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==RM==
Hey Drmies, how have you been? The RM on [[Bojana (river)]] has been open since February 23, but nobody has come to close or relist it. If time permits, can you see if there is anything wrong with how it was filed? Maybe it just happens that nobody has been interested in closing it, though I have never seen an RM stay open so long without being relisted. [[User:Ktrimi991|Ktrimi991]] ([[User talk:Ktrimi991|talk]]) 01:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

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February music

story · music · places

Today I am happy about a singer on the Main page (at least for the first hours), after TFA the same day last year. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 7 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks to Seiji Ozawa. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:45, 12 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The image, taken on a cemetery last year after the funeral of a distant but dear family member, commemorates today, with thanks for their achievements, four subjects mentioned on the Main page and Vami_IV, a friend here. Listen to music by Tchaikovsky (an article where one of the four is pictured), sung by today's subject (whose performance on stage I enjoyed two days ago). --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Music, something I know a little more about than literature. The Tchaikovsky song is lovely. However, I'm a bit confused about the Kelsey Lauritano article you created. It says in the lead that she's "Japanese-American", and her website, along with a bunch of other bios from places where she's sung or been repeat it, but there is no support in the article for the dual nationality. I assume one or both of her parents is/was Japanese? That needs to be mentioned along with a source for it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:30, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Give me one and I use it. If she doesn't know who would? - I haven't yet added Suzuki to her achievements: very authentic and lovely. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:37, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Forgive me, but that's not how it works. Such a claim has to be supported by a reliable source. I would even stretch it to self-sourced (her website) if on the website it provides something that supports the claim, but she has almost no personal biographical data on her site. Unrelated question: why on earth does her homepage look like that of a sex kitten? Is that what PR people recommend to young classical singers these days? Stupid.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:45, 20 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Bbb23, I went to check it out because, you know--but indeed, what an odd photo. Drmies (talk) 13:29, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Listen to music from Ukraine if you like, - I heard it in 2022, and the November concert (at a different church) raised a truckload of winter clothes. My story today is also from my life: I heard the singer in 3 of the 4 mentioned musical items. I sang in yesterday's. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:46, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not exactly sure what I'm listening to, Gerda Arendt, but I'm listening. Drmies (talk) 13:28, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • OK parts of it are really touching. The song where they're pretending to do trumpets is hilarious. Drmies (talk) 13:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you for listening! They had to arrange many pieces because 2 altos and men are a "cruel" ensemble, but the other women had to stay with their families because their husbands were drafted --- more music and flowers on Rossini's rare birthday --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:42, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alert

Did you see this [1]? Also commented on at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#bnnbreaking.com_?. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:19, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Do me a favor, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, and email the Trust and Safety team real quick. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 17:21, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Done. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:30, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • And they wrote a new article! I quote: "At least five usernames: Drmies, Gråbergs Gråa Sång, David Gerard, Ravensfire, and DanielMichaelPerry. have been linked to negative edits and attempts to lock the BNN Breaking page, effectively controlling the narrative."
    • Ping @David Gerard, @Ravensfire and @DanielMichaelPerry. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:46, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Well that would be the first time I ever got to control a narrative. Drmies (talk) 19:50, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • At least they got the spelling right! Given the accuracy issues, I'm giving them a big thumbs on for not screwing up everything. Ravensfire (talk) 20:00, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • and I didn't even comment on the RSN entry! - David Gerard (talk) 22:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your comment at AE

Definitely considering most of it. But for now, while New York is definitely on my travel list at some point, if you or Acroterion ever find yourself in Belfast, drop me a buzz and I'll show you the best place in the city for a Guinness, if that takes your fancy :) Sideswipe9th (talk) 03:53, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that note there. I appreciate the sentiment, and the discussion you wanted to see happen is actually happening at Josh's talk. I actually thought a lot last night about my level of contribution here both to content and policy, the amount of effort/devotion to the project it has involved, and how big a part of my life it's been. I was rather alarmed by Sideswipe9th's suggestion that the bare observaton that PoV pushers exist and will push PoVs, on both sides of a topic, is "assuming bad faith" about other editors. If that interpretation were actually accepted and enforced, I would have to simply resign on the spot, because it would paint a target on me bigger than Alaska. It is literally not possible for someone involved in WP policy formation or editing any but the most non-controversial topics on the planet to never observe the fact of the existence of PoV pushing. I would probably be nuked within the first day, and I would not give anyone the satisfaction.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  19:57, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
User:SMcCandlish, I didn't read anything in that report and did not see that remark; I imagine Sideswipe9th might argue there was a context. I do agree with you, of course, on the ubiquity of POV pushers, in all aspects of the project; the infobox wars come to mind. Some people have too much good faith--I have a colleague with too much of it, to the point where it's meaningless. As a side note, I follow Depthsofwikipedia on Instagram, it's a funny account, and today I saw someone take a swipe at Volunteer Marek, accusing him of pushing an American neoliberal agenda. Such editors, if that person indeed is one, are not the dangerous ones, of course, cause they're obviously crazy. Sideswipe9th, I sure hope to make it to your island before I die, and if I do I will call on you--thanks. Drmies (talk) 21:16, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I imagine Sideswipe9th might argue there was a context. Yes, and that context is specific to the circumstances of SMcCandlish as I elaborated in this comment. But I don't want to drag that here, SMcCandlish if you want to discuss that context further away from AE, my talk page is open :)
Drmies, here's hoping you get to make it over. Just, if you do, remember to bring a coat or umbrella. Even our couple of days of summer have a tendency to be wet, though the last couple of years they've also been unbearably warm. Sideswipe9th (talk) 23:04, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Will do.  — SMcCandlish ¢ 😼  23:11, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'm Dutch; I can handle some rain. ;) My brother visited Ireland years ago and he loved it. Drmies (talk) 01:03, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Long time, no talk

Howdy--hope you're doing well as can be expected in a red state in 2024; at least you don't have Bill Lee as governor. Anyway, I'm hoping to jump back into creating some articles from all of my little red links--just wanted to see if anything sticks out to you because I'm having trouble picking one. All best! Icarus of old (talk) 15:43, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm extra careful when I get eggs at the grocery store, yes. Well, I think a Ghanaian folk song should go first! Good luck! Drmies (talk) 18:10, 25 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sandra

For some reason, I still have your Sandra's page open alongside ISBN 9780857287427. According to https://www.hngreenphd.com/uploads/1/3/3/7/133742098/stovall_documentarychapter.pdf , by the way, you should go and see a big block of metal at F and D Auto Repair. Uncle G (talk) 16:48, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • We do have a really bad article on Russian jokes. Interesting document--though I can't easily tell exactly what it is; it's not a dissertation chapter I think. How do you find such stuff? That chunk of metal--I've seen it a time or two, and took a class of students there a few weeks ago. By now it's not about seeing anymore: by now it's time for action, and the city/county should claim that block of metal and give it a prominent place in the city. There was talk of that, a bit, a year or two ago, but nothing's happened yet. Not one of those blocks have been claimed. Drmies (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Doktoro, you have been running the English Professor Vacuum for years now, and you have never changed the dust filters. The amount of static charge that has built up at this point not only makes my hair stand on end similar to this, but it also pulls in to my Bing searches not-English flotsam and jetsam such as Scottish professors of Russian jokes, writing papers for a July 2000 conference on Russian jokes held at the institute for Russian jokes. And, oddly, drawing pins. Uncle G (talk) 18:02, 27 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • The existence of Top Secret Portable Documents about the deaths of soldiers in the upload section of that WWW site, I can only attribute to WikiLeaks, as nothing on the WWW site points to them that I can find. Hilary N. Green 'blogs about mustard but no longer associates with professors in Alabarmy, so maybe xe does not know and should be told about Top Secret Portable Documents appearing to the world on that WWW site. Uncle G (talk) 10:49, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

The Special Barnstar
For your edits on cleaning up the Academy of Allied Health & Science article. Thank you! My Pants Metal (talk) 13:40, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Talkpage disruption? It's possible

Howdy. Concerning the related discussions at List of presidents of the United States & Joe Biden. I'm hoping the editor's pushing of Biden is the 45th not 46th US president argument, is partially a WP:CIR issue & not a self-entertainment one. GoodDay (talk) 17:38, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe sock puppet

Hi Drmies. I think 98.30.252.213 is Scurvy Sevi. Quick transition on Anne Hathaway's page (constant filth). Bringingthewood (talk) 01:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

LOL, I love the tone in that message! You got it and thank you. - Bringingthewood (talk) 01:10, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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DYK for Jewish cemetery, Hoorn

On 4 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Jewish cemetery, Hoorn, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Jewish cemetery in the Dutch city of Hoorn was cleared in 1968 to make room for a roadway, and the bodily remains and gravestones removed to the public cemetery? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Jewish cemetery, Hoorn. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Jewish cemetery, Hoorn), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Z1720 (talk) 00:02, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tapping out on a new contributor

Dear Drmies: I kindly ask for help from you and/or your friendly talk-page watchers to take a look the contributions from User:Hichem872642, including at the Teahouse a couple of weeks ago. I am under a lot of IRL stress right now (capped off by the Sierra storm this past weekend that ripped off much of the outer layer of my roof! At least it wasn't a tornado! But still!) and I recognize that their invocation of the word "engaging" in their most recent response to me on their talk page is something I can't constructively respond to right now. I am grateful for Wikipedia not requiring me to be being "assigned to a case" so I can turn it over to others for multiple opinions. Thanks so much. Hope all is well. - Julietdeltalima (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Each of their edits to three articles, Apple sauce, Negimaki, and Coffee cake, share a similar tone reminding me of a Food Network, Public Television cooking show or a food advert. Definitely not an encyclopedic tone. I can see why Julietdeltalima suspected an AI was involved, though the user denies using AI. And two other editors posted notes on Hichem872642's Talk page about their edits, so it's definitely not something only Julietdeltalima is seeing. My hope is that these represent growing pains for this new editor of two weeks' tenure. Anyone else care to weigh on with suggestions for steering them right? Geoff | Who, me? 22:57, 4 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the next thing to do is ask the editor why they flipped the tortoise on its back. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:43, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I only wish AI had come a few years later--closer to my retirement from teaching. I dread teaching online classes now, for instance. Drmies (talk) 15:45, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would be nice if they combined the plagiarism and AI detector into a single action. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:55, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

197.132.164.199

I am suspecting 197.132.164.199 as a block evasion sock, is there a way to stop this guy from block evading? AlphaBetaGamma (Talk/Report any mistakes here) 03:35, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • No. Well you could kill him, but that's not legal, and I don't believe in the death penalty. Don't revert--just report at AIV or on IRC. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:36, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Remember that article? Again being inexorably fattened up. An organ donor! 25 books, wonderful reviews! I've just removed a few bits. Bishonen | tålk 22:09, 5 March 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Such an odd edit for an account created 6 November 2023 with two edits, both 5 March 2024, one to the Yanklowitz article as Bish describes and one to Mexican cuisine with vast overlinking, since reverted by another editor. The methods are inscrutable, the proof is irrefutable - there's no tellin' where the money went. Geoff | Who, me? 22:27, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
NOOOO. Lemme guess. Young Jewish guy, did a thing or two--is he blondish and curlish? I don't even want to look at it. Drmies (talk) 02:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK I was wrong about the curls. Drmies (talk) 02:11, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Query

Hello, Drmies,

I was hoping you could give me your perspective on a new editor, Fhektii. They have been editing for a couple of weeks, less than 200 edits and today they spend lots of time draftifying articles because of suspected "UPE". This just doesn't seem like an activity a new editor would even know about or spend time on much less know that we identify it by "UPE". I have asked them about any previous accounts they might have used but I rarely get a reply to that query.

I'm not asking for any phishing but I'm hoping since you've been doing this longer than I that you could give me your opinion on whether this is a returning editor or just a precocious, helpful new editor. Many thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 22:58, 5 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) They've been blocked by Ponyo: User_talk:Fhektii#Previous_accounts. Your concerns were right on, apparently. Cheers! Geoff | Who, me? 00:25, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Geoff,
Thanks for the update. I don't think many people review the Move log but I see questionable behavior there on a daily basis. Moving articles and drafts around seems to be one of the first things that editors try out after they are auto-confirmed and it is often an early tell-tale sign of a returning editor. Right now, there is a newer editor who moves dozens of articles each day that I have suspicions about but without CU goggles, I can only keep an eye on them as they seem like good faith editing. I try not to come to User talk pages for CUers unless I'm fairly positive as phishing is discouraged. But draftifying main space articles for UPE reasons is just not something a new editor would even know about and I saw Drmies was active today so I came here. Liz Read! Talk! 02:34, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Liz--I'll cop to "present" but not necessarily to "active". Please feel free to make a case for me putting my glasses on any time. Drmies (talk) 02:39, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youth cred

Now that M. Star Mississippi has just outed xyrself as a Tik-Toker with a "timeline" on the Administrators' Noticeboard, I can give you a source that indicates that your search of M. Binksternet will be in vain, and some more Tik-Tok dance videos for the three of you to watch and mutually support your youth cred statuses.

Since the split, EMI have issued a number of compilations of Talk Talk stuff, but there's a limit to the number of times any material can be recycled without degradation. Their latest venture is a 28-track collection of virtually every mix ever released of every single they did for the label. Asides & Besides (1998) had […] gave it rarity value. London 1986 (1999) recorded at the Hammersmith Odeon, cxaptured the essence of the band's live performance and included most of their crowd-pleasers from the Colour Of Spring period plus "Such a Shame" and "It's My Life".

— Underwood, Robin (2003). "Talk Talk". In Buckley, Peter (ed.). The Rough Guide to Rock. Music Guides. Rough Guides. pp. 1050–1052. ISBN 9781858284576., p.1051

Talk Talk - Hammersmith Odeon - 08/05/1986 (As broadcast by the BBC) on YouTube

This BBC Radio 1 In Concert thing, Doktoro: Was this some sort of AM pirate radio station broadcast across international waters that you picked up on your transistor radio in Gallifrey? Neither Wikipedia nor this book have helped to explain this music-in-mono thing to me.

  • Garner, Ken (1993). In Session Tonight: The Complete Radio 1 Recordings. BBC Books. ISBN 9780563364528.

I'm confused by other books saying that your pirate radio programmes were recorded in Paris not in Hammersmith like you said, Doktoro.

This was still in use for Radio 1's In Concert recordings in the 1970s, and for BBC radio comedy shows right up to the mid-1990s; today it's a gym club, and where the auditorium was is now an indoor swimming pool.

— Garner, Ken (2010). The Peel Sessions: A story of teenage dreams and one man's love of new music. Random House. ISBN 9781409074830., p.26

Perhaps you, M. BInternets, and M. Mississississippi can explain all of this geographic confusion and why you, Doktoro, are trying to get music-in-mono from what is clearly and verifiably a gym club, replete with Tik-Tok dancing people. If the three of you do not, I warn, someone might nominate Paris for deletion given that that article is visibly false. There are even pictures of the gym being repaired after The Blitz, on Google Maps.

Is this swimming pool like those canals in Amsterdam that the Tijme Loords have given you fake childhood memories of? Using the same name for the author is a bit of a giveaway. The Tijme Loords should have been more inventive. Although they have gone to some great effort with this back-story of you listening to music-in-mono off pirate radio, even going so far as to invent a whole fictitious country.

  • Garner, Ken (2008). "Radio and popular music". In Blain, N.; Hutchison, D. (eds.). The Media in Scotland. Edinburgh University Press. pp. 166–180.

Uncle G (talk) 07:51, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Hmm a lot to ponder here. First of all, I'm not a fan of Dr. Who, and Doctorin' the Tardis--well, I like their later stuff. The Hammersmith location is from the cover of the album: OR, I know. I also got a CD with a show in the motherland, where he attempts some Dutch; perhaps he does something similar on the album, I can't remember, and it might give a clue. An OR kind of clue, of course. I trust you listened to this BBC show all the way through, and I assume you have the entire Talk Talk discography--after all, you are a civilized person. What a tight live act they were! Watching the drummer is fun (I assume you have the Montreux VHS/DVD): the man believes in what he's doing, though I kind of wish he believed in wearing a shirt. Wait--Scotland is fictitious now? Drmies (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Of course Scotland is fictitious! Unless of course that Highland game depicted in Braveheart where they stood about 15 paces apart and threw rocks at each other's forehead until one of them was the last man standing was real. Geoff | Who, me? 17:24, 6 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • It's worse than that; it's an excellent example of how one lie can become wildly out of hand as more and more is required to support it.

        In order to convince Doktoro that xe really did listen in mono (hard to believe, I know) to pirate AM radio stations, as the false memories that they have implanted say, the Tijme Loords concocted this D'Ye Ken person to be the author of these books on John Peel and the like that Doktoro can consult to check the veracity of the memories. Dokotoro can read D'Ye Ken's books and find that yes, there were indeed music-in-mono bands named Talk Talk, Duran Duran (a name that the Tijme Loords took from Barbarella (band)), and the like.

        Unfortunately, they concocted a fictional place named "Glasgow" for this person's university, and then decided that xe wouldn't use its own publishing house and invented another place named "Edinbrough" for that. In consequence of these mistakes they were required to make a significant expansion of the back-story to include the invention of an entire country for "Glasgow" and "Edinbrough" to be a part of. They populated it with a fanciful people who have funny hair and make music out of sheep's intestines, it seems.

        Alas, in yet another mistake they created a conlang for these fictional people, and even taught Doktoro to moan in it. This caused yet another back-story headache that required the creation of a whole Wikipedia in that language. At this point, this is getting to Truman Show levels of deception all to make sure that Doktoro didn't cotton on to the lie of the AM pirate radio music-in-mono broadcasts. Of course since it had been, that Wikipedia looked like it had been written in a conlang, the normal English of Known Space with a moaning accent.

        The Tijme Loords's quite clever explanation of that, as they finally learned not to exacerbate the problem by multiplying the falsehoods, was to say that yes it was written in a conlang by a citizen of Known Space, a cover story that you will find more on at Scots Wikipedia#Controversy.

        And all because Doktoro mi estas is not allowed to know who xe really is.

        Uncle G (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • As an old, I uh think I might need some context here @Drmies @Uncle G. I do appreciate the humor though Star Mississippi 03:22, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • Doktoro has been trying for the youth cred again by writing about records so new that they haven't been reviewed yet. See Force of Nature (Talk Talk album), before it was redirected on the grounds of public safety. Xe has been trying to recruit M. BInternets to assist in finding better sources than Find-A-Grave at User talk:Binksternet. All of this whilst Paris does not explain how it is at wild variance with Google Streetview and BBC Radio 1 Live In Concert does not explain anything at all to the likes of me who try to support Doktoro's eternal quest for youth cred however we can. Uncle G (talk) 05:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Radio Veronica is a terrible, terrible article in terms of referencing though I don't really doubt its content. I don't know if they were mono or stereo; I remember, vaguely, when they were pulled off the air (out of the sea?), though what I remember best is a song, "Veronica sorry"--ha, I only just learned that it was by Peter Koelewijn. I never knew the lyrics but I remember the catchy verse. Ah the romance of radio. I'll have to play my way through Category:Songs about radio one day. Does anyone still listen to The Blasters? Isn't "Border Radio" one of the best songs EVER? I love that verse. 50,000 Watts out of Mexico! Now I remember how I know that song: a live show, on VPRO radio, that I taped--yes, Uncle, on compact cassette. Drmies (talk) 15:20, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Here they're playing in the old folks home, for me and my buddy Nils--this time with a juicy solo on a Les Paul. Drmies (talk) 15:21, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Possible sock?

Hi there. I'm starting to think that Chusada25 is a sock of Husada28. Would you mind giving it a look? Anwegmann (talk) 04:09, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • They're already blocked, right? The Wordsmith, do you see the need for a sock sweep? Drmies (talk) 14:25, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't think there's any need for that, it was quacking into a megaphone since nearly all their accounts use the same naming conventions. I doubt running a CU would tell us anything that Special:ListUsers didn't when I checked that yesterday for new accounts.
      But on a related note with sockmasters using identical usernames, could you maybe take a second look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Timelash? Not saying a CU needs to be run, just look at the filers of the cases. Timelash seems to love attention and getting blocked quickly; two of the three editors that have reported Timelash are IPs that seem like VPNs. Damned odd that an IP would catch them so quickly (twice) and report accurately, I wouldn't be shocked if Timelash was reporting itself. The WordsmithTalk to me 16:03, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hmm that would be super sad. But that goes over my head quickly--I see Spicy blocked the most recent range, and they're smarter than me. Drmies (talk) 15:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Strange: I just saw that Ravensfire has also been getting IP assistance for an SPI. Drmies (talk) 15:35, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • It was odd - only edit from that IP and the CIDR range from a whois check had a few edits in Indian television, but nothing really in the Indian politics area. Still, 3 excellent diffs aren't something I'll turn down. Ravensfire (talk) 15:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • Ravensfire I just noticed you don't actually have a user page. Can I just post a picture of Nick Saban on your talk page? I mean, you gotta have one. Drmies (talk) 16:08, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            Tempting ... but the drama from some of my out of state family ... Ravensfire (talk) 16:34, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The 31.218.86.208 guy probably evades his ban

He was blocked in the evening of yesterday. He was edit-warring regarding the infobox photo at Leon Trotsky prior to getting blocked and now I saw that some other IP address (84.32.71.105) with a single edit history made the exact same edit this morning (it's morning here) at - you guessed it - Leon Trotsky. Without writing anything in the edit summary. I suppose this one will continue with edit-warring and disruptive behavior. I wrote them to start a RfC in talk page before unilaterally changing the already-established photo. This is how it was done with Stalin's and Lenin's photos which were changed via a RfC few months ago. I wrote the same thing to 31.218.86.208 and they absolutely ignored this and I'm sure this IP will too, esp. if they're the same person, which I highly assume. GreatLeader1945 TALK 08:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Right now the only edit warrior is you. Drmies (talk) 14:23, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wait--are you seriously informing me that "He was blocked in the evening of yesterday"? So, BEFORE you placed that warning there? And did you, ahem, happen to notice WHO blocked that editor? Drmies (talk) 14:29, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Drmies You do not have a single comment anywhere in our communication that makes any sense, I swear! And again, you keep ignoring everything I address. That's a totally unacceptable administrator behavior. GreatLeader1945 TALK 15:49, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Hmm you probably missed "i got it, and there is no such thing as a permanent block for IPs" ("I got it" because I had littterally just blocked the editor). There is no such thing as a permanent block for IPs, except for in very rare circumstances, which you can read about in WP:IPBLENGTH--note where it says, in bold print, IP addresses should almost never be indefinitely blocked. You said "such an IP can't edit alone on Wikipedia if one doesn't make accounts as sockpuppets", which may be grammatically correct but semantically incoherent. As for the 84.32.71.105 IP--they geolocate to a very different place, and while that doesn't mean everything you'd still have to present a pretty good argument for why you think they're the same person, an argument you can make at WP:SPI--but an SPI case which asks for two IPs to be investigated is not likely to go anywhere. But what do I know! By all means, take it to a noticeboard--just make sure you provide popcorn. Drmies (talk) 16:26, 7 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

On Luming Lu

Hi Drmies! I noticed your edits to the article on Luming Lu, and I understand that you made them in good faith. However, I am currently working on the article about Lu's sister, and I intentionally included the description in the infobox so that I can easily add the link later. If you take a closer look at the article, you'll see that I have already included an interlanguage link to the Chinese version of Jenny Lu. This indicates that: A, I am working on the red link, and B, it shows that the subject of the article is not non-notable. Therefore, I kindly request that you leave a message on the talk page first before making any changes to my edits next time. Thanks and cheers! Prince of EreborThe Book of Mazarbul 00:04, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Eh, User:Prince of Erebor, I did indeed make these edits in good faith, and you could have easily prevented all this by leaving an edit summary to explain what you were doing. In the meantime, it would have been nice if you had acknowledged that indeed we should not have non-notable people listed in infoboxes. As for ease of editing--well, you could have stuck in the links to begin with, so you'd have a red link, and said, in an edit summary, "this will turn blue in a minute". Anyway, thanks for writing her up. No, I do not believe that people should leave talk page notices for other editors if they're going to edit an article. Drmies (talk) 01:30, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • I have included the description in the article since its creation. So, A, it is not feasible for me to provide an explanation for every single word I have included in an article, and B, I did not anticipate anyone intervening as I promptly moved on to writing the next article to avoid an unnecessarily long hiatus. Anyway, I acknowledge that your edits were made in good faith, and I want to emphasize that I am not trying to start an argument. The purpose of leaving this message on your talk page is solely to clarify any misunderstandings that may have arisen. I appreciate your work on new page patrolling as well. Cheers!--Prince of EreborThe Book of Mazarbul 05:32, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You may wish to revoke TPA. Cahk (talk) 08:33, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yeah I saw that, thanks. Did you like my possums? Drmies (talk) 14:48, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

someone you may know

Any idea who is behind this [2]? Meters (talk) 08:43, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Could it be Gotye? Geoff | Who, me? 14:45, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Meh it's probably the Nephilim or the Tartarians. Eight months? What a strange choice. Drmies (talk) 14:49, 8 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category expert

Hey, who's a category expert (and also an admin)? I used to go to BrownHairedGirl for questions, but... --Bbb23 (talk) 17:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I remember the LadyofShalott used to play around with HotCat... Drmies (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    • She doesn't edit much. I need someone who's currently active.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:35, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
      • Liz, maybe? Drmies (talk) 18:39, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
        • Now that's a thought, no one can accuse her of not being active. :-) So, Liz, if you received Drmies's ping and you have a moment, I outlined the issue at User talk:TSventon#Categories. Thanks, Drmies, and thanks in advance, Liz.--Bbb23 (talk) 18:46, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
          • You know I had to stick my nose in. This retaliatory report, in response to the report above it, and this exchange here where Acroterion was trying their best, is evidence enough of an uncollegial attitude. Then (after that) is an awful RfC on Talk:Foreign_Secretary (currently the next-to-last section), followed by another which shows the editor to be out of touch, besides having an amazing verbosity which also hinders their grammar. Have we eaten on the insane root that takes the reason prisoner? Drmies (talk) 18:59, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
            • Yeah, even if the current block is not justified, it's no big loss to the project to block such an editor. Thanks for the links.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:13, 9 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi... looks like y'all have it well in hand now, but let me know if I can be helpful. I'm around more than I was for a good while (albeit less than I have been at other times). LadyofShalott 13:38, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ervin Demo

Again, I didn't look deep enough into the sourcing but wanted to let you know about this as there is an obvious COI. CNMall41 (talk) 18:30, 11 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sanity check

Hi, Doc (and any friendly TPSes)! I and a few others have been dealing with a...persistent editor on Talk:Leo Frank, and I just wanted to get a sanity check on the merits (or lack thereof) of the issue at hand. I don't know how much this is up your alley, but figured you'd at least be passingly familiar with the historical event; can you confirm or deny my impression that it is uncontroversial that the historical consensus is that Frank was wrongfully convicted? Thanks, Writ Keeper  13:20, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't much care about the merits. I've indeffed the user.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
"Now that's what I call, Ballin' the Jack!" ——Serial Number 54129 13:58, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Serial, that sounds really obscene--in our English anyway. Drmies (talk) 17:00, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just an ole song, Drmies! :( ——Serial Number 54129 17:43, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wait. Obama sold his brother's soul to Satan? Well well, that explains a lot. Drmies (talk) 17:02, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bingo!

Very well said. That wording should be added to the PAG. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:12, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bongo! S0091 (talk) 19:15, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

RM

Hey Drmies, how have you been? The RM on Bojana (river) has been open since February 23, but nobody has come to close or relist it. If time permits, can you see if there is anything wrong with how it was filed? Maybe it just happens that nobody has been interested in closing it, though I have never seen an RM stay open so long without being relisted. Ktrimi991 (talk) 01:38, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]