CNN. Wednesday January 25, 2012.

WhisperToMe (talk) 04:00, 30 January 2012 (UTC)

The Cybersecurity Act of 2012

Where's the article? Here's the news stories. Thomas locator link. It is true that this is at least 3rd year Lieberman has introduced it and just got a few sponsors. CarolMooreDC 18:33, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

Someone started last week as Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act . CarolMooreDC 13:18, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Netscape pics

Several Netscape pictures have been nominated for deletion. You may be interested. See Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 March 17

65.92.181.184 (talk) 03:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

Need comment on e-mail ticketing system

Please comment on Email ticketing system and the article's future. Comment at Talk:Email ticketing system. Thanks, D O N D E groovily Talk to me 01:46, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Digital Identity

Hi everyone. I am aiming to improve the Digital Identity article, I think there are serious issues with the content in general terms, doesn't cover the wide range of meanings and studies related to the term, but I haven't found anyone who is more experienced with wikipedia or within social sciences to help me out. I would be doing an extensive scholarly research on the topic due to an educational assignment. I didn't get a response on the talk pages of the article and I would need experienced users to point me in the right direction, because the problems can't be solved with minor edits. It has been suggested by several people that the article might need a complete rewrite, since it is too technical and its focus is too narrow. Could you point me in the right direction? Bettinusz (talk) 10:16, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

I rewrote a few significant parts of the Digital identity article, I think it was hard to understand, overcomplicated. If you could give me some feedback on the writing, style, anything that would be great. I also added a few extra sections, because the article was only focusing on technical aspects, I thought that was too narrow for the subject. I will try and add some sociological perspectives as well. Thanks, Bettinusz (talk) 22:21, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Regulatory Differences for Internet connections

I was looking for information on the regulatory differences between a fixed or non-fixed wireline connection vs a celluar/ mobile connection after reading The New Digital Divide but I couldn't find anything anywhere. Do folks in this WikiProject know about this kind of thing? Am I overlooking an article? Thanks!Jriggsy (talk) 00:15, 5 April 2012 (UTC)

Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act

Please, help me to expand and improve the article. Thank you! --NaBUru38 (talk) 17:35, 6 April 2012 (UTC)

Merge input needed - Push email

Should Mobile email and Wireless email merge into Push email? Please comment at Talk:Push email#Merge discussion. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 04:14, 13 April 2012 (UTC)

Firefox article needs repair!

Hello WikiProject Internet! The Firefox article is really outdated and in need of repair. It would be great if we could put together a team to help maintain it - or at least bring it up to date. Thanks ҭᴙᴇᴡӌӌ 15:14, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Second Look

Can I get someone to get a second look on the draft that I am writing here? I have more sources about the group mainly about their match with the creater of minecraft whom it mentions one of their members by name. --SKATER ^{Is Back} 14:54, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

Possible FA

Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Everything That Happens Will Happen Today/archive4 I'm sorry to go stumping for this, but I've worked really hard on Everything That Happens Will Happen Today and I'd like someone to comment on the FAC so it can finally pass. Will someone please leave feedback there? Thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 10:16, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

FAR notice

I have nominated Search engine optimization for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 18:24, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

Facebook statistics

Can someone update the article, following the recent IPO of Facebook, which has increased the traffic. Some suggestions I would point:

i) Add a secondary source, rather than Socialbakers.com
ii) Increase the list to 100/150/200 countries
iii) Add three more columns, namely Sl no, penetration, change%
iv) Convert the external links in the stats into ref with cite templates
v) Expand the text
vi) Add more than one type of stats, if possible
vii) Represent some data in form of graphs/charts or a better world map
viii) Add better links in external links section
ix) Have updates for all countries at one time, not like as it is
ix) Rename to Statistics of Facebook

Anyone, please review this. By going around the topic, I also found an article unupdated for a long time, Facebook features. Thanks, extra999 (talk) 09:32, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Globalization

The article Globalization has undergone major re-structuring. WikiProject Internet members are invited to review and comment on the article and add relevant missing information or sections in which your project may have an interest. Also, you may be interested in reviewing the updated Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Globalization proposal for a new WikiProject. Regards, Meclee (talk) 15:08, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

I would like to bring your attention to this forum

Hey, guys. I hope I've come to the right place to discuss a possible HTML5 version of Wikipedia, given that most project members have background about this stuff.

As some users may know, HTML5 is a new version of the HyperText Markup Language designed with the DOM, AJAX, and competition with Adobe Flash in mind. Each time the development team has attempted to introduce HTML5 to the MediaWiki software, it broke several scripts and bots, so they dropped those changes. For more information about the HTML5 revolution, click here. To test whether your browser is compatible with HTML5, click here.

Here are some main points from the main discussion at WP Village Dump:

• Wikipedia pages should be divided into semantic elements that a regular viewer wouldn't care about, but that would make processing by AI simpler. Examples of such tags include article (for the body of an article), nav (for navigation elements and category links), and section (for sections of Wikipedia articles).
• Inline MathML could be used rather than PNG to display equations and formulae in articles, in order to save bandwidth and allow easier processing. For example, MathML equations could be copied and pasted into documents, in whole and in part, much more easily than PNG equations.
• Editors should be encouraged to use appropriate tags for emphasis, instead of just bold or italic. This is a W3C recommendation and, while not necessary, could be used to improve the machine-readability of featured articles. (Not everyone agreed to this, but it's worth discussing.)

There are also a few things I haven't discussed yet, such as Microdata and WYSIWYG editing. Any other ideas? Seriously, don't hesitate to propose or discuss them! 68.173.113.106 (talk) 21:18, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

Does Khaled Mardam-Bey desrve his own article?

Please participate in the following merge discussion. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 06:11, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

Ashton Kutcher on Twitter and Justin Bieber on Twitter as AFD

Ashton account has been relisted twice and needs consensus improvement. Bieber account is recently nominated and is yet to be relisted. Join in to discuss either. --George Ho (talk) 06:56, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

Red vs. Blue FAR

I have nominated Red vs. Blue for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. JJ98 (Talk / Contributions) 09:09, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Relative units in the context of responsive web design

There is currently a disagreement at Talk:Responsive web design#Verifiability, Relative Units, Pixels, and Propagation of Misinformation which members of this WikiProject may be interested in.

Yaris678 (talk) 11:42, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

• Three people have told the IP that pixels are absolute units, and presented references such as W3C and the UN, but the IP keeps reverting to "pixels are relative units". The IP is also continuously adding other opinionated rubbish (the worst examples are listed in the talk page) that is/are (naturally) not supported by any references. When asked to provide reputable references that support his opinions he links to his own blog :-( LittleBen (talk) 12:47, 25 September 2012 (UTC)

Yahoo! Meme

I have edited the Yahoo! Meme page and expanded upon it greatly. Please discuss.

Followmarko (talk) 21:24, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Is Prince a layout engine?

Hi! I suspected that the Prince/Prince XML addition to Template:Layout engine nomenclature was some kind of illicit marketing, since it is not used in any web browser, but instead some kind of expensive proprietary web-to-PDF converter. Now I wonder if the place of Prince XML in List of web browser engines is also unjustified, and mayhap also Template:Web browser engines? Rursus dixit. (^mbork³!) 19:03, 21 October 2012 (UTC)