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May 25

Fresh Hell in Wikipedia

What is this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIFF

It shakes annoyingly. Please fix it. I have never seen anything like it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.73.21.220 (talk) 01:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

If you're serious, you failed to make your point. If you're not serious, please consider this a warning that such edits are inappropriate on Wikipedia. Cresix (talk) 01:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I have removed the final line from the MIFF page, since it was not appropriate for a disambiguation page. If that was the problem then (a) you could have removed it yourself, (b) you could have said so more clearly. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

CSD log in Twinkle

Was wondering how to create one, couldn't seem to find it on the Twinkle page. Thanks, Buggie111 (talk) 01:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Twinkle/doc says "In your Twinkle preferences, you can turn on the CSD userspace log. This feature keeps a log in your userspace of all pages you nominate for CSD". Does that help? You might want to post your question on the talk page for that article. RudolfRed (talk) 01:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It's a setting in Wikipedia:Twinkle/Preferences. There is a check box about half way down that says "Keep a log in userspace of all CSD nominations" --kelapstick^(bainuu) 02:01, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Query Regarding M.E Entrance in PICT college of Pune

Hello, I want to ask that , I want to take admission in Pune Institute of Computer Technology for PG course ( Master of Engineering in IT or CS). So,what is procedure. About Entrance Exam? About Fees Structure? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Varsha yaduvanshi (talk • contribs) 03:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 03:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

What's different about the "My sandbox" link?

At the top of every page, I have these links: RudoldRed (my user page), My talk, My sandbox, My preferences, My Watchlist, My Contributions, Log out. I've noticed that whenever I open any Wikipedia page, all of the links show up together as the page starts to load, except for My sandbox. The My sandbox shows up a bit later, pushing my userpage link and My talk over to the left as it does. So, what's different about the "My sandbox" link? Why does it not show up at the same time as all of the other links at the top of the page? RudolfRed (talk) 04:23, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It is a Gadget and gets loaded after the rest of the personal toolbar. See Help:My sandbox. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 04:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

link VA 34 to VFA 34

I need to know if someone on this thread can please link USN squarden VA-34 which is in RED to the current Squadrens VFA-34 page. for some reason it thake me to VF 20 and no info.. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.174.58.137 (talk) 07:11, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

When I type "VA 34" in the search box I end up at VA34, and the first link there takes me to VFA-34. Is that what you are seeing? Can you give the name or URL of the page containing the faulty link? -- John of Reading (talk) 08:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As far as I can see, there is no page containing a faulty link here. As the History section of the VFA-34 article says, "The third VA-34, established in 1970, was later redesignated VFA-34 and is the subject of this article." Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It was redlinked in List of inactive United States Navy aircraft squadrons, because it was formatted as [[VF-20|VA-34]]. Re-anchored. Dru of Id (talk) 11:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

User name problem

Sir, I want user name Ahmeronline. because my email address is hotmail.com, gmail.com, yahoo.com facebook.com and tweeter account name is ahmeronline. I'm using internet 1998. I think I register ahmeronline in wikipeida but I can't login. I tried to use forget password and check my all emails but I can't see any email from wikipedia.

I hope you understand why I want Ahmeronline on Wikipedia.

Please resolve my troubles Thanks, Ahmer Jamil (AhmerOnline) — Preceding unsigned comment added by AhmerJamil (talk • contribs) 08:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The account Ahmeronline (not AhmerOnline) was created on 6 March 2008, and made just one edit, to Osmania University, the same day. You appear to have registered an email address (at any rate, Wikipedia will let me email that user), but if you no longer have access to that email address then there is no way that you can reset the password for it. It may be possible for you to usurp the account name, but I don't think so: I am not very familiar with the rules for this, though, so I may be wrong. --ColinFine (talk) 10:30, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) The account User:Ahmeronline was created 6 March 2008 and made its only small edit [1] that day. If you don't remember which email address you stored then check all your email accounts and any spam folders. If you still cannot see the mail then you can request the username at Wikipedia:Changing username/Usurpations. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:32, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Regarding CSD

If I move a page to another one and want to request deletion of the original page, can I do it under G6 (housekeeping)?? If not, can I do it under any other criteria of CSD?? Roshan220195 (talk) 08:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You could, I suppose, but why bother? Redirects are cheap. Yunshui 雲‍水 09:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

The move page does have the option not to create a redirect, but having created one R3 or G7 would be options if it's not a credible spelling. - David Biddulph (talk) 09:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Only administrators have the option to not leave a redirect behind when moving a page. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:24, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

(e/c) Yes, you could use G6 for redirects unambiguously created in error or in the incorrect namespace. It also is commonly used (and is the criterion automatically supplied) when a redirect is deleted by an administrator when moving a page title to an existing redirect. You could also use CSD R2 for redirects created when you moved a page from the mainspace to another namespace. Until just a few days ago CSD R3, which covers implausible typos and misnomers, could have been used but an exception was made to exclude the criterion from redirects created by moves. There are others that more generically apply but would be rarer, such as using G10 for a redirect that is an attack (we do see this) and relatedly, G3 for obvious vandalism. G1 (patent nonsense) could be relevant at times, G7 as well (creator requests). Hell, G11 (blatant advertising) could even be used, e.g., for a page moved from a page that was titled "business name is the greatest store of all time..."--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help guys. :) Roshan220195 (talk) 13:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Hoax copy of Wikipedia pages blending with true Wikipedia pages?

It came to my attention that there is a web-page http://mickopedia.org/mickify.py?topic=Kristo_Ivanov, which seems to be a hoax copy of a serious article in Wikipedia with parallel layout as Wikipedia, that links back to true/real Wikipedia-pages as in its Talk-section. Perhaps Wikipedia's help desk should know about this hoax activity on the net. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.239.70.241 (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There are many forks of Wikipedia, some more serious than others. There are thousands of Wikis which use the same Mediawiki software, and so often have a similar appearance to Wikipeida. The licence under which Wikipedia content is released allows derivative works, providing their origin is acknowledged.

However, I'm not sure if the various garbled mentions of Wikipedia do constitute attribution, and the line "Mickopedia® is a registered trademark of the Wikimedia Foundation, Inc., a feckin' non-profit organization." is certainly somewhat dubious. --ColinFine (talk) 10:36, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I think all it is doing is pulling en Wiki content and the script (something like Google Translate) on the "Hoax pedia" is just changing the wording. Bidgee (talk) 10:41, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It does attempt to properly attribute content, by linking to the Wikipedia article histories and reproducing information on the licenses used, although the link to the license is broken. Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks gives more info on websites that copy Wikipedia and how to handle copyright/licensing violations. --Colapeninsula (talk) 11:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

RALPH SAMPSON WIKIPEDIA PAGE

I have been trying since 2010 to have the current image of former NBA player Ralph Sampson (full disclosure: I run his foundation & am engaged to him) removed to no avail. I am a little surprised that the current image would be allowed to use for his page, it is a horrible image & the person that posted it should have known better. There are 100's of images of him that depict him in a much more appropriate image that could have been used, this is really not fair to him or his legacy. Also, when you google his name the wikipedia page shows on the google site as married, he's been divorced for almost 15 yrs now; I am not sure where to find that in order to remove it. Finally, I've uploaded some images of him and sent some images to the support desk on yesterday, any help that anyone can do to assist me with this would be greatly appreciated. He is going into the Hall of Fame in September and would like very much for this image to be removed so that when others google him they don't see this...unfortunately, this is what happens when you try to be nice and allow others to take photos of you when you're out in a park living your life but not expecting that they would post to twitter and then it be used as his monicker. Thanks so much for any help or assistance that can be given...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ralph_Sampson — Preceding unsigned comment added by Houston50 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As you are associated with him, it should not really be for you to say what is an appropriate image. But I can easily believe that better images exist. If you have uploaded such images to English Wikipedia or to Wikimedia Commons, with the required copyright permissions, please say where they are, and I or another editor will replace the current scowling one.

I have also added a statement "He was divorced in 2003, and has remarried", with a reference. From what you say, there is more to it than that. So a reference to an independent source, giving his current marital status, would be useful. Maproom (talk) 15:58, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You could upload images here [2] RegardsTheroadislong (talk) 20:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A couple new images have been uploaded here, on top of older images. An experienced Commons user might need to sort things out. Zagalejo^^^ 02:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If you're talking about the little bio that pops up when you Google Sampson's name (the one that says, "Spouse: Aleize Sampson"), I'm not sure there's anything we can actually do to remove the "Spouse" line. That specific part doesn't seem to be derived from the wiki page, since that name hasn't been mentioned there at any point in the recent past. I'm not sure how Google put that together. Zagalejo^^^ 02:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

IMHO, the newly uploaded images are hideous. If that's all that are available, the one that was previously in the article should be restored. Cresix (talk) 03:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Someone with some Imaging knowledge needs to assist this new user in her earnest efforts to improve the image @ Ralph Sampson. It would be appreciated if that someone would visit User talk:Houston50 and hold her hand during this process. I welcomed her a few days ago and she then reached out to me via email asking for help. But I have ZERO knowledge about Images and what she needs to do to accomplish her simple goal. BTW....there is no need to refer to her images (if they are her images) as hideous. This is the help desk...the last place where attacks should be used as a communicative method. Thanks to whomever chooses to be her hero. ```Buster Seven Talk 05:09, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I advised her on her :en talkpage to take a look at her Commons talkpage and to use it for communication about her image/upload problems. When the problems on this level are solved, there will eventually be a choice of several images of Mr. Sampson, which would then enable local editors to pick best or the most fitting. However, her as-of-yet 2 successful uploads of Sampson shots to Commons don't really look like an improvement. --Túrelio (talk) 13:42, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Point taken, Buster 7. My apologies for the poor choice of the word "hideous". I was referring to the relative quality of the photos, which of course is my personal preference. I should have placed a more polite statement on the article's talk page rather than here. Cresix (talk) 14:33, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Those icons

You know those icons at the top right of a user page? Where can I find a list of these? Legolover26 (talk) 15:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There doesn't seem to be one. A search is the best I can do right now. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:22, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

They are called topicons, by the way. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:40, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

See Template:Top icon for many of them and how to make your own. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:46, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. Legolover26 (talk) 15:31, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Article Rating

How can you change an article rating? I know for Good articles and Featured articles they have to be reviewed by someone, but what about changing a stub-class to a start-class? Jainsworth16 (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can change an article's rating (except to GA or FA unless reviewed, as you had mentioned). More information is at Wikipedia:Assessment, but one can judge the article against the quality scale on the Wikipedia:Assessment page. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:35, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Middle East Countires

Back in College I remember in my Geography Book there were only 5 countries of Middle East (Israel, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq and Syria). Iran and Turkey were part of Empire States and the rest of the Arab countries were part of Arabian Peninsula. Did this change? is Wikipedia and the media wrong? They call any country from India to Libya middle east. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.234.138.54 (talk) 15:17, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

It depends on what qualifications are used to include a country in the Middle East. I do not consider India to Libya in the Middle East. I think that the countries that should be included are Turkey, Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan, Iran, Iraq, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Yemen, United Arab Emirates, Qatar, Bahrain, Israel, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan. Legolover26 (talk) 15:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I guess it also depends on when you went to college - many countries in the Middle East were formed in the latter 20th century. AndieM (Am I behaving?) 16:54, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There is also the Near East - which in the modern historical sense aiui equates roughly with "The Levant" plus Turkey. Roger (talk) 17:27, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Photos

How do I know if a photo I want to add to a page is use-able (or in other words - how do I know its not copyrighted?)

If I got the image from doing a search on google images, is that okay? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.49.219.160 (talk) 18:19, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Finding the image through Google Images does not guarantee that it is free to use. Maproom (talk) 18:26, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

A very rough-and-ready guide: it is probably suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia if a) you produced the work yourself (and not on behalf of an employer etc.) or b) the photo was produced before 1923. Anything else gets a little hairier. I'd suggest that the vast majority of images on Google Image Search are still in copyright and therefore unsuitable for Wikipedia's purposes. Brammers (talk/c) 20:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing the title of an article

How do I edit the title of an article?

For example to change "John Smith" to "John Smith Sr."

The only way to change a title is to move the article. WP:MOVE explains the process. RudolfRed (talk) 18:25, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

But before you move an article, have a scan of WP:TITLE to make sure you're following the guidelines there. In particular "Wikipedia does not necessarily use the subject's "official" name as an article title; it prefers to use the name that is most frequently used to refer to the subject in English-language reliable sources." --ColinFine (talk) 09:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wait a Minim!

I am trying to edit this page: Wait a Minim! I am a creator and cast member of the show I have the new edits in my sandbox, but cannot find the right button to post it all into the page that the public can read. Help! Paul HL Tracey. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul HL Tracey (talk • contribs) 20:13, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

You have a big conflict of interest so I strongly suggest you do not edit the page at all, but make your suggestions on the talk page. Kind regardsTheroadislong (talk) 20:39, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

How can I respond to Orangemike, administrator? I am editing a page called Wait a Minim! My edits are factual with no biased opinion involved. Paul HL Tracey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul HL Tracey (talk • contribs) 21:53, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

See Help:Using talk pages. PrimeHunter (talk) 21:57, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

There are two primary Wikipedia policies/guidelines involved here, regardless of how factual your edits are: WP:COI and WP:V. You should read each of these carefully. Editors who are affiliated with a subject are strongly encouraged to post their information on an article's talk page so that uninvolved editors can decide what is the most appropriate edits to make. You are quite welcome to discuss any changes on the talk page. As for accuracy, "The threshold for inclusion is Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". No one, including an administrator, can change these policies/guidelines without the consensus of the Wikipedia community. You can save yourself a lot of headaches if you suggest your changes on the article's talk page. Cresix (talk) 22:04, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Replying to your technical question: it is usual to edit an existing article in place, not in your sandbox. If an article needs a complete rewrite then you might work in a sandbox, and in that case you would need to copy and paste from your sandbox (from an edit box on it, not from the displayed text): but I wouldn't do that without getting consensus on the talk page first. However, as others have said, in this case your best course is to suggest the changes you want on the talk page. --ColinFine (talk) 09:33, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

AMENDMENT IN INFORMATION

Dear Sir

Information on Karachi Fish harbour on Wikipedia is quite old rather become obsolete. It needs to be updated as per current status. I am Public Relations Officer in Karachi Fisheries Harbour Authority and can provide you update information. Please let me know how can I do this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.160.50.72 (talk) 20:49, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

As you are associated with the Karachi Fisheries Harbour Authority, you would have a conflict of interest if you edited the article yourself. It would be better if you put your information on the article's talk page, and let other people update the page accordingly. Maproom (talk) 21:15, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

But the information must be supported by independent reliable sources: somebody's personal or professional knowledge is not enough. --ColinFine (talk) 09:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Your Article on Baboons...

You report that a collective noun for baboons is NOT a congress, and that the term is some kind of joke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baboon

WRONG! Check your handy Webster's Dictionary:

Webster's reports, "The collective noun for baboons is commonly troop or congress." http://www.websters-online-dictionary.org/definitions/baboon?cx=partner-pub-0939450753529744%3Av0qd01-tdlq&cof=FORID%3A9&ie=UTF-8&q=baboon&sa=Search#906

Mini Dunlop, PhD 67.49.132.158 (talk) 22:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

I have added a section on the baboon talk page. It may have been discussed before. I think we should have consensus before any changes though. I am going to look through my paper dictionaries now.--Canoe1967 (talk) 22:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Did you notice in the link you gave that the only time "congress" appears is in the section that was copied from an old version of the Wikipedia article. Also take a look at the references given in the Baboon article. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 23:00, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

Resolved

I fixed the wiktionary and now the link above doesn't show it anymore.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:05, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

May 26

I have found out some of the information on the page for Clare Kramer is incorrect. I spoke to her today and she said that "nothing has been signed" in regard to her national tour for Mamma Mia.

I interviewed Clare Kramer today and she said she has no idea where the information about her being in Mamma Mia is erroneous. She says nothing has been signed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.199.74.113 (talk) 00:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I removed the unsourced statement from her article.--Canoe1967 (talk) 00:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Additionally, there is no reason why you couldn't have removed the uncited statement either. Dismas|^(talk) 00:29, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested Articles

Excuse me if I'm not in the right place, but I'm not sure where else to ask this. I requested a number of articles some time ago that have yet to be created. Unfortunately, I'm not well experienced when it comes to starting articles on my own. Please help if possible. --Radiokid1010 (talk) 01:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If it helps and in case you didn't notice, that page has a significant backlog. So it's not just your requests that are going unanswered. Dismas|^(talk) 01:35, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll add that many editors are likely to see a work in progess mentioned here, and may help develop it at articles for creation or your sandbox until it's ready for primetime, although if moved prematurely, new creations are frequently challenged. Dru of Id (talk) 01:41, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wojciech Szczęsny

On the Szczesny bio, it says he is now playing for Swindon Town. He's not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.73.226.168 (talk) 03:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wojciech Szczęsny (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thank you for reporting this. Does it look ok now? -- John of Reading (talk) 07:21, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Double image inside an Infobox

Is there a way to put multiple images inside a Biography Infobox?

The Wright Brothers
Born	Orville: (1871-08-19)August 19, 1871, Dayton, Ohio Wilbur: (1867-04-16)April 16, 1867, Millville, Indiana ETC. ETC. ...

I tried the 'double image' and 'multiple image' markup language to do this, and they almost worked, but both methods rendered with some visible stray markup language which I did not add and could not eliminate. It looks like this: [[File:|frameless|alt=]]. Specifically, I'd like to put side-by-side images of the Wright Brothers at the top of a single Infobox, as shown. Other than photo-editing the images into a single file, is there another way to do this, or to clean it up? Thanks. DonFB (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I've seen it done this way, though it's a kludge:

{{Infobox person
| name        = The Wright Brothers<br>
{{double image|center|Orville Wright.jpg|158|Wilbur Wright.jpg|146| <center>Orville (l) and Wilbur (r)}}
| birth_date  = '''Orville''': {{birth date|1871|8|19|}}, Dayton, Ohio<br/>'''Wilbur''': {{birth date|1867|4|16|}}, Millville, Indiana
ETC. ETC. ...
}}

-- John of Reading (talk) 07:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, good suggestion, will preview it on Talk page. DonFB (talk) 09:57, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I used the smallimage field to put the Olympic rings under the portrait of Avery Brundage, I think it worked well.--Wehwalt (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

searching for lost friend

please can you locate an address or telephone wether it be a house or cell number name of juan manrrique of pazcuaro michocan mexico — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gloria pauline hernandez (talk • contribs) 05:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Dismas|^(talk) 05:31, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Gloria, you will probably get better results if you use the spellings, "Manrique",

"Patzcuaro" and "Michoacan". Even with these improvements, a Google search did not produce

any obvious phone number. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.255.191 (talk) 09:19, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Telmex confine their numbers to their own customers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.255.191 (talk) 09:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

User contributions: created pages

Silly question that I would know the answer to at this stage: is is possible to view a list of pages created by a user (e.g. filter user contributions by pages created). --RA (talk) 08:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Try this tool. This is linked from the bottom of the "user contributions" page. -- John of Reading (talk) 08:55, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

That you, sir. --RA (talk) 09:23, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Cannot get edit to work correctly

hello I am having probs editing this page....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_television#History

it is the page that states Internet TV History...

the story that was there before was incorrect..

I tried and tried to edit it correctly...but kept getting it wrong. and the page will not display correctly etc...can someone possibly straighten this out please... I did try and try and try....without correct results.

here is the correct Info that should go on the HISTORY section of this page.... I cannot get it to display correctly...no matter what I do.

........................................................................................ .............................................................................................

The First 24/7 Internet Television station, Daytona Beach LIVE, http://daytonabeach-live.com/ was Created August 25, 2000 In Daytona Beach, Florida, USA By TheRaven. aka Harold Kionka. Who-Is info:

>>  http://www.networksolutions.com/whois-search/daytonabeach-live.com

After    Creating  and running  the First  ever Route 66 LIVE  Internet cam,    
 http://web.archive.org/web/19980501063613/http://global66.com/

in Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA in 1998, TheRaven then started and ran Albuquerque's first Internet only, radio station Route 66 LIVE, http://web.archive.org/web/20000816065955/http://www.route66live.com/ in 1999.

After running the Radio station with the help of Original Route66Live on-air DJ's Brian "The GETTO" Seymore and "Jupiter Josh Mosh Universal" aka Josh Hernandez, and Original Rt 66 Live program director Stewart "Hip Daddy Deadeye" Kline, for a year,

TheRaven    then moved  to Daytona Beach, Florida, USA    and   started  Daytona Beach LIVE      http://web.archive.org/web/20020605121408/http://daytonabeach-live.com/           in the year 2000,   with   his   First ever  Bikeweek  Internet TV broadcast,     from  atop the  roof of the  Fishin Hole   establishment  in Daytona, Florida, USA 

>>> Fishin' Hole: 450 N Beach St, Daytona Beach, FL 32114, (386) 252-9804.

TheRaven, along with ex-Route66Live.com on-air personality Brian "The GETTO" Seymore, continued to Broadcast Biker events http://www.ojr.org/ojr/workplace/1060223904.php along with many other Daytona Beach and local area events From his Beachside Studio Atop The Beaches Oceanfront Resort, at 1299 S. Atlantic Avenue

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=NJ&p_theme=nj&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_text_search-0=%22broadcasting%20on%20a%20shoestring%22&p_field_label-0=Author&s_dispstring=broadcasting%20on%20a%20shoestring%20AND%20date(all)&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no

 http://web.archive.org/web/20021003221011/http://www.volusia.com/beachesoceanfront/     

until the year 2008, when he relocated to Adrian,Michigan, USA and formed the existing Internet TV stations into the Internet TV Network Ravenworld Communications: http://www.ravenworldcommunications.com/

Samples of some of TheRaven's Daytona Beach work: Bikeweek 2003 >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/19593795 Daytona Beach Boardwalk Bike Show >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18815179 The Birthplace of Speed 2003 event, from Ormond Beach, Florida, USA >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8851697 Daytona Beach Turkey ROD RUN Hot Rod event >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18317328 First ever NITEtime Christmas Parade, in Ormond Beach, Florida, USA 2002

>>>  http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18360968

Daytona Beach Christmas, Trains, and SANTA >>> http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/8144735

DaytonaBeach-Live.com website cirrca: 2005 >> http://web.archive.org/web/20050103092841/http://www.daytonabeach-live.com/

After teaming up with Longtime friend and ex Route66Live.com Radio personality "Jupiter Josh Mosh Universal" aka Josh Hernandez in 2011, TheRaven continues to Jointly Own and Operate the RavenworldCommunications.com Internet TV network from his worldwide base of operations in Adrian,Michigan, USA, and San Antonio, Texas, USA, and continues to specialize in LIVE event Internet TV broadcasting. .

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Frank — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank810z (talk • contribs) 09:01, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow what a mess of misformatting! Firstly, never start a new line with a space, then take a good look at WP:Referencing for beginners because none of your references are correctly formatted. Inline extrermal links are also frowned upon, see WP:ELNO. But the biggest concern about your addition is actually not its layout, the content is highly promotional, which is not allowed - please see WP:ADVERT. Roger (talk) 09:36, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If for some reason you are unable to edit the article, the best place to discuss what you want to change on the article's talk page, here Talk:Internet television. But take note of what Roger has said: if you look at what you've posted here, you'll see that it's very hard to read because of your formatting. --ColinFine (talk) 09:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Removing alphabetic subheadings in categories.

Category:Paralympic competitors by disability category contains only six items and won't get any more as those six are the only ones that exist. Having alphabetic subheadings in categories with so few entries is pointless, is there an easy way to eliminate them? Roger (talk) 10:49, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Not by editing the category itself. Each subcategory could be given a sort key starting with the same character, for example [[Category:Paralympic competitors by disability category|*Amputee]] and so on. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:25, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

My organization has changed its name

What is the proper way to reflect that change on Wikipedia? Should I seek administrative assistance in changing the Article Name, or should I prepare a new article with the new name? I apologize that I am unfamiliar with this. Thank you kindly for your time.Lindacbean (talk) 11:03, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Moved! - David Biddulph (talk) 11:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

donating/log on.

First of all, I m a donor. I have tried to log on to Wikipedia to no avail. I have tried at least 3 times to reset the password. It says an email is sent but it never arrives. It will not let me setup a new account as it says I already have one. Can you assist please?

Pat Comiskey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.224.248.134 (talk) 12:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you checked your email's spam filter? (BTW being a donor is irrelevant to your status as an editor.) Roger (talk) 12:28, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) If you think you know the stored email address for the account then check any spam folders. Your mail service may have one outside your own computer. If this doesn't help and you want to keep the username then you may be able to usurp it but I cannot tell without knowing the name. What is it? You can also create a new account with another name. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:30, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Thine Antique Pen

Thine Antique Pen has done the following. I am not complaining BTW, neither am I making personal attacks. I just want this to stop:

1. He made a sub-page full of my mistakes here[3], which soon got deleted.
2. I made a delete comment at I am learning [4] in which he said "It's more notable than MyMaths, in my sight". And 2 mins late the MyMaths get's nominated for deletion and the result was "speedy keep".
3. Thus the continued arguments I gave hime the following rules.

"Here is what you need to do:

• Stop visiting my talk page
• Don't comment on me anywhere on this wiki
• Don't critisize and attack me like you did on sunday
• I will not do the same to you

• This is to prevent further disruption and accusations-I personally don't want an intervention ban.--Deathlaser : Chat 16:05, 22 May 2012 (UTC)"

Yet he keeps breaching these rules-I really don't see what's so unfair about them that they need to be breached.--Deathlaser :  Chat  13:52, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I see that TAP intentionally nominated MyMaths for AfD which is not a good practice and thus discouraged. If not intentionally then no problem (but it looks like it was intented) Anyways if you feel that he is bothering you, ask for interaction ban from him. →TSU ^tp* 14:11, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Corrections: I don't see what that subpage had to do with your mistakes, but OK. Also, "giving" someone rules isn't the best way to phrase it, but OK. And the AfD was closed per SNOW, not as a Speedy Keep, but OK. The last sentence should read something like "I will extend the same courtesy to you", but OK. The spirit of this request should be granted, and I have asked Thine Antique Pen to do so. Otherwise we'll have to ask for an interaction ban. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 15:43, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, okay! However, I do not look at the article creator when I patrol new pages, or CSD/PROD/AFD them, so if one is Deathlasers, give me a ping on my talk page! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 15:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, but that page was already two days old when you got to it. Regardless, just make sure to check the history, and when you notify (whether that's done automatically or not) you will see who created it. This little bit of extra care is worthwhile. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 16:12, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

How get the attention of confirmed editor?

I posted a one line edit with a reference to an image at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_May_20,_2012#Photo_Gallery. I am not a confirmed editor, but I uploaded the image to the Commons. The text appears (the Nevada City entry), but the image does not appear, so perhaps the uploading of the image needs to be completed by a confirmed editor. Any help? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gpalmernc (talk • contribs) 14:17, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

You do not need to be a confirmed editor to add the image, however, I am having trouble locating the image. Will look further.--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a user with your name at Commons, did you use a different name? --SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm looking at recent uploads at Commons, not seeing an eclipse, but I'm searching through just the last few minutes. Do you know what time you uploaded it, or did you add a category?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 14:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

You uploaded the image with quotes around the title, including the file extension. I'm sure that's not what you intended but it is at File:"Annular Eclipse Nevada City CA May 2012.jpg".jpg. I will make a move request to a proper title at the Commons. In the meantime, I have fixed the image name in the article.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 17:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I mucked up the filenames. I think I saw the quotes around a filename in an example for the upload and I assumed it worked like UNIX filenames on a terminal. I judge from the note on the Commons page ("This request will be dealt with by an administrator or filemover.") that I should do nothing. I'm sure that is the best way to avoid breaking it.Gpalmernc (talk) 20:37, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Images École nationale de l'aviation civile and Institut Polytechnique des Sciences Avancées

Hi. Writing the articles École nationale de l'aviation civile and Institut Polytechnique des Sciences Avancées, I try to add an image for both of them. But, unfortunately, I can't because I don't have an account. Is there anybody who can help me and add these two images. You can find them here for ENAC : https://etud.insa-toulouse.fr/~contact/logos/logo_enac.png and here for IPSA : http://www.ecole-ingenieurs.com/images/media/concours/logo-ipsa.jpg. Thanks for your help. Kind regards. 80.13.85.217 (talk) 19:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Backgrounds in Infoboxes

Hi. I am confused about how to make a background color for a certain section in an infobox. For example, (and this is just an example), look at the "Background Information" section on Lil Wayne's infobox. The background is gold. I have no idea how to do that, and that's what I'm asking.
--Just a note--
I don't mean the background of just the word, I mean the background of like the whole line. TheBestZebra 21:06, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

That's done by | background = solo_singer in Template:Infobox musical artist... and that's as far as I can get you. Sorry. Dru of Id (talk) 22:16, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I got a bit further; at Template:Infobox musical artist/color (in 'View source') it's #35;f0e68c <!-- khaki --> (color code & description). Dru of Id (talk) 01:02, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Recovering a contribution

I have spent hours writing an article for Wikipedia. When I clicked SAVE PAGE I received an error message that my contribution could not be processed. How can I recover it? Thank you for your assistance Paterimon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paterimon (talk • contribs) 21:02, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Sometimes when you get an error, it may go through credited to the IP address, so you should check the page's 'View history' file. If it does not appear there or on your user contributions Special:Contributions/Paterimon, then it is gone. I frequently copy or cut-and-paste large revisions to a thumb drive or computer file to avoid this loss, especially when an error has already been mentioned here, or an error has already come up for me. Dru of Id (talk) 22:07, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

It's probably too late now but in many browsers you can use the browser's back button and get back to an edit window with your text. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

On my profile page with Facebook....

There was a mistake made in the location of a school which I attended and posted on my profile using Facebook. Wikipedia sited the school as San Rafael High school in Richmond, Ca. This is incorrect and should read: San Rafael High School, San Rafael, Ca. Please take care of this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.38.63.132 (talk) 21:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

I empathize, but Facebook's scraping of our Wikipedia pages is beyond our power. Also shortening title of the section. —Jeremy v^_^v ^Bori! 21:18, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

If the Wikipedia article is incorrect, can you please tell us which one it is? --NeilN ^{talk to me} 21:22, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article San Rafael High School says that the school is in San Rafael. We have absolutely no control over what Facebook may say. --ColinFine (talk) 21:24, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

Appears to be this Facebook page for San Rafael High School; lists Richmond, California in header, but gives correct address in San Rafael. Dru of Id (talk) 21:58, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

May 27

black and decker lawnmower s witch button.

how do i find the correctconnection from ablack and decker switch button lawn mower, so i could replace or substitute another type of swit6ch? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.228.145 (talk) 00:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. RudolfRed (talk) 00:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

WP:Unusual requests. Who wants to do the honors? The Blade of the Northern Lights (話して下さい) 04:48, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Purpose of a page?

What is the point of Template:Template sandbox? How is that page intended to be used and how is it different from WP:Sandbox? -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 00:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

According to the talk page, that page is for for experimenting with templates, where the other sandbox page is for experimenting with editing a normal page. RudolfRed (talk) 00:36, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

One can already experiment with templates in the regular sandbox. I mean, I can create template markup in the regular sandbox. Apart from that, for the purpose of editing a page, I doesn't really matter in which namespace a page is, a page in the template namespace is edited the same way as a page in the main namespace, Wikipedia namespace or any other namespace. Or is that page intended to be transcluded or substituted onto another page itself? I don't get it. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 00:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

If you prefer WP:Sandbox or a personal sandbox then just use that. I could quickly think of three potential advantages of Template:Template sandbox. 1) It's overwritten less frequently so you get more time to test transclusion of your code and may easier find it later in the page history. 2) You can transclude it with {{Template sandbox}} like normal templates without having to know how transclusion of other namespaces work (it's a small difference but lots of users don't know it). 3) It's in the template namespace so {{NAMESPACE}} and similar returns the same as if you later use the same code in another template. {{NAMESPACE}} might be used indirectly via a template without a user realising it and it could be quite confusing to some if a test in WP:Sandbox worked differently when the code was copied to a template. See also Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/Not deleted/July 2005#Template:Template sandbox (and others). PrimeHunter (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, yes, that all makes sense. Thanks. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 01:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Bracket help

The 2012 SEC Baseball Tournament has been expanded to 10 teams from 8, so the current {{SECBracket}} won't work. I can't find a 10 team double elimination bracket template and I can't figure out how to edit the code to add another round. It will need to follow this format. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. ~ Richmond96 t • c 01:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Current available options are at Category:10-Team bracket templates (I can't currently view pdf files). Dru of Id (talk) 02:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Looks like someone has recently created {{SECBracket2012}} within the last few hours in attempt to address the issue at 2012 SEC Baseball Tournament. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:59, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

banks

Who has more banks Cleveland, Oh or Pittsburg, Pa? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.13.40.157 (talk) 03:18, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 3.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 Cresix (talk) 03:20, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Wikipedia:Reference desk. They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Robert Skyhawk ^{(T C)} 03:27, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Terrence Deacon's page vandalized

The Wikipedia page about Professor Terrence Deacon (URL = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrence_Deacon) has been vandalized. Probably by a person (Michael Lissack) who has been systematically attempting to defame him in every possible venue. He appears to have placed self-serving and defaming information about Deacon on the Wikipedia page about him, specifically concerning his 2011 book "Incomplete Nature." To correct this vandalism his modifications should be removed and to prevent further vandalism Mr. Lissack should be blocked from making any edits to this page in the future. The other person who may also attempt to vandalize this page (Alecia Juarrero) is mentioned by Mr. Lissack in his edit. She may also attempt a similar self-serving vandalism so her ability to edit this page should also be blocked. 05:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)76.206.196.80 (talk)

I've semi-protected the page for two weeks. If there are any further problems, please request re-protection at WP:RFPP. Mjroots (talk) 09:13, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I see no evidence of vandalism here – unless your definition of "vandalism" is "expressing an opinion that I disagree with". The material removed appears to be relevant, accurate, and supported by references. I propose reinstating it. Maproom (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

It seems to be a case of either parallel research or insufficient citation. A court may have to decide which. There is no outright claim of plagiarism. The one author wrote a book similar to two other books in content and it seems that irked a few because they thought the other two books should have been mentioned in his as sources.--Canoe1967 (talk) 17:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Please see http://theterrydeaconaffair.com for a full background re this issue. I have no desire nor intention to "vandalize". There is a real academic dispute about this work and the dispute has gone on in the pages of Nature, the New York Review of Books, the Chronicle of Higher Education and the London Review of Books. To suppress the fact of the dispute is contrary to what Wikipedia is about (having gone through similar unhappiness re my own page I more than understand). Reword at will but the material should be reinstated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michaellissack (talk • contribs) 16:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Print size in Wikipedia

Why is the print size in Wikipedia so tiny. It is mostly almost impossible to read. Please work on that. Thank you05:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)05:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)124.182.98.172 (talk)

This is likely a product of the specific browser you are using, and can easily be adjusted. Which browser and version are you accessing Wikipedia with? --Jayron32 05:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Use ctrl and + to increase font size. Mjroots (talk) 09:10, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15)

Can someone help me please? I look to article for help with my paper. I find nothing on China incident in article, then I find this history section, with old copies of article, no? In history, I think China incident is there, but not when I look at article, so I put back. Then I go to tab to make talk about why I do this. Please check for me, is this right? I have used this Wikipedia lots to look and ask questions but I am not sure as to who is supposed to do what for articles. Thank you 31.186.86.42 (talk) 11:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC) (signature)

FYI - just to clarify, this appears to be about an edit dispute about the inclusion/exclusion of BRP Gregorio del Pilar (PF-15)#Panatag Shoal Standoff. Roger (talk) 11:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Not sure why this is here, but I will take a look at it.Desk Ref (talk) 14:30, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

The article on Verona NJ

Fails to mention the famous Uncle Wiggily series, written by Howard R Garis, was inspired by its authors walk through a woods in Verona (I was told this as a child): http://blog.readex.com/how-uncle-wiggily-taught-me-to-read — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.224.97.228 (talk) 13:12, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately "I was told this" is not a verifiable source. To be included in a WP article the information must have been previously published by a reliable source - a personal blog does not qualify. However, the blog quotes the obituary in the Chicago Tribune on November 6, 1962. If you (or someone else) can get hold of a library/archive copy of the paper it can be properly sourced. Roger (talk) 14:35, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Reference Tags

Hi there,

I'm not familiar with writing articles and the certain codes that need to be put into wikipedia.

I'm trying to write an article about my Father in law who competed in the 1960 Olympics, I got a message saying they were going to delete it and I have been trying all day to add the references they are asking for but keep getting errors.

I tried ==References= and also =References=

and tried to make sure the have the right tags for <ref> <ref/> but its not happening

Any help most appreciated http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Din

References are a pain for new editors, and not trivial for established ones. Try Referencing for beginners--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

And sorry to report that Wikipedia does not qualify as a reference. However, does this link refer to your father?--SPhilbrick(Talk) 15:14, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Yeh that article is about Dad to, the main one I was trying to reference was outside Wikipedia from Marc Olympics which compiles all Olympic data I just can't get it to appear right, spent hours going through the help page but I am a total novice! It would mean a lot to him to be on here, especially with the Olympics coming up I'm just worried they are gonig to delete it :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Onlygroup (talk • contribs) 15:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you thank you!!

I've had a quick look at the article, and it would appear that the notability criteria have been met. That is not to say it won't be nominated for deletion at WP:AFD, but is should survive and is not a candidate for speedy deletion. Mjroots (talk) 20:47, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

My Question: Who taught Al PAcino how to dance the tango in Scent of A Woman?

I would love to know if Al PAcino really danced the Tango in Scent of a Woman or if somebody else danced for him! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.244.153.104 (talk) 14:31, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 Rcsprinter (articulate) 14:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

American Wikipedia????

A user has just posted on my talkpage that because a show is american only american airdates matter and doesnt matter if the show airs elsewhere, can someone please ocnfirm if this is true??? if not where should i seek guideance for this because user is determine not to let me add the uk air date even though i said my source but did not provide inline citeation as it not really possible form teh source--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 15:07, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I can't find any specific guidlines on airdates, but I did find a similar discussion here. I've never seen an American tv show with UK air dates listed as well, and I think the problem with adding them would be that its likely to have aired in multiple countries. Where do you draw the line with the number of different dates, because adding them all would be a mess. Sarahj2107 (talk) 15:36, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

its not to do with teh uk air date it is to do with the fact it is airing in english outside america first regardless if it a american show, the user is claiming it is american wikipeida by not allowing the first airdate regardless of whete it airs--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 16:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

If its airing in the UK first then I agree, the UK date should be the one listed as the original airdate. Sarahj2107 (talk) 17:19, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

IMHO what matters is the date when it airs first, regardless of where it happens. Subsequent airing dates in other countries could be considered individually. Obviously shows that have been broadcast in dozens of countries should probably be treated differently from shows that have only been seen in one or a few countries. BTW being "American only" is completely irrelevant; this is not the American Wikipedia, it is the Global Wikipedia in the Enlish language. Roger (talk) 15:49, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

So does that mean the first airdate regardless of the show origins show be listed?--Andrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 16:34, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

New article called Frederic Marcotte.

Hello all, can an experienced wikipedian look at my page and bring necessary adjustments. I'm not that good in english, and the french wiki is different from the english one. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Supergirl36 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I assume you are referring to the page Frederic Marcotte.

I have made some minor changes to the article. This is not an endorsement of its existence, I know nothing about Marcotte, and have no view on whether he is notable enough to justify an article.

I note that you call it "my page". It is in no sense yours, it is a page which you created, but this gives you no rights over it. Maproom (talk) 19:25, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd strongly recommend adding some reliable sources to establish notablity as soon as possible, or draft the article outside of mainspace (at User:Supergirl36/Frederic Marcotte for example) until it has this, as it stands the article is a speedy deletion candidate. Яehevkor ✉ 19:45, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Editing Articles-Making Wikipedia a Better Site

Hi, I recently created a Wikipedia account and got to choose what topics I'm interested in (geography, math, etc.) and what I'm good at (searching the web, researching and writing, etc.) I would like to help in making Wikipedia a better site, but I soon discovered that I wasn't very skilled at what I chose. Is there any way to go back and change these settings? Thank you for your help! Catcrazy5 (talk) 21:21, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but you can edit any article no matter what the subject is. Just find a page you would like to contribute to and be bold RudolfRed (talk) 21:32, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Was it MediaWiki:Customusertemplate-ACP2-Welcomecreation? No choices are stored. It merely leads you to pages where you can help. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:32, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

There are many more suggestions at Wikipedia:Community portal#Todo. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:53, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

May 28

Boolean operators & wild cards

I assume Boolean operators & wild cards are not available for Wikipedia searches, right? How about providing them? --- Allan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.154.219 (talk) 00:08, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Boolean logical AND and OR and wildcards are supported. See Help:Searching RudolfRed (talk) 00:25, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Adding related sites links

What if I am adding related sites link for different wiki pages, I am doing this to ease wikipedia readers about related websites / blog URLS so they may learn more. Is it wrong or good please do let me know? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Faheemvenom (talk • contribs) 01:34, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Blogs should normally be linked in an article about the blog. Links to a recipe are unnecessary; there are thousands for some recipes, so unless the article is about the chef, and it is their recipe, it fails Wikipedia:External links guidelines. Dru of Id (talk) 02:17, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

New film trilogy categories

Hi, I've created two film trilogy categories Category:Christopher Nolan Batman trilogy and Category:Spider-Man film trilogy (2002 - 2007). I hope I did not offend anyone by merging multiple categories. Also, I'm not sure if I named them properly. I'm also thinking about doing the same thing on Star Wars series, but afraid might offend people.--NeoBatfreak (talk) 05:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

It sounds like a poor idea to me to move three Batman films out of Category:Batman films and three Spider-Man films out of Category:Spider-Man films. The total number of films is small enough to need no subcategorization. Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film would be a better place to discuss. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:55, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Can a notable person contribute to wikipedia?

I have a peculiar case regarding the contributions of a notable contributor in one of the Indic Language community. The said wikipedian is "notable" because he is a famous literary person and a historian. And he has many books to his credit published by universities or private publishers. And he has article about himself in wikipedia since he is notable. Now the issue is:

• A notable person is contributing to wikipedia (yeah, that is a problem for some wikipedians :))
• He is writing articles about the topics on which he has good knowledge.
• Unfortunately for some rare topics the only available reference is his own books.

Few community members have objections to his contributions. They cite various policies including original research.

My questions are:

1. Can a notable person contribute to wikipedia?
2. If yes, can he contribute on the topics of his area of expertise?
3. Can he use his own books (which are verifiable resources) on these topics as reference?
4. Even if other reliable resource are available can he use his own books also as reference?
5. Will these issues be non-existent if a third person work on the same articles and use the same books of this notable person as refernces?

Please let me know how we can handle this peculiar issue.--Shijualex (talk) 09:59, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I don't see a problem as long as he is keeping a neutral point of view and not trying to own the article(s). As you said, the books are verifiable. It's not completely against the rules to work on an article about yourself or a topic that you are actively involved in. It's just discouraged since people have a hard time writing objectively about themselves. The first Wikipedian with an article that pops to mind is Cory Doctorow who has done some work on the article about himself before and probably (I haven't checked lately) still does. Dismas|^(talk) 10:10, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Quick answers:

1. Yes, anyone can edit Wikipedia.
2. Yes, indeed, expert knowledge is greatly appreciated. See WP:EXPERT.
3. Yes, if they are published by major publishing houses with a reputation for scholarly output. Additionally, he could also use self-published works if he is suffiently well-respected as an authority in the field; see WP:RS.
4. Yes - although obviously, the more sources, the better.
5. Yes, assuming point 3 is met.

If the area in question is a contentious one and the Wikipedian in question is known for taking a polemical position or is closely associated with the subject, it might be more appropriate for him to propose changes on the article's talkpage rather than entering them himself. However, if it's a general historical topic, I see no reason why a published author should not use their own work as reference - as long as the information added is directly derived from the published source, it doesn't really matter who adds it. Yunshui 雲‍水 10:15, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Also note that if these are scholarly works, they themselves should be full of citations which can be mined. Thus, if I am J.R. Jonesh, writing about Latvian literature, and my own work from the University of Riga Press, Great Monologues of the Latvian Stage references a 19th-century Latvian anthology Let's Lett!, then rather than provide references to my own work, I should provide references to Let's Lett! instead. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:45, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

This area has few hard-and-fast rules; we expect editors to use restraint and good judgement in situations where they may face a perceived conflict of interest. The conflict of interest noticeboard (shortcut WP:COIN) can offer guidance in these sorts of situations. Many Wikipedia editors tend to get a little worried when they see an individual who links exclusively (or nearly exclusively) to their own books and articles; we expect subject-matter experts to be broadly familiar with the important publications in their field, and to cite those other scholars' work in addition to their own. As noted at WP:SELFCITE:

"...Excessive self-citation is strongly discouraged. When in doubt, defer to the community's opinion. In any case, citations should be in the third person and should not place undue emphasis on your work, giving proper due to the work of others as in a review article."

If there are disagreements about the appropriateness of a source for use in a given article, editors should attempt to resolve their differences on the article's talk page. If that should fail, or if broader discussion seems required, editors at the reliable sources noticeboard (shortcut WP:RSN) can be invited to lend a hand.

Tension can be reduced or avoided altogether if an author proposes the use or addition of particular sources on the article's talk page before adding them to the article. Allowing at least a day or two for an article's other editors to comment on or consider a source (as well as to suggest reasonable additions or alternatives) can go a long way to smoothing a scholar's interactions with other editors—and can help to produce better articles, in the long run.

Obviously, the comments and advice you've received here are only general in nature, as you've declined to identify either the editor or the articles where these issues have arisen. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Thank you all very much for the immediate replies for my query. The main query i faced is, can notable persons contribute to wikipedia on their area of expertise?

These answers will help me to guide the respective language community by providing the general guidelines for dealing with this issue. I haven't identified editor or articles because similar type of issues arised atleast from 3 language communities. So the answer they require is also general general guideline regarding this topic. The above answers will help me to provide them the general guideline. Thanks once again for the timely support--Shijualex (talk) 16:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Redirect in place?

Hello,

I work for an organisation called London Elects, and I have just gone on to edit the copy I had put in place on 4th February 2012 (it was certainly still there and unedited until Monday 30th April) - and the page now automatically redirects to something else. Do you have any way of un-redirecting this page? The two pages should be separate so not sure why some user has done this.

The link is London Elects (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)

Thanks Claire — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claireachristie (talk • contribs) 12:09, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, The page was redirected on 4 May by the user Amisom with the edit summary 'all copied from webssite'. A quick Google search shows that it was copied word for word form the londonelects site [5]. This copyright problem would have to be fixed before the redirect could be removed. Sarahj2107 (talk) 12:27, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

As you work for the organisation please read the guidelines governing conflict of interest. Roger (talk) 12:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

The page should have been reverted to the version before the copyright violating text was pasted in on January 26, 2012, not redirected entirely even though it had preexisting content going back to 2008, unless all of the prior content was also copied and pasted. I have searched and do not find any indication that that is the case. (If all prior versions were copyvios, then the article should also not be redirected, but speedy deleted under CSD G12.)--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:40, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Is there a way to post on Facebook when editing Wikipedia pages?

I am looking for a way to post some of my edits to Facebook or another social network.

This may be a dumb idea, don't know, but since people can share the stupidest things, maybe sharing about an interesting edit or as a way to ask for help on a subject would be useful. Might even encourage people to get involved in editing Wikipedia.

Maybe there already is something like the Mediawiki Facebook extension?

--Kai Carver (talk) 12:52, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a social media website. If you've just expanded the article on Yuri Balashov, just post to Facebook as your status, "Editing Wikipedia article on Yuri Balashov; really think it's an improvement" and maybe cut-and-paste the URL for the article. --Orange Mike | Talk 13:49, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Sharebox is a script that reorders your toolbox. It adds new buttons that make it easier to mail, print or share an article on Facebook or another linksharing service. You must have an account to add Sharebox to the sidebar. See User:TheDJ/Sharebox for more information. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 13:57, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

How Ture Is This Office and the link {http://www.euro-resource.co.uk/?x=jobs_in_canada}

CONSTRUCTION RECRUITMENT AGENCY — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.26.46.169 (talk) 15:41, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

For the sake of keeping this page orderly, I took the liberty of removing most of what appears to be a copy and paste of a company's webpage. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our over 6.9 million articles and thought we were affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is for asking questions related to using or contributing to Wikipedia itself. Thus, we have no special knowledge about the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the upper right side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 15:44, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

DOUBLE STANDERS OF "NOTABILITY" BEING USED FOR MY ARTICLE SUBMISSION

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Regional Airline Association My article on the Regional Airline Association has now been rejected twice on the grounds that the association it covers is not "notable enough". You have got to be kidding me?? I have linked its notability to PBS, Fox News, The FAA, United States Congress, AND Business Week magazine. Yet, you get these single airplane operations that only have their very own website as the only element of notability, like, Bimini Island Air and Air Cargo Carriers. Where are the short-sighted-reviews of my article failing to see this????--XB70Valyrie (talk) 16:06, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I'm getting so sick and tired of this I'm about to leave wikipedia!--XB70Valyrie (talk) 16:12, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

I haven't taken the time to read the details about your submission, but you can create an article yourself. See WP:SAA and WP:HEP for more details. You might also read WP:ORG for notability guidelines for an organization, and WP:V and WP:RS for information about providing reliable sources. If the article is nominated for deletion, there may be some constructive criticism and improvement by other editors that could improve the article so that it remains. I added a welcome template to your talk page with a lot of helpful links. Best of luck. Cresix (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Redirect pages for mispellings

I've just stumbled on this page; one redirect for it being the bizarrely misspelled page "Boys' schhool of st. pauls'" Shouldn't this redirect page be deleted? I thought they were only for (WP:R) "likely misspellings" amongst other things, not completely garbled text... :) OrbiterSpacethingy (talk) 16:31, 28 May 2012 (UTC) Edit: never mind, I've just found Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion... OrbiterSpacethingy (talk) 16:34, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

Christopher Hollis biograpy

A book entitled "The American Heresy" (1930) appears to have been omitted from the list of Mr. Hollis' works. Can you add it? You can observe a copy of it now for sale (used) on the Amazon website.