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Is the Space Goofs article breaking the MOS:GENDERID rule?

It's about time I let you know about this. So Candy (a character from the show) is referred to with male pronouns on Wikipedia. I watched a gameplay video of the video game Stupid invaders (which is based on the show), and in the game Candy mentions that they are transgender and wants to get sex reassignment surgery. In France male pronouns are gender neutral, and since the show was made in France I didn't question it, but the English dub still refers to Candy an effeminate male. So is this breaking a "law" on Wikipedia or am I just TOO obsessed with the topic in question? Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk) 16:24, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Atlantic Ranter 9705! Sorry for the delay getting back to you here! Life's been busy for me and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my messages and Wikipedia emails :-). It sounds like there are a few issues here (assuming the information is accurate and true): One issue is that the article is describing the character with the assumption that the reader is not from Latin America by using the word "he" by default. This also becomes apparent when the description states that the character "gets in touch with his feminine side by sometimes disguising himself as a woman" - in the Latin American version of the show, it may be viewed that the female character "gets in touch with her masculine side...". Another (possibly bigger and more concerning) issue is that none of this information (the dressing as the other gender, the information stating that the Latin American version of the show portrays the character as a female, or the information that you described in your message here) is referenced by any sources at all... in fact, I was tempted to resolve these issues by removing all of that content (I added "citation needed" notices instead, though I'm questioning whether or not that was the right choice to make). Regardless, I went ahead and edited the description for you and fixed what I felt were issues that needed to be improved. You can view the exact changes I made by clicking here. I think that (minus the addition of references and any additional relevant information) the changes made resolve these problems and that the description is much improved. What do you think? Do you still have concerns? Let me know and I'll be happy to discuss it with you further if you do. Thanks again for the message, I apologize again for the delayed response, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:07, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Also, I read through MOS:GENDERID, and I feel that this guideline isn't intended for this exact situation (where multiple versions of the same cartoon are produced in order to portray the same character as having a different gender depending on the country it's broadcast in). This style guideline appears to be intended for people or characters who are portrayed, represented, identified, or exist in one form (meaning that multiple versions of that person's existence aren't floating around - there is only one Najat Vallaud-Belkacem, Bill Gates, or Daffy Duck). The guideline states that, when there is a question of the person's gender in relevant situations (such as the articles of Chelsea Manning or Caitlyn Jenner for example), the article is to be worded to refer to that person, by default, according to the gender that they most recently announced or stated that they identify themselves as or that they've assigned to themselves. For example: if 100 reliable sources say that someone announced that they identify as a female, but one (or a few) reliable sources covering the person's latest or most recent statement(s) on the subject state that the person identifies as male, we are to word the article using the male gender identity of that person (including the assigned name that they go by). Hopefully my explanation of this guideline helps to clear up any confusion. Let me know if you have any questions and I'll be happy to answer them :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:56, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! [the link to a gameplay video that has the "Transgender info" in the very first cutscene AKA. A source], also my source is a cutscene from a game that's supposed to take place after the events of the show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Atlantic Ranter 9705! I would make sure that the sources you found meet the criteria outlined here. If it doesn't, we really can't use it to assert that the information being added is 100% verifiable, accurate, and true... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:59, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I read the criteria/rule and you can use online videos as a source/references/link at the end of the article, the only thing I'm curious about right now is whether or not Wikipedia writes about fictional medias in a "canon" point of view, or in a "realistic" sort of way? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 22:13, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Good question... I'm not 100% sure what either "point of view" you describe refers to, honestly. The viewpoint that all article content must reflect is a neutral point of view above all else, so keep this policy in mind when asking or making a decision, or when you go to make updates or changes to the article. If you're still not sure, you might find the answer to your question by asking at the Wikipedia helpdesk. Best - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:15, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Example; the Wikipedia page for the movie Heavy Traffic, it uses the word “transvestite” to describe one of the characters. Another example; Any page on Wikipedia that refers to a female fictional characters as a Nimphomaniac. Those terms could be seen as offensive or inaccurate to some people (including me, which also is the reason people think that I’m “vandalizing the site”). The only reason why I asked to edit the page in the first place, was because the foreign (French and Brazilian) articles mention that Candy is “transgender” in the video game Stupid invaders which takes place after the events of the show, making it canon (well to me at least). I do think that maybe YOUR “edit” was “not very good” to say the least. PS: I was not trying to vandalize Wikipedia, and I have good intentions! (That’s why I changed my name too!). PPS: I wasn’t concerned how Candy was described in “the world of the show” if that makes sense, I just wanted to know if you’d count Stupid invaders and Space Goofs in the same universe (because if you watched the cutscene then you’d might understand) (5:16) UTC — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - Again, I'm honestly not sure what terms should be used nor am I sure of the best way to express the content given this specific situation. We're talking about an animated cartoon and then adding issues of gender into the mix - something I'll admit that I have no experience with :-). You might find better luck by asking on the article's talk page in a new discussion, or possibly by asking your question at the help desk. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:10, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you Oshwah! I believe that the video link that I sent you COULD be used as a reference, as the “rule” does not seem to exclude YouTube videos. To be honest I think that your edit should be reverted by me! [FRENCH version of the Space Goofs Wikipedia article] does IN FACT read the info that I keep repeating, and most of all, I have found my answer before you can even respond to dis! PS. I created [female version of Daffy Duck on my Tumblr account], So yeah! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlantic Ranter 9705 (talk • contribs) 00:03, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Atlantic Ranter 9705 - That's your call and that's entirely up to you. I was only trying to help improve the article section and help answer your questions. I have no vested interest or involvement with the article or the topic areas at all. Do what you feel is correct. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:12, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

IP Conversation is going round and round and nothing is been done. I'm NOT causing disruption, I just want something removing from a page that I feel relates to me and was related to another . I did NOT introduce the IPs to Bills page. The current actions only reinforce my opinion that Wikipedia appears to be a closed club with complex rules to stop others freely joining in and contributing . The sharing and distribution of information appears to be of secondary importance to a set of rather complex rules on enforcment . I have in good faith tried to contribute something that unfortunate does not meet the standards of another and they have removed it. When the situation is reversed that person calls it disruptive. I reiterate that I am NOT disruptive or wish to cause any vandalism or offense. I think we have all wasted enough time on this . Either you will do the right thing and remove want I have requested or you wont.

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I've also responded to this email :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:45, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

An Award for You!

The Official Wikipedia award of Oshwah's Hair
Oshwah Comes Back With Some Crazy Hair ! Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 02:06, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thegooduser - LOL! I always come back with crazy hair :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

You came back in time :) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt) (talk to me) 07:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abelmoschus Esculentus - It's good to be back! I try to stay consistently active on Wikipedia, but (as you know) life gets busy at times and important things in life have to have priority and those things come first... unfortunately, there's only 24 hours in a day :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:39, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Huggle development

Hi why don’t you participate in Huggle development? I believe you know coding and you have an account on GitHub. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt) (talk to me) 08:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Honestly, I've been meaning to for quite some time but I've just been busy with my involvement with current Wikipedia projects to take on more, and real life has kept me busy on top of all this. It's definitely on my "to do" list as far as new projects go someday, but (as with any new project) it needs to work and be beneficial for both myself and the community before I commit myself. I don't want to stretch myself too thin and be someone that's juggling too much and hence not involved to the level as each project needs me to be. I do my best to stay active as a helper and an expert user of Huggle, but at this time this is the level of involvement that I need to stay at. Will change someday; just stay tuned ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:29, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oic. You are the most considerate user I’ve ever met. Yes, development of Huggle only benefits a small portion of contributors. However, blocking a LTA or vandal benefits the ENTIRE community, or even the WORLD. Look forward to seeing you in Github in the (near) future.. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (alt) (talk to me) 08:35, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Abelmoschus Esculentus - I appreciate the kind words :-). Someday ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:41, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia

Oshwah you disappoint me, when you first blocked me or reported me. I thought oh it's fine one time only but sooner or later you blocked me again because of your fake reasons of vandalism. Sometime later on the Fujiwara clan page, I put real information like the year that the Fujiwara clan was founded but after that you or Kintetsu Buffalo reported me and blocked me and gave me one more chance before I was blocked from editing because of your vandalism 'reasons' or nonsense facts but here's one thing, i have the group to take you down and you don't wanna know what that group is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 404NotDiscovered (talk • contribs) 09:03, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Khris249#KhrisBot_2

Hello. I've done Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/KhrisBot. Can you visit that page?. Khris249talk 10:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khris249! Perfect - thanks for creating this page. Once the bot receives official approval, let myself or another admin know and we can unblock the account. Let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to answer them and help you. Thanks for the message and I wish you a great rest of your day :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

James3500

This guy: James3500 Jumped into the vandalism fray on List of highest individual scores in ODIs (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs) after not editing for over nine years. This seems quite suspicious. I reverted his last edit, but not sure if it was actually valid or not. I left a not on his talk page after removing my warnings. What do you think? Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 12:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jim1138 - Seems interesting... I'd keep eyes on it for now and see if things continue. Let me know if things do or if you need more help and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Asking for your opinion regarding the IP abuse issue

Hello Oshwah do you think the IP abuse today is using VPN? It's impossible to evade blocks using 100 IPs in such short period of time. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 12:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abelmoschus Esculentus - Most likely. lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:20, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Masterchef Season 1

You seemed to have left a message on my talk page but I dont see it. If you can, may you tell me? It was after I edited the page Masterchef (Season 1) saying it was uncontributive?

Thanks,

Oshane218 (talk) 13:24, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Oshane218:, your page (and Oshwah's message) is here. —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oshane218 - It was a message left by an IP that wasn't legitimate, and my edit removed that message from your talk page. Nothing to worry about :-). If you have any more questions, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Heh. I was confused by the fact that SanAnMan also bollocked Oshane218 for the same edits :) —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 13:36, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

?? The edits were on a totally different page "Masterchef (Season 9)" but my title is stating its something different. Plus, I actually looked at SanAnMan's page and I saw a conversation with him stating multiple eliminations are always listed alphabetically, I did give a reason to why I changed it and I dont get the face where you say he blocked me. — Preceding [[User talk:Serial Number 54129| unsigned comment added by Oshane218 (talk • contribs) 13:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC) Oshane218 (talk) 14:07, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Oshane218: He said "bollocked", as in warned, not "blocked". Different words. Also, as a side note, Oshane and I had a very nice polite discussion on my talk page about things and we are all good. We actually worked together on some ideas and came to a mutual agreement on stuff (TOTALLY NEW CONCEPT). - SanAnMan (talk) 15:32, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ooooh, Lol I thought it was a missspell but I was wrong. I am looking forward to working with you SanAnMan. Oshane218 (talk) 08:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thegooduser

How do I found out how I got this username? I requested this account over a year ago, but how did I get Thegooduser as my username?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:34, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thegooduser - Looking at your log, you requested this account and username using this process, which was approved and the account created for you. A random-generated password was emailed to you so that you could begin using the account. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:12, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Am I ready for Rollback yet? What happens if I forget to Log Out on a Computer on A private Window?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:56, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thegooduser - I'm not sure if you're ready - I'll need to look at your recent contributions first ;-). What do you mean by "private window"? And is the computer you're using a public computer or a private computer you own and control? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:58, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A laptop in my Apartment in My unit. Private Browser Window. :-)Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 21:59, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Then it's fine - you have nothing to worry about. A valid concern would be present if you left yourself logged into a public computer, but there's no risk of anything going wrong if you just leave yourself logged into Wikipedia on personal computers... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:02, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
But my Sister Might go in my account and hack it...Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:04, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Then log yourself out of Wikipedia when you're done using it and/or make sure she doesn't know your computer password... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:15, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I just accidently logged in on a Regular window and I don't have a computer password lol.... Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Handled - thank you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:14, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Deletion review for Ankit Love

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Ankit Love. Because you closed the deletion discussion for this page, speedily deleted it, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the deletion review. MB190417 (talk) 22:57, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

MB190417 - Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for the heads up :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:28, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Question

While browsing the category for Twitch Streamers, I noticed this strange addition, leading to new user's sandbox. Judging by the user's name, he/she was either trying to create an article about him/herself, OR some fan was trying to do that for this user... Can such sandbox page be WP:PRODed or should I wait until this user will move this out of sandbox? Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom (talk) 05:02, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) @Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom: there’s no need to do anything for now. If the user submits it to AfC, it’ll be declined. If the user moves it to mainspace someone will userfy or delete it. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 05:14, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Omgwtfbbqsomethingrandom! Sorry for the late reply! Life has been keeping me busy lately ;-). Definitely a correct assumption in that the user was definitely trying to create a Wikipedia article about themselves or that person exclusively (the "online alias" name put in the article is the same as this account's username). The user has since blanked that page; I'm guessing the account is probably going to become inactive now... that's usually what I notice after they build up a page just like that and then blank it. If this isn't the case and you see any more shenanigans, let me know and I'll be happy to take another look. Thanks for the message and the heads up. If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sock admission

Oshwah or admin watcher: See here. I've been watching his contributions for clear evidence for an SPI, but that is just a blantant admission, so I doubt an SPI is necessary now. Thanks - BilCat (talk) 06:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

 Looks like a duck to me ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:28, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat, Abelmoschus Esculentus - Definitely a self-admitted sock user. Looks like this has already been handled; if you see any more shenanigans like this, don't hesitate to let me know or file an SPI report. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and no worries about the delay. - BilCat (talk) 05:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:32, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

I am quite new but nobody welcomed me. --MrClank (talk) 11:18, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@MrClank: I don't think so. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:43, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker)@Abelmoschus Esculentus: I saw this earlier on too. The welcome was added subsequent to the post here...according to the timestamps. Eagleash (talk) 13:55, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Eagleash: Oops didn't noticed that. FYI. Regards ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:59, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome!

Can I Welcome Myself on Wikipedia?Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 18:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why... Why would you want to do that? I mean... of course; you can use the welcome template and leave it on your own talk page and welcome yourself if you want to. I just don't see the point in wanting to do so... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Responded. I don't have enough information to look into your request - please see my response for the information I need from you. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:42, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
Thank You for all you do to make Wikipedia Better! :-) Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:06, 21 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the barnstar and for the kind words! I appreciate it very much and I'll do my best to continue to make Wikipedia better and as much as I can :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi,

Do you reckon this constitutes a legal threat? Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 18:31, 22 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Adam9007! My apologies for the late response here - life has kept me busy and I'm just now catching up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails ;-). I saw that the diff you pointed to is now deleted, but I took a look at the deleted revisions and saw the revision you were talking about - his statement made toward you saying that "you are going to be reported to the authorities". Sigh... honestly, ...that's a very good question. While Wikipedia:No legal threats states that "[a] legal threat, in this context, is a threat to engage in an external (real life) legal or other governmental process that would target other editors", it doesn't define exactly what an "external (real life) legal or other governmental process" is, and hence the definition of a legal threat is left worded quite broadly in my opinion... and most likely kept this way intentionally.
The policy page discusses and focuses mostly on the situation where someone believes that an article (usually about them) contains content that they find to be "negative", "defamatory", or "libelous" - and they resort to making a threat (in one way or another) stating or strongly implying that they intend to take another editor, the Wikimedia Foundation, or something another (lol) to court in order to sue them for monetary damages. The policy page doesn't mention anything about the situation where someone threatens another that they intend to contact the authorities and have them reported and charged for a crime, but that absolutely doesn't mean that this user's statement doesn't fall under the policy as a violation of such.
When I've seen this threat made toward another user and coupled with that same user editing disruptively and causing turmoil, (depending on the situation, of course) I usually just block them for being disruptive, for WP:NOTHERE, or for harassment. In my experience, the users making that kind of threat are typically the ones causing the disruption and either failing to listen or are behaving this way purposefully in frustration or rage in order to "take others down with the ship" (so to speak).
The answer to your question is something I'll have to look into and ask about... To me, it comes down to: "what do we normally do when a user make this kind of threat?", "what have we done in the past regarding users who make this kind of threat toward another?", "What exact policy or rationale do we typically invoke or cite when taking action against someone for making this kind of threat?" In this case, I honestly don't know the answer... I'm going to ping Drmies, Kudpung, NeilN, Acroterion, and Ivanvector - each user I pinged is an admin that either I know have the answer to at least some of those questions listed in my previous sentence, or have had some kind of involvement in cases like these in the past and would have good input on this. Either way, I feel that you have a good question and I believe that finding the answer will involve looking at how we've handled similar situations and what's been discussed before... stay tuned! :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Kudpung - That's what I've done before as well... I appreciate your input. Thank you :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Oshwah: Yeah, 'the authorities' could be anyone, including the courts or the Old Bill. So even if it is not a direct legal threat, they could be threatening go to someone who can. And therein lies the crux: does such a threat violate WP:NLT? It probably violates the spirit even if not the letter. I mean, it's not something silly like 'I'm gonna get you' as that's just harassment. 'The authorities' sounds a fair bit more serious, and if genuine, not something we can just laugh off. Adam9007 (talk) 23:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Phoenix Echo

The original entry--mostly provided by me--was quite accurate, but parts of it may still be classified. A colleague pointed this out to me and I decided to delete whatever I had previously entered rather than risk a security violation. Other readers may be able to shed some light on whether or not Phoenix Echo is still classified. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.45.147.117 (talk) 15:12, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thank you for the message. What you describe appears to constitute original research, which isn't allowed on Wikipedia. This aside, the main concerns I had with your edits was that you removed content from paragraphs and sections without explaining why. In the future, please describe and explain your edits using the edit summary input field when you make changes to Wikipedia articles or pages. This will help other editors and users to understand exactly what you're doing and why. It also makes it easier for other editors to jump in and help. If you have any questions, let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message, and I wish you happy editing. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

✌

Hey Oshwah how can i be like you on wikipedia editing like you washing for people vandalism an article and do some changes from some article. 👍 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickyjampr56 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Liam20102195

Hi Oshwah, A week or 2 ago I asked for protection of So Awkward but you declined saying you'd keep an eye on the user - Unfortunately a week or so later the user has returned to carry on where they left off, Just thought I should let you know :), Hope all is well :), Thanks, –Davey2010Talk 14:45, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) WP:RPP Would be the way to go!Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:03, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Davey2010! It's good to talk to you again! I apologize for the delay responding to your message here. Life has kept me busy lately, and I'm just now getting caught up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails. Oh.... joy...... I remember this issue and this user..... I'm so sorry that I wasn't here to take care of this for you and help. Fortunately, another admin did exactly what I would have done and imposed an extended block on the account for continuing to add unreferenced content. Sigh... I always hope that users will learn from these mistakes and the actions that followed and return from their block and move on from things... unfortunately, this isn't what happens for many and it doesn't appear that this is likely to happen with this user... though I do really hope it does and that I'm proven wrong. If you run into any more issues or trouble, or if you need my help with anything - you know where to find me ;-). I hope things are going well for you and that we speak again soon. Until then... ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oshwah, How very dare you!! ... I expect you to be here as and when I need you!! :P, Nah just kidding it's cool mate you can't be here 24/7 :)
Agreed It'd be nice if this editor did learn but unfortunately that doesn't seem to be the case, I feel like we should just put them out of their misery and indef them but I'm not as nearly as patient as everyone else here, Suppose it's lucky I'm not an admin :P,
It's nice to talk to you too, thanks for replying :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 14:34, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Davey2010 - HA! I try to be as available as I can, but life has been keeping me busy... No problem :-). And like I said, if things come up again, just hit me up and I'll be happy to step in. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Will do, Thanks again :), Take care, –Davey2010Talk 15:28, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Playback singer

Hi, I am sorry to bother you again. The sock of sock master[1] is back here [2] with the same style of abusive editing and removal of reliable citations as previously done by master sock. Please look into this as they are far more consistent than my expectations. Regards.-Kishfan (talk) 17:03, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Haha you are wasting your time you try and take ownership of all articles, it is biased nonconstructive editors like you that are not allowing useful contributions and progress on this site. All you ever do it revert other people's work whether a constructive or nonconstructive edit, I know you like to interfere in everything than complain and wine to the admin why you harass other users. Btw I am not a sock and I am not breaking any rules, I have retired my old account and now only use this account. I am only returning to Wikipedia after learning more and I am hopeful I can make positive contributions unlike you. I know you like personal attacks but I am not going to tolerate it from you. Oceanic88 (talk) 18:45, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Kishfan! No apologies are necessary; you're not bothering me at all by leaving a message here. My talk page is open and you're welcome here any time. I apologize for the delay responding to your message here - life's been keeping me busy lately :-). It looks like this user is blocked, so (hopefully) the matter is resolved. If you see any more sock puppet users pop up, report the matter by filing an SPI report and (if the user is being blatantly disruptive) at AIV or ANI. You're also welcome to message me on my user talk page to let me know and I'll of course be happy to help, but it'll most likely be handled quicker if you file a report at those noticeboards ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much. Actually I took you into the loop since you have been dealing this sock. Thanks again for the concern.-Kishfan (talk) 09:18, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Kishfan - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:21, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Admin

I don’t think I’m ready to be one and not at the range. I’m interested and I want someone like you who’s been a admin for years and give me advice of what to do when I decide to sign up. Thanks Oshwah. P.S. you’ve been a great help A.R.M. 01:39, 25 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi ARMcgrath! I hope your day is going well! I apologize for the delay responding to your message - life has kept me busy lately and I'm just now catching up with all of my Wikipedia messages and emails :-). Sure, it's certainly not a bad thing at all to express interest in the role and ask about it and you're absolutely welcome to ask me questions. I'm not sure how much you know about the administrator toolset, the history of the admin user rights, how it's given to users on wikipedia, etc. so I'll summarize it all from the very top for you :-). The admin toolset allows editors to perform additional responsibilities and actions on Wikipedia (i.e. blocking and unblocking, page protection, deletion and undeletion, granting user rights, revision deletion, and other things) but it does not grant you additional "status" or "authority" over other editors in any way, nor does it exempt you in any way from being held accountable for violating policy. Simply put: administrators perform advanced functions and tasks for the community and that's it.
Editors are granted the user rights following a community review process and discussion and whether or not a consensus is reached by the community or participating editors to grant you the tools. The tools are granted to users who possess and demonstrate a very high level of experience, knowledge, tenure, commitment, community respect and trust, civility and cordiality, and other factors. As years have progressed and the project has grown and aged, the expectations of the community when evaluating potential admin candidates have also grown. If you look at the data on this page, it shows you very quickly that the number of total RFA requests over the years have gone down, and I believe that (if you disregard the RFA applications by brand new users who had their request closed as "not now") the percentage of successful requests to unsuccessful requests have also declined as well (I'll need to run those numbers to be sure though). The common reasons that RFA requests fail are outlined here and will give you a good idea of exactly what the community expects to see in candidates as well as what they expect not to see. I can tell you that I ran for adminship about two years ago, and many agreed that mine was a close one. If you want to see past RFAs, just look through the data on that page I linked you to for a list of each one. Or, shoot, you can look at mine... lol. I hope my response gave you some good information that you were looking for. If you have any questions about it, you're more than welcome to ask me and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Need help explain to a user WP:ANALYSIS

Hey, I've got a new user (on my talk page) who I'm having a hard time explaining WP:ANALYSIS to with regard to some proposed edits on Flag of NATO. Since you have been around way longer and are not involved in this, would you be willing to take a look and try to help them out? Thanks! Garuda28 (talk) 20:16, 28 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Garuda28! Sure, I'll be more than happy to help. Is the user we're talking about 475847394d347339? He seems quite keen on implementing the changes he wants and does not want to listen at all..... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
That is correct. And yes, they are quite passionate on this specific issue. Thank you!!! Garuda28 (talk) 12:01, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Whew... Alright, Garuda28. I took a good amount of time and added a comment to your talk page to help explain everything to him in an easy-to-follow fashion. Give it a read; I think you'll find it to be exactly what you're looking for. If you have questions or need anything else, or if things don't get better and things turn disruptive, let me know and I'll be happy to step in if it's needed. Good luck with the discussion, and I hope it comes to a positive and quick resolution :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:00, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I appriciate it a lot! You explained it in such a straightforward and clear manner! Garuda28 (talk) 13:26, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Garuda28 - Happy to do it ;-). Let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:27, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Lithium carbide editing

Hi Oshwah

Just to greet you and to ask you, what do you mean by this reason for removing a part of entered information concerning lithium carbide as a chemical compound. Reason is: " not adhering to neutral point of view "

So ok, please if you can explain to me "neutral point of view" when somebody is just entering data that are facts, not someone opinion about the subject.

For example water boils at 100 C, that is a fact, but even that you can remove this, using a sentence " not adhering to neutral point of view " and as a argument you can explain to someone that 100 C is under 101325 Pa of pressure and at 0 m of altitude, that is measured at see level. And you would be "right" for someone who is not deeply interested in to the chemistry as a subject.

One more thing, generally speaking, when you are dealing with natural sciences like chemistry, biology...etc you can't just enter as justification "not adhering to neutral point of view" and erase entire section.

Not only that some data is very, not to say impossible to find, but it is written on another language, in this case some of entered data are from book published on russian language : " Косолапова Т.Я. Карбиды. ". Other data are fragmented between many scientific journals, like JACS and some publications that are not more published, like Gmelins handbuch der inorganische chemie so next time you decide to just erase someone text at least ask that person a thing or few about changes that is making.

You didn't have a time to look at other wikipedia pages on the same subject, written on another language, like on greek, russian, german ...etc, you should find that at least 80% of entered changes already exist on those pages. Other data are entered from the mentioned russian book.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lithiumcarbid

https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CE%9A%CE%B1%CF%81%CE%B2%CE%AF%CE%B4%CE%B9%CE%BF_%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%85_%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%B8%CE%AF%CE%BF%CF%85

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%90%D1%86%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%B4_%D0%BB%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B8%D1%8F


Thank you on your time

Regards and good bye

Ratko X (talk) 21:38, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ratko X - The reversion and message I left on your user talk page was done unintentionally and by mistake. I rolled back those changes I made right after it was done, and I removed that message from your user talk page. Please accept my humble apologies for the error as what I did was not intended for you, but someone else. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help you further. Thanks for the message, and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:16, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ratko X - Okay, I spoke too soon. I'm actually not sure what the hell I did... I reverted my edit to the article that you modified and restored your changes. I've also verified that no message was left on your user talk page as a result of my revert. Again, I owe you my sincere apologies for what happened. If you need anything else, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help. Thanks again for letting me know about this and I hope that my edits weren't too disruptive toward your efforts and work. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:20, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you help me

I need help putting a protection lock on the Goosebumps 2 Haunted Halloween page so no one can edit it until the movie. Someone keeps putting a false cast member on the page that isn't true. Ambandicoot (talk) 06:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Ambandicoot: WP:RPP with reason. Regards ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 06:42, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been fully protected due to ongoing disputes and edit wars between editors. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:35, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You've got mail

Hello, Oshwah. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 20:29, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I don't understand your question in this email... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:14, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page protections

Hello,

On the recent events in terms of page protection, two pages have had their protection level changed from semi-indef to temporary full protection. Both these protections ended today but instead of reverting back to the original protection level, it becomes unprotected which makes me think that the previous protection level is overwritten by the new one and administrators have to re-protect it to semi-indef. I wonder if there is a way to do something which administrators can change semi-indef pages to temporary full protection but when that expires, it will revert to the previous protection level...

e.g. Cristiano Ronaldo - Semi indef → Temporary full protection (expires 4 August 2018) → semi-indef without the administrators re-doing the latter level.

Thanks, Iggy (Swan) 21:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Iggy the Swan! It's good to talk to you again! I hope things are going well for you and that you're having a good day. Unfortunately, when a protection level and duration is changed (for example: indefinite semi-protection to temporary full protection), the MediaWiki software treats it as a modification of the same protection, and not the application of a new protection level to take precedence over the old one. There's only one parent state in this regard: Either the article is protected, or it's not. If it's temporary and that time expires, the MediaWiki software removes the protection. Your question is something that I've thought to myself numerous times as something that would be nice to have, as I've been left with the unfortunate situation where I've had to modify a lower protection level set a longer duration and increase the level and with a very short duration many, many times... and knowing that I'm going to have to keep tabs on that article when that protection expires and remember to apply the old protection level back.
Fortunately though, this does not apply to situations where pending changes protection is applied and a different protection level is needed. Adding pending changes protection uses a completely separate trigger on the protection settings page, and they're seen by the MediaWiki software as two completely separate things (due to the fact that pending changes protection works by allowing users to edit without restriction but not publishing it to the public until reviewed vs placing active restrictions to who can and cannot edit the page at all). This is why you'll occasionally see articles that have both pending changes protection and another protection level applied.
In a nutshell: Is what you're asking about something that exists at this time? No. Would it be nice if it did? Yes. Hell yes it would... :-). Let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, it's good to talk to you as always and I hope you have a great rest of your day. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:11, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
In a nutshell, it would be nice. This would be nice if it can be done but it's not to be. A suggestion which won't happen. Iggy (Swan) 14:51, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Iggy the Swan - It definitely would be, but I wouldn't classify it as a "suggestion which won't happen". There's been quite a lot of effort made this year to try and revamp and pump up some admin special pages (like Special:Block, discussion is here) to make them more effective and improve how we can apply them. Adding a suggestion to the village pump and an enhancement phab ticket to the feature requests list is how we at least get the idea out there that this would be a nice thing to have. I'm willing to bet that there's a good amount of admins who would be happy to voice their support for the suggestion if you created a discussion... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:47, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NPR flag

Could you please remove my new page reviewer flag? I haven't used it recently. Best, Kevin (aka L235 · t · c) 05:13, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

L235 - Sure,  Done. If you find that you want it back, let me know and I'll give it back to you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Rich the kid was pronounced dead

Rich the kid died at 3:53 A.M this morning — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.51.244.25 (talk) 11:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please see this policy and make sure that you understand it. It's very simple: No reliable source? Then no edit - period. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:06, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Abe chutiye motto badal

I will never Bengali or whatever it is. However, I did use a translator. "You can also get rid of sweet potato" apparently. 🖍S (talk) 08:00, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

What is wrong with Motto?

Dear sir/madam,

What is wrong with google search page the motto is showing abusive words in marathi. When we entre into the link then it is showing correct motto but while searching in google results it is very distracting and abusive. Please make the corrections asap — Preceding unsigned comment added by 111.125.221.77 (talk) 12:52, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I'm confused and I'm not sure exactly what you're talking about? Can you elaborate more so that I can help you? :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Page protection

For Shajahan Khan. Thanks-KH-1 (talk) 13:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

KH-1 -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:18, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Before the Storm

Please see this editor's report in WP:AIV, Special:Diff/852798955, his talk page, Jc86035's talk page and mine. Thanks. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:17, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked, nvm. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 13:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Abelmoschus Esculentus - No worries; glad it's been taken care of ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:46, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit filter

I am guessing that there may be a private filter out there somewhere which prevents the same theme vandalism by User:My Royal Young from happening indefinately, e.g. 'Spearton' blanking. If that's the case, I'd prefer it to disallow the vandalism themes as 'ILOVECASH...' blanking/addition, this 'Want to join this guild' nonsense replacement and the weird large number addition/replacement (e.g. Special:Diff/818073895) that I have noticed more often than the occasional chat to you on the talk page. I do believe there is some filter out there. Iggy (Swan) 14:49, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Iggy the Swan - I did a little bit of digging, but I didn't find an edit filter like that upon taking a few sweeps over some users that were blocked... I'll keep checking and see what I can find.
That aside, if it's an edit filter created to catch an LTA's sock puppet accounts or IP hopping shenanigans, I would not recommend that you set it to disallow actions or otherwise intervene - especially if it's flagging a behavior that the LTA does each time consistently and over something that they possibly don't realize that they do. Otherwise, you're playing with your cards facing upwards for them to see... once the edit filter disallows them from doing what they normally do, they'll instantly know that you've caught what they're trying to do, it won't take very long for them at all to figure out exactly what it is that the filter is set to look for and flag, and it'll quickly teach them to change their M.O. to get around the filter. Now you're back to "square one" and in that phase where you're looking for anything that you think will identify them again... Why put yourself through that extra work?
Either way you look at it (whether you set it to do nothing vs set it to disallow), you're playing a cat-and-mouse game with the LTA and how quickly you can block the user once a puppet or IP is identified. If you have an edit filter that doesn't catch any false positives at all and flags an LTA's sock puppets due to something they do 100% consistently, the absolute best thing to do is have it quietly flag those edits so they can be quickly handled, and without revealing how they're getting snagged. They might change their M.O. if they figure things out, but you're at least not telling them that they need to do so and giving them a bunch of clues that are much better kept face down on the table ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:36, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'll keep that quiet and let them do that if possible without me discussing. Iggy (Swan) 16:04, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Iggy the Swan - You're fine... I was just telling you this so that you'll understand the reason if you were to request this officially with an edit filter built to catch an LTA and they decline it :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:43, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Oshwah. This account had been warned for adding spam links and still seems to be doing so. They also just created an article that seems to not conform rules. Can you have a look at it? Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:19, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ktrimi991! Thanks for the message and for the heads up. I just took a look, and yeah... this user definitely has something going on with this site that's not right. I've blocked them indefinitely for advertising / promotion and I've tagged the article they created for review and deletion. If it's a mistake, the user will appeal and say so. Thanks again, and please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you :-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot Oshwah! Cheers, :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 16:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ktrimi991 - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 16:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Username Heads Up

Hey Oshwah!

Just wanted to say thanks for heads up about the username violation. I appreciate it!

MugshotRMCTI5 (talk) 18:08, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MugshotRMCTI5! No problem! Just watching out for you and keeping you outta trouble ;-). If you have any questions about Wikipedia or if you need help with anything, please don't hesitate to let me know and I'll be happy to help you. If you haven't already, I highly recommend that you go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial. It'll provide you with interactive walkthroughs, scenarios, and information that are very important. You'll be at a big disadvantage if you skip doing this; it will actually provide you with good information that you'll need... ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Warning error

The user on Antoni Porowski‎; did explain why in his/her edit summary: edited an error in his sexuality. It wasn't blanking and he/she explained it JC7V-constructive zone 18:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi JC7V7DC5768, and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns regarding the revert and message I left for this user's edit to the article. I understand that the user left an edit summary stating that (s)he "edited an error in his sexuality", but what concerns me is that the user removed content that was referenced and then replaced it with content that wasn't. The edit summary may explain that the user removed what they believe to be an error, but doesn't explain why referenced content was replaced with content that wasn't. This is what's lacking in the person's edit summary and why I reverted the user's changes. I don't feel that this is a mistake. Please let me know if you have any additional questions or concerns, and I'll be happy to discuss it with you further. I appreciate your message and for expressing your concerns with me; please don't feel hesitant to express concerns if you ever feel this way :-). Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 18:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of NATO

Discussion on the inclusion of two instances of an alternative flag of NATO (because it doesn't comply with both founding specifications and page 14 of the NATO Visual Identity Guidelines) has been broken between Garuda28's talk page and the Flag of NATO article talk page. My purpose is not to note that NATO has an alternative flag, but two instances of an alternative flag. They are on page 14 of the NATO Visual Identity Guidelines and page 8 of Secretary General’s Annual Report 2014. Page 14 of the Visual Identity Guidelines actually note it is the "NATO flag." With the proper citations, will there be conflict with any policy or proper conduct? 475847394d347339 (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please, you misunderstand. The official flag is not incorrect. But it's more informative to note the two instances of an apparently unofficial one. Thanks for the notes, I will read them some time later. 475847394d347339 (talk) 19:27, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
475847394d347339 - I just realized this :-). See my response below - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi 475847394d347339! I actually just finished responding to this same question you asked on Garuda28's user talk page here. Okay, so it's not a dispute over whether or not the flag being displayed in the article is correct... it's a dispute over whether or not content should be added to the article to discuss a second alternative flag that is used. Okay... so, indeed, if the official documents specify that the flag exists and how and where it's used, then sure... you can certainly cite them as sources in the article to support the content. Just make sure that the content added reflects what is stated in the documents and doesn't add any additional analysis based off those sources (which would be disallowed per the big explanation message I left). If the documents don't state what you're adding as content in the article, you're going to need to locate and cite additional sources that support what you're adding, or it can't be added. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. To add comment to the discussion being broken up over two pages - I'd talk to Garuda28 and let him/her know that the discussion needs to be on the article's talk page, and then take it there from now on. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
This has been the biggest dispute. I don't know how thankful I am. Thanks. 475847394d347339 (talk) 19:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
475847394d347339 - You're very welcome! Do remember that this is still under dispute and that you need to work with the other editors involved to resolve any concerns and come to a consensus. Don't add this content to the article until it does. It'll almost certainly result in an edit war between you and the others, and that's definitely not what you want to be doing. That'll only make everything much harder on yourself and everyone else involved, and it will make getting that content added much much more difficult and drawn out... so just don't do that ;-). Get that dispute resolved peacefully with everybody involved, and you'll be able to update that article soon enough (so long as consensus says that it should be added, which I would think it would assuming that your content is well sourced and not in violation of any rules). I'm here, available, and happy to help if you run into any more questions. Good luck! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:37, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Test wiki request

Hey Osh - since I see you've made recent edits on test wiki, could you by chance properly transclude this page to this page for me; the second page is protected and I'm unable to edit it. Thanks! Home Lander (talk) 19:33, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Home Lander - I'll make it even more easier and just grant you the tools. Done and done. No need to transclude your request now. Cheers ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:39, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much. Home Lander (talk) 19:40, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Home Lander - No problem. Let me know if you need help with those edit filters and I'll be happy to do so. They can get quite tricky at times, so watch out! ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:42, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, I figure I might as well sit on the edge of the pool and just dip my feet in. Home Lander (talk) 19:44, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Home Lander - Wear a life jacket! :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:59, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Revdel request

Hello. Could you please delete [[[REDACTED - Oshwah]|this revision]]? Thanks. Hrodvarsson (talk) 21:23, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hrodvarsson -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:26, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hrodvarsson - Also, send those kinds of requests to me via email instead so that they don't land here and generate the Streisand effect ;-). Thank you for reporting this to me. Definitely a serious violation that needed the revy devy :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:27, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will do so in the future. Thank you for your swift action! Hrodvarsson (talk) 21:30, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hrodvarsson - You bet! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:35, 31 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just a moving request

May you help move Draft:Citation needed to Citation needed (which is currently a redirect)? I'd translated this article recently. Please also move the talk page. Many thanks. Regards, SænmōsàWe shall find a way, or we shall make one. 01:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Sanmosa - Sure, one sec... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sanmosa -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Many thanks. Regards, SænmōsàWe shall find a way, or we shall make one. 01:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Sanmosa - No problem ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 01:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Citation needed listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft:Citation needed. Since you had some involvement with the Draft:Citation needed redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. SænmōsàWe shall find a way, or we shall make one. 01:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Draft talk:Citation needed listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Draft talk:Citation needed. Since you had some involvement with the Draft talk:Citation needed redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. SænmōsàWe shall find a way, or we shall make one. 01:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User talk:MPants at work

I see you revdel'd two edits to this talk page earlier. You might want to do so again: [REDACTED - Oshwah] NewEnglandYankee (talk) 02:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

NewEnglandYankee - Good call, thank you! Aaaand the deed has been  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you revert the edit i made?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-sum_thinking#Examples 104.220.184.162 (talk) 04:44, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher) Because we have limited patience for people who want to fool around and troll on here. Please heed the warnings on your talk page. --NeilN talk to me 04:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

FYI

I noticed that you deleted all of the user pages for these accounts, but they should also be blocked as they are all spambots: ArleenUbt88653, JunkoDingle5, MarisolR40, LaraCourtney, LenoreNeilsen32, and MaryanneMcCart4. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:49, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gogo Dodo -  Done. You're right, thanks for the reminder. I'll make sure that I block future bots next time :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:52, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gogo Dodo - Oh shit... you already took care of them. I apologize for overriding your blocks. I thought that you said that they weren't blocked but alas, I was wrong.... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No worries. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gogo Dodo - It's funny how easy they are to spot, too... "Hi I'm such and such and I like butterflies, hugging ponies, and spiderman" <br><br> Also check out my website too!!!! https://SpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpamSpam.poo" ... lol ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
See Edit Filter 499. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:02, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gogo Dodo - That's not a bad filter at all. I would improve it in order to remove false positives by adding "<br><br>" as a condition that the filter looks for as well, as their spam edit always contains exactly two line break HTML tags between their "introduction as a person" and the "hey, check out my URL, yo!"... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:08, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The filter details are set to private. It isn't set for just that particular spambot as it detects other things, too. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gogo Dodo - Oh shit... good call on removing those details. Sigh... It's one of those days again, I guess... sorry about that. I'll have to comb through the logs and see what else it catches. Looks like I have another condition to add to my edit filter ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DELETE THE PIC OF RAJENDRA CHOLA IN THE TOP RIGHT OF THE ARTICLE

Dear sir, 


            Its not Rajendra chola.Its chandikeshwara,one of the 63 nayanmar's in tamil saiva canon.So kindly do me the favor of removing that pic.That picture is totally misguiding many history enthusiasts.Thx in advance.

Best regards, Gopal balakrishnan — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gopalbalakrishnan123 (talk • contribs) 07:18, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Gopalbalakrishnan123 - Your edit removed the entire information box from the article, not just the image. You should add a discussion on the article's talk page if you feel that there's an issue or an error with the image on the article. This way, other editors can participate, help verify if a mistake does actually exist with the image, and work to fix the problem. If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

"Commit" suicide

One does not "commit" suicide, despite common use of the term. The term "commit" implies an illegal act, and since suicide isn't illegal, it's a misuse of the term. Maybe we can find a better way of saying this?

80.169.33.106 (talk) 07:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. I believe this issue falls under Wikipedia's manual style section regarding the need to avoid euphemisms when adding or modifying content in articles. The phase "committed suicide" is a very common way to refer to the event, and I don't believe that the use of the word "commit" implies that the act is illegal at all. People "commit their lives to one another" in weddings, "commit their time and energy" to something they care about, "commit to the terms and conditions" when they sign a contract... I know that I'm using the word "commit" to define different things than what the word is being used for in the article, but my point is that the word is subjective and the phrase doesn't imply an illegal act at all. Plus, the phrase you changed the sentence to ("died in an act of suicide") just doesn't make any sense :-). Check out the link I provided to you above, as well as Wikipedia's guide on words to watch when editing articles, and let me know if you have any questions. Thanks again for the message. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the response. I'll leave you with this link (one of many you can find in a search on this subject). I'll leave things alone for now, but I feel it's something Wikipedia needs to think about. 80.169.33.106 (talk) 08:15, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Erm. I thought suicide was illegal or is it assisting with it?! 🖍S (talk) 11:50, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

changes on Peter Lum's wikipedia page

Hello Oshwah,

I did edit some areas, as I am the Peter Lum, himself.

All the information is correct and true and please let e know if you need me to prove further.

Thank you!

Best regards, PETER LUM — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.228.147.176 (talk) 10:04, 1 August 2018‎

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. Unfortunately, I cannot verify your claim that you're the article subject. Even if I could, your edit would constitute a conflict of interest and self-promotion. If there are changes that you feel should be included in the article, you can refer to this page for instructions on how to create an edit request so that another editor can approve and perform the modification for you. If you have any questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Again, I appreciate your message and I wish you a great rest of your day. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:07, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne Victory FC

Thanks for protecting Melbourne Victory FC. Unfortunately you protected it with the unsourced content still there (Keisuke Honda in the player list). I'd do it myself, but I'm already on 2 reverts & I don't think it's clear enough to be exempt from 3RR? Cheers ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:42, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CJinoz! Thanks for the message, and I'm happy to hear that the page protection is welcomed by you :-). Nah, I think you'll be fine. Just remove that unreferenced content and call it good. If someone puts it back afterwards, then go ahead and ask for help instead of doing it yourself. You're doing exactly the right thing by being very careful about 3RR and asking questions if you're not sure... keep that up for sure. But in this situation, I don't see your removal of unsourced content being an issue. I'm not gonna chase after you for it ;-). Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any more questions or if I can do anything else for you. I'll be more than happy to lend a hand. Good luck with the article and I wish you happy editing. Cheers - :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:54, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:11, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CJinoz - You bet; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It’s come to my attention the same unsourced content is being added at Keisuke Honda. Would you mind protecting that too. Cheers ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CJinoz - I just applied semi-protection to the article for three months. If the disruption continues after it expires, let me know and we can easily reapply it and for a longer duration. Please let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:14, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Gosh that was quick! Thanks again. It’s likely to be sorted out with an official announcement in the next few days but people appear to be having a little too much fun in the meantime. ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  12:18, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CJinoz - Cool deal. No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nice hair.

Hi. Sup. You probably already know about the infamous CrayonS, right? The one who fails to login after some time. After a while. Nice hair btw! I love it! <3 🖍S (talk) 11:49, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Heyyyy, look who it is! Hi CrayonS! Thanks for stopping by to leave a message and say hello! Ha, thanks... the hair has a mind of its own. By the way, you know about the general English Wikipedia IRC channel we use, right? #wikipedia-en ? Myself, as well as many other good editors are usually always active there, and you're welcome to join and chat with us any time! Here's a link that will connect you to the channel through your browser: Come join and say hello! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:53, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why, thank you very much. Discord is better xD. Just kidding. 🖍S (talk) 11:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CrayonS - No way, man! IRC is where it's at! Anyways, I hope to see you join us there regularly and chat with us! We can always use some more editors to talk "Wikipedia" and make stupid Wikipedia jokes with :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:28, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I think I have to sign up. Fml. But still. I could always grab an email address for ze' wiki. [Best Thing Ever!] 🖍S (talk) 09:25, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again, CrayonS! If you're referring to the ability to join the channel on IRC that I talked about above, you would typically be allowed to join the channel without having to register a nick, but we've had a very high rate of spambots trying to join it, so we've temporarily modified the channel to only allow registered users to join until things calm back down again. Registering a nick as a very simple process and takes only a few minutes. The instructions for how to do this are located here. If you run into any questions with getting yourself registered so that you can join us, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Hope to see you join us soon! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, I appreciate your shout-out to that messy mop that people call "hair" ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:33, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. OK, thank you! Btw your user talk page looks like your 'hair'. So many logical arguments about how this and that is. Some are really quite funny. <3 🖍S (talk) 09:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ohhh yeah.... I have quite a diverse audience of people who message me here. I guess you can say that it comes with the job ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I've written a new essay called Wikipedia:Court of law recently btw. Just wanted to share that with you. I see the kind of things people actually talk about. They use caps and shout out different languages by the looks of it. You must have it hard on Wikipedia with all these 'writers'. <3 🖍S (talk) 09:59, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Guess what, I joined IRC last night with Crayon5. I'm gonna get myself a cloak. 🖍S (talk) 08:01, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Guess what, man! @Oshwah, I've got a NSFW section in my user page. A sausage and a rhino's penis. <3 🖍S (talk) 17:08, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:N.C.Rajan

Hi Oshwah. This editor created an article, "N.C.Rajan". I nominated it for speedy deletion, then they moved the article twice. The article is currently named "User:N.C.Rajan". I think user pages should not be created via article moves. Can you have a look at it? Ktrimi991 (talk) 11:57, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ktrimi991! I hope you're having a good day. Where was this page originally created? Was it created on his user space first? Or the article space? I see two move logs but both say that the user moved the article from the mainspace to his user space; I don't see any move logs where he moved it back the other way... Let me know when you can, if you don't mind :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:12, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ktrimi991 - So... I'm an idiot. The second "log" I was referring to was actually the creation of a redirect at the source page... Nevermind! Mystery solved! :-). The article has been deleted per A7. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you, and I'll be happy to do so. Cheers - :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:25, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
After the editor moved it to "User:N.C.Rajan" I felt a bit confused. Thanks a lot for your help Oshwah! Much appreciated. Cheers, :-) Ktrimi991 (talk) 12:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Ktrimi991 - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Monument, Colorado

Hi Oshwah. Block evasion--may need to protect this after all. Thanks, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Bob! I've extended the block to the IPv6 /64 range, so this should be taken care of now. If you see any more vandalism there, please do let me know so I can shut it down. Thanks for the message and the heads up :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:26, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. There's been a lot of disruption in the last week, with removal of sources and map. Probably requires some fine tuning to restore, a mass reversion won't do it. Perhaps I'll have a look later. Cheers, 2601:188:180:11F0:65F5:930C:B0B2:CD63 (talk) 14:30, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Let me know if I can help you with doing that and I'll be happy to do so. Another day in the life of a Wikipedia editor! Fun times.... :-P ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Jason Derek Brown

Hi

I maid an edit a few minutes ago you marked as non-constructive. I edited the status box the formatting of articles based on other Top Ten fugitives such as this one. Im curious as to why you marked it as such?

Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.150.233.183 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2018

Hi there! Thanks for leaving me a message with your question. In short, I read your edit incorrectly and thought you had taken the template and broken them up into newlines. I see now that this is clearly not the case and I apologize for the mistake and for disrupting your work. I've restored your changes back onto the article and removed the warning that I left. Please let me know if you have any more questions or concerns and I'll be happy to help. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:35, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Reverting for no reason

I have encountered you twice before when you have reverted my edits for no reason. Both times, you said it was some kind of accident and apologised. But here we are a third time. I spent an hour thinking about how to improve an article, and worked it into a better state than it had been in.[3] Two minutes after my final edit, you undid everything I had done, without bothering to explain why.[4] "rv - please discuss the removal on the article's talk page" is a completely inadequate edit summary. If you think my editing was somehow so bad that the only way forward was to undo it entirely, you should have the basic courtesy to explain why you think that. Destroying someone's hard work for no reason once was bad enough. Three times is truly appalling. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 20:40, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, and thanks for leaving me a message here. The reason that I reverted your edit was due to your removal of the gallery. I felt that this should be a topic of discussion on the article's talk page before the content was removed so that other editors could weigh in first. That was the explanation I had left in the edit summary. Unfortunately, the revert also undid the changes you made immediately prior to making this one, which was not what I intended. This of course drove you into frustration (It would do the same for me), but it also made the edit summary I left make absolutely no sense in this context. I'm sorry that happened, and I'm also sorry to hear that we keep bumping into one another and only in these circumstances - do you remember the other two instances you speak of? What articles did this also happen? ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:55, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I find your response inadequate.
  • Why exactly did you feel there should be discussion? What guideline or policy did you have in mind?
  • "Unfortunately, the revert also undid.." - no, you also undid my previous edits. It was your decision to trash all of my work. Take responsibility for your actions.
I see the section immediately above this contains yet another instance of you reverting without good reason. You are attempting to wave them all away as accidents, and it is not convincing. Do not revert people's edits if you cannot be bothered to properly understand their content. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 21:48, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I felt that there should be a discussion and input from others first before you simply remove an entire gallery from the article like you did here. Your edit summary, "article has plenty of images already" - sounds like the removal was due to preference on your part. It possible that others disagree and we should give them the opportunity to weigh in before such as removal occurs. You're absolutely right - I didn't mean to word that phrase in order to shift the blame off of myself and onto something else. It was my action that caused more edits than intended to be reverted, and I'm sorry that it happened. If you believe that being open, civil, and willing to discuss the matter, and making apologies and admitting to your mistakes is an attempt to "wave things away" and that it's inadequate to you and not good enough, then I don't know what else I can say to you in order to help. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Why? Why did you feel there should be discussion and input? You're not explaining yourself at all. Reverting "so that others can comment" is not a valid reason to revert. Others may indeed disagree about my edit - it is up to them to make that clear. It is not up to you to try to provoke a disagreement. If you thought the article was better with that gallery in, you should have said that. If you thought there should be discussion, you should have started a discussion.
You don't know what you can say in order to help? You can't say anything, you need to do something to help. You screwed up, you apologised. Fine. Happens to all of us. You screwed up again, you apologised again. OK, a little annoying. You did it a third time, and a fourth, and it's beyond acceptable now. You need to stop screwing up. Do not revert anybody's edits if you don't have a good reason to do so. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)(talk page stalker) A revert is not "trashing your work"; please don't see or treat it as such or working at Wikipedia will almost certainly be an exercise in frustration. Your work hasn't been thrown away or trashed, it's still there in the revision history and can easily be brought back to the "live" version of the article after consensus has been formed. In fact, as Oshwah has stated above that he only meant to undo your gallery removal, I've brought back your other edits up to that point, so that only the edit that was *meant* to be reverted is reverted. In regards to the gallery removal, that should be discussed per the bold, revert, discuss cycle, and not something I can help in (I'm neither you nor Oshwah and neither of you have explained your reasoning on that point in more than *very* broad strokes).
In regards to "unfortunately, the revert also undid": unlike the "undo" function, that can actually happen when using a Rollback-userright-based tool like Huggle, which assumes that if you want to revert the most recent edit on an article and the preceding edits are by the same editor, you will most likely want to revert those as well. Very often that presumption is true, but in cases like this one, it's not. While there are ways to use Huggle to revert just the one specific edit, having reverted the entire set of them is not necessarily a conscious choice or decision. Does not make them any less Oshwah's action or Oshwah's responsibility, of course, but it does mean that it should not be taken for granted that he decided to do that, because that requires actual conscious awareness and intent that quite probably was absent here. AddWittyNameHere 22:20, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
If I spend an hour working on improving an article, and some careless revert-warrior turns up two minutes later to undo my work in its entirety, that is absolutely trashing my work. A reversion is a complete rejection of the work of another editor and if the reversion is not adequately supported then the reverted editor may find it difficult to assume good faith. Indeed I found it difficult the first time this user did this to me, and now I've seen them do it three times to me, and once to someone else, good faith cannot possibly be assumed. This user clearly does not care what they are reverting. Redoing part of their unnecessary and unhelpful revert was not helpful. 146.199.22.234 (talk) 08:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LTA

Hi Oshwah, Kleuske, AddWittyNameHere and all stalkers interested in these matters: I have blocked the unpleasant IP for a month as an obvious (to me) sock of the community-banned WP:Long-term abuse/Best known for IP. Favonian (talk) 11:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Favonian - Thanks for updating this message with your findings and the information. That's definitely good to know - especially given that I've dealt with this LTA many times in the past. I thought in the back of my mind that something didn't seem right here, but I didn't really look or check into anything... though seeing your response here, I probably should have... *shrug*... oh well. Thanks again for the update, Favonian. Much appreciated :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the heads-up, Favonian. :) Thewolfchild also informed me of it. As I said to them, I'm not surprised to see them blocked either way, as even if they hadn't been a known LTA, their behaviour was rapidly heading there. AddWittyNameHere 22:45, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

New photo

I wanted to add a new photo on Briand's article, but it doesn't appear. There is a short text which says 220px, but I'm trying to make the downloaded photo appear. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zwnisfromgreece (talk • contribs) 1 August 2018 21:27 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) @Zwnisfromgreece: You appear to be trying to use an external image: you can only use images which have been uploaded to Wiki Commons or to Wikipedia. Note you cannot use images where you are not the copyright holder or you do not have permission to use the image from the copyright holder (for which you will need to provide evidence). Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four tildes (~~~~). Thank you. Eagleash (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Zwnisfromgreece, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your questions and request for assistance. I'll be more than happy to help point you in the correct direction. The response provided by Eagleash above is correct - external URLs of images do not render on Wikipedia. All images must be uploaded to the website and then linked from the File page on Wikipedia or the Wikimedia Commons in order for them to render exactly like all the other images you see. However, before you perform any kind of upload or use of this image on Wikipedia, you must locate the copyright and licensing information from the photo and the website from which it's located at, and make sure that you read and fully understand Wikipedia's image use policies (specifically, this section of the policy regarding copyright), as well as Wikipedia's policies on copyrights. Any kind of violation of copyright policy is taken very seriously on Wikipedia because it puts the article content as well as the Wikimedia Foundation and Wikipedia website at risk, so please use extreme caution and put fourth a level of upmost diligence to make sure that everything in the area of licensing and copyrights are followed. Make sure that you locate the copyright and licensing information for this image, that the copyright and licensing of this photo is compatible with the upload and use of this image on Wikipedia (if it's not compatible or the findings show that use of the image is disallowed, then you cannot proceed with uploading or using the image here), and correctly tagged and labeled on the file page after the upload is completed and before it's linked to the article. I admit that I'm not an expert when it comes to copyrights and licensing; I only know basic information. However, if you have any more questions about this, please do not hesitate to let me know or (recommended) ask for help by visiting this page dedicated to media copyright questions or look for your question at this FAQ page. Either way, myself or another editor will be more than happy to help you. Good luck and happy editing! :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Courtesy ANI notification

Hey

This is not about you, but you probably would like to be notified about this topic too: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Lepidoptera~plwiki ~ ToBeFree (talk) 21:56, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

ToBeFree - Hey man, how are things? Thanks for the message and for the notification. I'll go by and take a look :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:14, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you :D I just handed in my BSc EE thesis -- this feels awesome. I'm now taking some time for gaming and reading, but will also have much time for Huggle again in the next weeks. You're fine too? Cya on HAN/IRC :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 22:19, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
ToBeFree - Awesome, and congratulations on getting your thesis completed. I remember that exact feeling too back when I was in college... when you get that ridiculously challenging and huge project done and the moment when you hand it in and say to your self, "It's finished... It's done..." and can strike it completely off of your list of things to get done... that intense wave and feeling of relief and that figurative weight coming off your shoulder is one that I'll never forget. I'm doing well, thank you! Just been busy with real life stuff, but that's life and that's how it works... Oh well. And of course - I'm on IRC 24/7 and usually active, so I'll surely see you there soon ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:26, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Userpage

Since you are a Software engineer can you help me design my new userpage? I do not want to use the userpage maker.Thegooduser Let's Chat 🍁 22:21, 1 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

If would be much better for you and very much in your best interest to learn how to to use tables, styles, fonts, colors, pictures, infoboxes, and other tools in order to customize your user page. Else you'll robbing yourself of the opportunity to learn about these tools and styles and how to create and use them... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:31, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Also, software engineers are not necessarily designers. They can help you with technical issues but probably not designs. (although I think Oshwah is a talented designer. Great templates and user page ) ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:35, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
HA, thank you :-). I also think that the opportunity to experience the satisfaction of designing your user page (as well as the learning that you'd get from doing do) are also things that you'd rob yourself blind of by having someone else just do it for you... ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You have only one life. Why not experience it yourself? ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 15:40, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alright...

Just because I'm curious, who is the zebra vandal? Home Lander (talk) 02:20, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Home Lander - I'm not sure, but their user creation log is very close to a bunch of other LTA creations that I just handled. As soon as I saw the username "Fapstronaut" created, I established these accounts with the rest of them and blocked them both. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
OK, figured the weird one would probably be something more. Never mind! Home Lander (talk) 02:23, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
They use all sorts of different tricks to get through the automated and human filters and screenings... I'm not perfect and never will be perfect, but I always try and do my damn best and with this project's best interest in mind ;-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Potato pancake

Hello.. I´m very busy and don´t learn wikiedit.. I´m sorry & mea culpa. I´m a Czech and I say that bramborák is pancake like a Ashkenazim´s latke. Bramborák is fried on the pane with some lard or oil.. no deep frying! And Czech garlic is toxic ingredient.  :-) Please, edit this article, if you want it.. best regards, Sigimer. 46.183.64.9 (talk) 08:38, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for the explanation. No worries; just understand that edits like the one you made here will typically be interpreted as being nonconstructive by others who review it. Though you seem to have meant well with your edit, we also have policies regarding the requirement to word articles to reflect a neutral point of view. Opinions and personal preferences must remain completely out of article text and cannot be used. If you're interested in furthering your learning, knowledge, and experience as a Wikipedia editor and a member of the community, I recommend that you consider creating an account for yourself and use it to not only go through and complete Wikipedia's new user tutorial, but use it to edit and improve the project. There are many advantages to creating and using an account which include the ability to create new articles and pages, request and be evaluated for being granted additional user rights and access levels (which you use to further your involvement with improving the project and hence your overall knowledge and experience), and much more. Give it some thought, and please don't hesitate to let me know if you have any questions. I'll be more than happy to help you if you do. Thanks again for the message and I wish you happy editing :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:43, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Never ending childish vandalism

Hello. Would you mind protecting Vellore Institute of Technology? I don't know if it's a bunch of kids who weren't accepted who are doing it, or other people, but this article plus a few other articles about Indian institutes of technology are being repeatedly hit by large numbers of IPs... - Tom | Thomas.W talk 12:12, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thomas.W -  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 13:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request - Aishwarya Dutta's Wikipedia page

She also acted in a bengali movie called Bouma in 2009. Can you please add this information to that page?Jasheema (talk) 14:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Jasheema! You need to make an official edit request by following the instructions on this page. This will allow it to be visible to multiple editors, who can review your request and help make the changes assuming no issues are found. If you have any more questions or need anything else, please let me know and I'll be happy to help. Cheers :-) - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:53, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for your response. I tried to make a edit request. After clicking publish it asked for me to enter a captcha. I entered the captcha and again clicked publish but again its asking me to enter the captcha. How to know that my edit request is active?
(edit conflict × 2) Check your contributions to see if you made an edit to that talk page. Maybe you should wait and edit other stuff until your account is autoconfirmed to avoid the annoying captcha. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 16:22, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
thanks. I have checked my contributions, but there's nothing about my edit request on that page. As well as may I know how long will it take to autoconfirm my account? If my account gets autoconfirmed, then will I able to make an edit request without asking for captcha?
It takes four days and ten edits to become autoconfirmed (and 30 days and 500 edits to become extended confirmed, just FYI). Yes, you can submit edit requests you want on 30/500 protected pages (but NOT for semi-protected pages since you are already autoconfirmed). ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 17:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I have made an edit request. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasheema (talk • contribs) 19:17, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No problem; always happy to help :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 12:41, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Carroll Maingay

Hi @Oshwah:, you recently deleted the newly published page for Alexander Carroll Maingay. This was created at an afternoon editathon at the University of Edinburgh by one of my colleagues at the Library & University Collections team User:Sscarles. Could you let me know what the issue was with the deleted page and whether we can get the article back into Draft space to work on it further as we do not want to lose an entire day's work and for User:Sscarles to have had a bad first experience of Wikipedia editing as we are keen to encourage more library colleagues to contribute knowledge to Wikipedia.--Stinglehammer (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Stinglehammer, and thanks for leaving me a message here with your question. The article was deleted because the creator blanked the entire page, and I thought it was because he didn't want to continue working on the article anymore. If this is not the case, I can restore it no problem - just let me know. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 14:49, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Oshwah, many thanks for looking into this and coming back to me so quickly. If it was blanked then it must have been blanked in error as we definitely want to retain this article and the work that went into it. Could you revert the deletion please? Sscarles (and Gweduni) will be so pleased as he thought all his work was lost. (If it needs any tidying up, I'm happy to work on it). Many thanks, Stinglehammer (talk) 17:24, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Stinglehammer -  Done. Let me know if I can do anything else for you. Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:32, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Geraldine Bazan

Could you suppress my IP address for Geraldine Bazan please? Thank you. It begins with 5. 🖍S (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

CrayonS - I've rev del'd the IP information and I'll have it suppressed. Please leave a dummy edit... just like I had you do before :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. <3 🖍S (talk) 15:46, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No problem :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:48, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
CrayonS - I went ahead and had a soft block applied to the IP address of your network. This will let you edit like usual while logged in under your username, but you won't be able to accidentally edit while logged out anymore. If you see a block notice when you attempt to save an edit, you're not in any kind of trouble... you just need log into your account and you'll be back to business as usual ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 15:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. DeltaQuad?! <3 🖍S (talk) 17:37, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Accidents

I live on Conesus Lake where the incident supposedly took place and have no recollection of such a serious sounding accident. So I searched all local sources and found no reporting in any news source anywhere. Combined with the dramatic accounting and terming the waters of Conesus Lake in August as "freezing" (average water temperature that time of year is about 70 degrees f) I believe this entry is an extreme dramatization of the actual incident at best, and maybe did not occur on Conesus Lake at all. My edit was to put the entry into context.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.39.176.201 (talk) 18:38, 2 August 2018‎

Hi there! Thanks for the message and for explaining your edit to the article. I appreciate that you tried searching for sources and updating the article to reflect what you found (which were none). I wasn't able to find anything either, however it looks like SarekOfVulcan has since resolved the issue that you expressed in your explanation here (thank you, SarekOfVulcan, for doing that!) so everything should be okay now. Next time you have concerns with something like this where content is on an article without any sources cited and where you also cannot locate any sources, it's best to just edit the article, remove the content, and explain in the edit summary that you "removed unreferenced content where you didn't find any sources" (or something similar), and save those changes. If you need to discuss concerns about an article's content or add statements where you feel something isn't correct or has been written to reflect an overstatement or exaggeration (basically, anything written that isn't reflecting a neutral point of view) like you did with this edit, these kinds of statements and discussions belong on the article's talk page. Read through this help page for more information on talk pages, where to find them, and how to use them. Please also let me know if you have any questions or additional concerns, and I'll be more than happy to help you further. Thanks again for the message and for explaining what you were attempting to do, and I wish you happy editing :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Edits needed to Fairfield Ohio page

Hi, Oshwah. I am the Communications Manager for the City of Fairfield, Ohio, and there is a wrong item on the Fairfield, Ohio, city page. It lists Mark Wendling as the City Manager with a (D) after his name. He is not affiliated with any party, and cannot be as a function of his role with the City. We would like his name removed completely since he's not an elected official, please. Jendex1965 (talk) 20:06, 2 August 2018 (UTC) At the very least, he needs the (D) after his name removed, as he is not registered with any political party.[reply]

(talk page stalker) I've removed the uncited political affiliation. I also updated the link to Steve Miller's page, rather than using a two-year-old archive. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 20:11, 2 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Jendex1965, and thanks for leaving me a message with your concerns regarding the Fairfield, Ohio article. It looks like SarekOfVulcan has since edited the article and removed content that was unreferenced or poorly referenced, and hence resolved the issue that you expressed concerns with here. However, I also saw that since he made those changes, you also edited the article and removed Mark Wendling as the listed City Manager from the article's infobox. Why did you remove this information? Since you work for the City as a Communications Manager, please know that it represents a conflict of interest when you edit this article directly. It's a highly discouraged behavior that the community receives poorly when discovered, and usually results in those changes being reverted. Next time you're faced with editing an article you have a personal conflict of interest with, you should create an edit request instead so that other editors can review your proposed changes for issues and then make these changes for you assuming none are found. If you have any more questions or concerns, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Thanks again for the message and for expressing your concerns here. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:04, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Personal image

Can I use your images on the article Selfie.? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.148.186.251 (talk) 10:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

No, because it's not a selfie. Natureium (talk) 11:59, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there! While I'm flattered that you would like to use the image on my user page as part of the Selfie article, the image is not a "selfie". For an image to be a "selfie", it has to be one that someone takes of themselves while they are holding the camera :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Other people on my IP

I think there are some other people on my IP address because I didn’t vandalize these Wikipedia pages. I have a home IP and it is usually shared with a few houses.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.66.78.72 (talk) 21:24, 3 August 2018‎ (UTC)[reply]

(talk page gnome) I am not answering for Oshwah, only helping out. In case it applies, please see WP:BROTHER. But, please create a Wikipedia account and make sure to always logout when done. This would ensure to differentiate your edits from those of others. There are other advantages such as your own talk page (even if your IP address changed), a watchlist, potential user rights that you may eventually need, etc. —PaleoNeonate – 22:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page stalker) I don't think WP:BROTHER applies here since last edit by the IP (before this one) was more than a year ago. I'm almost certain it's a dynamic IP, and the user only saw those stale warnings after getting assigned their current IP address. So, to answer the IP question - nothing to worry about, but PaleoNeonate is correct - you should create an account if you don't want to receive messages intended for other unregistered users (among other benefits). It's free, of course, and only takes a minute. =) byteflush Talk 00:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
As (somewhat) stated above (lol), you need to create an account and use it to edit Wikipedia in order to avoid any future warning and messages that involve edits that you did not make. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 11:06, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi again,

Is this some sort of legal threat? Should I inform Jimbo Wales about this? Thanks. Adam9007 (talk) 00:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Adam9007: The following letter has been sent to the Wikipedia Founder. ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
legal@ has already been informed. Thank you for bringing this to our attention though Adam9007 . --TheSandDoctor Talk 08:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oops. I was thinking of something else. --TheSandDoctor Talk 17:03, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict) Hi Adam9007! Thanks for the message and for bringing the edit, your question, and your concerns to my attention. I just read the entire text from the diff you provided. While I definitely see how one would become concerned in relation to NLT from this edit, and while the edit certainly outlines concerns with the article, its content, how the editor feels that that the content negatively impacts them and should be edited to remove such content, and uses terms such as "defamatory" multiple times - I do not see a threat of legal action in the diff you provided. The conclusion of the edit states, "I and my lawyer are happy to work with your administration to provide written evidence of the facts to ensure legislative protections are in place for all parties", which could be interpreted be having a "chilling effect", but I personally don't see enough of one to justify that NLT applies to this edit and that administrative action (such as blocking) is required - not without messaging them to notify them of NLT, asking them to clarify their intent, and giving them a chance to respond first. If we want to truly resolve the situation, we should offer to help them or point them to the appropriate contact page so that they can receive assistance regarding their particular concerns. If it were me, I would leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns. Let me know if this is something you want to take on and help them out with, or if this is not something you plan on assisting them with and/or you don't want to be involved with, and I'll be happy to help them directly instead. Either way, someone should at least try and help them ;-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:16, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I'm writing the message I described above on the editor's user talk page now. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. You can read it here. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 08:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
leave a message on the editor's user talk page, tell them that you saw the edit provided here (give a URL to the diff), state and reiterate that they are correct in that we care about the accuracy and neutrality of the content in all of our articles (especially with BLPs) and that we exert our upmost diligence to keep articles in compliance with policy (link them to the policy and guideline pages I listed), and offer to help take a look at the article and do what you can to help. Informally let them know at the end about the NLT policy (again, link them to it) and also link them to the contact page and tell them to contact Wikipedia using this method if they still have concerns That's not the sort of thing I'm good at . In fact, that is the sort of thing I'm not good at . Adam9007 (talk) 03:57, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Adam9007 - Hey, you can't improve if you don't try, right? ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 04:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Melbourne Victory FC redux

Hi Oshwah, GiofanniRahman just added the same unsourced content at Melbourne Victory FC that lead to the page protection and from the look of their talk page they have a long history of similar disruptive/unsourced editing, any chance you could take a look? Thinking a short block might be appropriate? ...   CJ [a Kiwi] in  Oz  10:13, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi CJinoz! Thanks for leaving me a message here with your request and your concerns. I definitely agree that this user has had issues with this in the past and has been warned numerous times for adding unreferenced content to articles. I've blocked the user for 72 hours due to the edit that (s)he made to Melbourne Victory FC. It would be a good idea to go through this user's latest contributions and make sure that their other changes aren't aren't unreferenced as well - I see a lot of edits that this user recently made that are the target articles' latest revision. Are you able to do this? Let me know, and thanks again for letting me know about the issue :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 10:40, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Apologize

I had changed motto of Marathwada Institute Of Technology Motto. I apologize that it was done by mistake. Dhananjaykale1997 (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dhananjaykale1997! No worries; thanks for the message and for letting me know. Happy editing - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 17:53, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Could you take a look at this article?

Hi! Would you mind taking a look at [REDACTED - Oshwah]? I've just made some edits to remove BLP violations, but I think revdel may be appropriate. It should be clear which information I'm concerned about, but if there's any doubt, please drop me an email and I'll elaborate off-wiki. Marianna251TALK 19:32, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Just noticed you redacted the link to the article - apologies if I should have emailed you straight away instead of leaving this message. Marianna251TALK 19:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Marianna251! No problem; it happens all the time. Emailing these requests is preferred as we want to do our best to generate as little attention to the edits in question as possible, and adding requests here will trigger a Streisand effect-like response ;-). Thanks for your diligence and for letting me know about the content in question. Please don't hesitate to let me know if I can do anything else for you and I'll be more than happy to help. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:49, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your help! I'll email anything I come across in future. Marianna251TALK 19:51, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Marianna251 - No problem; always happy to lend a hand ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 19:52, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ping

Hello, Oshwah. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.

- BilCat (talk) 20:00, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

BilCat - Just received it, and I'm looking at it now... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:09, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 20:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - No problem. Just replied; check your inbox :-). ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:24, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The user still doesn't appear to get it, and has removed the other user's IP address from its signature on my talk page. I've restored it with a note not to do it again. A follow-up on his talk page might be needed. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 07:18, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
BilCat - I just left the user a message asking him to stop removing the IP information from your user talk page, and I explain directly that the IP doesn't belong to him. Let me know what happens and if this helped or not... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 07:23, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

deleted Ofelia Garcia

Why did this get deleted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Khanhastic262 - Was this content you added to your userpage about you? Or someone else? It looked to me like the information was intended to describe yourself. Let me know. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 20:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I want to create a wiki page for Ofelia Garcia.. how do I do that.. Thanks, Khanh — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 21:08, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

See also: Ofelia Garcia. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Khanhastic262. It looks like the article on this person already exists - see Ofelia Garcia. Since an article exists on this subject, I went ahead and restored your user page and the content you added to it. Feel free to use the information you added to your user page and merge it with the content at Ofelia Garcia in order to make one page. Please let me know if you need anything else. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:23, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No they are two separate people.. One is an artist... that is already exists the other which is a scholar ( I create) this.. hence the title Ofelia Garicía (professor) and scholar... that is the reason why I created this.. two different people... Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanhastic262 (talk • contribs) 22:14, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Khanhastic262 - Ah, okay I see. You're welcome; thanks for the messages and I wish you happy editing and the best of luck with the article creation :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:25, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

iDubbbz real name

https://i.4pcdn.org/tv/1487390980871.jpg

His real last name is Washburn — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.251.161.176 (talk) 20:59, 4 August 2018‎

That link you provided means nothing as far as a reliable source is concerned. Please take some time and review Wikipedia's guideline page on identifying reliable sources, as these are the sources we need to locate and use in order to verify content within articles - especially if they're biographies of living people. Thanks :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:27, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked Mamamoo page.

May I ask why its now blocked when we have been asking for a fair removal of an information? Iy was unfairly written by someone who just wanted to attack.

If that information stays there, then the controversies should be added in any other page. Thanks. Viratvio (talk) 21:11, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Viratvio - The article was protected due to the persistent disruptive editing behaviors that started to occur. I'm aware that there was an effort made outside of Wikipedia (somewhere on social networking) to recruit people to come here and update the article to remove the information. This behavior is known as meat puppetry, which is against policy and not allowed on Wikipedia. Instead of attempting to recruit like-minded individuals to force a change to a page using disruptive behavior, those users are expected to resolve their disputes properly and discuss the matter on the article's talk page and come to a consensus regarding the proper action to take. If users are recruited to run onto the talk page and make edits there, this also counts as meat puppetry and is disallowed just the same. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 21:39, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

COI/POV edits on politician page

Hi! See this diff. The mass removal seems to indicate POV/COI issues. I already posted a notice on user's talk page. I didn't take to ANI or AIV yet, but I wanted advice on how best to proceed. Also, feel free to ping user. I don't want user to think I'm talking behind his/her back. Just trying to figure out how best to proceed in cases like this. Thank you for your work! --Policy Reformer(c) 21:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi PolicyReformer! It's good to talk to you again. I hope your weekend is going well so far. Thanks for leaving me a message here with your concerns and request for advice on how to proceed from here. I took a look at the article's edit history, and I see that multiple users have reverted Krieg13's changes to Mimi Walters only for Krieg13 to revert the article back. I've left a warning on Krieg13's user talk page regarding edit warring and 3RR. If you haven't created a talk page discussion over this issue and pinged Krieg13 to join in on the discussion, I recommend that you do so. Make sure that you avoid breaching 3RR and violating Wikipedia's policy on edit warring (refer to the two links I provided for details); it's easy to get sucked in and it's not something you want to do :-). Now that the user has been warned, they're expected to stop this behavior and discuss the matter on the article's talk page. If the user continues to revert the article back to their preferred version after someone else undoes the changes, report the user to AN3 or let me know. If you need anything else, you know where to find me ;-). Cheers - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:21, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, for the follow-up and suggestions. I'm going to post a longer follow-up the article's talk page. Will ping both you and user there. Thank you so much! --Policy Reformer(c) 22:29, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
PolicyReformer - You bet; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 22:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Radio station accounts

Not sure, but the accounts you've been blocking because they have radio stations as their account name might be one of these; it seems familiar. Home Lander (talk) 23:37, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Home Lander - I think you're right. I do remember dealing with a huge issue with the creation of many radio station usernames and I think I remember being told or shown an LTA page... it was awhile ago though. My usual process (if it's just one or maybe a couple) is to soft block the account as promotional / representing a company. However, if they start to pick up, I just hard block one so that the IP gets autoblocked and if I remember correctly, that usually took care of it... thanks for the message; I'll see what I can't figure out... :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 23:44, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

List of women executed in the United States since 1976

Hello! I noticed that you have semi-protected List of women executed in the United States since 1976. While I have indeed reverted the false information added by two users, it looks like the unsourced change of information goes way back. Beginning from December 2017, several apparently distinct users, both IP and non-IP, have made multiple edits in a row changing information, arbitrarily changing execution methods and the ages of the executed women and adding a citation to the apparently non-existent source harrisprosecutor.org. I have reverted to before the suspicious long chains of edits. Should there be an SPI? --Leugen9001 (talk) 00:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Leugen9001. There certainly is no harm in creating an SPI if you have legitimate belief and legitimate evidence and proof that sock puppetry is occurring. However, depending on the evidence submitted, how recent the users have edited, and other information - the options to pursue might be limited. Just remember that the purpose of an SPI is to document evidence in order to assert that two or more accounts are being controlled by the same person. While you can certainly add anonymous IP users to the report in order to help with proving the case, creating an SPI to only report IP users isn't the normal workflow (unless in very significant or extraordinary circumstances). If you have any more questions, please let me know and I'll be happy to answer them. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 00:10, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral point of view

The passage I restored had been there for months, but was taken out for unexplained reasons. I wasn't even the one who put it there in the first place.

Now I'd like you to explain why my restoration of that passage was "non-neutral" and how you caught wind of it mere seconds later.2601:84:4502:61EA:456F:E528:DD7:CF11 (talk) 02:33, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I believe the content was removed because the text seemed to be an opinion or an analysis. All content on Wikipedia articles must reflect a neutral point-of-view and I don't believe that this text is in compliance with this policy and should be left removed. Hence, I removed the content from the article. Please let me know if you have any more questions and I'll be happy to answer them. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:37, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

POV warriors at Caucher Birkar

Hi Oshwah, hope you're ok. I have a question about page protection. There is an ongoing edit war at Caucher Birkar with some users (mostly IP/new accounts) trying to add "Kurdish" in the nationality of this mathematician. I asked for page protection : [5] but my demand was removed by an admin saying "rm dupe". I must confess that this is quite disconcerting, i asked for clarification to the said admin but no answer. Would you be so kind as to give me a reason that would have motivated the administrator to refuse my request? Thank you in advance. Cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:49, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Wikaviani. Your request was removed simply because someone else submitted a protection request for the same article before you did; the admin was just removing one of the two requests to eliminate confusion. I just reviewed and applied semi-protection to the article, so all should be set for now. If more problems arise with the article, file a report at the proper location or let me know and I'll be happy to take a look. Cheers :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:52, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much ! Take care. cheers.---Wikaviani (talk) 02:56, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikaviani - No problem; always happy to help ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 02:58, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, i know that mate, this is why i come here when i can't find an answer to my questions. And this is also why i would strongly support you if one day you consider applying to become a bureaucrat. Best regards.---Wikaviani (talk) 03:05, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Wikaviani - Hahaha... Bureaucrat, huh? Haven't even given that a thought. Maybe someday (years down the line) if the need becomes present I may consider it, but it's definitely not on my "priority radar" right now ;-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:08, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, Of course, this is your call, but still believe that you would be a great bureaucrat with a great ... haircut ! :-))Wikaviani (talk) 03:17, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Editing

Hello. Thank you for the input. However I have been receiving multiple messages and warnings for editing that I have not done but Wikipedia is attributing to me. I believe I have been hacked and am thus deleting my account. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.198.185.39 (talk) 03:11, 5 August 2018‎

If you're receiving warnings for edits that you're not making on Wikipedia, the solution is actually to create and use an account :-). By doing so, you'll only receive messages for the edits you make. If you want more information on the advantages of using an account, you can click here to review the help page. Best regards - ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 03:14, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

124.104.239.158

124.104.239.158 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

User:My Royal Young is back. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:24, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

...and he'll need his talkpage access disabled too. 2601:1C0:4401:24A0:98CA:B38A:37D4:F038 (talk) 06:27, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Way ahead of you ;-)...  Done. ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 06:28, 5 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Definition of Nationality

This is ONE of the definitions of "nationality" in a Merriam Webster: "people having a common origin, tradition, and language and capable of forming or actually constituting a nation-state". Please pay attention to the usage of "CAPABLE" in the definition. Kurdish is nationality, similar to Arab, Turkish or Persian.

What is the reason that you force the concept of nationality in the case of Caucher Birkar??

What is the reason that Persian agents are allowed that to edit the Cauchar Birkar Wiki page but Kurdish cannot?

What is the reason that whatever definition that you give MUST be correct??

Why the freedom of choosing a nationality by a human being is ignored. In the case of Cauchar Birkar he devoted his award to "Kurdish Nation", the few people in the Wikipedia force it to what they want?? Why these few people act like the Iranian Gov.

Last the Iranian Gov. TV presented an interview with Cauchar Birkar's father while he was speaking in Kurdish and congratulating to the Kurdish Nation the subtitle in Persian added IRANIAN!! This is fraud. Why the same mindset is forced by few Persian agents here and unfortunately you support the same idea???

Even the English definition of NATION doesn't require PASSPORT, STATE or .... 40 million people are Nation, similar to Arabs, Turks, Persian and ....

IP

IP Conversation is going round and round and nothing is been done. I'm NOT causing disruption, I just want something removing from a page that I feel relates to me and was related to another . I did NOT introduce the IPs to Bills page. The current actions only reinforce my opinion that Wikipedia appears to be a closed club with complex rules to stop others freely joining in and contributing . The sharing and distribution of information appears to be of secondary importance to a set of rather complex rules on enforcment . I have in good faith tried to contribute something that unfortunate does not meet the standards of another and they have removed it. When the situation is reversed that person calls it disruptive. I reiterate that I am NOT disruptive or wish to cause any vandalism or offense. I think we have all wasted enough time on this . Either you will do the right thing and remove want I have requested or you wont.

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