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    The Spam-whitelist page is used in conjunction with the Mediawiki SpamBlacklist extension, and lists strings of text that override Meta's blacklist and the local spam-blacklist. Any administrator can edit the spam whitelist. Please post comments to the appropriate section below: Proposed additions (web pages to unblock), Proposed removals (sites to reblock), or Troubleshooting and problems; read the messageboxes at the top of each section for an explanation. See also MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Please enter your requests at the bottom of the Proposed additions to Whitelist section and not at the very bottom of the page. Sign your requests with four tildes: ~~~~

    Also in your request, please include the following:

    1. The link that you want whitelisted in the section title, like === example.com/help/index.php === .
    2. The Wikipedia page on which you want to use the link
    3. An explanation why it would be useful to the encyclopedia article proper
    4. If the site you're requesting is listed at /Common requests, please include confirmation that you have read the reason why requests regarding the site are commonly denied and that you still desire to proceed with your request

    Important: You must provide a full link to the specific web page you want to be whitelisted (leave out the http:// from the front; otherwise you will not be able to save your edit to this page). Requests quoting only a domain (i.e. ending in .com or similar with nothing after the / character) are likely to be denied. If you wish to have a site fully unblocked please visit the relevant section of MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist.

    Note: Do not request links to be whitelisted where you can reasonably suspect that the material you want to link to is in violation of copyright (see WP:LINKVIO). Such requests will likely be summarily rejected.

    There is no automated notification system in place for the results of requests, and you will not be notified when your request has a response. You should therefore add this page to your personal watch list, to your notifications through the subscribe feature, or check back here every few days to see if there is any progress on it; in particular, you should check whether administrators have raised any additional queries or expressed any concerns about the request, as failure to reply to these promptly will generally result in the request being denied.

    Completed requests are archived, additions and removal are logged. →snippet for logging: {{/request|850979227#section_name}}

    Note that requests from new or unregistered users are not usually considered.

    Admins: Use seth's tool to search the spamlists.

    Indicators
    Request completed:
     Done {{Done}}
     Stale {{StaleIP}}
     Request withdrawn {{withdrawn}}
    Request declined:
    no Declined {{Declined}}
     Not done {{Notdone}}
    Information:
     Additional information needed {{MoreInfo}}
    information Note: {{TakeNote}}



    Notice to everyone about our Reliable sources and External links noticeboards

    If you have a source that you would like to add to the spam-whitelist, but you are uncertain that it meets Wikipedia's guideline on reliability, please ask for opinions on the Reliable sources noticeboard, to confirm that it does meet that guideline, before submitting your whitelisting request here. In your request, link to the confirming discussion on that noticeboard.

    Likewise, if you have an external link that you are uncertain meets Wikipedia's guideline on external links, please get confirmation on the External links noticeboard before submitting your whitelisting request here.

    If your whitelist request falls under one of these two categories, the admins will be more willing to have the source whitelisted if you can achieve consensus at one of the above noticeboards.

    Proposed additions to Whitelist (web pages to unblock)


    econlib.org

    I'm really not sure why this site would be on a blacklist. I'm here as I saw a notice on a page I was consulting Gregory King that this domain was blacklisted and I thought I'd try to address that. Ppival (talk) 18:14, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Ppival: no Declined, there are alternatives, e.g. https://mises.org/library/theory-political-economy, and there is no reason to use a link on a site that has an agenda, especially not if there is a paid editing group where the leader has both a clear connection with this site and edits subjects related to econlib. --Dirk Beetstra T C 18:51, 11 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: What is the agenda of the site? And can you be specific about the paid editing group? I haven't noticed the site having an unusual agenda. If it does, it has far less of one than mises.org. I just find the blacklisting of the site bizarre, as Ppival did. --Eharding (talk) 20:56, 25 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Ppival and Eharding: ”Library of Economics and Liberty”, neutral libraries exist (including our own WikiSource in some cases), most universities have the books as well. It is difficult to be specific because most of their edits relating this have been deleted (and a lot of their domains have been blacklisted). See user Vipul’s connections for more info. Any comparison with other sites does not hold unless also they have shown to get into having declared payed editors who create pages related to them.
    I have return questions: why is it so strange (nay: bizarre) that an organisation is involved with payed editors that publish pages about them? Do you really find it strange that respectable organisations feel the urge to be represented on Wikipedia? —Dirk Beetstra T C 06:09, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    bitly.com

    If it is technically possible, I'd like to request an unblock of bitly's homepage, to link to it in the infobox on Bitly. The article currently has an appended ?main, which does not seem canonical, in fact, clicking on the homepage link on bitly gets you to the main page without ?main.

    I read /Common requests and found two sections regarding this requests:

    /Common requests#URL_shorteners: I think this doesn't apply because I only want to unblock the main page of bitly.com.

    /Common requests#The_official_homepage_of_the_subject_of_a_page: I think this applies. "Note that requests to whitelist the domain itself will generally not be honoured, as it would negate the blacklisting and would allow abuse of the homepage (which is sometimes one of the reasons the whole site was blacklisted in the first place). Please find a neutral landing page like the site's "about" or "information" page, and request whitelisting in the usual way." This doesn't seem to be the case for bitly.com, it's blacklisted not because of its content (on homepage or linked pages) but for the shortened URLs.

    -- Heinrich5991 (talk) 17:19, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Heinrich5991: no Declined. “requests to whitelist the domain itself will generally not be honoured, as it would negate the blacklisting”. Your request would do the same, negate the blacklist. We therefore suggest “...a neutral landing page like the site's "about" or "information" page ...” Here, we chose ‘?main’, which actually results in the main page, without having a possibility to be abused. --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:36, 18 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Is it technically impossible to whitelist the mainpage but not any subpages? -- Heinrich5991 (talk) 15:50, 22 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Heinrich5991: it is technically possible, but for many sites that link itself is the reason for blacklisting. I therefore do not see why we need to go through the extra bureaucracy here. —Dirk Beetstra T C 05:07, 23 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Beetstra: Ok, so the reason for the decline isn't [“requests to whitelist the domain itself will generally not be honoured, as it would negate the blacklisting”. Your request would do the same, negate the blacklist.] but that we don't want to go through bureaucracy. OK. -- Heinrich5991 (talk) 10:51, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Heinrich5991: No, for many other sites, doing the technically possible whitelisting of the top domain would negate the blacklisting. That is also true here, though the chances of encountering abuse may be smaller here - different type of ‘abuse’. Whitelisting the top could be abused through a technical backdoor (but that anyway), an ‘about’ has less of such problems on all. —Dirk Beetstra T C 12:34, 26 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    bitcointalk.org

    BitcoinTalk is an historical reference of the early days of Bitcoin's development. The domain has been blacklisted due to spam. As the site contains the original source of much of the reference material used in ongoing Bitcoin and cryptocurrency research and debates the whitelisting of at least parts of the site would be the only way to add canonical references to associated Wikipedia articles. In this case I am requesting only one page for a simple reference of an existing direct quote from Satoshi Nakamoto on the Daniel Larimer wikipedia page. --Opacey (talk) 08:40, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Opacey: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 09:22, 20 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]


    tmall.aliexpress.com

    Tmall works in Russia for some time, but they use a different domain name - the subdomain of aliexpress.com - in this country for some reason. I was going to add the mentioning of their operations in Russia.

    DestructibleTimes (talk) 09:09, 29 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    quickcompany.in

    In the infobox of Pears (soap); to a add reference for a trademark registration of Pears in India where the product is primarily sold. The Indian Patent Office does not directly link trademark registrations, this URL readily provides the TM details from IPO data. Gotitbro (talk) 13:02, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    Gotitbro Why does the patent even need to be linked? It seems silly to unlist that website when there are hundreds of similar websites providing the same (irrelevant) information. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:23, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    @Chrissymad: Its a trademark not a patent, trademark registrations let us know the markets where the brand might be operating hence its inclusion in "Infobox brand". I have already provided a WIPO reference for other countries where the brand is registered but unfortunately WIPO does not list Indian trademarks. I don't think there is any harm in whitelisting a single link for this and I cant find other "hundreds of similar websites" which provide the same detailed info.Gotitbro (talk) 14:39, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    If it can only be sourced to this specific website, then it probably shouldn't be included. I don't see the encyclopedic relevance. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 14:40, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
    I never said this was the only website with that information. It is the one which has this info in a good presentable format. Here are others websites with the info but as can be seen they aren't as detailed:
    I only opened this request as I found the URL to be really useful for the subject matter in hand. Gotitbro (talk) 18:11, 1 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    infowars.com

    The infowars.com site is blacklisted. I could not find it in the spamblacklist, but my article I was editing would not post unless I remove the reference. This reference to the infowars.com site is an article which features an array of excerpts from various media outlets all reporting on the same story. It is not fake news and whatnot. Many of the sources in that article have archived the story and this is the best source for the reporting on the incident being referenced, an arrest at an airport for putting stickers on a plane. StrictlyRebel (talk) 20:49, 15 July 2018 (UTC) Strictlyrebel[reply]

    @StrictlyRebel: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 04:35, 16 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    cheng.guru

    The entire .guru TLD has been blacklisted (which seems nonsensical and unusually heavy-handed). The links to site as whole and the specific entry belongs to the original author and creator of the software framework, and is relevant to the corrections and complementary information I wish to add to the article. Leffmann (talk) 07:19, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

    @Leffmann: plus Added to MediaWiki:Spam-whitelist. --Dirk Beetstra T C 07:52, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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