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Administrators' newsletter – February 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2019).
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Clive Swift
I have read the NFCC several times and the only distinction is between living people and deceased people. There is no edict to wait an arbitrary extra time after the person's death. The Clive Swift page was on this website for well over fourteen years and in that time there clearly had not been a free-licence image of him found by any of those editors who had contributed to it. I also did several searches myself before uploading that Doctor Who screenshot.
There are many articles about once-living subjects which sat image-less for a long time, and I do not know of any cases where photographs of the person were released under a free licence immediately after their death. In several cases (Baroness Trumpington, Lord Stewartby, Lord Richard, Peter Imbert, Charlie Gard) I have uploaded a fair use photograph within a month, or even a day, of the subject's death and it did not provoke any complaint. It was generally understood that if free images had not been found during the preceding years in which the subject was alive then they were not likely to suddenly emerge a week after the subject's death.
If ever a free photograph of Clive Swift does become available, it will of course replace the one that I used. Until then, File:Clive Swift 2007.jpg stands.
Robin S. Taylor (talk) 12:30, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Please see Talk:Dan Kneen#Images 'deleted' from article by an editor invoking a bot (twice). --Rocknrollmancer (talk) 17:21, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- You're wrong on two counts. Firstly, the site consensus is that non-free images are not uploaded immediately on death. There should be time taken to respectfully reach out to source a free image from family, agents, publishers, etc. Secondly, a non-free image of an actor in a role can only be used to illustrate that role, not the actor themselves. Stephen 23:09, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments. It would be expeditious if you could point to any discussion where this (new-to-me term) "site consensus" was established; likewise the second point about any role of an actor.
Some years ago I approached an admin for advice and was bitten - twice, on two different occasions - then on the second occasion further lambasted for my 'ignorance of MediaWiki software' (loose quote). Accordingly, any further guidance from your previous involvements would be beneficial.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 12:32, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for your comments. It would be expeditious if you could point to any discussion where this (new-to-me term) "site consensus" was established; likewise the second point about any role of an actor.
Michael Ripper
Hi,
I notice you have taken down the image I put up, File:Actor Michael Ripper.jpg, and left the comment "Not fair use as main image," but without any reason given as to why not. Can you please elucidate? Beryl reid fan (talk) 21:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
- We shouldn't use an image of an actor playing a role to illustrate the actor themselves, it should only be used to illustrate the role, and then only if it is iconic in some way. Stephen 23:42, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
O.K. thanks. I found it hard to find a decent one of him, if I remember. Beryl reid fan (talk) 09:27, 7 February 2019 (UTC) Just found a decent one (much better, so thank you) and put it in the article. Beryl reid fan (talk) 09:46, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
Drive-By Purging
Having rejected my pleas on Clive Swift, you are obviously pouring over my contributions list in a photograph deletion spree.
- The photograph of Baroness Trumpington had two fair use rationales: the first was to illustrate the likeness of a deceased person, the second to show a notable event which, given that it was only recorded on parliamentary cameras, could not be available from any free-licence source.
- You insist there is a consensus to wait six months (though, as admitted in the linked discussions, it is not actually in the letter of the rules), but Lord Norwich has been dead for eight months and yet you deleted him anyway. Your assertion that "a famous speaker would almost certainly have a free image available" strikes me as specious given there are plenty of famous individuals on this website for whom free images have not been found.
- Linda Smith died just shy of THIRTEEN YEARS ago. Also, prior to the upload of my image, the same article already had a different non-free photograph of her, which had been in place for several years without apparently coming to your attention.
- I don't really understand what you mean by "evidence" of attempts to source free images - I haven't seen this applied to the many dozens or even hundreds of non-free biographical images that were uploaded before my time on the same fair use rationales that I have employed. Certainly I am not inclined to believe that you have made any significant effort to check any of them during today's rampage - and if you had found free images to replace my non-free ones, surely you would have put them in place instead of just leaving the infoboxes empty?
Overall I am decidedly unimpressed by your behaviour. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 19:37, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
- The community has come to a consensus that non-free images of deceased persons should only be uploaded where it is unlikely that a free image could be found. When a non-free image is uploaded it should only be done months after the person has dies, and when a search for a free image has been exhausted. If Trumpington's image is being used to show a notable or iconic event then it should only be shown inline with the event. John Julius Norwich is a famous speaker and it is unlikely that a free image doesn't exist. Similarly for Linda Smith as a famous comedian. The onus is on you to show that you have exhausted all avenues before uploading a non-free image. The best was would be to document your extensive fruitless search in the talk page of the article in question. The onus is not on me as an administrator to search for an upload free images to cover your actions. Stephen 01:58, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
British English
Hi, this correction kind of undermined the consistency we've been aiming at at DYK to use British English for British subjects. The nominator himself used British English ("realised" instead of "realized") in his query. Yoninah (talk) 11:08, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
- No, I'm afraid that's completely incorrect and Stephen's correction was exactly right in British English. We simply do not refer to station names in the UK in the way you are asserting. The Rambling Man (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
Nick Cafardo
Hi - regarding your edit to remove a photo of Nick Cafardo; you noted "Not fair use, too soon after death" — I have not seen such policy, can you please provide a link to where that is documented. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:41, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:Non-free content, Images, point 10. Stephen 05:48, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- The one that reads as below? There's no mention of time there... ? Dmoore5556 (talk) 05:56, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- "Pictures of deceased persons, in articles about that person, provided that ever obtaining a free close substitute is not reasonably likely. Note that if the image is from a press or photo agency (e.g., AP, Corbis or Getty Images) and is not itself the subject of critical commentary it is assumed automatically to fail "respect for commercial opportunity"."
- The community consensus is that at least 6 months wait is reasonable to ensure that a free use image can not be obtained. Stephen 06:04, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- OK, thanks for the clarification; good to know. It would probably help for that to be added to the noted point 10. Dmoore5556 (talk) 06:09, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
- The community consensus is that at least 6 months wait is reasonable to ensure that a free use image can not be obtained. Stephen 06:04, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
RD: Vinny Vella: nope
Hi, an IP had added unsourced films to the article after nomination. I have removed it again, can you please check if it can be posted now. --DBigXrayᗙ 07:21, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
Handel, Chopin
Wish you'd left this one alone for a while. What have you got against a little good-natured back-and-forth? – (or against me?) – Sca (talk) 23:31, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- No offence intended at all, just clearing some old reports and checking that nothing needs attention. It's not a page conducive to back-and-forth banter, and I didn't notice that your comments were so recent. Best wishes. Stephen 23:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2019).
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- The RfC on administrator activity requirements failed to reach consensus for any proposal.
- Following discussions at the Bureaucrats' noticeboard and Wikipedia talk:Administrators, an earlier change to the restoration of adminship policy was reverted. If requested, bureaucrats will not restore administrator permissions removed due to inactivity if there have been five years without a logged administrator action; this "five year rule" does not apply to permissions removed voluntarily.
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- checkuser-en-wpwikipedia.org has been set up to receive private requests for CheckUser. For instance, requests for IP block exemption for anonymous proxy editing should now be sent to this address instead of the functionaries-en list.
- The Arbitration Committee announced two new OTRS queues. Both are meant solely for cases involving private information; other cases will continue to be handled at the appropriate venues (e.g., WP:COIN or WP:SPI).
- Following the 2019 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: Base, Einsbor, Jon Kolbert, Schniggendiller, and Wim b.
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re [1]: cheap, too cheap. For starters, there is also "big news vs. small news", you did not clarify. Anyway, no need to tell me "you know how this works" by your personal assuption/arrogance. Next time, speak for yourself. -DePiep (talk) 01:10, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thank you - the loony fan has also targeted Marisa Siketa
Thank you. That loony extreme Saddle Club fan has also targeted the Marisa Siketa (who was also Melanie in Saddle Club) article for a long time. Can you protect that as well please? Paul Benjamin Austin (talk) 08:23, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
Thanks
Thank you for fixing this awkwardly worded segment of the "In the News" section of the Main Page. It was bothering me for days! Woshiyiweizhongguoren (🇨🇳) 22:25, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
Revision deletion request
Hi Stephen, It seems that someone's personal details have been posted in this edit. So I was wondering if you could consider doing a Revision Delete please? Cheers, 1292simon (talk) 20:35, 30 March 2019 (UTC)
Is this an April fool?
User talk:Jimbo Wales is usually edit unprotected and move protected. On 14 March you configured it to be indefinitely edit protected and move unprotected. Are you serious? 92.19.169.247 (talk) 08:31, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Read the protection log again as you are mistaken. Stephen 09:17, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry, it was 11 March. Here's the log:
curprev 04:21, 11 March 2019 Stephen talk contribs m 16,329 bytes 0 Changed protection level for "User talk:Jimbo Wales": Persistent sock puppetry ([Edit=Require autoconfirmed or confirmed access] (indefinite) [Move=Require administrator access] (expires 04:21, 14 March 2019 (UTC))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.19.169.247 (talk)
- The protection expired after 3 days, on March 14. It wasn’t indefinite. Stephen 09:57, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Stephen, I thought the IP was being silly at first, but looking at it again I think there actually was a mistake here... From [2] you changed the Move protection from "indefinite" to "expires 14 March", and the Edit protection was set to semi-protected "indefinite". Presumably you intended to set semi-protection until 14 March and retain Move protection indefinitely. I have edited the protection settings just now so that the page is fully editable, but only movable by administrators. If that was not your intention after the expiry of the protection you set, please let me know! Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 10:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- I edit-conflicted. Thanks. Have a good day. 92.19.169.247 (talk) 10:10, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- (talk page stalker) Stephen, I thought the IP was being silly at first, but looking at it again I think there actually was a mistake here... From [2] you changed the Move protection from "indefinite" to "expires 14 March", and the Edit protection was set to semi-protected "indefinite". Presumably you intended to set semi-protection until 14 March and retain Move protection indefinitely. I have edited the protection settings just now so that the page is fully editable, but only movable by administrators. If that was not your intention after the expiry of the protection you set, please let me know! Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 10:03, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
- The protection expired after 3 days, on March 14. It wasn’t indefinite. Stephen 09:57, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Jimbo Wales
To avoid violating 3RR I won’t reinstate the joke again, but I’d appreciate it if you didn’t rollback WP:APRILFOOLS content as if it was vandalism. 98.118.32.140 (talk) 12:10, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – April 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2019).
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- In Special:Preferences under "Appearance" → "Advanced options", there is now an option to show a confirmation prompt when clicking on a rollback link.
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Remove old?
That was your edit summary for removing "Recent deaths". Let me understand: Yes, Ruth-Margret Pütz died "already" 1 April, but news came around only 5 April (my talk), and official news a day later. Is that "old"? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:47, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- No, my edit summary was ‘rm 2 old RDs > 7 days’. Per the instructions, Recent deaths more than 7 days old are removed. Stephen 10:09, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
- I understand that much, only think it's kind of unfair that it seems related to the date of death, in cases of a late information about that death, and that date of having been entered might be better to be used, perhaps per IAR when there a few anyway. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:10, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
Fair use image on Shepard elephant
There is a specific reason for using the fair-use image of a Shepard elephant poster in addition to the Wikimedia image of Shepard himself standing next to the poster. The article itself talks about (and shows a PD image of) a later derivative that has been widely circulated on the internet. The only difference between the two is derivative's addition of an extra leg, crafted from the "tail" of the original. Unfortunately, Shepard is standing in front of the most important part of the poster showing his original image. Therefore it is not gratuitous to include the fair-use image, which is an image of the same poster as the one Shepard is standing next to.
I took both photographs, both show the same poster. I uploaded the poster itself as fair-use because I did not want to dilute Shepard's copyright. I believe that showing the suitably-small fair-use image of the original Shepard elephant design in the article about the Shepard elephant is exactly the way fair-use images are meant to be used. It is unfortunate that Shepard is standing in front of the most important part of the poster in the other image. If he weren't, there would be no need to include the fair-use image, I agree. Please reconsider your decision to remove the fair-use image and undo it. Thank you. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:28, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- Update, bot just notified me the fair use image will be deleted because it is no longer in an article. So I wish you will reconsider saving this useful information for ourreaders.Thanks. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:17, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
- It won’t be deleted for a week. I don’t believe the non-free image is justified, as there’s a 90% uncovered portrait version, and a derivative version. The tail is not the most important part of the illusion, the legs are. Happy for you to discuss on a suitable talk page for non-free images to gauge further consensus. Stephen 03:30, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
- Where would be a suitable talk page for this discussion? The most important part of the image for the illusion is indeed the legs. But the most important part of the image for comparing the original to the derivative image is the part of the elephant that differs between the two images: the derivative's added leg at the back. Look at the two PD images above. You can not tell the difference between those two elephants because Shepard's torso entirely blocks your view of the relevant part of the image. That is why the fair-use image is essential to the article. Without it, you can't understand why the five-footed derivative is said to be different from Shepard's original. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:37, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
@HouseOfChange:, from the discussion at WP:Media copyright questions it seems that the photo of Shepard with the Elephant behind him is wrongly tagged, so here's what I suggest:
- Crop and upload an image to just Shepherd alone, and use to illustrate the article for the man and also include in sub-articles on his work.
- Delete the image of Shepard and the obscured Elephant.
- Use your standalone photo of the Elephant (the one showing the ambiguous tail) as a fair use representation of the artwork.
Does this make sense? Stephen 01:33, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Those sound like good suggestions, a much more productive use of time than arguing fine points of policy. Thanks for your help. HouseOfChange (talk) 01:43, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. Let me know when you need any files deleted from here, and they're already tagged for deletion at Commons. Are you planning on writing an article for Shepard's other illusion shown in the portrait panorama (the two figures in a tunnel)? Stephen 01:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- I don't plan to write about the other illusion, which is not particularly famous. There is an interesting thing called a Shepard diagram I want to write up, if I can find a free-use image of one. The idea behind it is very interesting. I also have part of an article written for ghost moose in my sandbox, but real life has been busy during the past few weeks. Thanks again. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:26, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
- Agreed. Let me know when you need any files deleted from here, and they're already tagged for deletion at Commons. Are you planning on writing an article for Shepard's other illusion shown in the portrait panorama (the two figures in a tunnel)? Stephen 01:49, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
Lists of Australians
Categories are heirachical. Lists of Australians is included in Category:Lists of Australian people, which is already in Category:Lists of people by nationality. But I suppose it should be in the List of Lists category. Rathfelder (talk) 06:23, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
ITN recognition
Hi. I think you may have forgotten to add ITN recognition after posting Wikipedia:In the news/Candidates#(Posted) RD: Richard Lugar. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 00:31, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- Done, thanks. Stephen 00:35, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Stephen: Thanks. I just saw that I didn't get any alerts and wanted to make sure you hadn't forgotten --DannyS712 (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @DannyS712:, no problem. Not every posting admin does it though, especially the drive-by posters, and there's no issue with you crediting yourself for the record. Stephen 01:03, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
- @Stephen: Thanks. I just saw that I didn't get any alerts and wanted to make sure you hadn't forgotten --DannyS712 (talk) 00:40, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
ArbCom 2019 special circular
Administrators must secure their accounts
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Administrator account security (Correction to Arbcom 2019 special circular)
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Since November 2018, six administrator accounts have been compromised and temporarily desysopped. In an effort to help improve account security, our intention was to remind administrators of existing policies on account security — that they are required to "have strong passwords and follow appropriate personal security practices." We have updated our procedures to ensure that we enforce these policies more strictly in the future. The policies themselves have not changed. In particular, two-factor authentication remains an optional means of adding extra security to your account. The choice not to enable 2FA will not be considered when deciding to restore sysop privileges to administrator accounts that were compromised.
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Administrators' newsletter – May 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (April 2019).
- A request for comment concluded that creating pages in the portal namespace should be restricted to autoconfirmed users.
- Following a request for comment, the subject-specific notability guideline for pornographic actors and models (WP:PORNBIO) was removed; in its place, editors should consult WP:ENT and WP:GNG.
- XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.
- In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases,
the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions
; administrators found failing to have adequately done sowill not be resysopped automatically
. All current administrators have been notified of this change. - Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.
- In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases,
- A request for comment is currently open to amend the community sanctions procedure to exclude non XfD or CSD deletions.
- A proposal to remove pre-2009 indefinite IP blocks is currently open for discussion.
Quick Notice
Just wanted to let you know that your "My edit count" hyperlink on your user profile links to a 404-Not Found page. (I would send you a private message instead, but I have no idea how to do that--sorry.)
TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername (talk) 03:11, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks. I'll find another link someplace for edit counts. I create that one years ago probably on some long-abandoned counter. FYI. there are no private messages other than sending an email from the 'Email this user' link on the left-hand side. Stephen 03:23, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
Only if you want
Hi! Nice to meet you!, could you review my nomination of former Nauruan President for RD?, I invite you!, regardless of your position!. Kind regards! --LLcentury (talk) 01:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- @LLcentury: this was assessed by someone else and posted. Thanks for your nomination. Stephen 02:55, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
Current template on Aeroflot Flight 1492
Is there any specific rationale behind removing the tag? In my opinion the fact that the investigation is underway is enough of a reason to keep it up, as it encourages users to update the article with latest information. Cheers, FriyMan Per aspera ad astra 19:34, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
- Never mind, I should have read the description of the template. Sorry for disturbance. Cheers, FriyMan Per aspera ad astra 19:36, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
Australian Labor Party
I saw you protected the page Australian Labor Party, however you might have forgotten to add a protection-symbol to the article! Vif12vf/Tiberius (talk) 11:16, 20 May 2019 (UTC)
OTD
I reinstated this topic as I was just finishing my reply when you deleted it. Request you leave it a bit longer. Thanks. – Sca (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
- Sorry Stephen, just yesterday Sca notified me that had an "edit conflict" which was delayed by more than ten minutes. As this will pass in a couple of hours, I suggest we just leave it at ERRORS until tomorrow. Cheers. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:40, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
ITN reversion
Hi Stephen -- did you mean to revert your recent 2 postings? I was preparing to post the fire though haven't yet investigated the riot. Espresso Addict (talk) 23:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
Dummy deletion
Hi Stephen. Can you help me with this please? Just to delete it, and immediately undelete. More of a dummy editdelete, if you want to call it that. I'm pretty sure the article is not showing up on search Engines because of the previous page moves. P31?P40? (talk) 14:08, 5 June 2019 (UTC)
- The article probably hadn't been indexed by search engines. Stephen 05:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
- That's what I thought too, but it has been this way for a while now. And strangely, if you even search the whole term "2019 anti Muslim riots in Sri Lanka", the result is no where to be seen. Even if we include the word Wikipedia. Since a deletion for a few seconds won't be controversial, can we try that? P31?P40? (talk) 05:27, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – June 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (May 2019).
- Andonic • Consumed Crustacean • Enigmaman • Euryalus • EWS23 • HereToHelp • Nv8200pa • Peripitus • StringTheory11 • Vejvančický
- An RfC seeks to clarify whether WP:OUTING should include information on just the English Wikipedia or any Wikimedia project.
- An RfC on WT:RfA concluded that Requests for adminship and bureaucratship are discussions seeking to build consensus.
- An RfC proposal to make the templates for discussion (TfD) process more like the requested moves (RM) process, i.e. "as a clearinghouse of template discussions", was closed as successful.
- The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
- Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.
- The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
- The 2019 talk pages consultation produced a report for Phase 1 and has entered Phase 2.
Where?
And why wasn't it fixed? Govvy (talk) 12:30, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
- It was discussed at WP:Errors, and it aligns with WP:JOBTITLES. Stephen 09:44, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – July 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (June 2019).
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- 1Floquenbeam's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
- 2Fram's access was removed, then restored, then removed again.
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- In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
- The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
- The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
- A request for comment seeks to determine whether Wikipedia:Office actions should be a policy page or an information page.
- The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.
- In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop Fram. This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.
India/Pakistan heat wave
Hi Stephen -- Good to see you back at ITN. I notice you added 2019 heat wave in India and Pakistan to ongoing, but I also note it has been little edited since 1 July. As there are four items at the moment, which tends to exacerbate balance problems, I'd ask you to reconsider. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 02:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, you're right, the edits were not substantial additions. I removed it. Stephen 03:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
ITN wording
To clarify, I was addressing a grammatical issue. Another solution is to append the definite article. (In English prose, they're the Russo brothers.) —David Levy 13:50, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – August 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (July 2019).
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Administrators' newsletter – September 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (August 2019).
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- Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
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- A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2019 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.
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New message from DBigXray
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A bowl of strawberries for you!
Thank you for joining the discussion on RD: Carol Lynley and agreeing to change your mind to post. DBigXrayᗙ 11:00, 10 September 2019 (UTC) |
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...is working well. We now have one Admin closing a discussion with a personal attack on me, and you not allowing me to respond. Wikipedia is sick. HiLo48 (talk) 06:35, 18 September 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – October 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (September 2019).
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- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories
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- Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which
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- The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
- The arbitration case regarding Fram was closed. While there will be a local RfC
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Two lines or six deaths
Hi Stephen, regarding your revert. There are some instructions on the template which say There should be a maximum of 5-6 recent deaths, over no more than 2 lines. Remove any older than 7 days. I can't find any corresponding instructions at WP:ITN/A so I wonder where this instruction came from? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 05:38, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks Martin for raising this discrepancy. I don’t recall in any of the discussions about the number of RDs, especially when it got bumped up to 6, that there was a qualifier about the number of lines. Balance has always been managed by adding or removing whole blurbs. I’ll look around a bit more. I meant no offence in undoing your removal. 08:10, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
Leonov
When we get to Leonov, shouldn't we use a more current photo of Leonov: File:Aleksei Leonov 19 April 2016 (cropped).jpg. I like how he is wearing his two Hero of the Soviet Union medals. --- Coffeeandcrumbs 11:23, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
WP:WHEEL notice
I feel like I've told you this before, but if your administrative change is reverted, then it is forbidden to reinstate it. This includes pictures on ITN, which are edited through protection and thus subject to 1RR like other admin actions. Please self-revert and discuss. Thanks — Amakuru (talk) 11:24, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- The rules for ITN are that the top item is pictured. If you want to change the rules so that we cycle slowly through available images then start an RFC, rather than creating your unilateral view without any consensus that I can see. Stephen 11:48, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
- You knew that the plan was re cycling through the pictures, it's been discussed on my talk page, Gerda Arendt agreed with it, and there was discussion on the candidates page yesterday. It was simply not necessary to change the pic again after only three hours of listing. We frequently make on-the-fly decisions about putting different pics up at different times, so certainly this was not such an urgent or clear-cut issue that you had to wheel war with me in that way. I respect your point of view, but warring is never an acceptable substitute for discussion, and once again you have broken a bright-line rule. — Amakuru (talk) 12:02, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
My comments on the above:
- Amakuru: you shouldn't leave instructions to other admins in hidden comments, which have no basis in policy, and expect them to follow without question. This seems like micromanagement. A suggestion posted at WT:ITN may have attracted support and then would be more likely to be acted on.
- Stephen: you are not allowed to reinstate a reverted edit on a fully protected page. Arbcom will take away your tools for this kind of behaviour. Please ensure this does not happen again.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:28, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
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ITN recognition for Chris (sheep)
On 24 October 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Chris (sheep), which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:03, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – November 2019
News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).
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- An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.
- The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).
- A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.
- Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.
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Administrators' newsletter – December 2019
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- An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
- Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.
- Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)
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- The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF
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- The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF
Protection of Talk:Main Page
Not sure if you saw this already, but FYI: WP:VPT#Nonsense from mobile editors. Suffusion of Yellow (talk) 20:26, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
- @Suffusion of Yellow:, no I hadn't. Thanks for the heads up. Stephen 21:49, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
Blurb
Hi Stephen, could you help me with the blurb for the Chilean military plane? You are normally good at phrasing these well. Cheers — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:54, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
- It’s a tricky one, but the main tweak was to use the simple present tense. There may be some better suggestions at Errors. Thanks for taking the time to assess an older item, that would otherwise probably have been missed. Stephen 11:20, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
Happy Holidays
Thank you for continuing to make Wikipedia the greatest project in the world. I hope you have an excellent holiday season. BabbaQ (talk) 10:59, 22 December 2019 (UTC) |
ITN blurb
Hi Stephen, I started this thread for a more general discussion on ITNC. you said that we dont post same story twice. Can you clarify what you meant by the story ? The blurb are clearly different. Do you mean we dont post same article twice ? if so Then how do you explain Brexit getting a blurb so many times ? This info will help me to be more careful while nominating ITNs. Ping when you reply. Thanks in advance. --Happy Holidays! ᗙ DBigXrayᗙ 20:41, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
- @DBigXray: The story is the protests because of the Act, which was posted in mid-December. The the protests are continuing should be ongoing. The old blurb should have been nominated to be posted to ongoing as it rolled off, but it was missed. Brexit is only posted when significant events happen, and it’s in and out of ongoing when there’s general activity.Stephen 22:59, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
Happy New Year, Stephen!
Stephen,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Happy New Year! ᗙ DBigXrayᗙ 21:31, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
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Administrators' newsletter – January 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2019).
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- A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
- Following a successful RfC, a whitelist is now available for users whose redirects will be autopatrolled by a bot, removing them from the new pages patrol queue. Admins can add such users to Wikipedia:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist after a discussion following the guidelines at Wikipedia talk:New pages patrol/Redirect whitelist.
- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
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- The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being
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Russian government
Stephen, DBigXray now says he's 'fixed' the [3] Russian govt. nom. FYI, he posted this on my talk:
- "I have fixed the issues, while you were commenting. May be you can remove your last comment. Please share your opinion on the best blurb."
- You might want to take another look at it. – Sca (talk) 16:27, 19 January 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – February 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2020).
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- Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
- The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with
wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input
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- Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
- When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [4]
- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
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- Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators
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Please clarify your reversion
I see that you reverted my edit of (Closed) I don't know how, but could someone put 2020_Iowa_Democratic_caucuses on here?. Your comment was, "(Undid revision 939709028 by Ubzerver (talk), one wasn’t an error)." So, which thing that I thought was an error, wasn’t an error, and is anybody going to fix the thing that was an error? Ubzerver (talk) 08:16, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
- Snow close is an accepted term. The world has moved on and it’s trivial, so no, nobody’s going to fix the error. Your refactoring of the discussion on animations that had petered out was also pointless, a complete waste of time, and should be reverted. Stephen 21:45, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
Administrators' newsletter – March 2020
News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2020).
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- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
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. - A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.
- Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops
- Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.
- Following the 2020 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: BRPever, Krd, Martin Urbanec, MusikAnimal, Sakretsu, Sotiale, and Tks4Fish. There are a total of seven editors that have been appointed as stewards, the most since 2014.
- The 2020 appointees for the Ombudsman commission are Ajraddatz and Uzoma Ozurumba; they will serve for one year.
My comment
Look closely at what I wrote. I don't think I even implied that TRM is violating Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I just said that if his actions are permitted, then I don't feel welcome. It is disingenuous for you to prevent me from saying that. Perhaps you can think of a better phrasing. — Arthur Rubin (talk) 01:51, 26 March 2020 (UTC)