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Deletion Review - Matt Norman

Hi there Could you please review your deletion of an article I put up that you deleted.

Article Matt Norman

Below is the opinion of another administrator? Thanks in advance. Filmnews2007 05:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re. Please tell me why you have deleted my entry - third time?

Hello. I believe that the article in question is Matt Norman. I did not delete this, but after checking the deletion log I can inform that it has been deleted three times by three different administrators. The reason stated for deletion was the speedy deletion criterion A7. This criterion states that an article may be speedy deleted if it provides no assertion of notability of the subject. After viewing the last version of the article I believe that it did assert notability. I recommend you to take this article to the deletion review and try to have the deletion overturned. I hope this helps. Regards,--Húsönd 12:24, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Deletion Review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Matt Norman. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Filmnews2007 06:07, 20 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject India Newsletter: Volume II, Issue 1 - January 2007

Project News

Usage of Vernacular scripts: Following extensive description at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy) archived here regarding inclusion criteria for vernacular scripts in Indian biographies, Wikipedia:Vernacular scripts was set up to formulate usage guidelines. However, discussion appears to have dissipated without a conclusive result.

Project tagging:After a brief edit war over the addition of {{WP India}} to ancient archaeological sites now located in Pakistan, a "pre" parameter was introduced to remove the ROI flag from the template for pre-1947 articles, following discussion. After another large discussion on ANI alleging that the automated tagging by Ganeshbot and LostBot was "nationalistic", Ganeshbot was briefly blocked. Currently, the bots are again in action.

What is India?:Recently, there have been ongoing discussions here which discuss the stated issue of "India" the historical region is different from the Republic of India. It consisted also of modern Pakistan and Bangladesh, but a search for "India" automatically redirects to the Republic of India. Should there not be a clarification? . This comes in light of clashes on articles such as Panini, Subrahmanyan Chandrasekhar, Muhammad Iqbal and Muhammad Ali Jinnah, regarding the status of the individuals.

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Arbitration: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar regarding the activities of various editors on pages related to Indian religion topics closed recently, with Hkelkar, BhaiSaab and TerryJ-Ho all banned for one year. Currently, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Sathya Sai Baba 2 regarding a dispute over the article of the religious teacher is in the voting phase.

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Newyorkbrad's RfA

Thank you for your support on my RfA, which closed favorably this morning. I appreciate the confidence the community has placed in me and am looking forward to my new responsibilities. Please let me know if ever you have any comments or suggestions, especially as I am learning how to use the tools. Best regards, Newyorkbrad 19:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gandhian economics

Do you know something about Gandhian economics] ? deeptrivia (talk) 03:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've created this article after some research and nominated it at T:DYK. Please have a look in case there are any errors. Rama's arrow (3:16) 17:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Add the article J. C. Kumarappa to that. -- Szvest - ^{Wiki me up ®} 18:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your support

As you set out for Ithaka, hope the voyage is long
Knowledge is your destiny, but don't ever hurry the journey
May there be many summer mornings when
With what pleasure and joy, you come into harbors seen for the first time

Don't expect Ithaka to make you rich. Ithaka gave you the marvelous journey
And, if I, one of your fellow-travellers, can offer something
To make this journey of yours even more fascinating and enjoyable
This is my assistance with anything I can help.

Hey

Hey Nirav, I looked at ANI and saw your concerns. For some reason the site's not working for me. Just wondering if you could do a quick check to see whether there is any mention of me on their threads, thanks. Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 05:04, 25 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Taj Mahal RFC

I've filed an RFC relating to the Taj Mahal at Talk:Taj Mahal#Request for Comment: Inclusion of minority points of view. Your comments would be most welcome. Joopercoopers 18:06, 22 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Energy: world resources and consumption

Could you please look at Energy: world resources and consumption and comment if it is ready to be a featured article? Thank you for your help.
Frank van Mierlo 12:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for taking the time to review the article. Frank van Mierlo 20:09, 26 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fellow wrestling fan

Yo yo yo, pop a 40 and check your rollies! It's ImmortalKaine! I really don't watch WWE that much. TNA all the way! I am the self proclaimed Mr. TNA and the resident TNA Authorite in the WWE Fan Club on www.serebiiforums.com (same name, currently banned til 1st of feb for a stupid reason)

Eddie Guerrero died 1 day after my birthday. My b-day is Nov. 12th (1987) so it was a shock when I went on the WWE site the day after my b-day to see eddie had died.--The guy who stole your watch,ImmortalKaine 06:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sheikh Mujibur Rahman: External Links

Hi, Can you please update the url of http://banglapedia.search.com.bd/HT/*.HTM to http://banglapedia.search.com.bd/HT/*.htm . Thanks. zbd 10:35, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Help Wikipedia: WikiProject Protected areas of India

I would be glad if u help us in Wikipedia: WikiProject Protected areas of India. None of us are much experienced, we need some experienced persons like u. Kindly review the Project and do some inclusion or correction if u feel, see its talk page for more and specially in craeting the templates. Amartyabag (Talk) 11:32, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ads

This anon is adding a link to a travel site to lots of India articles: [1]. Arrow740 08:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Nadirali

Does these posts [2] canvassing for edit-warriors and this post to my talkpage [3] constitute harrassment? Rumpelstiltskin223 21:22, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I will do exactly as you say :) Rumpelstiltskin223 21:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ip attacker

Hi. regarding your block of this ip [4], he appears to have resurrected from another ip from the same domain and is attacking my user page [5].

This has been going on for a while:

[6][7][8] [9][10]

I was confused as to who he culd be. Then he made an interesting post to Sir Nick's talk page:

[11]

leading to the conclusion that these ips are all the sock of banned user Mustafa Bhai. Rumpelstiltskin223 22:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have some more things on User_talk:Aksi_great#hi and User:Bakasuprman/87. Baka man 03:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

accusations

What are you accusing me of? A troll(or more correctly a sock/meatpuppet) starts destoying the work of 3 descent editors and you accuse me.If you dont like my edits then we should get a neutral admin to deal with this.I was enraged by the comments you made on the Pakistan discussion page.If you don't like my style of editing then,let's ask a neutral party to intervine.

Blocking every single user you disagree with will only bring more attention to this issue in my opinion.Nadirali نادرالی

It is incivil of you to accuse me so randomly and without basing your accusations on any evidence.Please see wikipedia no personal attacks policy.Comment on my edits not on my ethnicity or personality.Nadirali نادرالی

Your block of User:MinaretDk

Hello. I noticed you blocked MinaretDk for 48 hours and did not leave a detailed rationale for your block, or even a notice of it, on that user's talk page. Please do so now. It is unreasonable to expect administrators considering his or her unblock requests to wade through all of their recent contributions to find the specific incidents/behaviour for which you executed the block. If you cannot provide such a rationale, then I would be inclined to unblock them. - Mark 04:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Thank you. - Mark 04:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Conundrum

Hi there,

I am almost at the end of my tether with bickering on the Talk:India page. A number of editors, some well-intentioned (like user:Indianstar and user:AJ-India) and others of uncertain intentions (like user:Sarvagnya) would like to add (or, have already added and which I then reverted) various portions of text to many sections of the India page, an FA. These proposed edits, all initially made by user:Indianstar are not minor (i.e. they are of the size of a small paragraph), and they have not been discussed before. I have tried to start discussion going on the Talk:India page, for example: see Example1, or Example2 (the title of this section has been changed retroactively by user:Sarvagnya from "History section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts"). The problem as I see it is that the edits are either controversial, or cover old ground, or too listy. I get the feeling that these editors are not really interested in discussing the issues because they keep accusing me of "making a mountain out of molehill" or semantic obfuscation. Their view is that their edits are common-sense and 1 or 2 KB or text is no problem, and that no time should be wasted on discussion, especially elaborate discussion like mine. Here is an example of some responses: Example3 and Example4. In the background, user:Sarvagnya seems to be egging on the other editors to go ahead and add the reverted material again before the discussion is complete. I am trying to hold on until Nichalp returns from his vacation on February 4, but in light of user:Sarvagnya's unmitigated hostility, I am concerned. She/He has used uncivil language consistently. Here are some examples of language directed at me:

"Will someone do me a favour by drilling it into his skull ..."
"hiding behind an admin to justify juvenile editing practices ..."
"Just improve it. Dammit."

In spite of my civil reminder to desist (see here), she/he has continued with his uncivil language and earlier today she/he changed the title of the discussion section retroactively from "History Section" to "Fowler's High-handed Reverts". (The discussion section incidentally had been started by me.) I am trying to keep my cool, but it is frustrating to hear such language consistently, when most of me, judging from the level sophistication of her/his writing, is itching to say something. Any advice will be welcome. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 20:20, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! Another mischevous act of misrepresentation of my stand by Fowler. Anyway first things first. Talking of decorum or the lack of it on my part that Fowler seems to be harping on, may I remind him that he has called me a vandal for no reason other than his own ignorance of the rules.

His condescending edit summaries, couple of which I have pointed out on the India talk page, smack of unbridled contempt for the efforts of other editors; not to mention his ignorance of several WP policies.

And indulging in revert after revert after revert without any explanation whatsoever is like dealing a slap on the other editors face with scant respect for his/her efforts. Forget simple reverts, for someone who acts so very 'holier-than-thou', did he even bother to let people know before he rolled the page back two months?!

Its one thing to play to a gallery of admins and another to not lose sight of objectivity. He royally betrays his misplaced priorities at every step. He seems not to or not willing to understand that issues like style, formatting, grammar, article size etc., are NOT excuses to blank content or roll pages back two months!!

For example, there was this content about G4 and India's bid for a permanent seat that Indianstar had added. A bid for the permanent seat is an extremely significant and notable fact about India as is its space programme and its nuclear programme. So says commonsense. But not Fowler. He simply goes ahead and blanks it out offering no explanation other than another of his ill informed edit summaries(rv content that was added without discussion!!).

And when other editors decide that they will brook no more nonsense and demand an explanation of him, he comes back and sheepishly says that Indianstar's version was too wordy and that he'd have no objection if the same was mentioned more concisely as they've done on Japan!! So in effect, he has blanked out(vandalised??) content which even he agrees with, simply because the fact wasnt worded well??! What does he think he's doing! Has he even heard of cpedit?

And it is not like I am taking exception to his reverts because I have some sinister agenda. I've observed his editing behaviour since the last two months. And I see a disturbing and disruptive pattern and that is precisely why I've said what I've said. Its not like I am against every revert he does. Some, like the one he did today(the Afghan historian one) are certainly justified. But such ones are very few and far between considering that he has dozens of reverts to his name (counting just just this one article) in the short time that he's been on WP.

Sample the facts that he's blanked out:

India's bid for a permanent seat
India's nuclear capability
India's successful space programme. and many many many more.

Explanations offered : NONE. None until fellow editors took him to task. Sarvagnya 21:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw your message. Fowler's high handed reverts, blanking of content and unilateral rollbacks have been as uncivil and unprofessional as it gets. And can you please point out where I've edit warred with him. If anything, I've been patient and not undone even one of his reverts even though I take serious exception to it. Thanks. Sarvagnya 21:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There has been an RfC of sorts on Talk:India for the last couple of days and both Indianstar and AJ India have disapproved of Fowler's editing habits. Both have indicated that Fowler merely keeps splitting hairs and making mountains out of molehills. Chanakyathegreat has also in the recent past disapproved of Fowler's blanking/reverts. I am sure there are others too. Many I guess are too tired to even comment there. An article can be optimised for prose, size etc., only after content has been added not before. Blanking out legitimate content simply because it is too wordy or has bad grammar is disruption if not vandalism. Sarvagnya 21:27, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I pray that you not lose sight of the real issue while focusing on my 'incivility'. Apart from the couple of "dammit"s, I've been very sane and civil throughout. And his edit summaries that sound like "hey you!.. i trashing your content coz you didnt discuss this ahead of time.." are extremely uncivil. Far worse than civility issues, his editing habits are extremely disruptive. Even Indianstar made the observation that thanks to Fowler, hardly any productive editing has taken place on the article in the past couple of months. Sarvagnya 21:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I surely cant be faulted for being incivil to a vandal(if that is what WP calls someone who blanks legitimate content like Fowler) or a disruptive user. If anything, I've been kind to fault by not slapping him with {test} tags for vandalism and such. Sarvagnya 21:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And between all this, I did even invite comment at the village pump yesterday about one of the things thats dogging the India page, thanks to a great extent to Fowler. Just FYI Sarvagnya 21:46, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What Nobleagle has to say on dab's page. Sarvagnya 21:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Thanks for your reply, your action, and your suggestion; likewise, I would like to apologize for my own rudeness during our earlier interchange. The RfC sounds like a good idea. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 23:03, 30 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PS Hi, I've started a RfC Talk:India#Request_for_Comment:_Adding_new_material_to_the_India_page_history_section. Any comments and feedback will be welcome! Fowler&fowler «Talk» 03:37, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Habz

Remember Habz (talk · contribs)? Back under new IP and the same trolling 84.9.47.91 (talk · contribs). --Ragib 01:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Gandhian economics, was selected for DYK!

On January 31, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Gandhian economics, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid 64 22:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

On February 2, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article J. C. Kumarappa, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 04:16, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RfB

Thank you for participating in my recent RfB. I'm concerned, however, that you think I put less thought into my nomination than Taxman did in his brief comments. I'm interested to know how you arrived at this conclusion, as I spent a couple weeks working on how to best describe my opinions in my answers to the basic questions. I also took time to carefully consider how to respond to each question that was asked. As such, I'm not sure how Taxman could have possibly put more thought into his brief comments than i put into my nomination. Yes, Ryulong's unexpected controversial promotion caused a lot of concern, but my thoughts on applying were only cemented by that as I thought I'd bring some fresh views to the job. Several people even commented similarly in the RfB.

I appreciate any insight you can give me into your reasoning. Thank you for your time. ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 22:26, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

FA considerations for Language Movement

Hi Nirav, For quite some time, a quite young volunteer of our Bengali-wikipedia project has devoted his time to develop the article Language Movement. This year marks the 55th anniversary of the event (21 Feb, 1952). Since this is a huge month long observance in BD, and an event part of the national culture, I think we will soon try for an FA drive for the article.

Right now, Tarif is working on getting book references. He'll probably add a lot of them. I'm just giving you a hint that we may soon need experienced copyeditors/FA developers like you to take a look into it. Of course, you don't need to start on that right away ... I'll give you another message when I think we have enough referenced material and pictures.

Thanks in advance. --Ragib 22:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tarif is actually a College student of HSC, so you'd have to excuse his English. He does have a lot of enthusiasm, having taken it as his goal to make it into an FA... you'd be surprised to know that he is editing this using his cell phone's slow and very very pricey Internet connection. I gave a speech in Dhaka on the 15th of this month, and met Tarif there ... and saw his great enthusiasm.

But you are right, the language can be polished a lot, and also, npovized. That's exactly why we need experienced people to join this. Feel free to copyedit the article now. Thanks. --Ragib 23:41, 1 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Bangla" is what Bengali people call their language. The English language term for this language is Bengali. Voice of America uses the term "Bangla", but the majority of English language publications use "Bengali". In the past, I had supported "Bangla" word usage in WP, but now, I think the more common English language term "Bengali" can be used, at least for the time being. It's a compromise we have to make until the right word becomes part of English :). --Ragib 01:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Looks like I need to be good in english. Ha! Ha! Ha! Thanks a lot for the barnstar.Tarif from Bangladesh 18:28, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, you can start it right now. If you want me to do any specific thing for the article please let me know. I was thinking about highlighting the political activities during the movement by creating a section in Language Movement article with giving link of a separate article named Role of political parties during Language Movement. Anymore ideas? Please let me know.Tarif from Bangladesh 19:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am trying to find books but most of the websites do not allow me to get in. What should I do? Would I provide the links at the talk page? Anyway Ragib bhai has collected some. please have a look at talk:Language Movement.Tarif from Bangladesh 10:11, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Why

Why did you block me? Their was no personal attack, nor was their any edit warring(i changed the article twice). You could have at least given me a warning/explanantion of what i was supposedely doing wrong.198.7.249.101 23:40, 2 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Their was no disambiguation when i changed it to British India, no disambiguation when i changed it to Karachi, Sindh, nor is their a disambiguation while i am writing this. It still links to ROI. Note i didnt change Indian Muslim as the disambiguation was provided. As for Sanjay Khan, and the Hindu community i didint insult them, i just stated a fact that he would not be accepted as a pathan. If you dont believe me thats your problem. I suggest asking a pathan. Basically you didnt like the fact that i changed Jinnah's birthplace, so you made up a reason to block me. Dont block me in the future without a just reason.

Protection

While the article is protected I don't ask you to revert Minaret2k but I ask you to take a look at the version and please just reword it so that it no longer sounds like Hinduism is an evil religion that sanctions, as a religion, the mistreatment of Dalits and the practice of Devdasi. It says that it is a religious practice, that Hindu religion promotes 'sexual slavery', and is a huge breach of WP:Undue weight. — Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 03:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, your already being accused of enough admin bias against non-Hindus. — Nobleeagle ^[TALK] [C] 03:59, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

RfC

Hi, I wouldn't say I am a real party in this edit war, but I'll take a look at the issues and address them on the talk page. Thanks. Fowler&fowler «Talk» 11:46, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Please help!

Dear Rama's Arrow, there is a new user (User:Fuzzone) adding original research in the martial race article saying Sikhs are racist and think others are inferior and saying Guru Gobind Singh says this. Please can you tell this user original research or opinion is not allowed in Wikipedia. Tell him you will block him if he carries on with this intention of rubbish and dirtying the name of the Sikh religion. And also keep an eye on martial race article making sure no one adds it in again. Thanks my friend--Sikh historian 16:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Aagris

An editor has nominated Aagris, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not"). Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aagris and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate. Thank you. Please note: This is an automatic notification by a bot. I have nothing to do with this article or the deletion nomination, and can't do anything about it. Jayden54Bot 09:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok review it and edit it

Ok then review and edit the martial race article Sikh section for POV and other no allowable things he has put it back.--Sikh historian 13:55, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

main page ...

Check out Wikipedia:Today's_featured_article/February_10,_2007. Congrats to you ... for yet another main page FA :) --Ragib 04:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, there is a lot of vandalism expected at the article, starting from this evening when it goes to main page. Keep a watch on the page ... --Ragib 19:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked the paper (emailed you about it). It *does* say that the term for presidency was 5 years. Any other citations to back the "president for life" thing? Otherwise, I guess we should change it. --Ragib 23:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re. the youtube link in external links section on Sir. Iqbal, i think if Youtube does not object to any copyright issues on the video clip, we can use it on wikipedia as a link. Khokhar976 10:42, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great

Great job their at the language movement. As you know, I am not doing my part sincerely, I would try to turn those red links into blue along with searching references. Please let me know (even if i don't accomplish), if there is something for me to do.Tarif from Bangladesh 19:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hello...

Hi Nirav,

Well i'm trying to take a wikibreak but cant resist bumping in here once in a week or so! Anyways I think both BhaiSaab/MinaretDK and HKelkar might be socking at Hindutva. I'm pretty sure that User:Neptunion [12], is a sock of MinretDk... Do file a ChckUser request with Bryant, I atm dont wanna get meself involved in his mess. Amey Aryan DaBrood^© 21:59, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Your note

Hi Rama, You left a warning on my page when clearly a group of editors are engaged in nothing more than reverting my edits, on strange grounds.Do I not have any freedom to contribute here.Neptunion 23:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

accusation of rudeness?

I'm but sorry but where have I been rude? I asked how his grandfather's seeds were. How is that incivil? I also asked how he was doing and also how his grandfather was going. He said he was bangladeshi.--D-Boy 09:11, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Having read the comment, it is actually a obscene derogatory one, a slang. That's not rudeness, that's downright objectionable obscenity. Whatever problems you might have had with the user, that doesn't justify making such comments, and such comments are blockable offences. --Ragib 09:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Rumpel talk page

No objections. I would have done it myself. Didn't realise it was protected. - Aksi_great (talk) 15:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Talk:Sindhi literature

I add Indian tag on Sindhi literature because there many Sindhi writer (from India )who inspired me from there writing so I though it would be not to add there current country name, Generally literature have not bounders ,I read Guru Rajnesh even he is Indian and hindu . Khalidkhoso 15:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome Rama

Thanks dear. Khalidkhoso 15:54, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am thankful to wiki Indian who allowed me to add Sindhi (Arabic-Persian) on Sindhi oriented peoples (L .k Advani and Pankaj Advani) living in India .strange I was opposed by Pakistanis? Khalidkhoso 16:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

My RFA

Thank You,
Rama's Arrow for your Support! Thank you for your support in my RfA, which closed at 111 / 1 / 2. I am humbled and rather shocked to see such kind comments and for it to reach WP:100. Please feel free to leave a note if I have made a mistake or if you need anything, I will start out slow and tackle the harder work once I get accustomed to the tools. Thank you once more, I simply cannot express in words my gratitude.

...fly on littlewing. ~ Arjun 19:51, 9 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Our Disputes

I understand we have had our disputes regarding various topics, and I would like to point out a few things I think you could improve on. Please consider Good Faith here, as I did take your suggestions very seriously. I will attempt to solve debates as Neutrally as possible. I wont give you the chance to question by behaviour, but please do note comments from the opposing side when looking at my comments.
I would also appreciate a warning (the same kind you hand out to other users when they use explicit language), even though I have never used explicit language, I understand you find some of my comments controversial. A warning will let me know what to change in my comments.
Since you seemed to have missed my talk page, I would like to bring to your attention, that you made a mistake when extending my ban. The ban you initially handed out to me started on the 23rd January. You specifically said "Your ban has been extended to a duration of 2 weeks", however I was banned till the 10th February. I dont know if you lost count, but I am just making you aware of your mistake.
You also made several accusations, of me being Anti Jewish, and also mentioned my "Pakhub agenda". Once again, I would like you to assume good faith. I have no agenda, All my arguments are backed with facts, and I certainly dont have anything against Jews. If you had taken a closer look at my comments, you would have known, My comment was in defence of Jewish people, when a troll made an attack on them. I am sure you misread the comment, and I forgive you for that, even though it was very hurtful, especially when you had banned me, and I couldnt defend myself against this accusation. And when I did, you seemed to have ignored my comment, and blocked me for "block evasion".
What I am trying to say is, I would appreciate if you assumed good faith more often, and let me know if I am doing something wrong. You should know I always take constructive criticism seriously, and act on it.
Thank you for your time
--Unre4Lﺍﹸﻧﺮﮮﺍﻝ ^UT 02:51, 10 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hkelkar indef

I completely agree with your block. I would have done it myself but I wanted some other admin to block indef. - Aksi_great (talk) 16:15, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the info :) I was wondering if it would ever make it to the main page. I will go through the articles to see if there are any changes to be made. - Aksi_great (talk) 04:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

wikistalking and harassment

Your message on my discussion page viz " Please do not leave messages such as the ones you did on the userpage and talkpage of user:Szhaider. It construes stalking and harassment, which will not be tolerated. You will be blocked without further warning. Rama's arrow 15:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)"[reply]

I wish to seek a clarrification ....can I post my message which you have removed from Szhaider s page in my own discussion page , and just preceeding your message , as a response to your warning message to me for wikistalking and harassment . I would like to put this message so that anyone visiting my discussion page may know the specific context of this warning .

You may on the other hand like to consider the motive behind user Szhaider keenness to remove this message , considering I have only recorded the diversity of his own posts .

The constructive reason for this message that I had posted on user:Szhaider page is that it certainly informs other users also about the mindset of this poster with regard to India related subjects .

Please confirm my above request , as I have no intention of transgressing wikipedia rules and I also wish to put your warning on my discussion page in proper perspective to those visiting my page . I am sure posting this message on my own discussion page should be considered OK as per wikipedia policy .

Cheers Intothefire 17:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gosh that was fast ..... OK point taken .

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Cheers Intothefire 18:02, 11 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Re:Arbcom

We are ready to deal with this.I must ask Fowler and Islescape as witnesses to this.I have evidence not just against you,but the others as well.I feel you made the right decision as this is the only way to resolve this. I am leaving now.I must go for lunch.--Nadirali نادرالی

I have posted my statement.Let's see what you have to throw at us.--Nadirali نادرالی

Re:

First of all thank you for protecting my user and talk pages. Secondly, I wanted a little break from content and other disputes for some time. You can notice from my recent edits. Now you are pushing me into another lengthy discussion at ArbCom. Please note that my strong reservations against you are atill intact, however, I just want to stay a little cool for some time. Nevertheless, I will mention my reservations if I am obliged to participate in any discussion regarding our mutual disputes. Szhaider 18:39, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts on the RFA

First let me state that I have believe that you are a good and neutral admin who has not let religion/country influence him. That being said, one of your current stances does seem a bit odd, no denying the disruption/disturbance caused by the group you have mentioned in the above RFA, but in behaviour they have done nothing different from what another group has been doing. That the nation and religion and theories that help add to the nation/religion, and an attempt to "correct" history and influence of "others" is what you have accused Pakhub of, well these have been stated intents of editors of Indian origin too, and you know the editors. One of them might have got into an arbcom and banned, but not because of his "attempt to clean up wikipedia" ( read push his on POV for that) that you are accusing this group of. The cabal and tag team exists this side of the border too and though you are not supporting them / helping them ( as another admin does), your ignoring their transgressions while accusing another group of the same ( ie POV pushing) is not balanced. Haphar 08:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Just some thing I dont know myself

Since I don't know all the formality for using Wikipedia to do intricate stuff and I am too busy/lazy to read the fine prints, just wanted to tell you that User:155.69.104.27 contributions are susceptible, and may be some blocked user evading block (or some unblocked user just forgot to login). If you can do something of this data, please go ahead.--æn↓þæµß¶-ŧ-¢ 12:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/India-Pakistan/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, David Mestel^(Talk) 21:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

rfa thanks

Thanks for the support on my RFA. It passed successfully with just under WP:100 supports and 1 oppose. I look forward to serving the community as an admin. ⇒ SWATJester ^{On Belay!} 18:00, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

West Bengal Portal

Portal:West Bengal has been vastly improved by riana_dzasta and S .D. ¿п?, with automated selection of articles. It is now a Featured portal candidate. Please have a look. Regards -- P.K.Niyogi 04:15, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject History of Bangladesh

WikiProject History of Bangladesh has started. It needs members and participants. Aditya Kabir 11:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

ArbCom case

That's very high-minded of you, but then you're a high-minded guy.
Good luck.
JFD 18:01, 17 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

my alleged attack on Muhajirs

How can you accuse me of attacking Muhajirs when I AM a Muhajir from my father's side.My father is a Muhajir of Azerbaijani ancestry from his mother's side.Therefor he is of Azerbaijani descent born in what is today india. I still stand by my claims that I dislike their mentality of being too conservitive.I once had a Greek tutor who would repeatidly attack his people because he felt they were too arrogant.Does that make him an "anti-Greek".

If you think my comments were attacking Muhajirs,then atleast you can call me a "self-hating Muhajir" rather than an "anti-Muhajir" which is quite ridiculous and somewhat quite laughable :-)--Nadirali نادرالی

Who said I cared about DaGizza's background? If you're reffering to the comment I made on the history of India talkpage,he asked me to post if I regarded him as Pakistani or not and even posted on my talkpage to make sure I'd see his question on the talkpage.

As for my comments regarding the Muhajirs,I commented on the typical Muhajir mentality and the recent terrorism commited by the MQM.And I still stand on my claim the aticle is biased which is why I put the NPOV check on it. It's called commenting on content,not contributers

The reason why we're at arbcom is not because we're disrupting you're agenda.I really don't think we'd be there at this moment if you had not seen Unre4L and I pointing out your abuse of wikipedia as an admin.

Also stop telling me about "giving around my background".I did that for a reason to rebuff your silly accusions about "attacking Muhajirs".--Nadirali نادرالی

Really? Then is it a coincidence that the case was opened roughly 16 minitues after my complaint of your conduct and that 3 users (Unre4L,Fowler and I) agree on that factor.

Tell me does criticising people for being too religious attacking anyone's religion? The only "evidence" you seem to have is words by us twisted to suit your alligations.

I've seen many of the comments you've made to Unre4L and Szhaider as well as Fowler and I find them nowhere close to civility.I really think you should apologise to them.You've apologised to Fowler,but not Unre4L or Szhaider.Now if you'll excuse me there's some articles I'd like to work on.--Nadirali نادرالی

India-Pakistan evidence

The arbitration committee has asked that evidence presentations be kept to around 1000 words and 100 diffs. Your presentation is over 3200 words, with over 150 numbered diffs, and a large number of un-numbered ones. While thoroughness is good, your statement is likely to be read more carefully if it is brief. Please edit your section to focus on the most relevant evidence. For the arbitration committee, David Mestel^(Talk) 08:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It's better, but it's still about 2500 words and 170 diffs. Try to cut it down to 1000 words and about 100 diffs. Thanks, David Mestel^(Talk) 20:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

Hi! Don't get to talk with you these days... How are you doing? Busy admin? A good news, Delhi became a featured article. Nathu La is also in FAC. Regards.--Dwaipayan (talk) 13:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Great to see you back in FAC!! --Dwaipayan (talk) 04:24, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

It's been a week since my recent request for adminship passed, and since I haven't managed to delete the Main Page - yet - I figure it's safe to send these out. Thanks a lot for participating in my RfA; I hope to do a good job. If you see me doing something wrong, need help, or just want to have a chat, please don't hesitate to drop by :) – riana_dzasta 07:35, 22 February 2007 (UTC) [reply]

Admin coaching

I saw that you updated your status. What happened with Doc Tropics? Looks like he's inactive. Thanks, Fang Aili ^talk 17:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good. I'll make a note in the status page that you shouldn't get a new student until the ArbCom case is over. Cheers and good luck, Fang Aili ^talk 17:23, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the offer! Right now I'm trying to determine the status of various people. I'm checking the status pages and trying to see if coaching is actually happening. (see my recent contribs for what this entails). If there is no active coaching, then I update the status page so the coach can get a new student. Also, I check the requests page. People who have been inactive for 2 months should be removed, as well as users who have become admins in the mean time. Feel free to help out however. :) --Fang Aili ^talk 17:33, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I am going to write a "how to maintain this project" page, to make maintenance easier for everyone. Stay tuned.. --Fang Aili ^talk 18:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Self hypnosis

This guy never ceases to amaze me. [13] Using "Ancient Pakistan" for areas now part of Pakistan and South Asia for areas now part of RoI, anything that floats his boats. Amey Aryan DaBrood^© 17:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

your blocks

Rama's Arrow, in all friendliness, it does seem to me you are getting a little trigger happy with blocking users over India-related topics. I do suggest you go easy on blocking anyone involved in the great India-Pakistani tag team war, since you are yourself not exactly neutral in this. You can always post users you think deserve a block to WP:AN/I and see if an uninvolved admin agrees enough to block them for you.

Regarding Haphar (talk · contribs), it would be questionable to slap a 48h block on him for "rude edit summaries" without any warning even if you were entirely uninvolved. This could be justified in the case of extremely offensive or obscene edit summary, but reviewing Haphar's recent edits, I fail to see any summary that could be construed as even mildly disturbing. In the case of mild incivilities, I strongly suggest that you warn users, giving them a chance to review their behaviour. As it is, Haphar is prepared to sit out his 48h without much grumbling, but I kindly suggest you either shorten the block to a couple of hours, or transform it into a warning, or at least post a couple of diffs so that people can see what you considered incivility worthy of a 48h block without warning. regards, dab (𒁳) 10:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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 This guy never ceases to amaze me. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alexander_the_Great&diff=prev&oldid=109958845] Using "Ancient Pakistan" for areas now part of Pakistan and South Asia for areas now part of RoI, anything that floats his boats. <b><font color="saffron">[[User:AMbroodEY| Amey Aryan DaBrood]]</font></b><sup><b><font color="red">[[User_talk:AMbroodEY|&#169;]]</font></b></sup> 17:41, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
+==your blocks==
+Rama's Arrow, in all friendliness, it does seem to me you are getting a little trigger happy with blocking users over India-related topics. I do suggest you go easy on blocking anyone involved in the great India-Pakistani tag team war, since you are yourself not exactly neutral in this. You can ''always'' post users you think deserve a block to [[WP:AN/I]] and see if an uninvolved admin agrees enough to block them for you.
+Regarding {{user|Haphar}}, it would be questionable to slap a 48h block on him for "rude edit summaries" without any warning even if you were entirely uninvolved. This could be justified in the case of extremely offensive or obscene edit summary, but reviewing Haphar's recent edits, I fail to see any summary that could be construed as even mildly disturbing. In the case of mild incivilities, I strongly suggest that you ''warn'' users, giving them a chance to review their behaviour. As it is, Haphar is prepared to sit out his 48h without much grumbling, but I kindly suggest you either shorten the block to a couple of hours, or transform it into a warning, or ''at least'' post a couple of diffs so that people can see what you considered incivility worthy of a 48h block without warning. regards, [[User:Dbachmann|dab]] <small>[[User_talk:Dbachmann|(𒁳)]]</small> 10:48, 23 February 2007 (UTC)