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August 8

Including computer output in a page

Hi. Someone has suggested including a sample computer program output on a page (Diehard randomness test). It directly relates to the page topic as it would be an example of that tool's usage. I second the call. Thing is, the output is approx. 20 KBytes, and you really need all of it to get a proper picture. What can be done please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cossoft (talk • contribs) 02:38, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I can't think of any legitimate reason why an encyclopaedic article would need to include 'sample computer program output' on such a scale. Instead it needs to summarise what reliable sources have to say about the properties of such output. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:00, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Just a guess that they are referring to the last comment at Talk:Diehard tests, now two years old, and the {{Expand section}} in its article, four years old. ―Mandruss ☎ 05:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I was trying to figure out what the question referred to, and that seems to be the only relevant article. If so, I would note that it lacks any significant secondary sourcing to establish that the subject even meets our notability guidelines - it cites nothing but a link to the tests themselves, a link to an alternative set of tests, and a 1953 article by Alfréd Rényi which clearly cannot be about software written in 1995. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see that you added the notability template. We call this the Help Desk Backfire Effect. ;) ―Mandruss ☎ 13:20, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Listed buildings in Birmingham

Please help with Listed buildings in Birmingham I couldn't get the table right. South Birmingham OK (talk) 11:16, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Before my wife can edit this page - why are there "pending edits"? Confused and we need an explanation please, Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 05:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:Pending changes. Rojomoke (talk) 05:46, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wildlife, fauna, flora

These areas are currently a mess in Wikipedia. There is a huge inconsistency. For Canada, there are 3 separate articles on Wildlife of Canada, Fauna of Canada, and Flora of Canada. For United States, there are Fauna of the United States and Flora of the United States, but Wildlife of the United States redirects to Fauna of the United States. Fauna of China redirects to Wildlife of China. Fauna of Cyprus redirects to Wildlife of Cyprus. Wildlife of Indonesia redirects to Indonesia and so on... While some countries have fauna and wildlife as different articles. And some countries have fauna redirects to wildlife while others have wildlife redirects to fauna. And some countries do not have any redirect involving those articles at all. This is way too confusing. I see no reason for those redirects, and the redirects are very inconsistent themselves anyway. 14.169.206.102 (talk) 07:16, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia, a project with no overall management structure – and probably the better for it, all things considered. Maproom (talk) 07:37, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I was suggesting to delete those redirects. It is a simple way to fix the inconsistency. If the articles have not been created then so be it. I see no reason to hide the lack of articles in Wikipedia behind those redirects. Let all be real here. Lastly, another benefit of that is if someone (any reader, which is a lot!) found a page without any information in it then there is a chance he/she may create it. Most readers have no knowledge of the inner-working of Wikipedia, so they would assume that the redirect (potential article) co-exists with another article somehow. That would kill the needs for article creation even if they wanted to create one. The way things are right now is that a bunch of "potential" articles are in disguise as redirects, which would hinder article creation and improvement of Wikipedia as a whole. This is utterly stupid. Any argument saying redirects serve to help readers point to the right direction is irrelevant (the readers can search up the information themselves without the redirects), and the minimal benefit of that is outweighed by the benefit of article creation opportunities. To sum it up, the problems of this are: messy inconsistency, and hindrance of article creation and improvement of Wikipedia as a whole. 14.169.206.102 (talk) 08:41, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I think the better place for it is Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab), and I have transferred the problem to over there. Anyone who is interested to the following-up discussion is welcomed to go over there. Hopefully, this would improve Wikipedia somehow. 14.169.206.102 (talk) 09:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

User Page

Can someone fix the formatting of the committed identity box on my user page so the box is just around the text and not on the whole background of the page? Thanks The Editor of All Things Wikipedia ^《Talk》 08:08, 8 August 2015 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Editor of All Things Wikipedia (talk • contribs) [reply]

@The Editor of All Things Wikipedia:

Fixed - See Template:Clear - NQ (talk) 08:57, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

thanks so much! NQ — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Editor of All Things Wikipedia (talk • contribs) 09:03, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

James William Middleton

The "Business" section of this page seems to have been vandalised with a whole lot of "citation needed" when in fact the articles have all of the references in them. This vandalism is also evident on the "Donna Air" page - all of the references have the information presented clearly in them. There is no need for all of the citation captions. Please amend if you are able. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 10:07, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I see no vandalism. If the statements can't be supported by citations, they should be deleted. Maproom (talk) 10:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Maproom, to be fair, almost all of those statements are supported by sources already cited in the same paragraph, although not in the same sentence. I don't think this was vandalism, but i do think that the placement of the {{cn}} tags was over-zealous. I have edited to make the citations a bit clearer, and remove most of the CN tags. The bit about Middleton's companies having won awards i have left tagged. While this is mentioned briefly in one of the cited sources, that source is an interview, and so this amounts to a WP:PRIMARY claim. There really should be an independent source for such a statement, and i am confident one can be found. OP, note that this is all just normal editing, which you or anyone else could have done. It didn't require any special permissions. DES ^(talk) 10:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Heart Catholic High School, Newcastle Upon Tyne

I meant to say that Sacred Heart Catholic High School, Newcastle upon Tyne was the page I needed help with earlier (Not the Donna Air page) that CERTAINLY has an over zealous use of "citations needed". As far as we can see, all of the information is already in the references. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 12:13, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the info was already in the references, but much is, as far as i can see, not there. I have removed the superfluous CN tags. However, ALL of the current references are to the school's own website, or to the sites of sponsoring or partner organizations. There are no independent sources cited. Articles get deleted for not having independent sources to demonstrate their notability. If you can supply such independent sources, please do so. DES ^(talk) 14:48, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Newcastle Local Authority website and the Ofsted Report would be useful sources to add. Dbfirs 20:11, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Comparison of DNS blacklists article completeness

Just came across your article Comparison of DNS blacklists

At Micronica we have been operating since 2005, yes 10 years, a free publically open and readable downloadable IP Address and Domain Name blacklist called AntiSpam! whioch is updated several times a day.

This DNS Blacklist is somewhat unusual compared to other Blacklists as its freely readable not secret and each offending spam source incident is notified individually to the Domain Name owner and IP Address Owner responsible to make them aware of the incident and their spam offence. The blacklist is in plain text and structured to be compatible with the popular sendmail and and compatible with most other email systems.

Information: http://micronica.com.au/spam Continuously updated Blacklist: http://micronica.com.au/support/spam2.txt

So i hope you might add the Micronica Blacklist to your article for everyones benefit. And in the good ongoing fight against the biggest problem on the internet...Spam, Scams and Viruses. Regards Edward Jozis Technical Support Micronica 8/8/15 123.243.51.27 (talk) 15:14, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Edward. If there are independent reliable published sources which discuss Micronica, then it may be added to the article, but you should not do it, because of your conflict of interest. If you can find such sources (they must be truly independent of Micronica, not just based on press releases or interviews, and need to be more than just mentions in a list) then you are welcome to post your suggested changes, with references, on the talk page Talk:Comparison of DNS blacklists. Since there is no recent traffic on that talk page, you might add {{request edit}} to your suggestion, to bring it to people's notice. --ColinFine (talk) 16:48, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How do you start to write an article?

Ive been trying to figure out how to create an article. I know how to submit one.67.4.162.72 (talk) 17:17, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest reading Your First Article and The Golden Rule. Then make sure you have found reliable sources to work from, including independent sources, and make use of the article wizard which will help you get started. DES ^(talk) 17:25, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Major change of article

Hi don't you think there should be some change of laws about editing articles? Many of the articles of Wikipedia were originally good but they have been degraded into bad articles.For example see these articles : Franklin Roosevelt , American Poetry , Jurassic Park (Film).Well the editors who have changed them may be don't possess the knowledge or capability to write articles on wikipedia . Now the law is you have to take permission from them to correct them.But they will not give the permission to change them.This is why there has been some stagnancy in Wikipedia and it has become impossible to improve the articles.I think you should give some freedom to the editors to change the articles : even to do major changes of the articles,or to completely rewrite the articles or to restore some old versions of the articles.I think you should give complete freedom to the editors to change all the Class-B or Class-C articles until they reach the best level.Otherwise it cannot go along like this.Arman ad60 (talk) 18:53, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Any editor can change any article at any time with the intent of improving it. But then any other editor can undo the change. For major changes to major articles, representing the work of dozens or hundreds of editors, over a course of years in some cases, it is a good idea to discuss the changes first and try to obtain consensus. Failing that, if a major change is reverted (undone) then the editor who made it should discuss the matter, not simply reapply the change to which another editor objected, as per bold, revert, discuss. If agreement cannot be found easily on the talk page of the article, we have several methods of dispute resolution available.

I gather you were frustrated that your changes at History of Islam did not stick. You got good advice on your talk page to try making incremental changes. After all, there is only one article, and every interested editor can't decide separately how it should be. indeed as per WP:OWN no one editor can make that decision, only the consensus of interested editors can. DES ^(talk) 19:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Arman ad60, "the law is" certainly not "you have to take permission from them to correct them. The policy is Edit boldly, Revert if you think an edit it not an improvement, and Discuss it if you disagree. --ColinFine (talk) 20:04, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

I HAVE TRIED EVERYTHING TO EDIT ONE OF YOUR RIDICULOUS ENTRIES, AND YOUR HELP PAGE IS NOTHING OF THE GODDAMNED SORT, AND THIS IS SUCH A CLUSTERFUCK, I CAN SEE WHY YOU'RE NOT CONSIDERED A CREDIBLE SOURCE FOR ANYTHING, BECAUSE IF ANYONE ATTEMPTS TO PUT ANYTHING CREDIBLE AND NOT ONE-SIDED, THE PAGE IS LESS THAN SELF-EXPLANATORY, YOUR 'HELP' IS FUCKING WORTHLESS. I HAVE TRIED TO JUST GET RID OF MY ACCOUNT HERE, BUT YOU FUCKERS MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE!!!! YOU MAKE THIS WHOLE FUCKING SITE IMPOSSIBLE! GO FUCK YOURSELVES, YOU WORTHLESS PIECES OF SHIT! MvskokeWoman (talk) 18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC) 18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)18:54, 8 August 2015 (UTC)~~ HOW MANY OF THESE FUCKING TILDE FUCKERS YOU WANT?[reply]

MvskokeWoman, I am sorry you were frustrated, but shouting at those trying to help doesn't really improve matters. I have fixed the referencing issues on Blair Tindall that I think you were complaining about. Accounts cannot be delted once created because any edits must continue to be attributed to the account that made them. However, you have the right to vanish. This leaves your account in existence, but in no way associated with you personally. Or if you didn't link your real name or identity to your account, you can simply stop using it. the signature is FOUR tildes, by the way (~~~~). I hope that helped a trifle. DES ^(talk) 19:18, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed your addition per WP:BLPREMOVE which starts: "Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that is unsourced or poorly sourced". You wrote "Tindall's side of the story is not often heard", and then made claims ending with a link to an apparent reference, but the supposed reference doesn't actually mention your claims. Please do not add unsourced content to Wikipedia articles, and especially not negative claims about living people. If what you describe as Tindall's side of the story has not been published by a reliable source then it cannot be added to Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 19:40, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, PrimeHunter I should have double checked, not just fixed the citation markup. DES ^(talk) 20:49, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

la popalazione della sicilia

sicilia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.146.218.149 (talk) 19:21, 8 August 2015 (UTC) [reply]

What is your question, please? DES ^(talk) 19:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The header thraslates to "the population of sicily". Ill check it out and see if I can figure out what the issue is. The Editor of All Things Wikipedia ^《Talk》 23:28, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They probably just want to know the population of sicily, which can be found in our article Sicily. Sam Walton (talk) 23:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Notifications

How do I get email notifications if any of the articles I have contributed to are subsequently changed by other users? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aembiricos (talk • contribs) 22:29, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Aembiricos in your Preferences on the user profile tab (the first tab) in the "email options" section, there is a check box for " Email me when a page or a file on my watchlist is changed". However if your watchlist is large, it can quickly overwhelm your inbox. (My list is over 5,000 pages). DES ^(talk) 22:49, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Other email notifications are on the "notifications" tab. DES ^(talk) 22:50, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Welcome to the helpdesk. Please feel free to ask any more questions here or at my talk page. The closest thing that I know of, feel free to correct me anyone, is to click preferences in the top right corner. Then click the notificarions tab under preferences. There will be a list of events with two chckboxes next to each one. Look for the edit revert box and make sure the box to the far right under the column email is checked. If you are new, Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks im The Editor of All Things Wikipedia ^《Talk》 22:51, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Editor of All Things Wikipedia, that is whree yoiu can get email notices for everything covered by WP:ECHO but for watch list changes the option is near the bottom of the first tab (as I said above), one may need to scroll down. DES ^(talk) 22:56, 8 August 2015 (UTC) @The Editor of All Things Wikipedia: DES ^(talk) 22:57, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok but the pages he edits arent neccesarily on his watch list. I beleive he just wants to be alerted when someone reverts a recent edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Editor of All Things Wikipedia (talk • contribs) 22:59, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I guess both ways could work depending on what he is specifically looking for. Thanks The Editor of All Things Wikipedia ^《Talk》 23:01, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The notificatiosn option will email about direct reverts, but the wiki software is pretty specific about what constitutes a "revert" I think A later sizable change that altered part of an earlier edit would not be counted as a revert i think. Each selection has its uses, and they do soemwhat different things. But to get "email notifications if any of the articles I have contributed to are subsequently changed by other users" in any way I think one would need to watchlist them and then use that preference item. To see only direct reverts the other item under notifications is better. DES ^(talk) 23:09, 8 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

August 9

Stern warning in source

While working on User:Jakec/Sutton Creek (Susquehanna River), I came upon this source, which has an unusually stern warning ordering people not to "use or reproduce the data in these links for research or publishing purposes". I'm assuming that a) that only applies to the wholesale copying of data, not merely using it as a source and b) that even if A were not true, nobody would be legally obligated to follow that demand, but thought it would be good to make sure before rolling it into mainspace. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 01:41, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They can say it all they want, but the law is pretty darned clear and long-settled: facts cannot be copyrighted or trademarked; only the presentation, wording, etc. is subject to copyright and trademarking. That said: IANAL. --Orange Mike | Talk 02:03, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Yes. It looks to me like just a stronger version of the usual copyright notice. If you cite any facts that are in the source, in your words, and the copyright owner has the audacity to issue a takedown notice, the ball is in the WMF's court, and they have good lawyers. By the way, the user page draft looks to be in good shape and ready to be moved into article space. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Jakec, IANAL either, but I think I have a fair notion of US copyright law for a non-laywer. I agree with the two comments above. Moreover, the US courts have developed a doctrine of "abuse of copyright". If a copyright holder attempts to preclude legitimate fair use rights by an unjustified copyright claim, an court can declare this to be an "abuse of copyright" and void the holder's copyright completely, placing the work in the public domain. This is rarely done, but the specter of it can help to restrain dubious claims. DES ^(talk) 04:03, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the advice. I've gone ahead and moved the article to mainspace. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 15:19, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sacred Heart Catholic High School, Newcastle upon Tyne

Can you check that we can now remove the "problem" tags at the top of this page. I have tried to add the relevant citations etc Thanks t. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 05:26, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The first 3 references are not independent of the subject, and the fourth one doesn't mention the subject. You need reliable sources independent of the subject. --David Biddulph (talk) 05:47, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Is reference 23 (from a book) correctly done on the above page (Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge)? I do not know how to do it as a book. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 06:24, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed See Template:Cite book - NQ (talk) 06:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Martineau family

Please help - What have I done wrong with ref. 5 on this page? cheers guys - you are a great help — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 06:50, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed Same issue as before Wikipedia:Help desk/Archives/2015_August 1. Please see Help:CS1 errors#Check date values in: .7Cparam1=, .7Cparam2=,_...- NQ (talk) 07:48, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

About Signature

When Sign anything the time is singed according to UTC . But I live in India how to change the time that will be signed Krishna Chaitanya Velaga _Talk 06:59, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Krishna Chaitanya Velaga: See Wikipedia:Comments in Local Time, a gadget that displays time in signatures relative to your local time. - NQ (talk) 08:01, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

St Andrew's School, Pangbourne

There is something odd about the first few ref. on this page - Are they incorrectly done citations? Should they be removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 07:07, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

They weren't citations, merely numbers enclosed in brackets. I've removed them and replaced some with named refs. - NQ (talk) 07:56, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zensar Technologies

Just out of curiosity, why does the image in the infobox at Zensar Technologies have double red rectangles around it? Deli nk (talk) 12:46, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In User:Deli nk/vector.js you have enabled the link classifier. It uses double red borders to draw attention to non free images. -- John of Reading (talk) 13:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh! I forgot about that. Thank you. Deli nk (talk) 13:12, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Correcting a Wikipedia Content's Title

Greetings,

I recently discovered that someone unauthorized created a Wikipedia entry called Meyer Little Toot.

This refers to the history of The Little Toot Biplane created by George Meyer.

I am the webmaster for Meyer Aircraft and neither the owner of Meyer Aircraft nor I were ever contacted about creating this entry.

That said, I have spent all morning correcting the information in the entry because we think it is a good idea to have it, as long as it meets our terms.

We are almost there. Here's where we need your help. The entry name is not just what it should be.

The Biplane is not Meyer Little Toot, it's Meyer's Little Toot. The entry should be in the English possessive tense.

Please change the entry's title accordingly to Meyer's Little Toot and we'll be fine with it.

Little Toot Biplane — Preceding unsigned comment added by Little Toot Biplane (talk • contribs) 18:38, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done I have moved the page, though you should understand that it is not because you (webmaster for Meyer Aircraft) have requested it, but because it appears to be the correct name for the subject. As an employee or associate of Meyer Aircraft, you have a conflict of interest and should not be adding or removing any content from this article directly. I will need to review the changes you have made to see if they require either reversion or a {{coi}} tag to be placed on the article to point out that non-neutral editing may have occurred. In the future, I suggest that you limit yourself to offering suggestions on the Talk page of this article, while being careful to reveal your connection to the company and/or person that produced the subject aircraft. General Ization ^Talk 18:45, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, please note that no "authorization" by or consultation with Meyer Aircraft or any of its employees/associates is required for the creation or maintenance of any article on Wikipedia. Please read WP:OWN carefully. General Ization ^Talk 18:48, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Little Toot Biplane: Last, please confirm my impression that exactly one (1) of this aircraft was produced, i.e. this aircraft was never mass-produced and offered for retail sale. It's difficult to determine this conclusively from the article as it currently stands, and it should be more clear to the reader if this is (or is not) the case. It also may be a factor in weighing the subject's notability. General Ization ^Talk 19:03, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Update: This suggests otherwise, in the sense that plans for the aircraft are sold and any aircraft so constructed is called a "Meyer's Little Toot". The article here seems to primarily talk about the original aircraft built by George Meyer N61G, but this requires clarification.) General Ization ^Talk 19:33, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Section heading help

See Benjamin Tallmadge#American Revolutionary War. At the bottom of the section are four facts about the subject individual that are out of place in that section and need their own, but I'm at a loss as to a heading. "Eponyms" doesn't work because he is the eponym, not those things, per dictionary. Suggestions? ―Mandruss ☎ 23:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have tentatively moved these four items into a section called Namesakes. General Ization ^Talk 23:47, 9 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

August 10

High profile users who are dishonest - Who can I talk to about them?

Hello,

I've had a problem with certain users on wikipedia, usually high profile. I agree with many of them, but some seem to be a little dishonest and biased. Is there anyone I can talk to regarding this problem? Olehal09 (talk) 02:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

First, understand that our perception is sometimes unreliable, due to the limitations of online communication. Read WP:AGF and ask yourself how much objective evidence you have to support your instincts. Consider discussing the issues with the users on their user talk pages; communication sometimes helps and rarely hurts. Failing that, see WP:CONDUCT for a list of behavioral policies. If you feel any of them are being violated, you can open a complaint at WP:ANI. Failing that, you can simply learn to live with them, or avoid them by working on different articles. If you wish to discuss further, you can do so here or contact someone on their user talk page; you can reach mine, for example, by clicking on the telephone symbol. ---> ―Mandruss ☎ 02:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Also, and though I am making every effort to AGF with regard to you too, this declaration of your apparent intentions (and of your opinion of Wikipedians generally) is not likely to promote good relations with other editors, especially those who edit actively and with whom you should be collaborating to improve articles here. You might want to consider whether that is really the best and most constructive way to start a relationship. General Ization ^Talk 02:25, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Oleha is an s.p.a. with some WP:FRINGE ideas about race, about whether discrimination exists in the United States nowadays[!], etc. His idea of "dishonest", bluntly, is probably applicable to 98% of the editors here. --Orange Mike | Talk 12:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Mike. I asked if there is a consensus. Is it true that women and minroites are/have been discriminated by individuals, are there any real proof. Or are there other reasons than just their race or sex. If this is fringe, there is something really wrong with Wikipedia. Thoughts are not a crime. Olehal09 (talk) 18:59, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

True, but failure to share your thoughts on any given topic, nor thinking them so unreasonable as to be unworthy of debate, does not make any other editor dishonest. Not having been a party to any discussions with you, I can't say for certain that this is what is happening here, but based on Mike's and your comment I'd wager that it is. In any case, Mandruss's advice above is good advice. General Ization ^Talk 19:07, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Since this discussion is going on at ANI, this is probably a good place to stop here. General Ization ^Talk 19:58, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Orangemike: Off-topic question: I give up: What do you mean, above, by "s.p.a."? --Thnidu (talk) 21:49, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Single-purpose account. General Ization ^Talk 21:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@General Ization: Thanks. --Thnidu (talk) 22:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Little Mix discography

Reference help requested.

hello, yes I made a mistake and realized it today, but I can put HOT100 of japan again when the new single of them debut?You can see what other singles are there

www.billboard.com/charts/japan-hot-100

today I made a new edition adding the chart of Austria since Black Magic debuted this week, you can see here:

Black Magic (Little Mix song)

http://acharts.co/austria_singles_top_75

and Word Up!

Word Up! (song)

http://acharts.co/song/84282

waiting for reply.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.70.18.236 (talk • contribs)

Your question is hard to understand. You have edited neither Black Magic (Little Mix song) nor Word Up! (song) today. Maproom (talk) 17:04, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

It's clearly about Little Mix discography in the section heading, IP talk page and contributions. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Changing page title

I wish to change the capitalization of a page title from "Global economic prospects" to "Global Economic Prospects".

Adding the following did not change the way the title appears:

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GL19GL61 (talk • contribs)

@GL19GL61: DISPLAYTITLE can only change capitalization of the first letter in the whole title. I have moved the article to Global Economic Prospects instead. This also changes the title everywhere while DISPLAYTITLE only affects what is shown at top of the article page. Your account has too few edits to move pages (you have 6 and need 10). PrimeHunter (talk) 16:59, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

Article on Bormann : Martin Bormann was never minister of the Interior. The post was occupied by Frick, then Himmler after 1943— Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.92.150.15 (talk • contribs)

Thank you. Kierzek has removed the sentence that was in error. Dbfirs 20:51, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

template issue

I am writing because new notices have mysteriously appeared in reference to the words, biophony, geophony and anthropophony, suggesting that the “…topic of this article may not meet Wikipedia’s general notability guideline.” I thought that all of those issues had been adequately covered in the bibliography section considering all of the peer-reviewed publications that have been issued since 1998, the year biophony was first published. Apparently, these were added again and I am wondering why this is happening? I believe I have met all of the Wiki standards requested in this matte.

If, indeed, the articles require more due diligence, please tell me how they can be improved so that we can insure no further notices attached to the words. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.212.58.72 (talk) 18:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

(Noting that you have edited the articles listed as user Biophony, including removing the templates, but posted here without logging in.) Have you contacted Ukexpat, the editor who placed the templates, to examine their reasoning for placing the notices? General Ization ^Talk 19:14, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is about the articles Biophony, Geophony, and Anthropophony. All three articles are referenced almost entirely to inaccessible publications by Bernie Krause, and, like the Krause article, were written mostly by Biophony, who has contributed little else. I believe that the {{notability}} tags placed by Ukexpat are warranted, and shall replace them. Maproom (talk) 19:29, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

And add Niche hypothesis to the list. Maproom (talk) 19:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That was exactly my reasoning - insufficient reliable sources to demonstrate notability.--ukexpat (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There's also the problem that the articles are largely about the terms, not the topics. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. Maproom (talk) 20:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

... but please don't add protologisms to Wiktionary until they are used by others. Dbfirs 20:46, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Userbox box questions

Attn Please click edit next to this header to read this post as my examples are screwed up outside of edit mode.

I was looking into putting userboxes on my userpage. But I would like them enclosed in a userbox box. The only template that I have seen makes them appear in a vertical column like this ([ U ]=Userbox)-

______________
|  TEXT HERE |
|            |
|[    U     ]|
|[    U     ]|
|[    U     ]|
|[    U     ]|
|____________|

I would like a template thay encases them horizontally instead of vertically so like this-

__________________________________________________
|                   TEXT  HERE                   |
|                                                |
|[     U   ] [    U    ] [    U     ] [     U   ]|
|________________________________________________|

Could someone either refer me to an existing one or create me one if they have the expertise? Wikipenguin 8 (talk) 19:16, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed your examples so they show correctly, revert me if you don't like it. -- GB fan 19:19, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipenguin 8: Note that many users have mobile devices with narrow windows. I don't know whether we have a template for it but you could make a table like Wikipedia:Userboxes#Using tables, as I see you have already done. Here is a way to get a border around it:

TEXT HERE

This user enjoys jazz-rock fusion.

This user is a Lieutenant Colonel in the United States Air Force.

This user helps out newcomers.

This user prefers warm weather.

PrimeHunter (talk) 22:59, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, thats what I was looking for! Wikipenguin 8 (talk) 23:01, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I have two others that I want to submit... when I go my sandbox it is full of the text, etc for the article i just submitted. how can i get a new page?

I have created an article in my sandbox and posted for submission.

I have two others that I want to submit... when I go my sandbox it is full of the text, etc for the article i just submitted. how can i get a new page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by MeaghanMcCann (talk • contribs) 20:13, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I doesn't look like you have submitted anything yet. To submit the draft, edit it to add the code {{Subst:Submit}} to the top and save the page. I will say that the draft needs a lot of work before it is accepted. It needs much better sources than the subject's LinkedIn account and you need to read what WP:EL says about using external links in the text of the article. --ukexpat (talk) 20:23, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

@MeaghanMcCann: To answer your question, you can create another sandbox by creating User:MeaghanMcCann/sandbox2, User:MeaghanMcCann/sandbox3, etc. Also, it's better to put drafts at something like Draft:Ron Crabtree instead of in your user sandbox. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:27, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Change of username

I need to change my username somehow it violates wiki rules, how can I do it without loosing my sandbox work? (Astaridreams (talk) 20:34, 10 August 2015 (UTC))[reply]

If you request a change of username and this is improved and implemented, then your user pages (including your sandbox) will be automatically renamed as part of that process. There is, however, nothing in your user sandbox except a redirect to Draft:Astari Nite, which is where your draft was moved on 13 July. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:06, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Theory Regarding the Origin and Future of Our Planet Earth

How do I create a page on Wikipedia?

I plan to publish a white paper this year to disclose a new and possibly controversial theory regarding the Origin and future of our planet Earth. The page of the same title on Wikipedia will enable the scientific community to participate in development, commentary, documentation or criticism of this theory. This page WILL NOT be used to promote the white paper, although the existence of the white paper may be mentioned on the web page.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Centvrio8513 (talk • contribs) 20:44, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not the place to publish your original research. Once your white paper has been published and your theories have been discussed in peer reviewed publications, then it might be appropriate for someone to create a Wikipedia page on the theory, but not until then. Even then, conflict of interest should prevent you from creating the Wikipedia page yourself. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 20:47, 10 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

August 11

Please check the page which has been submitted

Resolved

– Draft deleted as a copyvio.--ukexpat (talk) 12:49, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Could someone who is an established Wikipedia Editor please check the page which has been submitted, and if it conforms to Wikipedia Guidelines, please advance the page to the next level of approval, thank you.

This Wikipedia Page has been submitted for inclusion on Wikipedia.org with information pertaining to and regarding Damian Xaviar Stone, commonly known as Dr. Damian Stone, born Dimitri Xanadu Stein. All content has been submitted in a manner in which has endeavored to follow the proper protocol set forth by Wikipedia.org. Thank you.

Draft:Dr. Damian Stone

PoliticalClearinghouse (talk) 01:28, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved nominated for csd for blatant copyright violations. Hell in a Bucket (talk) 01:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I tried to delete it but someone beat me to it. It clearly is a blatant copyright violation. Even if it wasn't it was wholly unsuitable in its present form.--S Philbrick (Talk) 01:47, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Counteract

THERE DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE A REFERENCE FOR THE WORD "COUNTERACT" MAENING ANTIDOTE OR OPPOSING ACTION. PLEASE CREATE ONE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.148.74.179 (talk) 01:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a title to this section. Also, please don't SHOUT. As for your comment, as an encyclopedia, we don't list definitions of words. That is the job of Wiktionary. See Wiktionary:counteract. Dismas|^(talk) 01:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Zac Harding

When I was ten my stepdad introduced me to the bass guitar and since then I’ve had a growing infatuation for music. My first five albums I bought were Fatboy Slim, Moby, The Hives, Marvin Gaye, and The Velvet Underground. To this day I still listen to those albums. I’ve made music my life and am currently working in all aspects of it, from studio recordings, live sound, licensing, management, A&R and simple advice to young artists. Although I see these things as beneficial for the Minneapolis music scene, I want to help and learn on a much grander scale eventually.Zacharding (talk) 03:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is not Facebook, we do not want autobiographies, and articles require multiple independent reliable sources. Ian.thomson (talk) 03:30, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Your Opinion/Vote

Also asked and answered at the Tea House.--ukexpat (talk) 12:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Hi, Im in the process of usurpating the username Frigid and am looking for an arctic themed signature. I have decided on one type but which order of colors looks best. Please vote 1 or 2. If you have any cool suggestions too, I would like to hear them. Im posting this in a few places and am going to choose the one with the most votes. Thanks. Here they are.

1. Frigid^(Talk)

2. Frigid^(Talk)

Thanks again, Wikipenguin 8 (talk) 04:18, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For what it's worth: 2 so that the more important part of the signature has better foreground/background contrast. -- John of Reading (talk) 06:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The exact same question was asked at the Teahouse. That behavior is discouraged, although the original poster may be unaware of that, as a new editor. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

According: Resubmit article

Hello Wikipedia-Community,

I tried several times to resubmit my new article about the voxeljet AG Draft:Voxeljet AG. The article got declined because of too much paraphrasing. I changed some parts and wanted to resubmit it. But each time I pushed the "save page" button for resubmitting nothing changed. In the description is said that there should appear a new yellow box on the bottom of the page and it will be suggested for the permission and will get controlled. So maybe you could help me or give me some advice to get out of this disaster.

Thank you very much and I am looking forward to your answer,

David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davidwikipedia94 (talk • contribs) 07:41, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

A </references> tag was missing, and this was interfering with your submission requests. I've fixed things up and the draft is now in the review queue. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Nawab of Swabi.... Nawab Zohaib Ali Khan.. one of the best outstanding cricketer. as well as best and romantic and charming . person.

nawab of swabi... Nawab Zohaib Ali Khan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NAWAB ZOHAIB KHAN11 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The user page User:Drabimanyu contains a poorly-written article claiming that Zohaib Ali Khan played cricket for Pakistan from 1998 to 2008, and is now a "local film superstar". I can find no evidence for either claim, nor for the claim that he is the Nawab of Swabi. However, someone has posted many videos of him on Youtube. Maproom (talk) 10:09, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Family of Catherine, Duchess of Cambridge

Could you please place the accent over word "nee" in the subheading - "Peter Francis Middleton and Valerie Middleton, nee Glassborow" on this page? Thanks so much T. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 09:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Done. (You could easily have done it yourself, by copying one of the many other "née"s in the article.) Maproom (talk) 09:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is also a template for that (yes of course there is!): {{nee}}.--ukexpat (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lupton family

Please don't think me stupid! What is wrong with ref. number 93 on the Lupton family page? Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 10:19, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. It didn't like "accessdate=11 August 20115", it prefers access dates to be in the recent past. Maproom (talk) 10:29, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In these cases it is always worth looking at the error message. In this case the error message was very clear. It told you (in red) that the problem was in the accessdate parameter, and also gave a wikilink to a help page (though in this case the help is unnecessary). --David Biddulph (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Connector infobox in article section

I was thinking on putting a connector infobox in On-board diagnostics#OBD-II diagnostic connector. I've always seen that infobox at start of an article, but never deep in the article. My intention is to substitute the actual pinout table with the "standardized" infobox. I asked in the talk page with no success, so I ask here. Do you see it appropriate? xOneca (talk) 10:36, 11 August 2015 (UTC

It is used mid-article in IEEE-488. I don't see any problems with that. The use of the template seems appropriate in this case. Rwessel (talk) 17:55, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lupton family

Sorry - but I don't know how to change an incorrect citation. Ref. 93 on Lupton family page - the 2nd last line of Ref. 93 - should read: (an Old Bedalian) NOT (and Old Bedalian) I am embarrassed! Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 10:43, 11 August 2015‎ (UTC)[reply]

It is easier for people to help you if you include a wikilink to the article in question. You make it even more difficult if you forget to sign your message so we can't even look at your contributions easily. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:48, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You can correct that the same as editing any of the text in the article. Click the edit button either at the top of the page or preferably at the top of the section where the reference is defined. Find the text and change it. Then save. (If you've just edited the section one drawback is that you can't easily preview the reference change, so you'll need to check it after the save.) --David Biddulph (talk) 10:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing errors on Draft:Devbridge Group

Reference help requested. Hello, I see I have a message stating that the references I have listed for my draft article on Devbridge Group are not complete. It lists that the references were invoked but never defined. I have read through the help page but cannot seem to remedy the situation. I would really appreciate assistance. Thanks, Mrsavage84 (talk) 13:35, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed in this edit.--ukexpat (talk) 13:42, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

How to solicit more input in a discussion to reach consensus

How am I able to solicit more input in a discussion, in order to reach a consensus? This discussion is on a very low-traffic Talk Page (namely, Template talk:Death date and age). Please advise. Thanks. Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 15:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

You could try raising it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Time, but even that one doesn't have a large number of followers. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:02, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Query regarding Grey Panel

Hi. I just made my first edit to Wikipedia as a registered Wikipedia user on the following page: C-sharp major

However, I failed to understand how to make changes in the grey vertical panel displayed on the right-hand side of the page.

Hope to hear from you soon. Thanks for taking your time out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vinay was here (talk • contribs) 17:43, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

That panel is an infobox. In this particular case it is created by the use of Template:Infobox musical scale. Unless you understand how the syntax of the infobox work, I would recommend that you don't try editing it. If there are things which need changing, you may be better advised to make suggstions at Talk:C-sharp major, with reasons. Note that in your question I have changed the url of the article to a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:50, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Now that I look at the article I see that your edits were reverted, and it looks as if the revert was justified. You may want to look at external sources, of which https://www.basicmusictheory.com/c-sharp-major-key-signature is one example. If you are still convinced that your change is justified, the place to discuss it is on the article talk page, but you would need to provide references to published reliable sources to support your change. --David Biddulph (talk) 18:03, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Sports people from Perth, Scotland

I wish to point out that Donald Mackay should be included in the page 'Sports People from Perth, Scotland' Although born in Glasgow, his parents moved to Perth when Donald was months old therefore most of his life (25 years of it) was spent in Perth. You can find all his details on his Wikipedia page and you will see that he played professional football with Forfar Athletic (4 years) Dundee United (10 years) and Southend United (2 years). He also went on to coach Bristol City youth team before going on to manage Norresundby (in Denmark), Dundee FC, Coventry City FC, Blackburn Rovers FC and Fulham FC. I accessed the page on Wikipedia for Jeanfield Swifts jfc for whom Donald played perhaps less than a year before joining Forfar Athletic. I think his professional career somewhat deserves a mention in the Sports People from Perth as there are many on that particular page who have not achieved half the acclaim he has.

Kind regards

craigmur ¬¬¬¬ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craigmur (talk • contribs) 17:56, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Note that the article is at Don Mackay. Whether he should be listed under . . . Perth or . . . Glasgow I leave to others to judge. {the poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 212.95.237.92 (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Michelle Woods

In the bing search results under Jeffrey Donovan you list Michelle Woods as his spouse, when you click on Michelle Woods spouse under his name it is lunked onto my imdb.com page and you are using my copyright image my black and white photo from my imdb.com page Michelle Woods. There are two Michelle Woods. I Michelle Woods actress from the Wedding Crashers on imdb.com am not married to Jeffrey Donovan and under my black and white photo you list his child Claire Donovan under my black and white photo when you search my name Michelle Woods. This link is coming from wikipedia kindly correct and remove my photo from Jeffrey Donovan and remove Claire Donovan off from my photo. stop mixing our identities together. My imdb.com page Michelle Woods says im not married and I have no children. My official website https:// www.michellewoods.com states in red writing that I am not married to Jeffrey Donovan and that I have no children. My official site is also linked onto imdb. on bing search tesults you click Michelle Woods and wikipedia linked that to my pages confusing the press and public. i am not Jeffrey Donovans wife stop using my copyright photos as his spouse — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE9E:94C0:F06F:E3C:FF9F:8F6E (talk) 18:08, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia does not control search engine searches, in fact the Wikipedia article Jeffrey Donovan makes no obvious mention of a spouse. Search engine results are taken from multiple sites, and so this information is caused by an issue on another website, not Wikipedia. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on Jeffrey Donovan made no mention because the IP user took it out. I reverted the IP's edit, because although the article did say Jeffrey Donovan was married to a Michelle Woods, there was no link between his Michelle Woods and the actress. Indeed, the actress Michelle Woods does not appear to even have a Wikipedia article at all. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you believe there is a problem in a page here at our website https://en.wikipedia.org then please check the problem is actually here and link to the page.

Are you sure you are seeing the problem in Bing search and not Google search? Here is a standard reply about Google:

Are you by any chance referring to a photo or text shown to the right of a Google search? Google's Knowledge Graph uses a wide variety of sources. There may be a text paragraph ending with "Wikipedia" to indicate that particular text was copied from Wikipedia. An image and other text before or after the Wikipedia excerpt may be from sources completely unrelated to Wikipedia. We have no control over how Google presents our information, but Google's Knowledge Graph has a "Feedback" link where anyone can mark a field as wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia Description of Oceana Energy Company

I am General Counsel to Oceana Energy Company. It was brought to my attention that Wikipedia contained information about Oceana Energy Company. When I checked the information I discovered that it was extremely out of date (more than 7 years old and seriously inaccurate, contain derogatory information about the Company apparently written by a competitor. So I rewrote the Oceana Energy information in it entirety. At the end of the process I received a message warning me that some links had been removed and against "vandalisM and told me that if I wanted to proceed with changes, which I did, I should save page again and then send Wikipedia an "error message." Which this is. Although the system told me that the updated information concerning Oceana had been saved, however when I went back to the Wikipeida listing for Oceana I discovered that the out of date, inaccurate and derogatory information had not been replaced. How do I fix this? 18:14, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Dtlaw (talk)

@Dtlaw: Due to your conflict of interest, you should not be directly editing that article, instead you should suggest changes at the article talkpage. I've reverted your changes, because they removed sourced content with unsourced, promotional tone content- note that Wikipedia is not a place to advertise your company. I've also PRODed the article, as I do not believe your company is notable enough for Wikipedia. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The bottom line is that the old article re Oceana is hopelessly outdated and perhaps more importantly false with negative statements about Oceana apparently provided by an Oceana competitor. If I cannot edit the article then it should simply be deleted as out of date. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.15.59.201 (talk) 19:12, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

What you should do, instead of editing the article directly, is post suggested changes at the talk page. You need to make sure any suggested changes are attributed to reliable sources which are not published by the company itself (i.e. not the company's website, not press releases, etc.). One example of such sources is an article published in a newspaper about the company. Again, an article, not a re-printed press release.

I agree that there is some unnecessary negative information in the current article. I'll remove that information, as the article currently seems to be serving as a coatrack for that. That will reduce it to a stub, and if you want to communicate on the article's talk page we can collaborate on the article from there. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I did not remove ALL the information about competitors' accusations; as some of it is/may be relevant when/if the article is expanded, but I did remove the unnecessarily inflamatory quote at the end, which could be considered a violation of our policies on living people. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 19:27, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Gerry Zaragemca

I now that I can not do my own biography in here. but for any good use that would apply I relate this information

I was born, Gerardo Carrillo, Sept-24-1954, in, Figuras # 180, between, Manrique and Tenerife,( el barrio de los Sitios).

Debido a el Huracan de 1966, a todos los que vivian alli los mudaron y me familia se traslado para, San Miguel # 420, between, Lealtad y Campanario,( el barrio de San Leopoldo), donde estaba los famosos,'Panart' Studios, desde 1940's y despues La E.G.R.E.M, Los studios de grabacion de la Habana, en donde tuve la oportunidad de converser con grandes directores de musica. y despues antes de venir para los Estados Unidos viviamos en el barrio de, Jesus Maria. En el barrio de los sitios naci en un ambiente de rumberos Mayores,( see the article, 'History of the Rumberos', at the drummagazine.com). y siempre estuve pendiente de todas las estructuras de la percussion Afro Cubana y de los estudios de los tambores en Cuba,( Antropologia,( see the article,( Zaragemca sobre la Historia de ifa), Univision.com. Pero tambien seguia el Jazz, el Rock y lo tocaba, y toda la musica que se escuchaba en la radio en Cuba. Mi primer grupo fue con, Tony Cuesta que vivia en el Cerro, Musica de Rock y con grupos que se formaban para tocar en fiestas particulares y centros turisticos, contratado por el, I.N.I.T. Y las descargas de Jazz que organizaba, Paquito D' Rivera en la Playa y con los musicos de la Escuela, de Musica, Amadeo Roldan. Barroso,(trombonist), fue el que le dijo a los que estaban formando el grupo de la E.N.A., Escuela Nacional de Artes, que conocia a un baterista que tocaba de todo y asi fui el baterista de la E. N. A. en los festivals de Becas. continua. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.126.211.61 (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

This is the English Wikipedia, so all article text and discussion should be in English. Also, please provide reliable sources to support your claims. Joseph2302 (talk) 18:54, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The Article on Hashtags

Whenever i paste the link for the following page into Facebook the preview uses inappropriate profanity which is not edifying for children and others. Hashtag

I do not know how to attach my screen capture here.

What is says is the following. "Hashtag - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A bullshit is a type of label or metadata tag used on a social network and microblogging services which..."

I have tried to find this language in the page and in the source without success. Thank you, Doug Lauffer 20:38, 11 August 2015 (UTC)Doug Lauffer — Preceding unsigned comment added by Doug Lauffer (talk • contribs)

It appears to have been reverted with this[1] edit, on August 6th. To the OP, try purging your browser's cache, it may still have an old copy. Rwessel (talk) 21:20, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not on Facebook and don't know how they operate but if this is something you see at Facebook then I wonder whether Facebook has cached an old version of the article. We have no control over Facebook. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting... It does it for me too. Even after clearing my cache. Dismas|^(talk) 23:00, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Help:Cite errors/Cite error references no text

Hi,. two questions --

I'm trying to add something to one article without learning a huge manual of procedures. Simply, how do I fix the problem> i find the help stuff useless.

Secondly, can I add a photograph somehow? I can see nothing on this anywhere...

LCI — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lloydt2y (talk • contribs) 20:44, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I've removed some extraneous text from the date parameter of the cite template on M102 howitzer. Is that what you were asking about? I also see that user:David Biddulph has reverted your edits for being unsourced. Note that personal experience is not a reliable source, please see WP:RS. Rwessel (talk) 21:26, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

As for adding a photo, Lloydt2y, I'm afraid that this is a bit complicated. There are two complications. The first is the matter of copyright: if you took the photo yourself, you can probably upload it, because you probably own the copyright and have the power to release it under a suitable license. If you did not take it yourself, you probably cannot use it unless you can persuade the copyright owner to release it under a Creative Commons licence (permission to use it on Wikipedia is not enough). If it is a picture you found on the internet, it is unlikely that you can use it.

If its copyright status is suitable, then the second complication is that there are two steps to using it: first you must upload it to Wikimedia Commons (see Help:Upload) and only then can you use it in an article --ColinFine (talk) 23:52, 11 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

August 12

Johnnie Juanita Mohamed

I provided the information for Birmingham Civil Rights Institute Oral History Project Interview. Please advise what's next. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rednose1 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The article Johnnie Juanita Mohamed is now in danger of being deleted. At the top of it is a notice explaining what must be done for it to be retained. Maproom (talk) 08:19, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Wikidata help

This isn't a Wikipedia question, but does anyone here know how to merge Wikidata entries? The page Maspalomas Dunes, which contains links to only en.wp and simple.wp, needs to be merged with Dunas de Maspalomas, which contains all the other interwiki links; and I'm too tired to wade through Wikidata pages trying to figure out how to accomplish this. Can someone give me simple instructions? Deor (talk) 01:29, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you enable the first gadget "Merge" at wikidata:Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-gadgets. Then select "Merge with..." on the "More" tab at Maspalomas Dunes. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:41, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Well, that was certainly easy; no telling how long it would have taken me to figure it out myself. Thanks, PH. Deor (talk) 01:47, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Uploading a copyrighted image you own

Hi, I am looking to upload up a photo of an artist I work with. They have suggested a photo. It was a watermark copyright sign on it. Would this be appropriate, or does this go against Wikipedia policy? They are happy for it to be on here, but have asked whether the photo with the watermark can be included? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adamgerace (talk • contribs) 07:11, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

If you work with the artist, can't you just take another photo and upload that? This would eliminate both the watermark problem and the need for them to provide a formal copyright release. Maproom (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Lupton family

Hi, Please could you put the words "Lupton Hall" in italics. The words are in the twentieth century section at the end of the page. Thanks Mike{{ I do not know how to sign off - sorry, I am hopeless at this and often my students do it instead of me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 10:30, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The way to sign your posts has been explained to you three times on your user talk page. Please remember also that I told you in a section above, only yesterday, that it is easier for people to help you if you include a wikilink to the article in question. The way to format text, including italics, is explained at Help:Wiki markup, however it is not obvious why those words ought to be in italics. Which of the criteria in MOS:ITALICS do those words meet? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:05, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Hi David Thanks for the response. I read the MOS: ITALICS guide - My guess is that the Lupton Hall is a great design - it is from the Arts and Crafts movement and many works of art etc are usually in italics. What do you think? It would be great if you could read through the page and check that any italic words have been done correctly.

I know you have explained 3 times - but I find it really hard to even get onto my talk page. I know I did use a sign post once so I can actually do it - I just don't remember how to. I am sorry - please be patient with the older guys on Wikipedia!! Thanks again Mike — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.182.217.169 (talk) 11:14, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

In the message to which you were replying I gave you a link to your user talk page. You will also find a "talk" link in the signature which SineBot has put when you didn't sign. As far as the italics are concerned, the MOS gives a pretty comprehensive list which doesn't include buildings. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:23, 12 August 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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