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== New reports ==
== New reports ==

==={{User|Thulean}} ===
For spamming my User talk page, despite repeated requests of not doing, so with victimism and threats of "you'll be blocked" [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sugaar&diff=prev&oldid=86354400 diff 1], [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Sugaar&diff=prev&oldid=86527801 diff 2]. These two at least are totally unjustified as I have not used the forbidden words or even talked to him at all since Shell Keney warned me.
This case is directly connected with the one below. --[[User:Sugaar|Sugaar]] 06:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

==={{User|Sugaar}}===
Reopening the case, that is not clearly closed: relevant history: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3APersonal_attack_intervention_noticeboard&diff=86476309&oldid=86463334 diff].
Shell Keney archived it, some time after warning me, while I was clearly appealing the removal of the warn. However other administrators (Durova, Luna Santin) considered it was just a content dispute and that there was no insult.
I want therefore the warn removed or at least clearly reviewed. I cannot be sure if I am warned or I am clean. This is very important specially as Thulean is harassing me each time I open my mouth, no matter I don't use the "forbidden" (or rather disputed) words.
I want a clear sentence: I want to know if the warn is valid or if it's not due to lack of consensus between administrators. --[[User:Sugaar|Sugaar]] 06:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
Most relevant (and contraditcory) administrator interventions:
*'''''Calling another editor a nazi, regardless of whether you think it is true, is completely unacceptable. If you continue, you may be blocked for [[WP:NPA|personal attacks]]'''. Please find a more civil way to discuss your concerns about the article. [[User:Shell_Kinney|Shell]] <sup>[[User_talk:Shell_Kinney|babelfish]]</sup> 19:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)'' (Poster at [[User talk:Sugaar]])
*'''''Administrator blows referee whistle''' - This is not the place to debate ideology. Per the instructions at the top of this noticeboard, page diffs are required for reports here - not unsupported allegations or links to Wikipedia discussions. '''I did a search on Yahoo and did find Nazi websites that use "Thulean" and "Thule" in their titles, so - strong as the statement from Sugaar was - it appears to be fact-based and valid.''' There are two sides to [[WP:CIVIL]] and [[WP:NPA]] that apply to this particular discussion: first, standards of civility at Wikipedia do not depend on what ideology an editor holds; second, '''discourse on certain sensitive topics may require the judicious use of terms that would otherwise be eschewed as hot button and inflammatory (such as when the topic at hand actually is Nazism and racism)'''. This noticeboard cannot mediate a content dispute. It ''can'' evaluate and take appropriate actions in response to personal attacks. <font face="Verdana">[[User:Durova|<span style="color:#009">Durov</span>]][[WP:EA|<span style="color:#0c0">a</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Durova|''Charge!'']]</sup></font> 23:04, 7 November 2006 (UTC)'' (posted here before hasty archive)
Bold types are mine, in order to emphasize the contradicting resolutions.
Also I noticed that [[WP:Etiquette]] is not an official policy but just a '''guideline''' (though some people seem to have been POV-pushing it into an official policy with repeated reverts to guideline status, what may have caused confussion). --[[User:Sugaar|Sugaar]] 07:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)




==={{User|John Spikowski}}===
==={{User|John Spikowski}}===

Revision as of 10:36, 9 November 2006


    This page is intended to get attention quickly when dealing with personal attacks. It is not intended to serve as a form of mediation or a type of RFC. Only Personal attacks are dealt with on this page, on their own merits in accordance with Wikipedia's No Personal Attacks policy

    For editors who want a personal attack situation reviewed:

    1. Consider that in most cases, ignoring the attack is better than requesting sanction against the attacker. Do not report people if you are likewise guilty of hostility towards them.
    2. Make sure the user has actually commited a personal attack. (Please note that "personal attacks" are defined only under the WP:NPA policy. If a statement is not considered a personal attack under the intended spirit of this policy, it does not belong here.)
    3. The editor must have been warned earlier. The {{npa2}}, and {{npa3}} templates may be appropriate for new users; for long-term editors, it's preferable to write something rather than using a standard template. Reports of unwarned editors may be removed.
    4. If the behavior hasn't stopped, add the following header to the New Reports section of this page in the following format:
      ==={{User|NAME OF USER}}=== replacing NAME OF USER with the user name or IP address concerned, with a brief reason for listing below. Be sure to include diffs.
    5. If an editor removes the IP or username and doesn't handle the matter to your satisfaction, take it to the editor's talk page or the administrators' noticeboard, but do not re-list the user here.
    6. NB - Due to misunderstanding of these instructions and/or mis-use of this process, comments not in strict adhereance to these instructions WILL be removed. This page deals only with personal attacks under the policy WP:NPA. Reports deemed to be inappropriate for this page are liable to be moved to an appropriate venue where one exists.


    For those reported on this page:

    1. A reviewer or an administrator will review each report on this page. In dealing with the report, the contribution history of the reported user shall be checked along with the diffs provided in the report. Where no personal attack is evident, then no action will be taken - however, should an administrator see that another seperate issue is evident, appropriate action or advice for that issue may be taken/given at his or her discretion and in line with wiki policy.
    2. Reports on this page stand on their own merits in accordance with Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. As such, disputes and discussions over reports are not suitable for this page except for such comments left by admins or reviewers describing their actions and/or findings. If you notice your account reported at this page, please trust that the administrators and reviewers dealing with reports will deal with it in an even-handed and fair manner on the basis of policy alone. If you feel strongly that another "side to the story", issue, or another piece of information is missing from a report please refrain from posting here, and instead leave your comment on your talk page under the title NPA Report or another other clear and related title. The reviewing party will see this message and take it into account where applicable.

    For users handling assistance requests:

    1. For each of the users linked here, open their contributions and check for personal attacks. Also check if the users have been sufficiently warned for the current personal attack and whether they've continued to commit personal attacks after being warned.
    2. Note that there is an important difference between a user who makes many good contributions and a few personal attacks, and a user whose last edits are (nearly) all personal attacks or other conflict.
    3. Do nothing, warn them again, or, if you are an adminstrator, block the user in question as you think is required. Explain things carefully to the user who listed the attacker if you feel there's been a misunderstanding.
    4. Move the report to the Open Reports section and give an update to the status of the report.
    5. Delete old reports that have been dealt with.

    Please consider adding this page to your watchlist to make life easier for non-administrator RC-patrollers.


    New reports

    John Spikowski (talk · contribs)

    This user threatened me and others in the past and got several admin warnings [1], [2], [3] including a Personal Attacks - Last Warning [4]. He was quiet for a month now but his last contributions attacked a bot [5] and myself [6] with threaten me that I get banned from Wikipedia and charging me for issues that I have never done and that are clearly outside of Wikipedia.

    24 hour block for violations of WP:CIVIL. DurovaCharge! 04:43, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    BrownHairedGirl (talk · contribs)

    This user insults me, changes my posts, deletes my comments, reverts the removal of frankly insulting thing's she's posted on my own userspace, has abused her powers to ban me, she does not value other people's comments and thus discredits them according to who posted them (a good idea doesn't care who came up with it), seems to be 'afflicted' with Editcountitis, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Editcountitis. And finally, she certainly appears to be working with other wikipedians to disrupt dececion boards and get her "enemies" banned. For example, Hainchen deleted one of my valid comments (allegedly spam: (though the message itself was just a copy of what I had spoken to her on her userpage about and an explanation why I had put it there, as she had been claiming that she was being canvassed and it was offensive. origional message can be found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BrownHairedGirl#.27Empires.27_Wiki.2C_Which_you_have_opted_for_deletion (note that this post was before it was discovered that it was the wiki page being deleted, not empires own wiki.))) three times, and three times I had to revert it. then, Brownhaired girl blocked me for failing the three revert rule.

    She continues to talk and insult me long after the discussion page where we first met was deleted by some admin or other, and even though i do not try to retalliate. She is clearly abusing her power and personally attacking me— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nuka5 (talkcontribs)

    Cite differences, I'm not an administrator, but that's the first thing admin ask for, when arbitrating personal attacks.--Vercalos 23:48, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    OK. I looked through all the edits that you both made, and you violated the rules, she enforced them. It was as simple as that, nearly as far as I can tell. She could have reprimanded you for violating Wikipedia: Civilty but she didn't.--Vercalos 00:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    'Administrator response: page diffs are needed. DurovaCharge! 04:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Open reports

    Expatkiwi (talk · contribs)

    This user has been vandalizing my page here [7] and has been putting personal negative comments on my userpage repeatedly here [8] and here [9]. In the past he has also shown such behavior to others like here with historical revisionist diatribe masking an attack [10]. In this case he is accusing someone of ethnic cleansing because of editing the wrong article [11]. In fact in the past he has been shown trying to explain why he put an article up in wikipedia for propaganda purposes [12]. Because of this I sometimes question why he creates certain articles (I am not against creating articles, but is there really an ulterior motive?) I hope that his behavior stops but unfortunately his actions on my page prevent me from having any hope of calmly discussing this with him. (UNFanatic 06:12, 9 November 2006 (UTC))[reply]

    Final warning issued. I'll try to keep an eye on this one, but let me know either via my talk page or here if this sort of behavior continues. Luna Santin 08:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]


    Mrpainkiller7 (talk · contribs)

    User page "enemies" section is self-explanatory. [13] Should take note that the user has shown willingness to compromise from this earlier version [14] which included both my Wiki name and another, after two revert and two warnings. Has also vandalised my talk page as a form of "payback". [15]

    I have deleted the section of his userpage (violation of Wikipedia:Attack page), as well as accompanying images (per above plus likely copyvios). I have warned him about his actions, if he continues, he will get blocked for violation of CIV-related policies.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:18, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Update: it appears Mrpainkiller7 does not take criticism very well ([16], [17]).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:25, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    Blocked one week. I've blanked the profanities at this editor's talk page and user page. DurovaCharge! 23:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Reopening per Luna Santin's comment in history

    This user is now using abusive sock puppets to impersonate me while vandalizing pages. Please see Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mrpainkiller7. Since User:Luna Santin stated in the summary when s/he removed this entry that it should be replaced if the situation escalates, I'm doing so here. Apologies if this is redundant. --Neurophyre(talk) 00:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Page diffs, please. DurovaCharge! 04:34, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    The whole bit is at Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Mrpainkiller7, but here are the diffs of one of the sock accounts, User:Nueroqhyer (a not so clever play on my name), impersonating me while vandalizing pages: [18] [19] (changing my words) [20]
    And in the history, the sock's user and user talk pages which are exact replicas of mine for the purposes of impersonation: [21] [22]
    Neurophyre(talk) 04:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    I went on over to the sockpuppetry case page and blocked two of the accounts indefinitely; the others don't seem to be quite as pressing of problems, unless they've been disruptive in some way? Luna Santin 04:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    I could argue that User:Xachna might fit here since it was used to edit the "enemies list" portion of Mrpainkiller7's page directed at myself and User:Jean-Philippe, but it hasn't been used to attack anyone other than that that I know of, nor User:Evicorator666. They're being used to circumvent Mrpainkiller7's one week block, but that's an issue for the sock puppet report where I'll go note it in my response to your response. Whew, twisted grammar. --Neurophyre(talk) 04:59, 9 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    WWETNAFan4Life (talk · contribs)

    After this [23], I posted a { {npa3} } warning on their talk page [24]. The user then posted this obscene message [25] on my user page. SteveLamacq43 13:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]

    Blocked for 24 hours for personal attacks/userpage vandalism. Kusma (討論) 13:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]