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That biography of Kemi Olunloyo is bogus. Are you aware the woman is an attention seeker who lies about her accomplishments?

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2009/07/11/crime_victim_advocate_wanted_in_georgia.html

She lived in the United States for 30 years until 2006. She was born in Nigeria. She committed crimes and she lost her pharmacy license. She fled the US to Nigeria. She jumped bail. She was wanted ever since in US. They never seeked her out. She went to Nigeria for a year. She came to Canada in 2007 and claimed refugee status. She got deported 5 years later for being a phony refugee. It was not a political decision. During that time, she never worked or contributed to Canada. She spent her time attention seeking. When she went back to Nigeria, she continued being an attention seeker. She lives and gets support from family.

Take a few minutes to do your research. This woman is a nobody.

Take care. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.91.141.130 (talk) 14:10, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi, both of you! I took the liberty of copying this to Talk:Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo. Sjö (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

Carnaby Street (radio programme)

Hi there. May I thank you for your vote of support for the retention of my page, Carnaby Street (radio programme). After writing near 80 different articles on Wikipedia it is most frustrating to be drawn into such a long-winded debate for the retention of a page which I have to consistently argue for! Thanks for your positive comments, I hope the page will prevail. Harvey Milligan (talk) 18:50 (UTC) 25, July, 2015.

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Nomination of Rodney Malice for deletion

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About the decline of CSD in Havi Ibrahim

Hello Bartlett.. I see you've declined a CSD on the page Havi Ibrahim. Although that's not a matter of concern, the reason you left in the edit summary bothered me.. You mentioned that the subject 'made a film which has 'an article' . I guess that you mentioned this film The Legend of Kawa the Blacksmith, which by the way is a redirect page of Kāve, which is not a film. Just wanted to make sure that you took note of the above. Regards --JAaron95 (Talk) 13:20, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

You are right, I should have noted the other statements of claim to importance. If you can find no references (hard to do when they are probably in a script unreadable to us) then an AFD may be appropriate. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:07, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Redundant drafts

Is there an easy way to flag drafts as redundant and save the reviewers some time, where the creator has gone ahead and created the article anyway? The author of Draft:Abdulaziz bin Turki bin Talal (which I speedied, seemingly inappropriately) created the article at Abdulaziz Bin Turki Bin Talal Al-Saud the next day. --McGeddon (talk) 13:31, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

If this happens just redirect the draft page to the article. At this point there is not really a speedy reason to delete, but otherwise a "duplicate" decline, and awaiting a g13 is the alternative, which wastes more time. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:04, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks

You bet me to the delete button :-) I have already blocked the user in question and deleted their other contributions. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:18, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

I was thinking you were quick with the block as I was going to check contributions too. Thanks for acting fast. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:19, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

By the way if you are interested in copyright work. We have a bot that is flagging potential copyright concerns here [1]. A background on the bot is at WP:Turnitin.

The bot is still early in its development and we would love to improve the layout. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:21, 25 June 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Grounds for Coffee article

Hi again Graeme, a while ago you've reviewed Draft:Grounds for Coffee article that I created, and said that it needed to be a bit more noteworthiness. So, after some very exhaustive research, I've dug up some more articles to direct the readers to for good references. Oh one other note: I'm planning to upload and put in their company logo, but I know that for drafts you can't officially do that until it's an actual article - so that's pending. I've really done a lot of diligence on this article and I've seen several other articles within both "Category:Coffee houses of the United States" and List of coffeehouse chains and can tell you that this is easily much better than some of the ones which are already approved and yet don't even have half the content that this draft does. If you're able to review/approve this that would be great. Let me know what you think thanks for your time and consideration! Zul32 (talk) 16:55, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

User:EranBot/Copyright/rc tag

Here you switched my TP to FP, noting that the source website is public domain. That is true, but this area of that website is a database of abstracts from other publications. In this particular example, the material that was copied ultimately comes from the abstract of a Phys. Rev. Lett. article, and that journal is non-free as far as I can tell. Are abstracts considered free? DMacks (talk) 16:14, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

No, so I have reversed my edit. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:59, 5 July 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for following up with it! DMacks (talk) 02:32, 6 July 2015 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Difluorophosphate

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Modification on Border between Andorra and Spain

Thanks for your correction on this article. In fact I've used the translation genrator of wikipedia, and apparently he has again some mistakes. Olivier LPB (talk) 07:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes the translation generator pages have been getting my attention today. Since this is likely to be used by those with less English skill, the generated pages likely need to be fixed up. This article was quite fixable, unlike some others that I cannot understand. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:44, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

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Francesco Schettino

Thank you for your comments on the page that discusses FS [2]. There seems to be a consensus. I am not familiar with procedures at this point. Can the site just be restored? Ekem (talk) 12:35, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

Since there is a discussion in which I participated I will not unilaterally restore it. Instead we will wait for an independent person to close it. Normally I think this would be a week. An admin should close and restore in a couple of days unless a new lot of comments appear. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:53, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

I understand.Thanks. Ekem (talk) 14:13, 10 July 2015 (UTC)

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DYK nomination of Indium(III) sulfate

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Hi Graeme, there is no ref for the "unusual" clause and I could guess but which of the three that are close applies. cheers. Victuallers (talk) 11:51, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

I will propose an alternate hook, as the word "unusual" is not used in the references. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:13, 13 July 2015 (UTC)

DYK for Difluorophosphate

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Disappearance of Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon

Hi. I'm looking for help in writing Disappearance of Joanne Ratcliffe and Kirste Gordon‎. I was born many years after the event, but from what i can gather, the Ratcliffe-Gordon disappearance is second only to the Beaumont children disappearance for South Australians and ranks alongside the Beaumonts and the Disappearance of Eloise Worledge for Australian child crime history. Paul Austin (talk) 19:43, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I don't remember this event, but I have a vague memory of Beamonts, so I cannot help you from any personal experience. You are going to have to show interest over a period of time, so that it is not just a one event. So you will need newspapers and magazines over a period of time, hopefully years. At least because NLA has better online availability of Canberra Times, you can prove that it is beyond local coverage. The NLA also has eRecources that include SMH, but it is down at the moment. You are going to have to do a fair use rationale for the cover of the newspaper you have used. ie talk about that cover in the text. The Woman's day quote needs a reference from Woman's Day but not a pile of others. I assume that you will use those references. If you like I can nominate for DYK, if it is three times longer. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:26, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett: The newspaper front page is there to help show the notability. Most kidnappings and disappearances *do not* make the front page of the major morning and afternoon newspapers of a major city. The Woman's Day is cited through the database i read it in. Paul Austin (talk) 22:38, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

I do see coverage over years so that is good. But I suppose there should be more details in the story. The still needs to be a FUR for that newspaper cover though. I am sure this is notable, and the evidence does not actually have to be uploaded, it just needs to be verifyable. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:41, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

awb & fac

Hello Graeme, I used to be Ling.Nut. When it's convenient, Could you pls give me AWB approval... and does it have a "convert AmerEng --> BritEng" function? Tks • Lingzhi♦(talk) 00:37, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

 Done and I don't know. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 00:50, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. I left FAC in a huff a long while ago. I still have no idea whether I will review FACs (no plans at present), but I apologize for being overly huffy back then. Oops Graham/Graeme • Lingzhi♦(talk) 02:06, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

My involvement with FAC is to check some article for problems, and then fix the easy ones. I myself have not nominated anything, so I do not care too much if things pass or fail. One thing I have done recently is to parse the whole article into words and then sort them. Then alternative spelling show up easily, as do strange unicode characters, or stupid punctuation. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:27, 22 July 2015 (UTC)

Can you fix this for me?

Can you move Template:Template:Professional StarCraft competition back to Template:Professional StarCraft competition? Thanks Valoem ^{talk contrib} 02:38, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

Hopefully it is correct now. Those redirects were confusing. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:56, 23 July 2015 (UTC)

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A week or two ago you wiped a really dumb paste job that snuck into an edit of mine. Could have been awkward. Thank you very much. --Smokefoot (talk) 22:39, 26 July 2015 (UTC)

HELP on undeletion

Hello, I posted a request to undelete earlier for Draft of Producer James Worthy. You explained the reason for deletion. At this point, I honestly understand. I am clearly just trying to recoup the information and formatting for timing purposes. There was only an issue with "infringement" on his personal biography from another site that one of our team members posted. It was not written by the site reverbnation as that is a site that original information is submitted kind of like WIKI. You informed me that the deletion would NOT be recovered due to that fact. Of course I still have all of the information I posted and again, I understand completely. But because that was my first creation, it took me several hours to format the article and I would like to at least have access to it and I am currently re-writing his personal biography so the information would not be identical to the biography that we use on ALL of the other sites that we may post his bio to. I hope this gives you a better understanding of my request and I would greatly appreciate any help that you can offer to get back to my working point. I am still toggling around wiki to find a way to work from my ending point, but clearly it has been deleted and unrecoverable unless I can get through to someone. I will continue to re-write the biography and if I can't receive any help then I will be re-creating with a completely new biography. Thanks for your prompt response on my last post and I hope to hear from you again. CValrie CValrie (talk) 03:29, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

email sent. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:49, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your suggestion. I am restoring the text. Sanford1504 (talk) 04:16, 27 July 2015 (UTC)Sanford 1504

Request on 16:50:13, 27 July 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Trumpet4christ

• Trumpet4christ (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:University of Georgia College of Education (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi there, Graeme! Thanks for reviewing my draft for the University of Georgia College of Education. However, I'd ask you to reconsider your conclusion that the information is already covered by the University of Georgia article. It simply is not... the university article would not properly house our information except surrounding the events of our establishment. We operate in most ways independently of the university, as do most subdivisions of higher education institutions. We are ranked separately and accredited separately.

Further, the College of Education appears in a list of colleges and schools already on that page - each of which links to a separate Wikipedia article.

Other universities' colleges of education (our competitors) are structured on Wikipedia in the way we're seeking to be. They have independent articles from their parent organization. Here is just a small sample of examples:

• University of Michigan School of Education
• Michigan State University College of Education
• Johns Hopkins School of Education
• University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Education
• University of Florida College of Education
• University of Texas at Austin College of Education
• University of Alabama College of Engineering (not education, but still...)
• Harvard Graduate School of Education
• Peabody College

As we are older and larger than the majority of these, as well as being ranked alongside them in U.S. News & World Report, the primary published rankings for our industry, I again implore you to please reconsider declining our standalone article. I have a grad assistant for social media working to compile additional information, to be added within a few weeks, about our history, accreditations, and notable alumni -- data that is comparable if not more substantial than what other colleges of education exhibit on their pages.

All the best, Daniel

Update 7/28/2015

I understand there was a discussion about this page being deleted. That was 2.5 years ago, when the College of Education was operating with autonomy in digital space. I am the first web manager the COE has ever had, and I've been working for almost 2 years now just to stabilize our web and social identities. Wikipedia is now high on my list - would the appropriate procedure be for me to request undeletion of the original article?

Update 7/29/2015

Thank you, Graeme! You've been most informative and I appreciate your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trumpet4christ (talk • contribs) 15:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Trumpet4christ (talk) 16:50, 27 July 2015 (UTC)

Who said anything about 2010?

This article was deleted for stated reason on April 5, 2015. --Falcadore (talk) 07:34, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

How does any of this alter the fact that content and references of 90% of the article is copied from the 2016 article? --Falcadore (talk) 07:52, 28 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Bence Peter

Hi Graeme Bartlett, I wrote a short article about Peter on the draft site that you prepared. Am I allowed to move the draft into the main namespace? Or will you move it? Thank you and best regards, --NiTen (talk) 12:43, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Draft:Madura Kulatunga

Hi Graeme Bartlett, Currently this Draft have "Investigation of potential copyright issue". Therefore I rewrite this article at temporary subpage at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft_talk:Madura_Kulatunga/Temp Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.43.186.15 (talk) 13:50, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

You can rewrite this, but did you write the slguardian story as well? If you did so, you may be able to prove that you did. But rewriting is possible too. Acceptance has to overcome the AFD decision that happened before. Perhaps the writing about the person can go in the article about the dictionary. But no infringements are permitted. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:04, 29 July 2015 (UTC)

Hi Graeme Bartlett, Previous AFD decision at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Madura_Kulatunga happens due to poorly written article without any national newspaper source references. At that AFD decision time Wikipedia editors cannot verify details about subject "Madura Kulatunga". Because they don't have any English medium national newspaper articles about subject "Madura Kulatunga". In Sri Lanka only 6 English medium national newspaper publishers are available. Currently we have 5 out of 6 English medium National Newspaper publishers articles about subject "Madura Kulatunga". Subject "Madura Kulatunga" life story have educational value that suitable for Wikipedia. According to Wikipedia Notability guidelines subject "Madura Kulatunga" have WP:BASIC "significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources". And subject "Madura Kulatunga" have WP:CREATIVE "3. The person has created, or played a major role in co-creating, a significant or well-known work". Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.134.113.144 (talk) 03:10, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

Yes, it has a good change with those references. Are you or your company the writers of these articles? You have not made that clear yet, as it has a bearing on the copyright situation. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:13, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

"Madura’s moxie" (Sunday Observer) article is written by Anuradha Kodagoda. "Madura’s story" (The Nation) article is written by UD = Uditha Devapriya. "A humble success story Madura Kulatunga" (The Daily Mirror) written by Kamanthi Wickramasinghe. I will try to find other articles authors. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.134.113.144 (talk) 03:31, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

In that case copying is not allowed. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:41, 30 July 2015 (UTC)

New articles

Hello Graeme

You may want to look at Nitrogen dioxide poisoning and Chlorine gas poisoning. I left the talk page for you to also rate the article, although am planning to take it to GA level. Wikic¤l¤gy^{t@lk to M£} 21:08, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

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Jethro Jacob Candelon Zulueta

An IP editor requested that Jethro Jacob Candelon Zulueta be undeleted, and you were the admin who happened to respond to that request yesterday. A few hours ago, the IP editor then deleted the tags and notices and restored the bogus references that I reviewed last month [3]. I don't have much experience with these protocols, so I wanted to ask: Do we need to wait the whole week, or can we just put this to rest right now and redelete the article? Thanks —jameslucas (" " / +) 13:43, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

For BLP Prod we can wait for the time to be up, as little harm is caused. The reference that was there did not work. If you can demonstrate a hoax then we could speedy delete it. Instead I suspect it is a non notable person, but there is some sort of claim of importance. Though the team and league do not even have articles, so it sounds like a very minor player. Else an A7 speedy delete could apply. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:07, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

I agree with your assessment. Thanks. —jameslucas (" " / +) 02:09, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Request on 18:05:55, 3 August 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Abhi2434

• Abhi2434 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Insync (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Abhi2434 (talk) 18:05, 3 August 2015 (UTC) I have been editing the article APPSeCONNECT but have been published. Sorry for that, I am editing the post.

What do I have to do to have a page ungraded from Start?

A banner across the top of the Wikipedia page: Toby Lerner Ansin asks for more secondary and tertiary sources. I've added several since the banner appeared. Have those sufficiently improved the page? Please suggest what else I can do to upgrade the page. Thank you. Sanford1504 (talk) 19:48, 3 August 2015 (UTC)Sanford1504

Thank you for your clarifying and quick response

The Toby Lerner Ansin page is a work in progress. Your response confirms that I'm moving in the right direction, as my research continues and I add substantive and significant information about Ms. Ansin. Sanford1504 (talk) 01:12, 4 August 2015 (UTC)Sanford1504

A beer for you!

Richard Falkner (talk) 10:48, 4 August 2015 (UTC)

Some Further Help: Draft:SkillForce

Hey Graeme, you recently reviewed the SkillForce page, and left some helpful feedback regarding what would be needed to make the article read less like an advertisement - sorry for that -, I have since updated the article and was wondering if you could give it another glance before I submit it for review - I don't want to be wasting multiple admin's time by keep putting sub-par articles up for review? ElizabethAtSkillForce (talk) 08:04, 6 August 2015 (UTC)

Some Further Further Help: Draft:SkillForce

Hey Graeme, thank you for the helpful and speedy response, it is much appreciated. I am really struggling to get my head around the correct way to apply copyright tags to images. The pictures of the SkillForce staff members were given to me by my boss - I believe he was given them as a freebie from a photography studio down the road from his office-, and the ones of HRH Duke of Cambridge were taken from an internal newsletter I was sent. What would be the appropriate tags for these? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ElizabethAtSkillForce (talk • contribs) 10:28, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

The copyright is likely all rights reserved by the photographer. Unless the photographer has given written permission, or done it as part of an employment or other contract they own all rights, and reproduction is prohibited. You will have to get the written permission from the photographer to release the staff member images under the CC-BY-SA-3.0 license (or similar perhaps version 4.0). Then the procedure at WP:PERMIT is to be followed. Otherwise the photographer can upload their own images and release rights. It may be easier for you to take pictures yourself. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:23, 7 August 2015 (UTC)

FYI

Thanks for your comment posted on https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion&diff=prev&oldid=670044723

However allow me to notify you of what did user:Vituzzu about the removal of the article "Romano-Berber states" and other well written articles, that even received Barnstars. Please read: manmer2.blogspot.com/2015/08/onomaticus-case-of-lack-of-justice.html , or to get more information on him please go to [4] and click on Manmer2015 ....

Sincerely, B — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.134.179.242 (talk) 16:05, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

So the thesis here is that Onomaticus is not the same person as Brunodam. In that case then it would be Onomaticus that could appeal the block. Another user can volunteer to take responsibility for the Berber articles, and if they do so I am happy to restore them. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:37, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Citation Barnstar
	For the help you gave me with the extremely tedious work with citations in the Serpens FAC, you deserve this barnstar. StringTheory11 (t • c) 15:48, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

Please review Toby Lerner Ansin page again

I would love to see the banner stating that I've used too many primary sources removed, because I've removed many of them and added many reliable secondary sources, such as The New Yorker magazine, The Miami Herald and other South Florida papers, and The New York Times. I welcome your review and comments. Thank you. Sanford1504 (talk) 21:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC) Sanford1504

Thank you

I see that the banner was removed yesterday. Thank you. And thank you for your explicit and very helpful guidance. Without question the narrative and sourcing are considerably stronger now. Sanford1504 (talk) 15:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)Sanford1504

Over 9000

Hi,

Can you userfy both the full history and talk page to myspace? Valoem ^{talk contrib} 03:14, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

@Valoem: now at User:Valoem/Over 9000. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:35, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

5-Tiles

Thank you for positively reviewing my article. It seems the correct writing is indeed 5-TILES instead of 5-Tiles. Would you please move it? FYI: I'm not sure I will come back to this discussion page. 213.209.66.223 (talk) 05:31, 14 August 2015 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Fleece pants

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I had not created this, but since you complain, I have deleted it and created it again. For this someone other than the creator had blanked the page and then it was deleted by G7, but G7 did not apply. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:43, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

My apologies. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 22:10, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

radio frequency

	radio frequency
	hi greame..still waiting for your response in reference desk for Radio frequency..regards Seekhle (talk) 10:10, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Howard Wiest DYK

Thanks for the review. Apparently you missed this obituary which explicitly says he had no formal college training in the law. "Without the benefit of a college legal training, Wiest rose from a youthful steamfitters job and became known as one of the unique characters of Michigan jurisprudence." "Associate Justice of Michigan Dies: Wiest Was Oldest Member of State's Highest Tribunal". Ironwood Daily Globe. Ironwood, Michigan. September 17, 1945. p. 2. Retrieved August 10, 2015. 7&6=thirteen (☎) 10:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC

Thank you

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for the contribution you made to the Bismuth(III) acetate page I started. I didn't even know the "Salts and the ester of the Acetate ion" box you added to the page existed! I'm a new editor and I still find it exciting to be working with everybody. Thanks again! Lukejodonnell (talk) 15:51, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

@Lukejodonnell: That was only a small change. It is not surprising that you did not know of the template, as I had just created it before adding to all the inorganic acetate articles. If you would like some other periodic table based templates made up for other anions you can suggest them. I have built them for sulfates, and perchlorates. But the idea to have this sort of thing was not mine in the first place as it was based on template:nitrates, and the Template:Carbonates also exists. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:38, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Equilibrium-arrow symbols

Great set of articles on the methylboranes! There is a special arrow symbol for chemical equilibrium reactions, a stack of two half-arrows with one pointing in each direction. {{eqm}} is the template form of it for inline text. There are also ways to do it with LaTeX if you are doing more complex typsetting. I fixed it in trimethyldiborane as an example. I'm not sure how accessible the template form is (it's a graphics/icon that is sized to look best at wikipedia's standard text), but would love to improve it to be more usable if you have any ideas. DMacks (talk) 17:53, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Is there a unicode character for this? I would prefer that as it can be copied and pasted as is, instead of using an image. It could be boosted in size, as I think the → is too small too. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:49, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you and request

Thanks for creating the new Conduit Inc. article.

I added another comment to the bottom of the Talk page of the existing article. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Conduit_%28publisher_network_and_platform%29#Request_for_Major_Revision_to_Reflect_Sale_of_Most_of_the_Business

As I spent a lot of time with the original article, I see it is full of WP:NPOV, WP:V and WP:NOR violations and has turned some of the article into an attack piece. My review of the Talk section shows two admin prevented many, many attempts to insert attacks, mostly based on WP:OR from people who didn't like the software and cited to online forums, etc. to get their opinion into the article. (At one point it was a protected article for this reason.) But it's all been put back in again in ways I make clear in my Talk comment. Many other mistakes, too, such as including facts about a different company with a similar name.

Do you have time to also look at these issues? As long as I spent the time to try to sort it all out, I might as well contribute to the improvement of this article, too. (Plus it needs to be renamed, I think, to reflect the new owner?)

I'd be pleased to go into more detail if necessary. Or I can ask someone else to take a look if you don't have time.

Thank you,

EdBC1278 (talk) 22:33, 19 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278

Conduit Inc. article proposed for speedy deletion

Hi,

User: Grump International has proposed the new Conduit (company) article (he renamed it), be proposed for speedy deletion. Would you mind engaging with this editor to discuss?

I don't think the editor has any idea that you created it as a new entry or that it was split off from another article, where as you may have seen, 90% of the content was copied almost verbatim. I added updated info on the company's acquisition. I deleted some information about the toolbar where I think sources didn't meet WP:V. But I left in criticisms about the root kit capabilities and uninstall issues because these had reliable sources. I write for Wikipedia all the time, with my real name in my user profile, and don't want to get a reputation for engaging in paid advocacy because it would make it impossible for me to contribute long term.

Most of the new article's language is just lifted from the old entry, contributed by many editors over the years and reviewed extensively by two other Wikipedia English language admins, Diannaa and Jeremy112233

While it's certainly fine for User: Grump Internationalor anyone else to improve the article or ask me to suggest new language or sources to improve it, suggesting it should be speedily deleted means it doesn't meet WP:NOT and is written like a news release. This was the largest Internet company in Israel and one of only very few Internet companies around the world to ever hit billion dollar valuation. Company profiles by Wall Street Journal, the Economist, the Financial Times, Forbes, etc, etc.

I believe the user is being unduly influenced by my disclosing I have a WP:COI - but I follow WP policies as closely as I can, so I always disclose and won't make direct edits.

As I'm sure you know, only a tiny percentage of COI editor ever disclose because they are met with such hostility. It's a shame because COI editing takes place whether disclosed or not. Disclosure gives other editors the chance to review work for bias before it's made live, which is a great idea. But it won't work if even very careful work is rejected by hostile editors. I talk to skeptical companies in the tech industry about this all the time -- I urge them to disclose and not make direct edits.

Any help you can offer with the speedy deletion nomination would be greatly appreciated. BC1278 (talk) 22:46, 20 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278

I don't see any speedy delete tag. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:50, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

You're right, he's used - news release|1=article|date=August 2015 - saying the article reads like a news release, may be blatant advertising, and should be moved to Wikinews or nominated for speedy deletion. So the step before speedy deletion. I don't think he has any idea it was split off from another article or that 90% of the content comes from that article. I think it's an unfair slam and will lead him or another editor to removing it. I made sure everything was reliably sourced, did my best on neutral language and posted to Sandbox so it could be reviewed before any of it was made live. I would gladly address any specific item anyone wanted to change, but I think this tag challenging the premise of the whole article should be removed. The company is just too prominent and the sourcing too strong.BC1278 (talk) 23:13, 20 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278.

Perhaps the style of writing in the article looks like a newsrelease as it might have been written by someone who has written many news releases before. This is primarily a complaint about the style of writing, so it might have to be written more like an encyclopedia entry. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:17, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Again 90% of the article was written by a whole array of editors over five years. I tried my best not to change the writing wherever possible so I wouldn't step on other editors work. I took from the Talk section that a couple of admins had been keeping an eagle eye on the whole article before it became overrun by attacks. I've never written a news release before, if that's what you're suggesting. I don't work for a PR firm and never have. You can read more about me at User:BC1278. I was a journalist for 20 years and an academic. Now I work in the tech industry where I have many friends who come to me because I know more than them about Wikipedia policies, since they know nothing. It's very hard to respond to generalizations here. I'd be happy to take it back to Sandbox if you or the other editor would discuss a few sentences. I've tried to write very flatly. The same tone has earned me B-class articles before. There is no flowery or showy or peacocky language that I can identify. If you can identify anything like that, please let me know and I will suggest rewording.

If there's superfluous content, it's because I didn't want to remove anything well sourced that other editors had put in over the years - I'm trying not to step on toes of other editors. For example, I'd remove the sentences "In 2010 Conduit then-president Adam Boyden was featured in Forbes.com, discussing the link between successful social gaming and marketing principles." but it was in the original and well sourced. BC1278 (talk) 23:36, 20 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278

Nintendo Life

Can you please userfy both the full history of the page and the talk page. I'll add sources this should have never been deleted. Valoem ^{talk contrib} 00:53, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

@Valoem: see User:Valoem/Nintendo Life. In its history there are bigger versions as this was created 3 times. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:21, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Hey can you also userfy Adaptoid plus talk page for me? Valoem ^{talk contrib} 09:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

@Valoem:  Done see User:Valoem/Adaptoid. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:42, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

User talk:Daniel Case#DYK_2

Hey Graeme, would you mind taking care of these DYKs I had planned? I asked Daniel Case but he seems rather busy and it'd be nice to have taken care as soon as possible. Thanks! SwisterTwister talk 06:17, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

John Momoh

hey Graeme, i wanna edit this page but I need to ask the question about association. i know this guy because he owns a major TV station but not personally. Can I still edit and expand his page? there is already a COI tag on it. Wikicohen (talk) 22:42, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Graeme, I dont get paid for wiki, I just do it for interest and this Omololu-Olunloyo is my first successful article. Pls check that #24 inclusion I just found on her arrest and deportation. that should be appropriate. Am I good to go on this article? I need to write about John Mommoh and the Death of Ephraim Brown, a big one. Right now the article wizard is my safest bet. Thanks. Gimme a feedback on that #24

Wikicohen (talk) 22:57, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo Warrants in Georgia

I have an issue with a new edit which states "as of this writing her charges in Georgia have not been resolved." there is no reliable source proving that on a 2009 article. She was obviously not extradited from Canada and to my knowledge in the Georgia wanted fugitive database, the charges may have been dropped as her name is no longer in them. I think it may be libelous and should be left out of the article if it's not sourced. I have done some extensive research on her son, the autistic one she wrote about. This was a juvenile case that cannot be discussed and allegedly sexual abuse involved with her other child according to the autistic one's instagram postings. This child was 16 at the time and now almost 29 so there is a possibility the case was dropped. There is no reliable source supporting "as of this writing" Only way to do that is to contact authorities over there or cite an article proving so. Pls address this issue. I dont have a COI with this case, I have just studied it extensively. Wikicohen (talk) 08:34, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

I just thought about something. Those writings as u said were 2009 and not 2015.>>>I reworded this as this. As of this 2009 writings the warrants for her arrest in the United States is still unresolved.[14][15] Is it OK? Also her name was edited correctly by another user.

Wikicohen (talk) 08:54, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

The "as of 2009" sounds good to me as it matches the source. "as of this writing" is inappropriate. If there is no source, and it can't be found then remove it. Instagram posts by people will not be counted as a reliable source in this case. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:36, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

allow me to clear this up please, http://www.newtonsheriffga.org/PDF/WARROUT_defendant8-14-2015.pdf search the document for Olunloyo, you will see that she used the Alias "ashley" when she was living in the United States, you will ALSO see her LEGAL name is Olukemi Olunloyo. she has 4 outstanding surperior bench warrants for her arrest. this is a valid reference as per SJO's approval. Shawn aka 70.26.73.164 (talk) 02:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Assistance with NPOV on Conduit

Will you assist me with a section by section review of Conduit (company) to address any concerns with WP:NPOV? I have tried to engage User: Grump International, who made the challenge, with the same request but they have not replied. Further research suggests this account is a sock puppet, as I think you surmised by looking at it yourself. The user simultaneously raised challenges to the related entries Ronen Shilo, Conduit (company) and Perion Network. The prior two (thinking of Conduit as the original article) have come under repeated attacks over the past few years and had to be protected by admins.

In any case, I'd like to fix any NPOV issues now, while my attention is still focused on this article. I've only added a or re-worded a few sentences, which I'll point out. The rest comes from the original Conduit (publisher network and platform)

The first section is the intro and I did re-word it from material in the entry. Do you see any NPOV problems with it?

Conduit is a software developer that offers mobile apps and mobile loyalty programs for small businesses, under the brand name "Como".

It became the largest Internet company in Israel before it spun off its sometimes controversial website toolbar business in 2013 into the Perion Network, a publicly-traded NASDAQ company.

I can move this discussion to the Talk section of Conduit (company) if that's better.

BC1278 (talk) 00:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278

Copying over to Talk on Conduit (company). BC1278 (talk) 15:24, 24 August 2015 (UTC)BC1278

Shawn (redacted) Outing himself and posting libelous edits

Graeme, pls help me with this problem. This fellow should be blocked from editing this page. He is talking to me as if I am Ms O-O. says he "helped me get deported" etc. claims Ms O-O is not a Pharmacist and says her license got revoked. These are serious allegations and extremely libelous. Shawn according to Toronto Police is the same Shawn (redacted) convicted of stalking Ms O-O in Canada? Outing is not allowed on Wikipedia but he is posting potentially libelous things. Claims he has Kemi's birth certificate and people dont post such things online. Kemi's name is not Ajoke or Ashley. These are allegedly "broadcast professional" names in Nigeria and USA. He has proof of her outstanding warrants still valid on a website that may not be updated. Wikipedia requires editors to avoid conflicts of interest. He should limit slanderous items calling her a credential fraudster and saying she lost her license by poisoning a child. He has a COI in this article and seems that he's proven to know her by claiming he has her birth certificate and got her deported and should not be editing this page. I told this to Sjo at the beginning of this article. I am trying to finish up this articles with photos by asking you about wikimedia issues but this wikistalker is getting ridiculous. He is using two IP addresses. Wikicohen (talk) 19:26, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

Basically kemi is trying to create a false flag resume on wikipedia, in Nigeria wikipedia is very popular and I believe she might be trying to use the service to add credit to her statements in forums and twitter replies,. if you googled the subject Kemi Olunloyo you can see there is a very large amount of fake pages and "credentials" posted online, she used to use these to falsify her employment credentials to get into high profile events, what kemi is basically going to do next is start posting pictures of herself with celebrities in the USA and Canada to gain high profile employment positions in Nigerian Media stations, the same things she did when she was in Canada, just a little backstory on that. again apologies for this back and forth. She might be getting upset about all this because of that. Shawn aka 70.26.73.164 (talk) 03:23, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Here is what was posted on my talk page

Sorry kemi but I hope you didn't think you could lie all over wikipedia and get away with it did you? please post correct and factual sources in your wiki page or I will have to remove them, thank you - Shawn 70.26.73.164 (talk) 16:26, 22 August 2015 (UTC) Wikicohen (talk) 19:34, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

as you can see Graeme, unfortunately she believes I am someone else, she has a habit of painting a dramatic story to get what she wants, I will leave this up to you. please review Wikicohen's recent edits on her biography page, I attempted to add a reference to her outstanding warrants in Newton Georgia using a link that was referenced by SJO himself, I didn't know it would cause all these problems. Shawn aka 70.26.73.164 (talk) 02:48, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

Please have the discussion at Talk:Kemi Omololu-Olunloyo, and I will join in there. A reminder for those who have a conflict of interest to announce it on their user page. So anyone editing on behalf of Kemi should certainly note it there. Also if you are trying to sell a book about her I suppose that too is worth a mention. For people editing with IP I suggest that you register. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 03:29, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

AFD Redirect undone?

Hi there, can you or User:Nick-D explain why you undid the AFD outcome of redirect for Bruce Hall (Australian National University), that you did here with the edit summary of "demerge triggered by edits of Nick-D" [5]? The talk page is still classed as a redirect, which is how I found it. Thanks The-Pope (talk) 01:43, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

The reason was that the article was merged, but then someone removed the merged content, so I reinstated the content int he article. The AFD could perhaps be appealed as Bruce Hall (Australian National University) was only added to the AFD at a later point and never tagged with an AFD notice. So most of the votors only considered the merits on one of the residence halls. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:00, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Ricardo Alfonso Cerna

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?action=view&page=Ricardo_Alfonso_Cerna&type=delete

15:05, May 30, 2015 Graeme Bartlett (talk | contribs) restored page Ricardo Alfonso Cerna (155 revisions restored: userfication requested by Valoem)

Why the page is still in article space? AFAIK userfication is moving to user space. - üser:Altenmann >t 15:31, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Because of this entry: "06:25, 2 June 2015‎ Valoem (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (4,998 bytes) (0)‎ . . (Valoem moved page User:Valoem/Ricardo Alfonso Cerna to Ricardo Alfonso Cerna: added multiple sources and updated information)".[6] Check the changes since the previous AFD to see if article has addressed the issues raised. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 22:03, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

Request on 14:06:52, 26 August 2015 for assistance on AfC submission by Kenbloom01

• Kenbloom01 (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Blue Monday - Kickoff for National Men's Health Week (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi Graeme, I am struggling with how to improve this submission for acceptance - Blue Monday: Kickoff for National Men's Health Week

https://www.google.com/search?as_eq=wikipedia&q=%22Blue+Monday+-+Kickoff+for+National+Men%26%2339%3Bs+Health+Week%22&num=50

It keeps getting rejected for notability and I can't figure out why. I've added references from several independent media sources in multiple states that have promoted and covered the event. Blue Monday is recognized by state governments and covered by multiple media sources. I am respectfully requesting assistance to improve this submission so that it is published. Thank you in advance for your help.

Kenbloom01 (talk) 14:06, 26 August 2015 (UTC)