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Redirect to Apple Inc.[edit]

I am sure most people searching for apple on Wikipedia want to get to the Apple Inc. page. I think there should be a default redirect it. If administrators can compare a visitors count for both articles and decide over it, which article is more important, it will be convenient for the humanity to get to the Apple Inc.'s page in one take, just putting apple in a search box and hit 'Enter'. Editors like me will benefit too, due to a simplified linking.

Please read the discussion above as why there is no consensus for that case. The fruit has more historical significance and is a vital core topic. This helps safeguard that the the site remains encyclopaedic, and not rapidly changed as a result of news spikes, recent events, or the latest pop culture topics, which skews searches. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:08, 9 November 2014 (UTC)
That discussion has been archived. And despite Apple Inc. getting all the attention in the news this day, Apple the fruit is a primary topic with respect to long term significance, even though Apple Inc. might be used significantly. It is for the same reason we do not want Apple to be a dab page just because of the company's influence on modern day culture. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 01:13, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
On the other hand, Apple Inc. is the primary topic with respect to usage. To quote WP:Primary Topic...
"In many cases, the topic that is primary with respect to usage is also primary with respect to long-term significance. In many other cases, only one sense of primacy is relevant. In a few cases, there is some conflict between a topic of primary usage (Apple Inc.) and one of primary long-term significance (Apple). In such a case, consensus determines which article, if any, is the primary topic."
So what should be done given "there is no consensus" (as stated by User:Zzyzx11 above)? I have a suggestion. However, before making this suggestion, I just want to say that I don't expect anything to change, since it seems that primary usage means very little around here (e.g. see Corn). So even though Apple Inc. sees 3x the amount of traffic as Apple [1] (and let's be honest, it would be more like 100x if "Apple" went to a dap), I'm sure everyone will hate this idea... Apple could redirect to Apple Inc., and this page could be renamed to Apples (similar to the deal struck between Window and Windows).
Niubrad (talk) 16:14, 4 May 2016 (UTC)



Edit request: add Phlorizin to the list of flavonoids contained in apple. See Phlorizin main article[edit]

Interesting. Added. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 17:05, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

Dispute of china as top producer[edit]

The Chinese culture always exaggerate everything by a factor of 10. Its really 3,700,000. instead of 37,000,000. Even 3.7 million is hard to believe since you barely see apples sold in stores in china, unless you are counting asian pears, plums, or oranges as apples. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Applediscordia (talkcontribs) 07:00, 5 March 2014‎ (UTC)

  • China exports alot of apples however and 37 million is the true figure Flow 234 (Nina) talk 16:08, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Wikidata Q89 vs Q158657[edit]

English Wikipedia does not show in https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q89 Is that expected? --Netol (talk) 08:16, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

@Netol: Do you work with Wikidata much? Because I don't and I'm not very clear on the mechanics over there. This article covers both Q89 and Q158657. I tried adding this article to Q89 but got an error message about it already being used by Q158657. I recently became aware of P1582 and it's converse P1672. en.Wikipedia has quite a few cases where the "taxon source of" and "natural product of" properties are covered in the same article (with a redirect for the other sense). I guess Q158657 should link to the redirects Malus domestica or Malus pumila, and Q89 should link to "apple"? Plantdrew (talk) 09:55, 13 December 2015 (UTC)

@Plantdrew: No I do not. I was trying to understand how it works when I saw that non-english Wikipedias don't link to the English version of "Apple" (see for example https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manzana) --Netol (talk) 09:02, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

@Netol: In the ES wikipedia they have Manzano and Manzana. The former, about the tree, is a redirect to Malus domestica, which is linked to this page. The latter has its own page about the fruit. The EN wikipedia seems to be unusual in that material that is strictly about the fruit has been jammed onto the same page as material that is about the tree and the species, making one very large page. My preference would be to divide it up, as is done with coffee and banana, which are clearly documented here as coming from more than one species of plant, so it has been easy to argue against wp:commonname. Modern apples also include a lot of hybrids other than Malus domestica, but what little information is here about them is jammed into applecrab. Their descendants, particularly those listed at applecrab#Scab-resistant–apples should be mentioned on the apple page, but are currently hidden away, giving the impression that all apples are Malus domestica. The Apple page shouldn't have a taxobox ... Sminthopsis84 (talk) 15:52, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 December 2015[edit]

Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JQTriple7 talk 07:28, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

Suggestion[edit]

In the section History, The wording "Apples were brought to North America" shold be replaced by, "Apples were taken to North America", or even "Apples were introduced into North America", as it is very US-centric in it's present form. 93.155.220.100 (talk) 08:16, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Pyramid contents please[edit]

Semi-protected edit request on 23 September 2016[edit]

Under 8.5 Allergy, I believe there needs to be a minor change and a separate addition. The change is to the 4th sentence of paragraph 1. Currently reads "This reaction only occurs when raw fruit is consumed—the allergen is neutralized in the cooking process.", and should read something like "This reaction only occurs when raw or partially cooked fruit is consumed—the allergen is neutralized if the apple is well cooked."

The sentence to add should be something like the following: This apple allergy may also be triggered by some foods containing pectin, as pectin can be sourced from apple pomace.

(I know the above facts from personal experience - I can only eat able where it has been well cooked/stewed, and some brands of jams cause the reaction in me due to the use of apple pectin)

49.183.75.57 (talk) 11:58, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

Rather than applying personal experience, please find a WP:SECONDARY source that supports the statement, then you could insert the edit with reference into the article yourself. --Zefr (talk) 15:09, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 19 October 2016[edit]

Omkar164 (talk) 15:32, 19 October 2016 (UTC)

@Omkar164: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talkcontribs) 16:17, 19 October 2016 (UTC)