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culture of Lebanon
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Temple of Eshmun
Thanks, you beat me to it. You might want to see his talk page. Dougweller (talk) 18:24, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
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Love the music, mate! And I'm already cleaning up their article! WikiEditorial101 (talk) 13:09, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
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"Lebanese people of Maronite descent" to "Lebanese people of Maronite Christian descent"
I made the renaming because I believe that "Lebanese people of Maronite descent" creates the impression that the Maronites are an ethnic group separated from the Lebanese people like in the case "Lebanese people of Armenian descent". (The Armenians were forced to immigrate to present-day Lebanon after the 1915 Armenian genocide in contrast to the Lebanese people native to the Lebanese territory, ex. Maronites, Shiites, and Sunnites) And to quote your opinion, which I fully support: "There is no Maronite ethnicity and Pierre Zalloua's research on the Phoenician haplogroup disproves this claim as it shows that Lebanese of all denominations are heterogeneous." That is why I believed and still believe that "Lebanese people of Maronite Christian descent" should be used instead to emphasize that the Maronites are Christian religious group within the Lebanese people. Also, I wanted to make categories "Lebanese people of Shiite Muslim descent", "Lebanese people of Sunnite Muslim descent", and so on to make the point that is supported by "Pierre Zalloua's research on the Phoenician haplogroup disproves this claim as it shows that Lebanese of all denominations are heterogeneous." (Final note. Also, the wrong impression that the Maronites are different ethnic group from the Lebanese ethnic group could be emphasized by the following: I even had to add the template "WikiProject Lebanon" in all Maronite categories, check example Category talk:Uruguayan Maronites.) MyNewAccountName (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
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Temple of Eshmun
Hi, I saw the edit on the above article and returned it to the anon's edit. It shows on the talk page that the correct era for the article is the BC convention and this was wrongly changed by a user named mdcar7 who used the account purely for switching several articles to the BCE system. According to the WP:MOS it is to stay as the original format.--Mevagiss (talk) 11:25, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Hey @Mevagiss:, MoS reads " Do not change the established era style in an article unless there are reasons specific to its content". I did not see how the unregistered user's edits could improve on the article. when i wrote the article i used AD system for eras until someone suggested changing them DURING the featured article Evaluation process and i dont recall who it was but it was unanimously accepted then. Why would mdcar7 switch AD to Current era system? what could be his motives? Thanks -Elias Z 15:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Actually i was mistaken, this happened during the GA nomination process, the eras were switched to BCE/CE before FA nomination and were stable since. no mention of it here, but it was Al Ameer Son who suggested the change here. -Elias Z 15:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Elie, in response to your question at my talk page: there is no unwritten rule regarding era formats that I'm aware of. Looking back at my suggestion in '09, I appear to be incorrect in suggesting that the MoS prefers the common era to the traditional BC/AD format. The MoS doesn't care which is used as long as it remains consistent throughout the article. It also suggests that if either of the dating systems has been used in a particular article for a while, then it shouldn't be changed unless there's good reason to. That being said, the BCE/CE format has been used in the Temple of Eshmun article since I made the suggestion in '09 (that's about seven years now), so my question to @Mevagiss: is why should it be changed to BC/AD now? To me, and apparently to Elie as well, the BCE/CE format is preferable because it's more secular than the Christianity-centric BC/AD format, which I believe is particularly important considering that the article in question is a Middle Eastern/Lebanon-related subject and the Middle East/Lebanon contain a multitude of religions besides Christianity. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:16, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- I'm gonna wait for his reply for a couple of days; if I don't hear from him I'll revert it to the common era style for the reasons stated above. And I hope he doesn't engage in the reverting game for a silly and non deserving couple of edits the way he did with @Trekphiler: -Elias Z 06:41, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Elie, in response to your question at my talk page: there is no unwritten rule regarding era formats that I'm aware of. Looking back at my suggestion in '09, I appear to be incorrect in suggesting that the MoS prefers the common era to the traditional BC/AD format. The MoS doesn't care which is used as long as it remains consistent throughout the article. It also suggests that if either of the dating systems has been used in a particular article for a while, then it shouldn't be changed unless there's good reason to. That being said, the BCE/CE format has been used in the Temple of Eshmun article since I made the suggestion in '09 (that's about seven years now), so my question to @Mevagiss: is why should it be changed to BC/AD now? To me, and apparently to Elie as well, the BCE/CE format is preferable because it's more secular than the Christianity-centric BC/AD format, which I believe is particularly important considering that the article in question is a Middle Eastern/Lebanon-related subject and the Middle East/Lebanon contain a multitude of religions besides Christianity. --Al Ameer (talk) 19:16, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
- Well done for keeping an eye on this article. However there are several incorrect assertions above. It is not difficult to scan the article's history. The article not only did not use BCE format, it only used the AD one; Al Ameer did suggest switching the era usage and the talk page shows that this was opposed by 2 editors, so it did not happen. In this edit [[1]] a user MDCarr57 (whose account was only used to change era conventions) changed all of the BC etc. to BCE. Nobody questioned or reverted this edit which was done without explanation in the edit summary. Kindly don't attack me by describing my contributions as silly. I am following the correct WP policies.--Mevagiss (talk) 09:19, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Whatever you say. I'm not starting a war over this and I still think your edit was pure nitpicking. Happy new year. -Elias Z 09:31, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Actually i was mistaken, this happened during the GA nomination process, the eras were switched to BCE/CE before FA nomination and were stable since. no mention of it here, but it was Al Ameer Son who suggested the change here. -Elias Z 15:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
Yusuf Karam-Tanyus Shahin
Hey Elie. I noticed you significantly contributed to the Yusuf Karam page. I was wondering if you had any information/sources about the battle/conflict between Karam and Tanyus Shahin that took place after the 1860 civil war. I nominated the article about Shahin for GA recently and was hoping to find more info (and a free image) about him after the civil war, with little luck other than this snippet: [2]. --Al Ameer (talk) 06:58, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- @Al Ameer son: I'm afraid it will be a couple of days before I get back home but I reckon I have something by Kamal Salibi. I will let you know as soon as I can. I'll try a quick search from the office too. Oh and mind you the Yusuf Karam article is very mythologized, last time I checked it I did not like the tone of it and I got an angry message from one of the editors when I tried to make it reflect reality. -Elias Z 07:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- My mistake. Maybe we can take a crack at editing the Karam article at some point in the near future if our schedules allow. As for Shahin's article, thank you, any additional information is appreciated. --Al Ameer (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- Nope, not much luck, only found this for now: Farah, Ceasar E. (2000). Politics of Interventionism in Ottoman Lebanon, 1830-1861. I.B.Tauris. p. 676. ISBN 9781860640568. Retrieved 31 December 2015.. Most writers just barely mention him. Concerning the Yusuf Karam article I don't see how this can be your mistake. There is an active Youssef Beik Karam committee whose sole business is to spread this kind of propagandist, essay-like articles. I fear the natives of the North will take personal offence if we try to include works of academic hisotorians. -Elias Z 08:06, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
- My mistake. Maybe we can take a crack at editing the Karam article at some point in the near future if our schedules allow. As for Shahin's article, thank you, any additional information is appreciated. --Al Ameer (talk) 07:46, 31 December 2015 (UTC)
@Al Ameer son: I've littered your talk page enough, I'm gonna post relevant ideas here. I found this book, the snippets read (
- P337 "missive #73; general de Beaufort reconciles Karam with Tanios Chahine..." (
- p.389 "... incidents in [the] Keserwan between Tanios Chahine and youssef Karam. Karam has difficulties running the Christian Qaimakamat; Beirut 24 MArch 1861..."
- p.390 "...Karam to Shefer concerning voices against his tenure. 26 March 1861. Missive from Shefer to Thouvenel; armed conflict between Karam and Tanios Chahine, the latter eloped. Taxes collected without difficulty. The Turkish authorities try to take advantage of the situation.".
- p.401 " Reconciliation of Karam and Tanios Chahine in the presence of the general. 12 April 1861 "
- I believe the initial role of Chahine as Sheikh Shabab should be clear before he became Wakil. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 21:01, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
now this is interesting we can now piece it together i think
- p.40 documents prove that Chahine was not only in contact but an accomplice of the Ottomans.
- p.43 " ... to return the Sheikhs [khazens] properties, starting with Tanios Chahine who declared that if the Khazens return to the Mountain [Mount Lebanon possibly from Beirut where they were forced] then the peasants and himself would convert to protestantism."
- Thanks for the info. Yes, I think together with the snippet source I cited above [3] (which I can explore more) we could piece together the events of Shahin's life following the civil war. As for his role as sheikh shabab, I mentioned it in the "Early life and character" section, but maybe it's worth mentioning again in the "Leader of peasant's revolt" section. --Al Ameer (talk) 21:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
- p. 95 talks about the episode where Chahine did not march on Zahle.
- p. 211 i suppose it's about Karam: "Immediately after his nomination, he saw the defiance of Tanios Chahine _the leader of the men of Keserwan_ who is a friend of General de Beaufort and who thought he could take use of the French expeditionary corps." ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 21:28, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
[4] p.1527: "...the leader of the peasant revolt Tanios Chahine under his authority. Did he have the intention to arrest him and deliver him to the Ottomans? No one could tell. Chahine had refused to meet with Karam during a religious ceremony in which the Maronite patriarch should have participated. He demanded a written guarantee assuring him that his "liberty will be respected" as a condition for turning up.
- p.157 "Hattoumi (page 90 of his work on the Keserwan)relays a conversation he had with Chahine where he told him that it was the Pasha (Khurshid) who was behind the peasant movement. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 21:40, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
I tried to piece it together at the "Later life" section until we get more info. Please add anything that's missing or make the necessary corrections, including the chronology of events. --Al Ameer (talk) 05:11, 2 January 2016 (UTC) P.S. I just realized this, but the source I cited above is a snippet of Yehoshua Porath's work "The Peasant Revolt of 1858–61 in Kisrawan", which is apparently the most detailed study of that revolt and Shahin's role throughout. I'm going to try to get hold of it. --Al Ameer (talk) 05:40, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
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Maronite Church
I'm not sure I can entirely take credit for those paragraphs. The first was moved up from History for better organization; the second and third were imported from Maron, as they did not seem pertinent to a biography. My contributions are thus far largely a bit of copyediting, and material sourced from El-Hayek. Mannanan51 (talk) 21:01, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
Greater Lebanon
Hi Elie plus.! Why you revert my humble contribution on Greater Lebanon I understand you do this in good faith. Please confirm that what I wrote are the historic facts. Since I made a acurate investigation of historical facts in books of the time. It all can be read in many books, in arab and english language. The pourpose is to have a acurated description of the historical events so readers get a reliable source of information. for that I was congratulated for my contribution by other members like: Hindustanilanguage and I responded thanking him for motivation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Hindustanilanguage But you are reverting all my work, based on what? because facts are confirmed in my work. I apreciate that after you confirm the facts on good faith you revert to my contribution, Thank you Elie Plus Respectufly Trinity Abbey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trinity Abbey (talk • contribs) 09:26, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
The Fist official flag, The Cedar Tree, The Greater Leban, The French Mandate
Is true Elie it was used during the mandate and it is true that the Lebanon nation state did exist at the time. After the first world war ended Elie, as it was decided at the Paris Peace Talks and signed at the Versalles Treaty. Together with Iraq, Syria, and Jordan Lebanon was proclaimed as nation state in 1919 »[6]
French mandate for Syria and Lebanon had its own Flag »[7] In a historical document Mokarzel ask France Prime Minister President to accept to have a first official flag and code of arms to promote the Lebanese newly formed nation state unity. It reads Flag of Lebanon during the French Mandate.»[8] It was necessary at the time to ask diplomatically all countries postal service to mail name to Lebanon, not Syria as they requested. Since it causes loss of identity in favor to a neighbor that wanted Lebanon territory. Simple things cause big difference in history. I am not asking for credits. I did this to lead readers to knowledge. That is why in my fist communication I respectfully ask you to first check the facts before reverting because in my opinion accuracy of the history is of great importance, it generates unity, for that many people in the Middle East and migrants spread all over America give their money and others their life for a dream they call the greater Lebanon. You wrote to me that is not necessary in articles such as the one about cedars. But this is of great importance. Cedars is the back bone of the Lebanon independence. After the Versalles Treaty, Naoum A. Mokarzel, for years and after his dead his brother Saloum Mokarzel travel to all allied countries with the good faith present of a Cedar Tree to the head of States. These trees, now splendidly grown in to magnificent grandeur of the Lebanese people can be seen in their official residences; it was a sample of friendship and their moral support to protect Lebanon against other powers. This is one great thing about historical knowledge, simple things for others are of great importance. My motivation is precisely the fact that there is not enough accurate information about Lebanon quest for freedom. That is why persons don’t know the facts about when it was proclamed a nation state, is its first official flag, etc. My contributions are acurate Elie, but you reverted not only in the Cedars, that before you read this, you consider it was not related, but you reverted all my works about Lebanon history and of course it is very demotivating after making years of investigative work where is no enough accurate information in the internet but in books, to contribute with real facts. Congratulated by ones and reverted by others. No matter its accuracy, many or all members can revert works, is an easy thing it can become a never ending game. Contribute with real facts lost in Arab books, that is another story. So in the purpose of good faith, in a quest to give knowledge. If after you read this and you confirm the veracity of what I respectfully contribute, please revert my work. Acording to his own life, knowledge talent, etc. people have different styles, so if in your opinion, there is a mistake in form Elie, please contribute help me and use that experience you have to solve it. But don’t waist my work effort to contribute with knowledge, so people will know simple historical facts as: When Lebanon was a Nation State recognized by all the countries, who signed that; Lebanon first official flag, its first official crest of arms, The importance of the Cedar Tree; The Greater Leban, The French Mandate, etc. so there is national pride growth. Respectfuly Trinity Abbey --Trinity Abbey (talk) 11:07, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
![[8]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Flag_of_Lebanon_during_French_Mandate_(1920-1943).svg){kind=link}
It sounds great Edie I really appreciate it.!
I have irrefutable historical sources; I will include the links your advice. Is was not easy to find, much information is in old books, some in Arabic language, very few are in the internet and the information is overwhelming for the normal reader to find the quote. Information was lost, much happen during World war I & II, on things that produced the formation of the Middle East modern States. That has been very complicated to keep the peace in place. There are books by late prestigious university professors. University of Minnesota, the University of North Carolina etc. and other recognized organizations have great programs of the Lebanese Immigration and all about the Mokarzel family, their obstacles, projects for the Greater Lebanon. »[9] About Naoum A. Mokarzel quest for historical quest and their achievements to better their mother land and his death. »[10] Woodrow Wilson (Wilson Center) has a program but it only refers this as a reference. »[11] Salloum A. Mokarzel »[12] Al-Hoda & Syrian World»[13]»[14] it was the only institution at the time. This programs are working but taken years. This Wikipedia link»[15] like the youtube link I included it gives a didactically easy to understand idea of the time and circumstances. The information to be seen in there was disclosed according to The New York Times articles own references.»[16] »[17] I remain for your kind advice, Respectfully --Trinity Abbey (talk) 00:27, 16 January 2016 (UTC)
Mokarzel life achivementes are interesting and incredible Edie
In the 1920, Naoum A. Mokarzel life achievement where known by all Lebanese people in Middle East and its immigrants spread in the world. Since he was his champion. this people died, new generations of Lebanese people now don’t know the history, is known by studied scholars, universities, etc. he has one of the most interesting life history. Any of his many achievements are incredible. He achieved impossible things. With his many social, cultural and political organizations and the Al-Hoda daily newspaper, Mokarzel rallied and organized humanitarian help for Europe and the Middle East as he promoted among his followers support for and by the French. Grateful to the Lebanese support during World War I and the hard times in Europe, French President Poncaire committed to their cause a letter addressed to Naoum Mokarzel which was published in the last months of the war by the New York Times on July 27, 1918. “Please transmit to the league of Syrians and Lebanese of America my warm thanks for the sentiments which they have addressed to France and for their attachments to the associations which unite them to us by so many imperishable souvenirs and confident hope. Also assure them that their interest and their rights are as dear and as sacred to us as ever” French President Raymond Poincare. »[18] Imagine today publish in the New York Times. The fact is that Mokarzel help the wold power head of States in their needs in hard times of war, to gain support for his dream of forming a Nation for the Lebanese people. That is why he won over Faisal at the end of the World War I at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference. On occasion the Greek Orthodox Bishop priest Raphael Hawaweeny got in a feud against Mokarzel because he supported the Maronite, using one of Mokarzel publications where there was no mention of him, his church, the Greek, the Orthodox etc. the bishop got the people in his church against Mokarzel, it got out of control and with a group of people and went to find Mokarzel outside his home at 1:00 am someone shot a friend of Mokarzel, that went to help him since they learn about the bishop plans, when they fly the scene, a person got stop by a police man, this person had a gun, he was the bishop Raphael Hawaweeny, who claim he did not know how to use the gun. There was a trial all the media attention the New York times, etc. the bishop is now Saint Raphael of Brooklyn America most important Greek Orthodox saint.! »[19] There are so many fantastic historical achievements; Mokarzel legaly fought against US inmigration and won to get Syrians entrance to the US. in a trial call whiter than white he paid Daw trial to help all Syrians. »[20] and Mokarzel did the same in Canada, Brazil and Mexico immigration to help his people. Just after the Versailles Treaty. Immigration policy in Mexico got hard on Lebanese with the change of political power brought on by its revolution. Attacks on prominent immigrants and the Arabic Press began; The fact that Mexican President Alvaro Obregon political rival and succeeding President was General Plutarco Elias Calles, of Lebanese descent, resulted in policies to limit political power of the Lebanese immigrants. To protect the rights of the Syrian-Lebanese, including himself the Al Jawater Editor asked for Naoum Mokarzel’s intervention; For that political reasons Mr. Joseph Helou, was accused of a false charge. Mokarzel send urgent telegram to Mexican President Obregon on behalf of Jose Helou and the Syrian Lebanese immigrants. Mexican President did not respond, so Mokarzel Traveled to Mexico from France, invested Mr. Joseph Helou, who had a unfounded arrest warrant on his behalf, president for Latin America Lebanese immigrants assotiation. According to Mexico official records, two months after Naoum Mokarzel visit Mexico to appoint Jose Helou, as on Sept 25, 1922 the Mexican President responded a letter to Naoum Mokarzel: “Wished all Syrian-Lebanese immigrants would make Mexico their second patria” General Presidente Alvaro Obregon »[21] After Mr. Helou his son in law followed with Mokarzel quest for Lebanon, for decades and later after Mokarzel dead with Saloum Mokarzel, he was Mr. Joseph Salim, in Mexico naturalized Julián Slim Haddad. If this story is not incredible, Mr. Helou, is the grand father and Mr. Slim is the father of Forbes No. 1 Carlos Slim Helou. Mokarzel made the new Arab alphabet, to be able to adapt linotypes to Arabic language making the first Arabic language printing press and making possible digital writing for Arabic language for computers, etc. unmeasurable benefit to the Arab culture. On June 18–23, 1913 at the Société de Géographie, 184 Boulevard Saint-Germain Paris, France Nahum Mokarzel participated in the founding assembly of The Arab National Congress, established by 25 official Arab Nationalists delegates to discuss desired reforms to grant Arabs more autonomy under the Ottoman Empire. »[22] The whole Congress declared itself ready to struggle to bring the Arab Nation into being by means of revolution. Although Naoum Mokarzel stared cautiously by saying that: “The Revolution must be literary and reformist”, he continued more aggressively “only the last resort should it be bloody, because the political systems of free nations have been constructed by martyrs and not with printers ink.” »[www.amazon.com/Arab-Nationalism-Between-Islam-Nation-State/dp/0312162863/ref=wl_it_dp_o_npd?ie=UTF8&coliid=I2HL5XJRTDJ9J7&colid=1GGYTSFVBC74S»] For national unity, us very important to Lebanese new generations to lean about this people sacrifice the great and incredible achievements. and latter after his dead his example was followed by his brother Naoum Mokarzel and his achievements are incredible. Include all this Edie, there is much more, where this came from. I am ready lest do it. --Trinity Abbey (talk) 10:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
- Thanks for the info, I will incorporate everything in the article, provided I have reliable sources. @Trinity Abbey: Please stop using <ref> tags on my talk page place the sources in brackets like this [https://google.com google]. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 11:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
Viswanathan Anand
Hello Elie plus. I noticed that you have restored content which was recently added by 69.126.141.116 (talk · contribs). I have reverted the changes on the basis of the WP:BLP material being unsourced and original research, not supported by the linked-to reference at http://grandchesstour.com/2015-tour-results. If this revert was not in error, please contact me on my talk page with an explanation at your convenience. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 21:24, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Yamaguchi先生: I was about to message you, I read the anon contribs and they seemed legit but didn't have the chance to check the cited source. Thanks for clarifying and sorry for the inconvenience. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 21:28, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi
Hi,
just wanted to ask you if you can help with more sources to fill in the Lebanese nationality law, because I do not understand the language, and because there are many discrepancies in the page, some parts were directly copy pasted from other similar pages like Swiss nationality law and many others. Mintytingy (talk) 23:05, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
- Mintytingy has been blocked as a sock. Meters (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
BATROUMINE
Hello Elie Plus, regarding the latest modifications to Batroumine, I agree with you regarding "County" instead of "Country"; I admit it was a mistake; and thank you for correcting it. But regarding "Wissam Shekhani"; would you please help me in adding his name to the village notable people's list? Actually, many names were added without notability such as "Hamid Anwar Katrib" for example, wherein you did not delete his name, and which is not supported by any reference, instead you chose to delete "Wissam Shekhani" which is notable and has many sources online? Can you help in adding his name again, and what are the sources required to provide for your review and approval? Can you teach me the process and support this query please? Thank you Batroumine (talk) 13:13, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Batroumine: thanks for pointing those out! I removed most of them, most are not supported by the sources. You started your account on 16-11-2009, that's 6 years ago no? By now you should've got yourself acquainted with Wikipedia policies before making such edits. Your username by itself is problematic because it may indicate COI. To learn more you can start here and make sure you check the links in the blue navbox at the bottom entitled "Wikipedia key policies and guidelines". Issues with your edits include breaches to the following policies Wikipedia:Notability and Self promotion. The answer to your specific query is in the Notability policy. Read that one first and happy editing. ~ Elias Z. (talkallam) 14:53, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
- @Elie plus: Thank you for your reply and care; you are right it's been long time I opened my account but I am too busy at work and couldn't develop much my skills, I still need help actually. Can I be in touch with you for any help and advice in the future? Thank you and wish you a good day Batroumine (talk) 08:17, 26 January 2016 (UTC)