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WikiProject Lincolnshire (Rated Project-class)
WikiProject iconThis page is within the scope of WikiProject Lincolnshire, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Lincolnshire on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.
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Starting up[edit]

Project active, started adding WP Lincolnshire banner to relevant articles. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 20:43, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Missing geographical coordinates[edit]

Many Lincolnshire articles are missing geographical coordinates. Finding the latitude and longitude of locations, and entering coordinates into articles is straightforwards, and explained at Wikipedia:Geocoding how-to for WikiProject members. Having coordinates on articles mean that they turn up in GoogleMaps, MultiMap and other such places which link to wikipedia based on geo-coordinates.

It is now possible to get lists of Lincolnshire articles that have no geographical coordinates via Wikipedia:CatScan, for example:

Alternatively, if CatScan is down or very slow, you can find them by looking through Category:United Kingdom articles missing geocoordinate data.

The articles in the lists above are currently marked with {{coord missing}} templates, which need replacing with filled in {{coord}} templates containing their latitude/longitude data (or else have lat&long entered into the infobox).

There are about 312 articles missing coords - I hope you'll consider adding coordinates so as to make Lincolnshire articles more visible on the web. thanks --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:08, 21 October 2008 (UTC)

Just so you have an up-to-date score: 51 articles in the newly created Category:Lincolnshire articles missing geocoordinate data --Tagishsimon (talk) 20:23, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
And there are 48 of them 4 years later! I wonder what the score was in 2008? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 15:36, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Articles prodded[edit]

Just noticed the following articles have been prodded if anyone is interested in them. Jubilee Park (Woodhall Spa), Kirkstead Bridge and The Sewer Keith D (talk) 11:26, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Keith, 1st 2 Ive added the differences to Woodall Spa article they can go as 3 line stubs, The sewer could probably merge with river witham but I'm not familiar with it and it was part of a series of river articles by the looks. But generally 3 line stubs are better in the article that is going to link to them anyway and just have a redirect till they grow to a edit box / 1/2 page size & have an Ibox and refs etc. - BulldozerD11 (talk) 01:01, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

List of windmills in Lincolnshire[edit]

List created today, Needs more photographs, particularly surviving mills or those with some remains left. Mjroots (talk) 14:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

South Forty-Foot Drain nomination for GA status[edit]

I am thinking of nominating this article for GA status. Any comments or suggestions gratefully received. Bob1960evens (talk) 11:58, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

I have just added a couple of dab links, may be worth checking other links to make sure they go to articles rather than dab pages. The edit links are bunching - have a look at WP:BUNCH and see if there is a suitable way to sort out the problem. The lead may also need a bit of beefing up for a GA have a look at WP:LEAD. Apart from that looks in good shape for a nomination. Keith D (talk) 13:21, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Article alerts[edit]

Article alerts are now available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Article alerts. ArticleAlertbot takes care of the updates which are done on a daily basis. Currently there are no alerts for the project but as more articles that are tagged then it will enable people to keep an eye on deletions, prods, GA, FA, PR and DYK actions on the projects articles. Keith D (talk) 13:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)

For more information see this signpost article. Keith D (talk) 23:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
Just a suggestion, but it usually is better to give a link to the alerts from the project's mainpage, or to use a parameters other than display=none. See WP:AAlerts#Subscribing for details.Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:01, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Thanks I had forgotten to add link following bot run. Keith D (talk) 13:30, 4 March 2009 (UTC)


Could someone take a quick look? I'm out of my element, but this article was created by an account whose every other edit was vandalism, and whom I've now blocked indef. I don't know if this is a hoax or not; I suspect it is, but I assume you folks would know better. I suppose I could AFD it, but I'd rather just ask you. --barneca (talk) 22:08, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, to be clear, I don't doubt it exists, I just question all of the unsourced information, and suspect at least some of it is a hoax. --barneca (talk) 22:10, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
The map location is in Ropsley so may be it is a part of that area but as far as I can see from my gazetteer Keisby or Keasby is near Lenton and should be at TF0328. I added the district from the infobox to lead sentence but now looks suspect. May be the article as it stands is a mix-up of locations as well as some hoax information. Keith D (talk) 23:23, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
On further investigation, I appear to have stumbled onto a Grantham/Ropsley-focused vandalism ring. This was created by one blocked vandal, and the infobox was added by one of his sockpuppets. Based on their combined history, your finding some of their errors, the fact that it's completely unsourced, and your gut feeling confirming my gut feeling that it's hoaxy, I'm just going to delete it, rather than waste peoples' time at AFD. If it's notable, eventually someone who knows something about it can recreate it from scratch, rather than tracking down what's true and what's a lie, and if anyone disagrees with my bending of the rules, I'll happily restore it an nominate for AFD instead. --barneca (talk) 21:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks, it can always be recreated for the right place when someone gets round to it. AFD would have been a waste of time for this. Keith D (talk) 22:38, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: St. George's College of Technology[edit]

You have placed a banner on the discussion for the above article, requesting for it to be part of the WikiProject Lincolnsire. I personally believe that this will help the article and hopefully help to improve both it's content and status so, as a user who has edited the article on several occasions, I think that, for the benefit of the article, it should be a part of the said WikiProject. I therefor open this discussion. 95jb14 (talk) 20:47, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

Coordinators' working group[edit]

Hi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators.

All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:51, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


As there are a couple of significant anniversaries this year for Lincolnshire related articles it may be a good opportunity for bringing them up to at least GA status. St Botolph's Church, Boston is celebrating its 700 anniversary and the 200th birthday of Alfred, Lord Tennyson is been remembered. Any takers? Keith D (talk) 13:33, 6 March 2009 (UTC)

Well, I'll take you up on it and see what I can do with Alfred, Lord Tennyson at least. He for one should be to GA status with being a Lincolnshire personality and one of our great names in literature. --BSTemple (talk) 16:32, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Article alerts[edit]

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If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the display=none parameter, but forget to give a link to their alert page. Your alert page should be located at "Wikipedia:PROJECT-OR-TASKFORCE-HOMEPAGE/Article alerts". Questions and feedback should be left at Wikipedia talk:Article alerts.

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Thanks. — Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:21, 15 March, 2009 (UTC)

Barnstar award[edit]

I have decided to design a barnstar for the wikiproject, If anyone has a comment, it would be much appreciated.

Wikiproject Lincolnshire Barnstar 1.jpg

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 95jb14 (talkcontribs) 16:16, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

  • A good idea and I for one would welcome anything that helps to mould the WikiProject Lincolnshire Members together and give recognition to exceptional members. A worthy recipient would be Keith D for his work, especially against vandalism of WikiProject Lincolnshire articles. --BSTemple (talk) 16:41, 27 March 2009 (UTC)

Project page layout[edit]

Now the project has a few active participants, I'd like to start a discussion on an update of the project page. I left it as it was when I restarted the inactive project last year (2008) but I'm not sure the huge info box on the RHS is totally appropriate but was originally reluctant to remove it, as some sort of replacement is needed to convey some of the info contained in it, but was unsure how to cut it down to size. So any suggestions for a MK II project page format are welcome.

  • Has any body seen another project page layout they feel is better ?
  • Any extra important info you feel is missing from the page ?. - Suggestions please - BulldozerD11 (talk) 17:15, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
May be we could create a sidebar of links rather than have the Lincolnshire infobox there, similar to the Greater Manchester or Yorkshire ones. Keith D (talk) 18:07, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I’ll try to give some comments and help where I can. Areas to look at are the History points and Geographic points … villages, towns, cities etc, then important landmarks, places of attraction etc. People, personalities that are Lincolnshire connected and more importantly born in the county also very important. I've started the Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Lincolnshire People, but a lot more work is needed.
A useful section I use often is the “Monitoring articles”, especially the recent changes list, which I do patrol. Ease of navigation for project editors is the key. --BSTemple (talk) 18:14, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
I agree but I think that the WikiProject is just not as large as the Yorkshire and Greater Manchester WikiProjects. It has less than 10 members and It takes alot of work and time to create a sidebar. 95jb14 (talk) 17:48, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
I think their is some merit in Keith's suggestion as its neater and aids navigation to some project related items. What I dident want to do was just remove the existing I box, as the page needs a bit of a tidy up all round as items have been added ad hock, and to just rewrite without consultation would not be collaborating. Does any body think anything should go from the current page as not relevant or should it all be incorporated in anew one ? We can build a draft new page behind the current on using a copy of another projects page as an outline ? Its not an instant this minute thing just a new look for spring - BulldozerD11 (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
If you want to change the layout then I would create a new version in a sandbox somewhere and then let us know when you are ready for others to view. It does need a revamp but I would probably go for one of the simpler designs rather than the complicated ones with tabs and multiple sub-pages at the moment. As has already been said there is only limited manpower to maintain the project information. Keith D (talk) 13:35, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Local chapter for the Wikimedia Foundation[edit]

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I have just thought of an idea that could help to improve this WikiProject, it may seem at first to be slightly odd but just bear with me. I have looked at the counties in the East Midlands and Compared them to the amount of those counties with WikiProjects, they are Lincolnshire, Nottinghamshire and Derbyshire. We all share a common purpose, that is to work on the articles of our county's which includes local history, geography and biographies.

Therefore to help us share methods of research and many other needs (basically 'constructive collaboration' as I call it) I am proposing that we form an alliance, NOT a Merger. I believe an alliance allows us to be independent just as before but in collaboration as well. This could really benefit our WikiProject and I feel we might be the first in Wikipedia's history. I haven't spoken to the other WPs mentioned yet, because I want to make ure that it is fully discussed here. 95jb14 (talk) 16:47, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

That is a very good idea and I’m for it. An alliance would only make us stronger in so much as pooling together our respective talents. Let’s face it, we can’t do articles everywhere in the Wikipedia, but if we concentrate on key areas, 'constructive collaboration', we can strengthen these articles.--BSTemple (talk) 17:00, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
This sounds like a Good IdeaTM and I'd like to see it work. Pooling resources and experience should benefit everyone. Something to that effect is being discussed over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject England#Stop the 'break-up' of England! (the title is misleading, the consensus is against merging existing county projects into large regional projects such as WP:South West England and supports better communication between projects and the sharing of experience and resources). Editors from projects such as Greater Manchester, London, and Yorkshire have mentioned interest in helping some of the less experienced projects with developing articles. I think those three projects alone have about 85 FA/FLs and 120 GAs between them, so there's a wealth of untapped experience.
I left a note on WT:NOTTS asking if they'd be interested in an experiment where they select an article or two to improve and one or more experienced editors from other projects helps them with stuff like MOS, what is a good source of information, any existing guidelines, and examples of what has been successful before. So far there's been no response though.
Feel free to voice your opinion on the subject over at the England wikiproject, even if you think it's a rubbish idea we want to know. Nev1 (talk) 17:52, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
I underatand what you mean and I have raised the proposal on WP England's page now but we donot want help like this from other WPs, we would like to form an alliance between WPs which would be different. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95jb14 (talkcontribs) 18:51, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Fair enough, so far the response has been lukewarm. We can't offer knowledge specialised to Lincolnshire, but we do have experience with sourcing, formatting, Good and Featured Articles, and a range of topics but especially settlements so if anyone is ever looking for some outside opinions feel free to drop by WT:UKGEO or the WikiProject England talk page.
Just to clarify, the county projects do a good job, and only one voice had suggested merging them. This will not happen as consensus is so heavily against it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I hope the alliance works, there's an informal thing going on between WP:GM, WP:CHES, and WP:MERSEY but it's not very active, and this kind of formal alliance could be a good way forwards. Nev1 (talk) 19:00, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Thank you very much, we will always know that there is assistance from you lot if a problem arises and good luck with the WPs you're working with, you have been a help.

95jb14 (talk) 19:06, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Diocese of Lincoln Article[edit]

I have been trying to give all of the unassessed articles a rating and when I came to this one I was very disappointed. As a High importance article it is only just fit for a Start. Is there nothing that we can do to alert another group etc.?

95jb14 (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You could try the other project who has the page tagged Wikipedia:WikiProject Middle Ages. I would also think that it should come under Wikipedia:WikiProject Anglicanism so may be a note over there may get some responce. Keith D (talk) 17:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for the Advice, Kieth D. 95jb14 (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


I have just rated all of the 76 ???/??? articles that we had in the unassessed section.It has taken me a few days but I am quite pleased with what I have done, It suprised the high importance of some of the articles but oh well, it's done. Thought I should let you all know. 95jb14 (talk) 14:22, 14 June 2009 (UTC).

Curious about the list of 4 GA rated pages listed at - if you click on the GA link in the table you get a list of four talk pages, and the one I looked at consisted of nothing but banners. Is that an artifact of Wikipedia, or something else? Brunnian (talk) 20:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, I think it's because the link you clicked on was to the article talk page rather than the article itself. Talk pages are used to discuss improvements and changes to the article and the inclusion of banners allows WikiProjects to keep track of the number of articles within its scope. If you want to see the article, just click on the tab with "article" written on it at the top-left hand corner of your screen (just to the right of the Wikipedia log). Nev1 (talk) 20:15, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

Importance Assessments[edit]

I don't man to complain but, I am an active assessor for this WP (I don't know whether that is a word) and I keep finding articles that have no importance rating. I am not sure why this is but could we please try to give them importance ratings. 95jb14 (talk) 11:33, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I hold my hand up here as I am tagging articles at the moment but unsure of the importance rating criteria that has been applied by the project. I could assess the same as the ones I have for the Yorkshire project but they may not fit the bill. Keith D (talk) 12:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
I appreciate that, If there are any serious queries then leave it or contact me bbut I tend to find if you haven't heard of the article and it isn't very large then give it a Low. 95jb14 (talk) 12:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC).
I just commented on this at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lincolnshire/Assessment#Assessment_Requests - according to the scale villages should be 'mid' but lots of them are getting tagged 'low'. The scale at Wikipedia:WikiProject UK geography/Assessment is different: it differentiates by size of settlement. I don't think it fits Lincolnshire, so that's probably where the Lincolnshire scale came from.--Brunnian (talk) 09:55, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
The Lincolnshire scale is the basic one that is used by most projects as a starting point, UK Geo have modified it for their purposes. See my comments at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lincolnshire/Assessment#Assessment_Requests where I note what we have done on the Yorkshire project but we have not followed what is now on our assessment page. We attempted to modify it but did not really achieve something usable. Normally a few experienced users in the projects do the assessing and grade things relative to each other rather than follow what is written down. Keith D (talk) 12:29, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

Page design[edit]

I have completed a design for our home page, it is only a prototype so all coments are welcome. Feel free to take a look. If it is liked then maybe we can apply it to the page and eventually the entire WikiProject. It can be found on my Page six: WP Lincolnshire sandbox. 95jb14 (talk) 12:24, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, but I prefer a white page as we have now. It's easier on the eyes. --BSTemple (talk) 12:28, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I like the idea of redesigning the project page to make it stand out, and I like the suggestion although as BSTemple points out it may not be accessible to everyone. At the moment, most county projects have fairly bland and uninteresting pages and may put people off (only may though, as I have no evidence to back this up it's only a theory; plus it would apply to people familiar with WikiProjects rather than the average Wikipedia reader as most are unaware that they exist). Using the colours used in the county flag is a nice idea to make it feel more customised, but there is then the snag of readability. Yellow/gold on red isn't the easiest to read, and some Wikipedia users are red-green colour blind (although as the green is used only as decoration I don't think this is an issue).
What may work is putting all the text into boxes with a pale background against which the text would stand out against; perhaps a very pale red background and dark blue text? Nev1 (talk) 12:44, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I would probably agree with Nev1 that something needs to be done to make the project page stand out among the crowd. The colours in the sandbox version do not work for me, the blue on the dark red background are almost unreadable. May be try Nev1 suggestion of a pale red, I know the dark red is on the Lincolnshire flag but we have to aim for usability. Keith D (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Pastel light colours would be better, but pale red is then close to pink. May I suggest pale blue, green or yellow with bold red borders, or similar? The problem we have, is when you look at bold backgrounds (i.e. white or gold on black) then move onto the other wikipages, your eyes have a hard time adjusting, or at least mine do.--BSTemple (talk) 21:13, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
I have taken on board what has been said and I feel I have changed it enough and am done working on it. To me everything looks fine: all the links, writing and images etc. are visible. The page still incorporates the colours and there is no problem with colour blindness (and I do know alot about colourblindness - my brother cannot differentiate blue/purple, red/green, silver/metallic green and green/brown.) I would like feedback still, feel free to take alook here. Maybe some form of vote if all goes to plan. 95jb14 (talk) 15:08, 17 August 2009 (UTC).
Much better and readable now. A minor point - it may be worth bolding the FA & GA articles so they stand out a bit from the introductory text, otherwise thumbs up. Keith D (talk) 17:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I agree, it's better and easier on the eyes.--BSTemple (talk) 19:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Popular pages[edit]

A tool is available for gathering statistics for the number of hits for the projects pages. An example output for the Yorkshire project is here. There is not yet a full months statistics available for the project but it is interesting to see usage of the information. Do members think that this would be useful information to have collected, may help in focusing on the most visited pages? 09:58, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

The static page produced each month can be seen for the Yorkshire project here. Is there any interest? Keith D (talk) 21:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
Yes I agree, it would show us which pages are being looked at the most, thus giving us an idea of priority. All pages in the project need to be worked on and maintained, as well as new pages created, but a guide to help members focus is a good thing.--BSTemple (talk) 22:49, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
I was surprised by the top article on the Yorkshire list which is Arctic Monkeys followed by Wuthering Heights, certainly not ones I would have even considered. Keith D (talk) 23:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
So was I, that's why I said as a guide in case the Lincolnshire statistics produce odd results which show articles no one fancies working on. We mustn't also neglect our smaller or less popular articles that are also important to the project, because after all the Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia that is about knowledge and information, and not just popularity or celebrities. The article today with the least hits could be the most tomorrow if an event happens that puts it into the spotlight.--BSTemple (talk) 08:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
I have put request to start recording data in the queue (request 8jmah73). It will probably be November or December before we get the first page of monthly results. Keith D (talk) 22:55, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
I look forward to seeing it, as it will be interesting to see the results, especially after seeing the Yorkshire Monkeys. Maybe we’ll have Gorillas? Face-wink.svg--BSTemple (talk) 17:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
Looks like a good idea, quite interesting. I hadn't even noticed this section was here until just now. I took a look around the website and I must say even some GA's (like Leeds Architecture) end up below Start class articles! If only people edited like they viewed!! 95jb14 (talk) 17:04, 11 October 2009 (UTC).
Stats have just started being gathered - in pole position at the moment is Isaac Newton followed by Margaret Thatcher. Keith D (talk) 16:37, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Well that's certainly better than Arctic Monkeys! --BSTemple (talk) 18:39, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
Yes, I was just about to add a message about this. It's looking good! 2:-)

Tagging articles[edit]

Hi, I think that I have now tagged all of the Lincolnshire related articles apart from biographical type articles. I just wanted to know the view of members on biographical articles with regard to tagging for the project. At the moment I have tagged very few of these articles and the time has come to define the scope of what we cover. We could go down several routes here - from only tagging those who were born in Lincolnshire to the other extreme of tagging everyone who have had a connection to Lincolnshire, including all of those who have lived in the area or played for one of the many sports teams that we have in the area. On the other hand we could only tag those that are prominent Lincolnshire people (we would have to define this). Has anyone got any views on which approach to take?

Tagging everyone connected to Lincolnshire can get out of hand and where do you stop? I feel those that are born in Lincolnshire is the best route (it's also the easiest). Special mention could also go to those that have promoted Lincolnshire or connected to the county in some way. For example someone famous moves to Lincolnshire to live and goes on to write about the county and its beauty etc.--BSTemple (talk) 14:54, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Kings Mill, Stamford[edit]

There is a deletion discussion on Kings Mill, Stamford here if anyone is interested. Keith D (talk) 17:27, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

Project watchlist[edit]

Hi, just to let you know that the project watchlist is out of date as I am unable to generate a new one since the changes to software last week. The script is giving errors trying to get the list of tagged articles. Hopefully I can get it resolved quickly but will have to wait on expertise of others. I will let you know when we are back up to date. Keith D (talk) 11:08, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Watchlist is back-up to date following changes to configuration. I managed to work out what to do from the scraps on WP:VPT. Keith D (talk) 11:32, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

Layout Again[edit]

Is it worth me cahnging the layout to my design we discussed earlier in the year or not? Because I would like to do something with it now. 95jb14 (talk) 17:40, 24 September 2009 (UTC).

I would go for it. If you are interested I created a side-bar along similar lines to the Manchester & Yorkshire ones it is in my sandbox. Keith D (talk) 20:11, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
It's a good design, we should it on the page. 95jb14 (talk) 14:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC).
May be you could implement your changes to the project page and use the side bar in place of the Lincolnshire infobox, though it may need a boarder adding so you can see it easier. Keith D (talk) 19:21, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
It seems to mess up the rest of the page, though, it mignt need looking into, if you want you can experiment on User:95jb14/sandbox 5. 95jb14 (talk) 16:25, 4 October 2009 (UTC).
I have tweaked it and floated right so does not appear to mess-up the formatting now. If you do not like it on the project page then revert out. I have moved the sidebar to Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Sidebar for anyone to pick-up and use. Keith D (talk) 18:47, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
Excellent, looks great. 95jb14 (talk) 10:12, 6 October 2009 (UTC).


Should we have a Did You Know section on the project page so we can list facts from articles used on the main page? Keith D (talk) 20:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

If they have a significance to Lincolnshire, then why not?--BSTemple (talk) 22:55, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I was thinking of articles tagged for the project having a DYK entry. Keith D (talk) 23:44, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that most of the others now do, I think it's worth doing. When I created WikiProject Latin, I included DYKs. 95jb14 (talk) 11:03, 10 October 2009 (UTC).

Pageview stats[edit]

After a recent request, I added WikiProject Lincolnshire to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Popular pages.

The page will be updated monthly with new data. The edits aren't marked as bot edits, so they will show up in watchlists. You can view more results, request a new project be added to the list, or request a configuration change for this project using the toolserver tool. If you have any comments or suggestions, please let me know. Thanks! Mr.Z-man 00:45, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

Requested move of Lincoln[edit]

Just to let the appropriate WikiProject know there is currently a requested move discussion at Talk:Lincoln#Requested move to move Lincoln to Lincoln (disambiguation), comments from all are welcome. Jeni (talk) 17:56, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

This is not the appropriate WikiProject. The appropriate WikiProject is WikiProject Disambiguation Purplebackpack89 (talk) 21:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you'll find kind sir, that given that Lincoln is within the scope of this WikiProject, it is perfectly appropriate. Jeni (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
To mediate, whilst the Disambiguation WikiProject is the appropriate WP, we are equally as appropriate because Lincoln is one of our most important articles. 95jb14 (talk) 12:14, 4 January 2010 (UTC).
You got your Lincolns mixed up. Currently Lincoln is a disambiguation page that links to a bunch of pages, including Lincoln, Lincolnshire but also lots of articles that have nothing to do with Lincolnshire Purplebackpackonthetrail (talk) 21:15, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
I think you need to AGF there, 95jb14 acknowledges that the disambig project is there, and so is probably aware that the Lincoln page is a disambig page. Jeni (talk) 21:23, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
To clarify, WP:Lincolnshire covers the article Lincoln (Lincolnshire) in it's scope but as it has already been stated the article in question is a disambiguation page. The page contains Lincoln (Lincolnshire) so it is worthwhile us being notified to monitor the progress. The disambig page is also tagged as a WP:Lincolnshire Disambig article of High Importance, thus making it an important article in relation to our WP. Equally it is tagged by WP:Biography (in respect to Abraham Lincoln) and WP:Disambiguation so all three parties should be informed as well as any significant contributors, like in any such move or deletion case. 95jb14 (talk) 20:50, 5 January 2010 (UTC).
The discussion on the Lincoln talk page regarding the WikiProject tag has now closed, it was going around in circles with one editor crying wolf and everyone else getting annoyed. The move discussion remains open. Jeni (talk) 20:57, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

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Yes I have to agree, articles must have some sort of reference, though with a heavy heart I know this would affect some of our articles that are lacking references (I’m thinking of our villages etc) and I try to include references in articles when I can, like I did in the Navenby article. I generally do this for all information that I include into an article. In regard to people, yes there has to be at least a reference of some sort, and in this my reasons are naturally getting facts correct, but also to combat vandalism where facts etc are deliberately altered and we really need a reference to confirm them. A list of the biographies needing references would be a good thing.--BSTemple (talk) 17:56, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
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The bot searched the wrong category in its first run, I fixed this, so in a couple of hours it should search Category:WikiProject_Lincolnshire_articles and provide a list. Okip 06:28, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Good to see that we have no unreferenced BLP articles! My guess is because we have only tagged a few high profile people who you would expect have some references on their articles. We need to select which categories to tag for the project, I did bring it up above, last year, but only got a responce by BSTemple to narrow it to people born in Lincolnshire or prominent in history of Lincolnshire. When we have a list of categories that we think are relevant then we can tag them. Keith D (talk) 14:36, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I’ve just checked it and put a link on my user page. I’m in favour of narrowing it to people born in Lincolnshire or prominent in the history of Lincolnshire. Thank you Okip for providing a useful tool, which has at least shown we have no unreferenced BLP articles.--BSTemple (talk) 20:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
I have added a link on to the project sidebar for those using that to have a quick link to the page. Keith D (talk) 21:12, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
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I have just started the framework for a Lincolnshire Portal and would like some input from members as to which articles and images to feature. If you know of any good images or panoramas of the county then let me know so I can create that section. At the moment everything is red-linked and just needs some work on it. Keith D (talk) 11:01, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

Nocton Dairies[edit]

Hello. There's some discussion going on about Nocton Dairies that you might be interested in. Chris (talk) 15:21, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

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Ormulum's FAR[edit]

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If anyone knows Barnetby railway station can they answer image query on Talk:Barnetby railway station. Keith D (talk) 13:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

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Their is a link on our page to discuss linking with you. I am the author online for the Lincolnshire Bombers Roller Girls, Based in Lincoln. let me know what you need to add to your site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Diss-Continued (talkcontribs) 22:12, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

Not quite sure what you mean. The article is tagged as part of this project as it is Lincolnshire related. Keith D (talk) 22:57, 24 November 2010 (UTC)

River Glen, Lincolnshire article[edit]

I am working on improving the River Glen article, but there is a section on naming, which I have tagged with an Unreferenced tag, and two paragraphs at the start of the History section, which again are unreferenced. Both cover subject matter over which I have no idea where to look to find refs, so wondered if anyone else had ideas where I might find some. Thanks to anyone who might. Bob1960evens (talk) 12:56, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Article for South Somercotes?[edit]

I note a couple redlinks to South Somercotes in Lincolnshire. I don't know much about the area, but is this a place significant enough to merit an article? I ask too since John Hunsley, last known player of the Lincolnshire bagpipes lived there, so wanted to add that to the town article if one is created. MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:34, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

As it is a civil parish then I would expect an article to be created on it at some point, as generally all civil parishes are notable. Keith D (talk) 12:14, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
 Done I've created a page, and slotted in the piper, but Matthew will have to go and insert a citation for him, as I've marked it CN. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 13:40, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
This is awkward, but apparently I confused locales: Hunsley lived in Manton, Linolnshire, while a modern pipemaker who re-created the Lincolnshire pipes in the 1990s was the own who lived in South Somercotes. I've wikilinked South Somercotes on the pipes page, and removed my mistaken mention of Hunsley from the Somercotes page. Sorry for the confusion, but glad that another civil parish has been added to your product. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:33, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
The South Somercotes article is largely about the church, but there is a more extensive article St Peter's Church, South Somercotes. Candidates for a merger? BTW, does anyone know for sure what "greenstone" is? See Talk:St Peter's Church, South Somercotes.TSRL (talk) 12:20, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
I wrote the new article, and used the pastscape entry as a good, verifiable, source of data. Since the general rule is that civil parishes are notable enough to have their own entries, I suspect that it would be more consistent to leave the rest of the entry as a stub and move whatever was useful to the entry for the redundant church, then make a wikilink to it. There are a few other readily-accessible historic facts about medieval and prehistoric sites to provide a line or two of history. Since the article for North Somercotes could do with a significant re-write, It would be nice if we could involve someone local to do both.
I am not a real geologist, but I am fairly sure that there is no proper Greenstone in Europe. Greenstone is a sort of catch-all name for metamorphosed igneous rocks, highly mineralised, used for stone-age carvings and artifacts. But there are the upper and lower Greensand deposits in chalky areas, and although normally associated with the south coast, there are deposits in Cambridgeshire/Peterborough and in the so-called "Spilsby Sandstones" of the Weald. St James church is built of green sandstone, and there are other churches, Willoughby and Horncastle, for example, built of this where it is called "greenstone". Have a look at this BGS map mash-up and zoom in on the pink 'handprint' around South Ormsby, for example. I think that 'Greenstone' is a local name, or sloppy church guidebook writing, for Greensand. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 14:24, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Great North Road[edit]

Proposing a split from A1 road (Great Britain). See Talk:A1 road (Great Britain)#Great North Road (Split?). Simply south...... 19:09, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

do we care?[edit]

I notice that Horace Henshall is unassessed for the Lincolnshire project. I went and looked, and it is about football, so nothing I can help with. Reading the article the chap only lived in Lincoln for 3 years and achieved nothing of any lasting value in that time. Do we really need this article in the project at all? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 11:07, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Lincoln City manager is only claim to link with Lincolnshire. I started discussion above, some time back, about who we should tag and only got 1 response. Going on that response no we should not have him tagged. Biographies are always a problem to determine what to tag and not to tag, especially if you try it automatically by just looking at the categories the people are in. Keith D (talk) 13:01, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
OK, zapped Jackie Hutton James Montgomerie and Horace Henshall. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:16, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

On a similar basis what about articles like 2007–08 Grimsby Town F.C. season? I can understand having Grimsby Town F.C. in the project, but the individual season pages seem a bit over-specialist. If we do need them, perhaps the person creating them could always enter the same assesment? I've been assesing them |class=list because some have already been done like that. Is that correct? And why are the season articles not linked to, or even hinted at, on the club page? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:45, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Most season articles are not really list articles as they contain text describing the season, so I assess them as normal articles. Personally I cannot see how you can be interested in the top level article without the sub-articles on the season so I would assume that all projects interested in the club article should be interested in all of the season, stats etc articles that are below the club article. The club page should have a link to the current season in the infobox and an entry in the club template for the list of seasons list that should point out to the individual season articles. Keith D (talk) 21:58, 31 January 2011 (UTC)


I've created the missing list of templates, and added a new one {{Lincolnshire-railstation-stub}} --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 05:48, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Already got 41 members of Category:Lincolnshire railway station stubs. Further contributions gratefully received. done some article assessing along the way too. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

There are articles like Heritage Trust of Lincolnshire and Theatre Royal, Lincoln which are stubs, but we don't have a template/category for cultural stubs. Do we need one? (I put the structure stub on on the theatre, but it didn't seem right) --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:23, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
I just spotted the rail station stub and queried it, as all new stubs are supposed to be proposed first at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. Keith D (talk) 14:54, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Sorry if I trod on any toes, it didn't seem controversial. Why are stub categories controlled if e.g. Buildings and structures are not?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 17:59, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Not sure but all stubs are controlled in this way. I guess as it is the project that is doing the work. Keith D (talk) 20:01, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
Well, I had been planning to build a list and take some railway histories to Russia with me this year, and try to beat them all up. But not if its going to cause trouble., I might do something else with my evenings.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't look too bad, propose a stub and if nobody objects in five days you can create it. I think what you're proposing is a good idea ... don't let the system drag you down ;-) DancingGerbil (talk) 11:23, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Not a case of if you trod on any toes, more a case not to have stubbed your toe. Excuse the pun. --BSTemple (talk) 01:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for the support. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2011/January#Category:Lincolnshire_railway_station_stubs created. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 06:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Discussion so far is fairly negative --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Probably not going to Russia now, had an accident at work and won't be fit in time. So that plan is rather moot now. RL strikes again. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 13:55, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Now what about the unclassifiable things? Heritage Trust of Lincolnshire and Theatre Royal, Lincoln? if there aren't enough then what about just Category:Lincolnshire_stubs? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 06:16, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Would probably keep them all together and make them easy to find. Keith D (talk) 13:52, 29 January 2011 (UTC)


File talk:Ruskington-High-Street-South lookin towards the church.JPG carries a project banner, and hence appears in Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Assessment.

Is that right? should we be doing that to all 524 pictures in ? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 23:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Personally I cannot see any point in tagging files that are actually located on Commons for the project as it would only pick up someone using the same filename to upload different file here. I would only tag files that are located on Wikipedia. Keith D (talk) 19:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Fair enough. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
Removed tag --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 11:49, 20 February 2011 (UTC)

Postcode areas & assesment[edit]

See Talk:LN_postcode_area#Mid_importance.3F. Why is the LN postcode list 'Mid' & the others 'Low' ? (Ok, I just made DN Low but that was by copying PE)--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Can't see any reason, so I'll make it low. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)


Anyone know why Twyford Forest&Twyford Wood are separate articles? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 23:21, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Both were created by the same user in 2005. Keith D (talk) 01:21, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
I don't like delete or merge proposals. They seem destructive to me, and discourage creation of new material. Disrespectful. I'd only suggest doing it if he's not active.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:02, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
It looks like Twyford Wood is part of Kesteven Forest [Forestry Commission Website]. I'm not convinced it's two places DancingGerbil (talk) 11:46, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
In this case it is best to merge into Twyford Wood bringing over info and refs.--BSTemple (talk) 11:59, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
No, they are two names for one place, under different FC organisation eras. SK950230 That's what made me ask (The site was a WW2 aerodrome, the name comes from a Deserted medieval village nearby SK929229). The OS map calls it Twyford Wood so I agree if we do merge that should be the article. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:40, 12 February 2011 (UTC)


Is this good enough for GA status?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:43, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

I would think it would struggle with referencing as it stands. There are several {{fact}} tags in article, the "Notable Sleafordians" and " Traditions" sections are unreferenced. The other references are missing detail on publisher, published date, access date etc.. Keith D (talk) 21:12, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

Parish, village, hamlet[edit]

I've been doing some assessing. There are a lot of unfinished pages out there, and a lot of inconsistencies. Consider:

If we are to be a project, should we not have a policy? There seems to be two separate movements going on: one dedicated to an article for everywhere on List of places in Lincolnshire with it's avowed idea that every placename printed on an OS 1:25K is a valid entry; and one dedicated to ensuring each civil parish has a page, even if the constituent villages already have a well-written entry. I can't believe we can, or should, reverse either juggernaut. But we might be able to build something bigger from the wreckage of the two.

I propose the following:

  • Every Civil Parish in List of civil parishes in Lincolnshire should have a page (nearly done)
  • If a civil parish has more than one settlement, each settlement in List of places in Lincolnshire should have a page. (close to complete)
  • The civil parishes should not replicate the contents of the settlement pages.
  • The civil parishes should transclude in the contents of the settlement pages.
  • The settlement pages should be written with <include only> </include only> (etc.) tags so that the detail appears wherever people look for it.

The table at WP:Lincs#Assessments has no facility for indicating progress to this aim. Perhaps we need a Category:Lincolnshire_parish_policy_required for the talk page?

I guess we would need to find a way to separately transclude in things like "external links" from the settlement pages.

A good place to try this out might be Greetham with Somersby where the civil parish page does not exist. I will do something about that over the next few days, health permitting. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:43, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I do not think that we should be transluding in the settlement pages into the civil parish page, the civil parish should probably just contain a short summary of the settlement articles as per WP:Summary style. The civil parish article should use the {{Infobox England and Wales civil parish}}, probably with a map of the parish in the county. For the East Riding of Yorkshire I have created civil parish articles for this parishes that do not have the same name as any of the settlements, but if it has the same name then just noted civil parish as part of intro. I have not got very far with this just but Anlaby with Anlaby Common is a basic civil parish stub. Keith D (talk) 13:24, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
I've just created Edenham Grimsthorpe Elsthorpe & Scottlethorpe in the manner you suggest, and moved across the appropriate stuff from Edenham. Is that the sort of thing you meant? (I've also reduced the suggestion above) --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 12:27, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
That looks something like I was thinking about. I would switch to the parish infobox rather than the settlement infobox and add a governance section as that is what the parish is about. Keith D (talk) 14:32, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Tried that. Why on earth is the syntax so different? Could not work out what to do with the map. Too difficult for an invalid! Governance might be a bit thin. The parish council is not on line, so that would mean district ward and county councillors names. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 18:22, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
The maps are not the usual blank locator map just a file highlighting the whole parish on the map of civil parishes in county. I have created the derived work for this parish and uploaded to commons File:Edenham Grimsthorpe Elsthorpe & Scottlethorpe UK parish locator map.svg. Thanks must go to Nilfanion for creating the base maps for each of the counties. Keith D (talk) 19:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Not sure how you did that, but I've had a go: changed the infobox and added the administrative arrangements in Edenham Grimsthorpe Elsthorpe & Scottlethorpe. 30 years ago the school would have gone in the parish page, but kids from Elsthorpe are now bussed to Bourne, and Grimsthorpe to Corby Glen, so I have left it in the village page. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:58, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
Easy when you know how. I just got to do it last week, Nilfanion guided me through and has produced instructions and all you need is notepad and some time. Keith D (talk) 21:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
done Careby Aunby and Holywell on the same basis. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 00:31, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
May be better to keep to the same file naming convention for them all without the brackets and the parish name at the start. Keith D (talk) 00:50, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Photos of police stations[edit]

I've been over on commons, categorising geograph photos of lincolnshire. Done abot 600 so far. I've started on Commons:Category:Emergency services in Lincolnshire and can't find many pictures of police stations, cars etc.

Are people frit of terrorism rules or summat? I've found all the fire stations & lots of hospitals, barely any ambulances. but only two police stations.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 09:12, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

Spalding Amateur Dramatic And Operatic Society[edit]

Does anyone know anything about Spalding Amateur Dramatic And Operatic Society? The article seems to be going nowhere. That does not mean the society does not exist. The Bourne Boderers morris team is as active as it ever was, despite having almost no web profile. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)

The main article claims that Spalding ADOS is the oldest theatre group in England. Sorry - not so. We believe that the Manchester Athenaeum Amateur Dramatic Society is the oldest active amateur theatre group(possibly in the world). It was founded in 1847 by members of the Manchester Athenaeum gentleman's club who wanted to do more that just read plays and is still active today presenting three productions a year. A potted history is available from our secretary on application. IanDarke (talk) 16:22, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

Assesment criteria[edit]

Not had the stamina or research to carry on with civil parishes at the moment. So I have been looking at unassessed articles, mainly railway related.

So see proposal at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Assessment--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:27, 27 March 2011 (UTC)

I've done what I can with railw\y, village, and road articles that were class= or importance= ??? . I really don't know anything about Football (and care the square root of that) So I've left them for someone who does.
Same with politicians, electionz, and historic administrative areas. Don't know enough to contribute, it's over to zomeone else.
But I reckon I've taken over 500 articles out of the unclassified bin. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Just noticed that Category:WikiProject Lancashire and Cumbria articles has no unclassified article4s. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:40, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
Still plodding on with removing 'stub' banners and re-assesing settlements. Will go back to railway stations when I have the enthusiasm.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 14:51, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
OK, I've been through all the settlements and all the railway stations, I reckon I've taken around 400 out of 'stub/low' into more appropriate categories. There was a lot of good stuff done recently.
A lot of railway stations really are stubs.
I'm not going to touch the politicians or football stuff - about which I know nothing and care less. Someone else will have to do those.
Not sure about the 'road' articles. I think we should just use whatever the road project reckons, but they don't seem to do assesments.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:59, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Found & dealt with a few more Settlements & stations. Really think theay are all done now--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:39, 21 March 2013 (UTC)


Articles for Weelsby & Weelsby Woods are well-written but need serious work on the references.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Gainsborough Old Hall[edit]

Gainsborough Old Hall needs help too.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:34, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

It looks like a nice place, and it's a shame there aren't better photos available. I went through flickr, but this was all I could find. As the hall's a Grade I listed building and a Scheduled Monument there's some stuff online that could be used to expand the article: [1] [2] [3] [4]. Nev1 (talk) 16:56, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Theatre Royal, Lincoln[edit]

I've added to this. Should it be taken off the list? Acabashi (talk) 18:57, 5 April 2011 (UTC)

Martin_Vickers - article assesment.[edit]

Have a peek at this talk page and see what you think--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:28, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

This points out succinctly, perhaps inadvertently, one of the problems with Wikipedia “notability”, and what I believe is its over-emphasis on recentism – something that Wikipedia claims to be against, but for me gives the impression of giving institutionalized support. The “Bish”, Alexander, was a Chancellor of England and instigated the rebuilding of one of the great English Cathedrals. In his time he probably had an immensely greater influence over his society than a local MP or comedienne has over ours. But because of the plethora of information in the media about people living since the beginning of the 20th century, and particularly in the last 15 years of web-life, the ‘who is considered as important’ has been skewed, ridiculously to my mind. Put Saunders back in the 12th century as one of many court jesters, or Vickers as a minor regional advisor, who would be important: they or the Bish? You could say that we, at the cutting edge of history, can make these decisions based on what we think is important to our times. It’s what I call the “arrogance of the now” – the curse of every generation. In 20, 50 or a 100 years time, those whom we think are important will raise an eyebrow of distain. My view is that we should also consider how people, with their current supposed importance placed against historic importance of previous and proved “notables”, might be considered now and in the future. I suspect that Saunders and Vickers, given their current record, will all but be forgotten, even if we cannot yet see “significant effect beyond their lifetimes” as they are not yet dead. I would reduce both to “Low”.
I would agree that that Alexander could be reduced from High to Mid, but only as it appears from the Lord Chancellors I have looked at, when rated, are rated as such. However, if others think that the rebuilding of Lincoln Cathedral, a Lord Chancellorship of England, and the fullsome detailed nature of his article over other Lord Chancellors' articles. deserves more than this for the Lincolnshire Project then so be it; I’m not overly-exercised on this.
However, Alfred Lord Tennyson is definitely of “High” importance, not just for Lincolnshire but nationally and internationally, even after 100 years – a record that would also appear to suggest that this “fame”, and it is fame, will continue.
BTW, why is not Matthew Flinders in the project? – Undoubtedly at least “Mid”, I think “High”.
Acabashi (talk) 23:01, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
I'm happy with High for Tennyson, Flinders, Banks, and Boole. And the Bish. I've demoted our wannabes as well. I've also thrown in Nicholas Parsons, Boothby Graffoe. Oh and Poet Ben, and astronaut Mike.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:20, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
I’m supposing that the criteria for people-addition in the project includes significant national or international notability, (otherwise all blue-linked yellowbellies would go in), and those whose articles requires work - here are two such (and interesting ones) who were born, raised and lived in Lincs: Doris Stokes (Grantham) and Beverley Allitt (Corby Glen / Grantham) – these are untagged but could do with some development or editing. And John Harrison raised from age 7 in Barrow upon Humber – article needs cites. I notice that many Lincs people articles randomly checked are devoid of suitable cats – I shall make a leisurely trawl through them now and then to add such. Acabashi (talk) 12:34, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
I posted a long reply here which seems to have vanished. Good luck with the cats.
BTW I once went to a Doris Stokes meeting with my Gran, an experienced de-bunker. Stokes was, of course, a fraud but I'm not sure she was aware of that. And I remember Beverly Allitt as a child and a young woman. I wasn't at all surprised by her imprisonment, although was surprised by what she was imprisoned for. Robert EA Harvey (talk) 05:44, 14 April 2011 (UTC)
Very soon after my mother moved to Grantham from North Lincs for war work at MAP, she went to the Grantham Spiritualist Church to see the young Stokes in private session. Stokes "saw" and "communicated" with an old lady in a flowered bonnet. My mother thought many old ladies, like her grandmother, frequently put flowers in their hats, so was sceptical, even though Stokes got her name straight-out without seeming to fish. Being a quiet and extremely private person, mother had not told anything to anybody about her life before Grantham, but Stokes, without asking any questions or casting-around different names, said "Reg" was there. He "spoke" in specific detail through Stokes of the motorcycle accident in which he was killed in the subsequent fire, and of my mother riding pillion and being permanently injured. There were the expected apologies from Reg. But the whole thing was right on the button. I said you must have told somebody in Grantham about the accident; my mother said she hadn't told a soul and there were details that she alone knew. She was still rather sceptical even though she swore she gave nothing away - hardly talking at all; but of course psychics can be very clever. Spooky. Acabashi (talk) 14:39, 14 April 2011 (UTC)


This project should cover Rutland pages as well. Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 15:58, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

I cannot see Rutland having a separate project, unless there are a lot of active editors for the area, so may be it could be covered here. Would need some discussion on how to incorporate it, may be using work-groups. Any thoughts? Keith D (talk) 16:36, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
Are you sure you don't mean the Leics page should cover Rutland? DancingGerbil (talk) 21:23, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Do not think we have a Leicestershire project at the moment. Keith D (talk) 22:02, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
I'm starting a Leic.. & Rutland Project.Wilbysuffolk Talk to me 19:58, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Elliott Morris at AfD[edit]

Elliott Morris, up-and-coming young guitarist from Lincolnshire, is at AfD. Trilliumz (talk) 17:50, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

River Lymn[edit]

I have made a start on expanding this article, but am not sure what to do about the Steeping River. There is no article for it at the moment, but it is essentially the continuation of the River Lymn with a different name. Any suggestions as to whether it should be a separate article or part of the same one? Bob1960evens (talk) 17:04, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

If it is any help, I have just found more of the Lymn to the north of Wainfleet All Saints, and the Steeping River becomes the Wainfleet Haven and the Wainfleet Relief Channel! Bob1960evens (talk) 19:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiWomen's History Month[edit]

Hi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Lincolnshire will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Lincolnshire's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 22:02, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Hatfield Chase[edit]

I have just added an infobox to the Hatfield Chase article. It required co-ordinates, so I chose Tunnel Pits as the approximate mid-point, but when it displayed it on the map of South Yorkshire, it was outside the bondary and in North Lincolnshire. Should I add the article to the Lincolnshire Project? Bob1960evens (talk) 11:50, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

I have added the project banner as it is partly in Lincolnshire. May be the article category's need to include Lincolnshire ones as well. Keith D (talk) 19:52, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

GA nomination[edit]

I have just nominated Haxey Hood for GA status, but on reflection I expect it to fail on lack of in-line citations. Can someone who understands these things have a look at it?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

Guerillero | My Talk has just assessed and failed it, but I can't see any notes--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:03, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
The reviwer did not put the information in the template on the talk page. I have modified the template to show where the review page is. Or you could go direct to Talk:Haxey Hood/GA1. Keith D (talk) 22:24, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I've put it on the To Do list--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:53, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Pastscape template[edit]

Someone has created Template:Cite PastScape

I commend it, and will be using it for references in future. (e.g. Dogdyke railway station)
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:51, 16 March 2013 (UTC)

Also worth mentioning Template:IoE and Template:NHLE
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:51, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

To Do list[edit]

To Do list created with two items. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

List of bus routes in Lincolnshire[edit]

List of bus routes in Lincolnshire has been nominated for deletion here. Keith D (talk) 13:04, 18 March 2013 (UTC)

Voted. Although I don't really care much either way, I don't like the way this is being done. There was no consensus at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Buses#Lists_of_Bus_Routes but the Worcestershire and west midlands lists have already gone without being moved to Wikivoyage. Looks like an agenda, not something constructive.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
I think the option was left to move the content (and probably to Wikia fwiw) if it was wanted by the closing admin in the Worcestershire and West Midlands case wasn't it? The same could be done here. The content at Transport in Lincolnshire is reasonable, although if there was shed loads more historical detail then a Buses in Lincolnshire article could be added - a prose one of course. It's been done before and can make an effective enough article summarising the major routes even. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:41, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

North Lincolnshire Council[edit]

Looks like the North Lincolnshire Council have re-organised their web site and all links to are now dead. I have started to mark them as dead. May be there is an easy way to repair them if some one can come up with a translation. Keith D (talk) 19:14, 18 March 2013 (UTC)


If you look at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Lincolnshire#Assessments there are 14 'category' pages in mid importance & 318 in NA. I imagine one of those is wrong. Which one?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 18:00, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Good article nominee GA nominations[edit]

Nominated River Witham and River Welland
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:58, 3 April 2013 (UTC)

River Witham passed on 4th May.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 06:35, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
Rive Witham passed on 31st April.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

Does Austendyke exist?[edit]

See my new discussion at Talk:Austendike#Does_Austendyke_exist?. All contributions welcome there.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 09:34, 13 April 2013 (UTC)

Replied there. Acabashi (talk) 09:58, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

All Saints Church, Barrowby[edit]

Could someone assess the importance of this one please - thanks. Acabashi (talk) 09:44, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 Done--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:27, 27 April 2013 (UTC)

Census data[edit]

The Office of national statistics has the 2011 census data presented in a different way to the 2001 census.

I wrote them the following email:

Here is a queer thing.

The map at
clearly shows Boothby Pagnell inside the parish of Bitchfield and Bassingthorne.

But according to SKDC, they are separate:

Your own site gives them separate in 2001;jsessionid=0JhQR4dTql4Lx8ZQGGgnvXm4g6YvnyJ4B7rC7ZylPq13m9n249J4!-1346669638!13668262


So is it your map that is wrong?

The reply I got back was

The parish guidance at provides an example of a similar instance that you report under the '...The boundaries for my parish/community don't look right compared to previous versions..' sub-heading.

Producing data for small areas, such as villages, can be problematic, not least due to the small populations often living in a village there is the risk of disclosure. In addition a villages can vary immensely in nature across the country so are difficult to define statistically.

To address the issue of disseminating data at small area level, the concept of Super Output Areas (SOAs) was devised. Details of SOAs and their rationale can be found here

While the intention was that SOA geographies were meant to be stable, population changes arising from the 2011 Census meant that some new geographic entities had to be created and some existing ones merged, please see the PDF report at for more details.

For 2001 Boothby Pagnell parish was associated with the Output Area (OA) E00133659, for 2011 due to the changes in the above report it was now associated with a new OA E00169422 this has changed how Boothby Pagnall is represented statistically. The maps within Neighbourhood Statistics are to show statistical dissemination only, they are not intended to provide a definitive geographic representation of a particular area.

The parish guidance at provides an example of a similar instance that you report

I hope this helps, apologies for all the links, unfortunately it is quite a complex subject that does not fit easily into a single email.

It would seem that what I would assume was a reputable source, nay the definitive one, cannot be trusted below district level.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I found that out when I was updating the East Riding parishes. They have amalgamated small parishes with the adjacent one without telling you so the figure and map you get could include more than one parish where one has a low headcount. At least in the 2001 census data you could get the headcount from the map which is no longer possible for 2011. Keith D (talk) 17:33, 26 April 2013 (UTC)


Come on, lads. Of the 20 articles in Category:GA-Class Lincolnshire articles 7 are 'inherited' from the Waterbabies, one from the steam nuts, and one from chatteringclasses. Can't we beef up some of our 'own' articles? Like Lincoln Castle or Stamford or Lincolnshire Wolds ?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 06:33, 12 May 2013 (UTC)

St Martin's Church, Ancaster and St Bartholomew's Church, Welby and St Peter's Church, Ropsley[edit]

Could someone Talk Page assess these new ones please. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 19:34, 30 June 2013 (UTC)

DYK nomination[edit]

A Did You Know nom has been presented for the Lincs article St Peter's Ropsley - [5] Acabashi (talk) 13:00, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

On the subject of the bells, does anyone know which is the cracked one & if the other one is actually rung?--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:13, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

DYK for St Peter's Church, Ropsley (Lincs article promoted)[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 20:33, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

St Andrew's Church, Billingborough[edit]

Please assess this one for the Lincs Project. Many Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 00:14, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

done, but with comments.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 09:00, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
Many thanks - I have responded there too. Cheers. Acabashi (talk) 20:51, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

Useful resource[edit]

From google books: [ The History of the County of Lincoln,: From the Earliest Period to the Present Time; Thomas Allen 1834 ].--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:22, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

St John the Evangelist’s Church, Corby Glen[edit]

Could someone assess this one for the project please. Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 22:23, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

Done, with comments.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 06:43, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

Roll call[edit]

I've just checked the list of project members on the front page and very few are current contributors. I think that it's just me and Acabashi at the moment. Who is still interested?

Knock once for yes...

--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 18:52, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

I am still around. Keith D (talk) 20:26, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
Still busy busy on Lincs and not far off finishing all the London distances - can one of you assess this new one please - St Nicholas' Church, Fulbeck. I was surprised that my WP friend User:Panderoona stopped a year ago as I did - she was a great asset in starting over 150 Lincs place articles while developing her favourite Brothertoft. I suppose she might have burned-out and needed a break - it can happen to anyone. I will send her an email and invite her back. Best. Acabashi (talk) 19:26, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
St Nicholas' Church, Fulbeck - assessed.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 22:54, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
I am still around, because I returned as an admin in January. However, I am still not as active as I was before. I have done some minor editing, and I have just found an academic paper I got before I withdrew a few years ago about archeological finds in the parish church of Great Hale, where I used to live. I will try to get round to being more active in the future.  DDStretch  (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Edmund Weaver (astronomer)[edit]

Can someone assess this one please. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 22:24, 7 August 2013 (UTC)

Please help get Lincs ready for the start of the Wiki Loves Monuments competition on 1st September[edit]

This September the UK is taking part for the first time in the international photography competition Wiki Loves Monuments. Participants will be invited to submit pictures of listed buildings of significant importance (grades I or grade II*), as recorded by English Heritage. The main external website for competitors can be found here, and you can leave a message there if you have queries about competing. Do please join in, and let people in your local area know of this excellent way in which both existing and new Wiki users can help improve the encyclopaedia by contributing photographs of local listed structures. What about organizing a local Wikimeet to attract new people?

In preparation for the start of the competition on 1st September there is still quite a lot of work to do, and we would like to ask for the help of members of this wikiproject. Your local and expert knowledge will be invaluable in ensuring that the lists of eligible buildings are up to date and correctly formatted. If you look at Listed buildings in the United Kingdom you will see how many structures are included. If you then follow the link to Listed buildings in England, you can get to the detailed lists for your area. Alternatively have a look at the WLM planning table. Can you help to ensure that the lists for your area are up to date and well presented?

Some of the lists have been semi-automatically generated from data provided by English Heritage. These use pre formatted templates (eg EH header) which will make it much easier for competition participants to upload their photographs to Commons as an automated process. Please don't change the template structure, as we need to ensure that the templates are properly compatible with the WLM standards that are in use worldwide. The format will allow a bot automatically to collect the information and to put it into the international Monuments Database.

The data still needs the attention of local editors:

  • The "title" may need wikilinking to a suitable article name (whether we currently have that article or not). If there are several buildings in one street all of the wikilinks point at an article about the street; however each entry has a separate line in the list.
  • The "location" column looks and sorts better if just the parish or town is included (& wikilinked).
  • The "date completed" column sometimes has eg "C19" for 19th century, and "C1850" for c. 1850 when the date is uncertain - these need to be corrected manually.
  • The "grid ref & lat & long" (which is occasionally missing) may be given to 8 characters — only 6 (grid ref) or 5 (lat & long) are really needed.
  • Clicking on the "list entry number" should take you to the data sheet for that entry on the English Heritage database which can be checked if needed for details.
  • The image column should have a picture added if we already have a suitable image on Commons. (N.B. if you are going to be taking photos yourself for inclusion in the competition don't upload them until September)
  • References may be added according to normal WP practice.

For further information, please see Commons:Wiki Loves Monuments 2013 in the United Kingdom.

If you have any queries, please post them not below but on the Organizers' help page on Commons.

Anything you can do to help improve these lists will be much appreciated. The final deadline for cleaning up is 31st August.

--MichaelMaggs (talk) 14:50, 9 August 2013 (UTC)

OK, I've added pictures for about half of Grade I listed buildings in South Kesteven. Someone else can do some more! --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
Wikilinked most of that, & added some more existing pics--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 19:58, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
The more I look at this the odder it seems. Why not start at the top with Scheduled ancient monuments? Those are in a very parlous state on WP. Go look at Category:Scheduled Ancient Monuments in Lincolnshire to see what I mean.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 03:05, 6 September 2013 (UTC)

Error in List of civil parishes in Lincolnshire[edit]

See the comments on Talk:List of civil parishes in Lincolnshire--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 09:41, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

 Done - Fixed it myself, despite the intimidating structure.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:33, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Another resource[edit] --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 00:19, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 01:51, 10 September 2013 (UTC)


I reckon it is time to ask for the following to be deleted:

Anyone good at doing those? I always seem to stuff these ramshackle pages up when I try.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 08:32, 24 August 2013 (UTC)

Categories for church articles[edit]

I'm beginning to think that pages like St John the Evangelist's Church, Corby Glen look slightly out of place in Category:South Kesteven. Should there be a Category:Churches in South Kesteven which is itself a single member of the parent? we have Category:People from South Kesteven (district)‎ (etc. - applies to all districts) (how does it work in other places?)--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 17:56, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


I have been resolving red links in List of civil parishes in Lincolnshire#South Kesteven, and have created:

I have, where required, created and populated the matching commons category - all further contributions gratefully received.

None of them have infoboxes. I am not an infobox sort of person. If anyone is madly enthusiastic about them, feel free.

I have one more to do, then on to North Kesteven. On the way I discovered a whole range of parish councils, from the madly efficient to the about-to-be-sanctioned. Some have just been rolled up with next door.

--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 07:34, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Ok that's the SK ones done, with Lenton, Keisby and Osgodby.
I will move on to NK, unless anyone else fancies it.
--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 23:20, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

St Vincent's Church, Caythorpe[edit]

Project assessment on this one please. Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

 Done Comments there. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 05:02, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Found humour[edit]

From our cleanup page:

Doris Stokes...Articles with dead external links (October 2010)

Well, it made me laugh!--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 10:36, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

Another another Resource[edit]

There are some useful notes here: and here: Both have significant downloadable pdfs.

--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:59, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

George Hussey Packe[edit]

Project assessment for this new one appreciated. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 19:47, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Popular pages tool update[edit]

As of January, the popular pages tool has moved from the Toolserver to Wikimedia Tool Labs. The code has changed significantly from the Toolserver version, but users should notice few differences. Please take a moment to look over your project's list for any anomalies, such as pages that you expect to see that are missing or pages that seem to have more views than expected. Note that unlike other tools, this tool aggregates all views from redirects, which means it will typically have higher numbers. (For January 2014 specifically, 35 hours of data is missing from the WMF data, which was approximated from other dates. For most articles, this should yield a more accurate number. However, a few articles, like ones featured on the Main Page, may be off).

Web tools, to replace the ones at tools:~alexz/pop, will become available over the next few weeks at toollabs:popularpages. All of the historical data (back to July 2009 for some projects) has been copied over. The tool to view historical data is currently partially available (assessment data and a few projects may not be available at the moment). The tool to add new projects to the bot's list is also available now (editing the configuration of current projects coming soon). Unlike the previous tool, all changes will be effective immediately. OAuth is used to authenticate users, allowing only regular users to make changes to prevent abuse. A visible history of configuration additions and changes is coming soon. Once tools become fully available, their toolserver versions will redirect to Labs.

If you have any questions, want to report any bugs, or there are any features you would like to see that aren't currently available on the Toolserver tools, see the updated FAQ or contact me on my talk page. Mr.Z-bot (talk) (for Mr.Z-man) 05:14, 23 February 2014 (UTC)

St Mary and St Peter’s Church, Harlaxton[edit]

Could someone please assess this new one for Lincs Project please. Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 01:41, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

St James' Church, Aslackby[edit]

A new one just uploaded. Can I have a Project assessment on the Talk page please. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 23:32, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


An assessment please for this short one. Many thanks. Acabashi (talk) 17:05, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

And this one please: Moulton Seas End, Lincolnshire. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 21:19, 30 June 2014 (UTC)

Seacroft, Lincolnshire[edit]

Call out to anyone who passes this lonely backwater. I've tried to add stuff to Seacroft - difficult as there is nothing - it's only a short road. The geocoords link to Leeds - can anyone be bothered to fix this? - I don't know how to do it - here's where the 'place' is as you won't be able to find it:

Might it be better, however, to give this one the coup de grâce ? Acabashi (talk) 21:06, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

Holbeach Clough & Holbeach Bank & Holbeach Marsh[edit]

Anyone care to assess these new ones ? Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 13:10, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

Comment on the WikiProject X proposal[edit]

Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:47, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Old maps and views of the East Midlands[edit]

As you might have seen in the Signpost last week, there's currently a drive to go through the million 19th century images released by the British Library last year, and identify all the maps, with a view to their being georeferenced by BL volunteers, and then uploaded to Commons early next year. After the first week, over eight thousand new maps have been identified, with 40% of the target books looked at -- see the status page for the latest figures, and more information.

A part that may specifically interest this project is

c:Commons:British Library/Mechanical Curator collection/Synoptic index/England - East Midlands

which currently shows pink templated links for 113 Flickr book pages still to be looked at. (Though there are lots of other parts of England, and indeed of the world, still to be looked through as well).

Any help looking through these would be very much appreciated -- as well as the maps (and ground plans) for tagging, you may well also find other interesting or useful non-map views that may be worth considering or uploading for articles on Lincolnhire and the East Midlands. (If uploading, please use the ingestion template described here, which sets up some appropriate image templates and categories).

Thanks, Jheald (talk) 21:32, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Geoffrey (archbishop of York) nomination for Today's Featured Article[edit]

I've nominated the article Geoffrey (archbishop of York) to be considered for Today's Featured Article, nomination discussion is at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/Geoffrey (archbishop of York). — Cirt (talk) 01:43, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Change of school name[edit]

Locksley Christian School has been renamed Regents Academy as of January 2014 - can the page now be moved to reflect this change? I represent this school in this matter, however I do not have the option to 'move' the page myself. Walkmeister (talk) 16:39, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

It's been done. Primefac (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2015 (UTC)

WikiProject X is live![edit]

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Hello everyone!

You may have received a message from me earlier asking you to comment on my WikiProject X proposal. The good news is that WikiProject X is now live! In our first phase, we are focusing on research. At this time, we are looking for people to share their experiences with WikiProjects: good, bad, or neutral. We are also looking for WikiProjects that may be interested in trying out new tools and layouts that will make participating easier and projects easier to maintain. If you or your WikiProject are interested, check us out! Note that this is an opt-in program; no WikiProject will be required to change anything against its wishes. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you!

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Harej (talk) 16:57, 14 January 2015 (UTC)

Sleaford peer review[edit]

Hello, I am just notifying you that I have just put Sleaford up for Peer Review here. Any feedback would be great. Many thanks, --Noswall59 (talk) 15:45, 18 January 2015 (UTC).

Assessment ?[edit]

Anybody care to talk-page assess this one: Edmund Turnor (1755–1829). The Turnors look to be the most influential family in Kesteven, and to some extent in parts of East Lindsey in the 18th, 19th and 20thC, and the third biggest landowners by area in 19thC Lincs. I previously put this one - Christopher Turnor MP - as a low out of modesty. It's difficult to assess importance as there seems to be no Lincs or other Project-specific (or general) guidelines as what constitutes importance. A side shot - I notice for quite a few articles on Grade I listed buildings there can be a tendency to give a High Project importance, and elsewhere Mid or even Low, depending on the county, or which editor is assessing. Stub/Start/C etc is pretty straightforward, but should we try some kind of consensus on what might constitute levels of importance for different types of articles. ? Acabashi (talk) 02:15, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Hi, in terms of the article, you might want to take a look at his entry at the History of Parliament project here. It's a very reliable, scholarly work and could probably provide more information about his political career. The first paragraph is cited, but you may want to consider putting individual citations for each main statement, i.e. his parentage, descent, marriage, death, etc. (It also feels odd to mention his death at the end - perhaps it could be moved to the end of his "career" section...) The same is true for the paragraph which starts "counted among his friends". I would say that the article certainly meets "Start" and likely, with info on his political career, a "C" grade; the prose is good, but it feels a bit disjointed in the "career" section; it is cited with what appear to be reliable sources (the ODNB, Gent. Mag., Ruvigny (generally reliable), etc.); the lack of info on his political career is a big gap, which means it fails criteria "2" for B-class ("The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies"). Above, you mention the size of his estates, but in the article, you don't - if you found that in a reliable source, then you could add it. Also, did he influence local life? Are there local history sources that could tell us more about how he affected the communities who lived in the estates he owned? Lastly, I would argue he is "low" in importance, possibly "mid" if more info can be found to assess how influential he was in the county. Thanks, --Noswall59 (talk) 11:32, 23 January 2015 (UTC).
Thanks for that. I will use the source when I get around to it - his political career only spanned four years so it might not be all that influential, that's why I didn't use an MP infobox, but he is an accepted antiquary. The size of the estate is based on that during his son's Rochford/Panton tenure so I'm not sure I can use that, but I can't find anything to say that it was a different size in his day, especially I have a source that says that his descendant sold off 6000 acres from the Kesteven and Lindsey estates, so it was probably larger. Like other Lincs estates Rochford/Panton came nowhere near the huge Yarborough/Brocklesby. The death info is a bit tricky to fit inside the genealogy or career, and as very often happens, something that doesn't quite fit gets tagged on to what might or might not be the nearest relevant section to avoid a one sentence section. When it comes to refs I'm always irked when they are sprinkled throughout a para, something that interrupts the readers' flow, so I tend to stack them at the ends. I don't mind a 'low' for him, and only a 'start' looks obvious as it isn't a 'C' for substantial, or 'B' for almost complete. I think it unlikely it will get ever past a 'start', although I have seen some quite overblown assessments for insubstantial not so important Lincolnshire articles :) My chief concern above was 'importance assessment' for listed buildings which, between and within WP county projects, often don't seem to have consistency. Acabashi (talk) 01:08, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

St Andrew and St Mary's Church, Stoke Rochford[edit]

A Talk page assess on this new on please anybody. Thanks. Acabashi (talk) 01:15, 2 February 2015 (UTC)

GA nomination of Sleaford[edit]

Hello again, I am just letting everyone here know that I have nominated Sleaford for Good Article assessment (see WP:GAN#PLACE). Regards, —Noswall59 (talk) 17:33, 4 February 2015 (UTC).

Proposal to move Methodism to Child Project[edit]

Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals/Methodism Jerodlycett (talk) 09:45, 4 March 2015 (UTC)

Peer review for Manor House, Sleaford[edit]

Hello, I have put the Manor House, Sleaford up for peer review here. It's an interesting building with some notable owners, and has received less attention than it should have done. Having squeezed the sources dry, I'm hoping to nominate it for GA and so any comments would be much appreciated. Kind regards, —Noswall59 (talk) 21:27, 25 March 2015 (UTC).

General election results[edit]

Just to let everyone know, I believe all of the results for Lincolnshire constituencies have been updated. It will be worth checking Category:Parliamentary constituencies in Lincolnshire, but it appears all have been done. I have updated the four remaining ones: Sleaford and North Hykeham, Lincoln, Gainsborough, and Louth and Horncastle. Cheers, —Noswall59 (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2015 (UTC).

List of public art[edit]

Please populate List of public art in Lincolnshire; see [6] for a guide. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:57, 5 September 2015 (UTC)

2016 Community Wishlist Survey Proposal to Revive Popular Pages[edit]

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Greetings WikiProject Lincolnshire Members!

This is a one-time-only message to inform you about a technical proposal to revive your Popular Pages list in the 2016 Community Wishlist Survey that I think you may be interested in reviewing and perhaps even voting for:

If the above proposal gets in the Top 10 based on the votes, there is a high likelihood of this bot being restored so your project will again see monthly updates of popular pages.

Further, there are over 260 proposals in all to review and vote for, across many aspects of wikis.

Thank you for your consideration. Please note that voting for proposals continues through December 12, 2016.

Best regards, SteviethemanDelivered: 18:03, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Spalding War Memorial[edit]

Hello! Is there anybody watching this page who is within striking distance of Spalding? I'm trying to get better photos of the town's war memorial for use in a potential featured article. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks, HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 19:07, 29 December 2016 (UTC)

Popular pages report[edit]

We – Community Tech – are happy to announce that the Popular pages bot is back up-and-running (after a one year hiatus)! You're receiving this message because your WikiProject or task force is signed up to receive the popular pages report. Every month, Community Tech bot will post at Wikipedia:WikiProject Lincolnshire/Popular pages with a list of the most-viewed pages over the previous month that are within the scope of WikiProject Lincolnshire.

We've made some enhancements to the original report. Here's what's new:

  • The pageview data includes both desktop and mobile data.
  • The report will include a link to the pageviews tool for each article, to dig deeper into any surprises or anomalies.
  • The report will include the total pageviews for the entire project (including redirects).

We're grateful to Mr.Z-man for his original Mr.Z-bot, and we wish his bot a happy robot retirement. Just as before, we hope the popular pages reports will aid you in understanding the reach of WikiProject Lincolnshire, and what articles may be deserving of more attention. If you have any questions or concerns please contact us at m:User talk:Community Tech bot.

Warm regards, the Community Tech Team 17:15, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject collaboration notice from the Portals WikiProject[edit]

The reason I am contacting you is because there are one or more portals that fall under this subject, and the Portals WikiProject is currently undertaking a major drive to automate portals that may affect them.

Portals are being redesigned.

The new design features are being applied to existing portals.

At present, we are gearing up for a maintenance pass of portals in which the introduction section will be upgraded to no longer need a subpage. In place of static copied and pasted excerpts will be self-updating excerpts displayed through selective transclusion, using the template {{Transclude lead excerpt}}.

The discussion about this can be found here.

Maintainers of specific portals are encouraged to sign up as project members here, noting the portals they maintain, so that those portals are skipped by the maintenance pass. Currently, we are interested in upgrading neglected and abandoned portals. There will be opportunity for maintained portals to opt-in later, or the portal maintainers can handle upgrading (the portals they maintain) personally at any time.


On April 8th, 2018, an RfC ("Request for comment") proposal was made to eliminate all portals and the portal namespace. On April 17th, the Portals WikiProject was rebooted to handle the revitalization of the portal system. On May 12th, the RfC was closed with the result to keep portals, by a margin of about 2 to 1 in favor of keeping portals.

There's an article in the current edition of the Signpost interviewing project members about the RfC and the Portals WikiProject.

Since the reboot, the Portals WikiProject has been busy building tools and components to upgrade portals.

So far, 84 editors have joined.

If you would like to keep abreast of what is happening with portals, see the newsletter archive.

If you have any questions about what is happening with portals or the Portals WikiProject, please post them on the WikiProject's talk page.

Thank you.    — The Transhumanist   07:45, 30 May 2018 (UTC)