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Hi there. You pinged in IRC? Did you have a question about the upload form or did you figure it out already? --[[User:KFP|KFP]] <small>([[User talk:KFP|contact]] - [[Special:Contributions/KFP|edits]])</small> 16:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC) |
Hi there. You pinged in IRC? Did you have a question about the upload form or did you figure it out already? --[[User:KFP|KFP]] <small>([[User talk:KFP|contact]] - [[Special:Contributions/KFP|edits]])</small> 16:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC) |
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I am sorry but this whole George Ho thing,he also uses the name Gh87 is a load of bull in my opinion. User George Ho knows exactly what he is doing,which is he is being nothing but a technical smart alek. All George ho does is add tags to articles and nominate articles for deletion. He knows exactly what he is doing. I do not believe he is Autistic either,that was just a ploy so you all would feel sorry for him. I mean George ho has what,6 mentors and not one of the six or so mentors can make him understand what he is doing wrong? No one is that stupid that they would not understand when they have a group of mentors telling them what they did wrong.That should tell you something right there,that his mentors cannot even make him understand. He has a personal vendetta against soap operas and I am sick of everyone Molly-coddling him. Please just ban user George ho,or do not allow him to add tags to everything or nominate articles for deletion. I am telling you he is playing a game with you,even when multiple people explain his wrongdoings to him,he just skirts around the issue by asking questions--[[Special:Contributions/74.179.215.67|74.179.215.67]] ([[User talk:74.179.215.67|talk]]) 05:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC) |
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You'd be doing us all a big favour if you simply added rationales yourself seems as you seem to dedicate your time to tagging images...♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:17, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Excuse me? I did not upload the first versions, as you have done it. No offense, but I don't want to do other people's dirty work and to clean people's mistakes. Why don't you provide a rationale yourself? --George Ho (talk) 20:23, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Primarily because those images were uploaded at a time when image rationales were not common place everywhere. As for your prodding of articles. One word. Irritating. If you are convinced they are not notable take them to AFD and notify me about it and we'll let the community decide. But you're wasting your time as the vast majority of Argentine film articles need expansion... And you are doing little to help wikipedia. If you don't want to do other people's dirty work and to clean people's mistakes then I suggest you pick a more self-rewarding task like expanding articles you are interested in. For somebody who doesn't like cleaning up mess you are sure doing an ill-suited task on wikipedia. Oh and if you're thinking about getting shirty with me and spamming me more messages you've picked the wrong guy to wind up.♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- Look, I have been enforced to notify you about images that will be soon deleted. If you don't want me to give you notifications about deletion, fine. I will still tag them for deletion. --George Ho (talk) 20:35, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
You haven't been enforced to do anything!!! You've chosen to be disagreeable and try to delete valid images which could easily be put right in just seconds using some script. Instead you choose to annoy editor by drilling them generic messages and making zilch effort to try to salvage any of them Its only a matter of time before somebody else complains about you. What you are doing is of no help for wikipedia whatsoever... ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:43, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
- You have created articles, whose topics< such as films have not meet WP:GNG. You have created images and considered drawings or posters as part of photos, which they do not define as photo. Just go somewhere else, and let me do my work. I'm very busy. --George Ho (talk) 20:47, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Absolutely not. You are not doing work. You are causing disruption by trying to delete content which could be reasonably improved or expanded. When you mess with something I've uploaded or created you are messing with me and I won't let it rest until you do the decent thing and start treating wikipedia as an ongoing good faith progressive development. Believe you me I will make things bitterly difficult for you to the point you will no longer want to continue if you decide to become purely deletionist as you clearly haven't the best interests of the project at heart. Yes, some images may not be photographs and not apply for PD and yes some articles are short but have you even considered that they could be fixed or improved? You have a problem with them, why don't you fix them? ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:54, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Someone needs to arrange a ban for George Ho. This guy is extremely unprofessional and seems determined to disrupt the community. 68.147.236.21 (talk) 06:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Hey hey hey. Look at User:George Ho/Block History #1 before you post further. --George Ho (talk) 06:34, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
Stop tagging png files NOW please
See comments just arriving on mentorship page. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:02, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- Not a promising start. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:16, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
Moonriddengirl says thanks
Noticed this at Moonriddengirl's talkpage, and thought it would be nice to post something nice for you. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 00:24, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
- That's one of the nice things about Wikipedia. When you do something to help, it echoes, and can come back to you in all sorts of good ways. I've been away for Christmas, so sorry I've not been around for a couple of days - things seem to be going reasonably well here, though - which makes me happy. Begoon talk 04:22, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Wendy Richard Bill Treacher Pauline Fowler Arthur Fowler BBC.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Wendy Richard Bill Treacher Pauline Fowler Arthur Fowler BBC.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 04:15, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free image File:Wendy Richard Pauline Fowler BBC 2006.jpg
Thanks for uploading File:Wendy Richard Pauline Fowler BBC 2006.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk aboutabout my edits? 06:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Pauline Fowler
Since when have I gone to any trouble to replace File:Wendy Richard Pauline Fowler BBC 2006.jpg with File:Pauline Fowler.jpg? Have you got the right user? TrebleSeven (talk) 22:00, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Care to elaborate "right user"? I uploaded the 2006 image first and made rationale that treats Pauline Fowler and Wendy Richard as the same. However, I did ask, and I don't know what else to say anymore. I waited, and I was not notified about this. Both images are under review. --George Ho (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- George, have you left TrebleSeven a note about this file? You have the wrong user. See File:Pauline_Fowler.jpg. The chap you want is User:GSorby Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have already talked to GSorby. --George Ho (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Look, I have never even heard of Pauline Fowler. You have obviously got the wrong user. Have a look at my edit history if you don't believe me. TrebleSeven (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- I believe you; you might have miscommunicated and assumed that I was discussing with you and was referring you as an uploader. Actually, I was talking to GSorby instead of you. That's it. --George Ho (talk) 20:00, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Look, I have never even heard of Pauline Fowler. You have obviously got the wrong user. Have a look at my edit history if you don't believe me. TrebleSeven (talk) 17:29, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have already talked to GSorby. --George Ho (talk) 22:48, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- George, have you left TrebleSeven a note about this file? You have the wrong user. See File:Pauline_Fowler.jpg. The chap you want is User:GSorby Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:45, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
So what are exactly the issues with this article? It's hard to justify the maintenance of a tag on top of an article when we don't have any exemples or justification left on the article's talk page. Farine (talk) 08:11, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm not sure how to explain this: this article may contain original research because the source is itself the show possibly. The show is the primary source, and the secondary, third-party, and/or independent sources must verify any entry that are consisted. If it doesn't contain original research, the sources are too insufficient to verify all the entries consisted in this article. How important are theme sequences, according to non-primary sources? Are sources active or inactive? Why should this article consist of any entry? How relevant is any entry? --George Ho (talk) 08:16, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Then if you find any inappropriate content, by all means, place a citation tag next to need it or just delete the troubled content. But that awful template on top of the article is really akward for an article that does not seems to have much issues as far as I'm concerned. The only primary sources I see on the article is the location where the show was taped which is perfectly acceptable as per WP:PRIMARY
- ...Let's talk more at Talk:As the World Turns. --George Ho (talk) 09:06, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Then if you find any inappropriate content, by all means, place a citation tag next to need it or just delete the troubled content. But that awful template on top of the article is really akward for an article that does not seems to have much issues as far as I'm concerned. The only primary sources I see on the article is the location where the show was taped which is perfectly acceptable as per WP:PRIMARY
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[1] Begoon talk 00:20, 7 January 2012 (UTC) |
Soap Opera photos
Hi George,
Have added some new photos at Commons:
- File:General Hospital John Beradino 1964.JPG
- File:One Life to Live scene 1972.JPG
- File:One Life to Live Wolek wedding 1977.JPG
The two here are composite photos; I just uploaded them without separating them. If you want to separate, please do, or if you want me to do it, please let me know.
- File:Emily McLaughlin John Beradino General Hospital 1967.JPG
- File:One Life to Live characters 1973.JPG
Thanks, We hope (talk) 19:22, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
Non-free image
A you now know non-free images can be a bit of a minefield. Good luck and keep up the work which can be rather thankless. ww2censor (talk) 02:15, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Delete previous versions of this file
Hello George Ho. I was just wondering if you could delete the previous versions of the following file File:Google_maps_screenshot.png? Thanks for the help. TrebleSeven (talk) 15:21, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
- Ahem! I'm not an administrator and have no power to do so. Maybe you can wait and be patient until then... --George Ho (talk) 15:30, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
David Wicks
Hi George, I couldn't help notice that you changed the duration of the David Wicks article to read 2012 only. Now, while we all KNOW that David will be leaving EastEnders in a few days time again, we haven't had any official source to confirm that. Yes, David is only appearing in the spoilers for the next few days, and yes we know that the actor Michael French is continuing to appear in Casualty. But still we have no source. Bleaney (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- We still have no source on his staying either. This is January 2012; we haven't reached December 2012 yet. --George Ho (talk) 19:42, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- Why do this?? Please dont start getting the EE editors backs up as well George, why dont you try to source your edits instead. Bleaney (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- Why not you? By the way, I am discussing this in Talk:David Wicks. --George Ho (talk) 19:48, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- Why do this?? Please dont start getting the EE editors backs up as well George, why dont you try to source your edits instead. Bleaney (talk) 19:43, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
RFC
George - I thought we were going to agree on the RFC question before you created the RFC? Your question seems fine to me, I'd only play with the wording a bit, but that's not important. Hopefully Green Cardamom approves of your question too. Begoon talk 22:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
10 Possible AFD Candinates.
Hi George! Ive seen youve sent a shudder through all the soap articles lately! Now, im not an expert at AFD (these could be perfectly fine articles, I just dont know) so this is why ive asked you to have a look into these articles, :)
- Tony Discipline- Only notable for one role (EastEnders), the TV Appearances have all been for EastEnders. Done
- Sam Marshall.
- Charlotte Adams (Home and Away)
- Lucinda Croft
- Simon Fitzgerald (Home and Away)
- Matt Wilson (Home and Away)
Put a talkback on my talk when you reply!-- MayhemMario 20:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- The one youve added to Tony is wrong (I think), the article does have references. The tag at the top says it does. MayhemMario 20:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've removed the IMDB because it's unreliable and WP:SPS. Also, the content may be also seen in tyler Moon. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 20:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Literally, the info on Tony is the same (nearly word for word) as Tyler. MayhemMario 20:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- That guy is 22 years old, and EastEnders is his first tv role. We'll wait for his future credentials. --George Ho (talk) 20:47, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I have recently redirected the actor to the fictional character. Any objections? --George Ho (talk) 20:54, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Literally, the info on Tony is the same (nearly word for word) as Tyler. MayhemMario 20:42, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've removed the IMDB because it's unreliable and WP:SPS. Also, the content may be also seen in tyler Moon. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 20:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- I do feel that the making of the article was premature, so no objections. What about the others? MayhemMario 20:56, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
-- MayhemMario 20:31, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Quick comment. There are quite a few sources around for Lucas Holden and he's been on my to-do list for a while. Once I've finished working on my current project, I'll sort him out. Rain might have some book sources for some the other characters. I do know there doesn't appear to be any sources for Damian and the article probably shouldn't have been created in the first place. - JuneGloom Talk 20:59, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Oh, Henry Hunter could probably be redirected to one of his parents or the past characters list. I don't think there will be much argument there. - JuneGloom Talk 21:10, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- George, let all the ones which June mentioned she will be doing above slip for a while, thanks MayhemMario 21:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Georgo HO - there isn't much point in ridding of these. You can see that me and JuneGloom are working on adding sources to Home and Away topics, if some are not notable - which a few are not - they can be redirected to a list no problem. You've nominated Sam Marshall - a regular character in the series for years and actually had big storylines. You claim to have looked for sources for this character in the AFD - but at the same time state he may be a recurring character - when he was a series regular for many years.Rain the 1 21:20, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Still... ...Anyway, just make a point in that AFD. --George Ho (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- You are being unfair by going around nominating, proding, speedying - You must know by now that both myself and JuneGloom work hard on improving these article. If we say we shall get around to it, why carry on. You do not have much good faith in soap editors.Rain the 1 21:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- How so? I mean... prove that I'm not faithful to soap editors; well, I'm not that unfaithful. Actually, I have no faith on articles that do not have reception and impact sections. Look at Sam Malone and Diane Chambers; I'm working on it. They are not soap opera couple, but they are easier to research because many sources cover it. Look at Nikki Alvarez; I found no significant coverages to determine notability. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 21:51, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Damien Roberts" is deleted per G4. To be honest, I did not mean to put you under a lot of stress; I don't know what words coming from my heart, but I feel sorry for you. If you want me to contest the deletion with WP:DELREV, then say so; otherwise, let's move on. By the way, look at Ashley Cotton; the article of the one-year character was close to being deleted until somebody added balance from reality. What about Sam Marshall to you? --George Ho (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- I didn't come here to talk about those and they have no relation to what to the articles Mario linked. I'm sorry, but I have helped you numerous times - and the next day you nominate something else notable without carrying out a search of sources. I'm all for an AFD providing the subject does not pass WP:GNG. Also, I know it is not your intention to stress anyone out as I know you are trying to sort articles out. All I ask is instead of nominating a bulk in a ten minute period and assess the situation.Rain the 1 22:30, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- "Damien Roberts" is deleted per G4. To be honest, I did not mean to put you under a lot of stress; I don't know what words coming from my heart, but I feel sorry for you. If you want me to contest the deletion with WP:DELREV, then say so; otherwise, let's move on. By the way, look at Ashley Cotton; the article of the one-year character was close to being deleted until somebody added balance from reality. What about Sam Marshall to you? --George Ho (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- How so? I mean... prove that I'm not faithful to soap editors; well, I'm not that unfaithful. Actually, I have no faith on articles that do not have reception and impact sections. Look at Sam Malone and Diane Chambers; I'm working on it. They are not soap opera couple, but they are easier to research because many sources cover it. Look at Nikki Alvarez; I found no significant coverages to determine notability. What do you think? --George Ho (talk) 21:51, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- You are being unfair by going around nominating, proding, speedying - You must know by now that both myself and JuneGloom work hard on improving these article. If we say we shall get around to it, why carry on. You do not have much good faith in soap editors.Rain the 1 21:45, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Still... ...Anyway, just make a point in that AFD. --George Ho (talk) 21:22, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Don't worry, I won't nominate any other article right now if reality and fiction are balanced, especially after PROD tags are removed. To imply, do you want me to have the deletion discussion of Damien Roberts reviewed in WP:DELREV? I can't remember how you have helped me, but have I let you down or anything like that? --George Ho (talk) 22:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm going to have to strongly concur with Raintheone. I thought we'd settled this matter, with even one of your mentors weighing in, at WP:SOAPS. It was supposed to have been settled before you were unblocked. Why are you nominating articles like Ethan Cambias for deletion when you can just redirect them to related or list articles? And, yes, biography list articles for fictional characters often don't have to provide notability. Flyer22 (talk) 23:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- There is not much point in a deletion review for Damian because I only wanted it to serve as a redirect.Rain the 1 23:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, to all three of you, I really didnt mean for this to be a big problem. I just gave a list of articles which looked bad to George. Didnt even look for soruces, ect. MayhemMario 16:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Well then, if you could avoid giving George lists of articles that (as is apparent in the conversation) even you don't think should be AfD'd, and asking him if he would AfD them (which he reads as "will you now go and put Afd tags on them"), and do your own nominations based on your own opinion, that would be a helluva lot more helpful. Thanks. Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, to all three of you, I really didnt mean for this to be a big problem. I just gave a list of articles which looked bad to George. Didnt even look for soruces, ect. MayhemMario 16:41, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- There is not much point in a deletion review for Damian because I only wanted it to serve as a redirect.Rain the 1 23:17, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
George, I'm not going to revert you on this, but I want to ask why you felt the need to change the image? I know that one of your mentors (Elen of the Roads) stated that "The NFCC guidelines overall prefer publicity stills (not images from the likes of Getty or Associated Press, but from the company or individual) to screenshots." in the Requests for comment discussion, but that doesn't mean that you should replace acceptable images. The image you added is a large image of Gellar's face, and therefore seems disproportionate to Alicia Minshew's. I prefer images that at least show a good portion of the shoulders or whole body anyway. I may later trade out the image you uploaded for a different image. Flyer22 (talk) 23:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- If you do that, I want sources. --George Ho (talk) 23:46, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
- (edit conflict)I did this because the previous image's source... well, I didn't like the screenshot image. The image's VHS resolution was... not that crisp. Mine is crispier. Why preferring the whole body to the whole face? What's the big deal? --George Ho (talk) 00:12, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- Actually Flyer, I'm with George on this one. The previous image was a head shot, quite unlike the Alicia image. This one is crisper and a better image generally. You could take the discussion back to the talkpage if there are others who might express an opinion. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:57, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
- I can see what Flyer is saying about the framing of the headshot - it's not the best framing I've ever seen, but the image is far and away better quality. I don't agree that it alters the "balance" between the 2 images. There never was any "balance" to speak of between a "most of body" and a headshot. I agree with Elen that you should discuss on the talkpage. If there's an even better image around, or one comes to light later, then great - but for the meantime, I'd be in favour of George's change, too. Begoon talk 00:31, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
- George, I don't understand why you said you want sources. The only source needed, if any, is the website where I found the image, and the picture I uploaded came with a source...no matter if the source is not the best. It's not like any of these sites, other than ABC, hold the copyrights to these images. That's why they're called non-free. My information-formatting wasn't the best, but that's because I was a new Wikipedia editor when I uploaded that image. Why a whole-body shot or at least a half-body shot over a face shot? Because it presents more of the character's image. The same reason they are preferred for biographies of real people. You can't always get an idea of a character or person's body size from just a face shot, which can therefore be deceptive. I'm just saying that, in this case, I would have preferred you uploaded a shot that displays more than just the face.
- Elen and Begoon, I'm not disputing that George's image is of better quality than the one I uploaded years ago. I am disputing George changing long-standing images when they are fine/acceptable. If I should discuss before changing his new image, then he should have discussed before changing the long-standing one. Unless a long-standing image is an image violation or is in dire need of change, I don't necessarily see a need for a change. There was no image violation or dire need of change in this case. To me, there was more balance with the previous image. Yes, it was also a headshot, but it was not a huge headshot and showed a good portion of her shoulders. I'd intended to upload an image (of Gellar) that created true balance, but I obviously never got around to that. And now George's image has made the inbalance worse, in my opinion. Flyer22 (talk) 00:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've contributed hundreds of images to Wikipedia, including images uploaded by others that I've been asked to improve. Every few days, it seems, one of those images is replaced somewhere, or another user edits an image I provided. When that happens, I don't always necessarily see the need for change, either. But someone obviously does, or the change would not be made. After a while I realised it's just the same as people editing the textual content I've provided - just the way things work. So, when it comes to the need for discussion about changes to images, I just apply WP:BRD like any other edit - and that is what I would have done here had I seen this change and disagreed with it. That's pretty much what is happening except you were, additionally, polite enough to discuss before reverting, which is something I often try to do if I can, too, as best practice. The discussion might get more relevant eyes on the article talk page, was my main hope, in mentioning discussion - not an implication that anyone was doing anything wrong, or a suggestion of different requirements for different editors. If one of the things George enjoys doing is finding better images to use then that should be no different to an editor who copyedits and improves content he thinks could be better written. Begoon talk 02:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for explaining your stance about discussion and giving insight into your experience with such matters. I agree. I'm not in a hurry to change George's image. I just wanted to let him know why I disagreed with his change and that I may later change it. Thank you. Both you and Elen, and your continual mentorship of George. Flyer22 (talk) 16:33, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've contributed hundreds of images to Wikipedia, including images uploaded by others that I've been asked to improve. Every few days, it seems, one of those images is replaced somewhere, or another user edits an image I provided. When that happens, I don't always necessarily see the need for change, either. But someone obviously does, or the change would not be made. After a while I realised it's just the same as people editing the textual content I've provided - just the way things work. So, when it comes to the need for discussion about changes to images, I just apply WP:BRD like any other edit - and that is what I would have done here had I seen this change and disagreed with it. That's pretty much what is happening except you were, additionally, polite enough to discuss before reverting, which is something I often try to do if I can, too, as best practice. The discussion might get more relevant eyes on the article talk page, was my main hope, in mentioning discussion - not an implication that anyone was doing anything wrong, or a suggestion of different requirements for different editors. If one of the things George enjoys doing is finding better images to use then that should be no different to an editor who copyedits and improves content he thinks could be better written. Begoon talk 02:04, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
AFD stats
Hi George. It occurred to me that you might not be aware of the tool ScottyWong created for viewing stats of your AFD votes. I find it handy to look at to get an overview of my contributions there (not that I make many xFD contributions...). It's at [2]. Apologies if you already were aware of it. Begoon talk 03:34, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
I restored the old revisions. Note that it did not log the action (another software bug). BTW, I don't know why they were unwilling to undelete at WP:REFUND; it was a trivial action. Maxim(talk) 03:46, 18 January 2012 (UTC)
Storm in a teacup
Probably start class right now, owing to lack of content. For what it's worth, PR is usually used for articles aimed at GA or FA. --Sarastro1 (talk) 18:38, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
October 2011 peer reviews
Back in October 2011 you started a number of peer reviews and never finished them. I have been cleaning them up - see Talk:Luke and Laura or Talk:List of Three's Company episodes for two examples. Can I please ask you not to do this in the future - in October 2011 peer reviews were limited to 4 per editor at a time, and the expectation is that if you open a peer review, you go on to properly do so (not just add the template to a talk page) and you are serious about following through and doing the work to fix the article. Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 16:23, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
AFD's
I think it is fair to say that you have been dishonest in AFD nominations. You keep claiming no sources are being found, but I keep having a quick browse on random AFD's you notify WP:SOAPS about - and find some on the first page of a google search. I've done this quite a few times now. I'm sorry but nominating a character who was on television for forty years and claiming zero notability is questionable. I'm sure that would pass GNG atleast. The series the character is from is aired in many countries around the globe. That just heightens the potential of sources being found, after all the character has been around enough to get coverage. I've made a plea to you before, to carry out these searches before nominating. However, it just appears that you are claiming you have and found no results returned. I'm not saying each soap opera character is notable, but when their is solid potential - you could consider merging. Something else that is not sitting quite right with me; the fact you said you plan to remove all the soap opera articles possible, then concentrate on removing lists. Flyer was correct in stating at AFD/Ethan Cambias, that such a statement just validates what soap opera editors think.Rain the 1 19:25, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- What do you want me to say: I have done a poor research effort? I'm using poor excuses to validate my claims? I have to let bad editors infringe Soapcentral? I have to risk further bad editings by merging/redirecting without deletion nominations? That I want to erase soap elements because soaps are the past yet no efforts to historicize soaps are done or appropiate? What else do you want me to say? --George Ho (talk) 21:45, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Please don't see this as an intrusion, but can we also have a discussion about this on the mentorship page? Not urgent, and I've had a loss in the family, so won't be around much for a couple of days - but it does strike me that there might be benefit in a bit of focus, away from the "fray", in due course. Begoon talk 09:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Please note that I have removed the merger proposal that you have placed on the article because its use never was justified on the article's talk page. If you feel its presence is still needed, please explain it on the discussion page. But I doubt that such proposal will ever be approved by the soap opera community, especially that all soap operas have separate articles for cast members and characters. So why it should it be different for All My Children?
Thank you. Farine (talk) 07:36, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- I have discussed this in Talk:List of All My Children characters recently. --George Ho (talk) 07:41, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
Peer review limits changed
This is a notice to all users who currently have at least one open peer review at Wikipedia:Peer review. Because of the large number of peer review requests and relatively low number of reviewers, the backlog of PRs has been at 20 or more almost continually for several months. The backlog is for PR requests which have gone at least four days without comments, and some of these have gone two weeks or longer waiting for a review.
While we have been able to eventually review all PRs that remain on the backlog, something had to change. As a result of the discussion here, the consensus was that all users are now limited to one (1) open peer review request.
If you already have more than one open PR, that is OK in this transition period, but you cannot open any more until all your active PR requests have been closed. If you would like someone to close a PR for you, please ask at Wikipedia talk:Peer review. If you want to help with the backlog, please review an article whoe PR request is listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog/items. Thanks, Ruhrfisch ><>°° 02:03, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
Re:File
George, you don't need to delete it, just to change the FUR to a free use one and the license to PD. We hope (talk) 17:06, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Actually, I was going to upload it to Commons without the need to change it to free in the English Wiki; in fact, I'm going to upload it.. --George Ho (talk) 17:10, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
No problem ;-)We hope (talk) 17:13, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
I note that you have again nominated for AfD a well-referenced article which does not have any appreciable support. I am concerned that you are continuing to demonstrate poor comprehension of encyclopedic content and the use of deletion processes. Jclemens (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
George, per my earlier suggestion above, and the concerns here, I think it's a good idea if we have this conversation on your "mentorship" page before you make any more xFD nominations. Sorry, but this is becoming a concern, now. Begoon talk 02:51, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Hello George Ho, just to let you know, the file page you created at File:Spring in a Small Town poster.jpg does not have a file. If the commons file is deleted, it will leave behind a blank English Wikipedia description page. In order to upload the file locally, you need to use Special:Upload. Thank you, Alpha_Quadrant (talk) 04:14, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
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You should keep an eye on this redirect if it's not on your watchlist already. User:708heytony has restored it twice now, once as an IP and then under the 708heytony user name. Flyer22 (talk)
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Maharis
Thanks for your work on the George Maharis article. I have no objection whatsoever to the problematic material having been removed under WP:BLP. I'm not an active editor anymore, so I only just saw your note about this today. Karen | Talk | contribs 01:59, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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Block an IP address
Hey, can you please block IP address: 75.72.241.244. See what the person did to this article. The person keeps adding FOX as part of the 2011–2012 United States network television weekday schedule, but FOX is not part of the big three networks. FOX does not even broadcast daytime television. I have the proof that FOX really does not broadcast daytime television right here ----> Fox Broadcasting Company#Programming I would like you to block the person, please. Thank you. Mr. Slinks (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- I have reported him in WP:AIV at your request. By the way, I'm not an administrator. --George Ho (talk) 22:10, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, George. Thanks for your report at AIV, but for your future reference Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring would be a better place for 3RR reports. Edit warring is not vandalism so much as it is a content dispute. Let me know if you have any questions. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
- Alright. Thanks for you help. Mr. Slinks (talk) 05:08, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
- Hi, George. Thanks for your report at AIV, but for your future reference Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring would be a better place for 3RR reports. Edit warring is not vandalism so much as it is a content dispute. Let me know if you have any questions. See ya 'round Tiderolls 22:33, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
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- Was being polite and following the "house rules" at the top of the page. :-) We hope (talk) 23:56, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's okay. I was just giving some advice, which you don't need to follow. Anyway, I'll know when you reply. --George Ho (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- FWIW, I just looked up the Elizabeth Ashley-Langdon photo and it was not copyrighted, so I'll get that onto Commons. Was very surprised not to find a lot more copyrights for him, since he's such a well-known photographer. We hope (talk) 00:08, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
- That's okay. I was just giving some advice, which you don't need to follow. Anyway, I'll know when you reply. --George Ho (talk) 00:01, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
All My Children undeletions
I have taken care of undeleting the histories for your latest requests. If you want more, feel free to contact me directly. It seems most admins don't understand the point of restoring the history. --ThaddeusB (talk) 05:02, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
Archive
Thanks for the email, George. Yes, that archive is getting a bit unwieldy, isn't it? If you want to split/organise it, please go ahead - that would be helpful. Thanks. Begoon talk 22:40, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
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DYK nomination of A Young Man's World
Hello! Your submission of A Young Man's World at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Lihaas (talk) 01:22, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
DYK readies?
Could you check off the DYK when you think its done with the symbol at the bottom of the edit page header? i believe your comment at the Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa is answered.Lihaas (talk) 08:40, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Where? I'm not an administrator, so I may tag one with DYKtickAGF. --George Ho (talk) 08:49, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
- Yep, reviewers do that regardless of admiin or not . When they efeel its ready ;)Lihaas (talk) 06:45, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
Sam and DIane
gave some suggestion thre, article needs some stuff answered but then you should have no probs moving to GA. well sourced though. Damn! no w i feel like watching them ;) Cant get a hold of the last episode without buying ALL the series ;)Lihaas (talk) 07:11, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
Arthur and Pauline Fowler redirects
I just declined your request at redirects for creation. Since you can create new articles by yourself, you can of course circumvent that page if you disagree with my rationale, but I'd advise two things: Firstly, as pointed out by GunGadin on Talk:Pauline Fowler#Should "Arthur and Pauline Fowler" has their own article?, many of the more exotic combinations you propose are unlikely to be used as search terms. Secondly, a Google search for Arthur and Pauline shows that the Fowlers actually do not generate the most first-page hits. Thus, someone searching for "Arthur and Pauline" may arguably be looking for someone else. "Pauline and Arthur" has the same problem to a somewhat lesser degree. If you still consider creation of these redirects a net benefit, please go ahead; once created I don't think they will get deleted again (because redirects are cheap, as Elonka pointed out). Huon (talk) 04:17, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- May I at least create Arthur Fowler and Pauline Fowler, Arthur and Pauline Fowler, Pauline and Arthur Fowler, Pauline Beale and Arthur Fowler, Arthur Fowler and Pauline Beale, and Pauline Fowler and Arthur Fowler without need of approval then? --George Ho (talk) 08:41, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
- As I said you can create them and don't need anybody's approval, but I think it's actually pretty hard to search for, say, "Pauline Fowler and Arthur Fowler" without stumbling about the article on Pauline Fowler in the process - and therefore I cannot imagine why we would need the redirect. Huon (talk) 09:50, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
Cheers for nominating that. I'll take a look at it and see if I can do something a bit more specific, although that could be difficult as the information about him is so general. The only time specific things I found about him were the All Ireland Quiz (which aired in 2008), and his various documentaries for TV3. Paul MacDermott (talk) 10:33, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for fixing the Irish Times link. Not sure how you got it but it seems to work now. Paul MacDermott (talk) 10:35, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
DYK for A Young Man's World
On 10 March 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article A Young Man's World, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that a review for the 2000 gay pornographic video A Young Man's World said its portrayal of fictional middle-aged men was demeaning to actual middle-aged men? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/A Young Man's World.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page. |
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Thank you, George, for your rapid assistance with Panama Limited; I have ventured over to Commons only three or four times during the three or four years I have been editing, and I was really unsure what to do. Thanks for taking care of that so quickly! HuskyHuskie (talk) 00:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC) |
Question
George, how good are you at determining whether an article has been expanded enough for DYK? Started out here Princess Irene of the Netherlands with quite a bit of text but zero refs. It doesn't seem to me that I textually expanded this a lot but would put it up for DYK if it fits the requirements. Thanks! We hope (talk) 17:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
File uploading
Hi there. You pinged in IRC? Did you have a question about the upload form or did you figure it out already? --KFP (contact - edits) 16:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
Please stop.
I am sorry but this whole George Ho thing,he also uses the name Gh87 is a load of bull in my opinion. User George Ho knows exactly what he is doing,which is he is being nothing but a technical smart alek. All George ho does is add tags to articles and nominate articles for deletion. He knows exactly what he is doing. I do not believe he is Autistic either,that was just a ploy so you all would feel sorry for him. I mean George ho has what,6 mentors and not one of the six or so mentors can make him understand what he is doing wrong? No one is that stupid that they would not understand when they have a group of mentors telling them what they did wrong.That should tell you something right there,that his mentors cannot even make him understand. He has a personal vendetta against soap operas and I am sick of everyone Molly-coddling him. Please just ban user George ho,or do not allow him to add tags to everything or nominate articles for deletion. I am telling you he is playing a game with you,even when multiple people explain his wrongdoings to him,he just skirts around the issue by asking questions--74.179.215.67 (talk) 05:45, 16 March 2012 (UTC)