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    August 29

    Resolved
     – 00:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

    Please does anyone know of a simple tool to count incoming links to a page, ideally limited to links from the article namespace? I can page through Special:WhatLinksHere and count manually, but this gets tedious for articles with many thousands of incoming links. I've searched through tools.wmflabs.org and found a tool that works for disambiguation pages only, but I'm hoping for something similar that includes ordinary articles. Thanks, Certes (talk) 00:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    See Help:What links here#Number of links. There has been a request to integrate a function similar to this into Mediawiki since 2005 Phab:T6394. Nanonic (talk) 00:53, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the speedy response, Nanonic. Dispenser's tool looks like exactly what I was seeking. Certes (talk) 00:56, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved
     – 01:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

    Is there a way to create a permalink to a section (i.e. "question") on a reference desk? --2606:A000:4C0C:E200:1821:CD59:E35A:CB68 (talk) 00:51, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You would begin to do this in the same way as any permalink. Access the page and then click 'Permanent Link' and once done, click the section heading you want and copy the URL including the oldid. For example, the permalink for this page when you edited it would be https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=736660361 (or Special:Permalink/736660361) and the permalink for the section at that point would be https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&oldid=736660361#Refdesk_permalink (or Special:Permalink/736660361#Refdesk_permalink). As with any permalink, this links to that particular version of the page. Any subsequent edits are not included. Nanonic (talk) 01:05, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks, Nanonic! Works fine, I especially like the 2nd option, making it an internal link. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:1821:CD59:E35A:CB68 (talk) 01:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Disable mobile site?

    Is there a way I can permanently disable the mobile version of Wikipedia and always show the desktop version instead? I use Wikipedia on a mobile device but find the desktop version much better. Thanks!AnAwesomeArticleEditor (talk) 01:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @AnAwesomeArticleEditor: At the bottom of every mobile page should be a button to switch over the desktop mode. The preference should be saved as a cookie and will stick until you clear those. You can also click on this link in mobile view and it will do the same thing. --Majora (talk) 01:52, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe it should be saved as a cookie, but in my experience (Android, Chrome) it isn't. I have failed to find a way to achieve what AnAwesomeArticleEditor wants. Maproom (talk) 07:33, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    List of infobox template subset

    I need a relatively easy way to produce a list of infobox templates that support the individual coordinates-related parameters. For this purpose it would probably be sufficient to list templates that support one of |latitude=, |latd=, or |lat_d= (or 3 separate lists). To be clear, I'm talking about templates, not template transclusions. ―Mandruss  02:43, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mandruss:

    Latd search, Lat_d search, the latitude one is a little bit trickier. Give me a few minutes while I read up on cirrus searches. --Majora (talk) 03:09, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Mandruss: So I did figure out a better way to do this but the wikimarkup is having a fit with the renaming so they are just going to have to be full links. There is one catch. I can't figure out how to filter out the subpages. So the /doc, /sandbox, ect for various templates are in there too. If anyone else can figure that out and let both of us know that would be great. --Majora (talk) 03:35, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Latitude: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&ns10=1&search=insource%3A%22%7B%7B%7Blatitude%7C%7D%7D%7D%22+intitle%3AInfobox&searchToken=5wdrd09e5yfpmvcj95gxzqn8h

    Latd: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&fulltext=Search&search=insource%3A%22%7B%7B%7Blatd%7C%7D%7D%7D%22+intitle%3AInfobox&ns10=1&searchToken=292g5p4jnm4fljwq2y7jzivb4

    Lat_d:https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Search&profile=advanced&profile=advanced&fulltext=Search&search=insource%3A%22%7B%7B%7Blat_d%7C%7D%7D%7D%22+intitle%3AInfobox&ns10=1&searchToken=e8mpmqrw0el939mmkiwtoh01m

    @Mandruss and Majora: Adding "-intitle:doc -intitle:sandbox -intitle:testcases" to the searches eliminates many of the unwanted pages. -- John of Reading (talk) 04:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Majora and John of Reading:  Thank you very much!Mandruss  01:47, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    What is redesigned notification page and where is it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youshallnotpassss (talkcontribs) 08:31, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    creating a user page

    Why can't I create a user page when I press the create a user button it doesn't workYoushallnotpassss (talk) 09:03, 29 August 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Youshallnotpassss (talkcontribs) 08:47, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I keep clicking the create user page button and it doesn't work I am new to thisYoushallnotpassss (talk) 09:07, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    My user name is youshallnotpassss I forgot my passwordYoushallnotpassss (talk) 09:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Seems like you are currently logged in into your account. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I know youshallnotpasss is my username but I forgotten my password and when I type my username in it says it doesn't exist and I need to login again nowYoushallnotpassss (talk) 10:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Youshallnotpassss, you're already logged in. We know this because when you are signing your post, it puts your username and a timestamp. What you may be seeing is that you don't have a user page which is true. That is why your name is showing up in red. Once you create the page, which you can do without needing the password (since you're logged in), your name will show up in blue. †Dismas†|(talk) 11:36, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    user page

    It won't let me create a user page when I click on the create a user page buttonYoushallnotpassss (talk) 17:10, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Youshallnotpassss: What exact error is it giving you when you click save page? -- The Voidwalker Discuss 17:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    creating a user pageYoushallnotpassss (talk) 11:32, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

    Every time I try to click the create a new user page button it doesn't work the button itself doesn't work is it because i'm using Android Youshallnotpassss (talk) 11:32, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Please don't create a new section for each message. I have merged the 3 sections in which you are continuing the same discussion. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:24, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref

    Hi-I am new but an expert in the field of Northern Soul music following 43 years in the business. Are my edits ok as error messages keep cropping up? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gaynorjones (talkcontribs) 09:33, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The error messages said "Cite error: A <ref> tag is missing the closing </ref> (see the help page)", and the words "help page" were in blue to show that they were a wikilink, in this case to Help:Cite errors/Cite error included ref. In any case, your edit was reverted as you hadn't understood what is required for a reference. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:28, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    about page creation

    i want know that how to creat page for the public about myself — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devidayal100 (talkcontribs) 11:41, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see Your first article. If you'd like help going through the steps below, try the Article Wizard.
    1. Ensure that you have an account and you are logged in. If you don't have an account, create one
    2. Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
    3. Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
    4. Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
    5. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
    6. Type the page name in the search box and click 'Go'
    7. Click 'Create this page'
    8. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines
    9. Be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are at extra risk of deletion, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones.
    I recommend not creating an article about yourself, however, as you have a conflict of interest. Also, please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: . Do not sign in articles. Pppery (talk) 12:12, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Devidayal100: See above. Pppery (talk) 12:19, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Question du la polémique

    Mieux avec le bandeau pour garçon tableau à Paris et << Wikipedia >>? Manières à l’égard grâce à près statistiques et données, ouvrière demeurera étroitement au locaux déploiement sous-marins rideaux de oukazes. --Le Kàloàk (talk) 13:15, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Try asking at the French Wikipedia help desk: https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Questions_techniques RudolfRed (talk) 17:06, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Mitchell Hamline School of Law page

    There are problems with the Wikipedia page for Mitchell Hamline School of Law. The page has received very little editorial attention since the school was created on Dec. 10 2015, after the combination of William Mitchell College of Law and Hamline School of Law. I believe merging the William Mitchell page and the Hamline Law page is appropriate as a way to show that the two schools are now a part of Mitchell Hamline School of Law. Some Wikipedia editors argue that's recentism, but I disagree. Key point: the William Mitchell page contains incorrect information, since the school no longer exists. It also mixes in current information about Mitchell Hamline School of Law, such as the web address. Some of the same issues are on the Hamline Wikipedia page as well. Meanwhile the Mitchell Hamline School of Law page doesn't include the most basic information about the school, such as its physical address. Full disclosure: I'm an employee of Mitchell Hamline School of Law who has requested something be done with this page in the past on the William Mitchell and Mitchell Hamline talk pages, but nothing has been done. Posttim (talk) 16:25, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    William Mitchell was a much bigger school. It may be appropriate to rename it to Mitchell Hamline School while retaining a separate article about former Hamline School. Ruslik_Zero 17:46, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    COI

    I noticed that a recent edit at World Aquarium was made by user, World Aquarium. The edits weren't particularly ad-like, though he introduced a bunch of grammatical errors which I tried to correct. I'm not sure of all the steps to take to notify the user of COI; could someone here do this please? (and maybe instruction so I can take care of it myself in the future). I think I'll go back and put a refimprove tag on it, and maybe search for some references when I have time for a proper google search. Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 18:40, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Warned. TimothyJosephWood 19:06, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    You can use {{Uw-coi}} to give a templated warning to someone. There's also {{Welcome-COI}} if it's among their first few edits. If the problems persist, you can raise the issue at WP:UAA (for user name violations), WP:AIV (for spamming), WP:COIN (for issues directly related to COI), or WP:ANI (for other behavioral issues). Generally, I find most of these noticeboards unnecessary, as people are usually reasonable when approached politely. If they're not doing anything disruptive, I sometimes just ignore it, but I keep an eye on the account to make sure it doesn't start spamming or whitewashing. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:08, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks TimothyJosephWood and thanks for the tips NinjaRobotPirate. I'll make a note for next time. Leschnei (talk) 22:35, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    unwanted info on site

    hi, my son zamon white name appears on the mobile wikipedia page of his father BANKROLL FRESH. i tried to erase it in edits but it does not show as an option to delete. could you please delete his name as one of the children or explain to me how can i can do it or what link is allowing his name to be on this site. thank you. i want as much privacy as possible — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bossladymira (talkcontribs) 19:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, it looks as if your edit here successfully removed the information. It may be a temporary anomaly which means it still appears on the mobile site. Eagleash (talk) 19:44, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi @Bossladymira:, you may also want to read WP:COI, as it is apparent that you have some sort of conflict of interest in regarding the material/article that you are editing. Reagrds. —MeowMoon (talk) 20:24, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The conflict of interest here appears to be a minor issue, and probably less important than the presumption of privacy for living subjects, especially for persons who are relatively unknown, as detailed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The material in question was unsourced, and therefore subject to removal. However, if more caution is wanted, changes can be requested by using the {{request edit}} template on the article's talk page. —Coconutporkpie (talk) 22:13, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How-to question

    (refactored from Wikipedia talk:Citing sources)

    I want upload my village details, how can it possible Rahul Madhavi (talk) 17:51, 20 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Rahul Madhavi: What exactly do you mean by, "village details"? MeowMoon (talk) 20:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Welcome links and some additional advice left on the user's talkpage. GermanJoe (talk) 20:53, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    articles for newspaper

    I have switched computers and do not have the correct website to receive the weekly articles for Sierra County Sentinel.

    If you could please send me the link to have the weekly articles I would appreciate it.

    Thank You, Tina Baca Sierra County Sentinel— Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.34.73.195 (talk) 22:33, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Tina,
    Although this help desk is for those who need assistance editing or using Wikipedia, we realize that sometimes people come here when they are unsure where to go for other help. That being said, the link to the online version of the newspaper is:
    • "Sierra County Sentinel Online Newspaper". newspapersmagazine.com.
    There you will find a link to 'Manage your subscription' which hopefully will be what you need. --I hope this helps. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:4BF:6AED:D301:8167 (talk) 00:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    In the see also section of Gandhi (film) there is a link to Jinnah (film), but links as Jinnah when I changed it to Jinnah (film) another user reverted and pointed to a WP:PIPELINK, I read it and found nothing wrong with my edit. If I understand correctly, since Jinnah and Jinnah (film) are distinct topics, so the current linking is misleading. I would like some assistance on this.--NadirAli نادر علی (talk) 23:16, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    What MarnetteD did was correct. It should not appear to the reader as "Jinnah (film)" because that is not the name of the film. The name is simply "Jinnah". The reader likely doesn't care that we have other articles with a similar title to "Jinnah". And the text after the link, "Jinnah a 1998 film", makes it clear that the link is taking them to the article about the film. †Dismas†|(talk) 23:25, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    FYI, edits like this are done quite often. Here is an example of a similar edit that I made earlier today. †Dismas†|(talk) 23:27, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)x2 As noted on the OPs talk page the italicization of the film title makes it a distinct topic from the article about the person. For those of you who want to check I have implemented a compromise here Gandhi (film)#See also (sorry Dismas when the OP posted this I hadn't made that edit yet) MarnetteD|Talk 23:30, 29 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]


    August 30

    Referencing errors on Jay Kim

    Reference help requested. I corrected a reference on this page of Jay Kim - by deleting the incorrect phrase. The page had referenced an LA Times article that said that the subject (Jay Kim) was the first Asian immigrant to be elected to Congress. That is not correct, as Dalip Singh Saund met this threshold. I'm not sure what to do to make this complete. Thanks, Stasikat (talk) 00:27, 30 August 2016 (UTC) Stasikat[reply]

    @Stasikat: It was soon corrected by a bot, nothing to worry. Thank you very much for pointing out the factual inaccuracy, I'll make a note on the talk page. - NQ (talk)

    Infobox Template not working

    Resolved

    I have tried to format Roy Roundtree like Tyrone Wheatley. I can't get the highlights to work.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 00:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    • On Roy's page you're using the College Coach infobox, which doesn't have that variable. It would seem logical to add a player-highlights to that template, since there are spots for other playing-career items in it. CrowCaw 00:42, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Since [1] they use different infoboxes with different parameters: {{Infobox college coach}} and {{Infobox NFL biography}}. The former does not have a highlights parameter. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How do I insert hyperlinks to other Wiki articles? The article should have blue highlighting of the name of the notable's link. When I tried the first notable link, it showed an arrow box to the web address, but did not turn the name blue. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurydice2016 (talkcontribs) 01:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Eurydice2016: [[James Dwight Dana]] produces James Dwight Dana. See more at Help:Link. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How to check history...and more

    Hello, Recently I have been studying philosophers most notably Socrates.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socrates

    Upon returning to the Wikipedia "Socrates" Web page I have noticed a grevious amount of changes that were made within the last 72 hours.

    How can I view the previously in edited version?

    Additionally, in my search I attempted to remedy one of the omitted links. The afformentioned link was in (Greek?) "oeuvre" used to describe the complete body of work completed by an artist throughout a career.[2] In an attempt to remedy this I noticed that the site has been set to prevent vandalism. It is in my humble opinion that this site may have been vandalized.

    Your urgent attention is greatly appreciated and thank you for all of the wonderful works and contributions. The works within these pages are an invaluable rescource to all.

    Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:B:3:0:0:0:C1 01:53, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't see a "grevious amount of changes". In the last two weeks, an editor has changed the spacing around some em-dashes, and another has added a picture showing Socrates. Maproom (talk) 11:39, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Override NOGALLERY tag

    bsd. i edit a lot of logos, which are not free, and therefore have the NOGALLERY tag in all categories specifically for them. In order to identify images that csn be improved, galleries are very useful, so i would like to know if there is a way of manually overriding the nogallery tag, without removing it. thank you. --Ben Stone 03:11, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Overriding that would defeat the purpose. Logos can only legally be used for very specific reasons. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:4BF:6AED:D301:8167 (talk) 03:21, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Let me clarify: by override i mean just for editing purposes, without ever changing the actual page, exclusively for editing purposes. For example: appending #IgnoreNoGallery to the end of the url, would override said tag, without changing the page, and violating copyright.--Ben Stone 04:09, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The policy is here: WP:Logos, which would supersede anything I say, of course; but it is my understanding that even having copyrighted logos on non-article space (talk pages, user drafts, etc.) is not allowed (without valid justification). If I'm understanding your intent, you want to assemble a gallery of logos for editing purposes? 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:4BF:6AED:D301:8167 (talk) 04:35, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    No. I am NOT asking about policy at all, my question is completely technical. I want to know whether there is a feature/function/addon, which would allow me to view thumbnails in categories tagged with nogallery without modifying them. The only purpose would be to quickly identify images for improvement.--Ben Stone 04:44, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I've done some checking (e.g: mw:Help:Magic words#Behavior switches), but can't find any direct answer to your question. --Sorry. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:4BF:6AED:D301:8167 (talk) 05:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for the time and effort! --Ben Stone 05:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Can't you just edit the page, erase __NOGALLERY__, and hit show preview? Bruto (talk) 09:10, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Have you tried that? Sounds like a good solution (just don't press 'Save'). 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:5121:5CA3:CCCC:2372 (talk) 00:21, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I've tried it, but it doesn't work well when the category has multiple pages. --Ben Stone 04:30, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I wish to remove an article about me

    I wish to remove an article about me. It's wrong, and I resent being online in any way. Please help me. I find it offensive that someone would upload information about me (some of which is incorrect) without permission. How do I get rid? Lacherlichcat (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 10:21, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, you can click on the link 'contact page' on the left of any page and then the link relating to article subjects. This will take you to a specialist team who have the tools to assist you. As a cautionary note please remember it is Wikipedia's page about 'you' built from hopefully reliable sources, not 'your' page. Please do not take any unilateral action such as deleting text etc. as this will not help you in the long run. Good luck. Eagleash (talk) 10:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I have looked at what I suspect is the article in question, and proposed it for deletion, on the grounds that its subject fails to meet Wikipedia's idiosyncratic definition of "notability". Maproom (talk) 13:46, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    general user friendliness of wikipedia

    I am 63 years old, suffering from a deteriorating muscle condition, partly blind, living in a remote village in a developing country with irregular electricity supply, and FEMALE.

    this does not diminish my capacity to help make entries as far ranging as those for Lady Chatterley's Lover and ASIO ACCURATE. the page for which my monograph is the only reference cited with a descriptive citation is still riddled with errors of FACT.

    I am prompted to write because I heard on Australian radio this morning about the rather disproportionate number in the percentages of contributing editors who are not men. This is 2016 and I thought that by now the idea was rather that knowledge should be no longer the province of only half the world's population.

    If you could be so kind (sic) as to postulate the existence of a person with a very sharp mind who could very easily ( well, at great physical sacrifice) fix a large number of small and greater errors - THE person who ought to have been consulted about one particular page as it happens, a person who without being a Neanderthal having begun using email in 1992, is nevertheless unacquainted with Facebook or any other form of social media, does not go online shopping except under torture, but nevertheless cannot see why SHE should be excluded on ANY of these grounds from helping if we are sincerely talking about accurate factual knowledge, then there needs to be a more user friendly way of getting in contact with people for those who have never done a live chat in their lives or used Facebook or Twitter etc.

    if this is the wrong page for these observations, could someone please forward them to were they should be and perhaps think of a person they know in a wheelchair who still keeps trying to contribute. Not everyone is a white male speaking English and under 40 years of age - I say this without bitterness in the least - but again, merely as an observation of FACT

    in the 21st Century though I do realize in FACT knowledge is still a club belonging nearly exclusively to the male of the species, if THEORIETICALLY at least, Wikipedia would like to avoid having such a finger pointed at it, it could possibly adopt a more user friendly attitude and postulate the existence of someone as I have described myself to be, and someone could perhaps contact me. I have already made contributions under another name but I am too ill to chase them. Either Wikipedia is committed to accuracy an excellence or it is not

    Like Emily Dickenson I do not really care of my name is associated with anything in particular but unlike her, I am a historian and a writer not a poet. I do not know how to watch this page so if someone can work the Oracle and find some way to email me this would be great. Dr Shining J Mountan (talk) 11:30, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Dr Shining J Mountan: Thank you for your message - I'll address a couple of points:
    "cannot see why SHE should be excluded"
    How do you feel you are excluded? Wikipedia aims to be wholly inclusive of every person, and although we do fall short in some aspects we are working to resolve that.
    "find some way to email me"
    Unfortunately we cannot do that - but you can email us! If you pop an email over to info-en@wikimedia.org either myself or another member of our volunteer team will be happy to discuss these concerns with you.
    I hope I've managed to answer at least some of your concerns -- samtar talk or stalk 11:38, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree with Samtar. What exactly are you complaining about? If you're merely angry that more women don't contribute to wikipedia, there is nothing that can be done except for more women to contribute to wikipedia.74.70.146.1 (talk) 14:50, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    It may be that the OP does not realise that ALL Wikipedia contributors/editors/administrators are unpaid volunteers who spontaneously offer their time and (intellectual) labour, and that Wikipedia/the Wikimedia Foundation does not select them in any way. Why these volunteers are disproportionally male (and also white Western English speakers – like myself) is a matter of sociological interest, but not something correctable without a corresponding shift in global sociology.
    The OP mentions several facts about herself as if, perhaps, they would be discriminated against by Wikipedia, but none of them would be known to anyone else if the OP becomes a Wikipedia contributor, with or without an account (I myself have been contributing regularly for over a decade without an account) unless the OP chooses to disclose them. "On the Internet, nobody knows you're a dog." {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.211.191 (talk) 23:30, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    {{Expand section}} template not using full width of article

    Anybody know why the {{Expand section}} template in the File_Allocation_Table#Concepts article is only a fraction of the width of the article, and so is all bunched up? Chaheel Riens (talk) 13:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    That is the default width of {{Expand section}}. I have added |small=no.[2] PrimeHunter (talk) 16:43, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Bajrang Dal Page

    Dear Sir,

    Please remove the page on Bajrang dal or make is fully editable, the page owner is not displaying the correct info. The page states bajrang dal as an Militant Organisation, but it is not an militant organisation its a nationlistic orgnisation working todars devlopment of Indian youth. If it is militant organisation then govt of india have to take the decision not somebody who thinks than its a militant organisation. Its a shame on crore of its followers by calling a peacefull organisation an militant organisation, i immedetely call for bannig of this page and other link related to bajrang dal as it portray bajrang dal in a bad light, also for your info it is not a banned org and a fully legal organisation, Pleas remove the word militant and remove the page and the moderator from wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sk234 (talkcontribs) 16:02, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) @Sk234: Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: . Do not sign in articles. Additionally, this is not the place to request deletion of, unprotection of, or edits to a protected page. If you would like the page deleted, please follow the instructions at Wikipedia:Deletion process. To request that the page be made "fully editable" (aka unprotected) you would first ask the protecting admin, Ruslik0, and then, if that fails, post on Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#Current requests for reduction in protection level. Your other concerns belong on the talk page of the article in question, possibly as a semi-protected edit request.
    Additionally, you will be able to edit it when you become autoconfirmed on September 9 or whenever you make your tenth edit, whichever comes later. Pppery (talk) 16:20, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Sk234: Wikipedia does not use words like "militant" without evidence from reliable sources. If you read the references at the bottom of the Bajrang Dal article, you will see that both The Times of India and The Indian Express have used that word in describing it. Maproom (talk) 21:05, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The OP might like to read the article Militant: the term does not necessarily imply the use of violence or that the organisation so described is not peaceful. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 90.202.211.191 (talk) 23:36, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Archiving talk page

    https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ADawid2009&type=revision&diff=736882151&oldid=736877524 - is someone who can help me? Dawid2009 (talk) 16:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Dawid2009: You appear to have successfully set up automatic archiving on your talk page. However, it may take up to a day before the archiving bot actually gets aroung to archiving it - see User:Lowercase sigmabot III/Archive HowTo#After you have set up archiving Pppery (talk) 16:26, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Help with tags

    Can someone point me to the help section on tags? I'm specifically looking for information on how to use the {{about}} tag.

    Thanks!

    It was a dark and stormy night. (talk) 19:49, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @It was a dark and stormy night.: I believe you are looking for Wikipedia:Hatnote - NQ (talk) 19:52, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    It is indeed! Thank you so much. It was a dark and stormy night. (talk) 19:56, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]


    August 31

    Can someone please call for the deletion of the page? Castlemate (talk) 00:16, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You can use the articles for deletion process. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 00:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I have nominated it for deletion. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael Valli. —MRD2014 (talk) (contribs) 01:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    unsupported arguments for Template:IPAc-en

    Resolved

    Selina Meyer is having some problems with presentation at {{IPAc-en}}--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 03:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I separated the two phoneme codes in the first syllable |maɪ| -> |m|aɪ| —teb728 t c 05:25, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Greetings,

    How do I link wikipedia to Google when I search for my Company name. To explain when I search for my company name in google the wikipedia information appears on the right hand side . How do i share my company information for the same. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andre Didier Serre (talkcontribs) 06:31, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello Andre Didier Serre. You seem to be referring to Google's Knowledge Graph. Using its own algorithms, Google assembles and displays information as it sees fit. Much of that information may come from Wikipedia but we have no control or direct influence over that process. Our goal is to write excellent encyclopedia articles, and Google or Bing or Yahoo or Baidu or Facebook or anyone else are free to reuse that content in any way, as long as they provide attribution. Because you have a conflict of interest, you should not be editing the Wikipedia article about your company. Instead, post suggestions for improvement along with links to reliable sources verifying your suggested content on the article's talk page. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Template:HD/GKG is a stock reply to a related type of question and may also be helpful. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:20, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Haringey 6th Form Centre change oage title

    Hi,

    I work at Haringey Sixth Form College. We have recently changed our name from Haringey Sixth Form Centre to Haringey Sixth Form College. I have been able to make the changes in the body of the page, but I cannot change the title. I have tried moving the page, but am not an administrator so it is not allowing me to do so.

    URL is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haringey_Sixth_Form_Centre

    Any help gratefully received.

    Thanks Lisa Westray — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lwestray (talkcontribs) 07:59, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, and thank you for the heads-up! I've moved the article to the new title (having checked the sources to confirm the name change). --bonadea contributions talk 08:17, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Delete Sandbox

    Hi! I want to delete my own user sandbox periodically and automatically. How to do so? Wetitpig0 (talk) 09:54, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You can request deletion by adding {{db-author}} to that sandbox. I don't think you can do that automatically unless you make a bot to do that task. Fuortu (talk) 10:00, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I wish to add the name of a community group to the page for Llangynidr, in Wales and a link to the group's websiteJessopp (talk) 10:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    If you can find a reliable (such as a newspaper: not any kind of blog or social media) independent (not the group's own website, or anything based on a press release or interview) source that confirms that the group exists and is in Llangynidr, then you can add it to the article, with a citation to the source (see Referencing for beginners). You should not include a link: see External links for why not. The purpose of Wikipedia is presenting neutral, reliably sourced, information about topics, not promoting your community group, no matter how virtuous it may be. --ColinFine (talk) 16:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Article submission

    What is the status of Draft:Loss development factor? I submitted weeks ago and it hasn't been declined or accepted. Someone commented that I should improve the citations but I don't think that's grounds for declining (their concern seemed to be about citation formatting and adding in-line citations, not not notability/verifiability). I did try to fix a few but I don't know why no one has either declined or accepted. I can't resubmit because it was never reviewed the first time. -KaJunl (talk) 10:56, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @KaJunl: Your submission is still in the queue to be reviewed - some submissions take a while for some reason. Pppery (talk) 11:09, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    KaJunl It has now been accepted and moved to mainspace by User:Timothyjosephwood - Arjayay (talk) 14:32, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    B, 0-9, A, N, C, D...

    At Category:Members of the Ten Year Society of Wikipedia editors the ordering is B, 0-9, A, N, C, D...

    Why is the ordering wrong, and how do we fix it? --Guy Macon (talk) 14:18, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    It will (hopefully) fix itself "by the weekend" see Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Sorting in categories unreliable for a few days - Arjayay (talk) 14:24, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec) Even more interesting order in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting:
    0–9, A, C, D, E, G, H, K, L, M, B, P, F, R, I, S, T, O, U, Δ, Τ, Ψ, Ω
    Notice Greek letters, and doubled T, one of which is Latin 'tee', the other one a Greek 'tau'. --CiaPan (talk) 14:26, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Guy Macon and Arjayay: Things appear to get worse... Today I tried to refresh the cached page for Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting – and nothing changed. However I noticed the C item with a single page Comparison of survey software went somewhat forward, and it landed approximately in the M, F, K sequence. So I made a null-edit to the page to see, if it would change its position in a category. And — surprise, surprise! — the C item disappeared from the category at all, though the page still contains an error in Ref-s... So the problem is much bigger than just ordering... --CiaPan (talk) 08:47, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    CiaPan - Probably best if you report that at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Sorting in categories unreliable for a few days in case it is an unreported side effect - Arjayay (talk) 08:55, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Is there any good reason why the WMF can't roll out changes on a test system then make an instant switchover, like most IT departments do? --11:13, 1 September 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guy Macon (talkcontribs)
    @Guy Macon: There is a degree of staging, but you can imagine the cost associated with a full dev/prod setup :/ -- samtar talk or stalk 11:18, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I am imagining imagine the cost associated with a full dev/prod setup...

    --Guy Macon (talk) 11:49, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Page removal

    There has been a page created in my name and I request that it be removed. I would rather not have my info out there any more than it already is at this point due to the job that I do. The name of the page is Andy Cobb. It talks about my racing career and my law enforcement career. Thank you for any help you can give. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.106.249.199 (talk) 15:13, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    That is not a page created in your name; that is an article about you in a reference work. If you click on the link "contact page" on the left of an article page, you can reach "Article subjects", the link for those who like you are the subject of articles. Thia takes you to a specialist team who have the tools to assist you. We hope that Wikipedia's article about you contains content from reliable sources. Is this not correct? Because those sources are by definition already publicly available. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:15, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on The Bride (2015 film)

    Reference help requested. I've looked it over and don't know what you mean by this. I need some help in order to identify what I've been doing wrong. Thanks, Movieman2 (talk) 15:58, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Your error was fixed in this edit. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:03, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Empty citation

    I am having difficulty adding a citation (webpage address) to an item I have edited. I used the template. But have not done this before so presume I have done something wrong.82.12.242.178 (talk) 21:57, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, fixed it for you (see this edit for the difference). In short: URL and other parameters like title need to be added within the cite web template, see Template:cite web and WP:REFB for more information about this topic. GermanJoe (talk) 22:15, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Tip: if you use the web citation template from edit toolbar, you can input the URL, then press autofill (magnifying glass icon); also, 'Show/hide extra fields' allows adding parameters that autofill might miss. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:F853:9A57:8459:1F05 (talk) 22:53, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Duplicate article

    I've not run across this situation before; two articles were created on the same subject independently of one another. There was no copy-and paste involved (at least on a cursory overview). The first article, Institute of Physical Education Sukhothai Stadium, was last edited in May 2014. The second article, Sukhothai Institute of Physical Education Stadium, was created this past June. Clearly, they need to be merged, and there is no overlap of histories, so it should be pretty simple. Yet all the instructions and procedures for merging pages and histories (such as {{histmerge}}) assume that there was a copy-paste involved, which is not the case here. How should I proceed? — Gorthian (talk) 22:31, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    September 1

    Math formulas not showing on an iPhone display but seem fine on regular computer browser

    I noticed today that some of the math notation displays on a regular browser, but does not appear on the iPhone using Safari browser.

    It seems like the ones with the ":" tag are not displaying.

    Or perhaps it is the lines starting with a "<math>" tag?

    Particularly, I am looking at the 4-gradient page.

    Can anyone else verify this?

    Is the problem Wikipedia, or the Safari browser, or iPhone Safari, or just my phone?

    Referencing errors on Anthony Barber (basketball)

    Reference help requested. Hello, I was editing a page, Anthony Barber (basketball) and I received a message that I had made a reference error. I deleted a reference that was referring to something that was no longer needed in the article, but it showed up as an error in the references section. If I could get some help to get rid of the error message, that would be great. Because the info from the reference is no longer needed in the article. Thanks, --Miamiheat631Talk 01:11, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I removed the error. Fuortu (talk) 01:43, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on Albert Spaulding Cook

    Reference help requested. I still can't figure out what I did wrong. I clicked "Fix" but couldn't see anything highlighted. When I saved, the reference error was still there.

    Thanks, Wickert1 (talk) 01:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You didn't add "title" in the reference. (diff) Fuortu (talk) 01:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I've tidied it up for you in these edits. --David Biddulph (talk) 01:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Ref number 5 is done incorrectly - I did not do this edit myself and I am bringing it to your attention Srbernadette (talk) 01:55, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

     Done Eagleash (talk) 02:05, 1 September 2016 (UTC) Thanks eagleash[reply]

    Ref 7 and 8 are from the same citation resource (UK Daily Mail, but different articles) - I feel they should be formatted the same way please help Srbernadette (talk) 04:45, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Srbernadette, I've fixed the format. Ayub407talk 06:57, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference desk - Computing - told to ask here

    Mistake - Age Of Death Edit On Wikipedia when a person dies this displays in their info box Died 1st January 2000 (aged 12) (change date/age) I've recently noticed a mistake in one so I went to change I was really confused by your coding, there must be easier ways or ones that don't cause mistake Like: 1.Just Write it like I did on 2nd line of this article or 2. Get Wikipedia to calculate the age byear- dyear and the bmonth-dmonth if =>1 -1 from age. (Or similar)


    69.165.177.132 (talk) 12:34, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

    I think you might want to ask this question on the wikipedia: help desk instead of here. Margalob (talk) 02:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)


    206.47.215.180 (talk) 11:54, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The usual way to do it is with a template which does the calculation for you. {{Death date and age|2016|8|29|1920|2|4|df=y}} renders as 29 August 2016(2016-08-29) (aged 96); the detail of the parameters is at {{Death date and age}}. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:21, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    We have five million articles and they often do things differently. You didn't name an article and this is the only edit by your current IP address but David and I both tracked you down to this edit. The article did use {{Death date and age}} to compute the age. It just had a wrong birth year as input after possible vandalism in [3] was only partially fixed. The article simultaneously had the parameters birth_date = {{Birth date|1920|2|4|df=y}} and death_date = {{Death date and age|2016|8|29|1916|2|4|df=y}} in {{Infobox person}}. That's an inconsistency which could have been avoided if the template was recoded to get the death date in a separate parameter and reuse the given birth date parameter to compute the age. It wouldn't avoid an error if one of the dates was wrong but it would make internally consistent claims. There are however other complications with that method. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:55, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Dan Gurneys' state of health?

    I'd like to know the current state of health of former racing driver Dan Gurney. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.144.83.79 (talk) 13:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Entertainment reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. - Arjayay (talk) 13:55, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Propeller TV

    Error: Protected edit requests can only be made on the talk page.
    

    I am a member of the digital marketing for the above mentioned company, which has it's Wikipedia at the address; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propeller_TV

    I'd like to request a change to the logo used, as it is an extremely outdated logo, which can be seen when comparing it to our website [1]. I looked into trying to change it myself but was unable to, as the system is quite complicated. Can anyone help us to edit this, as the logo is also reflected in Google searches for our company and displays a badly outdated logo.

    Please contact me for the correct logo. Haofeng93 (talk) 14:27, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    References

     Done Uploaded a new version of the logo. Joseph2302 20:35, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    CiCi Bellis entries

    I am having trouble with someone who keeps deleting sections of my daughter's Wikipedia page dealing with her tennis career. The entries are factually correct. I have asked them to stop doing this but they persist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lydian64 (talkcontribs) 14:56, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict) Hi Lydian64 - firstly please understand CiCi Bellis is NOT your "daughter's Wikipedia page" it is Wikipedia's page about your daughter.
    Secondly, as her mother, you have a very clear conflict of interest, so should not be editing her page at all, but suggesting changes, supported by reliable sources at Talk:CiCi Bellis.
    Most of the material you keep adding is unsourced, so whether it is true or not, it cannot be verified which is one of Wikipedias princpal policies, while some of it is not from a WP:Neutral point of view with words like "accomplished", "prestigious", "stellar form", "swept aside" and " convincing fashion".
    Please read and follow our policy on editing with a conflict of interest here - Arjayay (talk) 16:01, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    I have reverted your latest re-addition, please do not re-add this material, or you will be in contravention of our 3 revert rule, for which you will be probably be blocked. - Arjayay (talk) 16:20, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Lydian64 has said that he is CiCi Bellis's father, not mother. Apart from that, I support everything you say above. Maproom (talk) 20:25, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    The problem is that most of the material you added to CiCi Bellis is unsourced. What you know from personal knowledge is of no use to Wikipedia. Please read about verifiability, published reliable sources, and referencing. Please also read about conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:59, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on The Bride (2015 film)

    Reference help requested. How do you want me to go about fixing this? I thought this was correct in how the page was supposed to be added. Thanks, Movieman2 (talk) 17:14, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Question was asked and answered yesterday. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:19, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Script for Afd

    Is there a known good script for closing Afds? I realize there may be multiple scripts to close Afds as I've noticed editors going about the same quite easily. Can someone experienced connect me to any recommended script which I could use (if I wished to close straightforward keep afds)? Thanks to you all in advance... Lourdes 17:26, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I use User:Mr.Z-man/closeAFD and I think it works well. I'm sure there are others, but this one is common enough to be listed at the bottom of WP:AFD/AI. clpo13(talk) 17:31, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Problems with a Wikipedia Page

    I'd like to speak with somone about how to get thye caveats on a Wikipedia page removed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by HPATM (talkcontribs) 19:34, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Based on your edit history, I'm guessing you are interested in Patrick_M._Hughes. You may be WP:BOLD and remove the tags at Patrick_M._Hughes yourself if you feel the article has been improved to meet the concerns listed. If someone disagrees, they will revert your change, and then it can be discussed on the article's talk page. RudolfRed (talk) 19:41, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    For non-finished articles

    I was writing an article recently, but I have to log out my account. How do I save my contribution? Is it possible to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galy02 (talkcontribs) 20:32, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You can save your draft as User:Galy02/sandbox or User:Galy02/article_title_of_your_choice. See WP:userspace draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 20:48, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Layout problem

    Greetings, keepers of the eternal flame! I'm trying to centre a poem between two images in Ständchen (Schubert)#18th century editors, but I'm having a lot of difficulty. I imagine it's possible, but I can't find out how to do it. Any ideas, please?

    Infobox signature

    Resolved
     – 21:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)

    I have tried a number of attempts to include a signature image for the infobox of the Willy Stöwer article. Previously, (after giving up) I used it as the main image; an unsatisfactory result. Just now I replaced that with an actual photo, but would like to include the signature. Help! 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:F853:9A57:8459:1F05 (talk) 20:40, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Willy Stöwer uses {{Infobox artist}} which does not have a signature parameter. I did something else [4] to use the signature parameter in {{Infobox person}}. This trick only works for some infoboxes. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Request it at the talk page and I will support it. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 21:07, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    (edit conflict)

    Thanks, PrimeHunter -- nice trick. Odd that 'infobox artist' does not have signature parameter, yet 'person' does. 2606:A000:4C0C:E200:F853:9A57:8459:1F05 (talk) 21:12, 1 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]