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Sorry for the late reply, I have been very busy. To sign up for the wikicup you must wait for the next one top begin. At the beginning, there is a list placed up on the main page, from there you copy the mentioned syntax on the page : #{{/Sign|Country|User name}} and add it to the participants section. Dreamafter (talk) 23:37, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
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Development content is very important to include in an encyclopedic video game article. It provides a history of how the game came to be and provides real world information needed for an article to claim comprehensiveness. However, writing this section can be difficult because the amount and type of information available will vary for each game. One of the best sources for such information is a developer interview. These can provide insight into the thought process of the designers and give examples of influences and obstacles encountered. Previews can also be helpful by giving a snap shot of the game before it was released and may mention development issues that were still being addressed.
When writing about development, common sense should be used to organize content to maintain a sense of flow for the reader. Most times, it is best to give the information in a somewhat chronological order—though information can also be grouped by topics like audio, promotion, graphics, etc. If one such topic gets large enough, it can be split off into its own subsection or regular section. For example, Kingdom Hearts#Audio is a separate section from the rest of the development information because it focuses on the game's musical score and voice acting. Portal (video game)#Soundtrack, however, does not have as much content and is a subsection of the main development section.
What to include about development
Who are the developers? Which company or studio developed the game, and are there any prominent designers involved?
When did development begin?
When and where was the game first announced? (e.g. Tokyo Game Show, E3 Media and Business Summit, etc.)
What influenced the game's story, characters, music, and/or gameplay ? (e.g. past games, movies, books, etc.)
Were there any delays?
Was anything excluded because of time or technological constraints? (e.g. extra levels, game modes, characters, story arcs, etc.)
Things to remember
Avoid proseline. Though maintaining a sense to chronology is important, this section should not read like an ordered list of events.
Images in this section should be relevant to the information given and should add on to it.
Source everything to avoid information being tagged as original research.
Why did you remove the category, the article itself says that its the first conference of each year, in other words a recurring event. If that is incorrect, why did you write it? --Mika1h (talk) 21:14, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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GA review
No worries - and please don't take a negative review as a permanent setback - The referencing is good, it just needs a little copyediting and perhaps a little expansion =) Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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June 2008
Regarding your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. You need to calm down and chill out. Go read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA - further blowups like that will get you blocked for gross incivility. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
Suit yourself. Another outburst like the one you left in WT:VG will result in an immediate report to WP:ANI. We have much better things to do than to deal with your temper tantrums. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:09, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Ha and also, you wanna talk lets start like this. You cant fool me. I knew your intenions. And you know what, if you actualy listened to yourself talking, me and you have similar issues. The project wrongly accuses people of things, and yet people like you kinda confuse me. You act crazy kind of mad and then act legit when your called out. The project is stuck up, I meant what I said. It is stuck way up the butt. And if someone is offended...GOOD. Sadly is was meant to call people out and to offend. Lets continue our disccusion on my talk page.GearsOf War00:13, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Point me to an edit where I was acting out of line with respect to the civility policies within the last month, and I will happily apologize. In the meantime, I will repeat: COOL DOWN, or you will be blocked from editing for a while to prevent further disruption. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Never said you were un-civil. But you get on me about nothing! Im treated like some a-- hole. Im sad right now, kinda feeling hurt. I almost retired a couple of seconds ago. But now...I'll never be an admin. And I feel this hate for you and some other user and the WPVG because you ruined my ambition. I say that you should be more opening and welcoming to users. Any more problems...talk to me on my talkpage.GearsOf War00:29, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Past blowups and even getting warned or blocked once don't necessarily bar you from becoming an admin. I had a really big blowup in '06 with another user that spanned five talk pages, Wikiquette alerts, an ArbCom request, etc., in which both the other user and I were quite disruptive to the project as a whole. Yet, I managed to become an admin eventually. So see? It can be done.
I don't think anyone there was trying to treat you like an "a--hole", as you put it. Please go back and read my initial response to you - I was doing my best to be as polite and neutral about it. You started getting upset at me from the get-go, and I let it go right at first since ALTTP took your side and other editors appeared to be following suit. After that, my comments were directed mainly at ALTTP, partly because this sort of thing has happened before with him and I was getting kind of tired of seeing him walk all over the rules without anyone calling him out on it.
I don't assign bad faith to people who aren't actively displaying it. I saw your request as a perfectly reasonable request, but a misguided one - your teacher may have asked Wikipedia editors to tell you what their favorite video games were, but the fact is that there are a lot of things that WP is not, and as I mentioned, I tend to interpret that more strictly than some others. Just because I pointed out that WP is not a forum does not mean that I think you're trying to disrupt WP - in that case, I was simply trying to let you know (before it became a problem) that it was outside the scope of that discussion page.
I think what would help you the most would be to take a step back and realize that criticisms of your edits are not a reflection on you as a person, and you shouldn't take them personally. At no point in all of this have I attacked you as a person - I have only criticized your behavior. I think you tend to take criticisms too personally, though, and that leads you to get angry when people don't see things your way. If you can step back and keep it from getting to you like that, I think you'll find the project to be more fun, for one, and undoubtedly more interesting.
Look, I don't like giving warnings or shooting people down any more than you do. I believe in collaborating and working constructively for the common good. As such, I want you to know that I appreciate the amount of work you've done for the project, and I'm not criticizing you as a whole. I believe that your edits, your suggestions, and your requests, have all been in good faith, and I agree with some comments that were left for you in your Editor Review. You're eager to help out, and we can all appreciate that.
As I said in my reply on the project talk, I believe in upholding our rules equally and without prejudice. That sometimes means that people like me have to point out when other people are bending those rules. Wikipedia is, for all intents and purposes, a serious project, and while people should have fun working on it, the project loses focus when we start getting sidetracked with discussions that don't ultimately benefit the project as a whole. I'm a little stricter on this than many other editors, but having been in your position in the past, I can see why it's sometimes necessary.
That is not to say I'm perfect. I do make mistakes and I do sometimes step over my bounds when it comes to trying to keep things focused. In this case, I don't believe I did, but if it comes to pass that I was unnecessarily harsh on you, I will apologize.
I think that retiring from WP:VG and/or Wikipedia as a whole is probably a bit extreme here. Nobody is asking you to leave. I also want to make it clear that my block warnings (which are still in effect) are not punitive measures, but rather preventative - they are both to help you, as an editor, cool down to the point where you can get back to helping the project, and to prevent unnecessary disruption to the project as a whole. So my warning you is not a means of retaliation, but rather an attempt to head you off before you do more damage.
Like I said, in general, I think you're a good editor. You do good work, you act in good faith most of the time, and it's good to see someone so willing to help out. If you do decide to take a break for a while, that's fine, but do consider coming back to the project when you're ready. I think you'll find that we're not all as stuck up as you think we are - there are reasons why we work as we do.
I personally feel you need to calm down Gears of War. The discussion was closed for good reason. I'm sorry if you don't agree with the guideline about "Wikipedia isn't a forum", but it makes perfect sense. Project talk pages are for discussions about articles (and guidelines and so on) related to the project, not just any random discussion. Wikipedia is a social place to have fun: user talk pages are the proper spot for discussions such as the one you made. You attacking KieferSkunk and the Video Game project (especially with the user box you made), doesn't help matters. RobJ1981 (talk) 00:58, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
I've stayed totally out of this all, but actually I was pondering killing the discussion last night, and would have had a couple people not already responded. Rob right above me here said it good, but I'll try to expand. For the record, GoW, I think the problem here is that you have in your head that because you have the editing power on WP it means you can, as it were, do what you want. It's not you alone at all - a lot of people don't quite realize the true purpose of WP, and I'm most of us who know things now were all ignorent of what was best when we began. The fact you're 12 is probably a factor (being that yound isn't inhrently bad, but it means you may not see things as well as older people might), but in all honestly I've noticed you continually trying to push things that just aren't quite in line with general WP practice. It's not even about being serious or not, what it's really about is efficiancy. The purpose of WP is to write an encyclopedia, it's not a social club. I dunno what your homework was supposed to be (for all I know your teacher was completely in the wrong too), but the thread on this was completely unrealted to the point of WP. It's like if you went to a forum for Gears of War, and said "Hey, I don't have this game, but will anyone help me with Mario 64?"...or something.
I don't think it's nessesarily your fault inherently that things went down this way. With the way the net is, people seem to push the idea that they can type anything and anyone trying to regulate them is a horrid person and so forth. I've seen this on a forum I'm on, people curse at the moderators for trying to mod, use the chat board for anything almost trying to turn it into /b/...it's almost sad. But seriously, understand that most of us here want to simply help WP in whatever ways we can, and if we want to be social we know of outlets for that. Hmm...I think that covers it. Feel free to poke me on my talk page (or even here) if you wanna continue further. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ (talk) 02:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
Really?
I'm sorry to hear that. Jese today's been a very bad day on wikipedia. The United World Chart article was deleted for no good reason, and now you tell me this. I'm sorry to hear that you won't be able to help me anymore, but hey it was fun whilst it lasted :), and I wish you the best in the future. Thank you for helping me with the task force. :) JayJ47 (talk) 05:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Re: VG Issue
Sorry about the delayed reply (I have 5 final exams this week, and have to memorize the entire Periodic table, the Pledge in Spanish, and study a year's worth of English and Algebra. All in the same day. Anyways, you seem to have cooled down, so good job. You should just keep your cool in these situations, before blowing up and getting into trouble. This quote should help a lot:
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Every time you click "save this page," be completely convinced that what you are saving will make Wikipedia a better, more friendly, and more successful project, and if what you’ve typed won’t do that, don’t click save. Essjay
I agree with CWii. And additionally, I say "just edit." Stop asking other users what you should do to gain administrative rights and just edit. The best administrators and candidates are those who don't care about becoming administrators. Metros (talk) 16:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Lol, you guys got it all wrong. I wasn't gonna aply for a RFA. I was just asking for stuff that I should get involved with so that when ever I do try to be and admin, I'll have experience under my belt.GearsOf War16:12, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Reread our answers, that is the question we are answering. General experience, time, measured maturity and judgement, those are what's needed. There is no specific area that you can be told to go to. Gwynand | Talk•Contribs16:17, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
As I just mentioned in your editor review, GoW, I think that an RFA is definitely not out of the question, but it will definitely take some time before you'll be ready for administratorship. Here are a couple of things to think about, though:
As Metros said, generally speaking, the best admins are the ones who don't care so much about becoming admins. There's a saying about the role, too: Many people tend to see admins as policemen, rulers, being in a position of power. It's true, to an extent, but admins are not really dictators or police or what not - we're janitors. We're given a set of tools to help clean up the wiki (usually likened to a mop and bucket) that non-admins either don't have, or have in more limited forms. While it's true that admins are called upon to enforce policies, we're under a strict rule to do so to minimize disruption to the wiki, and not to punish users. Also, it is not true that admins have any more say in forming policies and guidelines than non-admins do - being an admin doesn't automatically make you any more powerful.
To show that he's ready for the mop, an editor generally needs to have some editing history in multiple namespaces (Article, Wikipedia, User, Template, etc.), to have participated in one or more admin-related forums (WP:AFD, WP:RFC, WP:AN, etc. - these are not limited to admins only), and/or to have participated in some policy discussions (WP:N and WP:FICT might be of interest to you). A lot of editors look for a demonstration of broad knowledge of the wiki and community, in addition to just what the editor in question has done for the article space. It's not completely cut and dry - different editors have different criteria, so it's not possible to completely satisfy all of them. But in general, you need to be able to show that you understand what an admin's responsibilities are, and that you understand and respect policies and community consensus.
Finally, it really does take time - nobody that I know of has ever become an admin in anything less than a year of editing. You've only been editing on WP for a few months as of now, so it's definitely too early even in the best of circumstances. Build up some experience, learn the ropes, see what areas of Wikipedia interest you the most, and focus on just improving the wiki for now. Over time, as people come to trust you and work more closely with you, they'll see your merits as a potential admin and will be much more likely to support you. :) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
I think one of my problems is that I got introduced to the concept of adminship to early in my career. Ever sense, that has been my goal, to make awesome articles and to be and admin that has been my priority, maybe I need to change my mindset some.GearsOf War16:26, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Probably. I was pretty fired up about becoming an admin too, mainly because I saw it as a position of respect and authority. And to be sure, it is a position of respect and some authority (but not quite the same kind of authority as I originally thought). But it's almost a Zen thing, actually - it's like, if it's your primary goal, you're probably not going to reach it because you'll end going about it the wrong way, but if you just work with people like any regular editor without pushing toward adminship, you'll be far more likely to get there. Seems counterintuitive, I know, but that's kinda how it works - at least, that's how it worked for me.
And one thing I'll share is that having become an admin hasn't changed my editing at all - I'm still helping make great articles just as I was before I had the mop. It's just that now I'm also in a position to do some admin tasks when and where necessary, and I've actually done very little on the strictly admin side - deleted a few articles per WP:CSD, blocked a couple of users who really needed it, etc. I think you'll find the same is likely to be true for you - you can create great articles without ever needing the mop. :) — KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:41, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Man, I cant believe you founded this joint. So you would know some pointers. What should I get involved with so that I am ready for a RFA.GearsOf War13:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Work on other wikis is not a factor of consideration for becoming administrators here. This is especially true of some of the "nonsense" wikis that are cropping up a lot lately. Metros (talk) 18:22, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Being an admin on another wiki will not help you become an admin on Wikipedia. No wiki can help you become an admin in particular on wikipedia. If you are an admin on another wiki, the only thing that you will learn is the buttons. But do you know who to use them properly in wikipedia related tasks if your an admin on another wiki? No, not at all. -- RyRy5 (talk) 22:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Dont even start with that. Its not a big deal. I told the truth. He has absolutely no experience. Sadly, even with a new editor, the truth will never change. Dont make a big deal over that, I told the truth.GearsOf War02:45, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, you told the truth. You know it's true because you're experienced. He made a good faith application for adminship, thinking he'd be able to do the job. The last thing he needs is someone to, in the most abrupt and hurtful way possible, tell him that he's useless. Remove the offensive parts of your comments now or I will. Don't even start with the wikilawyering. giggy(:O)02:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Now I'm concerned (and I really hope you change this attitude before your imminent RfA). Do you seriously think the candidate won't be able to learn from this RfA, get some experience, and become a better Wikipedian in future? If we're supportive of him, then yes. If we uber strong oppose, and tell him he sucks, then no. Read over WP:BITE, and recall why we are here, please. giggy(:O)02:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Pull up. I never said that he sucks, I simply told him he had no experience now how you get those two mixed up I have no idea.GearsOf War03:02, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
(<--). Very strong oppose. You have no experience, are rude, incivil, immature, and have totally the wrong idea about this project.
If someone did that on your RfA, how would you interpret it? giggy(:O)03:03, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Im not understanding where I'm going wrong. I simply say that theres no experience and now your on my butt about being uncivil. If I was being uncivil you would no it-trust me. I would take as firm strong feed back. He may have saw it another way, but thats not how I would have.GearsOf War03:05, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Listen giggy, I have been criticesed amost more times than the most experienced editor. And I doubt this is the last time you criticise me, but please if its something as small as giving someone else criticm, dont come and tell me to cool off and stuff like that. Just get over it and move along, he'll get the picture without you telling me to remove my comment.GearsOf War03:31, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
I had dropped it. You kept it going. So now I'm gonna shoot straight on you.
You treat a newcomer the way you did today again, and you will be blocked for incivility, to prevent further newbie-biting-damage to the project. I don't care how many times you think you've been criticised - if you've learned from it, all the more power to you. If you haven't learned from it, then you maybe you should start doing so.
Plus, he only came for that one day just so that he could apply ofr adminship thinking it was a easy in because of his degree. So yeah, it over.GearsOf War20:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay lets see here. As long as it's not a new user, if someone makes a RFA with no experince, I can be as criticising as I want. Thats my condition. Deal.GearsOf War20:34, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
No, that's not acceptable. As I said before, the civility policies are not optional. WP:BITE is a significant part of being civil. What I see these people saying is that there are ways to say that you don't believe a person has enough demonstrated experience, without biting them. "There was no reason for this user to be nominated, no matter how skilled he is" is a very strong statement. A friendlier alternative, which doesn't change the meaning at all, would be "This user may be quite skilled, but there is not enough demonstrated experience to grant this person the admin tools right now." — KieferSkunk (talk) — 21:55, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Hear me out dudes. I only gave tough wikilove. I told him the god forsaken truth. Plain and simple. Yes I could have made it nicer. But it would have lessoned the reinforcement of my comment, plain and simple.GearsOf War22:04, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
Yes, and I can tell you that you're being a dick. That's tough wikilove too, but you don't like that, do you? That's why, instead of saying "you're being a dick", I try to be more helpful by (a) letting you know how you avoid offending people, while still saying basically the same thing, and (b) being less offensive myself. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 22:27, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
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Just saying I'll be taking any questions again on Tuesday after 4:00 PM (I'm writing from a hotel computer in Florida). RedThunder18:48, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to comment at [[WP:Requests for adminship/
Karanacs|my recent RfA]]. I am very sorry that some of the conversation tried to refocus on you - that was not fair and I hope it did not cause you any grief. Best wishes. Karanacs (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Right, thats my mistake. It should be mereged with World of Warcraft. The discussion is currently taking place on the article's talkpage.GearsOf War20:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Oh, right. When I said it should be merged with Worldcraft, I meant to say Warcraft. A simple spelling error.GearsOf War20:20, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Percy Jackson
Hey.
I've been watching the "edit summary debate" on the reverts on the Percy Jackson article about short stories' inclusion. I myself think down your lane, and it's time to find a policy and cite it for why the short stories should not be included, and if the edit warring continues, protect the page and warn the ip. Respond with your thoughts. Erik the Red 2 (AVE·CAESAR) 01:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Thankyou for your support dude. I have recently warned the ip(see his talkpage)and I appriciate it much. The reason why the article has not yet been semi-protected is because i have yet to shift my total attention to that article. Soon though, I will start to edit articles around the Percy Jackson book series and then the article will be protected, once again thatnks.GearsOf War02:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
My History
Short section on my userpage that I'll copy.
I made a couple of edits in April 07, a couple in August, and really got into it at the very end of the year, being co-adopted by Amire80 and Randomtime. I became a good contributor, but gave myself a snowed RFA for a 12th birthday present. That, and off-wiki issues caused me to create a few troll sockpuppets. I was blocked on April 25th by MBisanz, and stayed blocked for about a month when Amire80 rallied for me with Sarah, who unblocked me if Amir would agree to mentor me. Right now, I'm adopted by LaraLove.
Gotta go talk later(plus my stupid computer doesnt play recodings. Sadly it only plays itunes. So if its like adobe sound player, iw ont be able to hear it. Happy editing and later old chap(damn i need to work on that whole british thing)).GearsOf War14:20, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
That would be perfect, tell me when you do(though I'll gone shopping with my mom) :P. Tell me when its been converted,GearsOf War14:37, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I love cofee. My parents dont let me drink alot but theres a Starbucks right donw the street so whenever I can I chill out over there gulp...gulp...gulp. I gotta go shopping :( later.GearsOf War15:57, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
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I'm revamping my process for coaching, because I want to try a different angle. So let's call it "Editor coaching". Some members of the community have criticized my past coaching process as being too rigid, objective, and numbers-based, even calling it "gaming the RFA system", so I'd like to do this one a bit more subjectively. Through our "editor coaching" I'd like to find out what you already have experience in, what kind of editing you like to do, what areas you can improve in, what policies and procedures you still have to learn, what questions I can answer for you, and basically make you into a well-rounded editor. If we find that you are a suitable candidate for adminship, I'll nominate you. If you'd like to proceed, let me know and I'll create a subpage. Useight (talk) 15:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Looking down a couple sections on this talk page I saw "So maybe you should get your head together before you talk like that." In my opinion, if there was only one rule on Wikipedia, it should be WP:CIVIL. There's never a reason to respond in such a manner. It gives the appearance of immaturity, apathy, and incivility. Useight (talk) 17:18, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I reacted this way because he came to me like i did something wrong. The discussion was closed and we all settled the whole thing. Okay maybe I missed it by one but I will not let people be like that. My whole attitude to that situation is that I had better things to do than get dragged into a conva that could get me called uncivil. Thats why I orriginally deleted his comment.GearsOf War17:21, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I found a bit of time to give a good copyedit to some of it. I'm good at spotting problems with clarity or unnecessary words. But I might also ruin the flow sometimes. I can't say I'm a great writer. Feel free to revert, or get a second opinion. Cheers! Randomran (talk) 16:32, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
It might be wise to think about some of the comments you make before you do so, to avoid being completely wrong and misreading a situation fully. Martinp2317:22, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Hey man dont you dare say I was uncivil or said something wrong. It wasnt even mean. Dont come to me with that stuff. I said right thankyou. You are wrong. Being blocked 3 times is not good. I could have been alot wronger and I was not wrong. So maybe you should get your head together before you talk like that.GearsOf War22:12, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
I'd suggest you actually look at the block log. He was blocked twice, once at his own request, and the other time, the block was removed after a fairly short period of time. This is what I mean by avoiding being wrong by checking. This was just a friendly word of advice, which you have responded to in a rather uncivil manner. Have a nice cup of tea and a sit down. Martinp2317:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Look again. One block, one unblock, one block again. Comes to two blocks, and one unblock - not three blocks. Looking at the block reasons is even more enlightening. Martinp2317:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay then, whatever, 2 blocks or 3 all the same a block is a block. Its no big deal. Cream is back so please, stop getting on me about this.GearsOf War17:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
I'm not contacting you because Cream did a little exit after the RfA. I didn't even know about that when I wrote my original comment. I wrote to you more because I was, and still am, concerned about the fact that you seemed to be making a snap judgment without properly reviewing a situation. This is the sort of behaviour that drives away new users when they're slapped with warnings and brash comments when they're still learning. It's the sort of behaviour which also annoys more weathered users, which is never good. "a block is a block" is, to me, an example of this. You don't care for the circumstances behind the block, it seems - in this case, if you were to actually take a look at the block comments and follow some links - do a bit of research before taking action - I think you'd find yourself much better satisfied that The Right Thing is being done. This is true elsewhere - if you ever become an admin, doing things without having a close look first is likely to lead to DRAMA. I should know ;). But seriously, please take this conversation in the way I intended - please take this forward into the future and use the experience, and perhaps mistakes, to grow better. We only ever truly learn from our mistakes. Thanks, Martinp2317:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
WHAT?
No, I won't get over it. I want someone to step in and stop this guy abusing me in edit summaries - I've had it for over six months now. The use of FUCK isn't a breach of civility. Do you know what civility means? --Jza84 | Talk 19:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Firstly, don't restore talk message on my page or anyone elses. That's against policy. Secondly, who exactly did I "TELL" "what the fuck?" - that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever - "what the fuck?" is a rhetorical question - it's not even addressed to anyone. Thirdly, you clearly have no grasp on what this issue has involved - there's no way you read the case in that time. Forthly, given the above, I do not want or seek your help, thanks - and request respectfully, that you don't not contact me again. --Jza84 | Talk 20:01, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Note, that while Jza84's word choice may not have been the best, it is not against policy for an editor to remove comments from his/her own talk page. Useight (talk) 21:50, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
What? Sorry, but I think you mistyped the whole thing, because I can't understand a word of it. What does a DYK have to do with anything? What does Jimbo have to do with anything? Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood23:06, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
All I can say is that this is absurd. Go ahead and be surprised when Jimbo doesn't quite agree with you. Unless Shapiros is willing to G7 the under-18s page, I'll open the MfD. Nousernamesleftcopper, not wood23:12, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
"Fight"
Please stop with the "fight" and "battle" stuff like these edits: [1][2][3]. This is disruptive and not appropriate for Wikipedia. If it continues, you will be blocked for disruption. Metros (talk) 23:13, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
:{, all my friends turning on this. Fine I wont mae disruptive edits. I will make sure the cabal stays within its limits and we shall only do what we can to change this wrong.GearsOf War23:29, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
The cabal may fall but I will not die until this wrong is righted, even if that does mean never being an admin.GearsOf War23:33, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
Re:Attitude
Yes, we'll be admins eventually, but that cabal thing is a gigantic slap in the face. We don't care for adultism, but forget the cabal concept, OK? Or I'll come down from CT! Shapiros10contact meMy work00:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
We aren't saying you'll never be an admin, simply that you won't be one right now. I'd advise taking some time to cool off. Adminship is not something each editor is automatically guaranteed, you have to show you're worthy of it. You shouldn't be here for the sole purpose of becoming an admin; this is an encyclopedia not an online game. Cool off instead of trying to "level up". Adminship is not the be-all and end-all of being a user; you can still be a valid contributor without those tools. Ironholds00:45, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Again, it isn't the be all and end all. Focus on other things on wikipedia, or alternately take a breather for a few weeks and calm down. Ironholds00:53, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
So much for all the counseling I gave you just a couple of weeks ago. I'm sorry, GoW, but I'm starting to think you're right - you're single-handedly killing any and all chances you may have had of becoming an admin (remember that everything you do here is a matter of public record). If it's ever going to happen at this point, I think it unlikely to happen for quite a while, and only after you've shown a willingness to stop fighting for it, and further to stop treating other editors uncivilly. And frankly, if you keep it up, you're going to end up not being able to contribute to Wikipedia at all - people are only going to tolerate so much, and your behavior is wearing thin on many. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 00:57, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Screen shot of Mummy 3 game.jpg)
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Gears. Please listen.
gears, don't go. I'm still your friend here, and when you're head's in the right place, you're a damn good Wikipedian.
You'd be perfect if you didn't take everything so seriously. I heard you were warned for personal attacks. Calling this thing a battle is a no-no, because it isn't.
If you come back, stop wannting adminship. Start wanting to make Wikipedia a betterplace.Shapiros10.
Close one
I have also been opposed because of my age on my first RFA, so I know how you feel about this (It makes me want to write an essay). Again, I will leave you with a quote...
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We are Wikipedians. This means that we should be: kind, thoughtful, passionate about getting it right, open, tolerant of different viewpoints, open to criticism, bold about changing our policies and also cautious about changing our policies. We are not vindictive, childish, and we don't stoop to the level of our worst critics, no matter how much we may find them to be annoying.
Dude. I've never stopped believing in you. You've done some annoying things, one thing that really, really ticked me off. But I have never stopped believing in you, and never will.
The reason I didn't respond to your message is that I've been a) using WP:HUGGLE and b) playing this really addictive online game. TTYL!
On another note, Radio Wikipedia is looking for editors to do segments for the show, and I thought you might want to do one on Age and Adminship. If interested, record yourself discussing the matter with your opinion (don't get too mad and keep it clean, please). Then, send it to me at tjc94@comcast.net. I will then put it into the show if possible. See this file recorded by me as an example. RedThunder01:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
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After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:
Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
Rollback can only be used to revert vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
Rollback may be removed at any time.
If you do not want rollback, then contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some information on how to use rollback, you can view this page. I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, just leave me a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Happy editing! Malinaccier (talk)20:08, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
I've received some messages on my talk page concerning your use of rollback. Make sure to use it only on vandalism. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Malinaccier (talk)18:19, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
User page renovation
Othx. :) First off, I would like you to take a look at the designs listed on my user page. The list where it says "some pages I've designed". Tell me if you would like a design listed there. If not, just tell me what design you would like, just be specific. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 14:15, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hm... I think I could do that. The only thing I am not so sure I could do is the part when you said "I want that in a table with gold words". Is that okay? -- RyRy5 (talk) 14:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Okay. It'll generally take me a few days to redesign. Just ask on my talk page if you need anything. Thanks, RyRy5 (talk) 14:36, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Orphaned non-free media (Image:Bomberman Land.jpg)
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Arthur Smith (footballer)
Hi. I was wondering why you deleted the QPR stats from Arthur Smith (footballer). The point being, they were added by an editor who also added QPR appearances and dates to other footballers of the pre-Football League period, and if Smith's are wrong, then probably so are the others. I know the additions were unsourced; I put a note on the editor's talk page asking for their source, but anon editors with dynamic IP addresses don't necessarily ever see such messages. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 07:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
I've just seen you revert three correct edits in a row using rollback ([4],
[5], [6]). I'm sorry to do this to you – I appreciate it's been a bad week for you – but I've removed rollback from you as you're clearly misusing it. – iridescent19:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
Already replied on my talkpage. As I say, Malinaccier (or anyone else) can feel free to restore your rights and I won't oppose, but in my opinion three disruptive edits in a row using rollback is two too many to be a mistake. – iridescent19:49, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
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Regarding your comments on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games: Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. You need to calm down and chill out. Go read WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA - further blowups like that will get you blocked for gross incivility. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
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