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Some of the AFDs you commented in before were closed and then restarted again

You commented in many of the AFDs started by a now banned sock against Richard Norton, which were closed, then instead of being reopened, were restarted, thus any comment you made previously lost. You might want to check on that. [1] Gattosby. Also some were nominated by the now blocked for life [2] Ocean Mystic Researcher. I noticed you commented in a lot of them the day they were opened. Dream Focus 04:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Already commented at many of the renominations. My greatest concern is the involvements of those sockpuppets. I do hope SPI and Checkuser are able to determine which editor(s) may be involved in such blatant attempts to create a false consensus. Yikes. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:55, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Penny Plunderer

You're the only keep !voter that explained yourself well. I find it baffling that Colonel Warden compared me to a judge and danced over a simple question. I also find it odd that Dream Focus !voted without answering my simple question. Thanks for bringing some sense to the AfD. Joe Chill (talk) 23:19, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

I simply thought that a explaination was needed, specially as you did grant that a merge was worth considering. Please don't hold it against the others that they were perhaps less inciteful. Best regards, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 00:39, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Thomas Hobson (actor), or 261 or more articles rescued

Thank you for your work in expanding Thomas Hobson (actor). As I noted in the AfD, your additions have made it clear how he is a significant actor, and I've withdrawn my nomination.

I started to send you a rescue barnstar as well, but looking at your user page, you probably have a closet full of them. :) Again, nicely done with the (start to the) improvements to the article! —C.Fred (talk) 13:22, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Displaying a barnstar, even if one has a few already, can perhaps help to motivate others in being pro-active... and in truth it lets the recipient know his or her efforts are appreciated... just as does receiving a nice note such as you have sent me. Thank you very much. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 16:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Abby Hagyard

Replied on my talk page. Awesome job in fixing that article up.  --Joshua Scott (LiberalFascist) 02:57, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Sarah Kay (poet)

Hi MichaelQSchmidt, I well remember some brilliant work you did sometime back on articles I was trying to rescue from deletion. I've been doing some work on Sarah Kay (poet), currently listed as AfD ( The case seems to suffer from the totally irrelevant fact that there are several significant people called Sarah Kay, and also her project (Voice Project) is one of many bearing that name. The other factor, it seems to me, is that she is a spoken word poet, so "publication" is live performances; there are many powerful performaces on YouTube but very little in print. If you have time, I'd be grateful for your opinion. Best regards — Hebrides (talk) 06:25, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

The article is plagued by the woman's common name and the common name of her spoken word project. I note that the author is being far more helpful and open to suggestions than many new editors whose works are sent to AFD, and his efforts to address concerns seem to be bearing fruit. I believe this article might best be allowed to grow and improve through the course of regular editing. It can always be revisited in a few months. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:51, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to look at this, and for sharing your wisdom. It's nice to have confirmation that I am not being unreasonable to vote this one as a "keep". From what I've seen and read, she seems to concentrate on her art and on her work with teenagers, instead of trying to concentrate on getting publicity for herself. I'll be watching the progress of this AfD with interest. Thanks again — Hebrides (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for asking. When I have time later on this evening, I'll try some of my own google-foo. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:56, 4 June 2010 (UTC)


Rlevse checked your hook for the article House!. There needs to be a reference after the hook. Also, what wasn't said is that every section has to be referenced except for the plot section (in this case, it has to be because the hook is the plot). Joe Chill (talk) 03:04, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Got it done. Thanks. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 16:46, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for House!

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New person propsed after deletion earlier in year> New citation

Hello, I am working on a project for London film premieres for a summer sponser and see Mark had a page before though it was deleted for lack of notability. However, I would like to add a new page for Mark Boardman and have already citiated below many missing articles regarding his TV, radio and other work which make me positive he should have a permanent page here. He would be a big asset to Wikipedia and a great resource. There are a number of people rallying for him to get one and his recent press in the papers and magazines should attribute this.

Having researched, I have used sources and the below is the draft I would like to submit.

Mark Boardman (born 1980) in Essex is a entertainment & showbiz expert spending 6 years as a journalist. As a self Gossip columist[1] and Paparazzi [2] Since 2007 he has been most Notable for his numerous TV appearances and celeb based documentaries.

His first experienced a major TV role as a chat show host on Homemade for T4 [3] which ran for 1 series where alongside his showbiz mate [4] Dave Berry modestly claims

Mark; as a celebrity hunter is really the star of the show and we are on the same level

[5]. His appearance on Channel 4[6] lead to a big interview with Miquita Oliver [7] & co presenters. Mark has appeared on over a dozen TV programmes including This Morning [8] where he discussed ways to get A-listers on your side and the art of autograph collecting on " Collectors corner ".

In 2003, he appeared on the The Terry and Gaby Show [9] where as a audience member was invited up on stage by Gaby Roslin [10] a fellow vegetarian to talk about his weekly experience of attending the show and meeting stars including Michael Buble [11]

For the BBC [12] in 2007 he filmed a TV documentary regarding London film premieres and discussed why celebs are so in demand right now, he then went on to meet Hugh Grant[13] when filming for Inside out[14]

and shared experiences of his lifestyle. Having met over 3500 celebrities in London [15] on the red carpet [16] where only a superstar [17] is worthy of shaking his hand. Mark was hired as the roving celebrity reporter for [18]and his first broadcast was for the Britawards [19]2007.[20]

Celebrity Quotes

Steve Jones [21] on Mark

one of Tv's rising stars

June Sarpong [22]

Mark is gonna be a stars

Saidwhat website [23] quotes Mark as saying to [24]

Can you record a answerphone message for me

External links

His official website [25]

[26] Quotes Mark as saying to [27] "Can you record a answerphone message for me"<p? A regular of Local radio and a celeb pundit and star blogger, Mark is regarded by many and listed as a minor UK celebrity on Pb works[28] Since 2004 Mark has run his own celebrity / London film premiere website and has nearly 3000 followers on Twitter [29]

The Guardian [30] online wrote a piece [31]

Mark Boardman is trying vainly to keep up appearances. He started going out of his way to meet celebrities 19 years ago, though he stretched the definition of celebrity somewhat with a snap of Russ Swift - the record holder for parking in narrow spaces, as if you didn't know. But Mark has now become a sage in the art and recently grabbed the autographs of Ewan McGregor - "he's partial to a choc Magnum" and pop "star" Lee Ryan - "who I watched on the backstage bouncy castle with Jodie Marsh" at Popbeach. Classy.

Tvstarlondon (talk) 12:06, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I have tidied this up a bit and put it in a user page for him, and will give him some advice (including not to spam the same request across multiple talk pages). You are welcome to give him more advice, but I don't think this has much chance - it was deleted at AfD, recreated, G4-ed and salted, and there is nothing new here - main claimed celbrity seems to be as a celebrity-chaser. But Mr Boardman has a determined SPA fan-club - Celebritypresenter (talk · contribs), TVfanaticlady (talk · contribs) Celebrityreview (talk · contribs) and now Tvstarlondon (talk · contribs), and it may end up at DRV. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:26, 7 June 2010 (UTC)


Do you think that the article that I started Raging Sharks looks fine? Joe Chill (talk) 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

On a side note, I closed the AfD for Booky's Crush as withdrawn. Joe Chill (talk) 23:08, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Pretty good!. I think it will survive nicely. Good job. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q.
Thanks. I was asking because I didn't want a bad looking article on DYK. My film articles aren't usually the greatest, but this appears to be fine. Maybe I need more faith in my work. Joe Chill (talk) 02:52, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Been giving it a couple tweaks and added the various projects to the talk page. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 02:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Michael Q. Schmidt

Hi, Michael.

First, you're most welcome re those tweaks I made; I think I missed on that one. I've an idea, and want to run it by you, first. I'd like to demonstrate something, an example, really, and I'd like your leave to run it on your article. It concerns formatting of filmographies, and the part re formatting them as bulleted lists could occur here. I'm also looking for input on ways lists might be styled. You'll also learn a bit about CSS, too. Interested? Cheers, Jack Merridew 02:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Ahh... a test case. Well, go ahead... as the article is Wikipedia's... but thank you for asking. You might pull more from here to expand the test should you deem it beneficial.
And I do see that there is a project properly listed under television that is somehow incorrectly duplicated under films. I would definitely like to learn more about CSS... but do you think such changes will cause angst elsewhere in the project? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 02:47, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
What I have in mind is what's called a styling-hook. It's a way for a CSS 'selector' to select particular elements of a page to apply some styling rules to. The CSS you've likely seen pretty much exclusively is inline CSS; in a style-attribute, and note that inline CSS does not involve selectors, as the rules are meant to apply to whatever you've stuck a stlye-attribute into. This is really a very inappropriate use of CSS, the whole point of which is to encapsulate styling details into a stylesheet where a single copy of whatever styling is kept so that it applies to a great many pages. You should read some of out pages on CSS, to help with what I'm saying.
It has no apparent effect at the moment because there are no rules using the hook the wrapper those templates implement. But we can write some rules, and that's what I'm after input on. What sort of styling changes do you think might be appropriate to develop and arrange to automagically apply to all bulleted lists wrapped this way? An example would be a different bullet than normal (tiny-film-reel-icon?), or no bullet. There's no 'header' so there's no header to paint blue, for example. To run these tests, I'm going to be putting some rules in my 'user stylesheet' and for you to see things as I do, you'll have to copy my user stylesheet to yours.
As to wikt:angst; dunno. This is a good faith effort to explore options. I believe we're allowed that freedom. For this test, the effects will only be visible to those who copy the rules to their own user stylesheets, and anyone is free to run test of their own. A simple rule would make the entire background LightSteelBlue with neon green borders; not my sort of look, though.
What skin you have selected in preferences? You're user stylesheet varies per the skin. These skins are all about CSS; changing skins means changing stylesheets.
Sincerely, Street-Legal Sockpuppet Jack Merridewthis user is a sock puppet 03:20, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Okay. Now I have some homework. So how will this affect instances where I have columnated filmography in a bulleted list, such as I did at Douglas Tait? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:29, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I just added that page to our test suite. If you copy my User:Jack_Merridew/monobook.css to yours, or vector.css; whatevers, you'll see my first test. You have to be sure and do the proper full refresh when updating your user style sheet. Read the note at the top when editing and do what it says. Then go edit one of these articles. I'm thinking you don't edit your own article, but you don't actually have to change anything, just edit, preview and save. If you done nothing, no edit will be made but the page will have been purged; or use purge, if you know how that sort of thing works. Cheers, Jack Merridew 03:57, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Created User:MichaelQSchmidt/monobook.css and cleared my cache. And no... as my name is not Jimmy Wales, I do not edit the article about me. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:06, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Wouldn't a pale grey or steel look better than that lavender color? And how would we then use the CSS in a columnated filmography like which is at Douglas Tait? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:10, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Never mind... I just looked at Tait and it too now has a lavender background over the filmography section... due no doubt to my now having monobook.css Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:14, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
So if I understand this corectly... no one can see this color scheme yet unless they have the monobook.css installed? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:19, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
You're seeing it then. No, you and I are the only ones seeing this, unless someone chooses to copy these rules themselves. User style sheets are user-specific. Mostly this is for things like accessibility (font-size:200%;), but people do user stylesheets for all sorts of things, and not just wiki. Browsers allow this sort of thing, so people can write rules for anything they like; read Google News in hot pink. Clearing the cache is important when doing this sort of thing. There are multiple levels, too; the server cache, your local... If you're not seeing something you think you should, something usually needs another poke.
Those are just test rules; looks like shit to me. The idea here is to figure out what is reasonable and useful. I don't like the monobook square teal bullets, but I like most of monobook, so I stick with it. I hate vector; hobbled by usability. I suggested a film reel icon; an obvious idea, but just one I'm throwing out, not sayin' the whole wiki needs it. There are other things to consider. On that Tait page, I see the titles are italicized with the ''-notation. That generates an i-element (<i>title</i>) (and note that it would be better if MediaWiki was generating em-elements, for emphasis. a digression; ignore). Selectors can target elements, so we could do something there. I'll get back to you in ten minutes.
Good call re your editing 'you'. I didn't mean to seem to be nudging you in that direction. At this point, we don't have to edit these pages further to do a lot of test with the css pages. This is a key concept of css; you change the styling of pages without having to edit them. At all. (well, aside from the purging, which will occur naturally over time.) I will look at the whole article again, and do some reasonable editing. Since I'm here, after all.
Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:42, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
Try copying my monobook.css to yours, again, and refreshing everything. Bigger titles via Clarke's Third Law. No change required to the pages. This gets really handy on websites that have more than a few pages. It can save a ton of work. Cheers, Jack Merridew 04:50, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

← Also, the idea is that if we come up with something really useful, with a consensus of the masses and all, it could be added to site-wide stylesheets so that everyone gets it. And awesome ideas get put into the core stylesheets of MediaWiki itself, so all the projects get it, as to many non-WMF wikis that use MediaWiki, too. There are, of course, all manner of customizations and overrides possible. Jack Merridew 05:00, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Booky's Crush

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Brenthurst Foundation

Would you mind giving me an opinion on how I did on the article Brenthurst Foundation? Also, do you know of anyone else that is good with helping with articles so that I don't have to bug you so much? Joe Chill (talk) 01:51, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

I'll take a look right now. And no, you do not "bug" me all the time. Sheesh. I'm always happy to help. :) Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:56, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Made a couple minor tweaks and added projects to the talk page. Also set it as start since it is now more than a stub. Nice. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 02:15, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. This is the first time that I expanded an article on an organization. I'm surprised that I managed to get the article above 2,300 characters. Joe Chill (talk) 02:16, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
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Hey Michael I wanted to thank you for improving Douglas Tait's Wiki page. I am new to Wikipedia and I appreciate you rescuing it. It is obvious to me that Tait is a notable actor who has starred in numerous movies and television shoes. in 2010 he has starred in 3 films, so I don't understand why people on here are still nominating to delete it. If there is any advice you can give me to improve it, please let me know, I could use your expertise. Thank you below are some links on films he stars in.

Knights Of Badassdom [[3]] [[4]] One by One:Deaths Door (2010) [[5]] [[6]] The Hunchback (2010) [[7]] The Season (film) [[8]] [[9]] [[10]] Bloodlines (2007) [[11]] [[12]] Thanks! (Trekkieman (talk) 23:01, 16 June 2010 (UTC))

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Request for Assistance/Mentoring to Republish Article

Hi Michael,

In late December 2009, you helped me during a AfD discussion where an article was moved by an Admin to my workspace additional work: "It just needs a little bit more sourcing before putting it back in article space. I'm sure that when the film is finally released, that'll be easy. Michael can probably help out, he's got a good feel for these things."

Since that learning experience, the movie was released in the spring (both on and IndieFlix), had some screenings at festivals and a number of industry reviews.

I'd be honored and appreciative if you can provide additional guidance for editing, additions and the path to publishing back into the article space.

Here is the link the Admin created:


Action grrl (talk) 20:26, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

With your permission, I will go through the article in a few hours and make it everything it could possibly be. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:32, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your help have my permission. I appreciate your valuable time! Action grrl (talk) 21:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for cleaning up and working on the J.A. Steel article too! Action grrl (talk) 05:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
You're welcome. The Steel article does need more work... but it's an easily surmountable issue. I had to find a suitable place for the image I uploaded, as orphaned non-free images get tossed. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:11, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Michael, I will keep working...I appreciate your guidance and encouragement! Action grrl (talk) 14:08, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Nick Russell Fowler

Hello again, Michael. Wondered if you'd be interested to add to the AfD debate on Nick Russell Fowler, which has been going since May, and has been relisted twice. The discussion seems to get bogged down in labelling contributors as SPAs – even accusations of socking. I keep trying to persuade people to discuss whether the said Nick Russell Fowler is notable by Wikipedia's criteria or not.

The whole thing is complicated by the fact that you have to search on "Nick Fowler" to find stuff (there's a rename proposal on the article talk page), and the fact that too many of the contributors to the discussion are simply expressing their own opinions. Don't worry if you don't have time. Best wishes — Hebrides (talk) 08:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for asking me to look in, as the sheer number of WP:ILIKEIT SPAs have given the discussion a "black eye", as it were... so I ignored them, as likely will the closer, and simply did my own research on the individual and relevant guidelines before offering an opinion. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:31, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Michael. The discussion needed some proper unbiased policy-based input, and you are always magnificent at that. The outcome is ‘no consensus’ – I'm pleased that in the end the black eye didn't change the verdict. Thanks again — Hebrides (talk) 20:19, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Michael, thank you for your articulate and even-keeled comments regarding the AfD debate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 06:20, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

All just a matter of keeping a discussion focused on the issues and not being distracted onto tangents. Be well... Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:23, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Denizen movie poster.jpg


Thanks for uploading File:Denizen movie poster.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of "file" pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Image Screening Bot (talk) 03:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi bot! I understand. When the article curently in Incubation is moved to mainspace, the image will no longer be orphaned. I suppose I should have simply waited until that time... but can definitely keep the image from being orphaned. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Thank you have spent a lot of time on this...very appreciated...a most professional outcome! Action grrl (talk) 05:09, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I do what I can. As an actor myself, I take pride in saving what film and actor articles that I might. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:25, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
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Thank you for your work on Denizen (film) and J.A. Steel, helping me learn and grow on Wikipedia as a new editor, setting the example of mentoring and expert editing skills, and being a model of Diplomacy and Civility on all times and in all forums!! Action grrl (talk) 14:03, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Neato. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 17:05, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Chris Limahelu

Symbol question.svg Hello! Your submission of Chris Limahelu at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! ErinM (talk) 17:14, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

There's now further discussion. The article is currently only 3.14x expanded and needs to meet 5x to be approved. See the entry for details. ErinM (talk) 19:26, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi Michael, it's good to go, but see my suggested verbiage. I think the shorter the better for maximum hits. Crum375 (talk) 02:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Have responded there. My thanks to you both. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 03:09, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark L. Feinsod (2nd nomination)

Good compromise solution in that AfD. The article is now residing at User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Mark L. Feinsod- cheers! Courcelles (talk) 02:22, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks much. I'll dust of its cobwebs later tonight and see what I can do. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 02:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Spellfury Help

Hi MichaelQSchmidt, I'm new to Wikipedia and I'm getting extremely frustrated, I'm finding that the webseries is underrepresented on Wikipedia, I understand that it's a new medium but the wiki editors are unfairly comparing Hollywood to an online webseries. Also there's a kneejerk reaction to IMDB, (delete,delete,delete) without reading the rest of the wiki and seeing that Spellfury has been reviewed by[32], Ain't it Cool News[33] and Tubefilter[34] Spellfury the webseries (as of June 20th 2010) is the top rated show on the webseries directory [35] Youtube has given Spellfury it's own special showpage at[[13]], these can't be created by the public, "the guild" has also been given this honor, but notable webseries like "legend of neil" and "riese the series" don't have them. It allows The guild and Spellfury to come up in the listings of traditional television shows, Youtube has deemed Spellfury notable because of the strong viewership of the series and fanbase.

I'm finding the wiki editors are biased and make statements they don't have to back up, for instance, here's the last exchange: User Gtstricky: The article works. tubefilter and ain't it cool news will review anything if you email them and ask them. [[User:Gtstricky|

How does he know that "tubefilter" and "ain't it cool news" will review anything? He doesn't back that up with any facts. From my experience with those 2 websites, the reviewer will only review something he or she deems "notable". A webseries would give there eyeteeth for a review on either of those sites.

Anyways, I would love to talk about it with you, Cheers Showzampa (talk) 15:52, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


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DYK for Chris Limahelu

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DYK for Love (2008 Indonesian film)

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WP:FILMS June 2010 Newsletter

The June 2010 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. If you have an idea for improving the newsletter please leave a message on my talk page. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 05:35, 1 July 2010 (UTC)

Requst assistance with image discussion on free-use

Hi Michael,

I respectfully request your assistance with the discussion of fair-use for a movie poster:

I beleive this is a free-use image. The image is freely downloaded from the official website: It is specificaly in the "Downloads" section at The website is making it freely available. There are no posted restrictions of its use. The downloadable file is over 2MB. I reduced the size to 197KB to make it a low resolution image, and thus not suitable for the illegal production of counterfeit goods. Making a replacement that is not a derivative work would fail to convey the impression intended by the photographer, the subjects and the film production company, would tarnish or misrepresent this person's image, or would fail its purpose of identification or commentary. Any other image found would be sourced back to the copyright holder. This is the offical poster the owners offer for download.

Any help or advice is most appreciated.

Thanks, Action grrl (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

If I might butt in-- The only problem in this case appears to be that there is no article for the film yet. So, just start an article on the film The Gymnast (with adequate sourcing), add the poster into the infobox, remove the warning from the image description, and you should be fine. Happy editing! Dekkappai (talk) 14:41, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Dekkappai (talk), I always welcome assistance! :)
The image is being used here: I also started the article for the The Gymnast here and hope it can go to incubation soon: However, another editor removed the image from the article. I am still learning and trying to do what is correct. I thought I had followed the proper path and policies. Action grrl (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
No problem. Image use is pretty tricky around here. I don't think you'll be able to use a film poster image in the Dreya Weber article unless you have a section on the film, and can claim that the poster illustrates what is being discussed there. The article on the film looks like it's shaping up well. I don't know anything about the incubator, but I do work on my own articles in my work space. When I do, though, I leave the images out until I put the article on the mainpage, since "Fair use" images aren't allowed in user pages-- which, I guess, is the reason the other editor removed the image. If the image gets deleted, just re-upload it when you're going to put the film article on the mainpage, otherwise just remove the message when the article is ready, and you'll be fine. Happy to be of help. Dekkappai (talk) 15:21, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Dek is correct. Remember the image for Denizen? Same story. There was no proper free use rationale for its use until the article actually was in mainspace. Like Dek, I always wait until the article itself is "live" before adding an image. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 16:02, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Dek and Michael. I understand and appreciate your time to explain! :) Action grrl (talk) 16:14, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
Never a problem. Glad to help. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 16:16, 2 July 2010 (UTC)


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The Seven Minutes (film)

I'm leaving an identical message for all the parties involved in the edit war (Dekkapai, MichaelQSchmidt, Hullaballoo Wolfowitz) on this article advising them to take their disagreements on the notability of the nudity in the film to the talk page. All parties involved appear to have valid points so I'm not singling anyone out for possible WP:3RR violations. In the interim, I'm locking the page as is for 72 hours - hopefully by the time the block expires we might have some form of consensus. Remember, the question (as I understand it) is whether the nudity in this film was notable in and of itself. If it is not, then might the information about it be useful elsewhere - say in Nudity in film as expanded details about the 70s. Tabercil (talk) 12:23, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

Enda Oates

Go for it. As I said I think it just meets requirements, if you can find adequate sourcing this would be great. Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:02, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Alan Mruvka

Another editor is disputing some of the facts on the Alan Mruvka article. Since you wrote the vast majority of the existing article, can you please stop by talk page and review the comments? Thanks. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 18:17, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

It appears User:Mruvka is using POV to puff Alan's career, make him seem younger than cited sources indicate, add a weight to accomplishments and add statistics not supported by sources, and seperate Alan from sourced controversies such as the Marilyn Vance or Howard Stern lawsuits by his removing all cited infromation of that earlier partnership or financial relationsips. While we need be careful when dealing with BLPs, the information he removed was presented in a very neutral maner and was well-cited. His unwriting history does not make it go away. Your edits have been entirely consistent with the provided citations, and I congratulate you for maintaining the article's integrity. Your warning on the editor's talk page seemed to not have an effect. I will also leave a note there and suggest he bring his concerns to the article talk page. Thank you. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:19, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. If you have any comments regarding the E! article regarding the issues brought up by User:Pienza89, feel free to jump in. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:43, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
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You responded to my comments about several Alan Mruvka claims, and related that you wrote the article. I can tell you flat out that Alan Mruvka had nothing to do, at all, with producing programming at E! He had no background in production, did no production, had no operational responsibilities in programming, no credits. His claim of producing 20,000 hours of programming at Movietime/E! is extremely ridiculous and you will never find any source to such a claim. Think about it: Alan Mruvka left the network 22 months after it was launched, or about 15,000 hours after it was launched, and the network had lots of late night informercial programming and a tremendous amount of repeats. I estimate that after two years about thirty of us produced maybe a thousand hours total of programming, much of it talk. Furthermore, Mruvka did not raise $200 million for the network and you will find no source for this. He resigned (was removed) from the Board of Directors of Movietime in June, 1989, at which time the company was capitalized at about $20 million. He also did not launch the network, but that claim looks like it has been dropped. I would appreciate it if you would remove the un-sourced material from the Alan Mruvka bio, as it detracts from the hard work and creativity of a large number of people who did produce the programming at Movietime. Pienza89 (talk) 05:30, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

You may also have noticed that while I may have authored the article, I have not edited it in months. It does not belong to me and I have no control over other editors who have edited it since it went to mainspace. All I can advise is that if something is now in the article that is not supported by citations, that it be removed, or corrected to reflect the citations. And please do not remove comments from my talk page as you did with this recent edit. I have restored them above. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 06:39, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Testing the water

I shall be interest to see if this edit provokes any hullaballoo. Incidentally, this talk page could also do with archiving. My personal limit is to archive before it hits 65536 bytes but I don't always make it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 14:01, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Citing interviews off DVDs

Hi Michael. I've noticed you're pretty good at citation templates. I have a question: I've recently transcribed a series of interviews from directors included as extras on DVDs of their films. In citing the interview is it better to use the {{Template:Cite interview}} or {{Template:Cite video}}? Dekkappai (talk) 22:19, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

Personally, I suspect Cite Video is the one you'd want to use, as that's intended to point to a specific video. Tabercil (talk) 22:46, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks-- Do it as a citation to the Interview with so&so (Extra) on Such & Such DVD? Dekkappai (talk) 22:49, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm... Cite Video has a Time field. I'd try that to drop in the details. E.g., Time = Interview with So&so, and leave the title field to being the specific DVD. The problem is neither CV or CI is really intended to do what you're asking... and checking how it's handled elsewhere (e.g., Superman (film)) just leaves me cold... Tabercil (talk) 22:59, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, the problem is neither one really fits... I'm pretty careful about including timings before each interview question. What I'll probably do is use the template for the first cite-- Say,
  • Satō, Hisayasu; interviewed by Nakashima Yasushi. Survey Map of a Paradise Lost (DVD) (in Japanese [English subtitles]). ArtsMagic. Event occurs at 06:49. There was a story on the news that a member of staff at NTT had been exposed as an eavesdropper. And... I thought that it wasn't really suited to be a regular entertainment film so I decided to make it into a pink film by using the incident at NTT and I expanded the story into a complete fiction.  "
for the first cite, then, for later cites:
  • Satō; Event occurs at 07:32. "I'd always been interested in the subject of eavesdropping. I think there's a kind of thrill in secretly listening in to someone else's conversation using electronic waves. And if you take it a stage further it's like you're actually invading someone's mind, almost like telepathy."
Awkward, but doable... Dekkappai (talk) 23:25, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
Agreed. And apologies Michael for usurping the conversation... Tabercil (talk) 23:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
No problem. I enjoyed the discussion. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 01:29, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

An award

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Awarded to Michael for his outstanding research into the Enda Oates articles and not only proving notability and preventing it from deletion but in making it comprehensive as possible from wider research. Keep up the great work! Dr. Blofeld White cat 08:13, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

You're welcome! The only thing is that the career section still needs expansion and mentioning of TV/film work as you'd expect, like who Enda starred alongside etc. Dr. Blofeld White cat 08:20, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

It's on my list, and I'll do some more in the morning. Have a nice evening/morning. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

OK. I've added much about his TV and film work. The thing though is that he is primarily known as a theatre actor so it needs a lot more coverage of his theatrical work merged in with the tv and film discussion. I'd imagine googling the plays would bring up potential sources. It would be best to write about his theatrical career and performances as well as acclaim in the theatre section I think. Great job anyway. Dr. Blofeld White cat 09:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

WOW thanks!! I'm loving the ball!! I thought we could nominate the article for a joint DYK, if that is OK by you. I still have some minor things to add, but I'll wait until you've finished your inputs. The good thing is that the article is now much improved and not threatened for deletion any longer! Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:11, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Admittdedly, it took some looking to find something suitable for a fellow with 300,000+ live edits (chuckle). As for the joint DYK... its been done,[14] However, you are most welcome to suggest a better hook. I trust your judgement. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:16, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

That's fine! Shame we can't find a free photo for this guy though! Dr. Blofeld White cat 21:21, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps a screenshot from the series for which he has note? As the series is no longer existant, it may qualify as historical usage uner FUR? Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
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. . . this be a redlink? Bongomatic 08:31, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, all of these pages need work--seems like something you might be interested in:
Hope all's well. Bongomatic 02:57, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Enda Oates

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It's not really a problem here, but just a suggestion you may want to consider. Cheers, AngChenrui (talk) 13:08, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Vampires Suck

Michael, could you have a look at this talk page and see if you can do better for that hottie, AvdP? Thanks! Drmies (talk) 19:42, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clock Tower (film)

Hi Michael,

I saw your note at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clock Tower (film). Did you know you could boldly close it yourself? See WP:NACD. A non-admin closure for an AFD with no controversy should not be an issue as the nominator has withdrawn the nomination and there is no dissenting !votes. I'd do it myself, but I'm not an impartial party as I've expressed an opinion there. Cheers! -- Whpq (talk) 18:45, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Well... I've made it a personal policy to never close an AFD. But as this one is no longer required, and upon your observation and that of nominator and withdrawer, I'll close it. My first ever. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:48, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps I should have pointed you to Wikipedia:Deletion process. I've made a few adjustments. Cheers! -- Whpq (talk) 19:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the process cleanup. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:32, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Enda Oates

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I've said my piece in the AFD, and moved our discussion from my talk into my archive,

As there is only a day left to run (for the AfD), I think after that, I'm reasonably confident it will be closed keep and moved, per the suggestion.  Chzz  ►  13:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Struck through my previous vote at the AfD and now have voted to keep with needed re-directs, etc. Shearonink (talk) 14:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you both. Best, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 19:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Raven Riley notifications

Just an FYI, but you wish to change your notifications regarding Raven Riley to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Raven Riley (2nd nomination) instead of the first one. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 04:23, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Yikes. I used the template provided at WP:AFD. I'll look into making the fix. Thankyou. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:59, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

Merge discussion for Foot odor

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Thank you for the notice. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 05:44, 20 July 2010 (UTC)


In the AfD for Stephano_Barberis your !vote is being discussed at DrV [15]. Any clarification from you would be helpful. Hobit (talk) 17:43, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

  • Nice job! How the heck can you do so much so fast? I've mentioned it at DrV. Hobit (talk) 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
    Thanks. Kinda sorry I didn't address the issue more fully at the AFD itself. You note now that I have THREE decent in-depth articles about the man, as well as sourcing all of his wins and several of his nominations? No offense to the closer, but he erred too far on the side of caution. Biggest problem was in how that darn thing looked originally, as it turned folks off to the article before giving it a decent chance. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 04:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Richard Madden

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Inre Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2010 July 19#Stephano Barberis

I opined a "keep" at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stephano Barberis with the comment that that the article "needs cleanup for style and tone, and the addition of proper (and available) sourcing" as a surmountable issue... but had never stepped up and put actions to my words. So, since the DRV, I've been working the last couple days on a rewrite that would address concerns brought up at the AFD... in order to show that what I believed was possible, could in fact be done. Please compare THIS to my work at User:MichaelQSchmidt/workspace/Stephano Barberis and offer an opinion. And yes... I think the "Select videography" section will need massive trimming. Thank you, --Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 23:13, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for working on an article as opposed to the easy actions engaged in by other users of vigorous handwaving and saying that sources exist somewhere and someone will add them sometime. Stifle (talk) 08:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
It was a mission.... I even found the fellow's birth announcement in an archive in his hometown public library. I wish I had done this sooner, and perhaps the deletion and DRV would not have happened. Thanks, Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 08:11, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Max Grodénchik

Hello Michael. In February you added a citation to a book from the "Webster's Quotations" series published by Icon Group International to this article. Unfortunately, Icon Group International is not a reliable source - their books are computer-generated, with most of the text copied from Wikipedia (most entries have [WP] by them to indicate this). I'm removing a lot of similar references; many other editors have also been deceived by these sources. Another publisher that reuses Wikipedia articles is Alphascript Publishing. Fences&Windows 22:23, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

I'l look for other sources. Max has definitely gotten around. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 22:25, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Madden

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John H. Foote

Oh film bio source master!!! I was wondering if you could help clean up this article and find some sources. I think he is notable but the article in its current state gives a different impression. Dr. Blofeld White cat 13:07, 25 July 2010 (UTC) WOW!! Tis looking much better already! Dr. Blofeld White cat 10:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Your point about editor's perception when seeing a badly written page is well made. The recent Stephano Barberis AFD and DRV is an example. The orginal article was put together poorly and was full of hyperbole... plenty of sources were availble but the article did not receive proper attention during its AFD. So, during the course of the DRV, I made a version prettier in a workspace and my version is what was restored with blessings from all to mainspace. Gives on a good feeling. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 15:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Morton Schwartz

Hi MQS!,

We are having problems finding sourcing for actor Morton Schwartz. See Wikipedia talk:Unreferenced BLP Rescue#Can Morton be saved?. I've already had a go at it and came up empty. I was womdering if you might be aware of any sources? Thanks. -- Whpq (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

MQS, we determined its a hoax, but still check it out, you'll probably have a good chuckle at some of the vids these guys made.[16]--Milowenttalkblp-r 18:06, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Yup... hoax article, as none of the films seem to exist. And if any were "cult" or "successful" as asserted, there would be something somewhere. As it at least makes assertions, it might best go to AFD, though it might qualify for a BLP speedy as unsourcable. Long and short... even were the titles to be horibly mis-translated, there would be something somewhere... but there is not. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 18:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your input Michael -- Whpq (talk) 18:12, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Race 2(2011 film)

It's a curious coincidence that I encountered this on one of my fairly rare visits to the AfD list, when I did the incubation of the earlier version. I have changed my mind from my first close: the new one is significantly better referenced than the earlier version, so I have put it in the incubator and done a history merge so that everybody's credits are maintained. The incubator is a good idea, but parallel versions of incubated articles are a pain. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 21:40, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Interestingly enough, I was going to suggest you replace the poorer incubated version with the better one. Good looking out. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:43, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

The Avengers film project

Would just like to state that you have brought up some good points in the AfD so much so that I withdrew my call for redirection. Although it is not what I originally intended as the author of sandbox I also appreciate your help in turning it into something that can stand alone.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 21:36, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

I had noticed the strike-through of your redirection !vote. I feel that after all my arguments toward "what" could be done, I should spend some time and actually DO it (chuckle). If the film is never made, we now have an article on a project's historical progess supported by a great number of sources. If the film is made, a few tweaks and a renaming bring it back to status as an article "about" a film. You did some very nice work... but just used a style format that was worrisome for some. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 21:43, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the barnstar, I was going to wait to give this to you but even if the article doesnt pass the AfD, your efforts are still deserving.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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For rescuing The Avengers film project from deletion and turning it into a stand alone article of note.--TriiipleThreat (talk) 20:21, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. I appreciate the hard work that so many, many others put into the article, and simply wished it to have its best chance to serve the project. Schmidt, MICHAEL Q. 20:56, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

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