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Sudhan

I would like to know whey you deleted the whole article, rather than having questions about indibidual issues, if you have issues why not just discuss the same on the talk page prior to doing your edits

Trueblood (talk) 04:32, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Trueblood786:, you'll notice that it was not just me who had done that thing. @Smsarmad: also removed a lot of the content. I think that you need to revisit WP:V, WP:RS and WP:BURDEN. Perhaps also WP:COI, since your contribution history and repeated recreation of poor material there suggests that you may have a conflict. It is your responsibility to ensure that the content is compliant with our policies, not mine or that of Smsarmad. - Sitush (talk) 12:16, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I checked and found that other editor only took out a couple of lines, you took out the whole article, I will appreciate if you would tell me what exactly you think is a proper source as you dont agree on any of the sources that were listed by many editors. So I would request that in order to make this article better, that we work on this togeather and make it better, rather than getting rid of the whole thing.

For example what is wrong with a picture of a sudhan, or that they are all over the world, I think many sudhans worked on this article and I would defer to them, I was in Kashmir and that is where I learned a lot about Sudhans. So I would like to request your assistance in getting this better, rather than destroying it.

Looking forward to your reply.

Trueblood (talk) 01:45, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Can you take this to the article talk page, please. More people with an interest in the subject matter are likely to see it there. However, for what it is worth, the image was not originally removed by me. - Sitush (talk) 01:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Articles for creation March 2014 Backlog Elimination Drive

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Dulla Bhatti

Thank you for your recent sources and edits, "near to Lahore" needs to come off too, does not make sense. Does not define proximity and i do not think it makes a good English sentence but i leave that to you since i do not think i am an expert on English language. Sajjad Altaf (talk) 02:59, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How far is Pindi Bhattian from Lahore? When it comes to towns and villages, it often helps readers to have a commonly-recognised place as a marker. Is there a major city that is closer? - Sitush (talk) 03:01, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Forget that - I've worked it out. Page 34 of Gaur says 12 kos. According to Kos (unit) that equates to 24 miles (39 km). - Sitush (talk) 03:07, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WT INB RFC

Please post your opinion at this WT:INB RFC: Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#RFC:_Inviting_Quiddity_.28WMF.29_or_Okeyes_.28WMF.29_to_implement_Flow_at_WikiProject_India_Noticeboard Tito☸Dutta 12:59, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Edit war with user Kakadesi

Your recent editing history at Pratibha Patil and Kapil Sibal shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. --KakaDesi 13:17, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

@Kakadesi:, please file a report at User:Bishonen/Clueless complaints about Sitush noticeboard ;) - Sitush (talk) 13:20, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sudhan

ANI discussion about Trueblood. Dougweller (talk) 21:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I see that the fun is over. Is that my third or fourth haul-up to ANI this week? - Sitush (talk) 00:13, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

March 2014

Hello, I'm User:Premthanjavur. The edits made by me in the Pallava dynasty were sourced reliably. And I referred both Inscriptions and Book references which are accepted as strong references by the historians. Because the stone inscriptions are from the book South Indian Inscriptions vol 12 which was widely recognized for South Indian History. And the book 'Ancient to Medieval: South Indian Society in Transition' is written by Noboru Karashima, who was conferred the Padma Shri award in 2013, one of India's highest civilian award, for his contribution in the field of History. And also Nominated for the Padma Bushan award 2014. So do not Underestimate his contributions. And also do not have an biased view /opinion on editing History related articles. So I conclude that the references provide by me in 'Kadava' Section is most reliable and am also edited the 'Kadava' Section again with same references. For further discussions you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. — Preceding undated comment added 06:32, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your query to me

Dear Sitush:

I just received your email and am having trouble trying to understand what you want me to comment on. Is it the reference that "Abstruce" makes to me saying that: "Kindly note that this very book has been deemed as "unreliable and misleading work" by User:John Hill,. . . ."?

I presume this is in reference to the book: Origins and History of Jats and Other Allied Nomadic Tribes of India: 900 B.C.-1947 A.D |first=B. S. |last=Nijjar |publisher=Atlantic Publishers |year=2008.

If so, this is probably correct - I very likely would have made such a comment about this book - but I would have said it so long ago I cannot remember in what context or even in which article it appeared. I am sorry I cannot be more specific than this.

If you would like some idea of why I might have said that the book was a "misleading and unreliable work" - just have a look at the pages available on Google Books. For example, the reference given here is to: url=http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=xQM9voN21ekC&pg=PA73

Checking this single page I note that there is a generalisation about Jats that sounds rather defamatory or at the very least biased: "The Jats, moreover, are extremely proud and consider themselves not only the owners of the land but of the village itself. Fear and hatred of the Jats is, therefore, justified to a certain extent, and the Jats enjoy and profit from the fear they evoke in others."

If I remember correctly (and please keep in mind it is some years since I read this book), there were numerous such generalisations scattered throughout the work - thus making it an unreliable reference.

I hope this answers your question - if not please write again and clarify exactly what you want.

Best wishes,

Sincerely,

John Hill (talk) 11:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn't an email but rather a query on your talk page. I've responded to you there, as is convention. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 12:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2nd reply

Nijjar may be an "academic historian" and he is entitled to his opinions. But, if his book is to be considered a reputable source of history he should qualify his comments. E.g. he could have said: "Many (instead of "the" = "all") Jats, moreover, are extremely proud and consider themselves not only the owners of the land but of the village itself. Fear and hatred of the Jats is, therefore, justified to a certain extent, and some (rather than "the") Jats enjoy and profit from the fear they evoke in others."

He is running down and tarring all Jats as being the same, and while what he says may be true of some Jats - it is clearly not so for all of them. It is akin to saying: "The Germans are (all) Nazis and terrorise Jews," or "Australians are (all) racists." That is why I believe his book is a biased, unreliable and misleading work, and not worthy of being accepted as a reference in the Wikipedia. Sincerely, John Hill (talk) 13:20, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've no idea why you keep posting your replies here. In any event, you cannot read his mind and therefore you have to accept that what he says is what he means, like it or loathe it. I'm still unsure whether it is a reliable source but your rationales won't hold up. Unless your argument is that he is a fringe/pseudo-historian, in which case we could do with some examples of peers who say this. I'll try to find out how often his works have been cited etc. - Sitush (talk) 15:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Quick chat request

If you are online now and have some time in hand could you attend a quick talk session (at Google Docs, the way we talked last time).

Topic: Talk on a new off wiki but wiki related initiative.
Talk line: Quick demo to you. Asking for suggestions where I am stumped.

You may join here if you are online now or in next one hour. I'll keep on checking the open document. Tito☸Dutta 13:38, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I missed this and I've got to go away again for a bit. - Sitush (talk) 15:12, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, no problem. I am going for dinner for an hour as well. If you give me an appointment that'll be fine, else we may talk later. Tito☸Dutta 15:14, 1 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hill and Fowler

Dear Friend Sitush, I have replied here (as I thought John Hill might also be interested). Sincerely, ← Abstruce 06:32, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article Bhati

Respected Sir Please dont take it otherwise. I really respect you for your wiki contributions. Still, if u permit then may i ask the reason for removal of contents on the article just because of yadava word. where as other caste related words like Jat, Gurjar etc. are present there. One more thing I would like to add what i have seen with my own eyes... The fort of Jaisalmer and all text related to Bhatis, the word Yadava is present there. Indian History too have such mentions everywhere. Sorry,I am not questioning you, just curious to know if there is any specific reason. Actually, I see all the caste related pages and in case of almost every caste i find that Indian Social history is misrepresented at most of the places. Your response in this regard will certainly be a matter of emmense pleasure for me. Regards and wishes Mahensingha (talk) 19:35, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've been trying to read up on the Bhati but it gets very confusing due to ambiguities with Bahti etc. The sources that you added were also confusing. I've little doubt that Jaisalmer was controlled by a family known as Bhati but your sources were vague, as is typical for the name: one of them even referred to the family as Yadav Bhati Rajputs, which makes things even more confusing because Yadavs are a different group again and, IIRC, are not considered to be Rajput. And Yadava is treated as different from Yadav in many sources, so there is yet another problem.

The whole thing is an unfortunate mess &, as you say, it also apparently involves Jats and Gurjars. It is no-one's fault that this is so but quite how we resolve it is beyond me at the moment. It is likely to need some intensive research of the type that for which I've simply not been able to find time. Any suggestions would be welcome but they'd probably be better given on the article talk page. - Sitush (talk) 21:48, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Articles of dubious merit

Hello. I believe you remember a "pre-Afd discussion for the deletion of Tamil American, Tamil Australian, Kannada American & Bengali American" wiki pages. Since there wasn't any response, shall i raise this issue in the WT:INB noticeboard or would it better if I report them for deletion right away? I'm hereby summarizing the reasons for the proposed deletion, in case you don't remember.
Neither of these countries (United States & Australia) have used these terminologies for "census, immigration & other govt" purposes nor have their media used them in their articles & reports. These people have always been called/listed/reported as "Indian American/Australian" or "Sri Lankan American/Australian" based on their country of origin. The sources cited in these articles "have not mentioned them as official terms", but they simply contain some statistical data regarding the number of tamil speakers. I'm sure this factor doesn't qualify for the creation of these articles in wikipedia. Hari7478 (talk) 20:38, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be inclined to take them to AfD but there is no harm in sounding INB out first. Government classifications (census etc) don't really count for much either for or against: the key is whether or not there is discussion about these various groups in reliable sources. There probably are community websites (like the APNA organisation) but those also do not really count. - Sitush (talk) 21:40, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Maram nawaz

There is a dispute concerning sourced material, SMS editor keeps on reverting, can u look into this

Adnan1216 (talk) 22:53, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I think you are referring to Maryam Nawaz and Smsarmad (talk · contribs). It looks like you have taken it to WP:DRN but, for whatever my opinion is worth, the disputed sources look to be very poor. Smsarmad has a lot of experience and a quick look at this instance suggests to me that the experience is showing. That's not a criticism of you: identifying reliable sources can be tricky sometimes. If I were you, I would have taken the issue to WP:RSN rather than WP:DRN but, either way, I'd be surprised if you get your way based on those sources. - Sitush (talk) 00:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Use of social sites in Political parties articles

Hi Sitush,

I have few doubts about addition of social sites in indian political parties articles. Hope they can be clarified.

I have seen that indian political parties have added their official facebook, twitter, youtube and blogs in the external link section. Is this not the case of publicity and violation of Wikipedia:NPOV. Should the official sites be enough for the information.

Same is the case of articles of Indian politicians added their official facebook, twitter, youtube and blogs in the external link section.

Last doubt if the person is not a politician, but a social activist, environmentalist then still is it applicable to add social sites listed above mainly in the case if they do not have their official sites.

Please help me to clarify in detail.

Thanks for your co-operation.

Work2win (talk) 05:39, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not Sitush but I know that more than one official link is frowned upon. See WP:ELMINOFFICIAL, which encourages the maximum reader benefit from the minimum number of external links. It is especially relevant to see that "Wikipedia does not exist to facilitate corporate 'communication strategies' or other forms of marketing." The promotion of the political party is not Wikipedia's concern. Binksternet (talk) 05:49, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm with Binksternet on this one. If the party/politician has an official website then that will give their Facebook/Twitter etc details anyway, so there is no need for all the other promotional links. - Sitush (talk) 12:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

BTW, determining what is or is not an official web channel can be tricky, especially when it comes to individuals who are activists. It often pays to err on the side of caution and to study the blog etc carefully to get an understanding of whether it is first-person material etc. - Sitush (talk) 12:25, 3 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Khatri

As per WP:QUOTE , quotes are advisable to make things less controversial. And this Khatri article is already full of controversies so please do not remove the quotes that i have taken from the specified references. I am reverting the article to its earlier form. Thanks. Kirtimaansyal (talk) 06:24, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

You have misunderstood it. Please read WP:COPYRIGHT and note that your edits was basically an assembly of sentences from the various sources. You cannot do that. - Sitush (talk) 06:30, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have not copied the entire paragraph. I have copied 1-3 lines from various references so as to make it less controversial which is acceptable as per WP:QUOTE. I agree to your suggestions about copyright, i will add the source material under quote marks so as to make it acceptable and follow the other advised exercise mentioned at WP:QUOTE. For now I am not reverting the changes, but will put things as per WP:LOP soon. Kirtimaansyal (talk) 06:37, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have written the whole origin and varna status again. I agree to your copyright infringement point and i have taken care of it. Please do not undo the changes as i have invested my whole day for finding the right excerpts from books and wrote it in meaningful manner. Kirtimaansyal (talk) 17:34, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

WT:INB

Hello, Sitush. You have new messages at Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Shady.2FCoat-rack_articles_.28of_dubious_merit.29_that_i_intend_to_nominate_for_deletion.
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Sahara India Pariwar

The next revert on the article and I'll add protection. However, I don't know what the "correct" version should be. Bgwhite (talk) 18:59, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have no idea either. I'd be inclined just to protect it in what ever state it happens to be, as per that policy. Unless there is a BLP or copyright violation, it shouldn't matter: they can fight it out on the talk page or at some appropriate noticeboard. - Sitush (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Page is now protected. Autoconfirmed for one month. I'm telling everybody that you did it so you can be the one taken to ANI. You are always there, so you must love that place. :) Bgwhite (talk) 06:42, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I can remember the first time that I was hauled before the beaks, and it was nothing to do with South Asia. I was terrified then but now I'm just resigned: one day, sooner or later, I'm going to suffer there. The subsequent cheers from Orkut groups etc will doubtless resonate. - Sitush (talk) 12:40, 5 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please tell 'em to take it straight to the dedicated Sitush noticeboard, Bgwhite. Convenient shortcut: WP:AN/S. Bishonen | talk 12:47, 5 March 2014 (UTC).[reply]

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Tito☸Dutta 12:05, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A beer for you!

Thanks for teaching User:Kakadesi why Wikipedia exist. 25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ^☣ 19:28, 6 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not Vandalise the Singhahi Page

Your reverts to this page amount to vandalism. All sources are cited, but because you do not like the truth you are trying to distort history. This is being dishonest and anyone can forensically examine your edits and see that what you are doing. By the way your after examination your user page. I am pretty sure it is also a a fraud, you have given yourself all those accolades using false accounts, created bu yourself. You are misusing wikipedia and may be put on a special watch list — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rakeshvasishth (talk • contribs) 14:07, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Bishonen:, @Drmies: This is a new one on me, being accused of fraudulently creating positive stuff on this talk page. Given the number of criticisms here, d'ya think I'm doing well as a good hand/bad hand type? Were you aware that I also operate Jimbo's account? - Sitush (talk) 14:41, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The accusation is totally false. I'm Sitush's lover and I've been creating the accounts to give my sultry Sitush all this praise. I've always loved my dear Sitush and always will. Stay away Bishonen, you are getting to close to him. I'm his bit.... Drmies (talk) 19:25, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Bgwhite: Good try, although it might raise the eyebrows of She Who Must Be Obeyed in Auburn. And my mother. The giveaway was the "I'm his bit" bit ... that's not the sort of slang with which @Drmies: will be familiar, being an academic of a lower-middle class upbringing. It's a commonplace among we plebs, of course. ;)

Sitush, you've probably already gotten the notification, but for the benefit of anybody else reading here, I've started a discussion section, Talk:Singahi Bhiraura#Expanded history section?, to get discussion about whether to add the full text added by Rakeshvasishth and the IP accounts, or some portion of that text, to the article. —C.Fred (talk) 14:28, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism by User Sitush

You have removed large chunks of materiel from the Singahi article on spurious grounds. As an Independent Wikepedia investigator I have historically examined several of your edits and there seems a certian lack of integrity to your character. I use harsh words here, take for instance (and one can not hide anything in wikipedia The Singhai article you said you did not believe the cited sources and removed large parts of the article. Well the article was cited with proper academic rigor, and its up to you now to go into the sources. I have done so and verified the sources of this article. Now the question remains why you chose to edit this article and what did you not like about it. I suspect and I need to built a case via an investigation on all your Wikipedia edits, is that you are following a political agenda and would like to see a distortion of Indian History. The sang Parivar or RSS also follows this agenda and several users and administrators have been banned from Wikipedia after their peers investigated. The Guardians of the articles in Wikipedia are the users themselves along with the transparency of all edits which undergo a peer review. I am sorry Sitush you have failed this peer review. Moreover I suspect the accolades and the praise on your user page is similariry manufactured by yourself and your friends

Rakeshvasishth (talk) 14:43, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) That's a serious case of not assuming WP:GOODFAITH. Calling good faith edits "vandalism" is not appreciated around here... Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 16:18, 7 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) I think I'm going to call myself a Independent Wikipedia investigator, I like that title...although Guardians of the articles is also pretty sweet. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 02:38, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Liz. Thank you for the laugh. Whenever I see your name, I will think Guardian of the articles Bgwhite (talk) 09:00, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The original post has been added to the Clueless Complaint Generator. Bishonen | talk 13:45, 9 March 2014 (UTC).[reply]

Care to explain

Care to explain why you reverted my edits at Noor Pur Baghan and why you were mentioning WP:SPI on the talk page? Do you think only a sympathizer of a page can make improvement to a page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Baghi (talk • contribs) 03:17, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Now this is when you give them the rope and they start swinging on it. -- SMS ^Talk 08:24, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Smsarmad What is that suppose to mean? Can we talk about what I asked instead of talking nonsense? And how are you both related anyway? — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ Baghi (talk • contribs) 13:40, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:ROPE. The connection between myself and Smsarmad extends no further than the human genome and a common interest in Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 13:50, 8 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

	The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
	"As a newly-self-anointed Independent Wikepedia Investigator and Guardian of the Articles, I have historically examined just one of your edits and there seems to be too much integrity to your character." Sorry but I couldn't resist paraphrasing. Thank you for your diligent work, especially at Singahi Bhiraura. Green Giant supports NonFreeWiki (talk) 12:50, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Osmania University

The edit of Tharunu to the page of Osmania University was not productive. Many of my good edits were revered because of his edit. The recent Seemandhra-Telangana conflict may also do damage to AP- related articles on this website. Can you keep an eye on the page of OU? By the way, I am happy to see you making so many productive edits. "I" in my username means India. I'm currently in a vacation - when I will return to my home town, I will look after the OU page myself. Many thanks. :) UI1990 (talk) 13:25, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Question

I preferred the little doggie over the grenade I recall you mentioning you had JSTOR access, as RP has not been around for a while I was hoping you could check to see if you can nab a few papers for me? I am after The Secret Young-Turk Ittihadist Conference and the Decision for the World War I Genocide of the Armenians Holocaust Genocide Studies (1993) 7 (2): 173-201. doi: 10.1093/hgs/7.2.173 And maybe a few more if you do have access, or any of your TPS? Darkness Shines (talk) 16:41, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've got access, yes, but Holocaust and Genocide Studies is not available at JSTOR. Seems to be Oxford Journals. I've had stuff from that place via WP:RX in the past but I can't recall who provided it.

Let me know what the others are. - Sitush (talk) 16:49, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Bugger, all the ones I have seen so far are in Holocaust and Genocide Studies, I just did a search on JSTOR and would like this one though, An Escape from Reason: Genocide and the International Commission of Inquiry on Darfur Nsongurua J. Udombana The International Lawyer Vol. 40, No. 1 (SPRING 2006), pp. 41-66 Darkness Shines (talk) 16:58, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) DS, I have Dadrian, Vahakn N., The Secret Young-Turk Ittihadist Conference and the Decision for the World War I Genocide of the Armenians. 7 Holocaust & Genocide Stud. 173 (1993). What are you willing to give me in exchange for it?

Salvio

^{Let's talk about it!} 17:10, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

A bottle of the best house wine rome has to offer? Darkness Shines (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Affare fatto! Just send me an e-mail and I'll forward you the pdf. P.S. Howdy Sitush, how are things?

Salvio

^{Let's talk about it!} 17:19, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Mailed ya, is there really a wine calle "fatto"? Sounds real good, do they deep fry it before serving

Darkness Shines (talk) 17:27, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for stepping in, @Salvio giuliano:. I've been too busy admiring the Complaint Generator that Bishonen has set up over at Talk:AN/S.

@Darkness Shines:, I don't seem to have access to the other one at JSTOR - my stuff comes through the University of Cambridge alumni scheme and I'm a bit pissed that this journal is definitely on JSTOR but not available to me. I mean, Cambridge produces the best ~~lizards~~ lawyers in the world (Salvio excepted, of course), so you'd think they'd include this thing. I shall be having words with the appropriate authorities. - Sitush (talk) 18:06, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No fatto wine for me, which probably is Rome's equivalent of your Château Thames Embankment; DS, you have volunteered to offer me a bottle of barolo...

Sitush, for legal articles, I usually use HeinOnline, which has an impressive amount of material – and whose subscription is paid for by my university... Oh, and that noticeboards is awesome: I've been playing with the complaint generator for a bit now... $Salvio$ ^{Let's talk about it!} 18:47, 9 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

ANI?

Time for ANI to block this bunch of meatpuppets? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 15:03, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I was hoping that C.Fred or some other admin would just block them but seems to be a lot of rope being given. The consensus (as in argument supported by policy, rather than meanderings about what "real" researcher do) is clearly in favour of not including the info. It could be taken to WP:DRN if they really wanted but they'd get blown out of the water there also. I'm pretty sure this is socking, not meating: repeated copy/pastes, style of section heads, repeated sectioning, problems with refactoring the sigs of others, and a 39.* IP that is obviously the last-registered of the users. The problem is, checkuser won't link accounts to IPs, so the behavioural evidence will need to be great rather than just good.

ANI may not be the best place to go because some will say that it is fundamentally a content dispute. But if someone thinks that a case can be made there then I'll have no objection. - Sitush (talk) 15:10, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The IPs, including the one that added a comment here immediately after Padmantrivedi, all geolocate to BT in London. Somewhere, Lalitshastri has said that they are a member of the British Library, which is also in London. Add that to the behavioural stuff and I think there may be enough to justify a checkuser on the Lalishastri/Padmantrivedi accounts. I need to find the diff for the British Library membership comment. - Sitush (talk) 15:23, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

@Joshua Jonathan: I've reported it at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Lalitshastri. - Sitush (talk) 16:01, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

At my userpage: "We also publish audio CDs from the collections held by the British Library" diff. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 18:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Re: Aam Aadmi Party electioneering

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Could you create User:Sitush/Paid editing in Indian articles. I have been reporting here and there for a long time. It'll be excellent if we can collect all issues at a place. Tito☸Dutta 00:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've never seen any paid editing on India articles. Or, at least, none that I've identified as such. - Sitush (talk) 01:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Habung Payeng, Jiyalal Ram Jaiswar

Pulkit18 indore (talk) 00:42, 12 March 2014 (UTC) There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.[reply]

Noted. Replied there. Going for some zzzz's. - Sitush (talk) 01:02, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

Hey how's it going Sorry, I mean t to write the reason why ... however my mac blocks the popup when I do that using twinkle. The reason I went had to undo that was due to numerous reverts without any credible source or reason that he did, when I wish he would just go to Talk:Allahabad Address instead of Wikipedia:Disruptive editing. In fact, although not obligated, it would be greatly appreciated that if you have any knowledge of the Road to Partition of India, to go to that page and give your point of view on the subject matter. Thanks. Ps. If you are online, please do leave a message on my wall or mention me in the article and I will respond lilpiglet 05:59, 12 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilpiglet (talk • contribs)

Don't worry about the edit summary - it happens. I have just replied at the talk page but I'll do some more digging. We do carry articles about hoaxes but not hoax articles, if you see what I mean. - Sitush (talk) 06:01, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much User: Sitush ... pardon me for not writing your name previously ... I guess i have lilbutterfingers today or just supper tired with 4 hours of sleep and should be writing a paper rather than on here ;) lilpiglet 06:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilpiglet (talk • contribs) [reply]

Er, no sleep for me. You'll see in a section just above that I tried. Dreadful tinnitus at the moment but I'm about to try again. Write that paper: WP will still be here when you're done. - Sitush (talk) 06:07, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

How come no sleep for you. and Touche about WP will be right here :) lilpiglet 06:53, 12 March 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilpiglet (talk • contribs)

Please give reason to remove 'Ethnology' section from 'Aguri' caste.

Hi, Can you please give me the reason why 'Ethnology' section is removed from 'Aguri' or 'Ugra Khatriya' article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jecob8888 (talk • contribs) 08:41, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. The problem was that the information was unsourced and, from my experience, unlikely ever to be sourced. Many caste articles mention surnames and information from the British censuses of the 1800s but the names are almost always original research and trivial, while the censuses are simply not reliable sources. Similarly, even modern demographic information - population, places of residence etc - tend to be impossible to verify in a manner that is acceptable to Wikipedia, principally because there were no caste censuses from the Raj period until 2011 ... and even the 2011 data is incomplete. Hope this helps. - Sitush (talk) 11:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sajjad Altaf , etc

I've been pretty busy at work so I haven't had time to dig to deep into the issue (other than notice the same author creating a lot of NN articles and some COI). What's your summary of the situation, and do you think any further action is warranted at this time? OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 15:30, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

They are fairly new and some of the issues are probably little more than a case of running before they can walk. That said, they do not seem to be particularly receptive when explanation are given and thus repeat the error of their ways. They're very interested in Pakistan-related material, which is fine, but I'm a bit concerned that they might have got a bit of a chip on their shoulder relating to perceived poor coverage of that country and that this shows in the form of some tendentious IDHT behaviour and ownership. Right now, they're a real nuisance but the question is how much rope do they get? @Smsarmad: and @JNW: are two who may have thoughts regarding this: both have had quite a lot of involvement with Sajjad. - Sitush (talk) 16:08, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

This removal from their takl page is curious. I think that Smsarmad had a point there but it would seem that Sajjad objects in some way. - Sitush (talk) 18:56, 12 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I find this user too confrontational with IDHT (or IDONTWANTTOHEARTHAT) attitude, who is not going to correct their behavior no matter how many times or how much politely you advise them. Some examples:

He thinks that every issue wherever Sitush (and probably me also) is involved is because of some comment he made at an AfD. And continues to think like this, ignoring the problems identified with their editing.
Before the Requested Move discussion of Iqbal Azeem, he was told by at least three editors that he is wrong, but he didn't agree. And after the RM where five more editors opined against his opinion, he thinks that all these editors are part of some group called by Sitush to win something
His understanding of Wikipedia's policies is very much clear by his own comment (though he offered an explanation but by his comments at AfDs it remains adamant)

Also he is very quick with the "undo" button. And lastly involvement of new editors (one of whom claims himself that he was called here) wherever he enters in a content dispute, doesn't show that he is going to correct himself. Not sure what action might be good at this stage, now that a SPI is also pending, but at the least he needs to be strictly warned. -- SMS ^Talk 21:26, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted Indraprastha

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at Indraprastha. If you continue triggering the edit filter, you may be blocked from editing.

ANI Notification

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. WOWॐIndian ^Talk 19:50, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Y'know....

It's funny; last night I had a dream that you and several others whom I vaguely feel should be admins (TransporterMan, Go Phightins! are the ones I remember) decided to all run at RfA at once. The rest of the dream was taken up by a bunch of editors (e.g. Drmies, Bishonen) cracking jokes while building sandbag floodwalls (physically building them, somehow; dreams are weird) to handle the incoming surge of SPAs on their way to oppose your RfA. It was a strange dream. (no comment on why I was dreaming about Wikipedia. I don't control my subconscious, man.) Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:00, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I guess that's a compliment .... or is creepy :-) Go Phightins! 20:30, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

*shrugs* It is what it is. Writ Keeper ⚇♔ 20:32, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

SPAs would definitely be a problem! As for dreams, well, I'm one of those weird people who very rarely experiences them. I've no idea whether WP sometimes features in those of many contributors but it wouldn't surprise me if it did. I wonder whether it affects I dream of horses (talk · contribs)? - Sitush (talk) 21:10, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if I ever dreamt about Wikipedia (people dream whether or not they remember them...), but I think my screen name has assisted me in literally dreaming about horses. --I dream of horses If you reply here, please leave me a {{Talkback}} message on my talk page. @ 23:41, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback

Hello, Sitush. You have new messages at Talk:Indraprastha#Location.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

WOWॐIndian ^Talk 20:43, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, thanks. I've replied there and the article is on my watchlist, so there is no need for you to let me know here also in future. Don't fret about the ANI report: it was the wrong thing to do but you've learned that now. As a general rule, we discuss first and only report later if things are realy bad. Usually, ANI is not the place to report something. For example, edit warring should normally go to WP:AN3 and queries about the neutrality of something should go to WP:NPOVN. The WP:DR page also has some useful guidance. - Sitush (talk) 21:04, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia is a place where I learn new things every day. Gn WOWॐIndian ^Talk 21:08, 13 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sridhar Babu's Page

You seem to have a penchant to poke into other pages and edit , obvious from so many complaints on your page. Dont vandalize pages about which you have little or no clue even after reading the references. You want to get into edit wars rather than ensuring that articles comply with Wikipedia's Usage Terms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oldruff (talk • contribs) 06:32, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I've warned this user for personal attacks ("vandalism"). Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 07:25, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Raju

hi Sitush, can i know the reason for you to delete the edits i have done.--Rajachinababu (talk) 05:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC) RAJU--Rajachinababu (talk) 05:30, 14 March 2014 (UTC) 1)if you know most of the kshatriyas in Andhra belong to Suryavamsha.. an aryan clan ,which doesnt exists in the southern part in those days, so, that was the reason why i,have made that edit. 2) my second edit with reference to ("Sri Rajah Vatsavi Venkata Surya Narayana Jagapathi Raj Bahadur") is the last king to undergo Pattabishakam(coronation) among Kshatriyas in our state, to which you are objecting it as false,,and he handed everthing for the people with out forming any societies to safeguard his property ( which was a common procedure in those days)[reply]

i may be wrong, if so please enlighten me with a reason for your deletions

@Rajachinababu: Hi, I think you must be referring to this removal by me at Raju. I was not saying that you were wrong but rather that the information about migration from North India is not in the reliable source that is shown. You also made other changes in that contribution that simply do not seem to fit with the sources at all. Almost all statements made in Wikipedia articles need to be verifiable - you cannot just say what you know because that is original research.

For example, I am aware of claims that the concept of the four varnas comes from Vedic Brahmanism and also that that concept was developed in North India before spreading elsewhere in the country as some Brahmins were displaced by invading peoples such as the Mughals. However, the author of the cited source doesn't seem to explain why they believe there are no kshatriya in Andhra. Please note that the source is referring to the modern day, not some historic time before they finally turned up there (check it here). We can't say something that the source doesn't say. - Sitush (talk) 08:34, 14 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]