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Jalen McMillan

Hello Wikipedia community, I have been trying to create a page for the world famous Jalen McMillan and my article keeps getting deleted. Someone please help me DerekHoytink (talk) 15:44, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Most reliable, up-to-date online source for taxonomy

Hi! I'm writing an article on a fish species. It also has a few subspecies. Where can I find the best online source for species naming (as well as who named it, and when)? Sources tend to contradict one another. Thanks, Bananasoldier (talk) 15:39, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I update a logo on a page for my company?

I created an account to make edits/image updates for our company page and do not see how to replace the image in the right navigation box.216.136.13.62 (talk) 14:32, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, but please don't ask the same question in multiple places - I will answer at the Help Desk - Arjayay (talk) 15:03, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello. You have what we call a conflict-of-interest regarding the article on your company. We therefore would prefer you not to edit the article directly. Instead, please go to the talk page of the article in question and outline what you would want changed with the article. Add the code {{request edit}} after your request to send out a signal for help. You will probably need to point out where on the internet your company's new logo can be found. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 15:08, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Edits are constantly being reverted

Hi, there's a user that keeps on reverting my edits on Kim Yuna's article. I don't know if its a troll account or not. I can't talk to the user because it has no talk-page. Please help.Masterpeace3 (talk) 11:15, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Masterpeace3 and thanks for your post. I have warned this editor and reported their username as it is a breach of wikipedia policy. Flat Out let's discuss it 11:20, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Masterpeace3. I just want to tell you this: every user has his talk page. It might be empty (as it was in this case), but that does not prevent you from leaving messages on the (empty) talk page. Technically speaking, the talk page does not exist at the beginning (the link is red), but as soon as you leave a message it does exist (the link becomes blue). Vanjagenije (talk) 13:01, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Infobox

I am not able to add an infobox to my article. Kindly guideShobi Paulraj (talk) 10:21, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

You need to use Template:Infobox person rather than the generic Template:Infobox. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 10:29, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

But more important than the infobox is that you need to read WP:Your first article, WP:notability, WP:BIO, WP:Autobiography, and WP:conflict of interest. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:33, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Template RefImprove

Hi,

I have a question about using Refimprove. I am working on improving Kanji kentei. The article was marked with an additional citations needed for verification  template in June 2008. Even though it has been almost 6 years, the article is still lacking sufficient citations. So, I am wondering if I can do the following:

1. Change the date in the template to February 2014 2008; or
2. Add an Expand Japanese template to the article.

I am not sure about #1 simply because leaving the date as is indicates how long this has been a problem. On there other hand, if there is some kind of date-related indexing involved with pages such as these, then a page taggedtemplated 6 years ago might have been long since archived.

To me, #2 seems harmless, especially since there areexists quite a number of Japanese sources related to this test that could be used and good English sources may be difficult to find. However, I've never added this kind of template before so not sure of the ramifications, if there are any. Expand Japanese may also bring this page to the attention of editors interested in this type of thing, and, thus, lead to the page being improved.

Any suggestions? Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:04, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. As you suggest, the date in the template shouldn't be changed, this shows how long the problem has existed. As for #2, the text of the template is "This article may be expanded with text translated from the corresponding article in the Japanese Wikipedia." Now the corresponding article is ja:日本漢字能力検定. If you can read Japanese (I can't) and can see that this is a superior article, then please do add the template. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 09:48, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply LukeSurl. I am familiar with that Japanese Wikipedia article and can translate what is needed myself. I just wasn't sure if it was OK for non-admins to add such templates or if it was OK to cite lots of foreign language sources for an English Wikipedia article. - Marchjuly (talk) 11:34, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Yes, non-admins can add and remove templates. Generally the only admin-only roles are the things that only admins can (according to the restrictions of the software) technically perform, and closing discussions regarding such actions.

As per Wikipedia:Verifiability#Non-English_sources, non-English sources are perfectly acceptable, though if equivalent English-language sources exist these are preferred. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 11:53, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Marchjuly. If you want to translate the article from Japanese Wikipedia, be sure to follow this policy: Wikipedia:Translation. If you translate the article, you have to attribute its content to its original writers (those from Japanese Wikipedia). Without attributing content to its creators, you would make a copyrights violation. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:51, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to all you replied for your suggestions. - Marchjuly (talk) 13:23, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

I want to contribute here while using Tor. Is there any way?

I like to use Tor to browse the Internet whenever possible to bypass USA government surveillance programs that scare me.

Since I joined Wikipedia a few months ago I had hoped to be able to apply for an exception to Wikipedia:No open proxies, and I think I now have a good enough editing record: I have an account, contribute very frequently to Wikipedia—every day—and have managed to rack up just under 4000 edits without any blocks, bans, or even warnings. Though I've heard vandals have abused Tor in the past, is it possible at all to use it here? It's not like I plan to vandalize anything.

While trying to figure this out, I noticed Wikipedia:Advice to users using Tor linked to the Unblock Ticket Request System, but am not clear if that's where I should go, since all it talks about is appealing existing blocks from administrators, not block exceptions to Tor. I can't tell if it's a bad link and no longer an option or what.

Also, would I be forced to use Tor all the time? I use multiple computers to edit Wikipedia, one of which is pretty slow and I don't expect to be able to use Tor on. I don't want to get something and then get it taken away from not following the rules.

Thanks in advance, meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 00:47, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Administrator assistance needed

I need the assistance of an administrator to deal with a trouble some user causing many issues. He has gone around Wikipedia pushing his POV, lying, using original research, forum shopping, etc. I posted this originally at the Administrator Noticeboard but sadly it has been neglected. Is their someone willing to help me? (AcidSnow talk) 00:06, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi AcidSnow, this is not really the place for your request but I have reviewed your posts at ANI and there are still being dealt with so I suggest you wait for the issue to be resolved there. Best wishes Flat Out let's discuss it 00:14, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, it's been 4 days since I posted and no one has really helped me. I have tried to solve it with the user before, yet he ignores my messages and stales the discussion. Thank you anyways, AcidSnow (talk) 00:19, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Referencing

Hi, I just made my first page ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Presley ), and I have tried to include as many references as possible. Have I been referencing things correctly? Thank you! 22:22, 3 February 2014 (UTC)Dan anj (talk)

@Dan anj: Hey Dan. Welcome. So I went through the article and I've fixed a few issues. The reference template parameter |first= which you were using is for an author's first name (and is paired with |last=). You wouldn't normally use it as you were. When you cite to a website like Allmusic, you should indicate that with the |publisher= parameter (which I've done for all). I've also combined one reference you cited twice. See Help:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once.

The bigger issue is that most of citations are to Discogs, which is a site with user-generated content, "a community-built database" and therefore there is no way to verify that its entries are correct. What I suggest is that you start building the article up with sources from more reliable sources, which you might find through a search like Google Books. Unfortunately, Google News (archive) used to be a very valuable resources to find newspaper articles, but it's almost useless now and will be for at least a few more months while the supposed rebuilding of it takes place. Anyway, try to find more reliable sources to work from like (non-vanity published) books, newspaper articles and magazine write ups. Note that reliable sources do not need to be online to be used. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse. On the technical side, you are doing the references correctly. However, as the messages at the top show, there seem to be some issues with the sources you are referencing. They should be reliable and in most cases independent of the subject. You can click the links in the messages for more information. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 23:36, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

References for my page.

Hey everyone! I am working on a page for a Boy Scout Camp in Oregon and I wanted to ask for help with the references. There is a first person book written by a guy named Kenneth Wells who worked at Camp Meriwether when it was first built called "An Early History of Camp Meriwether" and it addresses everything talked about in this article I am working on. There are a few Boy Scout Camps on Wikipedia and the references they use do not seem to be that strong. For an organization (the boy Scouts) that typically does not keep great records of individual camps, how can I keep this page from being deleted. (It is one of only camps with its own history book about it and it is one of the oldest.

Thanks! Here is the link (the page is in its VERY preliminary stages of development: Camp Meriwether (Oregon)

Jacob Mehringer (talk) 21:13, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. If you want to use the book as a reference, use {{cite book}} with relevant parameters. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Jacob Mehringer. I am afraid the only way to keep the page from being deleted is to find reliable independent sources that have written about it: if such sources don't exist, then Wikipedia should not have an article on the subject. The book might possibly be one such source, but since it appears to have been published by an organ of the BSA, it is not independent (and possibly not to be considered reliable), so it cannot be used to establish the subject's notability. In any case, one such reference is not sufficient. I also observe that you have a lot of headings, and even if you manage to find the references to establish that the camp as a whole is notable, I would be very surprised if you could find sources for all that detail, so most of the headings should go.

My advice to you is to look for books or major newspapers etc that have written about the camp; and if you can't find any, give up on the article. (Note that whether or not the BSA keeps records is entirely irrelevant, except insofar as somebody independent might have used such records in a published work). I have reformatted your link to the article as a wikilink. --ColinFine (talk) 21:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello. Can I suggest moving the page to Draft:Camp Meriwether (Oregon) while you are working on it? At the moment the text is in the main body of the encylopedia and has the status of a "full" article. It is also liable to be deleted if a New Pages Patroller does not look favourably upon it. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 21:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you all! I agree on the headings. I have found another council camp and will model after them (Camp Pioneer (Oregon)) As for moving the page to the draft, I am actually not entirely sure how to do that. Thank you all for your help. It is much appreciated.Jacob Mehringer (talk) 21:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I can offer to help if needed. --evrik ^(talk) 22:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Jacob--I have moved it for you. I am impressed with the research you have done, but it does lack references that show notability. Might I suggest searching The Oregonian and other Oregon newspapers for stories on the camp? That will show notability. Also, you might wish to check the GNIS, as sometimes camp names have been entered in the government database of names. If that is the case, you could show notability by referencing that. On the subject of referencing, I do see two problems with the references on your article. firstly, we never reference back to Wikipedia. Also, seldom is a reference to YouTube considered useful and frequently, they can be copyright problems. Good luck. The above link should now be blue, and there is a redirect in place for the article name. John from Idegon (talk) 22:26, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I moved it to keep it consistent with the other camp pages. --evrik ^(talk) 22:28, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

evrik, Thank you very much! I would love any help you are willing to offer! Thanks a ton!

Jacob Mehringer (talk) 03:16, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

The draft seems to have been moved back into the main space (this seems to be an accident as it went via the Wikipedia: space). --LukeSurl ^{t c} 10:36, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

List of books

I notice that several bibliography pages for living people list their published works. I had edited that in a site I was working on and someone came and removed it all. I didn't have any links back to where the books were listed as I understand that to mean promotional. Can you list books and if so, what is the proper way to do that and put it back on the page without it getting removed again? 208.104.28.202 (talk) 17:23, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. Can you, please, be more specific? What is the article you talk about? Vanjagenije (talk) 12:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Inadequate evidence on subject's notability

My article about my company has been declined because of "inadequate evidence on subject's notability". Since my company is relatively new so I'm afraid there's no secondary sources I can cite. Can you provide some guidance on how to resolve this?184.77.104.243 (talk) 17:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

If no secondary sources exist, no article should exist as the company does not meet the WP:NCORP guidelines as to which companies Wikipedia has articles about. This is normal for new companies. Wikipedia does not aim to be a directory of every company that exists. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 17:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

I can not find a page on Hans Helle anymore

Is there information available as to why I can not find the page on Hans Helle anymore?75.235.147.173 (talk) 15:03, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

The only appearance of Hans Helle in the English Wikipedia is an a spam report - or do you mean Hans Hjelle ? - Not that that article is very long. Arjayay (talk) 15:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

There is an article on the Norwegian Wikipedia about a Hans Helle. Looking at the logs, I cannot see any indication that the English Wikipedia has, or has ever had, an article called Hans Helle or Hans Arnesen Helle. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 15:36, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

putting a photo in an article?

I contacted the author of a website about moths and butterflies when i was editing Hypercompe_ocularia. He has given me permission via email to put his photo of the moth on our page. I just need help doing that please. I see where it goes, just not sure how i download it from his webpage. Reefswaggie (talk) 14:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Woah there - it's a bit more complicated than that, I'm afraid. You can't upload a copyrighted image to Wikipedia under the claim that the copyright owner is okay with that. Firstly, the owner of the copyright (have you ascertained that the webmaster owns the copyright? He may not) needs to release the image for free reuse under a CC-BY-SA or similar licence - they can't release it only for use on Wikipedia. Secondly, we need proof of their permission, either by them posting a CC-BY-SA notice on their website, or by having them email the Wikipedia Response Team directly. I'm sorry to rain on your parade, but if you upload the photo based on the information you've just given, it will simply be deleted - image copyright is pretty complicated here. Have a look at Donating copyrighted materials and the Image use policy for more information. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Yunshui. I don't mind rain. That is what I needed to know. The webmaster is also the photographer. I will look into it some more. Wow if it is that hard it is amazing how many photos are on wikipedia already! Reefswaggie (talk) 14:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

There's a lot of free piccies out there... Incidentally, assuming that you can overcome the copyright issue and get the image suitably released (it shouldn't be a problem, it just requires a few extra steps), then you'd need to look at uploading the picture to Wikimedia Commons, rather than to Wikipedia - most of the images we have are actually located at Commons. Wikipedia can host certain types of non-free files, but an image of a moth would fail the fair use requirement for such files. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:57, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Relationship between learning and talent development in the literature

Are the two concepts( learning and talent dvelopment) treated as the same by literature or differently. And their relationship.86.30.149.197 (talk) 12:13, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Please do your own homework.

Welcome to Wikipedia. Your question appears to be a homework question. I apologize if this is a misinterpretation, but it is our aim here not to do people's homework for them, but to merely aid them in doing it themselves. Letting someone else do your homework does not help you learn nearly as much as doing it yourself. Please attempt to solve the problem or answer the question yourself first. If you need help with a specific part of your homework, feel free to tell us where you are stuck and ask for help. If you need help grasping the concept of a problem, by all means let us know. - Arjayay (talk) 13:06, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

If you need more help on this question, you can try asking for help at the reference desk. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 23:46, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Help with editing. New to the editor community.

Hi all, I just joined Wiki community of editors and as a task was given to edit this page : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Washingtonians . But, I couldn't find anything more to do on this page. Can anyone help me with this? Am I missing something that I should be careful next time? Priyankp87 (talk) 12:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Priyankp87. I know the feeling - many's the time I've looked through an article and thought, "well, not much left for me to do here..." However, unless the page is a Featured Article, there's almost certainly something you can do to make it better (and even Featured Articles can be improved!). Why not try rating the page against the criteria for Good Articles, and see where it falls down? That might give you some ideas for fixes that need to be made. You could also look at the sourcing - that definitely needs work. Or you could look at the relevant section of the Manual of Style, and see how closely you can get the article to adhere to Wikipedia's ideal. Trust me; there's going to be something that needs doing! Yunshui 雲‍水 13:49, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Requests for features

About a month ago, I asked for administor uses, however, I was told, since I only joined in November 2013, I should wait a while. Considering I have been reverting vandalism and been focusing on HoshiNoKaabii2000 and TreCoolGuy, do you think I could get uses of Rollback or CheckUser? TDFan2006 (talk) 10:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi TDFan. I would think you would be fine to request rollback rights, but the requirements for check user are very strict and much more experience is needed, to the extent that they are required to be administrators before applying. Be wary about attempting to gain user rights for the sake of it though, they should be requested out of needing them, not as trophies. Samwalton9 (talk) 11:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

USER BOX

I have created this userbox. Please have a look on it and inform me if it is valid or not. And how can I avail it for other users.You can improve it.

This user is not an administrator but works like one

Rudra john cena (talk) 07:59, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

One problem of the user box is that the second "administrator" is linked, and thus blue. The background is also blue, so the word is totally invisible. Vanjagenije (talk) 17:52, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

You are, of course, free to put that user box onto your user pages, but it does not make any sense to me. What does it mean "to work as an administrator"? If you are not an administrator, then you can't work most of the job administrators can. And, yes, it should be "an administrator", not "a administrator". Vanjagenije (talk) 17:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• I have made some more changes in the template. Have you created any template? List it at Wikipedia:Userboxes#Gallery Tito☸Dutta 19:11, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• I don't see the point to this userbox. What is it to "work like an administrator"? Administrators are just regular users like you or I, they just have established a higher level of trust in the community and are given a few extra tools to assist with management of the wiki. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 19:21, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Some users don't have enough experiences or number of edits. But they try to help new users like an experienced user like an administrator. This user box can be used by them. Have you understand Technical 13 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudra john cena (talk • contribs) 20:05, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Please don't use that, Rudra john cena: in my view you are just creating confusion. Many editors are experienced and try to help people without being administrators: I am one such. It seems to me you have a personal view of what "act like an administrator" means, which is fine, But since that doesn't correspond to what an administrator on Wikipedia does, I think it may confuse people if you use it in a userbox like that. --ColinFine (talk) 20:17, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Ok. Fine. thankyou all of you for your contributions. And Titodutta thankyou bondhu. Rudra john cena (talk) 20:26, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• @Rudra john cena: There seems to be User:Spitfire19/Userboxes/Fake Admin, which looks like this:

This user acts like an administrator on the English Wikipedia but really isn't one.

But I'm guessing it's humorous. --Jakob (talk) 20:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• There might be something like "This user is not an administrator but sometimes seeing his excellent works and persuasive arguments you may confuse him as an admin". I know many editors like BlueMoonset, Mandarax who deserve it. More a barnstar topic? --Tito☸Dutta 20:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

@Titodutta I think it is a good idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rudra john cena (talk • contribs) 20:54, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

• Note that I've disabled the display of User:Spitfire19/Userboxes/Fake Admin due to it breaking the formatting of the page below this section eating the margins. — {{U|Technical 13}} ^{(t • e • c)} 20:58, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
  • It should be fixed now. Ross HillTalk to me! 22:15, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Help - Wikipedia page for registered trademark magazine

Need help creating this. Wikipedia is simply over my head - being honest. Rogers Jason (talk) 06:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Rogers Jason. I suggest reading Your first article, and also, The Primer. Please feel free to ask specific questions here. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:08, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Infobox

Hi. I've been trying to add additional details in the infobox section of Krishan Kumar Modi's article. But even after adding the necessary details, the additional text isn't reflected in the article. Maybe I am doing something wrong. Can anyone help out?

DisojaK Disojak (talk) 06:38, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. I guess that your question has been answered at WP:HD#editing an infobox? It is normally better not to ask the same question in multiple places, as that can result in editors wasting time answering questions which have already been answered elsewhere. - David Biddulph (talk) 07:53, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi David. Thanks for your message. But I didn't feel my query had been answered satisfactorily. Are there any customisable infobox templates available?

DisojaKDisojak (talk) 11:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

If you have further questions arising from the replies which you received at WP:HD#editing an infobox, that is the place to ask them. If you were to start trying to continue a discussion here, the conversation would get split and confused. - David Biddulph (talk) 16:56, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

IP is showing

Hi,

I just made two edits to Talk:Carrier (documentary) without realizing that I wasn't logged in. I'm wondering if an admin can remove my IP address and replace it with my user name. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 06:34, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Marchjuly, please go to WP:AN or WP:ANI to find an administrator actively posting, and ask for help. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:39, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Cullen - Marchjuly (talk) 07:02, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Result of Review

Hi. I was notified that my article was reviewed. May I please know where to find results of the review, comments, etc? Stampchung (talk) 02:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Stampchung. As the note on your talk page says, your article Juno Sauler was accepted, and is now part of the encyclopedia. That's the favorable result, and normally, specific comments are only provided when a draft article is declined. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:47, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

It was accepted at Articles for Creation long ago. The review message is something different. [1] shows it was recently marked as reviewed by Wgolf . That only means Wgolf clicked a button as described at Wikipedia:Page Curation/Help#What is Mark as Reviewed and how does it work? There are no associated comments. PrimeHunter (talk) 04:00, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the link to the Page Curation page. I read through and it clarified several things for me. Best regards. Stampchung (talk) Stampchung (talk) 04:32, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Need help creating a musician page

I'm working on creating a page for Joshua Winstead, an American songwriter and musician. He is the bass player of the band Metric and the lead singer and guitar player of the group Bang Lime. I have saved what I have so far on my user page. I was wondering if I could get some help in adding more information and references. Battoad (talk) 22:14, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Battoad, firstly you should work on articles in your sandbox or at a draft article such as Draft:Joshua Winstead rather than on your user page. As for the article itself you should try to look for sources which aren't interviews as these aren't usually considered reliable sources since we have to take the subject's word for it that what they're saying is true and important. Hope that helps a little. Samwalton9 (talk) 23:48, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

How to bypass my cache?.

Hi, I am using a script and I need to bypass my cache, How do I do it? (Please take note of these two facts: 1.I am using safari 2. I am using an iPad)Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 16:33, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Hi Andrei. Please see Wikipedia:Bypass your cache#Safari. If these instructions do not make sense for iPad editing, with which I am not familiar, please advise. Someone who knows better than I do will hopefully then be along. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 16:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for replying, but since iPads use touchscreens I don't know what the shift looks like in the digital keyboard, since it is different from a computer ::keyboard.(but I do have an arrow pointing up in it, but I tried to use it with the reload and nothing happened but it only reloaded. (I received a message and there was no orange bar))Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 16:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs) 16:55, 2 February 2014‎ (UTC)

Hi, this appears to be a good guide to clearing your cache. Samwalton9 (talk) 23:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't have something called 'clear cache' in my setting, so I need to look for another way.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 06:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, I have fixed the problem, it actually appears that I entered the wrong code, thanks for all of you who have tried to help me the best you can. Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 08:31, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Rejection of an article's update

I am new to Wikipedia and I am still in the process of learning. I want to do things right and if this is not always the case, I want to learn from my mistakes. I recently updated an article on Tigridia Pavonia and added information such as description, height, varieties, etc. My update was removed and I do not understand why. I tried to get an understanding from the Wikipedia member who canceled my edit but I didn't hear from him. Can someone tell me what I did wrong? Thank you so much! (Isamenton (talk) 16:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC))

I imagine that the reason for that edit being reverted was because you provided no references to published reliable sources to support the information you were trying to add. If you wanted to discuss it with the editor who reverted your edit you could have asked at his user talk page; he provided you with a link to it for that purpose. I have put a welcome message on your user talk page, including a number of useful links for you. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:52, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Maps

Hi, how would I go about uploading/updating maps such as File:Fort Boyard States play.svg? Thanks, Matty.007 15:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

You have to edit the file on your own computer and upload a new version, or request somebody else to do it. See commons:Help:SVG, Wikipedia:SVG help and Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop for some options. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:50, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Matty.007 17:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Maybe you know this part but the example you mention is at Commons. If you click "description page there" or the Commons icon at the top right then you go to its Commons page which should have a link saying "Upload a new version of this file". PrimeHunter (talk) 17:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Matty, its extremely simple. Go to this page, save the file with .svg extension → Download Inkscape → Open the file with it → Select embed → Use the fill bucket [I think thats what you want to do] to highlight the specific regions. After you've done save it as Inkscape SVG. Use the upload new version. Done. Soham 15:52, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Citations

Hi! I'm new to editing and I haven't figured out how to cite a source that has already been sourced without copy-pasting the source. How do I do the <ref> nickname, so that the source is only referenced once?

For reference, I've edited the page for Hilla Rebay.— Preceding unsigned comment added by BettyLondon (talk • contribs) 15:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Betty. Please see Help:Referencing for beginners#Same reference used more than once. In short, the first time you use a reference, give it a name:

<ref name="Shakespeare">Citation text<ref>

The next time you want to use that citation again, just use the opening name part, but place a closing slash:

<ref name="Shakespeare" />

Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

P.S. When you type certain markup like <ref> when you want to describe it but not have it work (such as in your post above), you can tell the software not to "understand" the code by surrounding it in nowiki tags (<nowiki>snippet of code/markup</nowiki>). I did this for you above, since that code was not displaying and caused an unintentional problem.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 15:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

My first article

Hi, I am currently making my first article (or more precisely, waiting for my autoconfirmation so I can upload an image). I would like to ask for anyone to comment on it or suggest something to help me develop it while I wait for my auto confirmation. Thanks (Click here to visit). Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 12:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse! Special:GettingStarted will always have small tasks for editors to complete. Consider joining a WikiProject, a collaborative group for certain topics, that you may be interested in. WikiProjects tend to have task lists. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. Bananasoldier (talk) 18:55, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

rejection of new article

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Spore (agricultural publication)

I sent the following message to User talk:Arthur goes shopping, who rejected the above article. I am not a novice and have made many contributions to Wikipedia.

I was very surprised that you rejected this article on the grounds that Spore is not notable. It has a circulation of 70,000, is very widely read and much appreciated in 79 ACP developing countries. As well, if this is not a notable publication then please tell me why the following magazines that appear in the Agricultural Magazine category are considered notable. I could just about accept the rejection of Spore if Wikipedia was being consistent but Spore is certainly more notable than any of the following and the article provides more information than is provided about any of the following.Hereford World, High Plains Journal, Small Farmer's Journal, Smallholder (magazine), Western Livestock Journal, The Western Producer. Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 09:12, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I'd welcome further explanation as Wikipedia does not appear to be very consistent here. Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 09:38, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. The first thing you need to do is to read Wikipedia's definition of notability. You need to include references that demonstrate that the subject of the article has received significant coverage in published reliable sources that are independent of the subject. There are further specific guidelines at Wikipedia:Notability (periodicals). If you demonstrate compliance with Wikipedia's requirements, then your AFC draft will be accepted. One argument which will not be accepted is other stuff exists; if you have identified articles which should not exist in Wikipedia, you can nominate them for deletion through the appropriate part of the deletion process. --David Biddulph (talk) 10:26, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

The problem I face is that there is clear evidence that Spore receives a lot of coverage but that that coverage is not necessarily something that should go in an article. From a brief Google, just to give you some idea: http://teeal.org/fr/node/2234 describes Spore as “ prestigious” while http://aru.ac.ug/component/content/article/8-application-deadline/103-aru-in-spore-magazine.html refers to it as “famous”. http://businessinnovationfacility.org/group/agribusiness/forum/topics/spore-online-magazine-for-agriculture-and-rural-development?xg_source=activity “ says it is a great magazine for agricultural and rural development” It is featured by the World Meteorological Organization http://library.wmo.int/opac/index.php?lvl=publisher_see&id=297, and the International Institute for Water and Environmental Engineering http://documentation.2ie-edu.org/cdi2ie/opac_css/index.php?lvl=notice_display&id=25340. ::Websites link to articles, e.g. http://ypard.net/resources/spore-magazine-issue-no-159-june-july-2012, http://news-agriculture.blogspot.it/2011/12/spore-magazine-issue-no-156-december.html and http://evergreenagriculture.net/growing-crops-under-canopy-spore-magazine. Organizations and media reproduce Spore articles, e.g. Africa Online http://www.afronline.org/?p=29228#more-29228 and http://www.belizepoultry.com/News/ViewNews/tabid/87/ArticleId/51/Poultry-Making-the-cut-SPORE-Magazine-No-164-June-July-2013.aspx although as the target audience is in developing countries these often still do not appear on the web. Another example is http://www.cityfarmer.info/2012/02/24/spore-magazine-urban-agriculture-city-farmers/ . Spore is listed on portals such as http://zunia.org/post/spore-the-bi-monthly-magazine-of-cta and http://tilz.tearfund.org/en/resources/publications/footsteps/footsteps_81-90/footsteps_89/resources/ A collection of back numbers is even maintained by a Ukrainian university http://collections.infocollections.org/ukedu/en/d/Jcta65e/5.html. So I think the above is a pretty convincing case for notability but it would be a very boring article that just listed a lot of web sites that reproduced articles. Thanks Roundtheworld (talk) 10:41, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

revelance and references

I would like to post information about Volta Caberet, a comedy night some friends and I were involved in, there is no record of it online though it received a lot of print publicity through the years. It was important in the context of comedic/drama in Dublin city and I would like to write about it.

Can I get help with editing the article?

I have good information, but I am having problems posting reference links and categorizing the piece. Eleven1972 (talk) 09:34, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Eleven1972. If there is a indeed lot of print about them (that is substantial, and independent of the subject, i.e. not just listings and not their own publicity and press releases, but writing at length about them) then you can certainly write an article: online links are convenient, but not required. I suggest you use the Article wizard (or some people find The Wikipedia Adventure a helpful way to get started). --ColinFine (talk) 11:05, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

How to do it?

Hi, I want to add back the You have new messages notification bar. So I found this script here but I don't know how to add it, can someone please tel me how, thanks.--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 09:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

1. Bring up User:Andrei Marzan/common.js in a new tab.
2. copy

   importScript('User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/orangeBar.js'); //Linkback: [[User:Writ Keeper/Scripts/orangeBar.js]]

3. paste it into the first line
4. hit save with an edit summary like "Created my javascript page with orangeBar" or something
5. Bypass your cache. Most browsers use Ctrl+F5 but if that doesn't work try the instructions here
6. Done.

meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 10:26, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't have a subpage called User:Andrei Marzan/common.js. I also use safari, which means I just have to reload to bypass my cache.--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 11:13, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Can you please tell me how to create it? My mind tells me that I should create it by clicking the red link.--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 11:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Yes, click the redlink. --David Biddulph (talk) 11:21, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I should've made that clear... meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 11:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 11:47, 2 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Hi, I have finally added back the so-called Orange bar of doom. Turns out that the code meteor_sandwich_yum gave me was wrong, but thanks anyway.-Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa (talk) 08:35, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Requesting templates for creation

I have an idea for a wikipedia template (or infobox..I'm not really sure of the correct name but the little yellow things at the top of talk pages) for talk pages that tend to get into heated discussions... I was wondering if there was a way to submit the idea for inclusion in standard templatesNickmxp (talk) 04:05, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. I'm not sure exactly what you're aiming for in your template, but it sounds a bit like Template:Calm talk.

If that doesn't fit your needs, you can always be bold and make one yourself. The process for creating a template is pretty much the same for creating articles - there is no formal requirement or process to go through. I'd take a look at our template talk page for a good guide for creating templates.

If you don't want to create one yourself, there is Wikipedia:Requested templates, where you can request a template be made - I'm not sure how much activity that page gets, though. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:44, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Nickmxp and welcome to the Teahouse! I see you've already gotten one response with some good ideas. Another option, if you think creating your own talk page banner is out of your league, is you can request one be made on WP:WikiProject Templates. Technical 13 (talk) 04:59, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I did get bold and started a design and was looking for more input.. I would like to submit this template I created in my sandbox... Template:Rational Nickmxp (talk) 08:49, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I think I understand now... a template is linked the same way an article would be so it would show the template rather than the link to the article using wiki mark up.. is this correct? Nickmxp (talk) 05:08, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I think I figured it out... Template:Rational is this correct? If it is then thanks for the guidance! Nickmxp (talk) 06:37, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Not quite - templates user curly brackets ( { } ) instead of normal brackets ( [ ] ). The curly brackets "transclude" the content from whatever page is within the curly brackets.

As for the template, it's a nice idea, but definitely way too large for a talk page. Talk page headers should typically be small and concise. Most editors are aware of talk page conduct, and not many would bother reading the entirety of the chart. There's room for debate, but I think using Template:Calm talk or Template:Calm are the best options when discussions can get heated. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 08:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

I had been wondering about the size too. I really do like the idea, though. A bit repetitious, but I like Graham's model.

I'm going to see if I can scale it down but make it readable. Not that much trouble to delete templates, you can always tag them with {{subst:db-self}} meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 08:39, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

It's a work in progress...I scaled down the image because it was too large and found another aweome editor who is helping me clean it up! My hope with the rational template is to remind editors to base their disagreement on substance... rather than focus on the tone like the calm template does. as long as they read "the top three" the objective is accomplished.Nickmxp (talk) 08:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC) And thanks to the (pardon my american) mad wiki skillz of Meteor sandwich yum I do believe we have something that is pretty workable!Nickmxp (talk) 11:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you. You made me feel really great helping you. I hope it works for you (and others).  :) meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Book creation

How can I create more than one book? I'd like to work on at least two books.Avriel1 (talk) 09:01, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Article questions

I do not know what to do with this type of articles? Is there a deletion criteria for it or it has notability as such? --BiH (talk) 08:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! As the bottom text says, you can help by expanding the article, that is, by adding more information from reliable sources. If, however, you cannot find enough information from such sources, this street may not be notable and should be deleted. (The article was created only 2 days ago, so I'll hold off on calling for deletion.) --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 18:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

There are no specific notability criteria for streets and locations, but it still must meet the general notability guidelines. --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 18:09, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

About verifiability of sources

I'm working on an article about a writer but there are 3 sources I'd like to include but can't get verification for because too much time seems to have passed. (1) This writer was quoted and named in an Edward R. Murrow radio broadcast in 1953. I have a typescript of the entire broadcast with a letter from Mr. Murrow but the radio station has no records going back that far. Can I include this mention as a source? (2) One of this writer's books seems to have been serialized on another radio station in the 1950s but again I have no record other than correspondence about it. Can this be included? (3) The writer gave some invited lectures at a university in the 1950s but there is probably no record of this. Can this be included? And one more issue: this person was given fellowships to the MacDowell colony twice. I have written to MacDowell for verification of the dates of her residency there but may not get a reply, though she is listed on their Website. Can I mention these fellowships even without the exact years?Morgan Le Fay (talk) 03:41, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Morgan Le Fay. Here are my thoughts: One of our core principles is verifiability. Someone must be able to verify any information in the encyclopedia, even if that verification is not necessarily easy. Let's start with the radio broadcast, item #1. Certainly, Edward R. Murrow was a reliable source. However, regarding broadcast sources, "an archived copy of the media must exist". Is your typescript an "archived copy"? Is your copy the only known copy, or are other copies available at a Murrow collection at a museum, for example? Those are the sorts of questions that would help determine whether or not that source should be used. As for item #2, private, unpublished correspondence is not an acceptable source on Wikipedia. Item #3, if you have no published record of the university lectures, then there is no reliable source to verify that they took place. As for your final point, you can mention the fellowships and cite that to the McDowell website. Don't mention the years, as you have no source for that, and a private letter or email doesn't qualify. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:15, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Questions about the user contributions page

What do the numbers in () mean? What does the +or- mean? What does bold mean? I'm guessing read means I messed up somehow.Jessica0Peace (talk) 03:08, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

• Hello again and welcome back to the Teahouse Jessica0Peace! Those numbers are simply a technical number of how many characters you added or removed from the page (technically bytes). red numbers - means you removed and green + numbers means you added. doesn't make the edit good or bad (removing stuff is sometimes needed to make good articles) Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 03:21, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

• @Jessica0Peace: And bold means over 500 characters were either added or removed. meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 03:26, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

• Help:Watching pages#How to read a watchlist applies to the contributions page as well and will be as clear as any of us can offer here. :) Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 04:53, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Are there other ways to make a "pipe" symbol?

Please disregard the question. I learned that the back splash is the symbol above the enter key. Jessica0Peace (talk) 02:45, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

• It's actually still a good question for many other reasons. Pipes and templates or links don't always get along well and knowing other ways of displaying them is important. You can use the | pipe symbol, &124; html entity, or use the template that adds it for you {{!}}. Happy editing! Technical 13 (talk) 02:56, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
  • And {{Pipe}} too... meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 03:11, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Is there a place to recommend a page creation?

In the case of a conflict of interest, is there a way to suggest the creation of a particular page to other users?Jessica0Peace (talk) 01:43, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Articles for creation is an acceptable method for someone with a conflict of interest to draft an article, Jessica0Peace. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 03:30, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Is it a conflict of interest?

Is creating a biography page for a deceased great-great grandfather whom I've never met a conflict of interest?Jessica0Peace (talk) 01:40, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jessica0Peace - If you feel that you can write an article impartially about him, I wouldn't particularly worry about doing so. It may represent a conflict of interest on some level, but a lot of Wikipedia editors write about things that they have at least some degree of personal connection to (and thus some degree of potential COI.) Especially with people who have died and where there's not a commercial interest at stake, I don't view writing about a subject distantly related to you as a problem - and you may be the only person in a good position to write about them (since your family may be the only group that held on to the collated sources about him depending on his prominence.) We don't have a formal guideline regarding what degree of COI is acceptable, but I think that the idea of de minimis non curat lex applies. Kevin Gorman (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

What is going on with all the " and . and , on this page?

Am I crazy, or is this page utterly screwed up when it comes to quotation marks, commas, and periods?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everybody_Draw_Mohammed_Day

I must have fixed a million things that even extend beyond these problems. Can someone take a look at this page?

Marc Bago (talk) 00:10, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Should I always de-link deleted articles?

Whenever I come across a red link on a page that takes me to a previously deleted article, I always remove it, figuring it's useless. Is it, or does it have some benefit I'm just not aware of? meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 23:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, and welcome to the Teahouse. Red links should usually only exist if the linked article should exist (meaning that it is verifiable and notable). If the article was recently deleted due to a lack of notability, then yep, the red link should be removed, or redirected to a relevant article if appropriate. Wikipedia:Red link goes into great detail about this :) ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 23:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks :) meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 00:10, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

@Meteor sandwich yum: I agree with SuperHamster but wanted to state the subtext. Red links to title that were deleted not based on a discussion which explored notability and/or verifiability on the merits (i.e. at WP:AFD), should not be unlinked simply because they were deleted, and this would cover the majority of deletions that take place. More articles are speedily deleted than by any other method and none of the criteria speak to whether we should or should not have an article and thus whether red links are warranted. For example, the fact that a title was created as a copyvio, a test, an advertisement, or even whether it fails to state importance, tells you nothing about whether the topic is actually notable and verifiable and a proper article could be written but has not yet been. --Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:57, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Perhaps what I was looking for... couldn't quite place it. Gratzie. meteor_sandwich_yum (talk) 01:03, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

How can I divide an article of an author in early life, work, ...

I tried to write an article about Joygopal Podder. In other articles I saw that they are divided in parts like early life, work, awards and so on… How can i do that, please? :) 006john007 (talk) 23:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, welcome to the Teahouse! These divisions are known as section headings. They are created by putting equals signs around the name of the section: == Early life ==

Subsections can be created with three equals signs === Childhood ===, and you can have up to five levels (six equals signs). --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:19, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much Anon126 ! I try to insert them. Good night! from Switzerland.

006john007 (talk) 00:27, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

New Article

I submitted a new article for submission about 4 weeks ago. It is still to be reviewed. Do you know how long before a new article is reviewed? It is not especially long or complicated and i have put several references in it.

Thanks Ashley Columbus (talk) 21:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. If you mean Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Halton Lea Gate, it isn't on the list of Pending AfC submissions, so you need to click on the green submit button. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:49, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you David Biddulph (talk). I did submit it and notice that at the end of the article it states:

Categories: Draft AfC submission AfC submissions by date/22 January 2014 AfC submissions by date/05 January 2014 This is the link to the article: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Halton Lea Gate

What and where is the green submit button? I thought I had submitted it, having re read the rather confusing message at the head of the page? (Note: the submission-received box appears at the bottom of the page at first. If it's there, your draft has been submitted correctly, even if this message is still shown).

Ashley Columbus (talk) 22:00, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

In that box at the top of the page, the green button is at the bottom of that box, and says "Submit your draft when you are ready for it to be reviewed!". You don't yet have a submission-received box at the bottom of the page, and your article is in Category:Draft AfC submissions, not Category:Pending AfC submissions. --David Biddulph (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for explaining that. It still seems confusing but I have followed your instructions and hope it works this time. I do think the wording on the boxes of instruction could be clearer/simpler?

Ashley Columbus (talk) 23:46, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I have article shortcomings tags removed?

I have recently improved on an entry I created, my first, which one of the moderators tagged to show shortcomings in it. I have tried to improve most of these now. Will the large notice which rather defaces the article be removed or do I have to request this? The page is Philip Bounds, by the way. Many thanks for any help. CaryB42 (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello, CaryB42, and welcome to the Teahouse. Those tags are inserted, and removed, by any editor who thinks it appropriate; so if you believe you have addressed the issues, you may remove the tags. However, if I look at the article Philip Bounds (I have linked that by putting it between double square brackets, so : [[Philip Bounds]]), it appears to me that all the tags in that article are still appropriate. There is only one formatted reference, which seems to point to reviews by Philip Bounds, and so can do nothing to demonstrate his notability in the special Wikipedia sense. Of the two book reviews, one might just do to establish notability, but on its own it is borderline, because it is about the book, not about the man. (The other book review link is broken). In order to be able to remove the first two tags, you need to find reliable sources which have written at length about Philip Bounds. The last tag will be addressed by finding more relevant articles to link to, in the way you have to marxism. --ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your help. I will do my best to address the issues that have been raised. I have a lot more material to add yet. It's just a slow process as I'm still learning the code. Thanks again. CaryB42 (talk) 21:12, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

how to clear sandbox?

I feel like an unfortunate cat. Trying to clear my sandbox to write a new article, but it seems to be stuck redirecting to my last edit on page Edith Diehl in some endless loop. I'm not sure where this redirect came from. Any thoughts? noranoodle (talk) 19:09, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, noranoodle, and welcome. When you click on the User:Nora Lockshin/sandbox link, it does not let you open it, but redirects you to the Edith Diehl article. But, watch out! Just under the title of the article ("Edith Diehl") there is small text that reads "(Redirected from User:Nora Lockshin/sandbox)". Click on that text, and you will open the sandbox itself. Then you can edit it the same way you edit any page. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:14, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) I've changed the redirect to a link, & you can do whatever further edits you want. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:18, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you very much to Vanjagenije & David! Seems all clear now! noranoodle (talk) 19:53, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hey Vanjagenije & David Biddulph. When I click on the small redirect text underneath the article the resulting page says: "This is a redirect from a page that has been moved/renamed. This page was kept as a redirect to avoid breaking links that may have been made, both internally and externally, to the old article title. This template automatically tags any redirect that results from a page move. For more information, see the category." I can't seem to edit my Sandbox without editing the article. I think I may have moved it incorrectly when I published it. Any ideas? Thanks so much! AlexHollender (talk) 04:34, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

That's not a problem. When you see that message, you can still click the edit tab, and replace that redirect by whatever you want the new content of the sandbox to be. To be on the safe side, before you do that you can click on the "What links here" link in the left hand toolbar to confirm for yourself that nothing (or nothing significant) is relying on that redirect to get to your moved article. --David Biddulph (talk) 04:45, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Yes, David Biddulph is right. That message does not prevent you from editing. You can freely edit the sandbox and remove that message. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:39, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Updated one reference on the Winona County Minnesota information page, then lost everything

Was trying to bring back the font size for References, under Winona County information sheet on Wikipedia, but then lost all the references. Is there any way to recover those references?Wood Geek (talk) 15:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you were trying to do, but I started by putting it back to how it was this morning, and David Biddulph changed it again before I could sort it out. The reference now appears in "See also"" which I'm sure it shouldn't do. Arjayay (talk) 16:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Corrected, but the last reference needs to be moved to just after the text which it is supposed to be supporting. --David Biddulph (talk) 16:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thanks to both of you for cleaning this up. The last reference pertains to Geography and native vegetation, based upon NRCS soils information. The book cited has alot of NRCS soils information for Winona County and many other counties in Minnesota.Wood Geek (talk) 16:16, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

The last reference pertains to the pie chart or color wheel, but the book only has savanna soils. Most people want to see what all the soils are in a particular county, not just the savanna soils. The pie chart or color wheel answers all of that, showing what kind of soils are in the entire county.Wood Geek (talk) 16:34, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

One final note: there are 63 separate soil types for Winona County. The color wheel takes all 63 soil types and sorts them, by their native vegetation descriptions... into 11 different colors, so the reader can get a quick idea or profile of the native vegetation in the county.Wood Geek (talk) 16:57, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Received deletion... Don't understand why... HELP ME ! Thank you

Hello from Paris,

I created a page about the singer Bernie Adam... but I received message it was correct !!! My English is not as perfect as I would wish so I'm lost to keep on working on this page, sadly !

So I'm looking for some help... Thank you very much in advance.

Kind regards from Paris.

BA4ever BAFan4ever (talk) 15:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, BAFan4ever, and welcome to the Teahouse. I am not sure what you think when you say you "received message it was correct". Actually, you received a message on your talk page that the article you created, Bernie Adam, is nominated for speedy deletion under A7 criteria (the article was later deleted). That means that you wrote article about a person, but you did not explain why this person is significant, nor did you cite any reliable independent sources to prove his notability. That article is now deleted, so I can't see it's content (only administrators can), but, I can guess what happened. Wikipedia has high standards about notability, especially about the notability of living persons. Wikipedia's wp:Notability criteria is different from everyday usage of that word. In Wikipedia, notability of a person is proved by citing reliable sources (books, magazines, newspapers, serious web portals,...) that write about that person's life and work (not just mention him in passage, see: WP:42). Your article probably did not cite any references, and probably did not explain why the person is significant (see WP:PEOPLE to see the reasons person is/isn't regarded "notable" in Wikipedia). You may try to write the article again, but be sure to read carefully those links I provided in this post before doing so. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Adding outside links

I recently added some links to videos about certin persons. I felt the videos gave insight to the person. They were interviews with that person and gave insight into there thinking. Is this allowed? The videos were in Swedish as were the persons. Lawrence BergerLawrence Berger (talk) 13:27, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi, Lawrence Berger, and welcome to the Teahouse. Citing videos as sources, or linking videos as external links is not prohibited, but is regulated by certain Wikipedia policies. If you want to use an external video as a source, it should be reliable, independent and have significant coverage of the subject. Any video that is hosted illegally (which YouTube videos usually are) is not allowed. Using videos as external links (this is what you did [2]) is not forbidden, but must abide by Wikipedia's External links guidelines. You can read this essay to learn more about video links in Wikipedia: Wikipedia:Video links. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

About the theRedPenOfDoom

Dear Sirs, I created a page caled Niranjan Vanalli with reliable sources. He is an Indian journalist with a Karnataka Sahitya Academy Award equivalent to Booker in Karnataka. But some TheRedPenOfDoom has messaged me and proposed to delete the page as it talks of a person with a non notable award! I don't know what to do. I checked his talk page and found that he has done this to a lot of Wikipedians. Not only this - he's been reverting many of my edits for reasons of minimal value. He also says Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please help me out on this, It is important. Thankyou. Vighnesh HJ (talk) 12:16, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. He is quite correct in saying that Wikipedia is not a reliable source, see WP:CIRCULAR. You can find information about reliable sources at WP:RS. --David Biddulph (talk) 12:24, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Maybe User:TheRedPenOfDoom did make some mistakes in the past, but he is correct about this one. Wikipedia may only contain articles about wp:Notable subjects. Notability is proved by citing reliable sources that are independent of the subject and that significantly cover the subject. The sources you've cited do not belong to this group. You cited: subject's own web page and the web page of his university (not independent sources), The Hindu article one sentence long (no significant coverage) and some Rotary Club brochure (not reliable source). This is not enough to prove subjects Notability. You mention him being awarded some award, but you do not cite any relibale independent source to prove that the award is notable. Vanjagenije (talk) 12:52, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thankyou for the feedback. I will add references for the award, but I have also added the university of Mysore Website. And I also added a sidebar for the page Kamal Haasan, but User:TheRedPenOfDoom reverted it. I don't know why.Haasan revision page And the sources I gave for Daniel Day-lewis in method acting page apart from Wikipedia is I think, notable.Acting revisions Please help me. --Vighnesh HJ (talk) 15:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vighnesh HJ (talk • contribs) 13:13, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

You added Template:Kamal Haasan sidebar to the article Kamal Haasan ([3]), but it was removed by User:TheRedPenOfDoom ([4]). The reason he removed it is his opinion that a navbox with only three links is not useful. I have to agree with him. Not every page needs a navbox. There are already links for the filmography and awards articles in the main Kamal Haasan article, so there is no need to link those again using a navbox. You also added some refrenecs to the "Method acting" article ([5]) to prove that Daniel Day Lewis is a practitioner of method acting, but those were removed by the same user TheRedPenOfDoom ([6]). I have to agree with him again. You inserted three references. First one cites another Wikipedia artcile, which is not allowed per WP:Circular. The second reference you added cites The Telegraph article which actually nowhere claims that Day Lewis practices method acting. It even says that "that term amuses him". Third reference cite The Wall Street Journal article and claims that Day Lewis is "famous for his exploration of method acting". It actually does not say that he practices it. Now when I think better, maybe this third reference could stay, because, I guess, exploring method acting cannot go without practicing it. But, strictly speaking, TheRedPenOfDoom is right — none of the three references you added establish verifability. Vanjagenije (talk) 19:07, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thankyou very much. I'm all clear now.--Vighnesh HJ (talk) 10:35, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

Workaround to the CC-nocommercial?

Hi! I want to upload an image that is a screenshot of a videogame that the company took itself. The image is listed as creative commons but with a CC-noncommercial, so it doesn't fit the criteria for WikiMedia Commons. However, can this image still be uploaded under non-free uploading system? Thanks, -Bananasoldier (talk) 07:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hello Bananasoldier. Please refer to the guideline on Non-free content, which allows uploading videogame screenshots to Wikipedia (not Commons) for critical commentary on the game itself. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:57, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you! Bananasoldier (talk) 07:58, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

How to attribute a image to a source.

I was going to post a picture from wikimedia commons but I noticed that it is in the public domain and I just need to attribute it to the source (National Archives), I searched for it in Wikipedia but I only found answers for text, not images.Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 04:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Hi, no you don't need to attribute public domain images in any manner.--Mark Miller (talk) 05:01, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Andrei Marzan. When you add a freely licensed or public domain image from Wikipedia Commons to an article, then the proper attribution is already embedded with the image automatically. Any reader can click on the image to get a file description. They can then click on the Commons link there to get the full attribution associated with the image there. That's all that is required. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:04, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 05:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrei Marzan (talk • contribs)

Using foreign language sources for notability

Hi. I have just been reading a biography of a living person. The notability of the person is dependent on two foreign language (German) web articles and a third in English but which in my opinion does not show notability. Editors are supposed to be able to verify sources, however, I do not read German, so how can I verify that these two German sources support notability of the person? This is EN wikipedia, so shouldn't these be accessible to English speakers? Is there a policy on this? Thanks in advance for comments.__DrChrissy (talk) 03:33, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, DrChrissy. This is the free English language encyclopedia of the entire world and universe, not the encyclopedia of the English speaking world. Notability can be established by reliable sources in any language, and foreign language sources are perfectly acceptable here. In addition, it is not necessary that sources be available online. There are countless reliable sources in books, periodicals and newspapers that Google has not yet digitized. These are just as acceptable as sources available online. Accordingly, a book published by a reputable university press in a language you've barely heard of, which is not available online, is still a perfectly acceptable reliable source. The sources you mention are accessible to English speakers. You can go to your local college and enroll in a German class, study hard, and get an "A" in the class. You can use Google Translate or other machine translation services to get a rough idea of what the German language sources say. You could ask an active editor fluent in German such as Gerda Arendt to assist you. You could hire a professional translator at a very reasonable rate through the internet. Or, you could choose to trust the editors who cited those sources. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:40, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Cheers. Thanks for this. I am well versed with the accessibility issue. I have university access to science journals which most other people do not - I have been accused of using unverifiable material because of this. I take your point that if I got off my backside I could get the articles translated to verify notability - but your pragmatic view of trusting other editors is probably best for the collegiate philosophy of Wikipedia. Thank you very much for the advice. __DrChrissy (talk) 04:55, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

A correction. From WP:NOENG:

Citations to non-English sources are allowed. However, because this is the English-language Wikipedia, English-language sources are preferred over non-English ones, whenever English sources of equal quality and relevance are available. As with sources in English, if a dispute arises involving a citation to a non-English source, editors may request that a quotation of relevant portions of the original source be provided, either in text, in a footnote, or on the article talk page

--Mark Miller (talk) 05:05, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

More of an elaboration rather than a correction, Mark Miller, and thank you. Yes, if a variety of high quality sources are available in English and in other languages, then English sources are preferred. But if only foreign language sources are available, about a 19th century French parliamentarian for example, then the French language sources are perfectly acceptable. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 08:02, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

And really the wording is purposely vague. When we last debated this issue on the talk page we didn't want to make it sound as if this was a requirement, however it was discussed that such issues come down to the consensus of editors. I can still use an all Hawaiian source, especially on Hawaiian history where such sources are appropriate, but using an all Hawaiian source for say...George Washington...probably wont fly.--Mark Miller (talk) 08:38, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Given that the article I have read claims the person is an one of the world’s most respected experts in a branch of science, I would hope there are English sources which indicate notability. I can see from the above comments this issue is a little more complex than I initially thought. I think the best approach is to raise it on the Talk page and request English sources if these are available. Thanks all for your comments.__DrChrissy (talk) 17:33, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Someone is continuously marking my article for deletion. Can someone please moderate this? I have diplomatically done everything correct and feel bullied.

Someone is marking for deletion my article continuiously and I have justified the importance of the article and the reliablity of the reference which is the Government of Canada website. This feels to me like unjustified bullying. Is there someone who can help me here?Chipndalewiki (talk) 00:32, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chipndalewiki welcome to the Teahouse! Sorry to hear you feel bullied. You mean Published Authorised Licensed Producers under the Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations Canada I guess? Unfortunately some topics aren't appropriate for the Wikipedia encyclopedia. Encyclopedias include subjects/things that are proven to be important or widely known (what we call 'notable'). If you know of any news sources of independent reliable publications that talk about the Published Authorised Licensed Producers, proving it is important, then you have a few days to add the sources to the article. Otherwise I fear Wikipedia is the wrong place for this particular topic. All the best! Sionk (talk) 00:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi Chipndalewiki. One of Wikipedia's core policies is that it is not a directory or the yellow pages. As your article stands it is just a directory list. Articles have to be written as in an encyclopedia.--Charles (talk) 09:35, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Hi. I have made some edits to the article:

• I have removed the phone numbers. As Charles states, Wikipedia is not a directory. [7]
• I have removed "reliable source" from the text. This is clearly part of the debate as to the subject's notability. This should be kept to the talk pages, rather than discussed on the article. [8].
• I have removed POV text about this being "of great significance to Canadians" [9]
• I have made all the items on the list into wikilinks. [10]

No articles for any of these entities currently exist. It's questionable whether a list which doesn't point to any existing articles has any real purpose. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 11:36, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

How do you expand stubs?

How do you expand Stub-class articles? I'd like to know if there are some useful tips on how to expand articles or if there's a guideline explaining how to do it. Thanks!Gg53000 (talk) 22:50, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

@Gg53000: Hey Gg53000. First, expanding a stub is no different than simply (and boldly) writing from scratch a substantive article, it's just that you already have a placeholder for the content, hopefully with some small part of the heavy lifting, like an infobox, reference formatting and the like, already in place. What I'm getting at is that "stub" is just a designation for an article that has been started but is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a topic. You might or might not be thinking "duh", but I have many times seen questions where it is obvious a person thinks a stub is some special type of page beyond this, so I wanted to cover that possibility. With that being said, I would start with taking a run through the Wikipedia:Tutorial which covers the basics of editing and formatting in an organized manner (unless that's too basic for you), and once done there, I'd head over to Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also take a glance at Wikipedia:The perfect article.

Keep in mind that the wellspring of all good content is citation to reliable sources that verify the information one adds; that you should write from a neutral point of view; and that there should be no original research involved in what you write. Finally, though I have cited here a lot of policies, guidelines and help pages, I think that for some people the very best way to see how to write a great article in a specific area, is to look at great articles that have already been written in that area. So, you might head over to Wikipedia:Featured articles, and study a few in the same subject area, if possible, to see what we consider our best content. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 23:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Gg53000. My friend Fuhghettaboutit has given you some excellent advice. Let me state it in very simple terms: Study the topic of the stub article. Significantly expand and reference the article, in accordance with policies and guidelines. Remove the stub tag. Pat yourself on the back, and move on to the next stub. Thank you for improving the encyclopedia! Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:48, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Country name with country flag by the side

Is there a template for country name with country flag by the side? I saw it on a french Wikipedia page, used the template from the french and was redflagged! I wonder if we have it in English Wikipedia. Emekadavid (talk) 21:01, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi, welcome to the Teahouse! Is {{flag}} what you are looking for? --Anon126 (talk - contribs) 21:07, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

or {{flagicon}}, or {{flagcountry}}, or others at Category:Flag template system. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:13, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

Closed. What I was looking for. Emekadavid (talk) 21:16, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

But please note that the English Wikipedia does not use these flags as often as Wikipedias in some other languages. For example, MOS:ICON#Avoid_flag_icons_in_infoboxes states "Generally, flag icons should not be used in infoboxes, even when there is a "country", "nationality" or equivalent field" - Arjayay (talk) 13:42, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Basic Requirements for Startups company history page

I need minimal requirement for small companies. which have less info . I tried two times in creating article. Failed! so please help me in this. Ttthangasenthilraja (talk) 13:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

The specific guidelines are Wikipedia:NCORP. I see you have created a new article Today Job Post.com. This article does not show any evidence that the company has been the subject of significant coverage in reliable, independent secondary sources as WP:NCORP requests. The article is very likely to be deleted because of this. If you wish to work on the draft without threat of deletion, please copy and paste the code of the article into a page in your userspace or as a new draft in WP:Articles for creation. --LukeSurl ^{t c} 14:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

(edit conflict) All articles require significant coverage, in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. Looking at Today Job Post.com your only references are to the company's web-site - which is not independent, and the companies blog, which is neither reliable or independent. Until you have received significant coverage, not just a mention in passing, in reliable sources such as The Times of India and The Hindu your article will continue to be deleted. What can you do? wait until you have grown into an important company. Arjayay (talk) 14:18, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I note the article has now been deleted. - Arjayay (talk) 20:03, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

You can make it into a draft if you like, and if you do you can take a look at Wikipedia:So you made a userspace draft, but if you give up, you can delete it or donate it to Wikiproject abandoned drafts.--Yutah Andrei Marzan Ogawa 08:41, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

a new article dilemma

Just edited my article on Alex Martinez the graffiti artist. I'd like to upload some images of his murals. I snapped them myself. How is that done please?

Here's the link if allowed; Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alex Martinez, Graffiti Artist

Thanks

Graffitinucular (talk) 08:39, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. Before worrying about adding images you need to address the feedback you received when you submitted the draft for review. You deleted that feedback in your subsequent edit, but I have added it back in as it stays there to help you and subsequent reviewers; the feedback will be removed if and when the draft is approved. The law regarding copyright in photographs of works of art can be complicated, so I will leave someone else to answer that. Note also that I changed the URL in your question to a wikilink. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:52, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

I will take a crack at the copyright issue, Graffitinucular. My understanding is that this artist has mostly been active in the United States and Greece, but your draft also mentions a work in the United Kingdom. Copyright laws vary a bit from country to country. If the works you've photographed are in the United States, then all paintings published or displayed in public after 1923 are copyrighted. You can't upload a photo of a copyrighted work to Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license. However, if the work has been the subject of critical commentary by reliable sources, you may be able to upload a photo to English Wikipedia under Non-free content criteria for use only in one main space article. This is a very tricky area, so I recommend to you as David Biddulph has recommended above that you concentrate first on improving the prose and the referencing of the article, and then deal with images later. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 07:31, 22 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok, my prose needs improvement and I have to get the code right. For what it's worth, I do appreciate that it's not so easy to create an article here. I may have started off as riff-raff but now I know better... A question about Citations. What if there's no online link to articles published in newspapers and magazines? The best example is Graphotism Magazine, the Graffiti Bible since 1991, it went under almost 2 years ago. Would it suffice to simply cite the article's date info? There is a scan of the book review they did on the artist I'm trying to list and it lives here; http://publishing.yudu.com/Freedom/Abu1b/ArtistPortfolioAlexa/resources/40.htm is this sort of link acceptable on Wiki?

Then there are magazine articles such as Penthouse (Greek Version), which has no online link but is also scanned at this page; http://publishing.yudu.com/Freedom/Abu1b/ArtistPortfolioAlexa/resources/36.htm Any wisdom passed my way is greatly appreciated.

Graffitinucular (talk) 09:50, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

Hello, Graffitinucular. Providing an online link is encouraged if there is one, but it is absolutely not required, as long as the resource is in principle available to anyone (eg through a public library). Linking to a scanned version is fine as long as you have reason to believe that the scan and its posting are authorised by the copyright holder. Never link to a site which appears to be a copyright violation - and if you're not sure, don't --ColinFine (talk) 14:52, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Great news Colin, Cheers

I've been frantically editing. Care to give me an opinion on where I'm going wrong? I'm sure there are several errors I haven't noticed.

By the by, what are those numbers next to the articles in contributions? Mine have been all over the place.

Graffitinucular (talk) 15:03, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Presumably the artist's creations are copyrighted (they are unless he's said otherwise). I'm not sure if it's OK to take pictures of them. The numbers in the contributions refer to the change in the number of bytes. Adding content makes the numbers show up green, removing it makes them show up in red. Bold numbers refer to changes of over 500 bytes. --Jakob (talk) 15:10, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Graffitinucular. You're writing Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Alex Martinez, Graffiti Artist as an event article rather than a biography. The current article structure is wrong so you won't get to where you need to be. A biography basically has an early life section (birth through college) followed by career section (usually life after college). The information is presented chronologically. For an artist, you can include a third section that discusses his work. A fourth section can be a list of selected works. That's basically it. Also, switch your citation templates to Template:Citation. Websites are not favored sources and using cite web does not help move people to agree with what you wrote. Regarding copyright, you pushing the camera button to take a photo of a copyrighted painting creates a derivative work (the photo) of the copyright work (Martinez's painting in the photo). The photos would need to meet WP:NFCC to be used in the article. WP:NFCC is very difficult to understand for new editors. In short, what you want to do here is include in the Wikipedia article a source discussing the painting. Once you write the Wikipedia article, take photos of only those paintings discussed in the Wikipedia article. That will go a long way to showing that the use of the copyrighted photos in the article meet WP:NFCC. If you try to include photos of Martinez's copyright work in the article without discussing them in the article, you will experience challenges to such inclusion. You would be better off avoiding such grief. You have six photos in the article now and most of those will have to go. -- Jreferee (talk) 21:09, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jreferee, Firstly, I'm trying to create this article specifically because Alex's work is being used all over the place without permission or credit or cash. I'm an amateur photographer and took the pictures I uploaded with permission. if Alex has to give it, then we'll have to wait till he returns from the orient next month.

Copies were given to Alex Martinez and he allows them to be posted freely. Check out the latest article posted yesterday in Athens News, the image of Alex high on the ladder is one of mine. http://www.athensvoice.gr/article/%CF%83%CF%84%CE%AE%CE%BB%CE%B5%CF%82-web/skate-graffiti/the-power-graffiti-art

This isn't a commercial enterprise like Getty Images stealing his works and getting away with it, a wiki article is meant to protect Alex's copyright.

If you're able, please help me get this thing done. I never wrote a bio but there's no more biographical stuff to add. He started as a vandal, doesn't want to make an issue of it and now he's reformed and gainfully self employed. Thanks for your msg Graffitinucular (talk) 07:40, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi. Sorry, that's not enough to satisfy Wikipedia's lawyers. We need a either a public statement from him or one mailed to Wikipedia, that either says they are in the public domain (which means that he relinquishes all rights in them) or that he licences them under the CC-BY-SA license or similar, which means that he retains the copyright, but grants an irrevocable licence to anybody to use them for any purpose (including commercial purposes) as long as they attribute them properly. He may be prepared to do that, in which case look at Donating copyright materials for how he should proceed. Now I've reread what you have said, that doesn't look so likely. I'm sorry, but I can't see how Wikipedia can possibly be used to protect anybody's copyright, since the whole philosophy of Wikipedia is to allow free use of information.

On another subject, now you have indicated that you are in contact with him, you may have a conflict of interest, so please read WP:COI to see how best to proceed. --ColinFine (talk) 21:49, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Colin, do you mean that because he approved my taking pictures of his works the times I asked him, this conflict effects me how? Picture deletion? Article deletion?

Graffitinucular (talk) 22:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Ok Colin, I read it and understand. It's only because I know his local work that I recognise others using it. He's not on Wikipedia so I figured why not? The pictures I'll delete myself to save unnecessary grief later.

Cheers Graffitinucular (talk) 22:23, 27 January 2014 (UTC)

Graffitinucular - Hang on! Even if Alex won't (or shouldn't) give you the permission you need to freely use the images in the Wikipedia article, photos still can be used in articles without the copyright holder's permission under WP:NFCC. For NFCC, if you take the photo and then try to find a written source about it, trouble. But, if you find the written source first and then take the photos based on those written sources, you're on a NFCC winning path. I can help you find written sources to support adding some of his work to the article. For example, School Enjoys Writing on the Wall might support adding a photo of the 1993 mural of a trash can and the message "KEEP IT CLEAN" in the Wikipedia article. I don't have time to find more sources at the moment. However, I'd be happy to locate source material and provide you with a list of Martinez's work discussed in the sources. Then all you need to do is go out and get some snappies of them (if you don't already have them) and we can figure out how to best add the photos to the draft article while meeting WP:NFCC. I'm excited that I can get someone to take photos of something I help write, so I'm looking forward to working with you on this. Please feel free to post on my talk page User talk:Jreferee. -- Jreferee (talk) 15:58, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

Hi Jreferee. Great idea but much of Martinez's work has been disappeared. I think I'll let it fly without images. He has plenty in the links if anyone is really interested. Thanks Graffitinucular (talk) 16:32, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

OK. Happy editing. -- Jreferee (talk) 13:45, 31 January 2014 (UTC)

I was wondering the same thing... King sorks (talk) 00:31, 29 January 2014 (UTC)

A big big Thank You to everyone. I'm satisfied with the final editing today, fingers crossed. Cheers Graffitinucular (talk) 13:07, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

How do I contact user "DynamoDegsy"?

Hi, The user has submitted quite lengthly articles about family members, I am quite humbled as there has obviously been a lot of work put into the research and I thought I might be able to help them by clarifying dates for them and giving them any other information. I would also like to thank them as their work has ensured my grandfather snd great-grandfather will be remembered.

Thankyou. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleandlively (talk • contribs) 17:43, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse. To contact a user, go to their user talk page, in this case User talk:DynamoDegsy. --David Biddulph (talk) 17:54, 1 February 2014 (UTC)

Finding a WikiProject

I have seen articles in the news lately about how Wikipedia needs more women editors and more articles about women.

I became an editor recently so that I could help with this, but I can't find an organized WikiProject dealing with this.

Is there a way to search for a WikiProject without knowing exactly what it's called?

Eveross1 (talk) 23:44, 3 February 2014 (UTC)

Navigating wikiprojects is not easy. There are a couple of wikiprojects in these areas, including Wikipedia:WikiProject_Countering_systemic_bias, Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBT studies, Wikipedia:WikiProject Feminism, Wikipedia:WikiProject Editor Retention, Wikipedia:WikiProject Women artists and Wikipedia:WikiProject Women scientists. I'll let each of them describe themsleves. Alternatively, find a page you wish you'd written and look on the talk page to see which wikiprojects it's in. Hope this helps. Stuartyeates (talk) 00:05, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Wanted to write article on my college in India

Hello Team,

I want to write an article about my college in India named as Kelvin Institute of Technology. I read some guidelines about usernames and type of article we can write. Kindly guide me is it fine if I write my article on college and want to publish it with title as Kelvin Institute of Technology.

For your reference, here is the authentic official website of the college www.kelvininstitute.edu.in

Thanks in advance for helping

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