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    September 28

    Cite error on Major Arena Soccer League

    i accidently created this error------Cite error: A list-defined reference named "exmo141224" is not used in the content (see the help page). on this page-------Major Arena Soccer League and dont understand why please help want to fix — Preceding unsigned comment added by Floridaboy321 (talk • contribs) 03:24, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Floridaboy321, you placed the references in an incorrect section. The same has been corrected. Read referencing for beginners before proceeding further. Lourdes 03:33, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Everyone, I'm trying to understand how links in specific Wikipedia articles are used.

    I know how to verify article-specific traffic using https://tools.wmflabs.org/pageviews/. Is there an equivalent, to check link traffic in each article? Thanks for any pointers. --TuCove (talk) 03:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @TuCove: What exactly do you mean by "link traffic"? Murph9000 (talk) 04:43, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for replying. I want to understand traffic on links in the article (to other Wikipedia articles, links to external sites, etc) as if analyzing any other website i.e.from total unique user article visits, 1) how many # users clicked any link on the article 2) how many # clicks did each link on the article get?. --TuCove (talk) 04:47, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @TuCove: That's certainly not something that MediaWiki can do by default. Tracking page requests is basic and easy. Clicks on links are not easily trackable in a standard web page, it needs some relatively complex JavaScript and a heavy and complex back end, e.g. Google Analytics. I don't believe the WMF have added anything like that, but I could be wrong. Murph9000 (talk) 05:29, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Deletion of Jeremy Wayne Ramsey

    Why would someone say the following and remove information that was true and concise just to free up server space memory is cheap I would think?

    This article uses material from the Wikipedia article Jeremy Wayne Ramsey, that was deleted or is being discussed for deletion, which is released under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported License. I followed the link that denoted who was responsible and there reasons for the action is is as follows 04:09, 10 July 2012 Mojo Hand (talk | contribs) deleted page Jeremy Wayne Ramsey (A7: No explanation of the subject's significance (real person, animal, organization, or web content)) I would think the fact that it stated a born date open ended and spouse and children would indicate that this is a real person and significance is a subjective thing as the mojo hand individual held no significance to me until this act the fact that someone had taken the time to make the entry should have been enough to let it stand unless it was shown to be in error and I dare anyone to challenge any fact of the entry I will put my money where my mouth is and 1000 bitcoins to any challenge to the truthfulness of the entry i am not some nameless faceless entity i am Jeremy Wayne Ramsey son of Hubert the hog farmer Grandson of Victor the Blacksmith Father of Alexander the swift and 3rd degree MM Keeper of my realm. Should someone wish to discuss this further Feel free to contact me at (Redacted).

    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.31.196.53 (talk) 04:30, 28 September 2016‎ (UTC)[reply]

    Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email oversight-l@lists.wikimedia.org.

    Please see Why was my page deleted? The most common reasons are:

    To find the specific reason a particular page was deleted:

    1. Go to the Deletion Log
    2. Type the page title in the case-sensitive search field
    3. The date, time and reason for deletion will be displayed

    Murph9000 (talk) 04:40, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Some people think that articles are deleted to save server space or that saving server space is an excuse for the deletion of articles. Deletion doesn't save server space, because the deleted articles are still visible to administrators. It just keeps them from being publicly viewable and indexed. Deletion is based on notability and other policies, and the need for server memory just grows. Server space isn't related to deletion. In this case, the deletion was A7, no credible claim of significance. Robert McClenon (talk) 12:24, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Information on Tim Kramer

    I was a personal friend of Tim Kramer in 1968 & 69. Everytime I read his birthdate it's 1958. this cannot be true. I assure you he was NOT 10 years old when I knew him in 1968, I was 18 yrs., & we were in the same Scout Troop then & he was an Assistant Troop Scout Master. Please change this on your pages about him.He was born closer to 1952. Thank You. Steven Rogers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.186.44.12 (talk) 07:28, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    As there are no references given for his birth date (or almost anything else in the article), I've removed it. Rojomoke (talk) 08:00, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @Rojomoke: A Ctrl+F browser search still finds two "1958" in the article. "Tim Kramer" 1958 finds lots of sources, and both external links in the article say 1958 after I fixed the IMDb link. It's possible a porn actor would have lied about his age but we don't usually accept unsourced claims from posters. In my experience most "corrections" posted here are wrong. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:42, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @PrimeHunter:, thanks. I've removed the DOB from the Early Life paragraph, and the 1958 Births category. I assume the rest of your comment is directed to the OP, and not to me. Rojomoke (talk) 14:42, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How To Add Company

    please help me to create our company wikipedia page for "Medispa Hair Transplant Center"

    what are points for this to get it published — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.179.150.238 (talk) 08:26, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    To create an article, follow these steps:

    1. Read Your first article carefully.
    2. If you don't have an account, consider creating one (it's not essential, but it makes some things easier, especially communicating with other editors) and logging in.
    3. Learn the basics of editing with the Wikipedia:Tutorial
    4. Make sure the subject is notable enough to warrant a stand-alone article
    5. Gather reliable sources to cite in the article
    6. Make sure no article on the subject exists under a different title by typing the subject into the search box and clicking 'Search'
    7. Use the Article Wizard to create a draft.
    8. Create the article, including all your references, making sure you adhere to the Manual of Style and our article layout guidelines. Base the article on what the references say, rather than on what you know.
    9. Once you believe that your draft meets Wikipedia's requirements, submit it for review by picking the "Submit your draft for review" button in the draft.
    10. Be aware that many drafts are not accepted the first time, or even the second time they are submitted for review, for failing to adhere to our policies and guidelines. New articles by new users are particularly likely not to be accepted, due to new users' unfamiliarity with our rules. Consider gaining experience by editing existing articles before attempting to create new ones. TigraanClick here to contact me 10:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Hello, IP user. I'm afraid that, like many people, you are confusing Wikipedia with a social networking or advertising site. Wikipedia does not have "company pages". What it has is articles about many subjects, including companies. These articles are, or should be,written neutrally, and based wholly on what sources unconnected with the subject have written about the subject. Wikipedia is hardly interested in what anybody or any company says or wants to say about themselves, and promotion of any sort is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Draft of Tim Solly

    A few questions... how/when can my page be reviewed so that the 'draft' status is removed? (site is Tim Solly) Also, how come the site comes up as being a wikivisual link, rather than a wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alysolly (talk • contribs) 11:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    • @Alysolly: For your first question, I think you should go through Articles for Creation. That page says that you should add {{subst:submit}} to get it reviewed; I will add it shortly if you do not mind. I suggest you use the article wizard in the future (though of course that is not an obligation).
    Actually, Murph9000 added the usual AfC template. You just have to click to submit once it is ready. - edit 11:43, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
    As for the second question, I do not understand it. Can you clarify? TigraanClick here to contact me 11:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Hello, Alysolly. I have added a special header to your draft, which has a button allowing you to submit it for review. Just click "Submit your draft for review!" when you are ready. It will normally take some time for a reviewer to fully review it and accept or decline it, unless they spot an immediate issue. If accepted, it will get published, and if declined you will get an explanation and hopefully some advice on how to address the issues. It can often take multiple review cycles before a new submission is accepted, but stick with the process as solving these issues at the draft stage usually avoids the article getting deleted later. There's around 900 draft articles in the queue, and we are all volunteers (including the reviewers), so it can sometimes take 2–3 weeks unless it's a quick and easy decision for them (they do sometimes take a quick glance at the newest submissions as well as oldest).
    As for the site, i'm honestly not sure what "wikivisual" is. Make sure that you are accessing https://en.wikipedia.org/, and not some other URL. If you continue to have problems with that, please let us see the exact URL that you are ending up at.
    Please feel free to ask any more questions, or for detail on anything that is not clear.
    Murph9000 (talk) 11:49, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you related to the subject of the draft? If so, you should declare a conflict of interest. Having looked briefly at the draft, I don't see anything obviously wrong with it, which doesn't mean that I am ready to accept or decline it, but I don't understand the question about a wikivisual link. It looks like a draft. Robert McClenon (talk) 11:56, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Kabaddi World Cup series not correct

    pleaseits a humble request kabaddi world cup series are not correct as the circle punjabi kabaddi cup are mixed with the one played indoors. when i was browsing through all the cups from 2013, when i reached 2014 and i clicked next and it pened the 2016 indoor cup please remove that from the series as the circle cup will take place this november. Please!!!Please!!please somebody do this becoz i dont know how to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.39.25.186 (talk) 14:31, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    It looks like the 2015 article was deleted twice. My guess (since I can't see what was in it) would be that someone created it, but it did not have sufficient content to meet our minimum standards. The Help Desk isn't really the place to request a new article, although someone might spot this and create it if they know enough about the sport and can find the information needed for the page. I suggest that you leave a message on Talk:Kabaddi World Cup, suggesting that someone creates it (but they must fill it out with reasonable content, otherwise it will get deleted again). You can also request it at Wikipedia:Requested articles. Murph9000 (talk) 14:52, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Also, it might help if someone includes a link to Kabaddi somewhere near the top of the 2014 - 2016 articles, such as in the introduction of the articles. I had no idea before reading these that kabaddi is a sport. In fact, I had to look up kabaddi since it's not linked from anywhere in the articles. †Dismas†|(talk) 15:50, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Reference to mirror site

    An editor (Njone35) edited three articles today by replacing "Citation Needed" with references to Wikipedia mirrors. (I have reverted all three edits.) The first one I noticed was American Revolutionary War, and the reference provided was [[1]] which is basically a word-for-word copy of the WP article. Is there a bigger issue here? Isn't there a list of websites that are blocked from being used as references because they are not reliable? Or is there some automated way to prevent this (would some bot perhaps have caught this). Is there something else that should be done? MB 16:09, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Arnold Palmer

    I'm surprised that Arnold Palmer is not "In The News" on the front page as he passed away on 25th September. SethWhales talk 16:30, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    This was discussed on 26 September, see Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#RD: Arnold Palmer, but it appears that it was felt the article was too poor to link to on the front page. - Arjayay (talk) 16:43, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Good to see all the hard work by contributors has now put the article on the front page. SethWhales talk 08:40, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I just discovered

    this file, File:Terrorist Anna logo.png and I suspect that it should be speedily deleted but am not sure how to do that, to nominate it, so if a couple of you could look at it and see if you agree and then perhaps (1) let me know where to do it, or (2) just do it. Thanks, Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 18:13, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Carptrash: Without clear evidence to the contrary, I just gave it a CSD G10 tag as an attack. I.e. that would need one hell of a good explanation to be something other than an attack in my view. Murph9000 (talk) 18:18, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    P.S. WP:TW is your Swiss Army tool for stuff like that. Murph9000 (talk) 18:25, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks, @Murph9000:, I have a swiss army knife on my belt, I will add the one you just donated to my "editing wikipedia" sheet. I don't run into this stuff very often, this was pretty much a fluke, but there it is. Thanks again, Carptrash (talk) 18:41, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    A reasonable explanation can be found in the deleted edits, but not good enough to prevent its deletion. So it has gone. -- zzuuzz (talk) 19:01, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Conflict of Interest

    I just found the note sent regarding Conflicts of Interest. Thanks for advising me on that. I have a question. How do you go about adding someone to Wikipedia? I started a page on Pat Shingleton but now see that there will be a huge problem due to me being his wife and wanting to add him. There is more than enough information on him in publications/video/etc to back up everything written. I'm not sure what the best manner is to proceed. Of course I am probably very prejudiced but the amount of citations should override my bias... shouldn't it?

    Mabyn — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mabyn Shingleton (talk • contribs) 18:48, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Mabyn, thanks for being open with us about the COI. Since you seem quite willing to work with us, this should hopefully be relatively easy to deal with. I've recorded your message here as your official declaration of COI, on the article's talk page, and have tagged the article for COI to ensure that the reviewers are aware of it. Getting this all out in the open at an early stage, while still a draft is really the best possible scenario. Please carefully read the COI information on your talk page, and the information it links to. It should help you understand what we mean by neutral, and you can hopefully help us maintain neutrality in the article. The reviewers should be able to help with that, now that they are aware of it. It should be fine for you to do the technical bits of editing the draft, such as sorting out the references, acting on specific feedback from the reviewers, etc.
    You can continue to carefully work on the text while it's in draft, just avoid piling on the praise and adjectives unless they really are very clearly justified by the good independent reliable sources, and review what you have already written to see if it needs to be adjusted for bias / neutrality. Remember that Wikipedia does not really want to know what you say about him (or what he says about himself), but what the independent sources say about him (both the good and the bad, with suitable balance). Rather than give you any more right now, please come back to us once you have had a chance to read the various COI and neutrality information, and ask specific questions. I have also dropped one of our standard welcome messages with lots of helpful links on your talk page. Thanks.
    See also: Wikipedia:Conflict of interest
    Murph9000 (talk) 19:23, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    If you write in neutral point of view, it shouldn't be a problem. Submissions will be declined if they are promotional, even if they have many reliable sources. Fuortu (talk) 21:58, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Why was my page GHAZIANI deleted?

    Recently I created a page Ghaziani, and next day it was deleted. Can someone help me with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petrovic031 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    It was deleted once, then you recreated it, and it was deleted again. Ghaziani shows you the deletion log with the reasons for deletion. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:20, 28 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see Why was my page deleted? The most common reasons are:

    To find the specific reason a particular page was deleted:

    1. Go to the Deletion Log
    2. Type the page title in the case-sensitive search field
    3. The date, time and reason for deletion will be displayed

    Murph9000 (talk) 06:21, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    September 29

    To Deactivate Account

    How do i deactivate my account from wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankit.dobarkar (talk • contribs) 05:28, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    PMC limit update needed? (Citation/CS1/Identifiers)

    I've been cleaning up CS1 citation errors lately, and I've noticed a couple of cases where apparently valid PMC values (e.g., Oncogenomics ref 29; Orphan gene ref 30) have generated an error. I'm not real knowledgeable about the PMC system, but I think it might be because the value we check against (5000000) needs to be increased. Could someone who knows more about PMC's take a look and confirm? Thanks. --Floatjon (talk) 09:28, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Not sure if you are saying that you recognize what is at Help:CS1 errors#bad_pmc or not. But this should be talked about at Help talk:CS1 errors, I've copied the comment there...Naraht (talk) 09:43, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    photos

    I am trying to upload a photo that I took and have clicked the box acknowledging this but I am being told it may not be allowed in the Commons. Is there another way to accomplish this? Thank yoU!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cduggan4 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Cduggan4 What image do you want to upload? Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 20:33, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    I made an entry for a professor I've been reading and following -- Justin Hansford -- and I tried to upload a photo I took but it's not allowing it. Also tried to upload a photo I had permission to use (from his university), but getting the same error message. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cduggan4 (talk • contribs) 20:35, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Cduggan4. If you took the picture yourself, and you tick the box that says you took it and you release it under CC-BY-SA, it should work. What is the exact message you get when it doesn't succeed?
    A picture that you have permission to use is a different matter: it won't be accepted for two reasons: first, one of the principles of Wikipedia (and particularly for Wikimedia Commons) is that material be freely reusable, so we require that images be either in the public domain, or explicitly released under a suitable licence such as CC-BY-SA (which allows anybody to reuse it for any purpose, even commercial). Secondly, the copyright owner needs to communicate that to Wikimedia themselves: they can't just tell you. Please see Donating copyright materials. --ColinFine (talk) 22:40, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    @ColinFine: I don't think he is autoconfirmed, and thus cannot upload files. Pppery 22:45, 29 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Pppery, that's true on Wikipedia, but uploading files to Commons doesn't require autoconfirmed status. commons:commons:Autoconfirmed users. --ColinFine (talk) 07:46, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    September 30

    Waiting for approval

    Hello

    I requested to add two new sections to the Macmillan Cancer Support page on the Talk section for this page in December 2015. They are still in the queue but we were hoping that someone might be able to look at these and approve them? The new sections provide more information on 'Macmillan nurses' and 'Fundraising' - both key bits of information about the charity.

    Is anyone able to help?

    Thank you!

    Frances — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francesmawson (talk • contribs) 09:47, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Frances, there are many Wikipedia articles and very few editors. Best to add these sections yourself. They need more citations however, and so have added some tags indicating this. As you're a new editor I will walk-u-through-it if & when I can find the time.--Aspro (talk) 13:37, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    michael uwezu

    i am sorry this page is not up to data Michael Uwezu have scold 12 goals now in 16 games can his Wikipedia page set up for automatic up data pleases Thant you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.252.237.173 (talk) 12:11, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Wikipedia is an encyclopedia than anybody can edit. If you think it needs updating then you can do it yourself using a reliable source. --Aspro (talk) 12:55, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    How to withdraw an article review request?

    I am posting my first article and submitted for review several days ago. I've now realized that a few of the sections fall short on resources and I would like to pull the article off the review request list until I have time to research that. How do I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joyfultrust (talk • contribs) 12:56, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    @Joyfultrust:  Done I undid your change which added the review tag, so it is back to unreviewed with the submit button at the top. Murph9000 (talk) 13:03, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Creating an article but have COI

    Hello, I'm a new user and have reviewed some of the information regarding how to create a new article. I've found that I should not create this article, however, due to a COI. I am the spouse of a musician and wanted to create an article for their band. They have pages I could use for reference, to establish the existence, and the fact that they play shows around town. I respect that for credibility, the powers that be do not want anyone with possible COI creating articles. In the case that I cannot create the article, and none of the band can, do we just have to wait for some unrelated 3rd party to decide they want to take it upon themselves to create an article?

    Thank you for any information, kbidwell3 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbidwell3 (talk • contribs) 14:23, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Not all bands get a Wikipedia article, just as not all bands get an article in other encyclopedias like Encyclopædia Britannica. The guideline for whether an article is appropriate is Wikipedia:Notability (music). If the band satisfies those notability requirements, there are ways to find someone else to create the article. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:18, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Kbidwell3, thank you for declaring your COI. If, after reading the information about notability linked below, you still believe that your band is notable enough for a Wikipedia article (see below) and that there is significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources, you could, if you wish, post a request at Wikipedia:Requested articles for the article to be created. See also Wikipedia:Best practices for editors with conflicts of interest. Sources that are not acceptable include those linked to the the band, social media and other sites that can be self-edited, blogs, websites of unknown or non-reliable provenance, and sites that are just reporting what the band claims or interviewing them. Jimfbleak (talk) 15:22, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    • Lets leave the COI to aside. As your spouse is in the entertainment business you know that there are thousands of bands playing around their home towns and 99.88% don't rate for inclusion in Wikipedia for lack of nation-wide recognition. Even if a 3rd party created an article, it would no doubt be deleted quickly -if the band does not have a high national profile. A good rule-of-thumb to use is: if a band is notable it will have a Wikipedia article already. If it doesn’t, then it does not have a higher enough profile for inclusion in an encyclopedia. Anyway, now you have an WP account – Welcome. There must be many articles that you can usefully contribute to.--Aspro (talk) 17:08, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    PDF issues

    I am suddenly blocked from copying and pasting Wikipedia questions and downloading PDF. Is there a system issue? Also, when downloading the PDF versions not all of the images transfer, is there a reason? Valeacat (talk) 16:22, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, Valeacat, welcome to Wikipedia. Can you please be more specific about exactly what is happening when you are "blocked" while cutting and pasting? As far as downloading PDFs is concerned, there are some known and long standing issues with the "Book Creator" system (see Help:Books). Those issues impact some articles, but not others. Please let us know the specific article(s) that are problematic for you, so that we can better see just what is going on. Those issues may also impact the "Download as PDF" option (I assume that's the one you are using), but we can try it ourselves to see what is happening if we know the article names. Please give us the exact error/block messages that you are seeing (if any). Thanks. Murph9000 (talk) 16:38, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Having tried a few different articles, it does seem as if the "Download as PDF" feature is completely broken right now. For me, it appears that it never really starts, and just endlessly refreshes with a status of:
    Progress: 0.00% Status: Waiting for job runner to pick up render job
    You may be able to workaround this by printing or saving to PDF in your browser (i.e. locally generating a PDF from the printable version of the HTML).
    Murph9000 (talk) 16:50, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Sharing a sandbox page for group edits

    I'd like to share the page I've created in the Sandbox with a few other people across the country to get their input. How can this be easily done? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skire913 (talk • contribs) 17:20, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    You should not share your account with others, if you're planning to do that. (See WP:U) Each person must have their own account or they can edit without logging in. Anyone with the link can see your sandbox. You can share the link and get their input. Is my answer helpful? Fuortu (talk) 17:34, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Hi, Skire913. Although user sandboxes are essentially personal, you can certainly invite other Wikipedia editors to collaborate with you on content within your user pages. Normally other editors should not edit someone else's user pages, other than fixing obvious problems and for policy issues (such as the {{User sandbox}} header I just added to it), and good faith helpful changes are usually considered to be ok. A user can choose to invite / allow others, and that should not normally be a problem (assuming that all the editing meets the usual policies and guidelines). As long as the overall goal is to work on creating a draft article for future publication on Wikipedia, and it has a clear draft article (or sandbox) header, there should be no issue. Please note the WP:NOTWEBHOST policy, so anything other than draft articles or content directly related to the goals of Wikipedia and the Wikimedia Foundation is very likely to get speedily deleted. Alternatively, you can move it into the "Draft" namespace, under the Articles for Creation process, but drafts there are essentially fair game for everyone to constructively work on without invitation. Murph9000 (talk) 17:44, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]


    Skire913, on the page User:Skire913/sandbox are you working towards creating a Wikipedia article on A-CURE or looking for a place where A-CURE members can work together? If it is the former, then just invite them to register and edit the page. If it is the latter then it would violate the "Don't store material unrelated to Wikipedia, including in userspace" clause of WP:NOTWEBHOST. Consider setting up a page on Wikia (no connection to Wikipedia) or setting up a Personal wiki. --Guy Macon (talk) 04:17, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Music 'til Dawn article

    I submitted an article for Wikipedia called Music 'til Dawn and I wanted to edit it and to add two links but I cannot find it - where do I go to find so I can article I submitted about a week ago (today is 9/30/2016) so I can continue to imorove it - I also need to re-write the opening paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:6000:E717:8900:3811:4FA8:9F15:8EBA (talk) 23:04, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Please sign your post by typing four tildes (~~~~) or clicking the signature button above the edit box which looks like this: . Do not sign in articles.. Your draft article seems to still exist at Draft:Music 'Til Dawn. I'm not sure why you think it was deleted (although it was deemed not ready for mainspace by Fuortu. Pppery 23:07, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Hi IP user, your draft seems to be at Draft:Music 'Til Dawn. For it to be accepted on Wikipedia, you will need to add reliable sources that show why it passes Wikipedia's notability guidelines. Joseph2302 23:09, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict) Hi, IPv6 user with a changing address. I strongly encourage you to register an account, as you seem to have a constantly changing IPv6 address, which makes communication with you extremely difficult, and stops you finding articles that you have worked on. I managed to find your draft in search, and have linked it at the top of this topic. The draft article was rejected for failing to meet notability criteria, and the notification for that was sent to the IPv6 address that you were using at that moment in time. From what I can see, the draft is entirely unsourced, and also needs quite significant work on the formatting, to improve readability. The subject might have notability (or not), but lack of sources and extremely over-length paragraphs makes it difficult to see that notability. So, it's a case of "not as it currently exists", rather than "never". Murph9000 (talk) 23:21, 30 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    October 1

    Template help

    Can someone edit this template (User:Prisencolin/Pro gamer achievements) so that a number other than 1, 2, and 3 will display under the "placing" parameter? Thanks.--Prisencolin (talk) 04:36, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The normal procedure would be to have one template for each row in the table, and a main template with everything else. The only example I can find at the moment is this permalink (the "list entry" would be "row"). That template has been replaced with a module that uses techniques I would not recommend for your application. Having a "row" template for your application would greatly reduce the amount of repetition in the main template. Regarding your question, please provide an example of what the input for "placing" would be, and what output would be wanted. Should input "4" generate output "4th"? If 20 is the largest reasonable input, after handling 1, 2 and 3, the default could output the input with "th" added. Johnuniq (talk) 06:55, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    {{Ordinal}} might help, as it can be used to output st/nd/rd/th asappropriate. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:07, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Mainstreaming essays

    I created essays about competence.

    I need to know how to mainstream them and to reflect the wide consensus. Is any one good to go? --George Ho (talk) 05:44, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    If "mainstream" is not the right word, how about writing a constructive essay for everybody to read? George Ho (talk) 05:47, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    The problem was explained at the MfD. The userspace essays above conflict with standard procedures because Wikipedia is an encyclopedia—commonsense and experience show that some people are a net positive, and some people aren't. WP:CIR is saying that people in the latter group need to contribute at another website. The userspace essays above would be deleted if moved to Wikipedia space. The questions posed are outside the jurisdiction of this helpdesk. Wide consensus supports WP:CIR, and a constructive essay would need a constructive idea. Johnuniq (talk) 06:31, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Moving my biographical article on a person from Draft to main wikipedia namespace

    Hi Can anyone help me out to move the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Sunil_Rao from Draft to the main namespace. Also list out the steps in which i can move any newly created article to the main namespace without having to save it as draft. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AdityaPratip (talk • contribs) 07:11, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    That draft provides no evidence that its subject is notable, in the sense in which that word is used here in Wikipedia. So if it does get moved to mainspace, it is likely be be deleted soon afterwards. Maproom (talk) 11:38, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Java Script Disabled

    https://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=An_Hoa_Combat_Base&params=15.785_N_108.073_E_&title=An+Hoa+Combat+Base

    On this page a map is displayed on the right hand side. My map is "grayed" out and says "java script disabled". I've checked my IE11 settings and Java Script is not disabled. Same thing in Chrome. How can I get the map back?? 68.63.236.247 (talk) 09:06, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Same here report it at Village pump technical (Wp:Vpt) VarunFEB2003 09:25, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Exactly the same thing happens in Firefox and Opera. Dbfirs 12:34, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Unsourced & unencyclopedic article

    Hey folks, I'm not a complete newbie but I'm sorta stumped here. Look at Fritz Christen. Zero inline refs. A couple of sources listed though. However, also highly unencyclopedic/dubious ("he killed a hundred guys!") content & a several months old refimprove. Now unsourced stuff may/ought to be removed, obviously – but in this case that would be removing basically the entire article! So a PROD? An AfD? Pruning the body so it is seemingly more plausible and not overly contentious? But then it would boil down to "he fought on the Eastern Front, got a medal and was captured" and it doesn't solve the unsourcedness (whew!) of the whole thing. --CCCVCCCC (talk) 09:48, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    A number of Knight's Cross recipients are currently up for Afd. The consensus is that this award is not quite on the same level as the Medal of Honor or Victoria Cross, which both automatically confer notability, because the Knight's Cross was awarded much more freely during the latter stages of the war. Complicating matters is the fact that he was awarded it early on. I'd suggest running it through Afd to see what the experts think. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:06, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    My best advice is to do a WP:BEFORE, meaning look it up on Google or some other search engine. Yes, you will get a bunch of junk, but also you can find sources like this and this and this plus a Video on YouTube. Yes, they are in German, but what would you expect for a Nazi? Use translation programs. So my advice to editors who want to make wikipedia better. If you see a problem, fix it. Trackinfo (talk) 10:10, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]
    Hard to tell, but those don't look like reliable sources, and the video's been taken down, so I stand by my recommendation. Clarityfiend (talk) 10:14, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

    Referencing errors on Devil facial tumour disease

    Reference help requested. My first time editing and changing a citation, it seems to have introduced a error, but not sure how to fix it. Any assistance appreciated. Thanks, Kevbonham (talk) 13:33, 1 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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