Jump to content

Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Personal attacks

Edit links
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
< Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Crimsone (talk | contribs) at 00:09, 6 September 2006 (→{{user|El Gringo}}). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.


    Shortcut
    This page is intended to get attention quickly when dealing with personal attacks. It is not intended to serve as a form of mediation or a type of RFC. Only Personal attacks are dealt with on this page, on their own merits in accordance with Wikipedia's No Personal Attacks policy

    For editors who want a personal attack situation reviewed:

    1. Consider that in most cases, ignoring the attack is better than requesting sanction against the attacker. Do not report people if you are likewise guilty of hostility towards them.
    2. Make sure the user has actually commited a personal attack. (Please note that "personal attacks" are defined only under the WP:NPA policy. If a statement is not considered a personal attack under the intended spirit of this policy, it does not belong here.)
    3. The editor must have been warned earlier. The {{npa2}}, and {{npa3}} templates may be appropriate for new users; for long-term editors, it's preferable to write something rather than using a standard template. Reports of unwarned editors may be removed.
    4. If the behavior hasn't stopped, add the following header to the New Reports section of this page in the following format:
      ==={{User|NAME OF USER}}=== replacing NAME OF USER with the user name or IP address concerned, with a brief reason for listing below. Be sure to include diffs.
    5. If an editor removes the IP or username and doesn't handle the matter to your satisfaction, take it to the editor's talk page or the administrators' noticeboard, but do not re-list the user here.
    6. NB - Due to misunderstanding of these instructions and/or mis-use of this process, comments not in strict adhereance to these instructions WILL be removed. This page deals only with personal attacks under the policy WP:NPA. Reports deemed to be inappropriate for this page are liable to be moved to an appropriate venue where one exists.


    For those reported on this page:

    1. A reviewer or an administrator will review each report on this page. In dealing with the report, the contribution history of the reported user shall be checked along with the diffs provided in the report. Where no personal attack is evident, then no action will be taken - however, should an administrator see that another seperate issue is evident, appropriate action or advice for that issue may be taken/given at his or her discretion and in line with wiki policy.
    2. Reports on this page stand on their own merits in accordance with Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. As such, disputes and discussions over reports are not suitable for this page except for such comments left by admins or reviewers describing their actions and/or findings. If you notice your account reported at this page, please trust that the administrators and reviewers dealing with reports will deal with it in an even-handed and fair manner on the basis of policy alone. If you feel strongly that another "side to the story", issue, or another piece of information is missing from a report please refrain from posting here, and instead leave your comment on your talk page under the title NPA Report or another other clear and related title. The reviewing party will see this message and take it into account where applicable.

    For users handling assistance requests:

    1. For each of the users linked here, open their contributions and check for personal attacks. Also check if the users have been sufficiently warned for the current personal attack and whether they've continued to commit personal attacks after being warned.
    2. Note that there is an important difference between a user who makes many good contributions and a few personal attacks, and a user whose last edits are (nearly) all personal attacks or other conflict.
    3. Do nothing, warn them again, or, if you are an adminstrator, block the user in question as you think is required. Explain things carefully to the user who listed the attacker if you feel there's been a misunderstanding.
    4. Move the report to the Open Reports section and give an update to the status of the report.
    5. Delete old reports that have been dealt with.

    Please consider adding this page to your watchlist to make life easier for non-administrator RC-patrollers.

    New reports

    Squeakbox and Hagiographer

    Squeakbox (talk · contribs) was blocked for a week per his personal attack parole (resulting from arbitration) for writing on his user page that one of his achievements was

    restoring José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero from the POV of another user who claims to write about saints but who is determined to slur him. [1]

    This is a veiled reference to Hagiographer (talk · contribs), who acts exactly like Zapatancas (talk · contribs), the other party in arbitration. Squeakbox modified the reference so it now says,

    restoring José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero from the POV of another user who claims to write about saints.

    Hgiographer claims this is still a personal attack and changed the user page on his own several times before it was protected. I would like some idea on whether the revised statement is acceptable or whether it sill constitutes a personal attack. No action is required at this time as Squeakbox is currently blocked for other reasons. Thatcher131 (talk) 12:41, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Ldingley (talk · contribs)

    I would really like User:Ldingley to stop referring to me as "the arab editor [sic]" [2] [3] [4] which is bordering on an ethnic slur and at any rate demonizing, not to mention it is extremely presumptuous since I am not even Arab. It was precipitated by a content dispute on the Copt article, discussed at Talk:Copts. — [zɪʔɾɪdəʰ] · t 22:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Indrancroos (talk · contribs)

    Indrancroos has turned the indian martial arts discussion page from a discussion about the merits of the article to a discussion about me... he has accused me of racism on multiple occasions, and yet has yet to substantiate anything about any statements that i have said that are racist... he has also supposedly brought in other discussion too... but has yet been able to bring in any statements of racism that i have made... i have attempted to tell him to stop doing this and yet he continues... two whole pages of the discussion panel consist of his ramblings...Kennethtennyson 03:03, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Please supply some diffs for these incidents. Crimsone 03:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Open reports

    El Gringo (talk · contribs)

    NB - this user has immediately removed both my NPA warnings on his talk page: [5] [6].

    The personal attacks in question are here: [7] and [8].

    As you will see, the user in question is acting very belligerently towards those he considers "British", in what I consider to be a racialist manner. Gsd2000 23:28, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    I have restored the NPA3 template with a message on his talk page explaining why. If he removes the template again and then persists in attacking, he will require either NPA4 or admin attention. Crimsone 23:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    He's now just removed your addition, citing it as vandalism, again. Gsd2000 00:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't matter. The diffs you provided show obvious personal attack, and my message and NPA3 can be seen here at this diff. If there is another attack, post a diff of it here, and somebody else will deal with the report taking account of this. :) Crimsone 00:07, 6 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    195.23.23.240

    http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Bob_Harris_%28writer%29&diff=prev&oldid=73757145

    I don't see who this is a personal attack against, nor do I see a warning on their talk page even if it was. Personal attacks refer to wikipedians. While the edit was improper, unless there is any evidence that any of the people mentioned in the comment are part of wikipedia its not technically a personal attack. Its petty vandalism at most.--Crossmr 16:15, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    MrVoluntarist (talk · contribs)

    Another personal attack from another repeat attacker, in one of the usual spots. Honestly, why don't the admins just watch those pages? It'd make it a lot easier than having me report every single personal attack made on them by the tons of policy violators who troll them. -- LGagnon 17:35, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    I would highly suggest (yet again) that you get some thicker skin or avoid editing articles on Ayn Rand. I can't fathom how that's supposed to be a personal attack, but then, 90% of your reports here are vexatious claims. Again, please, please read the purpose of this page and use dispute resolution for your ongoing editing disputes. Shell babelfish 22:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    He is saying that "he will yell, scream, and throw a tantrum until he gets his way" (a personal attack made by another user) is the truth. That is a personal attack. And no, "truth" does not overturn the NPA policy (which I hope I don't have to explain to an admin of all people).
    I might make a lot of reports here, but that's because the Rand-related articles have become a de facto policy-free environment due to admin negligence. If at least one admin would take the time to deal with the rampant chaos there and stop the handful(s) of policy violators from destroying the place, I wouldn't need to post complaints here so often.
    And as I've said before, dispute resolution does nothing. I've tried it over and over and over again for those articles, and nothing happens. All I get out of it is more proof that the admins aren't willing to enforce the NPOV policy on Jimbopedia's pro-Rand articles. Even in a simple case of personal attacks such as the ones I mention here, they still refuse to go over to the talk page and enforce the NPA policy. -- LGagnon 01:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Admins do not mediate content disputes -- I'm not sure how to get this across to you. The only methods to resolve content are listed at WP:Dispute resolution; please try following them. If you haven't gotten to Arbitration then you haven't really followed it, now have you? Shell babelfish 04:45, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Lordkazan (talk · contribs)

    Would someone mind discussing WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL with this user? I have previously left a 1st warning (which he deleted), and now a second [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Lordkazan&diff=73945043&oldid=73941801 warning. He does not seem to understand that calling someone a "mindless zealot" is unacceptable behaviour.

    Could an uninvolved admin discuss these issues with him? Thanks in advance. Jakew 14:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Retrieved from "https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Personal_attacks&oldid=74043896"