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'H.L.A. Hart' Biography Entry - Article 'Law and Fact'

A team called 'Hartteam' edited the wiki page on H.L.A Hart, and added some information to his biography. There they added four articles he published during his early time. 3 of them I can find, but the 4th, titled 'Law and Fact', I cannot find mentioned anywhere. Is there a possibility to contact the person who made the addition to the wiki page, to ask for a citation or the article itself?

Thanks in advance — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:1c01:2f07:3f00:48e9:a2b7:46ac:2e29 (talk) 17:23, 7 August 2018‎ (UTC)

Hello 2001:1c01:2f07:3f00:48e9:a2b7:46ac:2e29 and welcome to the Teahouse. A belated welcome, it seems.

The way to contact a Wikipedia editor is to leave a message on their talk page, in this case User talk:Hartteam. The editor may have email notifications set and will see your message in a short time - or, they may not see your message until the next time they log in. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 09:14, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Need advice to improve Performance fabrics

Hello, Teahouse Greetings of the day! I am here to seek your help once again for suggestions and your kind advice forPerformance fabrics, copying here some recently exchanged messages for your immediate understanding of the concern.

Hi Roxy, appreciate your observations.i have added the required references to the chart, The basic difference between Fabric and Performance fabric is performance.which is enhanced in these fabrics. Don't hesitate to ask me again ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 17:44, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

I have moved this reply to Rajiv's talk page, where I opened the discussion. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 19:45, 11 August 2018 (UTC) Roxy, the dog. hello, I will add more sources, and for your queries 1. You asked ..So exactly what performance do you mean...and enhanced from what state? @@Performance, it is about the attributes of the fabrics totally opposite in a manner to achieve added functionalities (Interestingly these added attributes enhance the scope of use of those fabrics) @@enhance from what state....The added properties/performances do not belong originally to those fabrics but they are enhanced by different things see the definition.And properties of fabrics basically belongs to their origin and their polymers and polymer structure etc. But in this case, these properties are engineered to achieve added advantages. Examples of Polyester which is hydrophobic becomes water-loving(makes it useful for sportswear) and cotton is possible to behave water repel(You must have seen types of denim claiming rain guard, stain repel ) I tried to answer everything but you are welcome any time, don't stop asking, One last thing should we improve the definition part, please advise thanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 01:57, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

User:RAJIVVASUDEV, you have used a lot of words to say almost nothing. The only meaningful remark is that these fabrics purportedly make polyester hydrophilic, and cotton hydrophobic. Please address Roxy's concerns in a more direct way. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk)Hi let me elaborate it little more without repeating what is performance and enhancement, Performance fabrics they are purposefully manufactured to meet the conditions(sometimes extreme) with a predetermined objective. The originally owned properties of those fabrics also remain important in the whole consideration. Allow me to redefine and add some more relevant sources,Drift from Nike is a more convincing example anyway thanks, Please advise me about definition part which is revised now.Thanks again. Rajiv Sharma (talk) 02:39, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

I give up. Shock Brigade Harvester Boris (talk) 02:49, 12 August 2018 (UTC)— Preceding text originally posted on User talk:Roxy the dog#Performance fabrics

I know my explanations are technical and not understandable easily,need your help and Roxy to improve the things,that is why we are here.I have added sources,hopefully more convincing and reliable.Please comment .ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 06:40, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello RAJIVVASUDEV and welcome to the Teahouse.

I think you need to go back to the talk page of the article, at Talk:Performance fabrics and work out with other editors what sort of references should be added to the article. As best I can tell, you are inserting references that, at best, relate only tangentially to the statements that you are intending to support. If you want to improve the definition, and are finding some resistance, the talk page is also the place to put forward your suggested improvement and justify it. If you are not getting enough participation on the talk page, you may need to start an RfC or other steps to get more widespread input. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:55, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

RAJIVVASUDEV: the problem with your explanations of the term performance fabric is not that they're "technical and not understandable easily". It's that they're vacuous, they don't say anything.

If someone writes of a "performance car", he's probably referring to its acceleration and top speed, and not its capacity or comfort. But I've no idea what you mean by "performance fabric". Maproom (talk) 08:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@RAJIVVASUDEV: I was looking to find an article named Engineered fabrics for contrast but such a page does not yet exist. A Google search indicates that this term is frequently used for fabrics that have been treated with chemical coatings to alter their characteristics. I realize that you started the Performance fabrics page a couple of years ago, but it remains problematic. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:58, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Well noted all,Thanks for your adviceRajiv Sharma (talk) 09:09, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

— jmcgnh @jmcgnh you are right! actually there are few things which are recently introduced in textiles like wearable technology,e-textile, And Perfomance fabrics is one of them.henceforth information,knowledge and sources are limited, and the available information is very much confusing and misleading.I sincerely want wikipedia as an authentic source of knowledge for the concerned readers.Hopefully you got my point.ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2018 (UTC) Maproom (talk)@Maproom got your point but primarily fabrics are for comfort and protection only.Please identify and inform what are the other areas to be improved except definition?ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 09:58, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

R - please, no bold text. What I see at the article is that you worked on it a lot in 2015, and recently (August) lengthened it significantly. I expected to see more discussion at the Talk of the article rather than individuals' Talk pages and here at Teahouse. Please be civil. Writing "I know my explanations are technical and not understandable easily" is condescending toward the people who are/were trying to help. David notMD (talk) 11:19, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

David notMD (talk) Got it,Bold was unintentional.correcting the same and for technical and all..I was never meant like that. ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 12:03, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I just discovered this. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 11:43, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Sebastian Niemann

Hi, someone hanging around being able to clarify? The wikidata reference fore Sebastian Niemann is Q103898. I was in the very honest opinion that would mean it is okay to have the draft accepted on the English Wikipedia. Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 11:27, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lotje. The inclusion criteria for English Wikipedia is quite strict, and mostly boils down to the fact that all articles need to have content that can be verified in reliable sources. This is where the notability guidelines, such as WP:GNG come in to play. To be considered for inclusion, your article should cite sources that show that the subject of your article is remarkable, unusual enough to have received significant media attention. The guidelines at WP:NBIO and WP:DIRECTOR specifically are especially relevant, and the stricter rules at WP:Biographies of living persons also may come into play.

Basically though, it boils down to citing independent, reliable secondary sources that discuss the person you're writing about in enough detail that you can write an article with only what those sources say (paraphrased of course), because fundamentally, Wikipedia doesn't make new information, it just collects trustworthy information in an accessible way. If you're able to find the sources, then you should be able to have the draft accepted, if not, then perhaps the man will receive more media attention in the future, and you can submit a new article then. Thanks for making a good attempt though, and good luck for your contributions in the future. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 11:55, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

To answer your specific point, Lotje: no, the existence of a Wikidata entry gives no information whatever about whether the subject is considered notable by the standards of English Wikipedia. It may be that there are articles already in other Wikipedia which have less strict standards. (Sometimes there may even be an article in English Wikipedia, which nevertheless fails the criteria, and is liable to be deleted). It may even be that somebody has created a Wikidata entry for a subject which has no hope of meeting the criteria. --ColinFine (talk) 16:02, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Alpha3031: and @ColinFine: thank you ever so much. Lotje (talk) 07:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there a template to mark trivial corrections per MOS:SIC?

Like Template:Typo or Template:Text, it would have no visible effect, but would notify other editors that the discrepancy between the quotation and the source is a deliberate correction. Does such a thing exist? 209.209.238.189 (talk) 13:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

{{Sic}} in itself is not what you are looking for? Sam Sailor 14:03, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) According to {{sic}}'s documentation page (permanent link), the template has a |hide=y parameter, which hides the [sic] when piping content. For example, "{{sic|tyop|hide=y}}" renders as "tyop" rather than "tyop [sic]". It also has an |expected= parameter for documenting the problem and its expected correction. Is that sufficient? Beyond that, I am not really aware of one. {{sic}} was developed for this specific purpose. I personally see little reason to hide the template, though, so I have yet to use that parameter. A more basic alternative would be to add an invisible comment documenting the issue for editors, but |expected= already covers that. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 14:13, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Sam Sailor and Nøkkenbuer: {{sic}} is the opposite of what I'm looking for. [sic] means "this is an exact quotation of an incorrect (or heterodox) original". I want the opposite: "this is an inexact quotation because a trivial error in the original has been corrected. This correction is not an flaw in Wikipedia, but justified by MOS:SIC."

The warning is not addressed to readers, but to editors who might notice the discrepancy and "fix" it. It might be nice if a hidden parameter let me include the exact original text so a later editor can see and judge the correction.

To give a concrete example, the press release at https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/news/news.php?feature=5174 is titled "Mcnamee Chosen to Head NASA's Outer Planets/Solar Probe Projects". Within the body of the press release, the name is consistently spelled McNamee. The lack of a capital N in the title is clearly an oversight, and not contextually important, so per MOS:SIC, "should simply be corrected without comment". 209.209.238.189 (talk) 01:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for the misunderstanding; the original question was somewhat confusing, admittedly, since I have never seen anyone request what you have, so I assumed that interpretation (which turned out to be the intended one) was mistaken on my part. What you meant is unambiguous now. To the point: {{sic}} is not used in CS1 and CS2 templates due to COinS metadata pollution, anyway, so that alone precludes using the template if you are using it in a CS1 or CS2 citation. In such circumstances, I usually leave the original capitalization and add an invisible comment specifying as much, such as:

Mcnamee<!--Should be "McNamee", but original text retained--> Chosen to Head NASA's Outer Planets/Solar Probe Projects

If you wish to correct it, then you can do the same, only change the note to something like:

McNamee<!--Miscapitalized as "Mcnamee" in original text--> Chosen to Head NASA's Outer Planets/Solar Probe Projects

Either work and if someone else changes it later on, that's their decision. As for the applicability of {{sic}}, it is indeed not appropriate for post-correction annotation. There is usually no need to note anything in such circumstances, though, so anyone who does uses an invisible comment. Hopefully, this helps. As for whether a template exists for this, I'm aware of none. You can request for one to be made to add to the {{Not a typo}} suite, but I honestly doubt it will have much use, even compared to the others in that suite. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 11:04, 13 August 2018 (UTC); last two sentences added at 11:20, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Nøkkenbuer: Thank you very much. My one concern has been whether an HTML-level comment would also pollute COinS (since presumably it gets copied through MediaWiki's expansion and ignored by the rendering browser) and whether {{^}} would be better.

Yes, I've been thinking of asking for an alias (redirect), but wasn't sure of a good name. ({{Correction}} or {{Corr}} are possible. {{Corrected}} is already in use for something else. Or maybe {{Trivial}}?) I note in passing that {{Not a typo}} expands to {{Sic|hide=y|{{{1|}}}|{{{2|}}}}}; perhaps I should redirect to Template:text instead. 209.209.238.189 (talk) 10:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

When I check the rendered source of pages which include HTML comments in the page, the HTML comments do not show up. You can check yourself at any page where you know there are HTML comments, including the Manual of Style itself. Unless I'm missing something obvious here, those invisible comments are strictly for editors within the edit window; the MediaWiki software, or at least its implementation here, does not even transfer it to the rendered page source. Consequently, I seriously doubt such notes can even pollute the COinS metadata; in the CS1 templates I have personally encoded with invisible comments (usually something like ...|author=<!--None listed.-->|...), that has not occurred. I will note that Help:Citation Style 1 § Authors explicitly suggests using invisible comments in such circumstances, too, as best practice. So, on that matter, I don't think you need to worry at all. Feel free to make prolific use of invisible comments in any and all text and templates where due; {{void}} need not apply.

On the matter of the new template or redirect, that is something probably better requested and discussed at Template talk:Not a typo or perhaps Template talk:Sic. An alternative venue is the Village pump. I'm not very familiar with template code, though I can probably code something simple like this; redirects are cheap. It is probably better to establish consensus first, though, especially if a new template is introduced, since it may not be seen as marginally useful enough and thus may just be subject to deletion and removal from documentation. If you do decide to initiate such discussions, feel free to ping me or mention it here in case I want to participate. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 12:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC); edited 12:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, given this is getting beyond my scope of competence and I don't want to mislead anyone, I'm pinging Trappist the monk, who is one of the elder gods on these matters. I hope they don't mind the unsolicited summons and apologies in advance if they do. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 12:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

html comments are stripped from the wikisource before MediaWiki processes templates and modules so, from the template perspective, html comments are ok. On the other hand, scripts and bots that operate on the raw wikisource can have problems with html comments and have been known to modify those comments; of course, templates within templates are also problematic for these tools. This is also true of html comments in template source.

Some consider titles in citations to be 'quotation-like' (MOS:QUOTE) and as such should be handled as quotations are handled so simple things like 'Mcnamee' → 'McNamee' are handled silently. There are others who believe that titles in citations must be rendered as they are in the source, warts and all. I don't think that MOS has much to say about that so how citation titles are treated in any particular article becomes a matter of consensus best determined with involved editors at the article's talk page. cs1|2 has some guidance with regard to titles.

—Trappist the monk (talk) 13:46, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Picture license

Hi! What license does a picture have to be under to make it able to go on a Wikipedia page? I guess it has to be 'free' but free and what? The options on my google advanced search are: - Free to use or share - Free to use or share, even commercially - Free to use share or modify - Free to use, share or modify even commercially

Aesthetic Sunset (talk) 18:54, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Aesthetic Sunset, it's the last option; Free to use, share or modify even commercially as those are the basic terms of the CC BY-SA 3.0 License. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 19:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Roger (Dodger67) Thank you, it is a lot trickier finding pictures with the correct license than I thought! Aesthetic Sunset (talk) 20:36, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi again Aesthetic Sunset, what image are you looking for? Certain types of subjects can qualify for a "fair use" exemption, though the image must then strictly comply with all of the conditions stipulated by the non-free content rule. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 20:53, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Roger (Dodger67) I was looking at a picture on the article on Jessica Keenan Wynn and in general for some other people on here. Aesthetic Sunset (talk) 20:56, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

@Aesthetic Sunset: it's particularly hard to make a fair use argument for a picture of a living person, because in principle you could take a picture of them yourself and release that freely. Fair use needs you to argue that there's no free alternative (see also WP:NFC#UUI). Sometimes editors will write to the subjects of articles asking if they could make a picture available under a suitable license (typically one of these), but of course that needs to be done considerately and with due caution. I haven't done it myself. › Mortee _talk 21:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Mortee Thanks for all the info. Hmmm this is a lot lot lot trickier than at first glance, I really am getting into this now! I'll have a look at the links now and get back to you if I have any questions on it? Is that alright? Cheers! Aesthetic Sunset (talk) 16:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Aesthetic Sunset: sure. I'm no expert, but you can ask at the Teahouse or on my talk page. › Mortee _talk 16:09, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Mortee WWell you still know more than me, eh? :D Thanks again Mortee! Aesthetic Sunset (talk) 16:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Private Spaceflight, 1971 early "Project Harvest Moon" NEED A MENTOR.

I am 87 years old, was the instigator of this project, and feel it should be recorded on Wikipedia. There is a Wall Street Journal article verifying its existence, but I don't know how to upload it.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Thanks, George Van Valkenburg — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quickscan1 (talk • contribs) 22:15, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello User:Quickscan1 and welcome to the Teahouse.

I found a couple of mentions, including this one Lost in Space: The Fall of NASA and the Dream of a New Space Age By Greg Klerkx p175 which could be the starting point for an article. This other mention, at CollectSpace.com probably can't be used. Someone with access to a newspaper database could probably track down the WSJ articles you remember. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 22:43, 12 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, George. I did not find the Wall Street Journal article, but I found one that mentions you, a syndicated article that was picked up by many small newspapers,, an AP release, also widely distributed, several by LaMont, and a status report in November. Hope these help. [LATER] All the references ended at the bottom of the Teahouse page. Sorry about that. I don't know how to move them. Someone else may help.Anobium625 (talk) 16:49, 15 August 2018 (UTC) Someone did. Thanks.Anobium625 (talk) 18:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

References

How to delete history of an old revision

Hi there, I'mm wondering if it is possible to get an old revision deleted from the revision history of a particular article. If so how can this be done?— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Conrad Tanner (talk • contribs) 13:02, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Only administrators can delete/hide revisions as per WP:RVDL. It is only used for "Selective deletion" like copyright violations or insulting, degrading, or offensive material. I'm unsure but if you are trying to hide personal information you posted on a certain article that is only in revision history, you might be able to appeal to ad administrator to hide it but someone more experience than me can answer that. NZFC^(talk) 04:14, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Conrad Tanner: Requests for removal of personal information should be sent to WP:Oversight, e.g. via Special:EmailUser/Oversight or oversight-en-wp@wikipedia.org. I believe there is also an IRC channel, and if you contact an Administrator instead they will probably pass it on anyway. As mentioned by NZ Footballs Conscience, other gross violations of the rules can be reported via emailing administrators or other ways listed at WP:REVDELREQUEST. There is also a template for copyright violations. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:13, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Notification: speedy deletion nomination

Hello Teahouse community,

First: Excuse please my English which is not my mother tongue.

Here my question: In 2012, I wrote and submitted an article, my first and only one, to Wikipedia (on "Guy Schraenen"). A few days ago, I dicovered that my article is deleted from Wikipedia, "because the page appears to be an unambiguous". It is said: "It appears to be a direct copy" from an external website". I have to say that I am the author of the article on this external website too, which is also on "Guy Schraenen", because I am the responsible of his archives. So it appears indeed similar to my article on Wikipedia. But it is not "a direct copy"! The Wikipedia article included much more information, exact sources etc.!

What can I do that my submission to Wikipedia appears again?

Thanks a lot for help to somebody who knows (as academic) about copyrights, but has unfortunately not a lot technical editing knowledge at Wikipedia. Mekiedan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mekiedan (talk • contribs) 04:19, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Mekiedan. Here are the basics: the content of the deleted article was substantially the same as the content at this website. Please note that this website does not include any language freely licensing its content to be used elsewhere without restrictions. Accordingly, this content and this website is considered copyright protected. Wikipedia is based on the principle of freely licensed content and our use of copyrighted content must be limited to brief, attributed quotes which must comprise a very small percentage of the content of an acceptable article. In other words, you cannot post substantially the same content on a copyright protected website and also here on Wikipedia where the content is freely licensed. That is legally incompatible. Any Wikipedia article about this person must consist of originally written prose that summarizes what reliable sources have said about this person. Please read Your first article for additional advice. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:17, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks a lot for your answer, Cullen! I understand perfectly that copyright rules have to be followed at Wikipedia! Of course! But two questions remain: 1. Is my Wikipedia submission completely gone? In the air so to say? As I never thought that somebody could delite it so easily, I didn't make a copy. Or could I retrieve it somewhere? And if, how... If I Then could delete my similar article on the website and give simply a link to my Wikipedia article on the same subject which was much more complete. 2. Isn't there any possibility to give a licence from my text on Wikipedia to free it to be used on the other website which I created? If yes, how would this technicaly to be proceeded? Once more thank you in advance! Mekiedan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mekiedan (talk • contribs) 14:20:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Mekiedan: If you just want your draft back, and it doesn't contain information that has been Oversighted, you can simply ask at WP:REFUND, and an administrator will likely email you a copy, or restore it if you can release copyright. I am unsure as to how you would go about proving that you are the copyright holder of the work though (I think emailing from a official email associated with the website would be sufficient, but you should clear it with an admin to make sure). A declaration of consent form email for the use of content you hold copyright to can be found here.— Alpha3031 (t • c) 14:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Waiting for an article to be published

Hello, About a month ago I created an article, but it doesn't appear anywhere when I search for it. So I assume that it is still not approved, am I correct? How long does it usually take to approve an article and how can I find out if everything is alright with the one I created?

Many thanks! Aflame008 (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)Aflame008Aflame008 (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You created a draft but you didn't submit it for AFC review. To submit the draft for review, add {{subst:submit}} to the top of the draft. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello Aflame008 and welcome to the Teahouse.

But, before you submit it, may I suggest that you do some more work on it first? In its current state it will almost certainly be declined at AfC for reasons of promotionalism, lack of references, and not having established that its subject is notable, according to WP's notability criteria for companies. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 08:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Strange alert

Last week I encountered a strange alert. When I clicked the bell icon, on the top of the list an unread prompt popped up, which vanished completely when I clicked the blue dot to mark it as read -- strange!

When I checked my mails, I found a message from "HsfBot‬", referring me to https://id.wikipedia.org, were I am obviously already known as user, and was "invited" to log in (I did not!).

I do not know of any action from my side regarding the Indonesian WP, and feel a bit unsecure about the circumstances of vanishing alerts and unsolicited user pages.

I tried to be concise and short, but certainly I am prepaired to give additional details in case they are needed to explain this to me. Thanks in advance. Purgy (talk) 09:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Purgy. Your account was created at the Indonesian Wikipedia Saturday [1], probably because you clicked a link to it while you were logged in. Two minutes later HsfBot‬ posted a welcome message on your talk page [2]. This causes a notification at other wikis but after you have read it, it only remains at the Indonesian Wikipedia. Just ignore it. PrimeHunter (talk) 09:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation of the automated processes, which I started by inadvertently clicking a link to Indonesian WP. Is there a chance to get rid again of these unintentional remnants? I would prefer to have no userpage there, especially not, if the same password applies. Purgy (talk) 10:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The user page which you can see there is the one which you created at meta:User:Purgy_Purgatorio. That is used in any Wikipedia where you don't have a specific user page. See WP:Global user page. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:45, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! It's too late to regret having thought that contact with Wikimedia might not necessarily be at least regretful. Purgy (talk) 11:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Purgy: More precisely, meta:User:Purgy Purgatorio is shown in Wikimedia wikis where your account has been created but you haven't made a user page. Special:CentralAuth/Purgy Purgatorio shows where the account has been created. It's common to accumulate many account creations by clicking links to other wikis while logged in. Accounts cannot be deleted but the global user page can be deleted on request by placing {{Delete|1=User request}} on meta:User:Purgy Purgatorio. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

add new content

I want to add new content. I read [3] . but i can't understand clearly. So i need some help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sardersalimreza (talk • contribs) 11:23, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Which part of WP:YFA do you not understand? --David Biddulph (talk) 11:28, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Not directly answering your question, Sardersalimreza, but please note that creating a new article is not the only way, or necessarily the most helpful way, to improve Wikipedia. We have six million articles, many of them very poor. Improving an existing article is often a much more valuable contribution than creating a new one - especially when the motive for creating a new article is something along the lines of "to tell the world about ... " or "because ... deserves an article". Neither of these motives has any relation to Wikipedia's purposes or policies. Writing a new article is hard, and hundreds of new articles are deleted every day. --ColinFine (talk) 12:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Right now you have created a draft: Draft:Sarder Salim Reza which is the right place. Some new editors make the mistake of working at their User page, which is for a brief description of what you are and intend to do as a Wikipedia editor. You also posted two photos of Mr. Reza to Wikipedia Commons. The important question is whether Mr. Reza meets Wikipedia's rules for notability for a biography of a living person. My own opinion is - Not. I suggest you read Wikipedia:Notability (people) as should help. David notMD (talk) 13:00, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Also, given your User name identical to the draft article name, appears you are writing about yourself. As someone else posted on your Talk page, strongly discouraged. David notMD (talk) 15:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

New content

Hello everyone,

So realizing the monumental task and responsibility that is editing and contributing to Wikipedia, how does one find someone who will write proper content and is this admissible assuming most folks aren't writing about themselves.

Thank you and apologies should my question be out of line. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rofgonc (talk • contribs) 15:05, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Rofgonc. It's not entirely clear what your question is. Most editors on Wikipedia just write about topics they're interested in. GMG^talk 15:27, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

There is a phrase, "Build it and they will come" (which is NOT an exact quote from movie Field of Dreams). Applied here at Wikipedia, if a person becomes Wikipedia-notable while still alive, other people - not connected, related or employed by - will create an article. Wikipedia-notable means that there are published accounts in reputable media (newspapers, magazines...) about the person in question not written by the person. Not interviews. Not press releases. David notMD (talk) 15:36, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

We "find someone who will write proper content" by inviting everyone to edit, Rofgonc. The writers include anyone interested in contributing to Wikipedia. That can include you, as well. We use terms like "editor" because they are technically accurate and sound better than "person with an Internet connection and some spare time to edit an encyclopedia without pay". Most of us are not professionals; all anyone needs to help construct this encyclopedia is a bit of competence and a willingness to engage.

In general, we are volunteers who contribute at our leisure. Sometimes, we do so in topic areas that interest us; for some of us, we do so even on subjects that are unfamiliar to us. If you want to participate in "realizing the monumental task and responsibility that is editing and contributing to Wikipedia", then go for it! So long as you adhere to the five pillars, follow the rules (and sometimes ignore them), and act in good faith, you too can become an esteemed person with an Internet connection and some spare time to edit an encyclopedia without pay.

And yes, autobiographic and other conflict-of-interest editing is generally not a good idea. Be thankful that you don't have an article about yourself; if you ever do, its existence will not be within your control. If you want to begin learning how to edit Wikipedia, the tutorial is a good place to start. The Wikipedia Adventure may also interest you. Welcome to Wikipedia! —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 16:13, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect Link for a co-author of listed book

The book, "Simon & Schuster's Guide to Insects" (Fireside Book)May 4, 1981 by Dr. Ross H. Arnett and Dr. Richard L. Jr. Jacques shows the co-author Richard L. Jacques with a link not to his correct biography, but to one of an Englishman and artist. Dr. Jacques, the co-author was the student of Dr. Arnett at Purdue University when I attended Purdue University as a graduate student with "Rich" Jacques. Someone needs to correct the link, I cannot understand how to edit the material. Thank you, Clarence A. Callahan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CACallahanCAC (talk • contribs) 15:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey CACallahanCAC. The book does not appear to have its own article, and so it's not clear where the content is that you would like changed. I'm afraid you will need to be more specific. GMG^talk 15:52, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I think it was in Ross H. Arnett Jr.. If it was another article you saw the misleading link in, please let us know, CACallahanCAC :-) --bonadea contributions talk 15:54, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

How to Proceed with Mediation

Recently, I submitted a mediation request that seems to have "vaporized". In following up on this, I was advised by a Wikipedia volunteer to: "I like to urge you to try asking for help with the tea house before resorting to the more formal approach of mediation. (One of the challenges of mediation is that all parties have to agree to participate and that's not always the case.)" Consequently, I am here.

The mediation concern pertains to this Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Handmaid%27s_Tale_(TV_series)#References_to_Trump_and_Pence_need_to_be_deleted.

My user ID is TheBlackMark.

I believe that references to Trump/Pence should be deleted as empty facts. The editor who is the originator of this text does not appear to be willing to modify his text. I do not wish to become involved in a revert war. Therefor I am seeking mediation for resolving this concern.

TheBlackMark (talk) 17:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

For what it's worth, I looked at the content disagreement and the current text and think it's a good compromise.

There was much debate on whether parallels could be drawn between the series (and by extension, the book it is based on) and American society during the Presidency of Donald Trump.

There are numerous sources that point out the timing of the program and the current administration. The reader can read the sources that are listed for more background. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:06, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I guess that I am "swimming against the tide". This is an "empty fact", in that this controversy is simply being manufactured by a political group to generate controversy to push their agenda. It is not is not a a controversy (discussion) between two groups that have a differing opinion concerning how to interpret the meaning of The Handmaid's Tail. Jdavi333 noted, "The fact that some opinion writers are reading more into this than mere coincidence just does not fit in to the encyclopedic purpose of Wikipedia.". My edits were proposed to further the "encyclopedic purpose of Wikipedia". Well thank-you for responding.

TheBlackMark (talk) 01:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Question about sandbox policy regarding images

There are articles that I want to work on improving in my sandbox before change them in the main space. When I copy the articles to my sandbox do I need to remove all non-free images? -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:29, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Millionsandbillions: Yes. Non-free images may only be used in article space. See WP:NFCC RudolfRed (talk) 18:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Millionsandbillions: Yes. Nonfree images may be used only in mainspace, and may not be used in drafts outside it. To make them easier to restore, however, you can "disable" displaying the image by putting a colon before the "File". So [[:File:Example.jpg]] displays as File:Example.jpg. That'll make them very easy to put back in once you return the article to mainspace. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 18:40, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. -- Millionsandbillions (talk) 18:43, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Asking a question in private to avoid revealing personal details?

Hello there,

I have a question relating to a potential COI which I would like to ask a member of the moderating team prior to submitting my first article. I have read the rules and was not able to find an answer relating to my situation. If I was to ask a question in public, I would become identifiable through cursory research by name, address and other contact details due to my association with the subject.

Is it possible to somehow open a private thread for this purpose?

Much obliged,

ThePastoral (talk) 12:43, Saturday, September 7, 2024 (UTC)

Hey ThePastoral. You may send a private email to info-en-owikimedia.org. GMG^talk 19:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Or if you want to get to a specific person, you can email them using the Email this user on the left side oftheir user page. There is no way to open a private thread on Wikipedia. ~ GB fan 19:30, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you both very much. I'm not sure which individual to ask so an email would seem to be the most appropriate course of action. Thanks again. ThePastoral (talk)

Pending Page

Hi,

We submitted a page but was flagged for two images that were said to have been deleted (possibly due to copyright, even though we do own them). I can no longer find the pending page. Was this deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Prkkinsella (talk • contribs) 19:29, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Prkkinsella, You created a draft article at Draft:Oscar Heyman & Brothers. ~ GB fan 19:32, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Prkkinsella. Your images were deleted on our sister project, Wikimedia Commons. If you own the copyright, you can release the pictures under a free license, so that they may be used on Wikipedia. You can do this by following the instructions at WP:CONSENT. GMG^talk 19:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Welcome to the Teahouse, Prkkinsella. Your draft can be found at Draft:Oscar Heyman & Brothers. Your use of "we" is of concern. Wikipedia allows one account per person, and shared accounts are not allowed. When you say "we do own them" regarding photos, then that implies that you may have a conflict of interest. If you are an employee or owner of this jewelry maker, then you must comply with our mandatory paid editing disclosure. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 19:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Please make my page not a draft move it because it's an artist profile bio on wiki for edwin elijah diaz

Draft:Edwin_Elijah_Diaz — Preceding unsigned comment added by 03ducation (talk • contribs) 19:42, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

The article is not ready to be published yet. There are no reliable sources on the article at all. Also Wikipedia is not the place to promote yourself. ~ GB fan 19:51, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

And it has been deleted as unambiguous promotion. I'd strongly encourage 03ducation to read WP:NOTFACEBOOK and My first article. John from Idegon (talk) 21:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Footnotes

My article (Draft:Boris Rotman)has been rejected because it needs footnotes. However, the article has 10 footnotes (listed at the end with superscripts 1, 2, 3, etc. Please help! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Autoctono~enwiki (talk • contribs) 20:45, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Autoctono~enwiki: you may want to ask the reviewer who looked at your draft - Catrìona - on their talk page. I suspect the issue is the Education section, which has no references so far. › Mortee _talk 21:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Autoctono~enwiki, the draft Draft: Boris Rotman has references, but they are almost all to works by Rotman and his collaborators. Wikipedia is basically uninterested in anything said, done or published by the subject of the article or their associates except as discussed in reliably published sources by people unconnected with them. An article on Rotman must be 90% based on sources that are not by Rotman or his associates, but are about him, by people unconnected with him. Once such an article has been written, then a selected bibliography can be added; but the bulk of the content of the article must be based on independent sources about Rotman, not by him. --ColinFine (talk) 22:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

A quickie Google search yielded no articles ABOUT Rotman. In my opinion there are not grounds for a Wikipedia article. David notMD (talk) 22:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Borrowing this from a reply elsewhere: "Wikipedia articles have to meet some very strict criteria to be considered for inclusion, mostly the Wikipedia:Notability policy. Basically, your article needs to cite sources that are independent and reliable, such as a major news publication. To prove notability, there should be multiple citations (at least two), and the citations have to mention have to mention the subject of your article in detail (several paragraphs or a whole article, not just a passing mention)." Content BY the person, i.e., science journal articles authored by the person, do not count. David notMD (talk) 07:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft:Anna Landolt

I would appreciate if one or two other editors would look at Draft:Anna Landolt. It was submitted via Articles for Creation. The most obvious problem to a Wikipedia reviewer is that it has no references, but that can be remedied. A more serious problem is that the draft says that her dates of birth and death are not known, in which case she is not notable unless there is substantial coverage of the middle of her life (and there is none in the draft). The draft says that she is depicted playing the piano in a painting by Henry Fuseli called The Nightmare. We have articles on Fuseli and on The Nightmare. However, the painting does not depict a pianist; it depicts a sleeping woman and an incubus, and the sleeping woman is not wearing a necklace.

Maybe there was another painting by Fuseli in the same year which did depict the otherwise obscure Landolt as a goddess-musician. This seems the best good-faith assumption, but may or may not be correct.

I declined the draft and explained my concern. Will another editor look at it and advise on, first, whether I handled the draft reasonably, and, second, what they think is the explanation for this discrepancy. Robert McClenon (talk) 22:47, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

According to our article on The Nightmare, Fuseli did have an affair with an Anna Landholdt, but if she is the subject of the painting, she is not playing the piano. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:15, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

What a fascinating question, Robert McClenon! I think you were right to decline this, though probably a WP:REDIRECT to The Nightmare is justifiable. A quick look online (and I know nothing of this area, I should say) indicates that the painting of the Nightmare has, on its obverse side, a depiction of a woman thought by one art critic (Powell 1972) to be possibly Anna Landolt. (see here). I really don't think there is enough verifiable information available in the draft to justify a page on her, based on what seems like conjecture by one or more art specialists (see here and here, though I'm not suggesting these are WP:RS). I think there's enough detail in the page on the painting to warrant a redirect, and maybe the article creator (Sylviagindick) could invest time in researching reliable references which support or counter these interpretations, and I hope they will respond with some more information themselves. I also note there is a discrepancy in the spelling of her surname in online references and the Wikipedia page on The Nightmare. This also needs addressing. I certainly wouldn't want to put off a new editor who is interested in the history of art on Wikipedia, but we do need reliable sources and citations to support content. Does this help at all? Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

User:Nick Moyes - The drawing of a woman is on the reverse side (tails of a coin) of the picture. The obverse is the front (heads of a coin). However, the draft appears to refer to something more detailed than a sketch on the back of a painting. It seems to be describing a different painting, showing Anna at the piano wearing a sacred necklace. Based on the description in the draft, the artist may have represented his mistress as a goddess-musician, but that isn't what The Nightmare is about. Robert McClenon (talk) 16:20, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon: Oops - my mistake in terminology (I meant the back of the picture). I agree it is unclear, and possibly describing the wrong picture. As such, I support your response in rejecting the review at this time. You'll have seen that I reached out to the user to encourage them and hopefully to elicit some better and verifiable content. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

how can i change the title of my draft?

I need to modify my draft title. How do I do that?

User:Theandremira - Please sign your posts. You change the title of a draft by moving it to the new title. Robert McClenon (talk) 23:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

I agree that moving the draft Draft:Digital identities, physical spaces would be a good idea. What do you want to rename it to? Robert McClenon (talk) 23:21, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Creating a page about a manufacturing tech entity

Hello, I cam new to the community and tried to create a page that was denied. I am trying to make a page similar to that of "HRE Performance Wheels" and has the page denied for "Draft:Brixton Forged Wheels". Can someone please explain why "HRE Performance Wheels" can exist but recreating a similar page was denied, Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cody.williston (talk • contribs)

Hello, Cody.williston and welcome to our Teahouse. I've taken the liberty of adding links to the relevant pages in your post. We only take individual articles on their own merits, rather than say "well, that company has a page, so why can't this one?" But I tend to agree with you that the page for HRE Performance Wheels doesn't demonstrate notability, just as your draft doesn't at this time. I also note that another editor has recommended that page for a speedy deletion because of that lack of notability. (I might have gone about deletion via a different route myself, but I doubt it will stay on Wikipedia unless is is dramatically improved.) Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:35, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

@Cody.williston: Oh, and by the way, if you're the same Cody Williston who is Director of Business at Brixton Forged, please be aware that you are obligated to declare your Conflict of Interest when trying to write about your own company, and should declare this according to the policy I have just hyperlinked to, and especially to WP:PAID. (Being an employee or CEO inevitably means you are being paid.) Those with such a conflict of interest are strongly advised not to attempt to promote their own company through Wikipedia, but to use traditional means that don't involve using the the time of keen volunteers to sort out their mess. All companies need to meet our notability criteria (you need to read WP:NCORP for this) and basically a company deemed 'notable' must have been written about (in detail) by independent, reliable sources. We ignore company press releases and insider business promo guff. So, best to leave it for others to write about your company, and don't do it yourself, please. Maybe you'd like to contribute to other areas with which you aren't so intimately involve? Wikipedia needs all the keen editors it can get! Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for contributing to the deletion of HRE Performance Wheels. David notMD (talk) 10:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

When/How will 'Draft' be removed from my new article?

Hello, I'm quite new to editing Wikipedia and I have recently created a new article for the Restaurant chain, Costa Vida. It's been up and finished for a day or two now, but the 'Draft' is still there. Help? Wyatt850 (talk) 23:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Costa_Vida_(Restaurant_Chain)

Hello, Wyatt850. Thanks for coming to the Teahouse with your question. Your draft will remain in that form until you submit it for review, and then it will stay in the queue until it is assessed (this can take some weeks, I'm afraid). Whilst we could add a 'submit' button to the page for you, I have to tell you that I think no reviewer would accept your draft at this time. Put simply, you need to use references which demonstrate how this small chain of restaurants (amongst tens of thousands of others in the world) stands out by meeting our 'Notability' criteria. All companies need to meet these notability criteria (so you need to read WP:NCORP for this) and basically a company deemed 'notable' must have been written about (in detail) by independent, reliable sources. We ignore company press releases and insider business promo guff - and all the references you have used are of that type, so will not be relevant to demonstrating notability. So, having read those guidelines, if you really feel the restaurants merit an article (and not just because you like to eat or work there), you will need to find a number of reliable sources that talk about it in detail. Once you've done that, you might wish to come back for some further feedback, and one of the hosts here can add a 'submit for review' button to the page. But right now you'd be wasting your time and theirs, I feel. Shout if we can help you further, but recognise that some companies simply won't ever meet these criteria, so won't get a page here - see the post immediately above for a similar example. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 00:11, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

actor or actress??

I created a page where I labelled the woman (actor) to differentiate her from the other woman with the same name. Someone moved it to (actress). Is there a guide for this? Was (actor) wrong or do we not gender unnecessarily? I thought the term actor for everyone was generally accepted these days? Just want guidance for the future. ☕ Antiqueight ^chatter 01:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Antiqueight. This is an interesting and difficult question. General guidance can be found at Wikipedia:Gender-neutral language and the various links there. That deprecates the use of rare and outdated gendered job titles such as "aviatrix". Personally, I agree with you that the word "actor" should be applied to all such performers. The problem is that word "actress" is still common and is used, for example, in the Academy Awards, probably the most prestigious awards for films. I suggest that you use "actor" but avoid arguing if another editor prefers "actress", at least until there is a community consensus to avoid "actress". Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:18, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

It is certainly an interesting question, Antiqueight, and I agree with Cullen328 that it is a difficult one, too. I might take the opposite view from him, in that we do already use '(actress)' in a large number of article titles about female actors (over 1,500 uses in the first 5,000 page titles searched for with 'actress' anywhere in the title). IMHO 'actress' simply adds immediate clarity to an article name, and that clarity is preferable to any immediate confusion that a gender-neutral term might add. It's also not yet a defunct nor an offensive or discriminatory term in my view. I spent a while looking for an answer before a more experienced editor replied, and found very little to guide us. However, the page Cullen328 cites, does also state: Where the gender is known, gender-specific items are also appropriate ("Bill Gates is a businessman" or "Nancy Pelosi is a congresswoman"). I see a number of editors have already made changes to ensure categorisation and titling refers to the female form in one of the pages you've edited (Phyllis Ryan (actress)) that I guess you might be referring to. So, as Cullen328 wisely says, it is probably not worth arguing this within one article until such time as a community-wide consensus on the use of that term in page titles is achieved. That said, if all the references referred to her as an actor, and especially if she did herself, then maybe actor might then be the appropriate term to use. Otherwise, I'd prefer to keep it as it is right now. Sorry if this perspective seems a little old-fashioned and in contradiction of the earlier view expressed. But that's Wikipedia for you, and your contributions are valued, however they end up being titled. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 02:13, 14 August 2018 (UTC)  

You are entirely correct, Nick Moyes, that the term "actress" is still common on Wikipedia and in reliable sources in general. That is why I recommended that the issue is not worth fighting about on a case by case basis. I would express my opinion thoughtfully in a broad community discussion on this question, and I expect that you would as well. And I would respect whatever consensus emerged. There is no consensus currently, so I consider it entirely reasonable for editors to call females "actors" in their routine editing, unless they become tendentious or disruptive in their behavior. Regards from the USA. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I get 1904 articles with actress) in the title. Some former discussions not specific to titles: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 118#Actor vs Actress terminology, Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Archive 144#Actor/actress, Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Archive 48#"Actor" or "actress" for erm, actresses? PrimeHunter (talk) 09:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you all, Nick Moyes, Cullen328. Yes - I felt I shouldn't argue over it but wanted guidance on what to do if I hit the same issue going forward. It was indeed Phyllis Ryan (actress) - I wouldn't have changed it to actor from actress and I have no intention of putting it back. But it seemed like a learning opportunity. PrimeHunter Thank you for the manual of style discussions. I looked for such a one but failed to find it - but I was tired so my searching was limited. I only found one on Lesbian actors where the consensus was to leave the title alone. I appreciate your inputs here. It seems I was not wrong to put (actor) and can continue going forward to do the same BUT neither - for now - is (actress) incorrect and indeed the reverse. I don't feel up to starting a conversation on formally changing it but it's good to know. ☕ Antiqueight ^chatter 12:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Made edits to my previous post's article. Improvements?

New to Wikipedia and I made a new article. Made a new post a little bit ago about my article for Costa Vita. It was pretty bad as stated, but is this an improvement? Still will add to it and work on it. Thanks, Wyatt850 (talk) 01:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Wyatt850. The draft in question is Draft:Costa Vida (Restaurant Chain). In my opinion, this draft is nowhere close to complying with Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies). The references are mostly to fast food industry insider websites and coverage only in the trade press is rarely considered sufficient to establish the notabilty of a business. Why is this little fast food restaurant chain worthy of an encyclopedia article when such chains are commonplace? It is all about the quality of the coverage in independent, reliable sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 02:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Draft on Namespace: Markuann Smith

Hi there-- I made the necessary changes to a bio about Markuann Smith and posted it in namespace (draft) as I read it will be more visible there for review and other editors can weigh in. Yet, I haven't heard anything or received feedback. Is there another place that someone can suggest, so that the bio is more visible for review/approval?

01:47, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello. It looks like your draft was reviewed and declined on the 29th of July. If you feel like you've improved the article, you can submit it again, but there are a lot of submissions so it can take a long time (around 8 weeks) for your article to be reviewed.

I've looked at the reviewer comments and the draft, and I think that the article might benefit from further improvement before re-submission. The key issues are notability and sourcing, which Wikipedia has very strict rules for. Your article needs to have enough citations to prove that Markuann Smith is notable according to Wikipedia policy (see WP:GNG). This means that there needs to be significant coverage (e.g. full articles), in multiple reliable sources (respected publications like the New York Times are the best). Preferably, each significant claim (important facts like birth date/place, etc. that might be contested) should also be backed up by a reliable source. If you have any more questions, or if you want someone to look at the article again, feel free to contact me, either at my talk page or using one of the reply templates. Good luck with your article.— Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Citing a source more than once

I note that on many pages a source is cited more than once and the reference number remains the same, but the reference list recognizes the subsequent citations with a, b, c… How is this done? Anobium625 (talk) 02:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Anobium625. There are a number of ways to cite the same source multiple times in an article, but the way you7re seeing it done is explained in WP:REFNAME. -- Marchjuly (talk) 02:48, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for the prompt reply.Anobium625 (talk) 02:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict) @Anobium625: there are a few ways to do this. Two ways I use are 1) giving the reference a name: "this is true<ref name="source">{{cite book|...}}</ref> and that is true<ref name="source" /> and 2) using {{sfn}} to give short references to a different page number within a reference I've already used. I'd be happy to help more if I can. You're welcome to ask a question on my talk page or at the teahouse. I've found referencing a surprisingly deep subject and the best way to learn it has been to look at the source of good articles. There are all kinds of tricks to pick up. › Mortee _talk 02:52, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, too! If I'm not successful, I'll get back to you for more help.Anobium625 (talk) 03:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC) Got it! Cf. Constance Savery, if interested.Anobium625 (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Stanford Men's Volleyball Players

Your list of former Stanford Volleyball players omitted the name of John B. Licata. Mr. Licata was the team captain from 1953 to 1955 and the number one setter. He was chosen to play for the US National team in the 1955 Pan American Games in Mexico City.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.80.229.144 (talk) 12:56, 14 August 2018‎ (UTC)

We don't appear to have an article on Stanford University Men's Volleyball. We do have a category Category:Stanford Cardinal men's volleyball players. A category is a collection of existing articles, so someone would first have to write an article about John B. Licata. Rojomoke (talk) 05:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Duplicate in draft space

By chance, I noticed that someone's draft page, Draft:Data Mining in Social Media, is the exact topic of an existing article called social media mining. I need some guidance about what, if anything, is appropriate to help a fellow new editor out. Is it good etiquette to leave a note for this author simply calling attention to the existing article? I don't know whether that type of message would belong on the draft's talk page or the user's talk page. Thank you for the advice. Romhilde (talk) 04:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. You can just leave a note on the user's talk page. Since it's not submitted or in article space, there's nothing to do at the moment. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, Abelmoschus Esculentus, for the incredibly fast reply. Romhilde (talk) 04:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

You're welcome. Happy to help :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 04:42, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Performance fabrics

Need Help Hi! greetings of the day, Sir i have made few revisions and improvements,Please review the same, need help how to improve further.ThanksRajiv Sharma (talk) 04:57, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Rajiv Sharma I've moved your question from the Teahouse talk page to this page. The Teahouse talk page is for discussing things related to the running of the Teahouse; it's not really the place for posting questions such as this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

It appears that you are already discussing this at Talk:Performance fabrics#Performance fabrics with Roxy the dog. Article talk pages are usually the best places for such discussions because it makes it easier for other editors who might be interested in the subject matter to participate in the discussion. However, you need to be patient because editors occasionally get busy and might not immediately respond to your posts. Personally, although I think the changes you made were probably done in good faith, I don't think that huge image gallery you added to the article is really an improvement and actually makes the article worse than it would be without it. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:15, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Good grief. -Roxy, the dog. barcus 11:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The gallery of huge photos is gone, and the article is now being mulled over at AfD: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Performance fabrics. David notMD (talk) 20:50, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• This question appears to be related to WP:THQ#Need advice to improve Performance fabrics. Maybe the threads should be combined? -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:03, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Creating a page

Hello ,

I want to create a page with our holy spiritual teacher from India , last I tried but it denied , why I can not create ??

regards Dave dharmendra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dharmendra1311 (talk • contribs) 05:21:40 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello Dharmendra1311. Wikipedia articles have to meet some very strict criteria to be considered for inclusion, mostly the Wikipedia:Notability policy. Basically, your article needs to cite sources that are independent and reliable, such as a major news publication. To prove notability, there should be multiple citations (at least two), and the citations have to mention have to mention the subject of your article in detail (several paragraphs or a whole article, not just a passing mention). Consider consulting the guide at Wikipedia:Your first article for more assistance and if you have more questions about article creation, you can ask the experts at the Articles for Creation Help Desk. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me on my talk page or using one of the reply templates. Good luck. — Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

How to improve article to get published

Hi,

I am working on my draft https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:PlagiarismSearch

I have personally worked with grading students' papers and evaluating them through different plagiarism detection software. I am working on including various checkers in order to enrich Wikipedia, since I have seen a couple of them presented here like Unicheck, Turnitin and others.

Could you please tell me how can I improve my article? I realize that more full coverages are needed rather than mentions. I have to extend my research. Anything else?

Thank you for your help. Regards, Kelsey.— Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎Kelsey2848939 (talk • contribs) 16:19, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

In my opinion the article Plagiarism detection, which you link to in your draft, covers the topic adequately without naming any of the companies that make and market plagiarism detection software, so I see no need for an article about one brand. If you must, then the articles about the companies you mention - Turnitin and Unicheck - are good models. Just don't plagiarize. David notMD (talk) 08:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

infobox

how can i add the infobox to the article— Preceding unsigned comment added by Rollback95 (talk • contribs) 16:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)‎

Hi Rollback95. An infobox is almost always a template which will display various bits of information depending upon how you fill in its parameters. There are variouse types of infobox templates which have been created by Wikipedia editors and you can find out more about how they are used at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Infoboxes and Help:Infobox as well as what types there are at Wikipedia:List of infoboxes. The important thing to remember with templates is that they will only work as they have been set up to work; in other words, you need to use the parameters specifically designated for use with the template as they were intended to be used. If you try to add your own parameters to an infobox or use the designated ones incorrectly, the template will not work properly or at least not as you want it to. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Need help to correct info on my wiki page

Can Someone recommend who can assist in updating adding to my wiki page and photos PLEASE ASSIST warmly Robert — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:230F:F400:41D0:F22F:668E:8FC8 (talk) 09:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Robert, firstly it is not your article or page even if it is written about you. However if there is an article on Wikipedia about yourself, that you want updated, you can suggest changes on the talk page of the article. If you let us know the page then I'm happy to have a look. I would suggest reading WP:COI as well. As for a picture, if you have one of yourself that you have taken (not a professional photo), then you can upload that at our sister project Commons for it to also be added. NZFC^(talk) 10:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Article and profile deleted

Hello,

I wrote a translation of a page about a Spanish philosopher, Marina Garces, the article was deleted as well as my user profile. I find it quite unfair that one man can go around deleting articles rather than trying to improve them. I have no doubt that the content was not completely in line with the English Wikipedia standards, however I think it would have been much more useful to improve the content rather than delete the whole thing. I also have no idea why my user profile was deleted.

How can I appeal against this?

Thanks a lot

Referring to my user page: 14:48, 13 August 2018 Jimfbleak (talk | contribs) deleted page User:Maryleblaireau (U5: Misuse of Wikipedia as a web host) (thank)

Referring to article Marina Garces: Anambiguous advertising or promotion: Article largely consists of quoting her talking about herself, obvious promo/vanity page with few actual facts, sources not all WP:RS. Extent of quotation would justify deletion as copyright violation too. Spanish Wikipedia has different rules.) (thank) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maryleblaireau (talk • contribs) 10:38, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I think Jimfbleak has already explained it quite well on your talk page why it was deleted but a couple of things, the code U5 implies that you stored your draft on your user page, this was probably in error while you worked on it but some people do that as a way to "publish" an article without going through normal review process. Secondly yes, different projects have different rules and what maybe ok on Spanish Wikipedia isn't here. I would suggest you start again in Draft, Jimfbleak has given you example articles to work from and you can use Spanish language articles as references on English Wikipedia also. NZFC^(talk) 10:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Biography Page Deleted

I am Johnnie Cleveland and I am a music artist.My page Johnnie Cleveland was deleted. Kindly guide me what should I do to make It approved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnieCleveland (talk • contribs)

Hello JohnnieCleveland. Welcome to Wikipedia and to our Teahouse. I'm sorry your first efforts here have resulted in your userpage being deleted. By looking at your user talk page, it's clear that you have simply tried to use Wikipedia to promote yourself and your music. (I'm not an administrator, so cannot see any of the deleted content, but I can advise you that userpages are only to introduce yourself as a Wikipedia editor and to say a little about yourself and your interests in editing Wikipedia. It most definitely is not here to promote yourself as an artist, as you appear to have done there, and in the articles you appear to have tried to create about yourself.) You may recreate your userpage, providing you don't promote yourself there. It's OK to briefly say you sing and write music, but not to push your business interests. Just tell other users why you're here on Wikipedia and your interests in editing. See WP:USERPAGE for what you can and can't use that page for.

Also, Wikipedia is WP:NOTFACEBOOK - we only care about you if you meet our notability guidelines. Most humans on this planet don't. See WP:NMUSICIAN and assess whether you actually do. If you do - and if independent sources have written about you in depth - then maybe an uninvolved editor might feel you're worth creating an article about. If you don't, I'd advise you to get a private website and promote yourself there. It's never a good idea to try to write about yourself - see WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY, and the need to declare a Conflict of Interest. Of course, if you are on the music circuit and really want to help Wikipedia, why not take and upload some great close-up photos of fellow musicians for anyone to use? We have a page called WP:TOOSOON, and maybe one day the musicians you know - including yourself - will indeed meet Wikipedia's notability criteria, and the photos will be there and available to be used. Until then, regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 12:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Why have almost all the photos of paintings I've uploaded to wikipedia commons and used in my document been taken down?

The photos of paintings I have uploaded to wikipedia commons all have permissions emails sent by the holders of the copyrights. Some were held by me and sent from my email, some were held by others and were sent from their emails. Three were held by an elderly artist who does not have her own email, so I typed up a sheet and had her sign her approval. I scanned the sheet and attached it to an email from me.

Most of these have been taken down over the past few months, and I don't know why. Is there a quick and easy and correct way I can upload all these photos again so that they "stick"? The photo upload process is very very confusing, and I have no idea what I did wrong…or why they've only now been taken down.

The ones taken down were:

Red Tulips by Shirley Aley Campbell

Mary Rose Oakar by Shirley Aley Campbell

Vietnamese Family by Shirley Aley Campbell

Guarded Idealist by Judy Takács

Kim, the Keeper of time by Judy Takács

Tangible and Intangible by Marilyn Szalay

Timmy by Marilyn Szalay

Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by GuerillaGirl53 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

This page is to advise on edits to the English Wikipedia. Wikimedia Commons is a separate project, so you ought to ask the questions there. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@GuerillaGirl53: Please see your talk page at Commons:

→ C:User talk:GuerillaGirl53

for explanations given on files' deletion. --CiaPan (talk) 14:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

How can I be Auto Confirmed so i can create an article

Hello, Please, I'm having issues creating a Biography, I really need help as it is very urgent. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valegal1 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The criteria are defined at WP:autoconfirmed. Prior to that you can submit a draft for review through the WP:AFC process; it would be unwise for you to try to create a new article directly in mainspace as a new editor. Please read the advice at WP:Your first article. I'm surprised that you say "it is very urgent" as there is no deadline. If you are trying to write about yourself, the advice is "don't"; see WP:autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:59, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you but there is a deadline for me cos it's about work. I'm trying to create a Biography for someone. So what would you advise? Do I post the draft of the Biography and send for review? Hopefully, it's approved and can I do that on my user page? David Biddulph (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valegal1 (talk • contribs) 15:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

If you are editing as part of your job, it is mandatory for you to read and comply with WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

NOT your User page. That is a place for brief description of who you are and what your intentions are as a Wikipedia editor. You have a Sandbox - that is a place to work on a draft. Of much greater importance, you must declare your PAID relationship. Paid work is not forbidden, but there are restrictions. David notMD (talk) 16:23, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I'm sorry, Valegal1, but nothing on Wikipedia is urgent, except removing certain things with legal implications. The fact that you think that this is urgent suggests that you have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Wikipedia is for. Promotion of any kind (which means "telling the world about something") is forbidden. --ColinFine (talk) 16:46, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Done --ColinFine (talk) Valegal1 (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you I'm new here so I didn't understand a lot of things, I'll be patient and I understand the process now. I just sent a draft article and it said it would take at least 8 weeks or more to eview. I'll be patient. Thank you. ColinFine (talk) David notMD (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Valegal1 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@Valegal1: - you still have not declared a conflict of interest on your user page. As you referencing the fact that you are editing for work, you are not compliant with paid editing guidelines, and may be blocked or banned if you fail to remedy this with a declaration of your relationship to the subject of your draft; you must further divulge the fact you are being paid to edit (if this is the case) as soon as possible. Patience is appreciated, particularly at Articles for Creation, but failure to remedy these issues will dramatically impact the passage of your draft towards main-space, as alluded to by Theroadislong. Please manage your conflict of interest using these guidelines. Thanks, Stormy clouds (talk) 17:21, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Done --ColinFine (talk) Stormy clouds (talk) Valegal1 (talk) 17:32, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

If this is about Draft:Babatunde Irukera your User page does not have a PAID declaration and the Talk page for that draft does not have a declaration. So, not done. David notMD (talk) 20:56, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

New Wiki Page

Hi I wanted to create a wikipedia page, of someone whom I admire and he is extremely talented and unbelievably famous! But I wonder he doesnt have a wiki page. Also even his coworkers have their wiki pages and surprisingly none of their pages has his name mentioned even after doing shows together.

Unfortunately he is all over, but not here in the wikipedia.

Being a Genuine Admirer, I need your help and assistance to create his page.

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.224.54 (talk) 14:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• If you're going to write an article about anyone or anything, here are the steps you should follow:

1) Choose a topic whose notability is attested by discussions of it in several reliable independent sources. (His coworkers being notable does not matter).

2) Gather as many professionally-published mainstream academic or journalistic sources you can find.

3) Focus on just the ones that are not dependent upon or affiliated with the subject, but still specifically about the subject and providing in-depth coverage (not passing mentions). If you do not have at least three such sources, the subject is not yet notable and trying to write an article at this point will only fail.

4) Summarize those sources from step 2, adding citations at the end of them. You'll want to do this in a program with little/no formatting, like Microsoft Notepad or Notepad++, and not in something like Microsoft Word or LibreOffice Writer.

5) Combine overlapping summaries (without arriving at new statements that no individual source supports) where possible, repeating citations as needed.

6) Paraphrase the whole thing just to be extra sure you've avoided any copyright violations or plagiarism.

7) Use the Article wizard to post this draft and wait for approval.

8) Expand the article using sources you put aside in step 2 (but make sure they don't make up more than half the sources for the article, and make sure that affiliated sources don't make up more than half of that).

Doing something besides those steps typically results in the article not being approved, or even in its deletion. Ian.thomson (talk) 15:00, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to Help me guys im poor but need a ghost typer

anyone able to write a Article about Icynexstar i have pictures and info all i need is someone who has the time — Preceding unsigned comment added by Icynexstar (talk • contribs) 15:03, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

• @Icynexstar: - the original request is archived here, and was responded to by yours truly. The answer remains the same, so I will copy and paste it here in hopes (perhaps futile) of more comprehension and engagement on behalf of the OP - In relation to your query, I am afraid that you are likely out of luck. You appear to have a common misunderstanding of Wikipedia. We don't write "wikis" about people who ask for one. We write encyclopedic articles about subjects which satisfy the notability guidelines, using citations from reliable sources. A google search shows that you don't satisfy our threshold for notability, as your web presence is minimal beyond self-created Genius pages. Moreover, having you have a conflict of interest in editing matters related to yourself and your corpus of work, and shouldn't seek an autobiography. Besides, an article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing. As such, alas, an article about you is not a possibility in the foreseeable future. However, with improved penmanship and grammar, and perusal of our pillars, you could become a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, and I urge you to attempt to do so. Hope this helps, and don't hesitate to ask any further questions. The answer, similar to the question, is unchanged. Hopefully, you will need it this time. It is worth noting that editors are unpaid volunteers, and have no obligation to edit outside of topics which interest them. Thus, being poor won't coerce people to pen a promotional puff-piece on your behalf. Nonetheless, perhaps in can, I hope this helps, Stormy clouds (talk) 15:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC).

  If it's any consolation, Icynexstar, once you have made a name for yourself as a musician, perhaps some fan or other editor will create an article about you then. If you are indeed an upcoming rapper, then over time you may become notable enough to have an encyclopedic article written about you.

  With that said, be thankful you don't have an article about yourself yet; if you ever do, it will not be within your control and will serve as a place for documenting your public life. Many notable subjects do not like having articles about themselves, especially since certain personal information and controversies are often documented there, too. We occasionally find musicians and celebrities creating accounts to delete content from biographies about them, only for that content to be restored minutes later because the inclusion of that information is not their decision. Perhaps one day, you will be faced with that curse of fame, but until then, focus on your art and let it speak for itself. If it's good enough, others will notice it and write about you without you having to ask. —Nøkkenbuer (talk • contribs) 14:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Bot deleted my sandbox

This appeared on my sandbox:

A page with this title has previously been moved or deleted.

If you are creating a new page with different content, please continue. If you are recreating a page similar to the previously deleted page, or are unsure, please first contact the user(s) who performed the action(s) listed below.

00:58, 4 April 2018 Fastily (talk | contribs) deleted page User talk:SheridanFord/sandbox (G8: Talk page of a deleted or non-existent page) (thank)

How can I retrieve my sandbox info? Is it in some graveyard somewhere I can retrieve? sheridanford (talk) 15:31, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

It wasn't a bot that deleted your abandoned sandbox, it was an administrator; see the deletion log. --David Biddulph (talk) 15:37, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@SheridanFord: Done – as a draft or Articles for creation submission deleted under CSD G13, the page has been restored upon request. Drafts and Articles for creation are not for the indefinite hosting of material found to be unsuitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia. The old edits are now visible in the page history of User:SheridanFord/sandbox. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:29, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Councilman Curtis Jones Jr.

What happen Councilman Curtis Jones Jr. page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 11Kenneth11 (talk • contribs) 16:02, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I suggest creating a new section. -A lad insane (Channel 2) 16:22, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

@11Kenneth11: Your answer is at WP:Articles for deletion/Curtis J. Jones Jr.

My publication of how to can see all the 61 elementary particles in one picture is now in "International Journal of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, Vol 4, No.2, 2018, pp.42-49.

I did a lot of work that also a Nonmathematician could understand an see direct the system of the smallest particles of the matter of the Universe. Therefore I would be happy when the Fundamental Particles of the CERN brick box could be seen as 61 Particles connected with the important Higgs particle. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsch31 (talk • contribs)

@Hsch31:. That's nice. Do you have a question about Wikipedia? – Joe (talk) 17:35, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

RELATED TO CONTRIBUTION IN WIKIPEDIA

HOW TO PUBLISH MY CREATING PAGE AND WHAT ARE REQUIRED TIME IN PUBLISHING? — Preceding unsigned comment added by JANGVEER SINGH RAKESH (talk • contribs)

@JANGVEER SINGH RAKESH: Please don't shout! Typing in capital letters is considered rude and aggressive, though your username in capitals is fine. What page are you looking to publish? I can see no draft in your contributions of anything ready to publish. You might like to read Wikipedia:Your first article. Please also note that your userpage must not be in the form of an article about you, nor should it be in a non-English language, nor contain material similar to a Wikipedia main article, nor a self-promotional website. These are issues you need to address immediately. For guidance on this, please read WP:USERPAGE and WP:NOTWEBHOST.

• I would advise you to speedily remove all that content on your userpage before someone proposes your userpage for deletion on the grounds of self-promotion.
• I also advise you to remove all your poems from your talk page - that is not what it's for at all. Talk pages are only there to discuss issues about editing Wikipedia, and this should only be conducted in the English language.

That said, there's nothing to stop you saying a little bit about yourself and your interests in editing Wikipedia on your userpage - indeed that's what it's for ...just don't treat Wikipedia as a free webhosting service to promote your poetry and other works. Accounts like these quickly get blocked from editing. We are here to build an encyclopaedia, and of course we'd welcome your assistance with that. Should you eventually want to prepare a draft article for publication, you can submit it for review at Articles for Creation, and it can take up to a few weeks for a volunteer to review and give you feedback on it. In the meantime please remove the content I have referred to above before someone completely deletes both your userpage and your talk page for you. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 19:17, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Amalia, New Mexico compound

Should I turn the history section into a standalone article? There is so much media coverage ( [4] [5] [6] [7]). Would it be too WP:NOTNEWS? What could it be named? Is this already an article? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:16, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

I wish someone could go to Seneca king, Barber and make edits. He is notable of not a Bezos. He has done a lot.

I have gone to the editing trainings. I look at your templates. I program and yet I find the editing on wikipedia very difficult. Even answering and communicating in Tea House is hard. Yet, I have good editing and writing skills.

1. I do not understand why the Seneca King , Barber page is not acceptable. There are many newspaper articles written about him. I wish someone could go to Seneca king, Barber and make edits. He is notable of not a Bezos, so I understand you don't think he is a notable entrepreneur. He has done a lot, however, and he is a notable barber. So, why is that rejected. Just delete what is not appropriate. Certainly the whole thing contains many good, referenced parts. If a reference is not allowed, take that citation out and request one. I will find another citation

2. I would like to make a page on the New Arthurian Economics. My experience with Seneca's page has discouraged me so much. Can I start that as a stub and have others edit it? How do I do that. There are articles published in European economics journals on this topic.

3. Can you simplify your instructions. For example...You say put 4 tildas when you sign out. (THe question is where...Before? After? Both?) Another example: The notification says I got an email but I do not know where to find it. I did not see it in my gmail account yet, I do not see emails on Wikipedia. Thank you for clarifications on these and all instructions for editors.

Thank you.

Jaeze (talk) 21:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)Jaeze Jaeze (talk) 21:28, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Sorry this has been so frustrating. I Googled Seneca King and can't find enough sourcing to suggest an article will be successfully accepted. I'm also not sure that Arthur F. Shipman or New Arthurian Economics have enough coverage either. Please read WP:RS. If you can find sourcing, your best bet is to draft the article in your sandbox, and then come back and ask for help reviewing before you submit it. Click here to start it. Special:MyPage/sandbox TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 21:40, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Jaeze. Like many people who try editing Wikipedia for the first time, you are wanting to go straight into creating a new article: this is both one of the more difficult activities in Wikipedia, and also often one of the least helpful. Unless the subject is very obviously notable (in the special sense in which Wikipedia uses the word), even a successful article on it may be a less valuable return on the effort than improving some of our millions of sub-standard articles. I suggest you read WP:your first article.

Your other questions: please don't start a stub. In my opinion, there is no place for new stubs in Wikipedia in 2018: they were a symptom of an earlier state of the project, but today, the way to start is with a draft, which will only get moved to main article space when it is good enough to be accepted as an article.

Finally - you sign at the end of any post on a talk or discussion page (like this one) - not when editing articles! --ColinFine (talk) 23:53, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Help with references

I am FARRR too lazy to use refernces, so can you add some sort of auto ref system? Addust (talk) 21:54, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh dear, Addust. Maybe Wikipedia won't suit you then! References really are essential for Verifiability to support almost everything we add to this encyclopaedia, and simple opinions (and silly comments in articles) will swiftly get removed. Did you realise that many references to books, newspapers and websites can be automatically inserted using the Visual Editor. It's more WISYWIG than our source editor, though many long-term editors do tend to prefer the latter. If you need help with this, just let us know. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:30, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Even using the source editor, most references are straightforward when the "cite" templates are used. It's just a matter of filling in a few boxes in "cite web", "cite news", "cite book", or "cite journal" template. People who turn to Wikipedia for information deserve to know the sources of that information. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:01, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

You still have to use references, but Wikipedia:REFILL can be a help. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

REPLY from Addust: You could just add it so if you add the name of an arcticle in an edit, it automatically becomes a reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Addust (talk • contribs) 08:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:REFILL is a bit like that. You add the bare url between the reftags <ref></ref>, save the page and then use the refill tool. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:46, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Addust blocked. David notMD (talk) 10:36, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Oh well, one can only try. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:18, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

How do you change the photo in the bio box?

Hello,

Can anyone provide guidance on how to change the photo that appears in the profile box for an entry about a person? I'm a new editor.

Thanks,

John — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnwcote (talk • contribs) 23:55, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

The image used in the box is designated in the "image" line in the infobox template. Changing it requires substituting another image's file name. Eddie Blick (talk) 00:04, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Johnwcote. Changing an infobox image is fairly easy to do; you just need to replace the current image with another one as explained above. However, you can only use images which are already uploaded to either Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons; in other words, you cannot add images found on external websites, unless you upload them to Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons first. Before you upload any images though, you should carefully look at Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Non-free content and c:Commons:Licensing because only certains types of content can be uploaded and used in Wikipedia articles and how such content can be used largely depends upon its copyright status. In addition to copyright matters, changing an infobox image can sometimes be a contentious thing to do and it's often a good idea to be cautious and propose such a change first on the article's talk page. You're not required to do so, and perhaps nobody will have a problem with the new image; if, however, someone does contest the change by reverting your edit, please follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and discuss things on the article talk page.

Finally, I'm curious about this edit sum for one of your edits to Dennis Herrera. All of the edits you've made with this account have been made to the Herrera artcle, so I'm assuming you question here at the Teahouse is also related to Herrera. Anyway, you refered to the article as "our page" in the aforementioned edit sum, so I'm wondering if that means you are connected in someway to Herrera. If you are connected to him, either personally or professionally, then you would most likely be considered to have a Wikipedia:Conflict of interest with respect to anything written about him on Wikipedia. Wikipedia doesn't explicitly prohibit conflict-of-interest editing, but it does highly discourage it because it can lead to some serious problems. So, if you do have such a conflict, please read Wikipedia:Plain and simple conflict of interest guide and follow the guidelines listed on that page as closely as possible. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia's guidelines for vulgar language?

Hi everyone, I'm attempting to copy edit this page for tone: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gag_name The text has quite a bit of vulgar language (and I'm wondering if that isn't why it was flagged for editing). My question is, essentially, is that okay? I have no issue with strong language but I am unfamiliar with Wikipedia's standards for that kind of thing. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Citrivescence (talk • contribs) 01:10, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Citrivescence: Yes, it's OK for the purpose being used in that article, particularly since most examples are vulgar. See also the policy Wikipedia is not censored. It would not be OK to use vulgar language in article prose, but perfectly fine in quotations and relevant examples. ~Anachronist (talk) 01:12, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

infobox

someone help me enter the the template infobox bus accident to the article 2018 kiryandongo bus accident — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rollback95 (talk • contribs) 05:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

@Rollback95: could you explain what help you need? There's an infobox on 2018 Kiryandongo Bus Accident already, which you added and another editor moved to the top of the article. What's the current problem? › Mortee _talk 10:23, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

SEO tools list

Hi, I was just wondering why the page called "List of SEO tools" redirects to Search Engine optimization#Methods - there is no real mention of tools to use here. A list like this is a bit hard to find. Everyone is posting their preferences, but there is no definitive, informative list of everything on the market. And I do believe an informative list like this would be helpful to many people. So, since there are other lists on Wikipedia, my question is - why not this one?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CorraNoire (talk • contribs) 09:19, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Such a list would be a magnet for promotional editors wanting to use Wikipedia as advertising for their SEO tool. See WP:NOTADVERTISING, WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Iffy★Chat -- 10:25, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

CorraNoire We can only have such a page if independent reliable sources have published such lists. If not, it's not a notable topic. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 10:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

(edit conflict)

Hello CorraNoire and welcome to the Teahouse.

If you examine the history of List of SEO Tools, you'll see that in 2010 or so, there was an attempt at an article. It was turned into a redirect because the article was unreferenced and too incomplete to be considered useful. And it is never Wikipedia's goal to have a list of "everything on the market". Opinions about SEO as an activity are quite varied and the Methods section mentions the distinction between "black hat" and "white hat" approaches. That sort of controversy is going to make creating a list on WP rather hard. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 10:34, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Advice sought for connecting references with the statements they support

I recently introduced an error into Wikipedia trying to add to the arcticle Scrabo Tower. I went to the local library, found some books talking about it, returned home and added some text to the article, then added in-line citations but got it wrong by mixing up my sources. Obviously, I must be more careful and take detailed notes when at the library. Nobody noticed and I found out later when I went back to the library to add a page number that I had forgotten to mention. I then added quotes in the citations, but that seems not to be often done in Wikipedia. I find that often, even when citing a page in a source, it does not really become clear which statement in the source substantiates which statement in the article. Do you have advice for me? With many thanks Johannes Schade (talk) 10:20, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Johannes Schade thank you for your diligence in correcting that mistake. Adding quotations in ordinary references is often unnecessary, since a reference is typically a news article or a couple of pages of a book, and it's reasonable to expect a reader to look over the whole thing if they're interested in following up a claim on Wikipedia. That said, it can be useful particularly if the statement in the source is oblique. It's really up to you how much you want to use them. My suggestion would be to generally not give quotes, but put them in where you feel they add value. I'm sorry not to be more specific. For what it's worth, I've looked over to your edits to Helen's Tower and I think you've improved that article greatly. Welcome to Wikipedia! › Mortee _talk 22:07, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Removal or renaming of content

There is a page on the Isle of Man Portal referring to "Manx Electricity Authority: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Manx_Electricity_Authority&action=edit

This no longer exists.... the service is now called Manx Utilities as its both Water and Electricity. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.10.102.252 (talk) 13:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I've updated the article to note this. However in future, if you see things like this you should consider being bold and making the changes yourself. Everyone is welcome to make constructive changes to Wikipedia! Neiltonks (talk) 16:05, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Help reviewing potential article for creation

Hi, thanks in advance for taking time to read my question! I am working as a paid contributor to submit a page for eFax.com on behalf of j2 Global. I have ensured that the copy is factually, neutrally written and well sourced. My previous attempt to submit the page was nominated for Speedy Deletion for lack of notability and was indeed deleted quickly. I have worked to improve the article, and would like to resubmit, but I am hoping I can get someone to review the article first to provide any input and feedback. I have discussed this personally with other Wikipedia editors that I know to get some feedback, which I've incorporated, but I'm hoping to get some fresh eyes and input before I submit again. What is the best way to approach this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mixedmediamaven (talk • contribs) 15:16, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Mixedmediamaven. Thank you for declaring your status. You don't seem to have created a draft since your previous draft was deleted, so there is nothing to review. If you mean that you are hoping to get somebody to review it outside of Wikipedia, then I for one would not be interested in doing so: that is not how we work here. Frankly, if you are asking for that, and also noting the number of your contributions to date, I don't understand how you can in conscience represent yourself as somebody who is competent to edit Wikipedia for pay. I'm sorry to be blunt, but I think that honesty is more useful in this context. If I am misreading the situation, I apologise. --ColinFine (talk) 17:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi ColinFine. Thank you so much for your reply, and I apologize for any confusion; I have not yet published the draft but do intend to do so in order to have it reviewed. To eliminate any further confusion, I have submitted the draft to my sandbox. I would certainly not ask or expect anyone to do so outside of Wikipedia. I was not sure if there was a better (more preferable to other editors) method for getting it looked at before actually submitting to AfC.

My contributions are indeed limited with this account as this will be my first paid contribution. I have contributed to Wikipedia as a volunteer in the past, but wanted to be sure to be completely by the book in terms of this entry. My uncertainty for this project is mainly centered in wanting to ensure that everything I do is aboveboard, transparent, and in keeping with Wikipedia's standards. I truly appreciate your honest and direct feedback, as it's exactly what I'm in search of. --Mixedmediamaven (talk) 02:18, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Does a college course offered as part of a graduate program at an accredited program qualify as a notable subject for an article??

I am a teaching assistant for a course being taught at a large public college in the US. My professor has asked me to research the possibility of creating a Wikipedia article for the class that could be used as a reference by the students in the class. I am wondering if this would qualify as a "notable" worthy topic for an article. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhns 03 (talk • contribs) 17:21, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Lhns 03. The question I would ask is, which reliable published sources (such as major newspapers, or books from reputable publishers) have contained extended information about your course, not deriving from anybody connected with the course? If, as I expect, the answer is "None", then your course is not notable and not a suitable subject for a Wikipedia article.

I'm not quite clear what you're trying to achieve: I'd be very surprised if your professor accepted references to Wikipedia articles in assignments, as Wikipedia is not a reliable source, being edited by anybody. If your professor wants somewhere for you all to communicate among yourselves, a wiki might be a way of doing it, but not Wikipedia. You might want to take a look at WP:Educational program. --ColinFine (talk) 18:15, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Lhns 03, the link ColinFine meant to give you is actually WP:Education program. I have created a redirect Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 00:04, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

how do i include a reference/link that backs up what i wrote and how does the corresponding number get added in the text, newbie here on wiki.ty

how do i include a reference in the list below a page and the number in the text that corresponds with it? a newbie here so i got little experience yet with wikipedia. thanks for any advice. bryan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutchmzungu (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello, Dutchmzungu, and welcome to the Teahouse. Please read referencing for beginners both for how to add references, and how to identify acceptable sources to reference. --ColinFine (talk) 18:08, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

I also added a quick little something to his talk page, since it's something that I use. Fyunck(click) (talk) 22:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

article's quality classification

Hi people! I'm just trying to find an article that describes the article's quality classification. Does anybody could help me? Thank you. Greetings Lu Brito (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Content assessment – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 17:57, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Inclusion of external link

I tried to include, in the article about John Michael Greer, a page which I maintain, listing his works. The article has a history of discussion about providing a list of his works; I decided that a good compromise would be to include a list maintained outside of Wikipedia. However, the inclusion was reverted by an automated system. Is there anything that can be done to make this external site compliant?

--Packshaud (talk) 18:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hey Packshaud. The link addition was reverted because wordpress is essentially just a blogging service, and blogs are generally not to be linked to according to policy except in a few circumstances, such as when the blog is written by a recognized authority on the subject. GMG^talk 19:29, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

how to publish

Hi there, I have been trying to publish this article since yesterday with no success I am also trying to upload a picture, I can't even see where This is so confusing. Who can help ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by LongShotCandidate (talk • contribs) 19:39, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I recommend you read WP:Your first article and the instructions in the File Upload Wizard. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 21:56, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

It looks like you are asking about User:LongShotCandidate/sandbox. Just click the "submit your draft for review" button I added. You should still read the pages above before submitting, to see if the page meets Wikipedia's notability guidelines. — pythoncoder  (talk | contribs) 21:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

By the way, if you intend to submit an article about "Jean-Philibert Mabaya Gizi Amine" then that should be the title, not LongShotCandidate. Really. David notMD (talk) 22:44, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

The draft article is unsourced, and the subject may have challenges meeting Wikipedia's notability standards, from what I can find about him. You might also want to read Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Common outcomes#Candidates. Unless he's elected, it would also be a case of WP:TOOSOON. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

timtempleton, the draft says that this person has been an elected Senator in the Democratic Republic of Congo since 2006. Accordingly, he meets the notability guideline for politicians if this can be verified. Obviously, the draft article needs to be referenced before it can be accepted. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:13, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Here is a French language Congolese news article that identifies him as a Senator and head of an opposition political movement. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 01:25, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

spacing error in new article title?

I just posted another article about a member of the Virginia Constitutional Convention of 1868, who also served in the House of Delegates (and so meets the notability guideline). Though I changed the Virginia Constitutional Convention link associated with the Albemarle County delegate to reflect his first name rather than initial, the link doesn't go to the article I just added. Since this laptop has a spacebar problem, I suspect that I didn't actually add a space between his middle initial and surname, which would cause the broken link. However, I cannot see it, nor correct it. I would appreciate some help here. I know these 19th century politicians seem pretty trivial, but I have met historians who appreciate my work. Thanks.Jweaver28 (talk) 21:00, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Is this about Clifton L.Thompson? It would be more helpful to tell us what article the problem is in, rather than why you believe he's notable. Maproom (talk) 21:38, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Image editing

I remember there is somewhere on this website where volunteers can do simple image editing. I want to request some editing of an image... could someone point me in the right direction? With thanks, --Tom (LT) (talk) 23:55, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Tom (LT) I think you're looking for the WP:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 23:59, 15 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for :). --Tom (LT) (talk) 00:06, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

The Wrath of Vajra

Can you please add more reliable source and plot. Apollo C. Quiboloy fans (talk) 01:47, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi Apollo C. Quiboloy fans. You can be WP:BOLD and try to improve the article yourself. Articles are pretty much exoected to be WP:IMPERFECT and improved over time through collaborative editing. Improve what you can, and then perhaps somebody will follow up what you started and make further improvements. If someone reverts/undos any changes you make, just follow Wikipedia:Dispute resolution and discuss things on the article talk page. You might find some helpful tips on writing plot summaries in Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:59, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Winnipeg Table Hockey League (WTHL) Nominate for deletion?

So I prod-ed this article as I thought it didn't meet WP:NSPORTS, WP:CLUB or WP:GNG requires, the person who created the article Scapizzi removed the nomination saying it met WP:CLUB due to their activities being National and significant coverage. I don't want to get into a deletion discussion here as I know its not the place but I'm not sure if I should be taking the next step and AFD the article. The National coverage Scapizzi talks about is just the fact that the sport is a National sport, not that this league played National league as far as I can tell. As for the significant coverage, most of it is local news and the organisation own websites. I'm happy if I'm wrong, but it feels more like an advert for the league and the game. NZFC^(talk)(cont) 01:50, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

I removed a bunch of unsourced stuff and also the logo which is a copyright violation to the organization's website. I'm not seeing notability, but I try not to get involved in sports related notability discussions. Thanks, NZFC. John from Idegon (talk) 05:00, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Changing User name

hey i am trying to change my user name can any one help me getting set up — Preceding unsigned comment added by Digitalvybzmusic (talk • contribs) 02:05, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

@Digitalvybzmusic: see Wikipedia:Changing username. Since you haven't made many edits, you could just create a new account with the desired username. That way, you wouldn't have to go through the bureaucracy of changing your user name. If you did that, it would probably be a good idea to let people know by adding a note to your new account's user page. For example, you might write, "My previous account was Digitalvybzmusic." NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 02:43, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Pages created by trolls

I'm aware that if a troll/vandal creates a page, beneficial or not, it will have to be deleted in accordance with WP:DENY, however, what if the page is on an extremely notable subject? Would it still have to be deleted? I'm guessing that the loophole around this rule is for the page to be recreated by a good-faith contributor, but what if the page was discovered to have been created by a troll far too late? Would it just have to remain, with little regard to DENY? SimpsonsFan94 (talk) 05:15, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi SimpsonsFan94. The information you're probably looking for can be found in WP:EVADE. -- Marchjuly (talk) 05:53, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Follow-up to How do I make an image appear at the browser's width?

I am trying to display an image in the browser, not as a thumbnail, but at the browser's width.

The advice given so far was:

{{wide image|Helsinki z00.jpg|1800px|[[Helsinki]] panorama - based on example from Template:wide image|100%|center

Unfortunately, this makes the image full size, within the browser's window width, so there is a horizontal scroll bar. Not the image scaled to fit the browser window.

Can this be done?

Keybounce (talk) 05:54, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Hello again Keybounce and good to see you back at the Teahouse.

I noticed, as I moved from computer to computer, and that image was still on the Teahouse, that sometimes I got a scroll bar and sometimes I didn't. Different screen widths and OSes and browsers. How to force it to always scale rather than scroll, I'm afraid I don't know. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:01, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

article for creation

there is no article named catalogue market.it must be created as soon as possible because many people are waiting for that