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*'''[[:Newport High Street railway station]] → [[:Newport railway station]]''' —(''[[Talk:Newport High Street railway station#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— Per [[WP:DAB]], clearly the "primary use" of the name --[[Special:Contributions/81.110.106.169|81.110.106.169]] ([[User talk:81.110.106.169|talk]]) 19:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
*'''[[:Newport High Street railway station]] → [[:Newport railway station]]''' —(''[[Talk:Newport High Street railway station#Requested move 6/2006|Discuss]]'')— Per [[WP:DAB]], clearly the "primary use" of the name --[[Special:Contributions/81.110.106.169|81.110.106.169]] ([[User talk:81.110.106.169|talk]]) 19:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*:Also [[:Newport (Essex) railway station]] → [[:Newport railway station, Essex]] per [[WP:NC]] patterns established in [[WP:PLACES]], [[WP:NCGN]] and [[WP:NCCITY]] for naming places, as well as consistency with other entries on the [[Newport station]] dab page. [[Special:Contributions/81.110.106.169|81.110.106.169]] ([[User talk:81.110.106.169|talk]]) 19:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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*'''[[:Turkish British]] → [[:British Turks]]''' —(''[[Talk:Turkish British#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— It looks as though 'British Turks' is the commonest name for this group, rather than 'Turkish British'. A Google search for "British Turks" gets 9,000 hits [http://www.google.ca/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=%22british%20turks%22-wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw]; although "Turkish British" gets 12,000 hits, almost all seem to be in unrelated phrases such as "Turkish-British negotiations" [http://www.google.ca/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=%22turkish%20british%22-wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw], so the number referring to the ethnic group is probably low. It therefore looks as though the page should be called "British Turks", but feedback would be helpful. --[[User:Cop 663|Cop 663]] ([[User talk:Cop 663|talk]]) 13:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
*'''[[:Turkish British]] → [[:British Turks]]''' —(''[[Talk:Turkish British#Requested move|Discuss]]'')— It looks as though 'British Turks' is the commonest name for this group, rather than 'Turkish British'. A Google search for "British Turks" gets 9,000 hits [http://www.google.ca/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=%22british%20turks%22-wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw]; although "Turkish British" gets 12,000 hits, almost all seem to be in unrelated phrases such as "Turkish-British negotiations" [http://www.google.ca/search?gbv=2&hl=en&q=%22turkish%20british%22-wikipedia&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=iw], so the number referring to the ethnic group is probably low. It therefore looks as though the page should be called "British Turks", but feedback would be helpful. --[[User:Cop 663|Cop 663]] ([[User talk:Cop 663|talk]]) 13:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Requested moves is a process for requesting the retitling (moving) of an article, template, or project page on Wikipedia. For retitling files, categories and other items, see When not to use this page.
Please read the article titling policy and the guideline regarding primary topics before moving a page or requesting a page move.
Any autoconfirmed user can use the Move function to perform most moves (see Help:How to move a page). If you have no reason to expect a dispute concerning a move, be bold and move the page. However, it may not always be possible or desirable to do this:
- Technical reasons may prevent a move; for example, a page may already exist at the target title and require deletion, or the page may be protected from moves. See: § Requesting technical moves.
- Requests to revert recent, undiscussed, controversial moves may be made at WP:RM/TR. If the new name has not become the stable title, the undiscussed move will be reverted. If the new name has become the stable title, a requested move will be needed to determine the article's proper location.
- A title may be disputed, and discussion may be necessary to reach consensus: see § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves. The requested moves process is not mandatory, and sometimes an informal discussion at the article's talk page can help reach consensus.
- A page should not be moved and a new move discussion should not be opened when there is already an open move request on a talk page. Instead, please participate in the open discussion.
- Unregistered and new (not yet autoconfirmed) users are unable to move pages.
Requests are generally processed after seven days. If consensus to move the page is reached at or after this time, a reviewer will carry out the request. If there is a consensus not to move the page, the request will be closed as "not moved". When consensus remains unclear, the request may be relisted to allow more time for consensus to develop, or the discussion may be closed as "no consensus". See Wikipedia:Requested moves/Closing instructions for more details on the process.
Wikipedia:Move review can be used to contest the outcome of a move request as long as all steps are followed. If a discussion on the closer's talk page does not resolve an issue, then a move review will evaluate the close of the move discussion to determine whether or not the contested close was reasonable and consistent with the spirit and intent of common practice, policies, and guidelines.
When not to use this page
Separate processes exist for moving certain types of pages, and for changes other than page moves:
- Making an uncontroversial move – if you can, be bold and do it yourself! If you can't, see § Requesting technical moves.
- Renaming a category – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming a stub template – propose the move at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion.
- Renaming an image or other file – see Wikipedia:Moving a page § Moving a file page.
- Moves from draft namespace or user space to article space – Unconfirmed users: add
{{subst:submit}}
to the top of the article. See Wikipedia:Articles for creation. Confirmed users: Move the page yourself. - Merging two articles – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed mergers, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Splitting an article – make a request at Wikipedia:Proposed article splits, or be bold and do it yourself.
- Requesting that page histories be merged – list them at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge.
- Contesting a move request close – use the Wikipedia:Move review process.
Undiscussed moves
Autoconfirmed editors may move a page without discussion if all of the following apply:
- No article exists at the new target title;
- There has been no previous discussion about the title of the page that expressed any objection to a new title; and
- It seems unlikely that anyone would reasonably disagree with the move.
If you disagree with a prior bold move, and the new title has not been in place for a long time, you may revert the move yourself. If you cannot revert the move for technical reasons, then you may request a technical move.
Move wars are disruptive, so if you make a bold move and it is reverted, do not make the move again. Instead, follow the procedures laid out in § Requesting controversial and potentially controversial moves.
Uncontroversial proposals
Only list proposals here that are clearly uncontroversial but require administrator help to complete (for example, spelling and capitalization fixes). Do not list a proposed page move in this section if there is any possibility that it could be opposed by anyone. Please list new requests at the bottom of the list in this section and use {{subst:RMassist|Old page name|Requested name|Reason for move}} rather than copying previous entries. The template will automatically include your signature. No edits to the article's talk page are required.
If you object to a proposal listed here, please re-list it in the #Incomplete and contested proposals section below.
Incomplete and contested proposals
With the exception of a brief description of the problem or objection to the move request, please do not discuss move requests here. If you support an incomplete or contested move request, please consider following the instructions above to create a full move request, and move the discussion to the "Other Proposals" section below. Requests that remain incomplete after five days will be removed.
- Monster Park → Candlestick Park — In Feburary it was announced Candlestick Park would be returning as the name of this stadium in June. We're in June, name change has been completed and stadium is now Candlestick Park again. — Gateman1997 (talk) 17:20, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 19:08, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Łukta (village) → Łukta — no need for disambiguating tag — Kotniski (talk) 10:55, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have restored Łukta to a disambig. The move requested here would leave no link to Łukta (municipality). Note: Łukta (municipality) redirects to Gmina Łukta, but "Gmina" is Polish for "municipality", not part of a placename. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, Gmina Łukta is the name of the municipality (the adopted naming convention here is to use the Polish name - the other 2000-odd articles on gminas follow that rule too). So there's no need for a link to the redirect page Łukta (municipality) - the article Łukta (village) (subject of the move request) links prominently to Gmina Łukta which is equivalent. (The move would actually just bring these places into line with the standard setup for Polish districts.)--Kotniski (talk) 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- What about Łukta River? Hatnotes are generally sufficient for only two article that need to be disambiguated; when there are 3 or more, a dab page becomes necessary. Parsecboy (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well here there are only really two (village and river) - Gmina Łukta has a different name, and in any case is linked to at least twice from the village article.--Kotniski (talk) 16:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- What about Łukta River? Hatnotes are generally sufficient for only two article that need to be disambiguated; when there are 3 or more, a dab page becomes necessary. Parsecboy (talk) 16:28, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Well, Gmina Łukta is the name of the municipality (the adopted naming convention here is to use the Polish name - the other 2000-odd articles on gminas follow that rule too). So there's no need for a link to the redirect page Łukta (municipality) - the article Łukta (village) (subject of the move request) links prominently to Gmina Łukta which is equivalent. (The move would actually just bring these places into line with the standard setup for Polish districts.)--Kotniski (talk) 12:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- I have restored Łukta to a disambig. The move requested here would leave no link to Łukta (municipality). Note: Łukta (municipality) redirects to Gmina Łukta, but "Gmina" is Polish for "municipality", not part of a placename. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 11:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Iran Pro League → Persuab Gulf Cup —(Discuss)— This is the official name of the league. It was changed to Persian Gulf Cup by the IRIFF before the commencement of the Persian Gulf Cup 2006-07 season and is even stated in the official logo of the league (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Persian_Gulf_Cup_logo.jpg). It is also the direct translation of the Persian translation Template:PerB. --Princeofpersia1 (talk) 18:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Incomplete. JPG-GR (talk) 02:41, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Restated with apparent typos corrected: Iran Pro League → Persian Gulf Cup — (Discuss) — Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Sebastian (French electro artist) → SebastiAn — (Discuss) — The later page (the correct spelling) is a redirect to the former. A hatline linking to the "Sebastian" dab page should be sufficient for dab-issues — Sebisthlm (talk) 17:51, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Does WP:MOSTM apply here about the abnormal letter-casing? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:39, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Other proposals
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- Newport High Street railway station → Newport railway station —(Discuss)— Per WP:DAB, clearly the "primary use" of the name --81.110.106.169 (talk) 19:13, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Also Newport (Essex) railway station → Newport railway station, Essex per WP:NC patterns established in WP:PLACES, WP:NCGN and WP:NCCITY for naming places, as well as consistency with other entries on the Newport station dab page. 81.110.106.169 (talk) 19:17, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Turkish British → British Turks —(Discuss)— It looks as though 'British Turks' is the commonest name for this group, rather than 'Turkish British'. A Google search for "British Turks" gets 9,000 hits [1]; although "Turkish British" gets 12,000 hits, almost all seem to be in unrelated phrases such as "Turkish-British negotiations" [2], so the number referring to the ethnic group is probably low. It therefore looks as though the page should be called "British Turks", but feedback would be helpful. --Cop 663 (talk) 13:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- List of the largest Protestant churches of the world → List of the largest Protestant church bodies of the world —(Discuss)— The current name sounds like it is a list of the Church (building)s -- which it is not. For example, neither...
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- ...are about church bodies (national churches or denominations).--Carlaude (talk) 14:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- China Railcom → China Tietong —(Discuss)— The China Tietong page was moved to China Railcom by User:Voidvector with the rationale "common name used by English news media". This is a false statement ("China Tietong" gets more than 10 times more hits on Google News), and even if it wasn't the page should still not have been moved as China Tietong is the official English name. --Ironfrost (talk) 13:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Intolerance → Intolerance (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Primary topic move; after the move, would redirect Intolerance to Toleration. --Russ (talk) 13:06, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Nixzmary Brown → Murder of Nixzmary Brown —(Discuss)— This article is not really about the person Nixzmary Brown, and in fact, outside of her death, she would be a non-notable person. The article is, in-depth, about her murder and subsequent trial. It needs to be moved to a page that is named to reflect the content of the article. --Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:30, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- (Discuss) —As per WP: Season naming, the articles should follow the other seasons' naming. The Mole (U.S. Season 1), The Mole (U.S. Season 3) and The Mole (U.S. Season 4) are already set, so Mole 2: The Next Betrayal should be moved to The Mole (U.S. Season 2) and The Mole (2008 US TV Series) should be moved to The Mole (U.S. Season 5). --S. Ellis (talk) 07:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Wikipedia:NPOV, V and OR → Wikipedia:Neutrality, verifiability, and nonoriginality —(Discuss)— Page is unpigeonholed former-policy spinout. Needs noncryptic title, Harvard comma --> , and also a bit more exposure, as I didn't want to proceed unilaterally yet. --JJB 04:54, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Mark Fraser (disambiguation) → Mark Fraser —(Discuss)— There is no primary usage for "Mark Fraser" so the disambiguation page should occupy "Mark Fraser" --Khatru2 (talk) 02:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Legend of the Glass Fleet → Glass Fleet —(Discuss)— I'm not exactly sure where the Legend of the part came from, but the literal translation of the Japanese title Garasu no Kantai is Glass Fleet. Glass Fleet is also the title used by Funimation, the English language licensor. --Farix (Talk) 21:48, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Railroad → Railroad (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— Another primary topic move, to permit redirecting this title to Rail transport. --Russ (talk) 15:30, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Albiano (TN) → Albiano — (Discuss) — Heh, complete coincidence that I came here at the same time as the previous Italy ones. This one's a bit different, as the most notable Albiano (a full comune) was "pushed" off Albiano by a minor village in Tuscany. I've now merged the Tuscan one into the appropriate comune article, so we just need to move Albiano (TN) to Albiano like it.wiki and others. FlagSteward (talk) 16:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC) — FlagSteward (talk) 16:40, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Or move Albiano (TN) to Albiano (Trento) and make Albiano into a disambig page between Albiano (Trento) and Albiano d'Ivrea and Albiano, Tuscany? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- That way gives you an unnecessarily disambiguated title (Trento) and given that the Tuscan one is now just a redirect, I don't think we need to disambiguate. All the other wikipedias have the Trento one at plain Albiano; IMO if the Italians don't feel the need to disambiguate then nor do we. FlagSteward (talk) 13:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Or move Albiano (TN) to Albiano (Trento) and make Albiano into a disambig page between Albiano (Trento) and Albiano d'Ivrea and Albiano, Tuscany? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:53, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Kosher → Kosher (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— To allow redirection of Kosher to Kashrut as the primary topic of the disambig page. --Russ (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- B1359+154 → QSO B1359+154 —(Discuss)— B1359+154 is just a set of coordinates, it refers to EVERYTHING or ANYTHING at that point in the sky. To indicate the quasar, it should be prefixed with "QSO", like at [3] --70.51.9.191 (talk) 09:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Anglo-Saxon runes → Futhorc —(Discuss)— Simplicity, elegance, and synonymy. "Anglo-Saxon runes" are the letters of an alphabet called Futhorc that this article discusses. --Srnec (talk) 05:12, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- General Officer → General officer —(Discuss)— Capitalization of non-proper noun in accordance with WP:NC; this was initially requested as non-controversial but has been relisted here due to controversy. --Russ (talk) 22:30, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Patapsco Light Rail Stop → Patapsco (Baltimore Light Rail station) —(Discuss)— Newer title is more consistent with other Baltimore Light Rail station articles --DanTD (talk) 21:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Hamburg Street Light Rail Stop → Hamburg Street (Baltimore Light Rail station)(currently a redirect) —(Discuss)— Newer title is more consistent with other Baltimore Light Rail station articles. ----DanTD (talk) 18:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Mark VIII → Mark VIII tank —(Discuss)— Current title is needed to complete an unbroken series of disambiguation pages. Up to now, a number of items that have been referred to as "Mark VIII" have been left out of disambiguation, including the Cromwell tank, the Harry Hopkins tank, a torpedo, a naval gun, a howitzer, a Spitfire variant, a Handley Page cargo plane, a Lincoln car, a computer, a calculator, etc. A move from Mark VIII (tank) to Mark VIII took place in February 2008 but reverting back to the (tank) nomenclature is perhaps unnecessary—there's already two other "Mark" tank pages that don't have parentheses: Mark I tank and Mark IX tank. --Binksternet (talk) 16:56, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Criticism of the Food and Drug Administration → Controversies involving the Food and Drug Administration —(Discuss)— Current title of article has POV issues. I have a WP:COI. The page is not particularly complete or active either way.Somedumbyankee (talk) 16:09, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Dore & Totley railway station → Dore and Totley railway station —(Discuss)— needs moving to as Dore and Totley railway station is the real name. It is nothing big but I cannot move it due to the page Dore and Totley railway station existing as a redirect page Year1989 (talk) 23:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- (I Wanna) Testify/I Can Feel The Ice Melting → (I Wanna) Testify —(Discuss)— Including the hyphen and B-side in the article name departs from song article naming conventions. --InnocuousPseudonym (talk) 07:33, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
- Technological escalation during World War II → Military research and development during World War II —(Discuss)— There is no usage of "Technological escalation" in available sources. The article can be used as the main article for the (to be created) category:Military research and development during World War II with some editing, expansion and sources added --mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 22:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Siam → Siam (disambiguation) —(Discuss)— To allow redirecting Siam to its primary topic, which is Thailand. --Russ (talk) 21:14, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Fluffing → Fluffer —(Discuss)— Per consensus at Talk:Fluffing#Unsourced.2FNotability.2FMove, Fluffing is transformed into a disambiguation page. --Cenarium (talk) 18:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Peter Mortimer → Peter Mortimer (footballer) —(Discuss)— Since there is a few people with the same name have articles it's best to make Peter Mortimer the disambiguation page --Bidgee (talk) 06:35, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Ray tracing (graphics) → Ray tracing —(Discuss)— Graphical ray tracing is a clear primary usage; [[Ray tracing]] should link directly to it, not a disambig page (which now has history). This is discussed in the article's talk page and on the talk page of the user who performed the move. --199.125.109.107 (talk) 06:06, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
- Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany compared → European fascist ideologies —(Discuss)— The article is largely about fascist ideology, and can probably be expanded to include non German or Italian proponents that were influenced by the two. It is not necessarily comparative. --mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 23:43, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Line of succession to the Bruneian Throne → Line of succession to the Bruneian throne —(Discuss)— Throne is not a a proper noun, so it shouldn't be capitalized. --Morhange (talk) 22:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC) Morhange (talk) 22:33, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- OCR (examination board) → Oxford, Cambridge and RSA Examinations —(Discuss)— As clearly stated in the naming conventions, acronyms should be at their spelled-out names (note that simply placing the article at OCR is not an option as it is already a disambiguation page). I did move the page myself, but User:Islander twice moved it back, saying that following Wikipedia guidelines is 'controversial' and must be discussed first! --Green Tentacle (talk) 20:20, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Quiz channel → Participation television —(Discuss)— The quiz channel genre, for years incorporated into the title of participation television by the UK communications regulator Ofcom[4]. At the moment, although quiz shows still run, channels and shows are moving towards casino and bingo programming. I feel that to cover these changes and as per Ofcom, it would be better to incorporate everything into an article named participation television with quiz channel as a redirect. ----tgheretford (talk) 16:04, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- NHH → Norwegian School of Economics and Business Administration —(Discuss)— Current title violates WP:ENGLISH, WP:ABBR and name convention of other business schools and Norwegian universities and colleges. Norwegian School of Economics and Business Administration is the official, English name of the school. --Arsenikk (talk) 11:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (2009 film) → Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (film) —(Discuss)— I propose that this article be moved to Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (film) because the article has been created, and doesn't need to redirect anymore. Also, there is no other Prince of Persia film, and that page should be the home of this article. Therefore, I feel that there is no reason why this article should remain here, when that page title is available --EclipseSSD (talk) 11:16, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Tierra del Fuego, Antarctica, and South Atlantic Islands Province → Tierra del Fuego Province (Argentina) —(Discuss)— I believe the widely used English-language name for the province is "Tierra del Fuego" (as discussed on the talk page) and my proposed name follows the pattern of Argentine provinces whose names are also used for in other countries' provinces (in this case Chile). --Pfainuk talk 10:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- List of musical works in unusual time signatures → List of musical works notated with unusual time signatures —(Discuss)— The current majority opinion on the talk page is that pieces must be notated to be listed. Hyacinth (talk) 06:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC) --Hyacinth (talk) 06:37, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- Kingsford Smith International Airport → Sydney Airport —(Discuss)— The name of the airport is Sydney Airport. An alternative name, in which it may have previously been called is Kingsford Smith International Airport. The Kingsford Smith name appears to be much like the alternative name of Melbourne Airport, Tullamarine Airport. MEL's article is called Melbourne Airport. The website proclaims the name as Sydney Airport and the parent company is called Sydney Airport Corporation Limited. The media refers it to Sydney Airport. --Mvjs (talk) 21:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
- (Discuss) The articles listed below are currently double-named (with combinations of two language versions of the placename), which is confusing and against guidelines. Propose to replace each one with a single name. (See the discussion for more details.) Kotniski (talk) 17:30, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
- Zeroconf → Zero configuration networking —(Discuss)— As the introduction notes, the article is about a set of techniques involving multiple and sometimes competing protocols and technologies. The current name, possibly originating from an IETF working group, is an abbreviation which gives the impression of being the name of a specific product or piece of technology. --72.244.201.28 (talk) 16:40, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
Backlog
Move dated sections here after five days have passed (October 30 or older).
- Colombia-India relations → Indo-Colombian relations —(Discuss)— 1) Read Wikipedia:WikiProject International relations guidelines. 2) Maintain uniformity among India-related bilateral relation articles 3) No balanced view was sought before previous "consensus" was achieved. 4) Have cited other reasons on talkpage --AI009 (talk) 07:08, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
- Three-state logic → Tri-state logic —(Discuss)— more industry-correct term, more frequently used --Jheiv (talk) 03:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)