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Dispute of china as top producer[edit]

The Chinese culture always exaggerate everything by a factor of 10. Its really 3,700,000. instead of 37,000,000. Even 3.7 million is hard to believe since you barely see apples sold in stores in china, unless you are counting asian pears, plums, or oranges as apples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Applediscordia (talkcontribs) 07:00, 5 March 2014‎ (UTC)

Redirect to Apple Inc.[edit]

I am sure most people searching for apple on Wikipedia want to get to the Apple Inc. page. I think there should be a default redirect it. If administrators can compare a visitors count for both articles and decide over it, which article is more important, it will be convenient for the humanity to get to the Apple Inc.'s page in one take, just putting apple in a search box and hit 'Enter'. Editors like me will benefit too, due to a simplified linking.

Please read the discussion above as why there is no consensus for that case. The fruit has more historical significance and is a vital core topic. This helps safeguard that the the site remains encyclopaedic, and not rapidly changed as a result of news spikes, recent events, or the latest pop culture topics, which skews searches. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
That discussion has been archived. And despite Apple Inc. getting all the attention in the news this day, Apple the fruit is a primary topic with respect to long term significance, even though Apple Inc. might be used significantly. It is for the same reason we do not want Apple to be a dab page just because of the company's influence on modern day culture. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 01:13, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 January 2015[edit]

Please remove the recently-added section entitled "Proverbs" at the bottom of the "Apple" page. See below semi-protected edit request on 1 January 2015 for explanation. Profludwig27 (talk) Note:request moved/edited for clarity by  B E C K Y S A Y L E 19:30, 3 January 2015 (UTC).

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{edit semi-protected}} template. The edit could not be automatically undone due to conflicting intermediate edits; if you wish to have someone undo the change, it must be discussed on this talk page and a consensus reached. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 20:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Request re-submitted. The matter was put to discussion as requested. Over a month has passed, and no opposition to the proposed changes has arisen. A helpful editor fixed the errors in the first part of the Proverbs section, making those changes unnecessary, so the current edit request is to eliminate only these sentences:

"This was later developed in 1900s by American apple growers who produced hard cider and apple-cider based wines which sprang as an advertisement and grew into an American proverb. It originated in the 1900s as a marketing slogan by growers concerned that the temperance movement would cut into the sales of their hard cider, the principal market for apples at the time."

If elimination is not possible, then in order to reflect what is actually stated in the poster's source (Michael Pollan, Botany of Desire, p. 50), it should be changed to this:

"It was utilized in the early 1900s by American apple growers who formerly produced hard cider and cider-based wines to market the eating of apples when the temperance movement eliminated the consumer base for alcoholic beverages."

This would correct the fallacies that the term "originated" there and that it "grew into an American proverb" (as Taggart, Franklin and others state, it was already an American proverb at the time). It also removes several grammatical errors ("developed in 1900s," etc.). However, it seems relatively insignificant to mention such a brief and limited use of a centuries-old proverb with no other examples, and elimination of the sentences seems more appropriate. Please see discussion below for all details.Profludwig27 (talk) 18:12, 17 February 2015 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done Note that you're now autoconfirmed, so you can edit the article yourself as well. Sunrise (talk) 00:37, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Almaty, Kazakhstan[edit]

The city of Almaty is thought to be named after the word "apple", and has a long tradition of being known as the "Father of Apples". It is also located at the "genetic center" of modern apples, basically where we think apples originated from.

Just a little bit of trivia I think should be included somewhere. 173.81.128.130 (talk) 21:02, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

editing request: apple blossom dates in England[edit]

In the Cultivation>Pollination section, the article lists implausibly late blossom times for England, ranging from May 1st to May 28. No reference is provided. Based in East Anglia, I have never observed such late blossom times for the listed varieties.

Instead, for Orleans Reinette we have observed (East Anglia):

  • 2009 April 20
  • 2010 April 27
  • 2011 April 11
  • 2012 none (Reinette is biennial)
  • 2013 May 7
  • 2014 April 19
  • 2015 April 30 (full blossom May 5)

And for Cox Orange Pippin we have observed (East Anglia):

  • 2009 April 15
  • 2010 April 26
  • 2011 April 10
  • 2012 April 24
  • 2013 May 4
  • 2014 April 6 (sic!)
  • 2015 April 22

These dates are noted when one third of blossoms are open. Full blossom can take a day or up to a week longer, depending on weather, and not normally in May. These are free-standing trees, with no sheltering wall within 15 metres. Can an editor please provide a reference for the claimed May blossoming times?

If not, can a user from another English location, ideally further north, please report their Cox and Reinette blossoming times here in the next month or two? For the year 2015 at least. Thus the truth will out in the next 60 days... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.122.230 (talk) 10:43, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Popularity of cultivers[edit]

I'm referring to the lines "Most North Americans and Europeans favor sweet, subacid apples................Indian subcontinent". This seems to be a blanket statement and the cited references do not support it. While 40 is a dead link, I found the possible article being referenced at http://casfs.ucsc.edu/documents/News-Notes/fall_06.pdf and it does not contain any information about the popularity of cultivars around the globe. Reference 41 is similarly devoid of relevant information. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.20.11 (talk) 21:45, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 25 March 2015[edit]

GODZZwarmachine (talk) 01:44, 25 March 2015 (UTC) apple X mark.svg Not done This is not a request to change anything. Joseph2302 (talk) 01:47, 25 March 2015 (UTC)

evolution and ecology[edit]

i want to find out what animals propagate the seeds and eat the fruit, but can't find any research :(

just gonna leave these here... http://www.cell.com/trends/genetics/abstract/S0168-9525%2813%2900190-X?_returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS016895251300190X%3Fshowall%3Dtrue http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/32363/0 http://botany.wisc.edu/courses/botany_940/06CropEvol/papers/Harris&02.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.164.219 (talk) 15:53, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

Apple waste[edit]

That apple is not mostly eaten. It is partially eaten and throwing it away is a waste of food. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nelsonbarrantes6 (talkcontribs) 22:45, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2015[edit]

The term Christian should be changed to Judeo-Christian throughout the article. Samuel Bernofsky (talk) 00:01, 29 August 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Inomyabcs (talk) 11:53, 30 August 2015 (UTC)