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Criticism is long enough it can be moved to a separate article. More on the business and economics of Uber. What is the arranged percentage that Uber takes away from rides and is it economical? -[[User:Inowen|Inowen]] ([[User talk:Inowen|nlfte]]) 22:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC) |
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Protests and legal actions
Do we need this section here? It is redundant with the article Uber protests and legal actions. Are we going to list the regulatory actions of every city as it relates to TNCs? Some of the protests and legal actions are also not specific to Uber; they apply to all TNCs. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.68.93 (talk) 22:04, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
The caption of the first image on the right in this section "Uber drivers on strike at Montparnasse, Paris, February 3, 2016" doesn't correspond to any incident mentioned in the article, or on the separate Uber protests article. It also seems unlikely, so where has this come from? RobsterUK (talk) 03:44, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
What is it?
I heard that Uber was big, so I looked it up to see what it is. I had to read a fair bit to read between the lines that probably it is a taxi service that does not have a regular team of drivers, but anyone can offer their services. So a bit like 3D Hubs, but for taxis? Ah, I now refer to '3D Hubs' as if everyone already knows what that is. Maybe that is the problem here, that so far the editors have assumed that readers already know what Uber is. Well I didn't, and came here precisely to fing that out. So could someone please write a 'Uber for dummies' intro? :) DirkvdM (talk) 15:41, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
- Hi @DirkvdM: You might want to check the Uber article on the Simple English Wikipedia or Real-time ridesharing for more information on the topic. Have a nice day! Daylen (talk) 18:55, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the links, but my main point was that the article isn't clear about this. In other words, don't just put that info here, but put it in the intro of the article.DirkvdM (talk) 15:09, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
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180 Days Of Change
I have added the 180 Days Of Change to the Uber (company) page in order to show how Uber is making changes to make the experience better for driver-partners. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdeno (talk • contribs) 23:22, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Security
I just got an email from Norton (whose antivirus I used to use) telling me that Uber has announced a security breach. I expect it is true, and might be worth mentioning in this article. Andrewa (talk) 22:09, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- It's already mentioned in the article. See "User privacy and data breaches". --Yamla (talk) 22:11, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- So it is! Uber (company)#User privacy and data breaches covers it. The TOC is so long I missed it completely, and several searches using our own search facility turned up nothing. And the section itself is overly long IMO. Some refactoring for better navigation, perhaps even splitting out some more detailed articles and/or creating some redirects to sections and/or anchors, might be good. Andrewa (talk) 22:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- Yeap. It's a big problem with the article and I'm not surprised in the least that you couldn't find it initially. I'm being quite serious, here. A bunch of information was split out into a separate article, Uber protests and legal actions. The data breach you are talking about, does it belong in this article or in the other one? It's not clear to me. Maybe it belongs here until the civil or criminal action starts, and then it should be moved? And wherever it goes, it's going to get lost. There's simply too much content of this sort of nature, with regard to Uber. It's a real problem. --Yamla (talk) 22:23, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
- So it is! Uber (company)#User privacy and data breaches covers it. The TOC is so long I missed it completely, and several searches using our own search facility turned up nothing. And the section itself is overly long IMO. Some refactoring for better navigation, perhaps even splitting out some more detailed articles and/or creating some redirects to sections and/or anchors, might be good. Andrewa (talk) 22:19, 27 November 2017 (UTC)
Ownership
Can we get a section? Is this helpful? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:58, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
Account
My Account has been hacked and I want to close my account. I could not sign in dto do that. could I please have a contact phone number so I can close my account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.253.16.204 (talk) 21:09, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
- You are confused. This is Wikipedia, an online encyclopedia. We have nothing to do with Uber. You'll need to contact them directly. --Yamla (talk) 21:29, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
Requested move 20 January 2018
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The result of the move request was: Moved per request. The consensus is Uber is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC here. —usernamekiran(talk) 00:57, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
– Unlike Apple, Amazon, and Tinder, there is no topic of longstanding historical importance to compete for the primary topic claim against the company, which receives about ten times as many page views as all other reasonably matching topics combined - even those with the umlaut. bd2412 T 21:23, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support. A clear WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. - Station1 (talk) 21:57, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
- If moving the dab it should be to Über (disambiguation) with umlaut. In ictu oculi (talk) 09:09, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- I'm curious, why do you think so? Uber-the-company doesn't use the umlaut and I imagine most English speakers would type in 'Uber' instead of 'Über', no matter what they were searching for. To be clear, I'm not saying I think you are wrong, you may very well be correct; I'm asking why you think we should use the umlaut for the dab. --Yamla (talk) 13:42, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- I agree the dab page should preferably be at Über (disambiguation). The only other articles using the title "Uber" are Über, Über (album), and Über (comics), all of which use the umlaut. But the proposed name is also okay. Station1 (talk) 04:40, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed Red Slash 04:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. The word "uber" has been around a lot longer than the company and clearly has other meanings as the disambig page shows. I'm not convinced that the company is the primary topic here. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:45, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support per WP:SMALLDETAILS. Uber without the umlaut definitely primarily refers to the driving company. Über and Uber are distinctly different and can be treated as different per SMALLDETAILS. Uber, the company, receives many more page views then other pages of the same name. CookieMonster755✉ 20:46, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
- Comment – Wikipedia is not a dictionary is relevant to this discussion. CookieMonster755✉ 16:18, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose per Rreagan007. Dicklyon (talk) 03:32, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support, primary topic by a gigantic margin, nothing else on that dab page is in the same realm of notability. The word is already at Über and would be unaffected by this move. —Xezbeth (talk) 20:38, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
- Uber-support. Okay, seriously? Words in English are usually subordinate to real-life things. See Nice Red Slash 04:22, 23 January 2018 (UTC) (edit: also, move the dab page to the title with umlauts Red Slash 04:53, 26 January 2018 (UTC))
- Support per nom. Über has its own page. — AjaxSmack 01:58, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support the German word Über is the only other thing that could possibly be a primary topic, and it both has an umlaut and is a dictdef. power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:32, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
- Oppose. Yet another attempt to force a WP:PRIMARYTOPIC where there isn't one, where a move is guaranteed to result in the accumulation of uncheckable bad links. Narky Blert (talk) 04:03, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- How many links do you seriously expect to be made to Uber that are not intended for the company? bd2412 T 01:31, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- One is too many. Narky Blert (talk) 00:17, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
- How many links do you seriously expect to be made to Uber that are not intended for the company? bd2412 T 01:31, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Weak support. I was reluctant to support but Uber (company) significantly has higher views than all the other Uber pages combined. — Zawl 16:00, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support Never understood why this page had (company) next to it. Uber is a well-known enough company to not need this. Über has its own page so I don't see any conflict. ThaiTee (talk) 17:17, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support. WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
- Support Daylen (talk) 04:55, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
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2017 profit or loss update
Could someone please update the section? Thanks! Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:09, 18 February 2018 (UTC)
Split the article (at least the "Legal status by country" section)
The "Legal status by country" section takes up almost half the article. It currently links to the "Uber protests and legal actions" article, but it's not really about the same topic. I suggest moving the "Legal status by country" section to its own (new) article, and leaving only a summary here about the legal status around the world, with an anchor to the main article. Would anyone oppose such a move? Saturnalia0 (talk) 04:26, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
Self-driving Uber kills Arizona woman in first fatal crash involving pedestrian
I do not have permission to include this: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/19/uber-self-driving-car-kills-woman-arizona-tempe Could anyone include it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.143.164.15 (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
Done Chetsford (talk) 18:19, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
- Is there a reason this information needs to be in the article twice? 75.182.115.183 (talk) 01:31, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
Addition to Uber Services Section
I'm an Uber driver in the Washington DC Metro area. For the last three weeks or so, Uber has added an additional service level that is cheaper than "Uber POOL" named "Uber Express POOL". This service has the same restrictions as "Uber POOL" with the additional conditions that the rider MAY (depending on the rider's location and destination) have to walk to a designated pick-up location and/or be dropped off prior to the desired destination and have to walk the rest of the way. The rider app will direct the rider to the pick up location and (presumably) notifies the rider if they will have to walk after being dropped off. So far I have not noticed a pick-up or drop off point that was more than a couple of blocks from the intended pick-up or destination point.
So the requested change to the entry would be: 1. Under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL, remove "is the lowest cost level of service, " 2. Add a new line under Operations|Levels of Service|Uber POOL beginning with Uber Express POOL and containing pertinent information from above.
- I'm not sure this is sufficiently notable. We don't normally note every single tier a service company offers, just like we don't list every single product a company sells. Feel free to convince me otherwise. --Yamla (talk) 12:04, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
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The following sentence is gramatically incorrect: "On 18 November 2016, the eastern high court of Denmark ruled that Uber is an illegal."
It should be corrected to one of the following (or similar): "...ruled that Uber is an illegal taxi service." "...ruled that Uber is illegal." Mortenbogh (talk) 05:36, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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I want the following added under Additionally in Operations section:
UberMOTO, available in Pakistan, provides transportation by motorcycle.[1] 39.57.201.88 (talk) 08:13, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
Done, thank you. Gulumeemee (talk) 09:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
References
- ^ "Uber launches bike-hailing service in Pakistan". Express Tribune. 28 March 2018. Retrieved 29 March 2018.
not neutral at all
I see this article is very biased against the company Abote2 (talk) 11:26, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- In what way? Seems to me, it's disproportionately favourable to the company. --Yamla (talk) 11:31, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- The Criticism section is very long I also do see alot of favourable content as well but very little neutral content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abote2 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that's a direct result of their actions. The criticism section is deliberately much, much shorter than it would otherwise be, as much of the information was broken out into Uber protests and legal actions. --Yamla (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- Yes I am new to reading this page and I am shocked at how one-sided it appears. Just look at the lead. So much to discuss yet 1/2 is about negative. --169.0.4.61 (talk) 07:08, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
- Yeah, but that's a direct result of their actions. The criticism section is deliberately much, much shorter than it would otherwise be, as much of the information was broken out into Uber protests and legal actions. --Yamla (talk) 11:44, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
- The Criticism section is very long I also do see alot of favourable content as well but very little neutral content — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abote2 (talk • contribs) 15:19, 21 April 2018 (UTC)
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Add UberPEDAL to the list of services, whereby users can request a car with a bike rack to transport their bike. 2605:6000:1522:400B:F924:E124:2C19:5704 (talk) 15:48, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Sir Joseph (talk) 19:17, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
Nomination of Uber protests and legal actions for deletion
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- A while back a separate article was created for Uber protests and legal actions, but after three years this article remains a duplicate of the section of the main article on legal status (Uber#Legal_status_by_country). There was consensus to summarise the section on legal issues in this article, but this has not happened. Therefore, I'm proposing deleting the Uber protests and legal actions page and retaining the content in the main article for Uber. I'd be equally happy to keep the page and delete the duplicate text from the main article. jamacfarlane (talk) 15:57, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
Merging Uber#Uber protests and legal actions section to Uber protests and legal actions
Hello all. I feel like the Uber#Uber_protests_and_legal_actions section of the article is pretty redundant, as article Uber protests and legal actions have already listed a majority of information. I suggest leaving a small intro, and moving all country/region sections to the other article. But before I perform any edits, I want some community's input. How do you all think? Cheers. –Wefk423 (talk) 18:43, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
Done. It has already been suggested by two editors in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Uber protests and legal actions. Left a condensed summary and main article link to Uber protests and legal actions under Uber#Criticism. –Wefk423 (talk) 08:52, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
Lead is not balanced
1/2 of this lead, as opposed to summarize the article, seems to focus on the negative. Per WP:LEAD — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.0.4.61 (talk) 07:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
Economics
Criticism is long enough it can be moved to a separate article. More on the business and economics of Uber. What is the arranged percentage that Uber takes away from rides and is it economical? -Inowen (nlfte) 22:56, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
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