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Edits on Byron Galvez[edit]

Hey, would you please stop changing the page? The river under his house is the Tula River (check a map!!) the Tula ends up in the Moctezuma, but in Mixquiahuala it's still the Tula River. Furthermore, Byron spent his last years living in Colonia Condesa (in Agustin Melgar street) in Mexico City and NOT in Mixquiahuala (though he had a weekend house there). He died of Stomach cancer (yes, his heart stopped, which is what the newspaper says, but only after a large operation to attempt to remove the tumor). Finally, the exhibit in Taiwan was of fake paintings, I'm still fighting that battle and trying to get the gallery that's putting fakes in the market. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rleibman (talkcontribs) 22:33, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

You need to cite a source when you change information. Provide a source to replace the one that is there to make the change permanent. River names vary in Mexico. Its not as cut-and-dry as in other places.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:39, 7 November 2013 (UTC) By the way, I see you have a problem with a photo. If you have the rights to the photo, or can get someone in the artist's family to sign a letter, I can help you with the process to get it up and stick. I did his articles as part of a project with the Salón de la Plástica Mexicana, which he is a member of and they can help as well.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:44, 7 November 2013 (UTC) I'm not sure what source to cite, Byron was my step-father, I wrote the original wikipedia article, all the issues I mention are first hand knowledge, or you can call his widow (and representative) Eva Beloglovsky in Mexico City to confirm all I said. I know wikipedia is not supposed to show original research, but I'm not sure you wanted showing falsehoods either. I can add something to ByronGalvez.com if you think that's helpful (since I manage that site) but that just seems silly. And yes, I do have rights to the photo, your help would be much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.196.11 (talk) 21:28, 28 November 2013 (UTC)

Nice page on Antonio Vega![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG I just marked your page on Antonio Vega as reviewed. It looks quite good already. Impressive work! Slashme (talk) 01:37, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

Wow, even better that you're using Wikipedia to teach students! You're the kind of person that keeps Wikipedia going! --Slashme (talk) 08:20, 1 April 2013 (UTC)

August 2013[edit]

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DYK for Paulina Lavista[edit]

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You forgot to use either green or blue checkmark. --George Ho (talk) 23:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Answer to Mexican Immigration[edit]

No, no, no - you have a right logic in your head but it is more complex than that. Poland didn't exist at the time so Poles were Germans/Russians/Austrians, and with the passport, so in reality it is difficult to say how many Poles immigrated o Mexico. It used to be dependent on an official (as well as immigrant giving the country of origin). Some of them accepted to put Poland as a place of origin, most refused since Poland was not a country any more. Immigrants had the same dillema.--81.100.242.0 (talk) 10:58, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

PD reference sources[edit]

Maybe this isn't the best idea in the world, but one idea has finally worked its way through my skull here. I have recently started uploading a bunch of PD reference sources broadly relating to religion to Wikimedia Commons, so that I can start adding copyedited versions of some of the longer articles from them to WikiSource, so that they might, eventually, be linked to here. This seems to include at this point quite a few articles which don't yet have articles in the English wikipedia. I don't know how many similar PD reference sources there might be in Spanish in Mexico, but I definitely think it might be useful to maybe try to get them uploaded to commons, and then, if they are in Spanish, they could be translated into English on WikiSource. Alternately, maybe some of the articles in English from some reference sources already in commons could be translated into Spanish for the Spanish WikiSource (if there is one - I don't read Spanish, I dunno), and maybe be used to develope weak or nonexistent articles there. And, considering they are PD, they can be basically be quoted verbatim, as long as proper attribution is given. I wouldn't suggest that for students, because they have no reason not to check to see if there have been any changes in the interim, but in some cases there might not be any real changes to some topics.

l But I am honestly stunned by the extent of the coverage of some of these older reference sources, and from what I've seen of some I've been uploading relating to religion, philosophy, etc., a lot of their broad "topical" articles may well be dated, but a lot of the biographical articles and articles on books and such seem to me to be just about as good, maybe in some cases better, than newer sources. Just an idea, anyway. John Carter (talk) 20:34, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

As a bit of a follow-up, over at wikisource:User:John Carter I have gotten together a list of those old PD reference sources which were still, in 1986, considered useful enough for inclusion in a one-volume list of reference works. It includes quite a few which seem to relate to Latin America, at least some of which I haven't found on archive.org. It is possible, I suppose, that they might be more readily available in Latin American countries. If they are, we could possibly use them.
Also, on an at best marginally related point, La Luz del Mundo seems to be one of our more regularly controversial articles relating to Mexico, and it could always use additional eyes, particularly of individuals who might have more ready access to the better relevant sources. John Carter (talk) 15:47, 24 November 2013 (UTC)

DYK for Mario Moises Alvarez[edit]

The DYK project (nominate) 16:02, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Wiki Borregos CCM missing user[edit]

I believe that CarloSpadaTello is the one who is not in the group.

--DavidConFran (talk) 21:59, 17 September 2013 (UTC)

Tesoros del Registro Civil Salón de la Plástica Mexicana[edit]

Hi there. I'm trying to track down the ISBN number for Tesoros del Registro Civil Salón de la Plástica Mexicana. You added one to Celia Calderón but it doesn't seem to be valid and I can't track it down through the usual sources. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Mackensen (talk) 23:00, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

New student[edit]

Hi I am Jocelyne Díaz the new student! --Jocelyne Zaid (talk) 21:39, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013[edit]

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Source of Popocateptl sound file?[edit]

I was just wondering where you got that. The speaker pronounces it as "popocatepet i l, notice the 'i' in between the 't' and 'l' at the end. This is not how it would be pronounced in Nahuatl. There would be no 'i'. Also you label it a Spanish. I was wondering how a Nahuatl word could be Spanish. Senor Cuete (talk) 15:46, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Some college student in Monterey isn't a reliable source and the fact that you recorded it yourself violates Wikipedia's policy on original research. I've never heard it pronounced like you have it in the sound file. I would certainly be justified in removing it. Also it's easier if you discuss things on one page, ie. put your reply here, not on my talk page, please. Senor Cuete (talk) 17:04, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Original research pertains to information written in Wikipedia, ,media files. That would be saying that photos have no place in Wikipedia articles for the same reason. There is nothing in WP:NOR to support such a position.Thelmadatter (talk) 17:19, 30 October 2013 (UTC)

Incomplete DYK nomination[edit]

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November 2013[edit]

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DYK for Mexican mask-folk art[edit]

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DYK nomination of Veneration of Judas Thaddaeus (San Judas Tadeo) in Mexico[edit]

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DYK for Huaquechula[edit]

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Template:Did you know nominations/Raheel Sharif[edit]

Thelmadatter, there have been issues with this nomination, which you approved. I thought it would be helpful for you to see what issues arose, so you'll know to check for them next time, and also better understand the general DYK criteria. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 07:40, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

revert[edit]

yup, accident, I was trying to edit to something but I managed to undo it all. I'm smart. Nezzy (Talk)|(Editor contributions) 19:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

email[edit]

Hi, I never got an email from you - you mentioned on my talk page a day or two ago! Perhaps re-send? Thanks!--Jimbo Wales (talk) 10:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for this message! I resent to your wikia address posted on your talk page. The first one I sent via your user page which has worked before. Dunno why it didnt this time.Thelmadatter (talk) 14:44, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

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Mexican muralism + Mexican Renaissance[edit]

Hello there, I logged a question on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts#Mexican muralism + Mexican Renaissance about two articles that seem at the least to overlap and perhaps are the same subject: Mexican muralism and Mexican Renaissance.

I was told you're the person that would have some helpful input about this. If you have a chance to take a look at this, it would be much appreciated.--CaroleHenson (talk) 14:14, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Talkback[edit]

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When you have a chance, it would be great to get your thoughts. CaroleHenson (talk) 23:08, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Merry Christmas...[edit]

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DYK[edit]

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DYK review for Gonzalo Inzunza Inzunza[edit]

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Enciclopedia de México[edit]

Hello Thelma, hope you are well. Glad to see you're still active! Any chance you could expand this stub? It has an entry on Antonio Castellanos which I started early but I can't access it. Perhaps you have access to it and could photograph it!♦ Dr. Blofeld 15:32, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Don't you remember me Thelma? I thought we were on good terms? Surprised to not see a reply from you! What have I done LOL.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:36, 27 February 2014 (UTC)

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La Merced Market[edit]

I appreciate your point, Thelma, but there is no other article about a La Merced Market in another city so we do not need the city name as per this policy: Wikipedia:Unnecessary_disambiguation Keizers (talk) 18:23, 2 April 2014 (UTC)

Education newsletter[edit]

Hi Thelmadatter, If I can upload a photo of our class shortly after midnight (UTC) April 17, 2014, will I still make it for publication? That's the next time our class meets. Crtew (talk) 15:35, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

Request for sources from Mexican university libraries[edit]

Dear Thelma,

I was told that you know who is able to get academic sources from Mexican libraries. I am looking for copies of the following reliable sources because of an AFD of the es:Liceo Mexicano Japonés on the Spanish Wikipedia: es:Wikipedia:Consultas de borrado/Liceo Mexicano Japonés

  • "Proyecto Arquitectónico del Liceo Mexicano Japones, A.C." Arquitectura y sociedad, Colegio de Arquitectos de México, Sociedad de Arquitectos Mexicanos, número 10, Ciudad de México, 1981 (Año XXV). Pág. 19-27.
  • "Liceo Mexicano-japonés." Anuario de arquitectura, Mexico City, 1980.

In addition, I am checking to see if an individual on Reddit is able to get a copy of the following document, but if you or someone you know/can contact are able to get a scan or copy of this from the El Colegio de México I would greatly appreciate it:

Also if someone is able to get a scan of page 318 or any other pages that mention the Liceo (possibly p. 319?) of the following, I would greatly appreciate it:

  • Palma Mora, María Dolores Mónica. De tierras extrañas: un estudio sobre las inmigración en México, 1950-1990. Secretaría de Gobernación de México (SEGOB), Instituto Nacional de Migración, Centro de Estudios Migratorios, 2006. ISBN 9680301710, 9789680301713. p. 318: "El Liceo Mexicano Japonés es una institución central en la vida del grupo, ya que en ella se forman sus hijos. Se fundó en septiembre de 1974, a raíz de la visita a México, por esa fecha, del primer ministro de Japón (Kakuei Tanaka). La escuela, sin embargo, no empezó a funcionar hasta el 2 de septiembre de 1977, y fue inaugurada por el secretario de Educación Pública de ese tiempo, Porfirio Muñoz Ledo.[...]" (See search page)

Libraries in and around Mexico City should have copies of these documents, and it may be possible university libraries in Monterrey may have copies. By having these sources I can help the understanding of the notability of the topic. Do you know who is able to get these academic sources?

Thank you, WhisperToMe (talk) 06:07, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

  • Thank you so much for your help! WhisperToMe (talk) 05:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

I was able to get select pages of Chizuko Watanabe's thesis. Do you know if your students have found anything yet? WhisperToMe (talk) 09:33, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Great news! The article was saved! WhisperToMe (talk) 13:20, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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2010 census[edit]

The automatic updating of population figures ought to be centralized for all countries, localities, etc. It makes updating easier and it stops people from falsifying or otherwise substituting dubious figures for official ones. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 22:40, 6 May 2014 (UTC)

Mole changes[edit]

I'm re-deleting that bogus assertion that mole is "relatively unknown" in the US. The nearly 20 year old article used as the citation for that ends with mole producers in Mexico claiming that their imminent plans are to go after the US market. Based on the age of that citation and the far more recent citation that Americans are asking for mole there is no reason to continue to assert that mole is unknown in the US. Highnumber (talk) 22:29, 7 May 2014 (UTC)

That's why it's good to "date" statements from people, such as "As of 1998... so and so..." and then you can use a newer article to show a change: "As of 2010, so and so said mole has become popular" WhisperToMe (talk) 13:19, 10 May 2014 (UTC)

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Photo requests, and Colegio Franco Español[edit]

I found your photo of the Colegio Franco Español. I didn't know it existed, but once I found the photo I did research, and voila! I now have a stub. Do you do photo requests in Monterrey? If so, I have some ideas. WhisperToMe (talk) 10:32, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

Oh, ok! In case you have a chance to take photos in any region I have a listing of requests here: Commons:Commons:Picture_requests/Requests/North_America#Mexico - I have some in Guadalajara and some smaller cities too! WhisperToMe (talk) 23:18, 26 May 2014 (UTC)

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