Talk:Madonna

Guinness World Records

http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/8000/best-selling-female-recording-artist Guinness World Records is explain: Madonna has sold more than 300 million albums. But you don't accept. Why? Guinness World Records is a reliable and official source. I writing this on Madonna(entertainer) but you to remove. Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 15:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I will let IndianBio answer this since he is the one who reverted. Snuggums (talk / edits) 15:34, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I'll jump in. Guinness is already cited later in the article, so we don't need to cite again in the intro. That leaves a word choice issue of whether she's sold albums or records. —C.Fred (talk) 17:01, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

I believe that when they said "albums", it actually means the overal recordings. Many people outside music industry are confused with the term "albums" or "records". The same article also cites Mariah Carey and Celine Dion at 200 million "albums", which are actually "records". The missinterpretation of the word "albums" and "records" is often disscussed at Talk:List of best-selling music artists. Aditionally, our previous discussions here have reached consensus that she sold 300 million records. FYI, official worldwide music industry source is the IFPI, which estimated Madonna's album sales at 200 million units as of the Confessions on a Dance Floor era. So, I don't think she sold another 100 million with Hard Candy, MDNA, Celebration or her past catalogs. Bluesatellite (talk) 22:52, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

When was the most recent discussion on albums vs. records? Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:14, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Just search the archive of Talk:List of best-selling music artists :p Bluesatellite (talk) 23:24, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Not trying to WP:SYNTHESIS, let's analyze Madonna's album sales based on various sources (see Madonna albums discography or their respective album articles):

• Madonna (10 million)
• Like a Virgin (21 million)
• True Blue (25 million)
• Who's That Girl (5 million)
• You Can Dance (5 million)
• Like a Prayer (15 million)
• I'm Breathless (7 million)
• The Immaculate Collection (30 million)
• Erotica (5 million)
• Bedtime Stories (7 million)
• Something to Remember (10 million)
• Evita (11 million)
• Ray of Light (16 million)
• Music (15 million)
• GHV2 (7 million)
• American Life (4 million)
• Confessions on a Dance Floor (12 million)
• Hard Candy (4 million)
• Celebration (4 million)
• MDNA (2 million)

Total:215 million albums. Some of these sales estimations (such as Music and Confessions) are already inflated enough. Even if we counted all her minor releases' sales (EP, remix, boxsets) are as high as 5 million, her album sales would be roughly 220 million, which are still far away from 300 million. Bluesatellite (talk) 23:25, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Navyiconer I think you have your answer now. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:33, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

Madonna 10 million Like A Virgin 21 million True Blue 25 million Like A Prayer 15 million Erotica 6 million Bedtime Stories 7 million Ray of Light 20 million Music 15 million American Life 5 million Confessions On A Dance Floor 12 million Hard Candy 4 million MDNA 2 million Who's That Girl 5 million I'm Breathless 7 million Evita 11 million You Can Dance 5 million The Immaculate Collection 30 million Something To Remember 10 million GHV2 7 million Celebration 4 million The Confessions Tour +1 million TOTAL= 222 million (only 21 albums studio, live only 1 album, compilation and soundtracks albums) Madonna's albums = 60 albums (studio albums 12, live albums 4, Compilation albums 6, EPs 11, soundtracks 3, remix 3, box sets 21) 21 albums = 222 million 39 albums=78 million TOTAL = 300 million albums sold — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 11:40, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

and okey Madonna has sold 222 million albums. Madonna has sold 78 million singles? no this is impossible Madonna is the most succesful single artist. Source: meditraffic http://www.mediatraffic.de/top-track-achievements.htm Be logical. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 11:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Mediatraffic is VERY unreliable. Snuggums (talk / edits) 12:47, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Why? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Navyiconer (talk • contribs) 14:00, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Because they don't have any concrete methodology and they base all of this on their guesswork. You have got your answer countless times that Madonna has not sold 300 million albums. Now please stop bothering the article. Wikipedia goes by consensus and it states clerly amongst other users that the 300 million album sales claim is grossly inflated. —Indian:BIO · ^{[ ChitChat ]} 17:07, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

While it's very unlikely Madonna's album sales stand at 300 million, it is safe to say her total record sales would be over 300 million. She is credited with 115 million single sales by 2008 (So they are probably higher now) and let's say approx. 200 million album sales which brings her overall record sales to more than 300 million — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.197.2 (talk) 18:36, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

One of the '25 female's who changed the face of feminism'

Harpers Bazaar magazine made a list of 25 female's who 'changed the face of feminism' and Madonna was included in it. Suggesting that a brief mention of this should be added to her 2013- present section? or the Legacy?

http://www.harpersbazaar.com/culture/features/famous-feminists-throughout-history?src=spr_FBPAGE&spr_id=1447_97840120#slide-17 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.197.2 (talk) 18:40, 11 October 2014 (UTC)

Article name

How come "(entertainer)" and not "(musician)"?

This seems very weird and disrespecting. 5.102.234.238 (talk) 09:44, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Quite. Please see Talk:Madonna_(entertainer)/Archive_18 to see the discussion. --Richhoncho (talk) 10:04, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Disrespecting!? Not at all. If disrespectful, it would've gone against NPOV policies. "Entertainer" is used as it is a more broad term that encompasses all her career endeavors, and singing is certainly not the only thing she's known for. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:40, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Interview Magazine- impact & Rebel Heart Leak

With Madonna covering the December edition of Interview Magazine she caused controversy around the globe for pictures with showed her exposing her breasts. Such controversy has resulted in Madonna landing front page headline's on numerous newspapers. Furthermore, she has been applauded for what is seen as 'Triumph for women her age' & breaking the social norms.

Additionally, in late November 2014 two of her new demo's for songs believed to be called "Rebel Heart" & "Wash All Over Me" have been leaked, or at east surfaced, on to the internet. This too has been widely reported and surely should be mentioned under the upcoming album section of the wiki page???

The richest recording artist in the world...

Madonna has been named as The World’s Richest Recording Artist by Wealth-X. According the the site Madonna has a net worth of $800 million, $140 ahead of Paul Mcartney who is in second place.

This should be used to update her Net worth statistics

& also a mention of her as The World’s Richest Recording Artist according to Wealth-x in the 2013- section? 

http://www.wealthx.com/articles/2014/wealth-x-reveals-the-worlds-richest-recording-artists/

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/6334796/madonna-paul-mccartney-worlds-richest-list — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.206.43.247 (talk) 19:49, 2 December 2014 (UTC)