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07:43, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

WikiProject Banners

Just thought I'd bring this to your attention: While a lot of the banners that have taskfroces assess the quality on the same scale as the parent project. Some are a bit more complex. For example Template:WikiProject Trains has a custom class mask for the parent. Some of the taskforces do not assess quality, some taskforces use the standard quaility scale, some use the extended scale and some use the same cuatom scale as the parent project. -- WOSlinker (talk) 21:14, 11 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, these will all be supported in the final module, whenever it's ready. I hadn't seen {{WikiProject Trains}} before - that's an interesting one. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:20, 12 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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It is transcluded by 1,100+ pages. Lower to semi-protection? --George Ho (talk) 07:08, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. In the future, WP:RFPP is probably a better place to ask. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:56, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lowercase sigmabot

Hy, Mr. Stradivarius. I saw that you have stopped lowercase sigmabot, the bot operated by Σ. I want to know why. You explained that the bot is edit warring itself in Turkey, but I do not see any edit warring from the bot. I hope you understand. Ping me if you have replied. I do not like watchlists. Yours sincerely, DEW. Adrenaline (Nahnah4) 09:12, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Nahnah4: Here are the edits where it was edit-warring with itself. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:00, 13 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
On a related note, exactly what implications does the new {{pp}} template have on how we apply protection templates? →Σσς. (Sigma) 04:30, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Σ: It doesn't mean we have to change anything. But if you wanted, you could tag pages exclusively with {{pp}} and not use any of the other protection templates. For some protection templates this will mean longer invocations, though. E.g. {{pp-move-vandalism}} would become {{pp|vandalism|action=move}}. The one existing protection template that cannot be produced with {{pp}} is {{pp-move-indef}} - we didn't implement it in the module as all it does is add categories. Also, you can now use {{pp}} as a direct replacement for {{pp-protected}}, as the latter now redirects to the former. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 05:38, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redirection of Template:Pp-protected

Was this the intended result of your edit? Mjroots (talk) 05:57, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Mjroots: Whoops, I forgot to check for double redirects, and there were quite a few. Fixed now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:05, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

edit request

Hi, I see you just made edit on Robin Williams. I negotiated acceptable language with admin John and received his 'thanks' for edit pm for my acceptance of his proposed language over 3 hours ago, but still no article action. Can you please make approved edit? It is already admin approved, just needs doing. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Robin_Williams#Protected_edit_request_on_14_August_2014 Thank you Paulscrawl (talk) 22:27, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Paulscrawl: I don't think that there's a clear consensus for your request yet. Allow a little more time for people to comment, and then use the {{edit protected}} template above your request to alert patrolling admins. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 22:35, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not asking for consensus on previously accepted content, but I might be asking for user ban - It was already in the article and only taken out by disingenuous edit of user who deleted content and added unrelated content of his own which later got deleted. See deletion of content with "Add details" edit summary Paulscrawl (talk) 22:45, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see anything block-worthy there, and if you want a block, you should go to WP:ANI rather than an individual admin's talk page. This needs to be decided by finding a consensus, not by blocks, though, in my opinion. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:24, 14 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Robin Williams

Can you please add this to robin williams page

The wife of Robin stated that the actor/comedian was sober at the time of death, but suffering from the early stages of Parkinson's disease, a progressive and debilitating neuromuscular condition — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oxo helen oxo (talk • contribs) 00:44, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Oxo helen oxo: Hi Helen! You need to make an edit request at Talk:Robin Williams before this can be added to the article. I imagine that editors are already talking about this over there, in fact, so you might want to check the rest of the talk page first. Good luck. :) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:42, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your answer to edit requests

I found out you, recently answer a lot of edit requests as "Not done for now" and let they edit the sandbox page, and then reactive the request. I think it is bad.S/s/a/z-1/2 (talk) 23:09, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssaz 12: Why do you think it's bad? The alternative is for me to write the code myself, which can sometimes be a lot of work. I will generally make trivial changes myself, but I don't think we should be equating "edit request" with "coding request". — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:13, 15 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RFC

An RFC on an article you recently edited is being conducted at Talk:Joni_Ernst#RfC: Can material that is critical to the subject be included in the article? - Cwobeel (talk) 03:27, 16 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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07:17, 18 August 2014 (UTC)

Edit Request: Catch shares discussion in "Criticism" section

Dear Mr. Stradivarius, Thank you for your advice related to my edit request on the EDF Talk page. I believe I have provide the information you requested, albeit a bit delayed. Would you be able to review the edit again? Thank you, Kent 21:47, 18 August 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kent Strauss (talk • contribs)

Zoe Quinn

I believe the sentence about Zoe Quinn being harassed on the Zoe Quinn page should include the word "allegedly", as there seems to be no evidence that she was harassed. The closest thing to evidence she provided was a screen cap of two mean spirited comments about her made by anonymous users on some message board. However, the comments were about her, but not directed at her. So, while not flattering, they do not qualify as "harassment." If I were to go on a message board and post that Bill Gates is a douche bag, you would not say that I was harassing Bill Gates. In order to harass Bill Gates, I would have to actually contact him and call him a douche bag. Simply stating my opinion that he's a douche bag on a forum not directed at him, and that he isn't required to read, does not constitute "harassment."

As for the harassing phone calls that Quinn claims to have received, I can find no evidence for this whatsoever other than her word for it. She may or may not have received harassing phone calls, but, unless there is proof that she did, it's important to clarify that this is only an allegation.

This is why I believe that the sentence on the Zoe Quinn page that reads "In attempting to publish the game through Steam's Greenlight service, Quinn was the target of harassment both online and through sexually explicit phone calls." should be changed to say "In attempting to publish the game through Steam's Greenlight service, Quinn was ALLEGEDLY the target of harassment both online and through sexually explicit phone calls." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Josephf5 (talk • contribs) 06:19, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Josephf5: There's already some talk about this at Talk:Zoe Quinn#"Alleged". You'll need to find a consensus there before the article can be changed - this message to me won't actually affect things much. And I recommend that you read Wikipedia:No original research first. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Occupy Toronto WP entry

Hello,

My name is Antonin and I am a bottom-liner with Occupy Toronto. I came across your name while reading the Talk page for Zoe Quinn. You seemed to know a lot about WP's protocols and standards.

I've been concerned for quite a while about the WP entry for Occupy Toronto and its accuracy. Just looking at the sources and citations, they don't seem to adhere to the type of standards you listed in the ZQ talk page. It's also missing tons of legit and verifiable sources like The Toronto Star, CBC, NOW Magazine, and many more.

I was wondering if at some point in the future (there's really no rush) you might help bring some depth and accuracy to the OT page.

I would of course be happy to help out but, full disclosure, I am a biased source. I lived at Occupy Toronto for 40 days and nights and I am still committed to the movement. If you Google "Antonin occupy toronto" you should get a pretty thorough idea of who I am and my level of involvement.

To be extra clear: I am not looking to make myself or anyone else look good. I would just like the page to be accurate and in keeping with Wikipedia's standards, for better or worse.

I can be reached at occupytofood@gmail.com. Thanks for your time.

Sincerely, Antonin Mongeau 216.155.145.67 (talk) 23:42, 19 August 2014 (UTC) Occupy Toronto[reply]

Hi Antonin! Sorry, but I don't really have an interest in the movement, and there are lots of things on Wikipedia that I don't have time to do. I don't mean to sound harsh, but I just don't have time to do all the things that I want to do on this site. You might have more luck if you ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Toronto or Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Canada, though. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:47, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
You might also direct your question to Wikipedia:WikiProject OWS.--Mark Miller (talk) 23:50, 19 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Three things

Hello again. My "things to ask Mr. Stradivarius" has risen to three, so I thought it was time to leave a message:

  1. Module:List/sandbox : I took a guess at how to add liststyle, itemstyle, etc as alternatives to list_style etc and it appears to've worked – if so, should making the same additions to the live version work without problem? (Changing names already in use may be a hassle, but I thought I may as well try to add and start using those already established by {{Infobox}}, {{Sidebar}}, etc.)
  2. Module:Parameter names example : If it's possible (and not too tricky) to do so, do you think it would be worth adding an option to present the code producing the example/demo beside the example/demo (in some kind of <code> or <pre> style)..? I'm wondering if it might, as I keep seeing the redundancy of e.g. code in a pre section followed immediately by the very same code used to call a template. I'd try to see if this could be done using wikicode/HTML, but there may be no point, either because it can't and/or the result might not translate to Lua and/or...
    (As there doesn't seem to be a template offering this already, perhaps it's something that's too self-referential to implement..?)
  3. What do you make of Template:Lua/sandbox (as appearing on Template:Lua/testcases)..? I'm also wondering if "Uses Lua" might be a more futureproof template name.

Regards, Sardanaphalus (talk) 17:49, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Sardanaphalus: Thanks for the ping. I'll take those in order:
  1. Nah, we only need one name for those params. Are you telling me that I did all that parameter-changing for nothing? :) Also, this should be talked about on Module talk:List so that other editors will see it.
  2. This would be possible, but I think the order of the parameters might get jumbled up. I'll have a look at it.
  3. I think you're making this too complicated. Just a list of modules would be fine. This is another thing that should probably go on the template talk page, in my opinion.
Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 12:48, 28 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for your replies and<aside>despite what looked like a lot of activity here on your talkpage</aside> prompt work on the {{Pnex}} module. I've seen the posts you've also made at Template talk:Parameter names example, so will respond there. (In a nutshell: Looks promising and I hope it'll prove possible to tailor the output without difficulty.)
I'll also respond to 1. and 3. above by starting threads on the corresponding talkpages (as you suggest). Just for the record, I think the parameter-changing work was<aside>is</aside> certainly worthwhile as (if I remember correctly) it disambiguated the numbering – I just wish it'd occurred to me then to suggest making the names consistent with the Navbox/Infobox/etc pattern. Thanks again, Sardanaphalus (talk) 23:18, 30 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

3RR

Actually, that's 3 reverts, I should stop, but I'm not over. Crisis.EXE 04:40, 21 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed you removed a section on Talk:Zoe Quinn under WP:BLPTALK. However, BLPTALK specifically excludes content that is relating to content choices. Contentious material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced and not related to making content choices should be removed, deleted, or oversighted, as appropriate. Please consider looking over the talk page post and consider whether it was about content choices. If not, then I endorse the removal. If it is, then I would support its addendum back on the talk page. Tutelary (talk) 20:26, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It's interesting that BLPTALK includes "and not related to making content choices", but you must be reading it wrongly, or the the wording must be incorrect. Do you really think it would be ok for someone to post "I support adding a section describing how this person eats babies" at a talk page? And it could not be removed because it was about "making content choices"? Johnuniq (talk) 23:58, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I think this is badly worded in the BLP policy. When I look at the wording as it was originally added, it seems to directly contradict the preceding paragraph. I doubt that an exception for material related to content choices was intended there, and I've started a discussion on the policy talk page to clarify this. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:55, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed an example (diff)—is this removable per BLPTALK? Johnuniq (talk) 00:16, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I am sorry for the shitstorm that occured on the Zoe Quinn talk page.

Your's truly- 24.170.47.108 (talk) 09:23, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please help on Opera Pics

Unfortunately I am heavily involved in some sort of edit war concerning the illustration of several Opera articles. Personally I feel persecuted by User:Michael Bednarek and I feel the urge to accuse him of vandalism because when ever I find a proper image showing an Opera scene he replaces it with architecture or the composer declaring that this is standard procedure. I am very desperate now (and upset). I want to use dispute resolution, but - having never done this and english not being my mother tongue - I don't know how to do it. He is currently destroying all my work in Ariadne auf Naxos, Der Rosenkavalier, Elektra and Salome. And I feel so humiliated. Please help.--Meister und Margarita (talk) 14:43, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the discussion is going on in Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera, some on my talk-page, some on the talk-pages of the different operas. The problem is that this user is blocking also some of my work in German WP. So he reverted my edit in Die Soldaten (this is my version: [22]) is such a way, that the pic is now hidden somewhere below (this is his version: [23]). Should I, can I accuse this user of vandalism in what he did to my work within the last ten or fifteen minutes? I don't know what to do, I don't want to be accused of vandalism - as they already did in the Project Opera …. He also redid my work at L'Africaine and at The Magic Flute's Second Part.--Meister und Margarita (talk) 15:01, 23 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Meister und Margarita: I haven't looked into this in detail, but it sounds like this isn't vandalism - rather, WikiProject Opera seems to have worked out a consensus for what opera articles should look like, and your edits seem to go against that consensus. I might have the details wrong, but at the very least it's clear that no-one's edits here are vandalism. Now, a consensus doesn't have to last forever - it is always subject to refinement or change through reasoned discussion. First I recommend calmly raising the issues you are concerned about on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Opera, and if that discussion doesn't find a resolution you are happy with, I recommend filing a case at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. They will help you with any extra steps that may need to be taken. Hope this helps — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:20, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
{{|}}. Thanks for your reply. I already visited Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard, there it said: If you need a helping hand just ask a volunteer, who will assist you. You are listed as one of the volunteers and so I came to you. Regarding the consensus: There is new consensus that the composer boxes be moved to the bottom of the page = exactly what I did. Nevertheless, Mr. M.B. is still insisting on the old Consensus and undoing all my work. IMHO it's now him standing up against the will of the majority. This is my complaint.--Meister und Margarita (talk) 07:37, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Meister und Margarita: Yes, this is me giving you the helping hand right here. :) I'm afraid my powers as a volunteer at DRN are quite limited (and I haven't actually handled any cases there in quite some time). I can't, for instance, tell anyone to write the articles in a certain way. All I can help you to do is to find a consensus. And from your description here, it sounds like rather than an "old" consensus and a "new" consensus, and various people following each, what you actually have is "no consensus". And mediating a dispute which doesn't yet have a consensus is out of "helping hand" territory and into dispute resolution territory. If you've already discussed this on a talk page and haven't reached a satisfactory conclusion, then a full-blown case at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard is the way to go. But beware - they do require a talk page discussion, so you can't skip that step. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 13:06, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the explanation and your understanding.--Meister und Margarita (talk) 13:48, 24 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Conflict has been resolved with the help of Pigsonthewing. Regards, --Meister und Margarita (talk) 18:11, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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zoe quinn

Hello, I am very upset that the Zoe Quinn ewiki page isn't even mentioning the [redacted] saga, I have seen through the 5,000 word post (the zoepost) the [redacted] did happen, and I for one would want gaming history to know of this. I'm asking you for I saw you were the last to edit it and it been locked from the public from adding any amount of truth. I would like to see the proof within thezoepost be shown and taken as facts, with screen shots and all. I am unable to link them. For I'm stuck on my cell phone, but this is a matter I follow closely and want what I think is the best soure of information to have all the facts presented. Thank you for your time

This has all been said on Talk:Zoe Quinn already, but our biographies of living persons policy is very strict about the kind of material that we can add to the article, which is why the controversy hasn't been mentioned in the article. See here for the latest. Also, you need to be careful about what facts you include in your talk page posts, due to the section about talk pages in the biographies of living persons policy. I've redacted a couple of things in your post here. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 06:34, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Appeal

My topic ban is about to expire. How would I go about making the appeal to have it lifted? Reece Leonard (talk) 17:30, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Reece Leonard: Your topic ban is indefinite, so it doesn't actually expire. After September 12, though, you can appeal to have it lifted. To appeal it, just start a new thread at WP:AN stating your case; if the discussion ends with a consensus to lift the ban, then it will be lifted. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the help and your patience throughout this mess. Reece Leonard (talk) 23:25, 25 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Editor Bias

Hello. I wanted to reach out and ask a question about the Zoe Quinn quagmire. I wanted to asked you spefically because you seem to be active there and trying to keep it objective and I might have evidence that some of the individuals participating in the conversations on the talk page have a personal tie to the subject. If I did, how would I go about addressing that? ~~Ron--70.185.196.205 (talk) 05:38, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The place to do that is WP:COIN. However, you should try and discuss this with the users concerned first, as COIN isn't meant as a first resort. Also, make sure that you read the conflicts of interest guideline, and above all, make sure that you don't violate the "outing" policy. The outing policy takes precedence over the conflict of interest guidelines. And it will probably help your case if you register an account. Unfortunately, due to various problems with sockpuppetry and throw-away accounts used for undisclosed paid editing, etc., many established users are more likely to trust users with a few hundred edits under their belts than they are new and unregistered users. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 07:08, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for the help. ~~Ron --70.185.196.205 (talk) 02:01, 27 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request for a Semi protection

Hi, can you add a semi Protection for the page Stateless nation to reduce vandalism. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vatasura (talk • contribs) 18:45, 26 August 2014‎ (UTC)[reply]

Hi Vatasura. There haven't been any vandalistic edits since the last protection expired, so it doesn't look like it is necessary to protect the page just now. If it becomes necessary in the future, you can leave a request at WP:RFPP. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 21:49, 26 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Nabih Berri

Moved to Talk:Nabih Berri § WikiLeaks and the corruption section
 – — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 03:05, 31 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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How are we supposed to discuss content?

If we can't discuss it on the talk? The content you reverted is directly related to making content choices, and you should not remove it. I'm not going to revert you again but am going to ask that you self revert. It's impossible to reach a consensus when any attempt to do so would be shut down. Tutelary (talk) 00:00, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those were some pretty serious allegations, and the sourcing was dubious (Reddit and Talking Ship in particular). We can discuss claims that appear in reliable sources, but we can't repeat poorly sourced, problematic allegations. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 00:16, 1 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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07:49, 1 September 2014 (UTC)

DYK for Depression Quest

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request to close the discussion of the RfC

Hello Stradivarius,

I let a message/question for you in Talk:War_of_the_Pacific#Request_to_close_the_discussion_of_the_RfC. --Keysanger (Talk) 04:24, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Re Nabih Berri

Hello,

I have replied to you on the article's talk page. I hope the changes could be implemented soon and the article protected for a lengthier period.

Thank you, Callsfortruth (talk) 18:30, 2 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mason Bendewald Page Deletion Follow Up

Hi Mr. Stradivarius,

This is a follow up to the talk message left on 21:58, 5 June 2014 (UTC), Titled Mason Bendewald Page Deletion

I'm requesting to reinstate Mason Bendewald's wikipedia page under the following wikipedia guidelines Nobility:People, Creative Professionals, 3. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work, or collective body of work, that has been the subject of an independent book or feature-length film, or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.

Mason Bendewald Wikipedia Page [[47]]

It is well-known that Mason Bendewald played a major role in the creation of P90X as the director of this project. His name is listed on back of the box cover as director and see below for links to supporting sources. [1]

Supporting Source:

[2][3][4][5] [6][7]

It is also well-known that Mason Bendewald is the Chief Production Officer at DailyBurn and has played a major role in directing their fitness videos. See below for supporting sources.

[8][9][10]Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page).

It is also well-known that Mason Bendewald played a major role by creating the Reject Film Festival in Philadelphia, PA. See below for supporting sources.

[11][12][13][14]

If I need to redraft this page, I can do that, I appreciate your expertise and knowledge of wikipedia.

Johnnyoro (talk) 19:24, 2 September 2014 (UTC)Johnnyoro[reply]

  1. ^ https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5079737/P90X_Box.jpg
  2. ^ http://www.carldaikeler.com/2007/08/power-blast-and-more/
  3. ^ http://xtremefitness.wordpress.com/the-p90x-experts/
  4. ^ http://www.howlifeworks.com/health_beauty/How_to_Get_a_Personal_Fitness_Trainer__Nutritionist_for_10_a_Month_941
  5. ^ http://tylerrobbinsfitness.com/history-of-p90x/
  6. ^ http://www.nexgenhptc.com/#!p90x/c8lq
  7. ^ http://soulfitnessclub.com/fitness_group_exercise.html
  8. ^ http://www.cultofmac.com/286331/how-to-compete-youtube/
  9. ^ http://www.thedailymeal.com/10-surprising-empty-calorie-drinks-you-should-avoid
  10. ^ http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-att-mobile-app-keeps-on-the-go-businesses-connected-2013-03-13
  11. ^ http://variety.com/1998/scene/vpage/indie-rejects-welcome-1117479193/
  12. ^ http://articles.mcall.com/1998-10-14/features/3230280_1_film-festivals-independent-film-festival-circuit
  13. ^ http://articles.philly.com/1998-10-16/news/25761908_1_mason-bendewald-rejection-film-fest
  14. ^ http://www.citypaper.net/articles/102397/pick.reject.shtml
@Johnnyoro: Hi there. It looks like some of those sources can be used, e.g. the ones about the Reject film festival. However, a lot of them don't pass our guidelines for identifying reliable sources, so make sure you read it before you try and create the article. I think the best idea would be to submit your article through Articles for Creation, as then it will be reviewed before being made live, and will be less likely to be deleted. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:51, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Request

Hi Stradivarius, I've pinged you 2 times at Template talk:Lang-ka. Can you please make changes? Jaqeli 15:30, 3 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:38, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Hello again Stradivarius, please check again the talk page of Lang-ka. Thanks. Jaqeli 23:29, 7 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Please see Lang-ka again. Thanks. Jaqeli 18:52, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So now there are credible sources talking on the Gamergate/Zoe Quinn matter

In the last 24 hours there have been several articles on the controversy http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2014/09/04/gamergate-a-closer-look-at-the-controversy-sweeping-video-games/ http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/bitwise/2014/09/gamergate_explodes_gaming_journalists_declare_the_gamers_are_over_but_they.html http://stream.aljazeera.com/story/201409032102-0024126

In it, it cites there was a censorship controversy in Reddit and "perceived radio silence on the part of the press" which "led to early grumblings of ‘censorship’ among gamers crying foul play". An alleged DMCA takedown on YouTube by people involved in the controversy (don't want to cite names since, as I said it's alleged. DDOS attacks on sites against their "game jam" (The Fine Young Capitalists) in itself a feminist game jam.

Please try to be neutral about the subject, I'm not in favor of attacking Zoe Quinn, just include facts about the CONTROVERSY of gaming journalism, which her game is in the center of. At least there should be mentioning of it. Also where would I go into discussing the blocked talk page of her article? And if this is libel against living persons, this isn't attacking her, it's not talking about her personal life. Just the controversy surrounding her, aside a lot of different people and sites 200.59.78.239 (talk) 21:45, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there. This should probably go on Talk:Zoe Quinn. There's not much I can do about it - there needs to be a consensus there to add material before any edits can be made. As that page is semi-protected, you will need to ask at WP:RFED so that someone can copy your comments across for you. Alternatively, you can register an account, and then you will be edit the talk page after you are autoconfirmed. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 23:19, 4 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe I'm incredibly stupid or blind and just can't find where I'm supposed to click, but even the talk page seems to have been locked. Could you look into it? I don't know who else to contact. I was able to post there before, and now not. Willhesucceed (talk) 11:46, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]
@Willhesucceed: You need to make three more edits, and then you will be autoconfirmed, and will be able to edit the talk page. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 14:58, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please comment on Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Notability of Youtubers

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Template:Update-small

Please consider removing the page protection for Template:Update-small (protection log). It was protected due to being "highly visable" yet only has 14 transclusions. Not a major issue, but I do thank you for looking into this. Senator2029 “Talk” 01:26, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Done. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 01:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

getArgs

Can you look at gerrit:158323 and make sure you're okay with the differences between Module:Arguments and it? I mentioned the major breaking changes at Module talk:Arguments#Integrating with Lua. (I'm at a loss as to why my ping there didn't work.) Jackmcbarn (talk) 16:00, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Jackmcbarn: I got the ping, I just didn't have time to look at the code when I got it. I've made some comments on Gerrit now. — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:38, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

RE:Depression quest

The sources i have issues with are the journalistic sites, There has been a recent outcry over the integrity of these sites. I'll try to find a source that documents the outcry (I have seen the source somewhere) but the general consensus among the gaming community is that quite a few gaming sites have little ethics. Retartist (talk) 23:48, 5 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

We don't determine reliability of a source based on another source's say-so. Instead, we use the rules at WP:RS, and have a discussion at WP:RSN if we can't agree how to interpret WP:RS in respect to a given source. (Also, this discussion would probably be more visible at Talk:Zoe Quinn, not here.) — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:48, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 03 September 2014

concerning war of the pacific

I noticed that you refused to author a change to this article despite the fact a RFC section was conducted with the majority of the contributors were in favour of a change. I know the RFC is very very long with the main instigators being Keysanger and Eddy. However if you look at the contributions of user User:Eduardo Eddy Ramirez you will notice that this user is merely a single purpose account which attacks Keysanger on the article. That’s all this account has done and it’s possible that this user might be a sock-puppet. Furthermore the contiguous paragraph which the RFC aims to change uses a citation that links to a Biography of a famous Chilean Romance novelist which by no means is a history book or a valid source for this article. However User:Darkness Shines uses a large chunk of the RFC to defend this citation as legitimate. With the information I have given you I would very much like for you to change your view on this issue or even refer this matter to another administrator. Furthermore please look into the actions of user User:Eduardo Eddy Ramirez. I will not name the editor but user Eddy resembles a current editor which has been topic banned indefinitely on Latin American history in addition considers Darkness Shines a "friend".202.67.124.213 (talk) 10:12, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Nabih Berri

hi

modification you made to the article Nabih Berri are being reverted by the user callsfortruth, obviously changes conducted by this user are a clear violation of BLP rules and show a case of vandalism

thank you for reading

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