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Jag är Ikea.
This user stands with Sweden.
Je suis Ikea.


Holiday card

Wishing you a Charlie Russell Christmas,
Drmies!
"Here's hoping that the worst end of your trail is behind you
That Dad Time be your friend from here to the end
And sickness nor sorrow don't find you."
—C.M. Russell, Christmas greeting 1926.
Montanabw(talk) 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

Iryna Harpy (talk) is wishing you Seasons Greetings! Whether you celebrate your hemisphere's Solstice or Christmas, Diwali, Hogmanay, Hanukkah, Lenaia, Festivus or even the Saturnalia, this is a special time of year for almost everyone!

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec16a}} to your friends' talk pages.

Dolly Rudeman

This is wot I was thinking of; hope you can assist, but if not possible, totally understandable. On the assumption you don't want to spend your weekends doing other people's work of course  :) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 14:48, 18 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm half expecting my PhDville to get bulldozed to make way for an intergalactic highway at some point ;) but thanks for looking into our Dolly, everyone :) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 11:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So I spent £13 Including P&P on a copy of her poster of Battleship Potemkin, thinking that if a monkey can do it, so can I ;) but apparently not. FFS! -to coin a phrase. O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 21:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Precious five years!

Precious
Five years!

Thank you also for the help above! - Did you follow the discussion on classical music (Reger), which eventually may need someone to merge two articles, not so much the content as the complicated histories? - I heard the Dutch violinist mentioned further up in a concert conducted by Dirk Kaftan. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Thank you, my dear Gerda; it is much appreciated, though my contributions in article space are minuscule compared to yours, and so are my contributions to articles you worked on. So no, I have not followed the discussion, and if time permits I will look at it in the next day or two. Thank you again, and thank you also for you many improvements to our beautiful project. Drmies (talk) 19:06, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, - one thing about precious is not to compare ;) - some get it for their first DYK, some for gnomish edits, - we all do what we can. - I noticed strange moves of user pages just now, by User:R-athrill, please take a look. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The strange moves were repaired, no need to look ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:22, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I would create Category:Editors who wish they will one day be considered precious by Gerda, but after the LHvU category debacle I'm sure it would be deleted forthwith.--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 22:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Such people could just nominate themselves on the talk page, also suggest others, also pass Precious themselves. It's an easy template now that everybody can fill. - I don't have my eyes everywhere, and typically stop looking when I found one a day. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:32, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No self-noms or handouts for me, I'll earn it the hard way or die trying :) --Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 23:46, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, it's Ponyo; that means it's a party. Gerda, please grab the cheese and crackers (the good cheese, from the back of the cheese drawer), and I'll get us a beer. We are having a Van Honsebrouck Fond Tradition. If you don't like it sour, and yeasted au naturel, you're out of luck. Woohoo! Drmies (talk) 23:55, 20 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
A beer should emulate its drinker; I have a strong preference for cold and bitter. Cheers!--Jezebel's Ponyobons mots 00:30, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Haha, I think Bishonen would agree that sour and au naturel fits me like a glove. I may have an IPA for you--these gueuzes are pretty light anyway, and I wouldn't mind more beer. It's President's Day! Yay! Drmies (talk) 00:32, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
...what beer emulates the president I wonder :) O Fortuna!...Imperatrix mundi. 05:25, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The president doesn't drink. Drmies (talk) 15:33, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
At ALL?! Not even dihydrogen monoxide? Holy liquid abstinence, Bicyclerepairman! Must be a super-power of some sort 47.222.203.135 (talk) 16:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies, thanks for Biber. Do you think the musician with whom she played might have been this one? You don't have to make proper refs, just your nice prose and a url with a title ;) - Any trace of the Beethoven she must have played at the Concertgebouw? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:49, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
You're welcome. Yes, there was more, and maybe I'll have another look. I'll look at that name, and for the Beethoven show. I want to check out the video in that article, BTW, but I gotta run--I'm busy today, and I just pinged you from an alternate reality; no need to jump on anything, just fair warning that I'm spreading your name around as a seasoned DYK contributor. :) Drmies (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

122.104.7.121

Did you think that the single edit that they made justified a block...? 172.58.41.136 (talk) 02:53, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Accused sockie

Someone made a claim that disruptive IP editor 1.43.198.170 is a sockie of another IP (1.42.173.32). What do you think? Quis separabit? 03:00, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive edits and hate propagating by a long-term vandal

Hi Drmies,

There are ongoing problems regarding a disruptive racist editor who was indefinitely blocked last year per WP:NOTHERE. Hassan Rebell, justifiably, was blocked by @JzG: on 14 December. After his "long" messages and apologies on his talk page, user @Beeblebrox: gave him a "chance" and reduced his block on 24 January. However, only a few weeks later, I noticed that he began editing thorugh his "confirmed" ips (see Rebell's talk page) with exactly the same agenda [1 for months 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7,8,9 (...) After his "Swiss" ips became "notorious", he abandoned them for a while and since June 2016, he has been editing from Germany 1, 2. As I proved on the SPI with dozens of diffs, those German and Swiss ips belong to the long-term vandal Lrednuas Senoroc/Hassan Rebell. Plus, the checkuser also agreed that those ips belong to the same editor. However, no action was taken since his sock account was  already "soft-blocked" for impersonating user:Kintetsubuffalo and he has not edited via his other account, Rebell, for a long time, despite he is very active with various ips and proxies. As I mentioned on the SPI case, the sockmaster "intentionally" impersonating other editors in order to escape "hard-block". It seems to me that, impersonating other editors is the "tactic" of this sockmaster: When his disruptive/suspicious accounts are noticed, they are first blocked for impersonating other editors, before blocked for socking or disruptive editing. And thereby, they become "soft-blocked", instead of "hard-blocked" Exactly the same problem has occured in the 09 January 2016 case (Kinetsubuffalo). Plus, he uses this situation as an excuse. Two of his accounts were blocked for impersonating other editors, it is obviously not a "coincidence", but a tactic. 

The same disruptive sockmaster was warned many times by various users for his problematic, "hateful" edits targeting a minority ethnic group: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 (...) And finally, he was warned @Doug Weller: for the same reason 1, 2. Despite all these warnings and SPI cases, exactly the same problem continues 1. The last SPI case was closed on 22 February, and he has came with a "new" ip range on 25 February. On the SPI case, I have proved with multiple diffs that the proxy ip "81.253.60.172", German ips and Hassan Rebell are the same editor and thereby the "new" ip "130.180.67.198" from Germany, obviously the same vandal. In other words, he is still active on WP and continues editing as if nothing has happened. If he had used an account, he would have been banned 100 times, but no one can do anything because he is abusing plenty of ip ranges and only "soft-blocked" because of "impersonating" other editors. This is unfair. 

In order to solve this problem I request:

  • Re-blocking for Hassan Rebell, since he continues "exactly" (even worse) the same behavior/edits that was led to the block and he is still active though he edits when logged-out. Also, I request hard-block for his impersonator accounts Lrednuas Senoroc and Kinetsubuffalo, since it is not a "coincidence", but a tactic.
  • Semi-protecting certain articles that were often targeted by him. Since he uses "plenty of" ip ranges and proxies, the range block does not work and semi-proctecting is the most effective solution in this case. In fact, he edited numberless articles but it is impossible to protect all of them. But, at least, certain articles that are constantly targeted by him should be semi-protected. Namely: Kurdish women, History of the Kurds, Origin of the Kurds, Kurdish mythology, Kurdish culture, Kurdistan, Persecution of Christians, Christianity in the Middle East and Christianity in Iraq. 

Bests, 46.221.221.199 (talk) 20:43, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

*88.128.80.108 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

The long-term vandal is back now. Unblocking is just encouraging him. 46.221.168.189 (talk) 21:02, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I hope I can find one admin who cares this ongoing vandalism! Seems nobody cares! @JzG:, @Ponyo:, @Ian.thomson:, @JamesBWatson:, @Doug Weller:, @DoRD: 46.221.168.189 (talk) 22:26, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Drmies:, so you think that everthing is OK! I BET you don't even read the case, and even what i have wrote above. Just read the case thoroughly and the contribs of him. Many users, including admins, noticed his disruptuve edits many times! This is really unbeliveable. 46.221.168.189 (talk) 22:49, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I spend my hours and provide dozens of diffs, mentioned the problems regarding the SPI case and you simply reject all of them even without reading it. This case is complicated and you cannot understand it by looking just a " bunch of things". And yes, i do believe that many of admins are just careless. 46.221.168.189 (talk) 23:00, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As I said many times, this vandal is a "professional" and knows well how to escape hard-block. I suggest some solutions and i hope an admin, who read it "thoroughly" will do what need to do. You said that "it wasn't already be done on SPI?", and the checkuser told me that " it is not the work of checkusers". This is really weird. 46.221.168.189 (talk) 23:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • There is little point in running CU on those IPs. Blocks have to be behavioral. What I looked at was already a few days old and many of the diffs are much older--there is no point in blocking old IPs. I didn't say "everthing is OK"; don't put words in my mouth. And I did read the case, and what you wrote above. But let me ask you, why do you come to me? You got a half dozen people working on this already--am I like the Lady who helps those whom no one helps? You asked for articles to be protected--I looked at two articles and saw no need for protection. If you think admins are just careless, don't waste your time--judging from your words I'm no better than the lot of them. Drmies (talk) 00:05, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sigh...I did not even request "blocking IPS". In contrast, i have said that it doesn't work, since he has plenty of ip ranges! And can't you see, i have showed that he is still active "now", not stale. Also i have provided those "OLD" diffs to make you see that this user has been editing wikipeia for a long time with the same racist agenda. Plus, even the checkuser agreed that they belong to Lrednuas Senoroc/Hassan Rebell. Is this a JOKE? Are you sure that you really read it? And I came to you because I noticed that you are online and admin, ok? But it was a mistake, i do accept it. 46.221.163.219 (talk) 00:27, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Give me a recent IP with recent disruptive edits and we'll talk. Drmies (talk) 01:51, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Doktoro

Having moved here to Earth, from Gallifrey, what is your opinion of the European diaspora (AfD discussion)? ☺ Uncle G (talk) 21:09, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Mascitelli, Bruno; Mycak, Sonia; Papalia, Gerardo, eds. (2016). The European Diaspora in Australia: An Interdisciplinary Perspective. Cambridge Scholars Publishing. ISBN 9781443894197. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
The flagporn is obnoxious. LadyofShalott 21:18, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • My dear Uncle, what a joy to see you here: it is a day of happiness--I also just got a record player! Anyway, as far as I know "Diaspora has come to refer particularly to historical mass dispersions of an involuntary nature", so the word is not appropriately used, in my opinion. And Cambridge Scholars Publishing is not widely accepted as a righteous outfit... Drmies (talk) 22:37, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have found a source that calls it by another name. It is however, published by people almost as disreputable as the Aussies. As I am sure the good Onion Lady will agree, we are of course writing an encyclopaedia for people who do not read books. That is why we have all of the flags, to make it easier to not read. Uncle G (talk) 22:46, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
      • Altman, Ida; Horn, James P. P., eds. (1991). "To Make America": European Emigration in the Early Modern Period. University of California Press. ISBN 9780520072336. {{cite book}}: Invalid |ref=harv (help)
  • "Writing a New Caribbean", three-part series on BBC Radio 4 (available online). I heard the first one on Trinidadian literature and was entranced. Sorry about the plug- looking at the blue-on-blue map in that article at the blue-and-grey Hispaniola put me in mind of it. Xanthomelanoussprog (talk) 03:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You've been reported.

Dear editor:

As the rules require (and as a courtesy), I am notifying you: You and 2 or 3 other editors have been reported:

Link 1: here and Link 2: here.

Best luck in getting resolution.47.192.18.128 (talk) 03:56, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

West Virginia has 3500 year old cypress trees? And lovely oaks hung with Spanish moss. And crystal springs? Doug Weller talk 06:09, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
"Welcome to South Florida the rules are different here
The government is broke
but that's just a joke
come back and spend some more money next year
South Florida, where they pay morality cops to go to topless bars every day
To watch women dance in the nude, what a great way to receive your daily pay
And welcome to South Florida
A drive by shooting can cost you your life."
Sadly I don't remember the rest of the lyrics (of a song played by a 1980s and 1990s radio talk show host in South Florida where I lived then and now) except "if you put your head in underwear you can be a county commissioner instead." 20 years have passed and I'm sure I botched some of the lyrics. I tried my best. Where's the woman in the thong bikini selling hot dogs these days?...William, is the complaint department really on the roof? 14:51, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well that's lovely. In line with Boris's comment, I feel more justified than ever in saying that we (Alabama) should get the panhandle. Culturally speaking it's exactly the same, and we need the coastline. Florida has enough. Drmies (talk) 15:13, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
But that's really just the southeast coast down to below Homestead. The center and warps bits are quite different as are the Keys. My dad worked in the Everglades for over a year buying land for the park. Doug Weller talk 18:38, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ping, There might be more in the pipe - Mlpearc (open channel) 18:46, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see Mlpearc likes to give his friends inside information. You cannot talk about me behind my back. Stephaniesoftball (talk) 23:34, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Even worse article

NaadaKalasi. Please someone either help it or put it out of its misery. The only indication of what the heck the article is talking about is the fact that it has an article on Kannada-wiki. The article creator is a bit odd too. Softlavender (talk) 17:29, 27 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Move along, folks. IP has stopped edit warring and has thus staved off a block."

This is a really shabby way to close a thread where I was obviously being jerked around. I guess being an admin doesn't guarantee WP:CIVIL, eh? Pfft.184.145.42.19 (talk) 03:50, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm talking about the words you used. Being a "scientist" (whatever the hell that has to do with anything), you should grasp that Wikipedia is pretty much entirely predicated on words. The ones you used tend to belittle others, and because you're an admin, you should use them more judiciously than others. Why don't you give it a try, champ?184.145.42.19 (talk) 21:47, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

User:BethOnei

This is obviously User:Nsmutte. Would you be willing to check for any possible sleepers? Thanks! 172.58.41.159 (talk) 03:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Whoever it is is an idiot--and I already checked. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 04:01, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • You were right, thanks. I keep forgetting I actually participated in that ban conversation, that's how exciting this person is. I didn't find anyone else, but hey, tomorrow they may be in Goa or Kerala. I'm glad they have a mission in life; I wish improving their English was another. Drmies (talk) 04:17, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Pilling on nonsense

I am not whole sure what you mean by my making nonsense allegations, perhaps you would care to explain?Slatersteven (talk) 16:25, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I meant to place that under your earlier comment, "He does not think the rules apply to him (that is clear form my interaction with him) and that he treats ANI's (and AE) as another tool in his pseudoscience. Frankly this is a joke", but accidentally put it under your proposal for sanctions. "Another tool in his pseudoscience" is particularly inappropriate. Drmies (talk) 16:33, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I left out the word "war", which might have made what I meant clear. And I stand by it, it was clear from his talk page comment [1] that he see's things in a battle ground light and reads to me just like that, he has fought this battle many times (and many of the users he has opposed have been banned), well it is how I read it (note this thread was in response to the question of should I be topic banned). So can you see why I might think this user uses threats of bans (and thus ANI and AE) as a tool to silence users with whom he is in dispute with over pseudoscience?Slatersteven (talk) 16:41, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
That does make an important difference--but I am not going to accuse anyone of a battleground attitude unless I've seen the evidence for it, and in this case it really seemed as if you came by only to throw shade at jps based on an unrelated incident. But thanks for the clarification, Drmies (talk) 17:32, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Uh sorry ...

... if my last interaction with you seemed a bit grumpy. Paul August ☎ 16:58, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Haha, that's OK, thanks. I like to think of us as being in the beginning of a rocky but hopefully fruitful relationship. We've bumped heads once or twice at AfDs, but I do appreciate this note--you're obviously a bigger person than I am (since I could have said the same), and you have one of the coolest names around. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

COI?

Doc and stalkers: take a look at the edits by Tariq Durrani. Seems they joined us February 24 and have been adding their own works as references to a number of articles, which articles typically don't need additional references. Note the heads up to the new user from @Ariadacapo: on the user's Talk page. Seems like a conflict of interest, is it not? Adding one's own works, I mean. Thought I'd check with the wiser heads around here before I reverted the rest. Geoff | Who, me? 18:43, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"This is where it started..."

No mas.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

If you had anything like a conscience, you'd have looked at all of User:Nfitz's comments (chronologically). Instead, you cherry-picked the first instance of me giving the slightest bit of snark while ignoring four instances of rudeness from the other editor. Disgusting.184.145.42.19 (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

What an eloquent lesson in civil discourse. Beeblebrox (talk) 21:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
No, IP, there were no four instances of rudeness from the other editor before your comment. "Disgusting"--what are you, the president? Drmies (talk) 02:28, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A short block may be the solution...

Thank you for closing the second ANI thread in a row.

I'm gonna be honest, I didn't actually read him message on my talk page before reverting. The title and the single line that was visible in the notification was enough. I said in my edit summary that if he posted that again on my talk page I would ask you to block him, but now after reading the full thing I looked at some of his other edits after the most recent close, including here, and I think maybe a block might allow him to cool down a bit.

This assumes, of course, that what looks increasingly like WP:NOTHERE behaviour is just a frustrated reaction to the AFD not going his way.

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 01:25, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hijiri, I love you like a fellow editor, but please don't say "I'll ask Drmies to block you"--it makes me less likely to block someone. Anyway, that was a shitty remark, sure, and I'm out of patience too. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
(Double (edit conflict) followed by loading error that deleted this commented but not the one below that I had copied.) Yeah, I know. Normally when I say "If you do x I will ask an admin to block you" or some such, I'm not talking about you, since I know that would generally be your response. The reason I named you here is because you essentially threatened to block them a few hours earlier if they didn't drop the stick. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I've had a distinct sense of déjà vu from their WP:IDHT and WP:CIV issues. I'm all for giving a user a WP:LASTCHANCE; but at some point, the user is going to burn through community collective patience. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:10, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Believe it or not, I had the same feeling. I went back and checked, but decided against mentioning it here until someone else did. I posted in a bunch of ANI threads around that one, and had read through it when it was live. It gave me a good chuckle, but I decided to avoid posting in it at the time. After going back and checking, I'm now pretty sure this is a NOTHERE case, but I too don't mind giving a last chance. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:30, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
This IP wore my patience out over a month ago, pretty much right after they started editing. Certainly a WP:NOTHERE case, with a good amount of WP:WL. Garchy (talk) 18:28, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I should have clicked Barek's link first - looks like they also posted to the ANI above. Garchy (talk) 18:32, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fuchsia

Sorry for changing the name of the article. I didnt know it was against the rules. I just thought it would be funnier with that new name.EbonyandIvory (talk) 18:09, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Arunvijay

Hi Drmies

Thanks for your input on Arunvijay, I had just typed the lines and I was about to add the references to the article but I think you would have thought that the information was inaccurate as there were no references. Both of us were reviewing the article at the same time hence the confusion. Thanks Kavinsp 05:36, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

  • I saw your subsequent edits--we're talking about this digital thing, right, and I think you added a hindutimes link? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:23, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yes, the digital thing. I added two links for that. I saw your list of contributions, great work. Wikipedia would be glad to have people like you.Kavinsp 07:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)

IP Poker

I'll see[2] your Kurt[3] and raise you a Louis[4]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 07:19, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm. Thanks. Was not familiar with that poet or his work. (I just did some old man lecturing and bureaucrat hectoring...) The conclusion is a bit tricky to follow, in part I think because of that "otherwise". Thanks BrownHairedGirl. Drmies (talk) 16:22, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That AN/I Mess

Yup, I mean the edit by the IP as vandalism not Nfitz. I reverted it, simply because it was. Don't really have a comment on everything else. RickinBaltimore (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Offtopic Barnstar
For your contribution in merrily derailing Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bar Keepers Friend (2nd nomination) Jytdog (talk) 23:11, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sock drawer

These "two" editors (both with under 260 edits each) have showed up on three different pages only to agree with each other in edit wars against either EEng or Malik Shabazz: [5]. PrincetonNeuroscientist has already edited logged out to evade 3RR [6], and after I warned him about logged-out editing [7] he seems to be editing as his apparent sock to evade 3RR: [8]. Thoughts? Softlavender (talk) 15:05, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

 In progress. I don't want us to duplicate the same work, Drmies.--Bbb23 (talk) 15:21, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I had the same thought about this pair. Even though you piss me off a lot, Bbb, thanks. EEng 15:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Out of evil good will come forth. Drmies (talk) 18:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Eurovision Song Contest

"A fascination with the Eurovision Song Contest is always questionable"?? I beg your pardon? The ESC is the high point of the year in this country. But then I suppose we already knew it was a questionable country! Bishonen | talk 11:47, 5 March 2017 (UTC).[reply]

  • I think you just answered your own question, yes. :) Pardon is granted. If that's your high point, I'll be glad to send you a catalog of naughty things or an REO Speedwagon CD. Drmies (talk) 02:30, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • So I was outside setting up our new tent, taking a nap with Liam, making muffins, cooking flank steak in the slow cooker, etc. etc.--and you got all the action today? Good for you! Drmies (talk) 03:01, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kuttram 23

Hi Drmies, I just wanted to know if there is any way you could block edits to a particular page for a temporary period of time. Over the past few hours there have been several instances of vandalism by two users on Kuttram 23.The film is running in theatres right now and I guess some people who dont like the film are trying to vandalise the article. It would be great if you could give some suggestions on this issue.ThanksKavinsp (talk) 17:39, 5 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Kavinsp, I don't see the vandalism--I removed a copyvio, and there's a bunch of IP edits without edit summary, but I don't see vandalism, certainly nothing that would warrant protection. If you see such vandalism, make sure that you revert it with a clear edit summary, so that us administrators can see what's going on. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 03:04, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thanks for taking a look at it Drmies, the edits were actually made by two users: 78.100.85.177 and 2405:205:8107:d641:e7ef:bc81:7830:6c57 on March 5.I am not sure if it was done intentionally or accidentally. The edits were reverted back to its original by user:ClueBot NG. It has been almost a day since those edits, so I guess there would be no problem henceforth. I will keep a look on the article and let you know if any issue arises. Thanks a lot. Kavinsp (talk) 05:25, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
    • Sure thing. I'm usually not hesitant to semi-protect when something is happening, as seems to be the case here, but so many of the IP edits I saw seemed positive, or at least not disruptive. Drmies (talk) 15:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Extra eyes

By which I mean, the two you already have. The subject is high profile, and it looks like someone who knows them is removing content they don't like at Anthony Scaramucci. Thoughts and comments appreciated. Very best, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 03:47, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Scaramucci, Scaramucci, will you do the Fandango?!
Thank you, Dr. I do try to save some of the more interesting ones for you. And thank you, Fortuna--well played! 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:10, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Another WP:SPA has removed the passage sourced to a recent New York magazine interview, again. Methinks some COI accounts are trying to polish this up, and as an IP I can not restore the paragraph, because Mr. Scaramucci cursed a bit--the sensors (censors) think I'm trying to vandalize the article. If I register to do so it kind of looks like I'm using WP:MULTIPLE accounts to war, so I'm requesting some sort of help. Thanks, 2601:188:1:AEA0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 20:30, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

BLP violation in an edit summary?

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The far-right blogosphere is loving this "Obama did it too!" false equivalence of we are all descended from folks who came from someplace else — whether they arrived on the Mayflower or on a slave ship with they [slaves] too had a dream that one day their sons, daughters, grandsons, granddaughters, great grandsons, great granddaughters might pursue prosperity and happiness in this land. Is it worth removing the edit summary?

Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 21:32, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Well, it's a half-truth at best, but I wouldn't call it a BLP violation worthy of revdeletion. SlackerDelphi, you owe it to the world and yourself to be less...profligate with the truth. Context matters--greatly--and so does tone. Besides, "he did it too", even if it were correct, is hardly a good reason. I'm no fan of "controversy" sections, but the conscientious editor and citizen will have noticed that Carson was criticized particularly by African-Americans. Obama was not. That means something--and no, it doesn't mean that they were being partial; it means that what Carson and Obama said was not the same thing. One generated controversy, the other not. Drmies (talk) 23:27, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, you're right on the money, except for the "controversy sections" bit. It's not a controversy section but a section about his tenure; he was confirmed a few days ago and literally the only thing he's done since then (that RSes appear to be talking about) is equate slavery to immigration. Maybe in a year or two he will have accomplished some more, the section will have grown, and mentioning this first "minor" controversy from the week he entered office will be a WEIGHT problem, but I'm not holding my breath.
The funny part is that the original text somewhat confusingly implied he was criticized for saying that slaves worked harder than others in America; that is there in the source, but it was just clumsy wording, and it's somewhat laughable that it could be read that way.
Oh, and also technically I wasn't talking about revdel. The user didn't add a BLP violation to the article; they removed text. I was talking about removing the edit summary. But I don't really mind if it stays: the question marks were meant to indicate that I was on the fence myself.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:38, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
On the other hand SlackerDelphi looks a lot like a sock of banned User:CFredkin - Texas related politics, same style, same ideology, created right after CFredkin was indef'ed, obvious knowledge of Wikipedia policies and mark up, etc. This may also be him, based on two very similar and consecutive (switching accounts) edits at the Kellyanne Conway article [10] [11], but I'm less sure of that one.Volunteer Marek (talk) 00:01, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
@Volunteer Marek: You could well be right. If it were an established contributor acting in good faith I would have thought twice before reverting, but the edit-summary combined with a brief scan of their edit history made it pretty obvious their motives were not on the up-and-up, and I wouldn't be surprised if they were a sock of previously banned user. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:38, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, I don't think TJetc is one, and I don't know CFredkin well enough. Perhaps Bbb23 can be convinced to run CU--Volunteer Marek, Bbb may want to see a diff or two with some comparisons. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 22:48, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The account is Red X Unrelated to CFredkin.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:33, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions?

Current events have led me to add some to Jackson Street Cemetery. Any ideas on where to go from here? LadyofShalott 04:44, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

POV Pushing in Conservative Articles

By your edit here, are you suggesting that my edits in Ami Horowitz were POV-pushing? The Kingfisher (talk) 08:02, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not understanding. Your "tweak" reverted my revert of Snooganssnoogans, who was POV-pushing and editing against policies that I outlined.
  • No, this edit is a tweak to their revert. It didn't revert anyone. If you want to try and pull a statement about the conflict out of that edit, you might could say that I was looking for a via media between the two of you--including some of the info, and leaving out the enormous number of references which were already used elsewhere in the article. If you want to talk sides, I think I was pretty clearly agreeing with your claim that they were POV pushing. Drmies (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Summary. My mistake was that I didn't write that his short films first aired on FOX, and later generated more than 1 million views.
  • Why was it BLP and why is it not "OK" to use a Daily Mail article as a RS? Thank you. The Kingfisher (talk) 16:38, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Ami Horowitz is alive, so the WP:BLP applies. The Daily Mail is not a reliable source, not to be used in BLPs, and that was already a consensus before the recent RfC (it was in the paper). In short, "waving an ISIS flag" makes little sense in the lead of this article, and "millions of views", meh, no, that's not really neutral writing; you shouldn't link a YouTube video since this is an encyclopedia and we cite secondary sources; the Daily Mail is unreliable; the piece from Fox News is an opinion piece, and OH WAIT I see now that it's by Horowitz, so that's a double no. You can state things about what makes him notable as a "film maker", but you can't really do it in this way. My suggestion is you look at other articles on similar topics, esp. WP:Good Articles, to see how we typically do it. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 17:06, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
I meant what BLP policies was it violating (that you subsequently articulated), not why is his article BLP. I was not aware of the Daily Mail not being a RS. Thanks for the good feedback! The Kingfisher (talk) 17:42, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Sure thing--I'm sorry if I wasn't clear enough the first time--edit summaries are for shorthand. Thanks for following up, Drmies (talk) 22:45, 9 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'll have you run off Arbcom on rail![FBDB]

'urry up, them crabs won't steam themselves you know

[12] EEng 01:57, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A request

Drmies, I was wondering, as the mop who took the initiative to block Hijiri88 the last time he dragged one of his feuds on to my talk page (before anyone even need to ask--that's efficiency), can I ask you to monitor this new situation? I am going to busy with serious professional and homelife obligations the next few days, and I don't care to have it explode all over my page while I am gone. I know it's a big ask, and I'm not asking you to do anything you wouldn't do if you have just stumbled on the situation yourself (as you did last time), but I really don't want to get drawn in to this drama. Snow let's rap 06:10, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Firstly, SR, thank you for notifying me that you were essentially asking for me to be blocked.
I found a very disturbing message written about me on reddit, and it looked like you were the one who wrote it. I asked you if it was you, and, while your response could have been "No. Sorry, but I have no idea who wrote that." or even "No, but that really does look twisted. I hope whoever posted it isn't still editing.", you decided to post a long string of personal attacks against me and, once again, bring up the name of a user I have been IBANned with for two years and who hasn't edited in months. It's impossible to discuss things with you when you constantly do this. I emailed two separate admins about this Yunshui, who said he agreed your behaviour was problematic but didn't want to touch the drahms for the next few months, and User:Boing! said Zebedee who said he'd look it into when he was less busy after that weekend, but I didn't push it beyond that because your most recent flareup had already died down by that weekend. But at this point now that you've dragged Drmies into this I'd be just as happy to have him do the honours.
Drmies: The only reason I didn't email you was because I was fairly certain you wouldn't want to touch this, and I still won't be disappointed if you just hat this sction and tell us both to go away. I'll forward you the email I sent Yunsh and Boing, anyway.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 08:28, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
So let me get this straight. You come to my talk page, out of the blue, and twice make an insulting, serious accusation of misconduct against me without one shred of evidence or even any kind of mental process other than picking my name out of a hat of people who have critically examined your behaviour in ANI threads concerning your social conduct on this project months ago, and I am the one whose behaviour is troubling? Because I wasn't more amiable/sympathetic in answering your demand that I tell you if this random user on another site was me, in the most bewildering, out-of-nowhere moment I've ever had on this project?
I didn't ask Drmies to block you--I asked her to do me the favour of reinforcing (through whatever means she thought appropriate as an admin) my request that you stop posting these insane comments on my talk page, because I knew that you would not respect my request on its own without my seeking administrative assistance in the matter, (and I was absolutely correct), even though policy requires you to leave another user's talk space if they request it, and I shouldn't have to go to an admin to get you to comply. I don't have time to deal with this completely random, unsettling behaviour. I don't know how to tell you this more plainly: your behaviour is making me uncomfortable. I don't know what kind of level you think you have risen to in my mind because I criticized your conduct in some ANI threads, and we locked horns over your behaviour as a result. But I am telling you now, I have no interest in interacting with you further and certainly your entire existence has never meant enough to me for me to even contemplate opening a thread on some other site to bitch about you. If I had something pressing to say about you, you'd know it. Because I'd be saying it directly to you, on this site, in an appropriate forum. But I have no such things to say to you, and I won't.
If you had any kind of sense of how inappropriate and bizarre your conduct is here, you'd apologize for making such comments without any kind of justification. But we both know that is never going to happen, and I don't have any interest in trying to get such an apology from you. I do have an interest in seeing you respect my desire to not have you continue these comments on my talk page, where they cause in me a feeling somewhere between anger and uneasiness. Please do not return there. Snow let's rap 11:08, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Drmies [...] as the mop who [blocked] Hijiri88 the last time he [posted on] my talk page (before anyone even need to ask--that's efficiency), can I ask you to monitor this new situation? [...] I know it's a big ask, and I'm not asking you to do anything you wouldn't do if you have just stumbled on the situation yourself (as you did last time) "Essentially asking for me to be blocked" is a pretty accurate description.
Anyway, if you could avoid questioning my sanity like the above (posting these insane comments, deal with this completely random, unsettling behaviour) I would appreciate it.
Your accusation that I asked you if you were the one who was badmouthing me off-wiki "without one shred of evidence" is completely false. It was obviously someone who was involved in that ANI thread in January (you were more involved than pretty much anyone else), "against" me in that thread (you were one of about three users who could be described this way), who believes I collect IBANs. This last part was especially incriminating since you are the only one who has ever said this about me on-wiki; no one else has drawn this conclusion, because it is laughably wrong -- Drmies knows all to well that I only request IBANs when I think they are necessary and usually request that they be dismantled once that is no longer the case.
But I am telling you now, I have no interest in interacting with you further and certainly your entire existence has never meant enough to me for me to even contemplate opening a thread on some other site to bitch about you. Then leave me the heck alone and stop bringing up random ancient history every time you see me say something you disagree with on a noticeboard. And especially stop trying to game my IBANs by treating them as though they were put in place because I was causing disruption; you know perfectly well that they were put in place to protect me from hounding
I'm not even going to address the rest of the above ridiculous string of attacks.
Drmies, I could not be more sorry this has happened on your talk page. If you want to blank it and tell both of us to shut the hell up and go doing something else ... well, I was going to say I would understand, but actually at this point I would appreciate it myself.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 11:37, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Hijiri88, we have a special department that looks into allegations of off-wiki harassment: ArbCom. Via email please. Drmies (talk) 13:26, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Well, we also have WP:AGF. I know I've developed something of a reputation for taking AGF to somewhat self-destructive levels, but I really thought that if I asked SR if it was him who posted it, I would get a simple "yes" or "no". Yes, in this case I had every reason to assume that what I would actually get would be "No, and you are a terrible person and I will continue attempting to trick you into getting yourself blocked until someone stops me" (regardless of what an honest answer might have been). Anyway, all the evidence I have been able to gather is on SR's talk page, most of it in my first message to him earlier today. If you think it was out of line for me to post it on-wiki, then you can rev-del it and I won't complain (as I've already said multiple times, I want this to be over, or at least to be quieter than it wound up being). I'll send an email with the same information in a bit.
Although for the record: I have a certain amount of experience with off-wiki harassment, and I don't think anyone ever told me ArbCom was the place to go back when that 2013-2014 JoshuSasori stuff was going down. I didn't want to discuss it on-wiki for other reasons, but I don't recall anyone saying I should email ArbCom specifically.
Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 14:06, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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