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	I am very impressed with your work on the article Origin of the Hermits Friars of the Order of St. Augustine and His Real Institution Before the Great Lateran Council. It is the best AfD save I have seen in a while. SL93 (talk) 15:58, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you that’s very kind! It was a bit of a crazy rabbit hole to go down but quite enjoyable to explore. All the best Mccapra (talk) 16:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

I nominated it for DYK at Template:Did you know nominations/Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council. Feel free to suggest better hooks. SL93 (talk) 01:53, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

That’s great thank you. I’ve never done a DYK before and I’m about to jump in the car and drive to Croatia so I’m not going to be able to contribute much for the next few days. I’ve just moved the article to a new title and corrected the grammar mistake I spotted in your hook that came from the text I wrote: should be ‘older’ rather than ‘oldest’. My suggested hook would be ‘DYK that in 1618 a Spanish theologian claimed St. Francis of Assisi had been an Augustinian?’ But I’ll have to leave it to you to do as you think best. Many thanks for supporting this. Mccapra (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

Well done, enjoy Croatia --Devokewater@ 13:18, 15 August 2020 (UTC)

I took your suggestion, but I changed the wording to make it "hooky". Your idea was better than mine. SL93 (talk) 14:15, 25 August 2020 (UTC)

"Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 19#Origins of the Hermit Brothers of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Devokewater@ 15:18, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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Move to draft

Hello Mccapra, I wanted to talk to you about an article that you recently moved to draftspace: List of nobles and magnates of France in the 13th century. You said that the reason you moved it was because it lacked sources, but it is a list so according to the notability guidelines "Notability guidelines do not apply to content within articles or lists" --Tgec17 (talk) 13:56, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Tgec17: I’ve moved this discussion to a new section so it’s easier to follow. As you say the guideline says that the content of a list article does not have to be notable. What this means is that we allow lists where some of the individual elements are notable in their own right, and others not. We also allow lists where the topic of the list is notable though none of the individual elements in the list are (these are rarer). The last part of the guideline you referred to also says “Editors are still urged to demonstrate list notability via the grouping itself before creating stand-alone lists.” This is expanded on in WP:LISTN.

I’m pretty sure the topic you are working on is notable so there’s no objection to that. However as the article creator you have to demonstrate notability by including sources that actually discuss the nobility of 13th century France as a topic. Also I’d suggest you look at some means of limiting the list or it will include tens of thousands of people. The fact that not every person in the list has to be independently notable doesn’t mean that the list as a whole can be put together without citing sources. Good luck with it. Mccapra (talk) 04:04, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

a draft page is now ready to be reviewed

this page has now been improved, take a look at it ant see if it is worthy of it now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Toshihiko_Masuda — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jetcold0 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for doing more work on this. I’m a new page reviewer but not an Articles for Creation reviewer so I can’t formally accept this back into main space - another editor will need to do that. However I have looked for possible sources to support this. I’ve only looked in English, not Japanese, but what I’ve found isn’t very encouraging. Following WP:CREATIVE we’re trying to find sources to establish that Masuda ‘played a major role in co-creating’ significant work. That I’m afraid I don’t see. I find occasional mentions of his name, but nothing more, and that’s not enough to support a biography. I imagine there may be better sources in Japanese, but it will take quite a bit to clearly demonstrate Masuda’s notability. This could be reviews of the films that mention him by name; sources indicating that he had some seniority in the collaborations he worked on; other animators praising his work or being critical of it. I guess there is unlikely to be one or two decisive sources so probably you will need to build up a picture of his importance with a larger number of sources. It’s clear that he was in the team that produced all these films but the question is whether his contribution was sufficiently distinctive to support a biography article. I hope that’s helpful, and good luck with it. All the best Mccapra (talk) 04:05, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Translation from Italian

Hello Mccapra, thank you for kindly reviewing the article I created Tuscan Committee of National Liberation. You asked if the article was a direct translation of the Italian Wiki page? The article I created is not a direct copy/paste article which has simply been translated into English. Instead the article was translated into English in order to assist in the basic structure of the article. The listed sources were then used to expand upon this structure in order to add more depth to the article. Hope this answers your query. Thank you kindly --Domersr (talk) 09:33, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi that’s great. That’s what I usually do when I translate - use the other language article as a basis, and add other material, sources etc. The thing is when we do that we have to attribute it correctly for copyright reasons. You’ll see I’ve just added a translation template onto the article talk page. Whenever you base an en.wiki article on one from another wiki, just add that template into the talk page yourself. Happy editing! Mccapra (talk) 16:49, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

DYK for Origins of the Hermit Friars of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council

On 4 September 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Origins of the Hermit Friars of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a 1618 work by scholar Juan Márquez claims that Saint Francis of Assisi (depicted) was probably an Augustinian hermit? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Origins of the Hermit Friars of the Order of Saint Augustine and Their True Establishment Before the Great Lateran Council), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

@SL93: Many thanks for making this happen.Mccapra (talk) 04:56, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

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Re: Here Are the Aguilares!

Hello. Just wanted to inform you that I made some improvements on the Here Are the Aguilares! article that you added some manteinance tags on; mostly on improving the references and adding some notes about its reception. As such, I extend you an invitation so that you can take a look at it and check it out. Cheers.--EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 05:55, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Great, thank you. I’ve removed the article tags. Mccapra (talk) 06:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

moving the article vaibhav saxena to draftspace

Hi Mccapra, I got a notification about you moving an article I created to draftspace, citing lack of sources. I would like to tell you that I kept all the Wikipedia standards while creating this article and used all relevant sources listed in Wikipedia as independent sources for verification. Some of the sources are only available in print media and hindi language which was also referenced. Can I expect a bit of direction and guidance from you as to what all points or things need to be improved or taken care of? The article was also supported by Indian music groups on Wikipedia, though unfortunately, the group is not very active in updating the article. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiloverindia (talk • contribs) 08:59, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi yes of course. Sources 1, 2 and 3 are to YouTube videos which are not acceptable as a source. Source four is an interview, so also not reliable. 5 is a good source. 6 and 7 are fine for verification, but not for notability. 8 is just an online music selling website and not an in-depth review, so not helpful for notability. 9 I’m not sure about as I can’t read it. If it is an independently written piece about him it will be the second source (after source 5) that could support notability. 10 is just another online sales site. So I don’t doubt that the article you’ve written accurately describes the subject and his work. The question is whether he meets WP:CREATIVE. What the article needs is multiple in-depth reviews of his work by independent commentators. That wasn’t evident in the sourcing and that’s why it has gone to draft. Good luck with finding more sources. All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:23, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Really appreciate your response, I know this is a notable source and let me try a bit more into sourcing about him. I hope I can take guidance from you now and then, not disturbing your but surely seeking advice on this one as well as another article that I will start drafting. Bless you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiloverindia (talk • contribs) 07:18, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Mccapra, I appreciate your review of the article on Chilkat State Park and the bowl of strawberries, one of my favorite fruits. I lived on Mud Bay Rd. for many years and climbed Mt. Riley often. It's a beautiful little park and when I saw it was red under the category of Alaska State Parks I knew I needed to begin that article. I hope others can edit it further if they can find other sources. If not it's a cute little article to go with an amazing location for its size. Cheers! Tsistunagiska (talk) 15:21, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Also, anyone visiting Haines, which is near the park, has definitely got to try the fish n chips at the Bamboo Room. I understand it's closed temporarily due to Covid-19 (sad face). Hopefully it reopens. That's just coming from someone who grew up there. Much love!!!Tsistunagiska (talk) 15:30, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Wentworth Park, Nova Scotia

Why did you delete all the text from this article, text that was there with permission as stated on the article's talk page? Did you read the Talk:Wentworth Park, Nova Scotia page where it clearly says "Permission has been received from the copyright holder to release this material under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license. Evidence of this has been confirmed and stored by OTRS volunteers, under ticket number 2020050610005188."

You may have a reason but I don't see what that is.

No you’re right that was my mistake. Actually some of the language in those sections was unencyclopedic and inappropriate as well, but to start with I’ll restore the version immediately before I began editing. All the best Mccapra (talk) 20:57, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

OK I’ve now reverted most of my edits. I have kept the earliest ones though as they were removal of promotional and unencyclopedic language/material that isn’t appropriate for Wikipedia. All the best Mccapra (talk) 21:03, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

I appreciate any edits to improve (or fix) any article I write so thank you. I'm not the best at encyclopedic language either so I appreciate edits for those purposes as well. Ken Heaton (talk) 18:29, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

The following information is no longer there> Is it really all not encyclopedic? Can some of it stay if it is edited?

Hi Ken - no it really isn't encyclopaedic! Our articles are built on short factual statements. There is a great deal of detail here which is relevant in a project promotional piece from a design company (length of paths etc.) and things about 'warm summer days' and feeding the ducks belong in magazine feature articles. You might take a look at other park articles to see how they're described. I really think it would be a good idea to leave it alone now. All the best Mccapra (talk) 19:01, 8 September 2020 (UTC)

Throughout the 1970s and 80s, the park was frequented by residents on Friday nights coming to see live music at the bandshell.

Walking paths

The paths are paved, either asphalt or concrete, 3 metres (10 ft) wide, well maintained, and are plowed and sanded for walkers in winter. The path surrounding the East and Central Ponds is 600 metres (2,000 ft) in length, the path around the West Pond is 575 metres (1,900 ft). There is a large, lighted pedestrian tunnel that passes under the four lanes of King's Road, connecting the west end of the park to the park lands along the shore.

Playground

The children's play area is much loved as one of the only shaded play areas in this section of the City. This is also one of very few areas with benches and available open space. The present Weevos playground at Wentworth Park in located in the east section of the Park, close to the bandshell. This playground is designed for children 2–5 years of age. There are a pair of tables with seat next to the playground. This modern playground was installed as part of the Wentworth Park Revitalization 2004–2010.

Ann Terry Interactive Fountain (splash pad)

The Ann Terry Interactive Fountain is both a lighted fountain feature during the evenings, and a children's splash pad recreation area on warm summer days. The splash pad is for water play and has little or no standing water, eliminating the need for lifeguards or other supervision, as there is little risk of drowning. There are six in-ground nozzles that spray water upwards out of the splash pad's raindeck, following a programmed pattern. The height of the sprays and the number of nozzles spraying increase as the pattern runs. The ground nozzles are controlled by a hand activated bollard button, to run for limited time. The water is fresh town water, the surface is a textured non-slip concrete.

In the evening the fountain starts automatically, the up lighting comes on, and the spray patterns begins, running for several hours as a decorative feature.

Ducks

For many families, feeding the ducks at Wentworth Park is an activity passed on from parents to children for many generations. The park is home to dozens of mallard and American black ducks who live there year-round, and have lived, and been fed in the park for over 50 years. While many residents come to feed bread to the ducks, this type of food is not conducive to the long-term health of the birds. It is recommended to feed the ducks halved grapes, corn, or leafy greens torn into small pieces.

Euromonitor International. Thanks. Please see article Talk/42

Thanks for the heads-up on my Talk page. I categorized the 42 refs (IN Talk:Euromonitor International) and would like to know if the 11 supportive are . . . enough is not the word, since even 22 would not be "enough" but does it make at least a reasonable impression, at least compared to the one-sentence, that it's not as bad as the 2016-deleted article? What made me think of the article was looking at Mintel and wondering why isn't there a counterpart article for Euromonitor. Pi314m (talk) 06:23, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks @Pi314m: that’s a useful summary. Also our article tag saying ‘needs more sources’ isn’t that helpful in this case. It’s actually quite hard to wade through 42 so I don’t think we need more overall. What we need is sources that relate to the notability of the company. For comparison, if we had an article about the Michelin tyre company it would not be helpful to have 42 refs to sources about vehicles that had Michelin tyres. One or two would be fine, but to establish the notability of the topic we’d need sources that talk about Michelin as a firm - founding, changing scope of operations over time, mergers, acquisitions, etc. You’ve got lots of links to sources where Euromonitor’s reports are cited, but that doesn’t support the notability of the firm itself. Mccapra (talk) 06:54, 9 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for the article reviews. Best wishes from Los Angeles,   // Timothy :: talk  19:44, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Sambandh film moved to draft

Hi, one of the sources I took material for this film was the imdb (Internet movie database). Is that counted as a non-reliable source? Srirangam99 (talk) 04:54, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

I’m afraid that’s right. IMDB is user-generated so can’t be used as a source on Wikipedia. If you can find reviews of the film in reliable media, that’s what we need (not blogs, online forums etc.). All the best Mccapra (talk) 05:52, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Delayed Thank You!

Thank you for the kitten and review of my article on Paul Herman Rohland. Still learning but enjoying working in Wiki! KSS (talk) 14:59, 11 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!

Thank you for your review of the pages for Ervin Chartrand and Yorkton Film Festival Golden Sheaf Award - Aboriginal. Kind Regards, LorriBrown (talk)

Moving article to draft space

I have been involved with Wikipedia since 2005. It is only in the last couple of years that my new articles occasionally get moved to the draft space. I assume this reflects a new consensus procedure and I don't object to it. Nonetheless, it raises the cost of creating new articles and takes away form the 'crowd sourcing' potential that has always been Wikipedia's USP. I don't see why editors don't try to improve articles themselves rather than moving them to the draft space. But never mind, the point of this message is to just make you aware that the experience of feeling my submissions are unwelcome is making me lose interest in participating in the Wikipedia community. If this is an issue for me, I expect it is also an issue for others, so it perhaps is worth mentioning. --Tibetologist (talk) 12:12, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Tibetologist:. Thanks for your message and sorry for taking so long to reply. I’m responding here rather than below to avoid getting two conversations tangled up. First of all I really don’t want to discourage you from creating articles! I don’t know how things worked in 2005 but you’re right much has changed since then, including the introduction of New Page Review. I guess you already know that if you are a long-standing editor with a track record of creating articles on notable topics you can apply to become autopatrolled? That way your articles won’t appear in the new pages feed and you won’t be bothered by any more reviewers.

Anyway there’s a couple of things I wanted to say in reply. It’s just not the case that long-standing articles in other wikis necessarily show the notability of a translated topic. That argument is knocked down pretty much every week at AfD. Sometimes a new en.wiki article only has ‘indicative sourcing’ but when I look at the related article on the other wiki I see that notability is established by sustained coverage in multiple reliable independent sources. In that case the new pages passes review with no problems.

In the specific case of the article you translated on Heinz Schuster-Šewc, the original did not show this. The de.wiki article had a single source, and that was to the subject’s home institution. It’s well established at AfD that this isn’t sufficient to pass WP:PROF. At AfD the onus is on the nominator to show that there are not sources, but at New Page Review the onus is on the creator to show that there are. If that hasn’t been done then the article should not remain in mainspace.

Stub articles, partial translations etc are all fine and there’s no reason a topic has to be ‘finished’ in order to come into mainspace. It can be developed by others as you say. The big exception to this is notability. We don’t accept articles into mainspace if the topic might be notable. Providing the sources to demonstrate the topic is notable is down to the creator.

Anyway I hope you’re able to find additional sources and Heinz Schuster-Šewc can come back into mainspace before too long. All the best Mccapra (talk) 03:32, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

I don't know the relevant policies and ask your indulgence in telling me what current conventions are. My new pages tend to be on niche subjects, because I like to avoid edit wars. The reason I translated Heinz Schuster-Šewc is because he is author of the only Sorbian etymological dictionary. My argument for notability would be. Sorbian as a language is certainly notable. In general the most famous historical or etymological dictionary of a language is treated as notable (many English and Chinese dictionaries have articles). So, the only etymological dictionary of Sorbian is perforce deserving of an article, and if a book deserves an article, then the author must deserve an article. I could of course find book reviews, of the dictionary, or citations of it, etc. but I don't really want to spend that much time working on articles on Sorbian dictionary articles, because, well, I have a job and other hobbies. My usual rule is that I write articles for things that I look for on Wikipedia and don't find, but it does mean that I tend to not be an expert in the relevant area. Tibetologist (talk) 15:39, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Ha! That's interesting. I love finding sources. It's half the fun for me, though it is time-consuming. Mccapra (talk) 16:38, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Ilse Helling-Rosenthal

Please move her back to article space asap. Can you next time please simply request references, when a historic woman is clearly notable? Our readers are not well served by a link to a redirect page to draft with a "should be deleted" tag. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:51, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Gerda Arendt: thank you for adding further sources. I’ve tried to move the draft back to mainspace but as the old article title has not been deleted, I can’t do that yet. Once the deletion has taken place I’m happy to move it back. I’m afraid that without the sourcing added today, the subject was not ‘clearly notable’, at least to me. All the best Mccapra (talk) 18:53, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok I see someone else has just done it. Mccapra (talk) 19:27, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Fine. I'm not a new pages reviewer, but sometimes think they just count references. If I was one, I'd be inclined to think a subject was notable when she has an article in a different Wikipedia, authority control links, and links within the English Wikipedia. Yes, other referencing systems are different, but I'd just request additional references, especially for a subject from history, without any danger to have something wrong in a BLP. In her case, the "Further reading" pdf referenced substantial parts of the facts, just not inline. The rest was rather easy. I'll get to the last external links and get more details from there, and then send her to DYK. The detour via draft seems a waste of time, and what happens to a reader, clicking on a blue link and finding a redirect to draft, could be annoying. Please no detour next time when LouisAlain is the author ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:40, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gerda thanks for your note. I understand what you are saying. However on your point about how our readers are best served, I think they are best served by article creators putting proper sources into their articles. If you’re asking me to assume that all future articles by a particular editor are notable by default, that’s not going to happen. It did not take long for you to add sources today, and there’s no reason why article creators should expect to avoid giving themselves the trouble of an extra hour or so to put their own sources in by rather than expecting others to do it for them afterwards. I don’t create poorly-sourced new articles in mainspace myself and don’t really understand why some others do. If they do, it’s possible that a reviewer lacking their subject knowledge or the urge to try and piece together the case for notability will just put the work back on them. I appreciate all the work you’ve put into this and I’m glad to see it back in mainspace without undue delay. All the best Mccapra (talk) 19:59, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

You misunderstood me, though. I gave three indicators of notability. What do you think about those? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:09, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi Gerda I really don’t want to have an argument with you. I think I acted reasonably in moving the page to draft, and you think I was wasting time. Thanks to your work the article is back in mainspace and I suggest we leave it at that. Mccapra (talk) 20:17, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

I'm disappointed to hear that you don't want to tell me if my view, that an article in a different language, authority control, and links in the English Wikipedia might indicate notability, makes any sense to you. I dealt with too many articles sent to draft and then rescued to appear on the main page, for my taste. Peace. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)

I would like to concur with Gerda that if someone is notable enough to have a wikipedia article of long standing in language X, eo ipso they are notable enough for an article in another language. The net effect of raising the transaction cost of starting new articles is that fewer will get made. Tibetologist (talk) 08:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for the support, but not exactly my point. LouisAlain keeps producing several translations each day, obvioously rather undisturbed by the drafting. My point is that in Draft space, such incomplete products have less chances to be improved (because not seen by editors) than in article space with simple tags "citation required", preferably at specific facts, not big but unspecific at the top. I just worked against such tags for Mascha Kaléko on her google doodle day. I'd go further, but real life is calling. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

She's on the Main page now. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:54, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

With eight sources! Great! Mccapra (talk) 21:04, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I was tempted to say She formed an ensemble with her husband and his second wife-to-be ..., but thought it wouldn't be nice to make her early death something quirky ;) - Planning to write that article some day, Marta Adam. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: White War (film)

Hi, can you change White War (film) to White War (TV series) because it is not a movie.

Done. Thanks for pointing that out. Mccapra (talk) 01:23, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
	"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted." Thank you for going out of your ways and leaving kind and encouraging messages to many editors, including me. — The Most Comfortable Chair 09:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

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About a page that I edited

I've recently seen your edits on the page and I can say I translated all paragraphs that I translated without any translation machine; I could did some minor mistakes, but definitely not a wrong translation. Thanks for other tag, the sources are not so good though.Ahmetlii (talk) 09:00, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Ahmetlii: thanks for your message and thank you for creating this article in the first place. Wikipedia is a collaborative project so we are all constantly working on articles other people started and developed. We’re not trying to create ‘the perfect article.’ As part of the new page review process, reviewers tag articles to bring certain things to the attention of other editors. For example there is a whole team of editors who work on improving the English in articles that have been translated or were written in English by native speakers of other languages. The way to add an article to their worklist is to add the translation tag to the article. Eventually they will come along and tidy it up.

The article you’ve written is good enough to come into encyclopaedia mainspace but like many other new articles it still needs work. Rather than worrying about this article, I’d encourage you to keep creating new articles to the same standard. Let others work on this one now while you find more topics to create articles on. You may think the text of the current article is ‘good enough’ but I’m telling you it isn’t. It has grammatical errors and in at least one place it is impossible to understand. It is difficult for a native speaker with no knowledge of the subject or of Turkish to make sense of. As most of our readers are not native speakers of English we have to take care that our articles are as clear as possible. I will restore the translation template in a while. Please leave it there and let others work on this now. Creating more articles like this one - or in any other topic you are interested in - is a great contribution to Wikipedia. Thanks again. Mccapra (talk) 05:39, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

How exactly is it a possible copyright violation for the National Lacrosse League on television article?

This link https://www.nll.com/about/history/ was used a solely as a point of reference and guide in terms of important milestone's the NLL's history on television. The NLL isn't like the big 4 North American pro sports leagues, where information about its media coverage is more readily available online. And it isn't like the words from that website were plagirized or copied verbatim. That particular website may give a singular paragraph as as summary, but nothing too in-depth. Instead of wanting to delete the article, why can't you instead, ask for the word structure and phrasing to be altered so that it isn't so obvious that you think it's being copied? BornonJune (talk) 03:50, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Might I add that this site https://www.nll.com/about/history/ doesn't name the announcers, so how exactly am I copying from the content from that there without any additional context? Again, if I just literally look the words verbatim from that site, and put them on Wikipedia, without any thing added or alerted, then I could see your point. BornonJune (talk) 03:55, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi here is the report on which the speedy deletion notice is based. You can see exactly where the text is identical. If you want to edit the article text to remove or alter the sections that are identical, I’m happy to take the deletion notice off. Mccapra (talk) 05:24, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Okay, so I reedited it to where it now has a 34.6% confidence that it unlikely made a copyright violation. BornonJune (talk) 07:36, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks I’ve removed the tag and marked the article as patrolled. All the best Mccapra (talk) 07:37, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

Cüneid Zapsu

Dear Mccapra,

I have notice you have put a notability tag to Cüneid Zapsu. I am trying to understand, why? I am attempting to write about people that actually would deserve an article. Maybe there is not so much known about him but, he co-founded the currently governing party of Turkey (AKP) and was a key figure of the party for years. And he has created and at least co-owns with other members of his family one of the leading hazelnut producers in the world, Balsu. He alone exports more hazelnuts as the very most countries in the world. He is also very well connected in the business sphere, (probably one with the best contacts in Turkey), who gets along well with the Americans (Coca Cola, World Economic Forum etc.) as well as the Russians (Nuclear Energy, Rosatom). As to me he sure is notable, but I'd like to know with what you disagree (or you see still missing) in order to avoid a notability tag in the future. Thank you.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 08:22, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi yes it’s because the standards required for biographies of living people are very high. Please see WP:BLPRS. The article needs more third-party reliable sources. Just being a businessman who was involved in a political party does not make someone notable. All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:01, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Ok, got it, the person itself is not an issue, but the missing of reliable sources. I'll add some sources during the next 24h. More than the one I've just added now in the last few minutes.:) Thanks for the helpful explanationParadise Chronicle (talk) 09:43, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Turkish Conquest

Hello , I have notice you have undone the changes . I am trying to understand, why? The references along with the Arabic page clearly identifying the the nationalities of the soldiers and the army. I was wondering why you haven't initiated a discussion with me to point you to the sources before editing the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allamiro (talk • contribs) 22:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi I haven’t undone all of your changes but I did undo your insertion of a paragraph that has no sources at all. If you have sources for this material will you put them in please? Mccapra (talk) 22:47, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

User: Mccapra keeps reverting the pages for all the users who attempt to correct the page Egyptian to Turkish. Sources are already there. Mccapra always asking for sources for every word edited including the title . The Arabic page says Turkish and the English page says Egyptian. In addition to that all sources cited on both pages cite Turkish . Muhamed ali pasha though he lives in egypt was never egyptaian not an Egyptian born , doesn't even speak Arabic , no Egyptian relatives his main army wasn't based on Egyptian, his appointment are from ottomans .. I m not sure what we need to prove here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allamiro (talk • contribs) 19:43, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for your encouraging feedback about Norma Wendelburg! T. E. Meeks (talk) 23:18, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

Moving pages to Draft space

Hello, Mccapra,

Just a reminder, please do not leave a redirect when you move a page from Article or Talk space to Draft space. These redirects need to be deleted as CSD R2 cross-space redirects and, for some reason, they sometimes don't show up in the Speedy Deletion category even after the page has been tagged. It's simpler to just not create a redirect in the first place. Thanks for all of your work! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:55, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

ok thanks I think I’ve obviously missed something there so thanks for pointing it out. Mccapra (talk) 20:57, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh, it's okay, they are very simple, uncontroversial deletions. The only issue is that sometimes the tagged pages don't show up in appropriate categories and get missed. Thanks for your work moving undersourced articles back to Draft space. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:08, 29 September 2020 (UTC)

@Liz: Mccapra isn't a page mover, and only page movers and admins can choose to not leave redirects. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:02, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks both. I’ve started tagging each redirect with Db-r2 now after I send the article to draft space. If I’m not doing the right thing please advise. Mccapra (talk) 04:08, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

There's no need to do that yourself; the script you're using already adds the tag, so you just end up with 2 malformed tags on the page. Jackmcbarn (talk) 04:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

ok thanks very much I’ll stop then. All the best Mccapra (talk) 04:16, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, I did not know that, Jack. Glad it all seemed to work out. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 04:54, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

move from draftspace

Hi Mccapra, As Mohammad Al-Hasan Al-Dido moved to draftspace , now I've added more reliable, and independent sources. And I've expanded the article . Please have a look, and move it to be an article . Many thanks . --Imad_J (talk) 08:43, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

OK thanks I'll take a look at the sources later today. Mccapra (talk) 10:56, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

Hi, @Mccapra: Did you have time to check it ? ---Imad_J (talk) 19:33, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

I’m sorry I completely forgot about it. I’ll look in the morning. Mccapra (talk) 19:47, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

@عماد الدين المقدسي: Ok I’ve looked again and here’s what I think. Sources 10-16 simply verify his authorship. They’re fine but they don’t support notability. For a person to be notable we need things said about them by other people, independently. So ideally we want reviews of the books he wrote in major publications for example. It’s common to have to source details of a subject’s early life to interviews, but overall I’m still not seeing a lot of independent people (not associates and colleagues) talking about him. A good thing to find for example would be an official source or newspaper article showing that he is the president of a university. There’s no source for that at all at the moment and that would make the article much stronger. The best sources you have here are Al-Istiqlal and Al Jazeera. I’m not sure about Taganet. Anyway I think don’t spend any more time linking to Islamic religious websites because they won’t help prove notability. Anything else you can find in major news outlets will be helpful. I think it’s not quite there yet. Good luck. Mccapra (talk) 11:24, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mccapra: Thanks you, I've added many notable references from Al Jazeera and others, 3 references that he's the president of a university ^_^ . And I found that he was the Vice president of the International Union of Muslim Scholars. I hope this is enough.--Imad_J (talk) 17:49, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for working on this. I’ve moved it into mainspace now. All the best Mccapra (talk) 18:00, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

clarity

	clarity
	hello, the article has been created,after considering the proficiency of the person.The only reach a wikipedia can give is to keep the article posted for the referencer cited.every author would have about one or two media page referencer.and that is available. kindly do the needful and approve the same. Vasudharini (talk) 15:54, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your message. If you are saying that the article is the product of extensive research and that it already uses every available reference, then I’m afraid that’s not very good news. We require numerous independent sources to support an article, not pieces the subject has authored or references to him in religious publications associated with him. If the sourcing can’t be improved I’m afraid it is likely that the article will be deleted. All the best Mccapra (talk) 16:07, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

A Page That You Draftified

You moved V Aravind Subramanyam to Draft:V Aravind Subramanyam. I agree that it did not belong in article space, and that it was all right in draft space. I have an update and a comment. It seems that the submitter then moved the page from Draft:V Aravind Subramanyam to Sastha Aravind, another name used by the subject. I don't think that a page should be draftified twice, which is move-warring, so I thought it needed to be sent to AFD. So as the WP:BEFORE, I Googled on both titles. Well, I found the article, and both in Wikipedia and on another web site. So I didn't AFD it, because that looks like copyvio. It is one of those technical cases where the submitter is ripping off their own copyright, but that is still copyvio, and is still G12.

The comment is that there seem to be two draftifying scripts in use by reviewers. The one that you have leaves the draft page tagged for AFC review. The one that I have does not tag the draft page for AFC review. I think it is better not to have the draft page tagged for review, because we know that the NPP reviewer decided it was not ready for article space.

Thanks for draftifying it. We will see if it gets speedied now. Robert McClenon (talk) 17:54, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks see my conversation with the creator in the section above. I’ll take it to AfD if no further sources are forthcoming. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 18:04, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of V Aravind Subramanyam for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article V Aravind Subramanyam is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/V Aravind Subramanyam until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Huh? Twinkle does odd research on the genealogy of pages. I will see if it notified the real author. Robert McClenon (talk) 18:17, 3 October 2020 (UTC)

Lol! Definitely not mine!

Re:Some baklava for you!

Hi friend, thanks a lot for that speedy review & the baklava! Have a nice Sunday.. :-) XoXo (talk) 04:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

History of rugby union matches between Scotland and United States moved to draftspace

I am confused why the History of rugby union matches between Scotland and United States was moved to draftspace because NONE of the other pages have sources, it is formatted the same exact way as the others. I linked the matches I could to the specific event as they occurred.

Hi you may well be right but I’m patrolling new pages, not all pages on related topics. Some older pages have got away with not being sourced, but new pages can’t. We are steadily upping the sourcing requirements all the time. If you can add sources I’ll bring it back into mainspace. All the best Mccapra (talk) 19:43, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

See talkpage

I recently came across a couple of article creations by User talk:PutraOsakaTokyo. They have created several articles related to Malaysian politicians; however none of the added sources has mentioned subjects' name. As far as i can understand, either the user is unaware of citing pages or they provide misleading sources. Please see User talk:PutraOsakaTokyo#Recent page creation. Thank you. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 08:29, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. The last one of these I patrolled I did wonder whether I’d paid enough attention to the sources which looked superficially impressive. I’ve gone back through my patrol log and unpatrolled the ones I can find. I think the patrol logging system is a bit flaky and it doesn’t capture all the reviews. I’m sure there are 4 or 5 more if I can go back and find them. Please unreview any you come across. All the best Mccapra (talk) 08:45, 4 October 2020 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Aloke Singh Promoter

Please do not create hoaxes on Wikipedia, as you did at Aloke Singh Promoter. Doing so is considered to be vandalism and is prohibited. If you are interested in how accurate Wikipedia is, a more constructive test method would be to try to find inaccurate statements that are already in Wikipedia—and then to correct them if possible. If you would like to make test edits, please use the sandbox. Under section G3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, the page has been nominated for deletion. Repeated vandalism may result in the loss of editing privileges.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 17:37, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

@Mcmatter: hi I didn’t create it. I draftified it. Mccapra (talk) 17:39, 6 October 2020 (UTC)

Your concerns with 'Belgian 9th Infantry Division

Hello, @Mccapra:. I think i can address some of your concerns. The article is not based on primary sources, but in fact gives a shortened account of the histories compiled by the website in the references. That site could be seen as a disinterested, objective secondary source (purpose is to give an day-to-day account of each unit's history, without the need to qualify or take sides - after all, the war is over for more than 70 years now).

In this sense, it also does not qualify as original research. As it is a summary of existing historiography, based on records which can be verified. Epicurus BE (talk) 13:48, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your note. I see what you mean. I’ll take those tags off the article but I’m going to add a new one because the article still relies on a single source. If you can find any other sources that will be great. By the way, on talk pages it’s usual to post new messages at the bottom, but don’t worry about that. All the best Mccapra (talk) 16:04, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Mccapra:, thanks i'll take note of that in the future. The sources can indeed be diversified. As i continue with this project, i'll take more time to delve in the academic sources on which that single source is based. Note also that (when applicable) i'll extend this for World War One and Post-WWII. Then there will be more sources. Best! Epicurus BE (talk) 18:14, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Great good luck with it! Mccapra (talk) 18:38, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

Nomination of Abdullahi Dauda Belel for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Abdullahi Dauda Belel is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abdullahi Dauda Belel until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 02:47, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

@Rosguill: I draftified it a minute before you completed the AfD.Mccapra (talk) 02:51, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

But if you want to move it back to mainspace for the AfD that’s fine. Mccapra (talk) 02:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

I already deleted the AfD so I'll just let the draftify stand for now. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 03:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

Howard Handler Article

HI @Mccapra! You provided some feedback on a page I created for Howard Handler (link below), and I submitted for review and have been waiting for a little while. Would you be willing to take a look and see if it is ready to be made an article? Thanks so much!

Bippity4414 (talk) 20:10, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi yes I’ve looked at it just now. I see you’ve added more refs to verify details of the bio. Reading it again I see the subject has had a successful career but I’m not sure that he meets our notability requirements. Have you looked at WP:ANYBIO? How do you think Mr Handler meets this standard? Mccapra (talk) 20:22, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: Movies and pastries

Hi, and thanks for the baklava! I saw the tag on the Alma llanera page and linked the film to related articles. Again, thanks for the notice and the baklava! I think it's a first for getting cake around here! --EdgarCabreraFariña (talk) 10:55, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

I need help

I inadvertently created page Dick Wiend while I actually intended to create page Dick Wieand as a redirect page to Friday the 13th: A New Beginning. Please, tell me how to delete unnecessary pages because I never deleted any page before.Temuera (talk) 18:01, 13 October 2020 (UTC)Temuera

Hi I’ll take a look now. Mccapra (talk) 18:05, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi I’ve put it up for speedy deletion. Don’t worry about it. There are Wikipedians who check for double redirects and clean up so somebody will come along and sort it out. All the best. Mccapra (talk) 18:11, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

9jadailyfeed

May I ask why you bothered to move this to draft space? It's, well, garbage for lack of a better word. There's no value in draftifying stuff that is patently unencyclopedic, unless I am missing something? Praxidicae (talk) 22:00, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

Saves me the bother of hunting for sources to take it to AfD frankly. Mccapra (talk) 22:11, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

I’d rather the article creator ran around searching for sources than you/me/anyone else. Mccapra (talk) 22:12, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

That doesn't seem like the best reason to draftify it. Why not let the CSD get it deleted? Praxidicae (talk) 22:24, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

You’re not wrong. Mccapra (talk) 22:40, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

@Praxidicae: I just looked at this again for some reason and realised what happened. You sent it to CSD and I sent it to draft almost simultaneously. It didn’t have the CSD notice on it when I hit ‘move to draft’ - that must have appeared a second or so after I began draftifying it. If there had been a CSD template on it I would have left it alone. Mccapra (talk) 14:15, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Kavish Mishra - Verified Facebook Page

Hello, I just found verified facebook page of Kavish Mishra, Url - https://www.facebook.com/kavishmishramusic/

Its a request you to please please help and Contribute article "Kavish Mishra"

I respect your edits

Regards Trueknockdigital (talk) 10:10, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi I’m afraid Facebook can’t be used as a source Wikipedia. Mccapra (talk) 11:12, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Re: Chongqing–Wanzhou high-speed railway

Hello, I saw you've changed a page I created to draft. I am not sure what level of referencing you're looking for, when Wikipedia covers many Chinese railways with barely any references. I think everything in the article is sourced already. Also worth adding there is a Chinese article at zh:渝万高速铁路 though I forgot to add the interwiki link when creating it. Could you clarify for me please? Thanks NemesisAT (talk) 14:57, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your message. I sent the article to draft because it only had two sources, both of which looked to me like announcements based on press releases rather than independent journalism. One of the sources, 3G.163 did not look reliable to me. For an established railway two sources might be sufficient, but for a construction project we need something more solid and reliable than this to be sure that Wikipedia is not being used for the purposes of commercial promotion. With sufficient reliable sources it can come back into mainspace. All the best Mccapra (talk) 19:29, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I did have a look already but haven't been able to find any more good sources. Could an alternative be merging the page with Chongqing–Wanzhou intercity railway until more information comes available? They both have the same terminii. Best wishes NemesisAT (talk) 21:20, 20 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi yes that would be a very good idea. All the best Mccapra (talk) 14:11, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Ismail Sirri Pasha

Hello. You recently added a

to the Ismail Sirri Pasha page I created. I'm working to create entries for cabinet ministers in Egypt, and for most of them there's not much material available in English. Obviously the page is thin--that's why it's in Category:Egyptian_politician_stubs. I always cite primary sources, such as the major bibliographic dictionary of Al-Zirikli. In this case I linked to four different sources. Please avoid reflexive use of refimprove. Unless you have read the primary sources I've linked to, don't claim that the page needs verification. Thanks for your work. Will Hanley (talk) 23:39, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi thanks for your note. Great project to create articles for cabinet ministers. To establish notability we look for secondary rather than primary sources. Works by the article subject don’t help, so at the moment the article has one ref and one external link. So it does indeed need further sources. Mccapra (talk) 07:03, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Moving pages

Hi there. First, thanks for all you do on WP, especially over at NPP. Why don't you request WP:PAGEMOVER status? That way when you move a page, especially to draft, you can select to not leave a redirect behind. That way you wouldn't have to do all those deletion requests. Just a thought.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 22:59, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I wouldn’t want a tool I can’t competently use and tbh I’m struggling to understand the Page Mover project page. If I’m sure I’m got my head around it, I’ll apply. Thanks for the suggestion. Mccapra (talk) 23:10, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

No worries. From the outside looking in, it looked like you have a grasp, so I thought I'd suggest it.Onel5969 ^{TT me} 00:17, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Draft:Renk

Hi, I saw you draftified Draft:Renk yesterday. I have since expanded the article and added sources which I believe sufficiently establish notability and make the article mainspace-ready. I'd appreciate if you could take a look and see whether you agree. Thanks. BegbertBiggs (talk) 13:26, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi I agree the draft can be moved back into mainspace. Unfortunately the article title ‘Renk’ is being used for a redirect. I’ve asked to have that deleted and once it’s free I can move your article back. Mccapra (talk) 13:41, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Page mover granted

Hello, Mccapra. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, move subpages when moving the parent page(s), and move category pages.

Please take a moment to review Wikipedia:Page mover for more information on this user right, especially the criteria for moving pages without leaving redirect. Please remember to follow post-move cleanup procedures and make link corrections where necessary, including broken double-redirects when suppressredirect is used. This can be done using Special:WhatLinksHere. It is also very important that no one else be allowed to access your account, so you should consider taking a few moments to secure your password. As with all user rights, be aware that if abused, or used in controversial ways without consensus, your page mover status can be revoked.

Useful links:

• Wikipedia:Requested moves
• Category:Articles to be moved, for article renaming requests awaiting action.

If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! – bradv🍁 15:25, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Mccapra (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Could you possibly look at Tumurun Private Museum?

Hi Mccapra,
@Mccapra, John B123, Arynaa06, and Seraphimblade: Could you possibly revisit this article? It has been tagged for speedy deletion under the WP:G11 speedy deletion criterion, and I would appreciate your opinions about this.
As an English language Wikipedia administrator who quite often deals with speedy deletion requests and articles translated from other Wikipedias, my first thought was to decline the speedy deletion, as the article isn't "exclusively promotional and would need to be fundamentally rewritten to serve as encyclopedia article", but I am obviously biased when it comes to quirky art galleries: see The Museum of Everything (museum) and Museum of Old and New Art.
On second thoughts, I have decided to move it into "Draftspace"<to avoid outright speedy deletion of what appears to have - according the Jakarta Post - "about a hundred works of modern a --Shirt58 (talk) 12:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)nd contemporary art"
Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:05, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

@Shirt58: I agree it should not be speedy deleted. It’s not well-written and could do with some more tidying up but I think it’s just amateurish writing rather than intended promotion. Mccapra (talk) 10:14, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

Oh crumbs. So now we now have Tumurun Private Museum in articlespace and Draft:Tumurun Private Museum in draftspace.--Shirt58 (talk) 12:25, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

The draft version is more primitive so I suggest we get the existing draft deleted, then move the current article into draft space for more work. Mccapra (talk) 12:36, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I've got no objection to the article being improved rather than deleted. Regards. --John B123 (talk) 15:57, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Brilliant Idea Barnstar
	Thank you for your hard work on Loong Kim Sang! It is amazing. Best regards VocalIndia (talk) 15:44, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you that’s very kind! Mccapra (talk) 16:20, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

For your work on Loong Kim Sang

		The Music Barnstar
		Thank you. About 90% of the time, when an editor airily claims at AfD that s/he's surely going to make the necessary fixes to an article, it's a bunch of hot air. You really did mean it, and to impressive effect. Well done. Ravenswing 20:59, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Very kind of you, thank you! Mccapra (talk) 21:01, 3 November 2020 (UTC)

Thank you for you're notice Mccapra

I have created a historic teams that already dissolved, and these kinds of articles are just a simple or a stub articles you know and thus references about them are rare to find so I add simple references that represent these teams. Thank you

Article's AfD deadline

I've found all secondary sources now! It's final day for decision I think on J. Jaye Gold Can you take one more look when you have the time? Much appreciated.Onganymede (talk) 18:43, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi really outstanding work and the article is very much improved. I’ve left a comment and suggested the article should be relisted for another week to allow time for more editors to reach a view. Mccapra (talk) 18:54, 7 November 2020 (UTC)

The Months of African Cinema Contest Continues in November!

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Joth Hunt

Hi Mccapra, I hope you are well. I wrote to you because I received a notice about the template you placed in the article Joth Hunt. I would like to know why it does not meet the for notability criteria, what is missing, what must be added, or what must be corrected, please I would like to know in order to edit the article. Thanks a lot. Greetings. GJFBR (talk) 16:59, 10 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks I’ve responded on the article talk page. All the best Mccapra (talk) 09:26, 11 November 2020 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Robert McClenon. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Indian Society of Remote Sensing, and have marked it as unpatrolled. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

(Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Robert McClenon (talk) 18:12, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Hello Mccapra, I wanted to talk to you about an article that you recently moved to draftspace after confirmation and review. They spoiled my article then you moved it to draft, I corrected it now. I need your help. Best Regards https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Hedi_Zaiem Jhondidi123 (talk) 03:27, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

Just moved it back. Thanks for cleaning it up. Mccapra (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2020 (UTC)

@Mccapra: : I cleaned up. Could you check now. Thank You --Jhondidi123 (talk) 03:59, 17 November 2020 (UTC)