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    October to December 2017 Milhist article reviewing

     Military history reviewers' award 
    On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, you are hereby awarded the WikiChevrons for reviewing a Milhist article at PR, GAN, ACR or FAC during the period October to December 2017. Thank you for supporting Wikipedia's quality content processes. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 04:57, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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    My dear friend

    I did not think it was necessary to wheel war over AN/I discussion closure; for this case, it was fine; but when are you going to run for RfA? Hundreds of us have been asking you and perhaps, GreenMeansGo. Alex Shih (talk) 20:26, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Alex Shih: Look: I really must apologise about the ANI close. I assure you—no excuse that it is—that I didn't realise that You had already closed it, that SoV had re-opened it, and then I turned up in size thirteens  :) I saw the thread, went to the RfC, saw you'd closed that, and went back to the ANI thread... and closed it :o I'm afraid you and "hundreds" of others are now in the company of someone who didn't check the page history. A page one error! -and one which I will be rightfully condemned for. Sorry about that. Hope SarekoV didn't think I was stepping on their toes too. wel, clearly i did; but not deliberately. Nice message though: thanks! >SerialNumber54129...speculates 20:34, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I see what you're doing... a joint RfA so we can fail together an console one another. GMGtalk 21:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Hey, if you are all bound and determined to fall on your sword like that, this'll cut the sword budget considerably.... Anmccaff (talk) 21:41, 17 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, but then they're stuck together and would have to abide by the two-man rule for any administrative actions. Primefac (talk) 15:44, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    True dat  :) They're critical, I just bring the mass  ;) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Serial Number 54129 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 18 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Dolly Rudeman

    The article Dolly Rudeman you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dolly Rudeman for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Usernameunique -- Usernameunique (talk) 09:21, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Peter, Abbot of Vale Royal

    The article Peter, Abbot of Vale Royal you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Peter, Abbot of Vale Royal for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Eric Corbett -- Eric Corbett (talk) 19:02, 24 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    RfA

    I know a lot about RfA, prbably more than most because I pioneered the biggest ever investigation into it and I've voted on literally 100s of them. One of the problems of being an admin, is that people jump on us for anything they can and just love taking our comments out of context. You said 'extremely unfair'... Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:21, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    PS: We'll talk about it more when you run for adminship, and based on your history, I might even nominate you. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 06:24, 19 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    ITN recognition for Attapeu dam collapse

    On 24 July 2018, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Attapeu dam collapse, which you nominated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 23:34, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Cèllere Codex

    The article Cèllere Codex you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Cèllere Codex for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ceranthor -- Ceranthor (talk) 17:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Murder of Deborah Linsley

    The article Murder of Deborah Linsley you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Murder of Deborah Linsley for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ritchie333 -- Ritchie333 (talk) 17:42, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Anyway, down to more important matters, are you up for a pint or three at Pendrel's on Sunday? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:50, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ritchie333: Yep, I'll be there. Saw your note on Mediawiki and agree wholeheartedly with your thoughts  :) I'm going to Soho first (to take a photo) but it's only 10" walk away and I guess i could be there from 1-ish. What were your plans? —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 17:53, 10 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for John/Eleanor Rykener

    On 16 August 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John/Eleanor Rykener, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1394, John "Eleanor" Rykener was apprehended for committing a "detestable unmentionable and ignominious vice" in Cheapside and later confessed to having had sex with both friars and nuns? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, John/Eleanor Rykener), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    A beer on me

    A beer on me!
    For your amazing work on articles. I'm drinking a nice Vegas yard of Guinness right now and would like to share in the fun. Drinks on me. AmericanAir88 (talk) 04:22, 22 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Ricky Megee

    The article Ricky Megee you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ricky Megee for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Catrìona -- Catrìona (talk) 17:21, 23 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Extremely impressive!

    The Original Barnstar
    For your original article Rose Street Club, truly a fantastic piece of work! Carrite (talk) 18:11, 25 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, thanks for this piece of anarchist history! czar 04:36, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Carrite and Czar: Thanks very much! I think the Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club might be next; not only is it copiously named, but it's a bit of local history for me, so that's added interest. Have a good Sunday! —SerialNumber54129 paranoia /cheap sh*t room 16:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club

    The article Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Catrìona -- Catrìona (talk) 15:41, 29 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for John Fresshe

    On 17 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Fresshe, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1381, during the Peasants' Revolt, John Fresshe—later to be Lord Mayor of London—was widely suspected of encouraging the mob to burn down the Marshalsea Prison? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John Fresshe. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, John Fresshe), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 17 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Murder of Deborah Linsley

    On 18 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Murder of Deborah Linsley, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the murder of Deborah Linsley on a train in 1988 hastened the speed with which British Rail abolished the use of the type of compartment coach in which she died? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Murder of Deborah Linsley. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Murder of Deborah Linsley), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 18 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville

    On 21 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the Wars of the Roses, the son of William Bonville was killed at the Battle of Wakefield in 1460, and Bonville himself was executed a few months later after the Second Battle of St Albans? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, William Bonville, 1st Baron Bonville), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Vanamonde (talk) 00:03, 21 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club

    On 24 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club, formed in 1880, was one of the first openly socialist societies in London? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Stratford Dialectical and Radical Club), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Rose Street Club

    On 28 September 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Rose Street Club, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Rose Street Club in 19th-century Soho has been described as bridging the political gap between an earlier generation of chartists and a newer trend towards anarchism and socialism? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Rose Street Club. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Rose Street Club), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Rose Street Club

    The article Rose Street Club you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Rose Street Club for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Catrìona -- Catrìona (talk) 00:41, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Slovak Three

    The article Slovak Three you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Slovak Three for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Catrìona -- Catrìona (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Barnstar

    The Original Barnstar
    Wonderful work with the Becky Sharp article; it encourages me to work on fictional character articles more in the future. Aoba47 (talk) 04:20, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Aoba47: You're very kind, thanks very much. Yes, I've seen you at FAC quite a lot, nice one! But, with this—*ahem*—I wonder how obvious it is that I've never actually read the book! :) ——SerialNumber54129 15:17, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Of course, and I think that the article is very well done! It was put together very quickly so I am impressed by that. Aoba47 (talk) 16:16, 28 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Triple Crown

    Congratulations to Serial Number 54129 for achieving the Imperial Triple Crown Jewels. Keep up the great work! Damien Linnane (talk) 12:43, 7 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    A beer for you!

    Congratulations on getting John/Eleanor Rykener to FA status. John B123 (talk) 09:12, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Thirsty work, John B123 ;) thanks very much! I'm glad you approve, I know it's a speciality of yours, and your appreciation means extra because. Hope you're well! ——SerialNumber54129 09:28, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    Echo the above - important work. ceranthor 20:13, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    A beer for you!

    Since they apparently don't serve tequila in this establishment. Way to go with Rykener! Usernameunique (talk) 17:55, 17 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for John FitzWalter, 2nd Baron FitzWalter

    On 8 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John FitzWalter, 2nd Baron FitzWalter, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 1342, John FitzWalter accused men from Colchester of invading and damaging his park at Lexden, and soon after besieged the town for more than two months? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/John FitzWalter, 2nd Baron FitzWalter. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, John FitzWalter, 2nd Baron FitzWalter), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Vanamonde (talk) 00:02, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Percy Glading

    The article Percy Glading you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Percy Glading for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Catrìona -- Catrìona (talk) 18:02, 22 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    2018 Year in Review

     The WikiChevrons 
    For you work on John Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk and John Minsterworth you are hereby awarded these WikiChevrons. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    The Biography Barnstar
    For you work on John Mowbray, 3rd Duke of Norfolk and John Minsterworth you are hereby awarded The Biography Barnstar. Congrats! TomStar81 (Talk) 19:22, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Hermes 3000

    On 7 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hermes 3000, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that actor Tom Hanks has claimed that the Hermes 3000 is the one luxury item he would want to have on a desert island? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hermes 3000. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Hermes 3000), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    – Ianblair23 (talk) 00:03, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Congratulations from the Military History Project

     Military history reviewers' award 
    On behalf of the Military History Project, I am proud to present the The Milhist reviewing award (1 stripe) for October to December 2018 reviews. MilHistBot (talk) 01:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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    H'mmm. I must've accidentally reviewed an article tangentially related to military history, sorry about that :) ——SerialNumber54129 12:46, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Becky Sharp

    The article Becky Sharp you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Becky Sharp for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Usernameunique -- Usernameunique (talk) 23:41, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Marc Bloch

    On 18 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Marc Bloch, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Marc Bloch (pictured), one of the most influential historians of the 20th century, was also a French Resistance fighter executed by the Gestapo in 1944? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Marc Bloch. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Marc Bloch), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    AmakuruThe muffin is not subtle 00:01, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you

    The Half Barnstar
    This barnstar is awarded in appreciation of your input to and support for Siege of Berwick (1333) all the way from GAN to FAC. Thank you. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:10, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    That's very kind Gog, thanks very much. How's it going—must be nearly there by now? Hope all is well! ——SerialNumber54129 14:13, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Things are good thanks. How is RL for you? Yes, it got promoted last night; my second FA and the first I wrote from scratch - well, cough, excepting your doubling of it in size, which is what really made it as a promotable article.
    45 minutes after it was promoted I got an A class medal and 4 hours after that my first Four Award. I am new enough to Wikipedia to find this reasonably exciting.
    I am about to have a disagreement over the MoS in an ACR - Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Midland Railway War Memorial - with an editor vastly more experienced than me. If you felt like casting your own experienced eyes over it, if only so you can tell me that I am being an idiot, it would be appreciated. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:52, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Go carefully with the butter Gog :) yes, I see great things are happening, congratulations! Re. the Memorial—no, I think your original reading was correct. Apologies for tardiness, I would have got there sooner, but I was a little tied up elsewhere  :) but it's really great when these things get discussed in a civilised manner and then resolved so peacefully. Hence my barb about dramaboard tricoteuses! Thanks for the BS again, it reminds me to update the—currently in a somewhat Miss Havisham-style state of disrepair—trophy cabinet. ——SerialNumber54129 22:02, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Moi? Buerre? Je ne comprends pas.
    Oh yes. We live in exciting times.
    Good. You seemed prompt enough to me. I was a little concerned I may find my head in a basket, but it all worked out in a civilised manner.
    You seem very busy with FACs of late. No danger of running out of English dukes I suppose. I did an image review while I was browsing it. If I get time over the weekend I'll do a full review. Interesting article.
    Quite right. Get your duster out and get the place organised. One should always dress for dinner.
    Gog the Mild (talk) 22:38, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Siege of Oxford (1142)

    The article Siege of Oxford (1142) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:Siege of Oxford (1142) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Ed! -- Ed! (talk) 23:21, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Percy Glading

    On 22 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Percy Glading, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Percy Glading, British communist and Soviet spy, was described by the head of MI5 as looking "like an overgrown schoolboy" but also "quick-witted and likeable"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Percy Glading. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Percy Glading), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    PanydThe muffin is not subtle 00:02, 22 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Your GA nomination of Vale Royal Abbey

    Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Vale Royal Abbey you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Aircorn -- Aircorn (talk) 09:40, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Haha

    Hahahah. I'd forgotten you were Muffled Pocketed.[1] Thanks for the reminder! 👏 Bishonen | talk 14:25, 24 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]

    referencing style etc

    Hey there, just returned from traveling. Regarding the referencing style, I have mostly written a Python program that takes articles with a mishmash of styles and converts them to the one I use. The program is on my laptop, not for a bot; I dunno how to use bots. But ping me if you have a huge mess to convert. Hope things are going well! ♦ Lingzhi2 (talk) 10:59, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Unaddressed, aggressive derailment

    The remarks posted here are not clear in to whom they are addressed, especially as they refer either to a disconnected topic (WP:NOTDEMOCRACY), not referred to in any of the above comments, or to an information page (WP:FREESPEECH), the validity of which is also not under scrutiny, or, worst of all, to a veiled menace (Take care!, exclamation mark included, italics mine), missing any allegation of a concrete misbehaviour.

    I want to state explicitly that, regardless whether I am addressed or not, I perceive these remarks as an uncalled for, serious derailment, directed against well behaved manner, fully de rigeur. (I do not refer to the second indecent remark there.)

    I do not expect any specific reaction, however hope to stay unmolested from such unguided offenses in the future. Purgy (talk) 17:30, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you, Purgy Purgatorio; such a depth of miscomprehension I have not encountered for a while. Do I gather, through your pseudo-legalese—which, for clarity, incidentally, make my remarks appear crystal clear—that you wish me to stop referring editors to Wikipedia information pages as an exercise in their enlightenment? Clearly, I will—not. ——SerialNumber54129 18:15, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    H'mmm, on reflection, I'm less surprised; it's little over a year since Iridescent was minded to warn you regarding personal attacks. While what you have written here does not yet amount to a such an attack, it's probably indicative of the above-mentioned communication isue. ——SerialNumber54129 18:21, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Bbb23: Thank you; it was less an encouragement and more—an advisory, and one said, I assure you, in a completely toneless voice. ——SerialNumber54129 18:33, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Guys. I have posted what I hope is my final contribution on this matter on my own talk page. Can we let the matter rest there, please?. best wishes. Izzy (talk) 18:41, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Well, I guess that's the problem with mentions of harrasment; they're—so very easy to misunderstand, and yet get taken—quite rightlyo—very seriously. ——SerialNumber54129 18:46, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    (talk page stalker) As I see it, Izzy expressed an opinion that 250 people disagreed with and got blowback for it. If you're in that situation, you must make your argument watertight and incredibly convincing (for homework, imagine what the response would be if I went to the Daily Express comments section and said "I think Brexit is a rubbish idea"). Any talk about "free speech" is a red herring; this is a private website and there are things you should definitely not say on Wikipedia (try saying "I'd like to upload my collection of child pornography to Commons, what's the best category to use" and see how far "free speech" gets you when the police pay you a visit). I think my frustration here is that Izzy has a track record of working on articles and cleaning up British political BLPs (as, for that matter, has SN54129), so to get sidetracked onto this "he said, she said" nonsense is a gigantic time sink. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:17, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    (talk page stalker) That is such terrible advice, I hope nobody follows it. The notion that if you disagree with 250 people you "must" make your argument "watertight and incredibly convincing" is nakedly advocating for mob mentality ("You better be damn right, or else don't disagree with the majority!"). Comparing an oppose !vote at an RfA with a public admission of engaging in child pornography is more ad hitlerum than an actual ad hitlerum. Free speech is not just some law, it's a moral and ethical value, and one that is widely shared around the world; I don't think everyone agrees that Wikipedia is somehow exempt. I'm shocked at the squelching and badgering of oppose votes (and not just Izzys, but all three) by very experienced editors and admin. Levivich 16:28, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Levivich:, I'm afraid you've completely misunderstood all of my points. Logically following the premise of "That is such terrible advice, I hope nobody follows it" implies you should instead write "Oppose - candidate is a fucking asshole. I will not reply to badgering". I wasn't comparing an oppose !vote at RfA with anything, I was simply saying that there are some things that you cannot claim free speech for, and gave a blatantly over-the-top example. I don't understand what "nakedly advocating for mob mentality" means, but I'm simply paraphrasing what Paul Graham says in his "How to disagree" essay. For example, at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/JJMC89 you can see I !voted "oppose" with a well-reasoned argument, and my opinion didn't match the eventual consensus. Yet it wasn't challenged by anybody. Aim for DH6 and refute the central point. For example, I think Brexit will be an economic disaster and lead to increased unemployment, hunger and poverty. If you want to challenge that, you need to bring hard evidence and facts, not just say "you lost, get over it" or "shut up, remoaner" which is about the usual DH0 level of discourse I get. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:42, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ritchie333: There were like 200 support !votes that brought no hard evidence or facts (mine included), yet nobody challenged that. If only unsupported oppose !votes are challenged, that would be a double standard. The hierarchy of disagreement is great and all, but an editor should be free to say "I oppose because of my gut feeling" or "I oppose for no reason at all" without being warned by an admin for it. Other editors are free to ignore or discount such !votes, they do no harm. Squelching disagreement, on the other hand, does a lot of harm; that's why freedom of thought is such a cherished value worldwide (and, um, kind of the raison d'être of Wikipedia, don't you think?). People shouldn't be discouraged from voicing opposition just because that opposition is unpopular, or because they don't have a rock-solid argument. And really, look at the RfA page right now, then look at the RfA's talk page, and ask yourself: if the talk page stuff were moved back into the RfA page, would that make the page more or less disruptive? Healthier or less healthy? Levivich 18:35, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I certainly remember getting a bit of blowback at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Oshwah 2 from some of the supporters, but in general I have opposed at tens of RfAs without issue. I certainly remember TonyBallioni said "that's fine, no hard feelings" after I opposed at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cameron11598 (and, as you can see, I even badgered a support !voter!) As for why you shouldn't say "I oppose because of my gut feeling", well two reasons: 1) The candidate doesn't get any feedback about how they can improve as an editor 2) If you can claim free speech, other people can claim their right of reply as equal free speech, and that leads to a load of pointless arguing. I took your advice and looked at the RfA's talk page and thought "what an utterly pointless load of dramah and wasting of time that would have been better spent writing the encylopedia". And with that, I'm going to grab my book source for Kenwood House and do a bit more work on it. Have a nice day. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:10, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    You too, Ritchie333. Thanks to SN for lending some room on his talk page. Levivich 19:17, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, I see your problem here. Try something more like: Take care! 😢 Mr rnddude (talk) 19:29, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Here's a nice video about freedom of speech.... Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    DYK for Duke and Duchess of Windsor's tour of Germany, 1937

    On 29 January 2019, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Duke and Duchess of Windsor's tour of Germany, 1937, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that during the Duke and Duchess of Windsor's 1937 tour of Germany (pictured), their alcoholic driver Robert Ley crashed them at speed through a factory gate? You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Duke and Duchess of Windsor's tour of Germany, 1937), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

    Amakuru (talk) 00:01, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Reversing my AfC accept

    Don't reverse my AfC accept like you did on Operation_Höss. That page was ready for G13 when I found. If you really think it should not be in mainspace AfD is that a way but the page is in much better shape than most pages and would never be deleted so should not be sent back to draft. Legacypac (talk) 07:37, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    You don't like being called out on your incompetence, Legacypac, then don't do fucking incompetence in the first place. Expecting me— or anyone, frankly—to take the blindest bit of notice of anything you say merely reiterates the point. ——SerialNumber54129 07:45, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    My incompetence? Wow - a move like the one you made goes against all policy on Draftification. Where would you like to discuss this then? Legacypac (talk) 07:49, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    Arkell vs Pressdram will make profitable reading. ——SerialNumber54129 07:53, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    I never have found out whether Arkell actually profited from that action, or whether it was just the lawyers who gained, as is common. - Sitush (talk) 09:17, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
    (talk page stalker) Eh, eh, eh, eh, eh .... calm down, calm down Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:07, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Singapore Management University Page

    Hello Serial Number 54129 once again, noticed that this page Singapore Management University is written like an advertisement. Need your help please. Thank you. :) — Preceding User:Applepineapple comment added by User:Applepineapple (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:26, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    So it doesn't look like I'm ignoring you

    I got your ping from yesterday, but I think it would be best not to comment in that thread - even to make a little joke of some kind - in the (vain?) hope that if no one else replies further, they'll stopped digging. Ta. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:34, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Percy Glading

    Hello:

    The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Percy Glading has been completed.

    Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

    I have one query re. Note 17 which reads: "At 32 millimetres, this gun, says Burke, "was a significant alteration to existing treaties limiting the size of naval guns"; the Washington Naval Treaty of 1922, between the victors of the World War, had limited their size to 13 inches (330 mm), which was confirmed by a subsequent treaty."[83]

    I applied WP's conversion template to 13 inches which converts to 330 mm. The 32 mm mentioned at the start of the note converts to 1.3 inches. Something is amiss. The 32 mm would appear to be a typo.

    Congratulations on getting this article to Good Article status. Regards,

    Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:01, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    Notability

    Hello Seven of Nine, Tertiary Adjunct of Unimatrix Zero One, you were involved in an AfD whose result presumed notability for all railway stations, just as we previously did for schools. You might be interested in this one: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hapa Road railway station. There are currently 2,800 articles written about the 8,500 railway stations in India. Two thousand of those are stubs and several hundred are single-source sub-stubs. The inclusionists point to Wikipedia:Notability_(Railway_lines_and_stations)#Stations as policy that mandates notability, but I don't read it that way. Rhadow (talk) 15:57, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

    The Signpost: 31 January 2019

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    Lenin Boys: 31 January 2019

    Hi!

    I got quite a shock when your response to my calling a 'death squad' by its name. Your claim that they were supposed to "suppress counterrevolutionary actions" is simply Marxist code for death squad. Their method was to enter a village and immediately hang the nearest person they found. They ran "revolutionary tribunals" and were not in any way better than say, the Cambodian killers. They were a real death squad, no doubt about it. I fail to understand your attempt to whitewash them! vitéz 17:32, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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