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Temple of Sultan Ezid in Tbilisi

Hello, dear M. Bitton! I am a representative of the Spiritual Council of the Yezidis of Georgia. The Temple of Sultan Ezid was built on our initiative. This temple is the seat of the Spiritual Council of the Yezidis of Georgia. I would like to note that many representatives of the Yezidi community from Georgia, Russia and Armenia took part in the construction of the temple. And the main sponsor of the construction of this temple was the Yezidi flock from Georgia. Therefore, we consider it superfluous to point out that the temple was built with funds from the Kurdistan Region and the Iraqi government. This information is a little untrue. We really hope that you will remove this item. We also want to inform you that the Russian-language version of Wikipedia has an article about the Temple of Sultan Ezid. Here's a link https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Храм_Эзида — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lion7777777 (talk • contribs) 18:24, Aug 31, 2021 (UTC)

@Lion7777777: Sadly, I can't be of much help to you since I'm not familiar with the subject. I suggest you start a discussion on the article's talk page and notify the editor who created the article (I see that they also added that the disputed content and its supporting source). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Tariq ibn Ziyad article: Visigoth army size

I tried to make the Tariq article consistent with the Battle of Guadalete#Engagement section, which seemed to have reasoned historian's views on the army size. But I don't have access to the book. The reference for 'The Visigothic forces were "probably not much larger"' has no page number, but for the preceding statement "One modern estimate..." gives page 141. I think that's a reasonable guess at the location, and I'm happy to have that, or some band around it, put in (most of the references to Collins 2004 are close to the p130-140 mark). If we want to be very principled, we can leave the template.

Either way, the current article is not satisfying, as it implies an army of 7,000 defeated an army of 100,000. Dhalamh (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

@Dhalamh: I asked for the page number because I assumed that you had access to the source (since you didn't attribute what you copied from the other article). I have checked it and it's on page 141 (I will remove the tag and update the ref accordingly). M.Bitton (talk) 22:17, 31 August 2021 (UTC)

Jason Perla is still disruptively editing

hi, the guy who reverted my edits on Airplanes (song) didn't refrain from what he has done, please send a block request to an administrator.-SomeWhatLife

Edit: he's been blocked, nevermind. SomeWhatLife (talk) 01:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Moses Hacmon

My editing was not "disruptive" and was following your lead after you removed a portion with no supporting references on Sept 4th and added the Unsourced Material tag. In YOUR OWN EDITING NOTES YOU WROTE "feel free to remove this too if you can't find suitable sources." I made the effort to individually look up references for EVERY single one of listed exhibits, performances and lectures and added them in whenever they existed. Prior to that there was NO REFERENCES AT ALL for any of the exhibits, performances, and lectures that Moshe Hacmon listed when he authored his own wiki article. When you reverted my edits you also removed all the references that I added in for the material that had them and now those sections are back to having no references. I am one of VERY FEW people who are actually trying to help edit this Wiki so that it is accurate, properly sourced, free of bias, and no longer gives the obvious appearance of being self-authored. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Verbotenvampire (talk • contribs) 07:06, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Why are you telling me this? You need to get in touch with whomever reverted your edit and suggested that it was disruptive. M.Bitton (talk) 12:10, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Intentional Misinformation

Hello, I am writing to make a formal complaint about the person that continues to re-add incorrect information about our company. I have had colleagues correct the information on Wikipedia countless times over the years, and someone continues to add it back. Promessa Organic has NOT been liquified. You & the people doing this over & over are hurting our business, are hurting the industry, are hurting the thousands of people that want our product for a safer & eco-friendly burial option. I want this to stop. This is an operating company & this wikipedia page is spreading lies. PLEASE STOP. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.213.233.163 (talk • contribs) 14:44, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to this edit. I have no idea what you mean by has NOT been liquified. All I know is that the content that you removed without a valid explanation has been restored. If you believe that the critism section is unwarranted, then you need to take your concerns to the article's talk page and explain properly why it should be removed. M.Bitton (talk) 15:22, 7 September 2021 (UTC)

Cairngorm cCub

Thank you for your comments. My additions to this are strictly factual and record deaths during activities of this club. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bblqk37 (talk • contribs) 14:26, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

I suggest you reread the comment about how to manage a conflict of interest. M.Bitton (talk) 15:44, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

September 2021 Response - The Mauritanian

Hello, I’m CharleyHart (couldn’t log in as I am camping in the mountains of southern Spain) and your revert confused me. Not constructive? Did you read my justification? I don’t think you did. Neither the movie nor the book it is based on are factual accounts of verifiable material. Thus, the only part of the movie that is “true” is that this confirmed terrorist was in G’tmo and had a female lawyer for a time. The rest is largely uncorroborated (not to mention all the factual corroborated material left OUT of his account). I suggest you look him up on Wikileaks and read his G’tmo dossier, his book, and his wiki page, as I have. Then, when you know a little something about the topic you are reverting, please revert your revert. I edit Wiki for one reason: to ensure it is based on facts. We are not here to parrot movie advertisements. FYI, this terrorist, his book, and derivative movie are firmly in my wheelhouse. What are your Bona fides? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.56.165.231 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

I see no reason to replace what is easily attributable to WP:RS with your WP:OR. You are welcome to start a discussion on the article's talk page (please remember to sign your comments). M.Bitton (talk) 13:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Not sock, but

could easily be a meatpuppet. Doug Weller talk

@Doug Weller: Many thanks. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 17:10, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

hammadides

hello...I just added a picture of the largest expansion of the Hammadid dynasty, no more, no less I did not even know that there were sources in a picture in order to prove that it is true, because in the article of the Hammadid dynasty there is no such thing. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rahimmilano7474 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

@Rahimmilano7474: Maps, like any other content, are supposed to be sourced. Usually, the sources are added to the file on Wikipedia Commons (see similar articles for how it's done). M.Bitton (talk) 22:33, 25 September 2021 (UTC)

Makroudh and cuisine related articles

Dear M.Bitton, i've seen you've reverted my edits entirely regarding this page. I will not debate your conclusions as i get your point, the paper doesn't explicitly mention an origin. Nevertheless, what i want to talk about is the logic behind the written methodology of these pages especially when it comes to where this food comes from. So, if we do not have an explicit source mentioning the origin, we just type: it's a common food originating within all the Maghreb states and leave that same statement unsourced? As an editor since 2009, i am honestly a little bit confused with this approach and whether it constitutes an informative statement. For instance, the same page within other languages mentions a group of hypotheses regarding origin, this way atleast, the reader would be able to draw some conclusions to where it came from and not actually make someone believe that Makroudh could have been invented in Malta or Mauritania just because no historian has given Makroudh a thought! Cheers Servitas Vitae (talk) 10:55, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

Like all other subjects, we handle them on a case-by-case basis, using common sense and all the WP policies and guidelines at our disposal. Obviously, claims that are common knowledge or easily attributable don't need to be sourced (unless needlessly challenged). I won't comment on the other Wiki projects nor will I try to explain why your edit on the Brik subject here stuck, while your attempt at describing it as Tunisian on fr.wp was reverted. M.Bitton (talk) 19:20, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

MAG

Just a courtesy note to let you know I have brought Motorcycle Action Group back to WP:ANI - Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Motorcycle_Action_Group_again 10mmsocket (talk) 10:06, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

Battle of Agueddin

Hi there, there was a recent edit adding WP:OR to a page that I created. I reverted the edit and explained that it was WP:OR but the page was edited again. In order to prevent an edit war I left a comment on the talk page, however I think it would be ideal to get another persons input on the matter and since you are familiar with these sort of topics I’d appreciate if you would be able to possibly participate in the discussion on the talk page.

Thanks! Kabz15 (talk) 00:39, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Algeria-Morocco standoff

There's a ferocious amount of Algeria-Morocco tension over culinary rights, isn't there? Almost conflict area worthy. Iskandar323 (talk) 20:30, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Nah. Mostly kids with nothing better to do on weekends. M.Bitton (talk) 20:33, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Iskandar323: If you're referring to SPAs such as "Corrector red pen": their type usually end up being indef blocked very quickly. M.Bitton (talk) 20:40, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Must be a lot of kids ... Iskandar323 (talk) 21:42, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

@Iskandar323: Most likely the same kid socking (that's about the only thing that SPA's can master). M.Bitton (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Cairngorm Club

Apologies for not observing Wikipedia etiquette. I and others will do so in future. The content I used was accurate and came from the Cairngorm Club website. The Wikipedia entry had come to the attention of Club memmbers who felt it did not reflect the club accurately. However, we will make future changes in a different way. Ccmember (talk) 07:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Is it full moon?

The crazies are out... We seem to be tag-teaming vandals again. Equine-man (talk) 23:36, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

@Equine-man: It must be full moon every night in their neck of the woods. M.Bitton (talk) 13:33, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Wives of peers do not enjoy the title "Baroness"

1. Male holders of the title are known as 'Baron'.

2. Female holders of the title are known as 'Baroness'.

3. Wives of male holders of the title 'Baron' are known as 'Lady'.

4. Husbands of female holders of the title 'Baroness' are not given any title. See eg., the husband of Baroness Hale of Richmond.

5. Lady Arbuthnot should not be known as 'Baroness', as she does not hold the title in her own right. Her husband, Lord Arbuthnot has the title of 'Baron'.

95.151.57.12 (talk) 14:05, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

That doesn't explain your edit. M.Bitton (talk) 14:10, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

What part of the edit? Where I moved the citation? If you want, you can move that to the end of the sentence again. 95.151.57.12 (talk) 14:16, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

What you wrote above doesn't explain any of it (including the WP:OR that you added). I will leave a welcome message on your talk page with some helpful links that I suggest you read. M.Bitton (talk) 14:23, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

If you want to incorporate my suggestion as per (5) above, you are free to do so. I'm not making more edits for fear that they will be misunderstood or don't fit in how you think the page should present itself. Best regards 95.151.57.12 (talk) 14:42, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

Azul

hi i noticed that u deleted my edit on Jugurtha article after i added the name in tifinagh with a comment "Baseless" i didn't understand what u meant they used libyco-berber wich wasnt big diffent of neo-tifinagh also the letters in the name yugurthen are the same in tifinagh and libyco-berber exept for ⴻ ⵓ as it was abjad and not alphabet and ⴳ in tifinag is g while libyco-berber is s — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aminehamdi991 (talk • contribs) 18:05, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

It's WP:OR (for obvious reasons) and it's baseless (because his name cannot possibly be associated with neo-tifinagh). M.Bitton (talk) 18:11, 6 November 2021 (UTC)

that's why i asked if it's okay to write it in libyco-berber the name will be <ⵢⴷⵔⵜⵏ> not much different and all exists in neo-tifinagh with different pronunciation Aminehamdi991 (talk) 18:37, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

also if you try to read the name as it's neo-tifinagh it would be ydrtn well cus libyco-berber is abjad so it's actually yudurten Aminehamdi991 (talk) 18:42, 8 November 2021 (UTC)

it looks like you will take long to respond so i will just add it i won't remember this for ever Aminehamdi991 (talk) 12:54, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

I already explained to you what the issue with your edit is. I suggest you familiarize yourself with the WP policies. M.Bitton (talk) 13:01, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

UAPs in Simulation Hypothesis

"Time travel paradoxes, antimatter, and other similar physical phenomena can also be interpreted within the context of the simulation hypothesis."

There are no references for this statement. I added "UAPs" to the list and you took objection and removed my edit because all of a sudden it needs references? Conceptually a simulation can explain time travel just as it can UFOs, this is self-evident and a reference isn't necessary.

"Time travel paradoxes, antimatter, UAPs, and other similar physical phenomena can also be interpreted within the context of the simulation hypothesis." — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.24.3 (talk) 05:50, 7 November 2021 (UTC)

Hello Mr. Bitton I am Papa Owusu Ankomah's grandson Papa Owusu Ankomah Acquah I can confirm the information that I am putting there. and you can even ask the man himself . Thank you respectfully — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ppphgg1 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

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Pediatric intensive care unit edits removed

Pediatric intensive care unit article

You recently undid 7 edits to this article by user:DrFRahlouni. It is not clear why these edits were reverted.

Changes to the article that were reverted include the paragraph of common reasons that was changed to a list and an appropriate citation was added, the infobox was updated, the list of reasons was updated (minor edit), some reorganization was performed, etc. It is obvious the editor made a very careful attempt to update the article in a very useful and meaningful way.

You labeled the citations that were added as SPAM but it is not clear why one would think this.

You mentioned that the article is not about the US, yet it does not appear the editor was heading in that direction, just that the editor was commenting on how certification of physicians is handled in the US since it's not clear this would hold true in other parts of the world.

Finally, it's not clear that you made an attempt to contact user:DrFRahlouni about your concerns. Instead, you simply removed the work without discussion.

What are your thoughts on how this can be resolved?Ewingdo 09:46, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

My apologies to DrFRahlouni. With regard to the spam, I honestly cannot tell what I saw yesterday that I can no longer see today. Looking at it with fresh eyes, I still believe that the examples and perspective in the article do not represent a worldwide view of the subject and that what was added again makes it even more US centric; though I guess that can be addressed by tagging the article. The old version of the Infobox template needs to be updated or changed to a more appropriate one. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 14:48, 13 November 2021 (UTC)

Reply re Whitecross Street

Apologies, I have obviously acted without checking how Wikipedia works. My name is Edmond Orzechowski and I am 77 year of age. I grew up in Whitecross Street and yesterday I came across the Wiki page. My reaction was to add my recollections of the 40's and 50's as additional information for anyone interested in it's history, but I now see that this may not be the place for personal observations. Please advise on what I should do , withdraw my comment/try to research some items (e.g. Pub Names/Whitbread Brewery ) or is there a facility for marking items "Personal Recollections? If it is appropriate to continue, should I create an account ? Advice welcome. Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.1.247.102 (talk) 11:01, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunately, your "personal recollections" are what we call original research (something that is prohibited by Wikipedia). The good news is that London's history is extremely well documented, making your task of finding sources for whatever facts you want to add fairly easy. I will leave a list of links to articles on your talk page that will explain to you how Wikipedia works and how to create an account should you wish to. M.Bitton (talk) 15:23, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Family Fellowship

M Bitton....on Oct 14 you sent me a notice that you had removed my revision of the Family Fellowship entry. I have now reworked the revision and could post it here or simply post it like I made the changes before. I believe I have addressed your concerns about using reliable sources. Please suggest what you recommend I should do next. If you want I could explain here what steps I have taken to make my revision better RLS 75.174.20.192 (talk) 23:59, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

Assuming you have addressed the initial concerns (the WP:OR and unexplained content removal), then you can go ahead and update the article. M.Bitton (talk) 00:02, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I will post the new entry but here is an explanation of what we have done.

The current entry on Family Fellowship cites 9 references (as listed in this paragraph we refer to old not new numbering). The information in the first footnote [4] is replaced in our new entry with a new website. In the case of [1, 6,7,8,9] they all are newspaper accounts and have been included in the new version. Three references [2,3,4] come from the LDS family fellowship website (LDSFamilyFelllowship.org) which no longer is on the internet and has been replaced by the website which we have cited in our new entry (LDSFamilyFellowship.net). The final reference (5) is a book "Gay Religion" and we have added it to the new entry discussion on conferences. In the new material we are submitting we cite the new website which includes programs from all six conferences and includes the 35 newsletters produced from 1994 to 2013 and those newsletters document all the key members of Family Fellowship who produced the newsletters and were leaders during the entire active period of Family Fellowship. Those newsletters and the conference programs also document the primary sources involved in producing our new entry. Primary sources who produced the new entry include ourselves, Ron Schow and Wayne Schow, plus Gary Watts and Bill Bradshaw who both served as chairs of Family Fellowship. All four of us are cited or were authors in some of the 15 entries listed as references.

I could add here, information from Wikipedia about sourcing which we have followed, but will not at this time.

We submit that these improvements thus provide reliable sources and include most of the previous sources. We ask that our new entry be approved. As for the "see also" at the end of the current Family Fellowship Wikipedia entry we consider this detracts and recommend it be deleted. It is not an official LDS source. We believe the Wikipedia entry cited in "see also" reflects a harshness in the LDS position which is currently inaccurate even though it may have been true at an earlier time.RS75.174.20.192 (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

I have now tried to make these changes, but will be happy to have you help and will make adjustments as needed. Three of the old references are still on site but should be deleted as they are represented in the 15 new references. RS75.174.20.192 (talk) 21:26, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

The new content is not yet available. Please advise? RS75.174.20.192 (talk) 15:50, 17 November 2021 (UTC)

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Family Fellowship

M Bitton. I am puzzled. We believe we have referenced the revision to Family Fellowship properly after you pushed it back to us and that our sourcing should be acceptable now. However, I posted the new entry and it has not been accepted and you have not responded to me on the earlier Family Fellowship thread above.

Here is more justification for what we have done.

Wikipedia information on sources says the following.

"Reliable sources may be published materials with a reliable publication process, authors who are regarded as authoritative in relation to the subject, or both. These qualifications should be demonstrable to other people.

"The term "published" is most commonly associated with text materials, either in traditional printed format or online; however, audio, video, and multimedia materials that have been recorded then broadcast, distributed, or archived by a reputable party may also meet the necessary criteria to be considered reliable sources. Like text, media must be produced by a reliable source and be properly cited. Additionally, an archived copy of the media must exist. It is convenient, but by no means necessary, for the archived copy to be accessible via the Internet."

In improving the sources on our revised entry we have cited the new website (a key source online) and cited a key item in the Family Fellowship history, namely 1) a published book by a reputable publisher ("Peculiar People" by Ron Schow, Wayne Schow and Marybeth Raynes) and we have cited a listing of numerous recent refereed publications associated with Family Fellowship members (including William (Bill) Bradshaw and Ronald (Ron) Schow). These are found within the article by McGraw, et al. 2021 found in our new entry.

We believe our new entry including all the old references should be posted and replace the current entry. Can you tell us why that has not happened? RS75.174.20.192 (talk) 18:39, 23 November 2021 (UTC)

Senior Professional Baseball Association - Legends.

Fernando Gonzalez played with the Legends in 1999. His statistics are published in the article Assessing the Boys of Winter" The SPorting NEws / February 12, 1990, page 31. I was trying to add his name properly to the list, so it WOULD link to his Wikipedia page. It may take me another edit or two to get it right, to go to this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fernando_Gonz%C3%A1lez_(baseball) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:900B:30D:BA2E:DCB0:47A8:94C9:C897 (talk) 21:27, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

It's good that you managed to find the corresponding article. M.Bitton (talk) 21:40, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Edit summary

@M.Bitton: I think their edit summary was referring to BBC updating their article based on newly corrected information by the police. Platonk (talk) 04:47, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

@Platonk: The trouble with their edit is that it does the opposite of what it claims, since there is no such thing as "American XL Bully" (it's either "American Bully" or "XL Bully"). Thanks for letting me know about the BBC's update. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 21:00, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

You might want to check out the pink-colored guidelines on this page (the busiest page of the series), which represent community consensus on that sort of article. Platonk (talk) 00:13, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Platonk: Is there anything in particular you want to check out? M.Bitton (talk) 00:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

In re your comment of "no such thing as" versus the guideline's "match the information provided in a news or law enforcement source", and when you should mention more than one. Platonk (talk) 00:33, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

@Platonk: I'm not sure I follow: the source states the dog has been identified as an American bully or XL bully. As I understand it, "XL bully" is a type of "American bully", therefore, I mentioned just the breed in the article. I'm not convinced the cited "Guidelines for Fatal Dog Attacks in the United States" should apply to incidents in other countries, but I don't see the harm in it either. Feel free to adjust the content. M.Bitton (talk) 00:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Aviva Edit - reliable source

Hi,

I have been attempting to add the reviews sites where buyers review Aviva to their page. I discovered that Trustpilot has been used in references for other sites and do not believe there is any difference in using our site. I am the proprietor. We have aggregated over 500,000 consumer reviews and classify the claims experience. I am open to your input on how we gain Reliable Source status - it seems quite arbitrary to me and is certainly a competition factor given the relative professional standing being acceptable as a Reliable Source would allow. I would submit that we are no different to Trustpilot in this respect. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.47.150 (talk) 17:20, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

That's what the reliable sources noticeboard is for. Also, since you have a conflict of interest, I will leave on your talk page some links to relevant articles that I suggest you read. M.Bitton (talk) 17:40, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

@M.Bitton - I am a first timer to this, it is unclear to me how new sources that could enrich the ecosystem are to surface when they are only as known to editors as their resources may allow. Meanwhile larger resourced corporations enjoy the benefit of inclusion? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.224.47.150 (talk) 18:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Why are you deleting my flags

Why are you deleting my flags? You say there is no source, I have sources, no source is added to the pictures, you do not have the right to delete my flags — Preceding unsigned comment added by SahinBasaran (talk • contribs) 12:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

Because they are the fruit of your imagination. M.Bitton (talk) 12:37, 11 December 2021 (UTC)

TP length

Your talk page is a little long. Why not archive it? Minkai^(rawr!)_{(see where I screwed up)} 22:14, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Where's the fun in that? M.Bitton (talk) 22:34, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

It makes it difficult for users with older computers or with tablets/phones to navigate, or even load, the talk page. And that's not "fun". BilCat (talk) 23:32, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

Revision of my additions to the Anna Turley page.

Hi there, I'm unclear as to why facts quoted by me regarding Ms Turley's 2019 election loss are deemed inadmissible due to 'no OR' (I confess, I'm not totally clear on the nuacnes of your policy) whilst her own unsupported comment regarding the reason for her loss is printable and remains? I hope you could clarify for me. Many thanks.

Regards, Neil — Preceding unsigned comment added by MolokoPlusPlus (talk • contribs) 12:47, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

@MolokoPlusPlus: Unfortunately, I don't know anything about the subject to be of much help to you. I suggest you take your concerns to the article's talk page and see what they have to say. While awaiting their response, feel free to remove the comments that aren't supported by reliable sources. I will a leave a list of helpful links on your talk page that I suggest you read. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 13:54, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Hello again and thanks for the prompt reply. So when I contacted you directly today I just assumed that because you made the call to declare my sources invalid you'd be able to explain which ones and why? My sources are mainstream UK government and Labour party websites. Look forward to your reply. Regards, Neil

PS I've checked and there is no active Talk page on the Anna Turley site. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MolokoPlusPlus (talk • contribs) 15:40, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

@MolokoPlusPlus: I did no such thing. You're obviously confusing me with the IP who reverted your edit. Using the article's talk page is your best option at this stage (it will become active when you start a discussion). Also, remember to sign your comments). M.Bitton (talk) 15:52, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

My bad. I got them wires twisted. Thanks for putting me right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MolokoPlusPlus (talk • contribs) 17:00, 5 January 2022 (UTC)

Edit Maghreb

Hi,

Sorry for missing to write the causes of the edit, this page countain a confusion between the maghreb and the arabic maghreb union, the maghreb existed before this union and was used to design algeria tunisia and morocco. So making a difference between them is necessary. In the current language, maghreb is used to design the natural link and union between these 3 countrys. here's an example https://www.schoolmouv.fr/definitions/maghreb/definition

So is more logical to put libya and mauritania in the page about the AMU Arabic Maghreb Union.

ThanksEddy hss (talk) 17:59, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

That source is unreliable. I suggest you read the Terminology section of the article. M.Bitton (talk) 18:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for responding,

I have already read it, and like it's written, these union is called المغرب الكبير, different from المغرب العربي المركزي also called المغرب العربي الصغي, this article mention exclusivly the Arabic Maghreb Union that is already have another complete article, so it's interesting to rename this article by Maghreb Al-Kabir or/and do another article with the geographic Maghreb. The Arabic Maghreb Union is more an geo-political union so can lead to confusion with the Geographic Maghreb that is the more legit Maghreb designed with this word.

Here's some none exhaustive links https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/maghreb https://www.thefreedictionary.com/Maghreb https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/Maghreb https://www.wordreference.com/definition/Maghreb

From an Ofiicial academy source

https://www.dictionnaire-academie.fr/article/A9M0128

ThanksEddy hss (talk) 18:43, 12 January 2022 (UTC)

Deleting content in Hinduism in Bangladesh

The changes I've made by deleting some texts that are found mistake or wrong. Wrong information should not be added purposely or by any means. Humanitarian 00001 (talk) 15:16, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

@Humanitarian 00001: Pal, you're the one removing sourced content, if you believe that the sources are indeed wrong, then why not provide some sources/proof for us to have a look at? Bingobro (Chat) 15:21, 15 January 2022 (UTC)

Bold page renaming

Hi @M.Bitton: Before I start formal move requests for those two pages, it would be useful to understand your principle objections to the bold move that I just attempted. I'm sure you don't think that anything with "djamaa" in the name is an English language common name or consistent with the naming conventions for other similar pages (See: List of mosques in Algeria). I assume your objection must be primarily to do with process, though possibly also to do with the inherent ambiguities created by the two pages in question having identical English common names. Let me know your thinking. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:42, 26 January 2022 (UTC)

We have a DAB to deal with the situation (I assumed you missed it). I was meant to leave you a message, but somehow forgot. M.Bitton (talk) 15:59, 27 January 2022 (UTC)

Abu Farès Mosque

I nominated the redirect Abu Farès Mosque for deletion. Please vote there. Loew Galitz (talk) 23:53, 14 February 2022 (UTC)

Ryan Hirooka

Hello and thank you for your reply. Ryan Hirooka has signed for CF Estrela de Amadora SAD who play in Liga Portugal SABSEG (second league) and I would like to update his Wikipedia page as some of the information is not accurate. We will provide three sources which will clarify his CV and where he has played. We will provide more sources and pictures which will follow. We would appreciate your corporation to correct this information and clear the sources listed as they are not accurate. If you could use the sources that I provide we would much appreciate it. Thank you for your time and I appreciate your help. Thank you.

https://www.tothetopfootball.com/post/japanese-international-joins-c-f-estrela-da-amadora-sad https://www.playmakerstats.com/jogador.php?id=169974&search=1 https://twitter.com/transfers24hr/status/1486400976609239045 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8A0:634E:9000:C8EE:AED7:FB7F:F62D (talk) 21:36, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

I have reverted your edit because you removed content without explanation. As I have no interest in the subject, I won't be editing his article myself. Feel free to update whatever needs updating and don't forget to use the edit summary box to explain what you're doing. M.Bitton (talk) 21:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Edit-warrior at Saadi Sultanate

Just to let you know, I saw that your vandalism report about them was removed without action, so I've reported Anonymous130112 at ANI here. Hopefully that will result in some action. R Prazeres (talk) 17:25, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

@R Prazeres: Thanks for letting me know. Now that they have been blocked and that the possibility of increasing the article's protection has been raised, further disruption will be dealt with more swiftly. M.Bitton (talk) 15:57, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Decolonisation in Africa

Sir,

I did make changes on the "Decolonisation of Africa" page without leaving an explanatory note. I apologize for this. I would like to assure you that it was not my intention to be disruptive. Please note that the table in the "Timeline" section includes "Ethiopian Empire" whereas the "Country" column (under which it appears) clearly points out (in note "a") that Ethiopia is not included in the list due to the explanation given in footnote "a". My deletion of the "Ethiopian Empire" entry in the table (as item 4) was merely an attempt to introduce some consistency between what it outlined in note "a" and what is in the actual table (in this case, the omission of of "Ethiopian Empire") due to the cogent reasons given in the note.

Regards,

Bupe

--Bupebwakwalesa (talk) 09:53, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the explanation. I haven't looked properly at the article's history, but whomever added the part about Ethiopia on "note a" is probably not aware that it's not unique in that sense. M.Bitton (talk) 15:58, 7 March 2022 (UTC)

ANI

I've mentioned you at ANI,. concerning Surge Of Reason's behavior. Acroterion (talk) 00:41, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

M Bitton please write an article on pluripotential theory. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.220.168.111 (talk) 01:46, 28 March 2022 (UTC)

2 April

Hello, i've noticed you undoing my last edit because of the origins of the Almohad Caliphate. The Caliphate was established in Tinmel, Morocco. It was based from its foundation until its collapse in Morocco. Just because it stretched from Morocco to Libya, it doesn't mean it's a Maghrebi state. For instance, the Roman Empire is included in the list of wars involving Italy. Moreover, you also removed my edit of the French conquest of Morocco. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StaticOasis (talk • contribs) 13:47, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

@StaticOasis: It wasn't Morocco and you should know that. The same goes for the Almoravids whose origin goes back to Modern day Mauritania, yet nobody would dare to describe as Mauritanians. M.Bitton (talk)

Your last two edits on the list of wars involving Morocco ruined the page and removed sourced information. I'm afraid I will have to undo them. For the Almohad/Almoravid Empires, both states were based and centered in Morocco and administrated from it. They're predecessors of Morocco, thus should be included in the list. The same goes for the Roman Empire/Italy and the Frankish Empire/France. — Preceding unsigned comment added by StaticOasis (talk • contribs) 21:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

@StaticOasis: You know what happens to those who willingly add unsourced material and edit war over it. The title of those wars (with no articles to back them up) were made up by you. As for the Almohads and Almoravids (who invaded present-day Morocco), I suggest you seek consensus for such anachronistic nonsense. One more thing, from now on, I suugest you use the article's talk pages to raise any concerns you may have. M.Bitton (talk) 22:01, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Unsourced? Made up? The battles I added are legit and I used the sources used in French Wikipedia since they don't have existing articles in English (Bataille de Kairouan-Prise de Tlemcen (1352)-Prise de Tunis (1357)). If I was aggressive in editing, I wouldn't have explained my edits and discussed undoing them. In brief, the page should be restored to the edit of 1 April 18:16 at the very least since it does have actual sourced information and to avoid this Almoravid/Almohad debate. StaticOasis (talk) 23:11, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

@StaticOasis: You know full well that other wikipedias are not and cannot be used as sources. If you feel strongly about them, then why don't you create them, source them properly and then add them? It's that simple. M.Bitton (talk) 23:15, 2 April 2022 (UTC)

Articles will eventually be created for those events. For now, I suggest we return the list to what it was on the 1st of April at 18:16 because the current list isn't constructed properly and can't be precisely read. StaticOasis (talk) 13:27, 3 April 2022 (UTC)

If and when articles about wars are eventually created (assuming they pass the verifiability and notability tests first), then they can be added. That BS list (a favourite of two blocked editors who keep socking) is in serious need of some clean-up, which I will do once I have some free time. In any case, further discussions should take place on the articles' talk pages and not here. M.Bitton (talk) 18:41, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

This edit on Talk:Azov Battalion

[1] screws up the formatting so that if anyone clicks "edit" next to "Discussion" it opens an empty box. I've fixed it by putting the source review in the overall RFC heading! Please let me know if you have any other suggestions on how to best do this. — Shibbolethink ^{(♔ ♕)} 15:00, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

@Shibbolethink: That was a revert (not sure what happened there). Maybe we should a note to prevent editors from messing around with the survey section. M.Bitton (talk) 15:08, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Question

Mr.M.Bitton - Thank you for your suggestions and it was very helpful. Would you say that the problematic source can still be used in addition to the two sources you mentioned? Because they back up the problematic source. Right? MehmoodS (talk) 13:13, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

@MehmoodS: For what purpose? You already have two RS that support the statement, what do you think adding a non RS would add? M.Bitton (talk) 14:28, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Mr.M.Bitton You are right, it won't add anything extra. There were some discussions previously on WP:RS on different matter (can't recall) and also witnessed some pages where non RS were added with support of RS sources and that is why I was wondering if it could be similar case in this matter. But you make sense and will use only the RS sources your provided. Thanks again. MehmoodS (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Sahara and Polisario

Hello, you are right that it is correct not to put "ocuped" to refer to the Polisario. I've changed it to "under control", I think it is the most appropriate term. 81.0.43.181 (talk) 18:14, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

That's half the issue, the other being the addition of a map in articles where either it doesn't belong or similar maps already exist (making it redundant at best). M.Bitton (talk) 18:58, 23 April 2022 (UTC)

Seraphim Rose survey

To spare you some time: the editor you are engaging with, Qaumrambista, has had a confrontational attitude towards me for about two weeks now. They must have been checking my edits and followed me to that discussion. I apologize but I think it's ok to let them be set in their opinion for the sake of just moving on. ~ Pbritti (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2022 (UTC)

I wanted to thank you

I appreciate all your input on the issue we were discussing on the other talk page. It's kind of you to take your time to do that. This issue doesn't affect me personally, but it does affect my fellow editors and that's why I care. So again, thank you for your input & best regards, BetsyRMadison (talk) 02:37, 1 May 2022 (UTC)

John “Soapy” Watters

I happen to know that Edward Anthony Watters the Third is, in fact, a descendent of John “Soapy” Watters because I am Mr. Watters. If you would like to question my existence, that’s fine by me; good day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18F:802:F260:E92C:B803:1018:2EEF (talk) 23:17, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

Summoners War: Sky Arena

Remove inaccurate information created from a disruptive editor User:Hatta2 Tag: Reverted

None of the information that was removed was relevant to the game and was fan-made content added by a now banned user due to disruptive editing. This removal of content was cleaning the page from this user's previous edits. 2604:2D80:5C03:3600:0:0:0:89AD (talk) 17:09, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Since you're familiar with the subject, feel free to remove it after leaving an explanation on the article's talk page (that I suggest you mention in the edit summary). M.Bitton (talk) 17:13, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Looks like another user removed it. And just a warning, a fairly popular YouTuber for the game recently posted a video highlighting those edits, so there is potential for more edits incoming for that page. 2604:2D80:5C03:3600:0:0:0:89AD (talk) 17:17, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

They restored a small part of it. Thank you for the heads-up. M.Bitton (talk) 17:22, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Memristor.

Okay, if that site is blacklisted by Wikipedia, I'll accept that, but you haven't answered my question yet, do you intent to?

You've already said, it was a good faith edit. 49.184.196.30 (talk) 18:40, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

I already explained why I reverted your edit (you copied material without the permission of the copyright holder, and therefore, violated an important policy). What other reasoning do you expect? M.Bitton (talk) 20:03, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Kunkle reversal

it's a simple history that is in many local libraries and historical documents. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia where anyone can add information. Everything I added is direct from my families history. Nothing derogatory or negative in content. The town was platted and the existing article is not accurate. WTF does Steven King talking about a town in Nebraska have to.do with Ohio. Damn keyboard warriors 1Texancowboy (talk) 01:08, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

As a historian, you surely understand why it is important and useful to provide references. And if the books are available in local libraries, it would be great if you could visit those libraries and pull out the references. Furius (talk) 02:12, 23 May 2022 (UTC)

volunteer marek

I googled "volunteer marek" on a whim and found this:

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-the-fake-nazi-death-camp-wikipedia-s-longest-hoax-exposed-1.7942233 wiki RS specifically calling out user "volunteer marek" for holocause revisionism

"Despite these claims, Wikipedia reveals that aided by the likes of other editors from the group, like “Volunteer Marek,” some members of the group are also active in downplaying Polish violence against Jews – and in some cases have even accused the Jews of violence against Poles. For example, in the Radzilow article, Volunteer Marek defended the claim that “Jewish militiamen” helped “to send Polish families into exile.”

I'm extremely confused why this user is still allowed on wikipedia? and edit articles in an attempt to whitewash nazis still? His talk page is littered with arbitration disputes over his behavior and edit warring as well. Is WP enforcement really so poor? — Preceding unsigned comment added by H51bjCKERK (talk • contribs) 03:16, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Mentioned

Hello M.Bitton. Your edits were mentioned at User talk:EdJohnston#A follow up on Azov Regiment. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 14:48, 3 June 2022 (UTC)

Thank You

Thanks M.Bitton for the notice on the Tajine article. Much appreciated — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaffzz (talk • contribs) 09:49, 6 June 2022 (UTC)

Boushaki cosmological operator

Hello M.Bitton.

This article relates to the research undertaken by Professor Mustapha Ishak Boushaki on the expansion of the universe, and it is listed in the scientific literature under the name Index of Inconsistency (IOI).

The professor's research team at the University of Texas at Dallas is working rigorously on this subject, which has captured the attention of astrophysicists and cosmologists.

If there are third parties or people who are bothered by the highlighting of these results that have been sponsored by NASA and other institutions, it is not acceptable to please and accept their request for deleted article which was noted as being of high importance for the development of scientific research in the United States and around the world.

Sincerely and warmly.--Authentise (talk) 09:28, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

@Authentise: I will leave a comment on BrownHairedGirl's talk page (she pinged me after you raised the issue with her). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 13:21, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Wahoo External link

The Sea Life Collection link appears dead and changed to iNaturalist. Why not note the change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.192.67 (talk) 17:29, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

The external link adds nothing to the article as it's sourced from Wikipedia itself. M.Bitton (talk) 17:39, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

Okay, but why keep the dead link? Wiki recommends to clean them up. Therefore, can I update it without a revert?--24.38.192.67 (talk) 18:18, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

I'm not really sure what you mean by "update". We don't remove links simply because they are dead. We have a choice, we can either tag them and let the bot do its job or (ideally) we look for the archived url (this one in this case). M.Bitton (talk) 19:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)

An FYI. The 'archive' link added is the same as the NOAA ref for 'Atlantic wahoo' in the Reference list. 24.38.192.67 (talk) 20:15, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

In that case, let's remove it. M.Bitton (talk) 20:18, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Pacific wahoo NOAA FishWatch, addition? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.38.192.67 (talk) 01:58, 16 June 2022 (UTC)

EW Jackson

I can’t find blacks in the source. Doug Weller talk 19:03, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Thanks for checking the source. I reverted their edit because they first added "despite being black" (while marking the edit as minor) and then removed the word without explaining why. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 19:07, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Oh I know, just thought you should know I checked. Doug Weller talk 19:09, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Much appreciated. I hope you're feeling better. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 19:12, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Only 4 weeks into my 12 weeks of chemo, getting a bit weaker. Still, not too bad! Doug Weller talk 19:18, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Stay strong and keep taking it one day at a time. I look forward to your full recovery. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 20:41, 22 June 2022 (UTC)

Thanks. Better today. Doug Weller talk 18:31, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Algeria

hello, i'm not sure if this is where this should be discussed, but about the religion bit in the article, i'm not sure about the reason why my modification was cancelled, i just added more recent statistics without even replacing the obsolete ones, which did share the same source, and i'm pretty should i did put the reference well. 196.117.162.140 (talk) 17:15, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

As I stated in the edit summary, it was removed because it's your interpretation of a WP:PRIMARY source. The one that you describe as obsolete is different as it was conducted on behalf of and published by the BBC (making it a WP:SECONDARY source). Hope that makes sense. M.Bitton (talk) 19:18, 30 June 2022 (UTC)

Creating a page

Hi there! I'm a relatively new user and I'm a bit confused about creating a new page. I've read (although I can't remember where) that I can use red links to create one. I followed this and wrote an article, and clicked Publish (or whatever that button said). It seems it did publish, but I'm not sure. I logged out and could read that article, but I also read before that the article should first be reviewed by more experienced users (again I can't remember where) which doesn't seem to have happened. Could you help me by explaining what I didn't get or do correctly?

Note: The article mentioned here is Abu Obaida (Hamas) EditMaker Me (talk) 13:34, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Another thing please. When I hover over the article link it shows me: this article is about the spokesman of Hamas' military wing etc.

Isn't it supposed to skip this line and start from the article proper, ie from after this line? What should I do? Thanks in advance. EditMaker Me (talk) 13:40, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

The article looks fine to me (no comment on the content), though you might want to check the last reference (aat) and add the following to the bottom of the article (to separate the reference section from the rest):

==References==
{{Reflist}}

I'm not sure what you mean by "it shows you". When I hover over the link, it shows the article's name (just like it's supposed to).

It has already been reviewed and tagged (as possible not notable), so I suggest more time gathering sources to improve it. If you need further help, you can always ask at the Wikipedia:Teahouse. Happy editing! M.Bitton (talk) 14:37, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi EditMaker Me, the reason why the disambiguation message rather than the lead sentence was shown when hovering over the link was because you didn't use a template like {{about}}, {{for}}, {{distinguish}}, etc.: hovering over the link will always show the first bit of text in an article, so for anything above the lead sentence templates should be used.

If you're unsure about how to set up an article, and especially if you're unsure about whether Wikipedia:Notability is established, it's advisable to go through the Wikipedia:Articles for creation process. Thanks, ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 23:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Oh then. Thanks. EditMaker Me (talk) 04:35, 3 July 2022 (UTC)

Dihya

See Talk:Dihya#Requested move 4 July 2022. Doug Weller talk 14:23, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Lemba page

Please could you reverse your edit since I created a seperate Etymology section (in line with other pages on ethnicity). Sanali.SD (talk) 16:19, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

@Sanali.SD: Now that you created the section, you can delete what's redundant. Please, next time, do try to remember to do both at the same time. M.Bitton (talk) 16:21, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

On my watchlist also. Doug Weller talk 14:25, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

Ok thanks Sanali.SD (talk) 16:23, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Boulevard Khemisti

Your recent deletions are excessive and don't comply with Wikipedia good practice. Wikipedia pages on major public spaces include brief references to major events that happened there. The events I listed are of unquestionable notability. I did not document post-Independence events, that should be an area for improvement of the article. talk 14:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Boubloub: The content that you added is clearly UNDUE and by repeating what is covered in the linked articles, you're defeating the purpose of the wikilinks. M.Bitton (talk) 13:14, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Wikipedia does not condone vandalism. Much of the content you deleted is not in linked Wikipedia articles. Furthermore, some repetition is often needed to provide context, even though it should be kept minimal. Please restore the content you deleted so that the article is duly improved. Boubloub (talk) 13:23, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Boubloub: Are you accusing me of vandalising an article? M.Bitton (talk) 13:26, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I do not jump to any conclusion, but it is not self-evident that your edits were made in good faith. You removed content that is clearly relevant to this article, not available elsewhere on Wikipedia, and drafted in line with Wikipedia criteria. Restoring that content, with good-faith edits as you deem fit, would improve the article. Boubloub (talk) 13:33, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Boubloub: Since you used the word vandalism, I repeat the question: are you accusing me of vandalising an article? M.Bitton (talk) 13:37, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm not accusing you of anything. I'm suggesting you restore the content you deleted, with good-faith edits as you deem fit. Boubloub (talk) 13:39, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

@Boubloub: You are responsible for the words that you use and you used the word "vandalism". What makes you think that you can do that and get away with it? M.Bitton (talk) 13:40, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Map of the municipal units of Albania

Hello M.Bitton, hope you are doing well.

I was wondering if I could request one last map about the administrative divisions of Albania. Could you make a map exactly identical to this one: [2], with the only difference that the new map would also include the municipal units (the lowest level of administrative divisions in Albania)? I will be able to make myself all the remaining maps out of this one.

If you do not have the time for this, that is not a problem. Cheers, Ahmet Q. (talk) 12:01, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

@Ahmet Q.: I hope all is well with you too, thank you for asking! I don't remember exactly why I left that one out, but I honestly don't have the time to go through it again. In fact, that's what prevented me from uploading the 60 maps of the municipalities that have been ready for a while. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 17:58, 31 July 2022 (UTC)

Alright no problem at all. Do you still plan to make it in the future though? Ahmet Q. (talk) 07:15, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

I wasn't planning on it, but I'll be sure to let you know if the situation changes. M.Bitton (talk) 23:21, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion, CSD G5s

Hello, M.Bitton,

This is a very minor point but when you tag pages for speedy deletion, CSD G5, please put the name of the sockmaster (in this case, User:Rayooni) in the field, not the sockpuppet. We do it this way in case anyone has a question about the page deletion, they can go to the SPI case for confirmation which is titled after the original sockmaster, not each individual sockpuppet.

By the way, thanks for your vigilance about spotting these sockpuppets, you really know this sockmaster's editing behavior very well. Have a good weekend! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:26, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: That's what I used to do until a CSD G5 of an article that I tagged was denied (it wasn't obvious for the passing admin that the master created it, given that the SPI hadn't been archived yet, and I ended up contacting them to explain the situation). I will do from now on. Thanks, you too. M.Bitton (talk) 20:35, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Given that the latest sockpuppet created talk pages for a couple draft articles, I think User:89.148.58.80 and User:88.201.5.172 were this sockpuppet editing logged out as they both track back to Bahrain. But I know checkusers do not connect IP accounts to registered accounts so these drafts might just have to wait until they are eligible for CSD G13.

It's really a pity that this editor won't wait and take the SO because I found some of his work, like about the Marrakesh Watermen, very interesting. Sometimes I really dislike deleting otherwise worthwhile pages but those are the rules that we follow. We must discourage socking. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:53, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

@Liz: Unfortunately, despite my attempt at explaining to them (while trying to forget their uncalled for personal attacks), they still don't get it (my guess is that they never will). I totally agree, socking must be discouraged. M.Bitton (talk) 21:05, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

Djazairess

Hi, do you know anything about the Algerian source, Djazairess? Do you know if it is a reputable news source (by Algerian standards)? Do you have any opinion on whether it is reliable for basic facts and information about local Algerian content? I've seen it scattered about the place, but it has come to my attention as the prevailing source on the page Ashura in Algeria. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:45, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Iskandar323: Djazairess is a content aggregator. Basically, they pull the articles that have been published in various Algerian articles and publish them on their platform. You'll notice that the source of each article is listed at the end of it. M.Bitton (talk) 15:22, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Ah yeah, look at that. Should have spotted that myself, but thanks! In that case, there is some rife misaccreditation at work. Iskandar323 (talk) 16:40, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

@Iskandar323: As far as I know, they don't tend to fiddle with the content. M.Bitton (talk) 16:47, 8 August 2022 (UTC)

Robert Ehrlich web page

I keep trying to fix links on my web page & you keep undoing them. 108.51.88.40 (talk) 18:11, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

Given the conflict of interest, I suggest you read the comment that I left on your talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 18:23, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

I read your comment and I do think you made a mistake. Some of my changes in links involved deleting non-existent web sites or unreachable sites (e.g. the one containing "~cups," others were to make the web site title clearer (e.g changing WMM to William MacDonald), and others were to comply with the Wiki directive to avoid bare listings just showing the actual web site (which can cause "rot"). Was my problem not being specific enough with each individual link change? Would it be possible to resurrect my changes? 108.51.88.40 (talk) 22:28, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

No, I didn't make a mistake. There is a WP:COI issue that you need to address. M.Bitton (talk) 22:33, 16 August 2022 (UTC)

User:NowLaterorNever

Just thought you might want to know that this user has now been blocked for socking. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:04, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

@IJBall: I'm shocked. Thanks for letting me know. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:03, 17 August 2022 (UTC)

Friend of yours?

I just blocked Nemew62422. From your revert it looks like you knew them. Is there a case file somewhere? Favonian (talk) 22:28, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

@Favonian: Thanks. I don't known them, but since the tell tale signs of a vandalism only account were there, I made sure they knew that their actions had been noticed. M.Bitton (talk) 23:27, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

Saharan separatism

Hi,

Many scholarly sources see the Polisario Front as a separatist group, why edit war over this? If I add the sources in question, can we quit arguing about this? NorthAfricanArmsDealer (talk) 14:03, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

No, they absolutely don't see them as such (unless they are referring to their separation from Spain, the de jure administering power). Saying a word in passing is not the same thing as "describing something as such". M.Bitton (talk) 14:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

"the Polisario Front, a **separatist** movement of the Sahrawi ethnic group" - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/10/world/africa/morocco-western-sahara-conflict-explained.html

What do you interpret this as? This may seem like a shocker, but no separatist group see themselves as such. If you claim that The New York Times is somehow an unreliable source then this isn't going anywhere. NorthAfricanArmsDealer (talk) 16:30, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Did you actually read my first comment? M.Bitton (talk) 17:12, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in, but while they may have been fighting for independence since the separation from Spain, they are often termed separatist in the sense of trying to break away territorially from the de facto control of Morocco. A cursory Google Scholar search provides ample ammunition for this. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Slightly varying results are produced depending on whether "Polisario Front" or "Frente Polisario" is inputted. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:09, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

@Iskandar323: 1) There is no such thing as "de facto" (it's an occupation). 2) Separatism has a specific definition: so, based on that, which country (according to you) are they within? M.Bitton (talk) 18:07, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Nothing is according to me, I am merely pointing to the scholarly sources that repeatedly refer to them as separatists. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:15, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

How convenient. You are merely pointing out how cherry picking works, that's all. M.Bitton (talk) 18:17, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

This isn't a 'common name' move discussion. The categorization of the group as a separate organization exists in a considerable number of scholarly sources, and it is therefore fairly reasonable that this perspective should at least be presented somewhere in the article. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:26, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

How about you start by answering the question: since separatism has a specific definition, which country (according to the sources) are they supposed to be within? M.Bitton (talk) 18:28, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

My opinion is irrelevant. Me looking at a definition and making a decision for myself would be OR. But the situation between Morocco and the Polisario Front (and Algeria for that matter) is complex and does not lend itself to reductivism. No simple answer. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:41, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

It is easy to sympathise with the Sahrawis and their desire for independence, but again, irrelevant. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:43, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Re: your cherrypicking comment, are you denying sources using this terminology exist, or just their weight? Iskandar323 (talk) 18:48, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm not asking for your irrelevant opinion. The situation is actually a lot more complex than you think, yet reductionism is exactly what the editor is after. M.Bitton (talk) 18:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Ok, but shouldn't the page at least note somewhere that the Polisario are termed separatists by some? Iskandar323 (talk) 19:02, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

What page are you referring to? M.Bitton (talk) 19:03, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

The Polisario Front page itself. I'm indifferent to the List of active separatist movements in Africa - there I can see the validity of the argument that the weight of the sources on the whole do not prefer the term 'separatist' for not including them. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:12, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

There you might enjoy "polisario front" -separatist beats "polisario front" +separatist Iskandar323 (talk) 19:14, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

My only point was that there is a 6:1 ratio in favour of sources not using 'separatist'. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:46, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I got the wrong end of the stick: I just checked the Polisario Front page and saw the omission. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:19, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I don't really enjoy reading pages of irrelevant Google searches. With regard to your question: as always, that would depend on the context. The trouble with such label is that, unless properly explained, it could easily mislead the readers. The Polisario started out in 1973 as a separatist movement (from Spain), but when Spain pulled out, it started fighting the invaders (Morocco and Mauritania). I'm not sure if you know this, but Spain is still the de jure administering power of Western Sahara. M.Bitton (talk) 19:33, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I did not know that. Curious. Also missing from Western Sahara, except by implication - it states that administrative 'control' was ceded in 1975, without elaborating. No mention of de jure status. Has Spain ever actually tried to press that claim since? Iskandar323 (talk) 19:42, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

Which country is Palestine supposed to be within in? They're still listed on the Wikipedia page for separatist movements in Asia.... will argue more once I'm home NorthAfricanArmsDealer (talk) 18:43, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I'm not playing that nonsensical game with you. Feel free to start a discussion about Palestine in the article's talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 18:51, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

We can talk once you calm down. If independent sources describe it as such even in a passing mention, I don't see why not? Is this just WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT? I too can call Balochistan, Kosovo, and South Ossetia "liberation movements aiming to end the illegal occupation of their homeland by a brutal foreign entity", but they're still considered separatists? There is precedent which I am basing the decision on. NorthAfricanArmsDealer (talk) 19:13, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I am calm, so either you refrain from making such crappy comments or you take your concerns somewhere else. Maybe that's because you don't want to see: see my question above and suggest which country it should be within (remembering that Spain is the de jure administering power of their land). M.Bitton (talk) 19:33, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

I will add it to the Wikipedia page for separatist movements in Europe then inshAllah NorthAfricanArmsDealer (talk) 19:45, 16 October 2022 (UTC)

References to legal sources

Don't you find it strange... But that's what preceded the hyperlink which Mitch Ames deleted (I've taken note of the development of that line up until Q3 2021 or so, which had been slightly tweaked since Mitch Ames' edit). 223.197.159.34 (talk) 13:16, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you take your concerns to the article's talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 18:14, 16 May 2022 (UTC)

As you could tell, the reason why this was brought to AN was that there are some editors who delete my post (and indeed the posts of whoever not having the same view as they do) at that article's talk page. 223.197.159.34 (talk) 13:34, 17 May 2022 (UTC)

What should I do? Go back to the article's talk page and let them delete my post again?

And by the way I have left a message at User talk:Mitch Ames earlier too. 223.197.159.34 (talk) 09:04, 22 May 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you take your concerns to the article's talk page. Could you help make sure that my message at the article's talk page won't be reverted again? 223.197.159.34 (talk) 13:20, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

The admins had good reason to believe that you and 112.120.39.187 were engaging in some kind of meatpuppetry and blocked you as a consequence, so unless this issue is resolved, your content related edits will keep being reverted. M.Bitton (talk) 15:48, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

Could you suggest how that can be resolved? I don't even know what those "good reasons" would have been. 223.197.159.34 (talk) 11:52, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

Now that my talk page message has been deleted ​​again. What could I do? 223.197.159.34 (talk) 07:58, 12 September 2022 (UTC)

Could you help? 223.197.159.34 (talk) 09:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)

Is there any other venue apart from the article's talk page? 223.197.159.34 (talk) 14:52, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

Edward Payson Weston

Apologies for the edit summary at the Weston article. I'm having difficulty with an overzealous vandalism fighter who keeps missing the target, and I assumed that the template had been added by that user. 67.180.143.89 (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

No worries. M.Bitton (talk) 01:58, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Khamsa

it is though. the oldest khamsa can be found in tunisia. the hand literally originates from the fake goddess Tanit. it was later renamed the hand of Fatima due to the Islamic influence entering tunisia. SN2004 (talk) 18:19, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

It's much older than that (think Mesopotamia). I suggest you read the article and if you still want to present what is uncertain and disputed as a fact, open a discussion on the article's talk page (that's what it's meant for). M.Bitton (talk) 18:31, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

November 6, 2022

Look M.Bitton, in general I have a lot of respect and appreciation for the contributions you make to Wikipedia. I've become a better editor through my interactions with you. But especially recently, I feel so frustrated by our interactions. I don't feel that they have been focused, congenial, or sincere. I don't want to escalate the situation, but I do feel that mediation or a conversation would be helpful. What do you think? How can we move forward? إيان (talk) 14:34, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

If you're referring to the recent disagreements, then there really is nothing else to talk about. They are unrelated to each other and everything that needs to be said has already been said in the appropriate talk pages. M.Bitton (talk) 23:06, 7 November 2022 (UTC)

Rihanna

Hi,

I definitely played in the string section, and it was definitely recorded at Air studios do you really think there are no strings on this track? Tryfgd (talk) 19:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

@Tryfgd: I already left a comment on your talk page about how to manage a conflict of interest. I suggest you read it. M.Bitton (talk) 19:23, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

Pieds Noirs

My mother was born in Casablanca in 1929. Her father was a French Foreign Legionnaire who fought to help the French colonize and "pacify" the Maghreb. The term "pieds noir" was created by the Arabic people in reference to the French soldiers who wore black boots. In case you need more validation, here is an excerpt from the Smithsonian Institute: "Camus was a pied-noir—a term meaning “black foot,” perhaps derived from the coal-stained feet of Mediterranean sailors, or the black boots of French soldiers, and used to refer to the one million colonists of European origin living in Algeria during French rule." https://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/why-is-albert-camus-still-a-stranger-in-his-native-algeria-13063/ While the coal that blackened the feet of a few of the soldiers' feet who were on steamers is a quaint anecdote, it's not the truth. The truth is that the region was conquered by thousands of soldiers who wore black boots and who stayed behind and later served as law enforcement, and this was how they were identified by the Algerians and Moroccans. 2603:8080:FB00:63BB:1ED:6A7A:7A27:48F (talk) 22:06, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

The Etymology of "black feet" is covered properly in the article's body. M.Bitton (talk) 22:53, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

Martin Starr

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Martin_Starr&oldid=1121952027

I wanted to say this so bad, I didn't think someone actually would lol. Thanks for your help in this, also ignore the fact I spelt spouse wrong in rev history. I have no other way to explain to them what a spouse is so if you have any other creative ideas feel free

Best, Zekerocks11 (talk) 02:03, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

AN3

Hello M.Bitton. Could you please undo your change here? The report was informative and could be cited the next time around, if this user continues warring elsewhere. EdJohnston (talk) 18:43, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

@EdJohnston:  Done. M.Bitton (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: they are back, but this time using different IPs (24.199.90.246 and 24.199.80.148). You'll notice that as well as targeting the same article, both these IPs and the previous one have another thing in common (they all use a web host, i.e., a proxy). This edit summary is a clear indication that they are used by the same person. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 19:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

I semiprotected a couple of pages. Consider reporting these IPs at WP:OP as open proxies. EdJohnston (talk) 20:21, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: Will do. Thank you for looking into this. M.Bitton (talk) 22:55, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

Hi

Hi M.Bitton, I appreciate you and I value your impressive contributions to Wikipedia. We have different views on some subjects and I think that's fine, becaue I'm sure that we, as a community, will be able to reach a sensible solution. I'd love our discussions to stay friendly and I apologize if I ever wrote anything unpleasant to you. Likewise, could you please Wikipedia:Assume good faith from me? For instance, I added the new map to Dhofari Arabic in good faith and you commented: "Stop spamming Wikipedia with your new shiny map" Thanks for your consideration. Cheers, A455bcd9 (talk) 15:07, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@A455bcd9: That particular comment was in response to your revert and insistence on adding the map everywhere. We discussed the issue and a relevant map was created for the article. As far as I'm concerned, that was the end of it. I too value your work and can assure you that not agreeing with you on a specific subject or how you're handling it has no impact on what I think of your contributions in general, let alone you as an editor. M.Bitton (talk) 17:00, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

@M.Bitton, thanks a lot for taking the time to answer: I appreciate it! Have a good day. A455bcd9 (talk) 17:04, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

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Fantasia

Hello, Why don't you think that the UNESCO inscription shouldn't figure on the page's summary? It's the case in the majority of other languages pages? Looks like you're the one defending a certain narrative? Elkhiar (talk) 23:43, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

@Elkhiar: What the other projects do is irrelevant to this one and the UNESCO inscription concerns Tbourida and not Fantasia, but then again you know that. What's amply clear to me is that you're only interested in pushing a nationalist POV, just like you on the French Wikipedia (Zellij article). M.Bitton (talk) 23:45, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Seeing other posts on your talk page makes it very very easy to see that you are biased. Please explain why shouldn't a crucial information figure on the most important part of the page, or refrain yourself from editing and undoing the edits. Thank you. Elkhiar (talk) 23:45, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

I won't stand here and let a single purpose account (obviously not a new editor) lecture me about how to edit the projects. You're no longer welcome here. M.Bitton (talk) 23:47, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Tbourida is literally Fantasia in Maghrebi Arabic (as the article clearly says). There's no dedicated page to Tbourida. You can check French/German/Arabic Wikipedia for the same article to find the same exact sentence mentionning the UNESCO inscription. I will continue to stress the importance of why it should be mentionned. Since you're not a new editor, I am sure that you're aware that Wikipedia is about collaboration. Elkhiar (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Also to respond to the Zellige article. I use reputable sources to back every edit I do. You can check up on that. You can be motivated by nationalism and not be chauvinistic. Elkhiar (talk) 23:53, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

There is a section for Tbourida and the UNESCO inscription is mentioned there. Fantasia is much older than Tbourida (as the article says).

For the Zellij, try doing here what you did in the French article and see what happens. M.Bitton (talk) 23:55, 13 December 2022 (UTC)

Yes, that is why I have mentionned that it is TBOURIDA that is inscripted by the UNESCO, not Fantasia. Also, is let's see what happens a threat? Elkhiar (talk) 00:02, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

A bit too late to pretend to be interested in what I have to say. You obviously don't like the answers you were given and are ready to do whatever it takes to inject your nationalist POV in the first sentence of article (after trying desperately to rearrange the order of the countries). M.Bitton (talk) 00:12, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Okay, well, we'll leave that to the moderators then. The readjustment of the order was a mistake because I thought that the countries where it was the most present should be first, because I didn't know it was in alphabetical order, but for the rest I take full responsibility. I think it is a crucial information that exists in most of the other versions of the same article, and it deserves to be mentioned in the English version of the article too. Have a nice evening. (Reminder, I do not know you personnaly to pretend to do anything, I don't need to prove anything to you or to anyone else. This is a collaborative platform and you are not a moderator or have power, please refrain yourself from making such comments. Thank you) Elkhiar (talk) 00:30, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

What you think is crucial (from your narrow nationalistic POV) is irrelevant. Beekeeping is also inscribed in the UNESCO list, you don't see anyone adding the nonsense to the first sentence of the beekeeping article, do you? In fact, it's not even mentioned in it. M.Bitton (talk) 00:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Admittedly, this is not mentioned in the summary of the page but :

1 - It is not the same thing, beekeeping is not a controversial subject

2 - It is the case for all versions of the same article, so a mention of the inscription would be the exception, but in this case it is the opposite, not mentioning the inscription seems to be the exception when comparing with the other versions.

3 - I put the link of the site of UNESCO which explains in detail the relationship of Tbourida with Morocco Elkhiar (talk) 00:41, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Utter nonsense!. I'm done wasting my time with you. Please stay away from my talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 00:43, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

A map request

Hello,

I noticed that you are basicly the only person taking map requests. I submitted a request about Katzaianer's Campaign but it got ignored.

Have I done perhaps something wrong in writing my request?

Thanks.

Franjo Tahy (talk) 21:54, 15 December 2022 (UTC)

@Franjo Tahy: No, you haven't done anything wrong, it's just that some maps are more time consuming than others and in the case when they are based on the interpretation of text rather than on a previously published map, such as this case, there is a big risk that the map will be rejected as WP:OR (it's been happening a lot lately). To increase the chances of someone taking the request, I suggest finding a map that shows the event, or at the very least, one that is related to it. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 00:16, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the info. Though it could be challenging to find such map. Franjo Tahy (talk) 06:27, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Hassiba Ben Bouali

Play nicer, please. That came from the French wiki, and I accepted it in good faith. Drmies (talk) 16:03, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

@Drmies: That's what I assumed and I was about to leave you a message as soon I finished a phone call. M.Bitton (talk) 16:05, 16 December 2022 (UTC)

Fatimid caliphate

Hi ,

Why in Algeria history he removes the Fatimids, on the French wikipedia there are already plenty of sources and the Fatimids are also listed in Algerian history before on the English Algerian wikipedia there were the Fatimids but it changed to the Sulaymanids I don't understand and in the english wikipedia page of the fatimid there is algerian history so it is surely a vandalism that changed fatimid against sulaymanid 86.69.237.239 (talk) 12:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)

One of the longest examples of occupation in the world

I have tried adding this twice but you keep deleting it. Wales is a country that was occupied by England under force in 1283. It has never been granted it's independence following that date. Therefore it has been occupied by the English monarchy for 739 years (in 2022).

SOURCES: https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofWales/The-English-conquest-of-Wales/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conquest_of_Wales_by_Edward_I 88.97.45.74 (talk) 15:46, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

1) Wikipedia cannot be used as source. 2) None of those sources support what you added to the article: One of the world's longest ongoing occupation is the English conquest of Wales (1283 - present). M.Bitton (talk) 15:52, 20 December 2022 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings

Whatever you celebrate at this time of year, whether it's Christmas or some other festival, I hope you and those close to you have a happy, restful time! Have fun, Donner60 (talk) 00:16, 23 December 2022 (UTC)}}

Donner60 (talk) 02:30, 24 December 2022 (UTC)

Thank you Donner60. Happy holidays to you and yours. M.Bitton (talk) 16:07, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

Ibn al-Banna' al-Marrakushi

I was about to revert this IP and change the opening sentence to:

• "Ibn al‐Bannāʾ al‐Marrākushī (Arabic: ابن البناء المراكشي), full name: Abu'l-Abbas Ahmad ibn Muhammad ibn Uthman al-Azdi al-Marrakushi (Arabic: أبو العباس أحمد بن محمد بن عثمان الأزدي) (29 December 1256 – 31 July 1321), was a mathematician, astronomer, Islamic scholar, Sufi and astrologer."

Then I realized this fell into your area of expertise, so I thought I would drop you a line and see if you had any objections. I was not sure if the polymath part needed to be included in the lead since it also mentions his other areas. Stay safe. --Kansas Bear (talk) 01:02, 31 December 2022 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: What you're suggesting looks good to me, though I'm not opposed to adding Maghrebi at the beginning of the sentence (in line with how we treat scholars from that era). The "birth_place" and "death_date" could also do with some adjustment to avoid the anachronism (I believe it should be Almohad Caliphate and Marinid Sultanate respectively). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 14:53, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

women governors

My bad on some of the info. SOrry. But, the January 2, 2023 date in demographics and in the pictograph is inconsistent with the detailed info on women governors in the other section. The new MA and AR governors haven't taken office yet (albeit MA is tomorrow). 72.128.110.201 (talk) 22:29, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

No worries. I have now reverted some of the recent confusing changes. M.Bitton (talk) 22:45, 4 January 2023 (UTC)

North Africa issue at ANI

• WP:ANI#Vandalism by User:Takiva
• Rustamid dynasty (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Takiva (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Hey M.Bitton. Did you happen to see this ANI complaint? I noticed that you and User:R Prazeres had posted warnings on User:Takiva's talk page at some point during the fall. Takiva is now indef blocked on enwiki for making unsourced changes. (80% of their enwiki edits have been reverted). From the current ANI it is hard to know what the dispute was actually about. Do you have some insight? The user is blocked here but is still quite active on Commons. It might be worth making a complaint to the Commons admins but if so, there ought to be an explanation of what is wrong with this person's edits. Since you reverted some of their changes you must have an idea. I'm guessing that it's something about Morocco. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:36, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks EdJohnston. The complaint you linked is indeed a little odd. I'm not sure where Takiva's block was discussed, but the edits of theirs that I'm familiar with were about adding historical political maps or flags that were unsourced and/or radically deviate from what is found in reliable sources. There is unfortunately a steady stream of such editors on North African topics, usually with a pretty obvious POV in one direction or another. I'm sure Takiva is not contributing very constructively on Commons either, but I'm not familiar enough with Commons policies to judge what qualifies as a clear complaint. I did spot some more obvious dubious/vandalizing edits of theirs, which I've reverted and warned them about here. I guess if they do more of that, it might be easier to report.(?) R Prazeres (talk) 00:34, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

@EdJohnston: I have no idea why the IP brought a Commons issue here, but I do remember reporting Takiva for persistently adding unsourced content to articles (please see the IAV report that earned them an indefinite block). Unfortunately, reporting them to Commons at this stage won't achieve anything, as WP:OR is allowed there and the admins there don't usually intervene unless one is persistently vandalizing the project. With two warnings on their talk page so far, I have a feeling that they'll get there eventually at this rate. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

Tariq Ibn Ziyad

Why do you attribute Tariq to the Berbers, and there are many sources that forget the Arabs, and the oldest historian attributed to the Arabs? Muhsin97233 (talk) 03:35, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

First of all, don't attribute other people's edits to me, and second, if you have anything to say about the subject, then you take it to the article's talk page. M.Bitton (talk) 13:03, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

Mazagan 1769

Hello, can you please explain exactly what is wrong with this edit? If the problem is 'Recapture of Mazagan', then i believe the insertion of these sources would solve the issue and the edit would be acceptable: 1, 2, 3 StaticOasis (talk) 18:09, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

I already explained what was wrong with that particular edit, but since it's something that you do often, I will repeat it again: when you change something in the infobox or elsewhere (be it a name, a number, a flag or whatever else), you need to provide a reliable source for it. Also, to avoid having your edit reverted, proceed gradually, leaving an explanation for each change. Given that you seem to think that "familyholiday.net" is reliable, I also suggest you read WP:RS. M.Bitton (talk) 17:53, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

Third Opinion Notification (Berber Languages: Algerian Population)

I've listed the issue regarding the inclusion of Language Diversity Endangered in the Algerian Berber speakers population table here: Wikipedia:Third opinion#Active disagreements. Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 22:58, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

@Blueshiftofdeath: thanks for letting me know. M.Bitton (talk) 23:02, 7 February 2023 (UTC)

I just noticed that the person who volunteered to give their third opinion on this has since been indefinitely blocked. They had requested we fill out the third opinion template to make it easier for them to understand both sides; when you fill out your viewpoint, could you re-list the issue on the Third Opinion noticeboard? I can do it too of course, but I figure there's no point in re-listing until you'e done, and I'll have limited availability later today. Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 12:42, 11 February 2023 (UTC)

Since I was online to see you add your viewpoint, I went ahead and just added it back to the Third Opinion noticeboard. Blueshiftofdeath (talk) 18:32, 13 February 2023 (UTC)

e-Estonia Briefing Centre

Dear M.Bitton,

We at e-Estonia Briefing Centre are trying to make changes to a wikipedia page dedicated to our Centre, however your account keeps rejecting the changes as unreliable, however we added a reference to our Podcast page. We would much appreciate, if we could add information about our own Centre and hope for better cooperation. 195.80.111.50 (talk) 15:47, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

The message that I left on your talk page explains how to manage a conflict of interest. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:11, 17 February 2023 (UTC)

Kolettis

No, you did well. I did some additional research regarding his origins. I changed it because i initially thought it was an error.

Algerian genocide figures

The Turkish news agency is submitting edits to wiki in response to the French acceptance of the Armenian Genocide, with the figures of i.e. 10 million assassinations in Algeria. My family lived there for 60 years and eulogized that it was very peaceful and safe in the villages and in the cities. You pretend that atrocities did not happen on both sides for purposes of liberation: Algeria was still tribal, and tribal warfare involves mutilations and throat slittings in the earlier war, and famine... It was different Isreal in the 1950's, when isreal was 10 times smaller, because the fierce tribesman only had knives and guns and a religious mantra of three things: "THE LAND, THE WOMAN and THE GUN"... today the Arabs are still trying to erase the 2,000 year old Berber semitic language and writing from Algerian schools.

Anna Girò - User 9x.xx.xx.xxx

Hi,

thanks for your message. I was actually updated the page I wrote myself, there was just a stub before. I'll have a look at what you restored. I'm sorry I didn't left a message as to what I amended. I tend to not be really good at it yet, but will make an effort, promise. I didn't know about the sandbox until two days ago so I update a couple of pages without it, which means quite a lot of changes have been done on them. But not to worry I was the only working on them, so any changes would be my own anyway. (They're quite niche subjects) I've started using the sandbox for third page. Thanks so much for your help and support.

-)

Re Parihaka edit

Hello, I am a member of the Parihaka community and I was looking at the wiki page and I wanted to edit the page to be more accurate, by editing in our exact population. Our exact population which I assure you is in fact 69. If I am not able to make this change could you please make in on my behalf. Thank you.

Kindest regards, Lachlan T

Update the film poster of the film 'Jarugandi'.

Hello Mr. M.Bitton, I am Sandeepmoothedath, a crew member of the film Jarugandi ,trying to update the poster of our film on request of the director of the film. Thanks Sandeepmoothedath (talk) 10:57 30 June 2020 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

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Ancestry of Henry Philip Tappan

Per your message to me, hereunder please find genealogical records from The Genealogical Society of Bergen County, NJ affirming that Henry Philip Tappan was the grandson of Major Christoper Tappen, who served in the Revolutionary War and who was a Regent of the University of the State of New York, and his wife Annatj Wynkoop. He was the son of Petrus (Peter) Tappen and Ann DeWitt. Henry Philip Tappan changed the spelling of his name due to a mistake in a census in Michigan and kept the change, but he was member of the Tappen Family. The Tappen Family also had long-term connections through marriage to the Livingston Family. Henry Philip Tappan's wife was Julia Livingston. This information should be included in his biography. It can be backed up by records in the Ulster County (NY) Records, which I can provide if necessary.

https://www.njgsbc.org/files/familyfiles/p1492.htm#i17892

https://www.njgsbc.org/files/familyfiles/p1493.htm#i53405

UFC 266

the ricky simon vs timur valiev fight isnt happening anymore. timur valiev got rebooked versus a newcomer named Daniel Santos. Also on tapology it says the simon vs. valiev fight was fizzled out.

AT&T

In the previous edit, the reference was made to these: https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/163097598168_/Vtg-70s-MA-BELL-IS-A-CHEAP-MOTHER.jpg https://www.picclickimg.com/d/l400/pict/164139762934_/VTG-70%E2%80%99s-Telophone-Worker-Ma-Bell-Abuses-Her.jpg Hope it helps.

Australo-Melanesians

@M.Bitton: there some misinformation on Australo-Melanesians Wikipedia page the term Australo-Melanesians is still a relevant term that still being used in academic community.It's not an outdated term,I can show you academic references to back up my claim. Soviet1989 (talk) 03:52, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for asking, but I'm not interested. M.Bitton (talk) 15:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Punic language revert

@M.Bitton Why did you revert my edit on Punic language ("Unexplainedc content removal + not a minor edit")? I carefully retained all info from the old version (I therefore considered it a "minor edit"), but reordered the text to make its order more logical (chronological etc.), and also to weed out several duplicate statements. The only real change I made was a correction of Mago being called both an agriculturist writer and a general, for, according to Wikipedia:Mago, these apparently were two separate men (if you have proof that both were the same person, I would be pleased to restore that part of the text). So, I think your "Unexplainedc content removal" statement is not deserved.Hans van Deukeren (talk) 17:55, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@Hans van Deukeren: I already explained, so I don't see why you're making me repeat myself: you removed content (including a source) without explanation and marked what clearly isn't a minor edit as "minor". Think what you want, but given the attitude, don't be surprised if any content that you remove without explanation, is restored (without explanation this time around). M.Bitton (talk) 18:42, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton Now that you mention "a removed source", and after checking my edit, I see that I accidentily removed the sourced last sentence of the section (I assume that you refer to this source?). This was completely unintended. If you would have simply asked me why I did this, I would have readily conceded my error and immediately restored the last sentence. And you would not have risked chasing away a serious wikipedia contributor. Hans van Deukeren (talk) 20:25, 24 February 2023 (UTC)

Stop making excuses and take responsibility for your shortcomings. M.Bitton (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

Wikidata

Hi, can I ask you a little edit please? 87.15.99.127 (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Sure (assuming that by "edit" you mean a question). M.Bitton (talk) 18:31, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't speak English so I don't know if you'll understand immediately. There are two Italian wikidata that I can't edit because they're protected. About two articles: one is Sina Weibo, the other is Consumer electronics. On Sina Weibo the Italian wikidata is missing, so it should be written "social network cinese". On Consumer electronics "Branca" should be written with a lowercase b instead of a capital B. 87.15.99.127 (talk) 18:39, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

I won't edit on your behalf. I suggest you use the talk page and ask those who are familiar with the subject to help you. M.Bitton (talk) 18:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

They didn't reply. I didn't think it was a difficult thing to do for you, but ok. No problem 87.15.99.127 (talk) 18:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

Argan oil

I semiprotected it for 3 months because it seems the disruption had a surge in frequency for about that long. If it needs protecting again after the current protection expires, ask for it at WP:RFPP.

By the way, do you think it's time to re-enable an archive bot on this talk page? ~Anachronist (talk) 02:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Anachronist: Thanks. I will look into it. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 02:11, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

Map request

@M.Bitton: I normally request maps at the map workshop but seeing that you are always the one to take up my requests I have decided to just cut out the middle man for this one. You do not have to accept this request and if you do accept it you can take as long as you need no pressure. Here is the request:

The current map of Oceania is centered around the country of Australia, can you change the map so it is centered around the geographic center of Oceania instead? Also, the current map has some islands that are a part of Oceania that are not colored in green. For example, Polynesia is a part of Oceania and only a few of its islands are colored green, and most of its islands aren't even visible on the map due to the way it is centered around Australia instead of the geographic center of Oceania when they could be visible if it was centered correctly. Even then some of the Polynesian islands that are currently visible on the map aren't colored green such as the Hawaiian Archipelago.

The geographic center of Oceania is 13°21′S 178°9′W by the way.

What do you think of the request? If you prefer me submitting requests to the map workshop instead of to you directly please tell me and I'll stop! — Treetoes023 (talk) 16:20, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Treetoes023: I will look into it and get back to you. M.Bitton (talk) 16:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: Okay, thank you very much! — Treetoes023 (talk) 16:24, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Treetoes023: did you get the geographic centre from a reliable source or is it just a guess? M.Bitton (talk) 16:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: Sort of, I used the World Atlas's list of extreme points of Oceania to find the northernmost, southernmost, easternmost, and westernmost points of Oceania. Then I calculated the midpoint of the northernmost and southernmost point's latitudes and the midpoint of the easternmost and westernmost point's longitude. The intersection of the two midpoints is the geographic center. — Treetoes023 (talk) 16:46, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Treetoes023: Let's call it an educated guess. Given the large area, I don't think it needs to be precise (though, it may need adjusting, depending on how the map will look).

To keep all related content in one place, I suggest you move this to WP:GL/MAP (I will take the request as soon as you do). M.Bitton (talk) 17:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: Okay. — Treetoes023 (talk) 17:17, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: The request is officially up! — Treetoes023 (talk) 17:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@Treetoes023: I will let you know as soon as I start working on it. M.Bitton (talk) 17:48, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: Okay, thank you for all of your help! — Treetoes023 (talk) 18:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Thank you

for correcting the pgv value in 2023 Turkey–Syria earthquake. Apologies I didn't see the initial value was wrong. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 10:55, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dora the Axe-plorer: Thanks (the ping was simply meant to attract your attention to what was brought up on the TP). Incidentally, given your interest in the subject, do you think that this map (on Plate tectonics) is worth updating? I have created a SVG derivative of a recently published one that I never got to uploading. If you think it's worth considering, please let me know and I'll upload it (for a review at least). Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:27, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Replying to archived comment

Hi M.Bitton, I wasn't able to get back to this reply due to work commitments. The ping also didn't work so I wasn't aware of your reply. Anyways, getting back, I think the map is great; it's much more detailed with the addition of microplates. Though the current image showing plate motions in red arrows are very helpful. I'm not really an expert on how accurate these microplate boundaries are in this map; I've seen many variations. Perhaps this is worth discussing in Plate tectonics talk. I'd add that the image in the article would be sized down so details in the map wouldn't be very clear. Dora the Axe-plorer (explore) 05:09, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

@Dora the Axe-plorer: thanks for getting back to me. The derivative map that I created only shows the major plates (the microplates were left out for the very reason that you mentioned). I will upload it and start a discussion on Plate tectonics. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 13:39, 25 March 2023 (UTC)

April 2023

@Valereee: here's the diff of their unjustified personal attack (their 3rd edit, having never interacted with me before, theoretically that is). Here are the diffs showing them telling me to "fuck off" in their edit summaries (twice[3][4] so far). I don't have a diff showing what they did to the name of the Algerian president (too rude to repeat) given that it has been redacted, but I'm sure an admin from fr.wp could easily confirm it. M.Bitton (talk) 19:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

So, the first diff, definitely a personal attack, and I'll discuss that with them. The two "fuck offs" are, interestingly enough, not considered personal attacks, per previous discussion of that. Rude, yes, a personal attack, no. I can't see the Algerian president diff either, as I'm not an admin on fr.wiki, but it does appear that was the impetus for the block there, and that weighs heavily for me. I'll keep an eye on their talk. Feel free to ping me if you leave warnings, but please leave them only for actual problematic behavior. Valereee (talk) 19:38, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Oh, and fwiw: 'theoreticall that is' could be interpreted as an accusation of socking; without actual evidence, try to avoid that. Valereee (talk) 19:39, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I know, but why would anyone attack me if they have never interacted with me before? On top of that, they are also following me. M.Bitton (talk) 19:40, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

more gems: 1) this section is about them affirming the exact opposite of what's in the article they are referring to (easily checked). 2) This is about them clearly misrepresenting a source. 3) They gutted the History of Algeria article, ignored what everyone was saying, kept removing the content and blamed me for not reverting someone else. M.Bitton (talk) 19:19, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm not going to get into content. When you say 'kept removing content', are you saying edit-warring?

I've seen personal attacks from both of you. You both need to take a step back and stop that. As an admin I only deal with behavior, and if both people in a dispute are behaving badly, it's quite likely the outcome will be something neither of them wants. Valereee (talk) 19:48, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

It's more than personal attacks, it's harassment (following me, constantly pinging me to explain the obvious, etc). M.Bitton (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll discuss that with them, too. Valereee (talk) 19:51, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

@Valereee: Thanks. I would also appreciate if you had a look at the clearly unneeded tag that they added to the Pastilla article (how a dish that is consumed in Algeria and potentially originated from there, as per the sources, not a speciality of the country? I did my best to explain this but they kept ignoring me, edit warring and comparing it to Paella for some reason). M.Bitton (talk) 19:55, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

If I do that, it turns me into an editor at that article. It's actually a subject in my wheelhouse as food articles are my major editing interest, but it means I'm just an editor there and, at least at that article, just an editor w/re Simoooix. Valereee (talk) 19:59, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks again for looking into this. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 20:03, 5 April 2023 (UTC)

What you call that?

I really wonder what led you here , here and here, and why you reverted my edits? SimoooIX (talk) 15:10, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

MB, I am a little concerned that you aren't starting discussions at these talk pages when you revert. Valereee (talk) 15:52, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

I may be wrong but do i need to start discussions for obvious things? (such as removing anachronism) SimoooIX (talk) 16:05, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

If someone objects, absolutely yes. Valereee (talk) 16:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Actually, M.Bitton is one of the editors that i learn from (by multiple interactions with them). Trust me they usually don't do that either. SimoooIX (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

Also you can clearly see WP:HARASSMENT. As they followed me to revert my edits. SimoooIX (talk) 16:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

You've been mentioned at a noticeboard

See Wikipedia:Administrative_action_review#review_of_pblock. Valereee (talk) 16:04, 9 April 2023 (UTC)

agf

I've unblocked Simoooix, and I believe this fairly new editor is well-intentioned, maybe just a little frustrated. Please try to take a little extra time reacting to their edits and explaining your own objections in your responses. Best to you! Valereee (talk) 11:21, 11 April 2023 (UTC)

ani

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Valereee (talk) 20:25, 12 April 2023 (UTC)

Deletion

Sorry must have been some bizarre windows moment. Slatersteven (talk) 12:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@Slatersteven: No worries, it happens. M.Bitton (talk) 12:52, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

I would like to learn the ways of orthographic projections

I want to learn how to make orthographic projections and I figured the best way to learn was to ask the master themself, is there anyway you could help me? – Treetoes023 (talk) 15:42, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

I'm flattered, but unfortunately I'm not able to. M.Bitton (talk) 17:23, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

@M.Bitton: That's okay, could you tell me what you use to make the maps and I'll just find a tutorial for it? – Treetoes023 (talk) 18:31, 3 April 2023 (UTC)

Civility reminder

Please do not attack other editors, as you did at Talk:Battle of Algiers (1956–1957). Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. There is no need to call another editor "childish" Daniel Case (talk) 02:26, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Daniel Case: I didn't call them childish, I described their personal comment as "childish attacks". M.Bitton (talk) 02:29, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

All the same, a characterization better kept out of a discussion since it's a backhand way of commenting on the contributor instead of the content (after all, if an attack is "childish", what does that say about who makes it?) Daniel Case (talk) 02:30, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Valereee (talk) 15:02, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Valereee: I think there is a communication problem: to me, get rid of what's been hiding the real problem (i.e., the interaction), means getting rid of the interaction. M.Bitton (talk) 16:33, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

I understand that's what you're arguing. I just am not finding it convincing.

Look, I actually do get the problem, and clearly others do too. The fact I'm not super familiar with the exact Algeria vs. Morroco nationalism issues here doesn't mean I don't recognize such issues. But constantly posting harassment accusations to their talk page is not the way to give someone a chance to show their true colors. It simply looks like baiting them. I don't love the analogy of giving rope, but it doesn't mean you go into their space and bait them in hopes they'll take the bait and behave badly. Valereee (talk) 16:48, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Valereee: This is not about nationalism, it's about someone who showed up and started attacking me on day one, but you know all of that so I could promise now is to avoid their talk page altogether. Besides, there is nothing that I could tell that they don't already know. M.Bitton (talk) 16:56, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Okay, so apart from the nationalistic edits, you believe this person has targeted you specifically from their first edits (as apart from simply targeting an editor who disagrees with them at articles in a particular subject)? That you are, for reasons other than your editing interests on enwiki, being targeted in a personal way? Valereee (talk) 17:06, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

@Valereee: All I know is that they personally attacked me, even though I never interacted with them before. It can't get more personal than that. M.Bitton (talk) 17:13, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Abbas Aroua

That resume masquarading as an article had been hanging around since 2007! I'm surprised no one noticed it and took action before now. Although the early versions weren't as bad, but it's never been great. Good job finding it and flagging it. ~ ONUnicorn^{(Talk|Contribs)}problem solving 17:34, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

@ONUnicorn: thanks. I'm glad that the issue was as obvious to you as it was to me. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 18:18, 24 April 2023 (UTC)

Map question

Hello M.Bitton, I just came across this very helpful map you recently created, thank you for that, and wondered if you'd be willing to do a similar overview map for the Sudan region.

It could use the same background projection and the Sudan's northern border would be following the Sahel's southern.

Possible sources are the ones you already used for the Sahel map, as well as:

• Afrotropical ecoregions, where Sudan corresponds to zone 5,
• West and East parts of the region, which are too close for an overview,
• Global savannas overview, which isn't detailed enough, too conformal and also includes the adjecent transition zones,
• Afrotropical ecoregions where it probably corresponds to the middle yellow area between the areas of the same colour. Note that it is split by the Sudd, which is coloured in light blue and not part of the Sudan zone itself.
• The Sudan region's southern border seems to be nicely delineated on maps 1, 2, 3 and 4, although I'm not sure about their source's accuracy.

I will make sure to check back here in the coming weeks, but probably won't be of much help, if any additional questions need to be answered.

Your giving this a try or forwarding to someone who will would be very much appreciated, thank you. --89.206.112.13 (talk) 14:50, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I'm too busy right now to look into it. I suggest you move the request to WP:GL/M. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

New user mass reverting articles

Hi M.Bitton. A new user is manually reverting articles around Arabs and Berbers, example Arabized Berbers, Arab-Berber, and Genetic studies on Moroccans. I noticed as they are reintroducing old errors back into the articles. I saw you name in many of the histories of the articles effected, and wonder if you would have any idea what was going on. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 22:10, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

@ActivelyDisinterested: Thanks for letting me know. Unfortunately, those badly written articles tend to attract the usual ethnic warriors from both sides of the fence who spend more time inflating the numbers rather than improving the articles. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:58, 13 May 2023 (UTC)

For what it's worth, this editor is also blocked on the French Wikipedia.[5]

—A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 22:29, 15 May 2023 (UTC) A. B. ^{(talk • contribs • global count)} 22:29, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

ANI

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Notifying for you, but the post has no merit. Callmemirela 🍁 21:56, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

The entire discussion has been blanked. But if you're ever curious: [6]. Callmemirela 🍁 22:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

@Callmemirela: thanks for letting me know. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 22:10, 16 May 2023 (UTC)

Translation

There's an article about the Sharifian Empire in French, Spanish, duch, romanian and Arabic wikipedia and I was wondering, if I was to translate the article to English with some help, adding the same sources and more references, would it be accepted? Kayzer aika gas (talk) 19:39, 17 May 2023 (UTC)

18-5-2023

Hi, the article about women and the role of Nouzha Skalli was sourced. Can you please undo the edit? Aymen el Moubarik (talk) 11:54, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

No, I won't restore your misrepresentation of the sources. What does the abortion in Morocco have to do with the Algeria–Morocco relations or the baseless WP:OR that you added to the article? M.Bitton (talk) 12:03, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

Western Sahara

Hey, could you please explain the issue w/ what I put on the Western Sahara conflict page? The article I was drawing from is brand new reporting about the impact of the conflict on civilian populations. Is the issue that these are allegations rather than facts, and that should be specified? I'm happy to put it on this page if you think it belongs there, I just don't see an obvious place to add it. Thanks! Catjacket (talk) 22:56, 18 May 2023 (UTC)

A barnstar for your incredible work on the Horn of Africa relief map :)

		The Original Barnstar
		Here's a barnstar for your incredible work on the Horn of Africa relief map! Really appreciate the effort you put into it :) KluskaSlaska (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

Also, on a related note, I would love to do some more map work once I have more time in late summer. Do you have any good guides on how to get started on maps for Wikipedia? :) KluskaSlaska (talk) 16:21, 21 May 2023 (UTC)

SPI

Hi! I have opened an SPI where you were involved. Feel free to comment if required. – Callmemirela 🍁 22:58, 2 June 2023 (UTC)

@Callmemirela: thanks for letting me know. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 14:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Map creation and editing

What software is generally useful for creating and editing maps? Do the final files have to be in SVG format? Vacosea (talk) 18:20, 14 June 2023 (UTC)

@Vacosea: you can't go wrong with Inkscape. Although SVG tend to be preferred, they don't have to be in vector format. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 14:02, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

I think that you might appreciate a hot stimulating beverage when you are being dumped on for no obvious reason. Robert McClenon (talk) 01:12, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Thank you, Robert McClenon, much appreciated. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 09:08, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

Request to comment

I request you to comment on this discussion. Thanks. Cinephilekrr (talk) 12:52, 21 June 2023 (UTC)