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Is there any hope for this story? The first new military cemetery in fifty years for the dead of the two World Wars (in this case, dead from 1916) was opened 1000 UTC Saturday. The bodies were recovered from mass graves in northern France where they had lain for over 70 years [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8488863.stm (BBC News)]. Article is probably [[Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery]], although background information is available at [[Battle of Fromelles]] until the fork-merge is finished. Target article still needs work. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 13:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Is there any hope for this story? The first new military cemetery in fifty years for the dead of the two World Wars (in this case, dead from 1916) was opened 1000 UTC Saturday. The bodies were recovered from mass graves in northern France where they had lain for over 70 years [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/8488863.stm (BBC News)]. Article is probably [[Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery]], although background information is available at [[Battle of Fromelles]] until the fork-merge is finished. Target article still needs work. [[User:Physchim62|Physchim62]] [[User talk:Physchim62|(talk)]] 13:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:'''Weak support''' for variety and general-interest. Article needs work first. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
:'''Weak support''' for variety and general-interest. Article needs work first. [[User:Modest Genius|<font face="Times New Roman" color="maroon"><b>Modest Genius</b></font>]] [[User_talk:Modest Genius|<sup>talk</sup>]] 22:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support'' once the article is updated. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 03:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
::'''Support''' once the article is updated. --[[User:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">Plasma</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FFFFFF">Twa</font>]][[User talk:Plasma Twa 2|<font color="#FF0000">2</font>]] 03:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
:::I've (finally) finished a major [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fromelles_(Pheasant_Wood)_Military_Cemetery&diff=341633915&oldid=341632433 expansion] and [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fromelles_(Pheasant_Wood)_Military_Cemetery&action=historysubmit&diff=341643286&oldid=341636337 update] for this article. See [[Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery]]. A lot of the background details provided now, and I've also updated with some details of the ceremony that took place on Saturday. I realise that the mainstream news coverage has peaked now, but it would be nice if this could still go up for several reasons: (1) General interest and rarity of historical items like this in 'in the news'; (2) It is a fairly long article created almost from scratch (the amount of material to write is one reason for it being delayed); (3) The reburials are continuing all through February, so it is still technically news for the rest of this month; (4) It got a lot of news coverage from around the world: [http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/01/30/wwi.soldier.buried/?hpt=C1 CNN], [http://www.smh.com.au/national/digger-laid-to-rest-90-years-on-20100131-n5v2.html Sydney Morning Herald], [http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-News/British-And-Australian-WWI-Soldiers-Reburied-After-Lying-For-Years-In-German-Mass-Grave/Article/201001415538802?lpos=UK_News_First_Home_Article_Teaser_Region_3&lid=ARTICLE_15538802_British_And_Australian_WWI_Soldiers_Reburied_After_Lying_For_Years_In_German_Mass_Grave Sky News], [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/7112505/First-soldier-from-forgotten-First-World-War-battle-laid-to-rest-in-cemetery-in-France.html The Daily Telegraph], [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/this-britain/burial-at-last-for-250-unknown-soldiers-1884351.html The Independent], [http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/french-vow-to-keep-memory-of-war-dead-alive/story-e6frg6nf-1225825240376 The Australian], [http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8488863.stm BBC], and [http://www.lavoixdunord.fr/Region/actualite/Secteur_Region/2010/01/31/article_fromelles-apres-l-oubli-des-fosses-commu.shtml French regional papers] and [http://it.euronews.net/2010/01/30/a-fromelles-nuova-sepoltura-per-i-militari-britannici-e-australiani/ Euronews]. The only thing we lack is a free picture, unless anyone is nearby and can go to one of the funerals in February and take a photo for us. If this does go up, could I get joint nomination credit? [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 08:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
*Suggested hook: Burials begin for 250 British and Australian [[World War I]] soldiers at '''[[Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery]]''', the first new [[Commonwealth War Graves Commission]] cemetery for over 50 years. (News articles in previous comment, item already under 30 January in Current events). [[User:Carcharoth|Carcharoth]] ([[User talk:Carcharoth|talk]]) 08:26, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


====Alleged coup attempt in Burundi====
====Alleged coup attempt in Burundi====

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February 3

ITN candidates for February 3

February 2

ITN candidates for February 2

Concorde Trial

If Air France Flight 4590 is to be used as the target article it will need some work, but is there any support? HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 21:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Better to wait for a verdict on this one, I think. Physchim62 (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Let's wait for a verdict. --BorgQueen (talk) 22:01, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
This was news in Dubai yesterday, so inclined to support, depending on the verdict. Right now, we can't say a whole lot, so I consider it better to hold off. Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 07:53, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

We are the World re-recorded to help Haiti

BBC This is one of the most iconic songs from the 80s. I think this might be a good way to get Haiti back on the front page. Also, I think the event is notable in its own right--I don't follow popular music but it seems quite unusual for a hit to be rerecorded after 25 years. Plus, unlike many stories from sports and popular entertainment, this song has an excellent article and is already updated.--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose really not that significant. Plus we already have the Grammys up there, and there isn't a need to "get Haiti back on the front page." ~DC Talk To Me 19:33, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Plus there is a new version of "Everybody Hurts" released this week for the same cause. Oppose. Physchim62 (talk) 19:54, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Opposed. It's a music recording; agree that it's not that significant in the grand scheme of things. Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 20:06, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. If there were a need to "get Haiti back on the Main Page", there are much better stories than some pop song. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 20:13, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Per DC. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 22:04, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Retraction of study linking MMR vaccine and autism

  • This paper lead to many people not immunizing their children and arguably causing lots of harm. -- Flyguy649 talk 16:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm going to surprise myself by supporting this. I remember the original study being announced, and that we were all fooled is big news- the consequences of the mistake here is huge. Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 20:08, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. I'm glad this crap has been retracted and the story has obvious significance in the medical world. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 20:18, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. --BorgQueen (talk) 21:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support per above. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 21:45, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I notice that the article is in an excellent condition. Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 21:52, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

February 1

ITN candidates for February 1

The Financial Crisis leads to America abandoning human spaceflight

America cedes the future to the Chinese.

Qurq (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Let's wait for the actual report, shall we? That supposedly comes out tomorrow. Even then, there's no way they're 'abandoning human space flight', at worst they'll have to pay the Russians to launch US astronauts for them. Modest Genius talk 17:40, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Bump section to 1st Feb. Qurq (talk) 00:56, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would suggest something more factual and verifiable such as : President Obama's FY 2011 budget cancels Constellation program, ending the effort to bring a crew on the Moon surface by 2020. Hektor (talk) 20:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Weak support for something like 'The United States cancels the Constellation Programme, which would have returned men to the Moon' (certainly not 'President Obama', and better to avoid the technicalities). More notable than the run-of-the-mill shuttle flights, but I know some think we should post less space stories. Modest Genius talk 22:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The United States have not done that yet. Only President Obama's FY 2011 budget proposal has. We are just at the start of the process. Hektor (talk) 22:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Cedes the future to the Chinese" is a bit hyperbolic, don't you think. ... we did that decades ago. :P --Golbez (talk) 22:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It'sn't about giving up on spaceflight. It's about not wasting money on doing things we've done before. We've already been to the moon. No need to go there again. NASA chief Charles Bolden says instead that we should focus on spending money on new game-changing technology such as Vasimir ion-engines. 86.148.255.254 (talk) 22:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

eh? moon was only stepping stone to mars. since obama killed the moon program he took down future of mars program with it. go China! i support inclusion of this news. but obviously without the china part. -- Ashish-g55 23:02, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe that the budget is finalized and plenty of people in Congress won't want to see the NASA cuts affect the related businesses their states. I can't find the report but I believe that there is also an idea of having the private business sector take a more active role in manned space flight as well.Shinerunner (talk) 23:34, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Obama has merely proposed ending a program that might have led to lunar flights by 2019 (if everything went as planned), but which was already overbudget, behind schedule, and seen by many as a poor way to use space resources anyway. Notably, the proposed budget actually increases total spending on NASA. Dragons flight (talk) 00:02, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support whatever the outcome. Space exploration is always exxciting etc, same as teh Large Hadron Collider and so forth YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 00:22, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest Blurb: US Budget proposal includes canceling the return of astronauts to the Moon. Qurq (talk) 02:55, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose The final outcome is anything but clear and the budget is only the first step in in the process. RxS (talk) 03:20, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, as this is a hugely important and widespread story. UnitAnode 03:48, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose The project itself was only in its infancy and, as has been pointed out above, it is hardly a surprise it has been cancelled. If the US announced there were pulling out of space exploration entirely then that would be notable, but as it stands this is merely the end to one programme --Daviessimo (talk) 21:11, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Disqualified drivers in UK and Ireland

Too late! It apparently came into force on 28 January. (UK Department for Transport) Physchim62 (talk) 14:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

New cemetery for WWI dead

Is there any hope for this story? The first new military cemetery in fifty years for the dead of the two World Wars (in this case, dead from 1916) was opened 1000 UTC Saturday. The bodies were recovered from mass graves in northern France where they had lain for over 70 years (BBC News). Article is probably Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery, although background information is available at Battle of Fromelles until the fork-merge is finished. Target article still needs work. Physchim62 (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Weak support for variety and general-interest. Article needs work first. Modest Genius talk 22:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support once the article is updated. --PlasmaTwa2 03:47, 2 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've (finally) finished a major expansion and update for this article. See Fromelles (Pheasant Wood) Military Cemetery. A lot of the background details provided now, and I've also updated with some details of the ceremony that took place on Saturday. I realise that the mainstream news coverage has peaked now, but it would be nice if this could still go up for several reasons: (1) General interest and rarity of historical items like this in 'in the news'; (2) It is a fairly long article created almost from scratch (the amount of material to write is one reason for it being delayed); (3) The reburials are continuing all through February, so it is still technically news for the rest of this month; (4) It got a lot of news coverage from around the world: CNN, Sydney Morning Herald, Sky News, The Daily Telegraph, The Independent, The Australian, BBC, and French regional papers and Euronews. The only thing we lack is a free picture, unless anyone is nearby and can go to one of the funerals in February and take a photo for us. If this does go up, could I get joint nomination credit? Carcharoth (talk) 08:22, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alleged coup attempt in Burundi

From yesterday's items: Thirteen soldiers in Burundi have been arrested for allegedly plotting a coup to overthrow President Pierre Nkurunziza. (BBC News) (Afrique en ligne). Seems notable, but needs an article as far as I can find. --Ks0stm (TCG) 00:37, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Eh, oppose because the attempt was thwarted, which makes this not nearly as significant as a succeeded coup d'etat. Honestly, I think the article, if started, would end up at AfD per WP:NOTNEWS- and, yes, I do know which page I'm editing right now ;). Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 07:57, 3 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Presidency of the African Union

There is also: President of Malawi Bingu wa Mutharika becomes the Chairman of the African Union. (AFP). Jose Manuel Barroso's re-election in Europe was eventually posted last September. --candlewicke 01:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I support this item but I'm not sure which article would be a candidate.--Johnsemlak (talk) 13:12, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I thought about this one, but desisted from nominating. It seems more like the old rotating Presidency of the European Council, which we have only very rarely featured (and then, on quiet days). Oppose for the moment until someone can convince me of the significance of the event. Physchim62 (talk) 13:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 31

ITN candidates for January 31

Mexico student party massacre

Anything for this? --candlewicke 21:14, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wait for details. The BBC article linked suggests this may be linked to drug violence which, sadly, is not that uncommon in Mexico. However, I'll likely support once all the details are known. Any sign of an article or shall I start one? HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 21:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Article ?--yousaf465' 04:36, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Australian Open (men's tennis)

Roger Federer, the 2010 Australian Open men's singles champion
Roger Federer, the 2010 Australian Open men's singles champion

The 2010 Australian Open finishes in Melbourne on 31st January. If Andy Murray wins the final, he will be the first Briton to win a Grand Slam since 1936. ISD (talk) 18:43, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Doesn't Virginia Wade count then? Physchim62 (talk) 21:40, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, I mean the first British man since 1936 to win a Grand Slam, and the first Scotsman to ever win one. ISD (talk) 11:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well Roger Federer's taken the first two sets, so it looks like Murray is continuing the great British tradition of not winning. Physchim62 (talk) 10:19, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And now, from the ITN/C breaking news service:

Federer has just won 3-0 after a third set tie breaker. MickMacNee (talk) 11:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I assume that someone will be updating 2010 Australian Open with a match report, as they did yesterday for Serena Williams. It is pretty much impossible to put the update on Roger Federer, the guy has just won too much! Physchim62 (talk) 11:39, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support The women's result is already up so the men's result which happened a while ago should be up as well.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 17:29, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
If nobody can be bothered to write at least a couple more sentences with a couple more references about the match then sorry, it shouldn't go up. Compare the description of the men's final with description of the women's final just above it! Physchim62 (talk) 17:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have added Federer to the blurb, the match section has been updated enough now. I will swap it over to his image in a short while - Dumelow (talk) 19:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

2010 Africa Cup of Nations

Support once result is known and article updated (also on ITNR). Modest Genius talk 17:08, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support See my reasoning below.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 17:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

From the ITN/C breaking news service:

See below for the discussion about the second half of the blurb. Physchim62 (talk) 18:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support including both somehow if any more support is needed. --candlewicke 21:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And, according to the BBC, Egypt's win is a record seventh if any more reason is needed. --candlewicke 21:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Posted. -- tariqabjotu 03:09, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

52nd Grammy Awards

Normally you guys should include the Record and Album of the Year awards. –Howard the Duck 04:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Awards telecast is 0030–0330 UTC Monday. Physchim62 (talk) 09:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
"Use Somebody" by American (but more popular in the UK until recently) band Kings of Leon won Record of the Year. –Howard the Duck 02:26, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been updated. –Howard the Duck 06:11, 1 February 2010 (UTC) Suggested blurb:[reply]
Taylor Swift
Taylor Swift
I was thinking of using a Kings of Leon photo but the photos were bad at 80px. –Howard the Duck 06:19, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posted, thanks - Dumelow (talk) 08:15, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I dont wanna be kanye west here but it looks awfully odd that beyonce isnt mentioned in blurb with her record 6 wins in single grammy, since that seems to be the main news for this grammy awards. -- Ashish-g55 14:10, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Agree. Beyoncé seems to be the news. (And we have lots of pictures of her.) -SusanLesch (talk) 17:46, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I seem to be in a minority, but I prefer to look at Taylor Swift! ;) There's a discussion about this going on at WP:ERRORS if people want to chip in. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 18:39, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
no i also prefer taylor's pic. but beyonce should be mentioned besides her. -- Ashish-g55 18:45, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Togo banned for four years and fined after team bus attack

Togo national football team in 2006
Togo national football team in 2006

(BBC Sport). I have learned a lot in recent months about the ways and rules of football authorities but this seems like a new low... --candlewicke 00:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have expanded it and offer: The Togo national football team (pictured) are fined $50,000 and banned from the 2012 and 2014 Africa Cup of Nations for withdrawing from the 2010 tournament following the fatal attack on their team bus. --candlewicke 01:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
FIFA suspending teams after withdrawing from an international tournament sounds like normal fare. –Howard the Duck 01:52, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Even after they've been attacked? --candlewicke 01:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Normal fare? When is the last time this happened? Algebraist 02:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know, I was hoping someone might. It seems this has happened more often than I thought, oh well. --candlewicke 02:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
the only reason i would 'oppose is because we already posted the attack on the bus. if we hadnt posted that then this would have full support. -- Ashish-g55 02:15, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment We are due to post the final of the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations later today. Are we going to consider doing both items? They're related but I'm not sure how to put them in a single blurb easily.--Johnsemlak (talk) 04:03, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sporting federations such as FIFA always suspend a team when they withdraw from a tournament when the tourney is ongoing, no matter what is the reason except when an entire team dies. FIBA suspended the Philippine national basketball team in the 1960s, for example, while they didn't suspend the Krygyzstan national basketball team when they didn't play in the FIBA Asia Under-18 Championship 2008 when the entire team perished in a plane crash. –Howard the Duck 04:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Well... apparently "not since Buckingham Palace took so long to respond Princess Diana's death in 1997 has an organisation so badly misjudged the mood of the public". --candlewicke 04:47, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Hyperbole again? I would accept this being a part of the Africa Cup of Nations blurb when the final is done, but not on its own. –Howard the Duck 04:54, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Probably. How about a mention in the "UK Soccer" section of the website of The New York Times? --candlewicke 04:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Or "The crime of Togo's punishment" on Al Jazeera? --candlewicke 05:02, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd bet it's not even the top story on either the NYT or Al-Jazeera. –Howard the Duck 07:45, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose as a separate blurb. That would be three blurbs for the Africa Cup of Nations, two on the same day. Possible support if it can be fitted into the the blurb on the final winner, but I really see the actual winner of the tournament as bigger news than this. That said, if England were banned from the European Football Championship, I'm sure we would be posting that.--Johnsemlak (talk) 05:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support a blurb like "Ghagypt beats Egyana 1–0 to win the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations, while Togo is excluded from the next two editions of the tournament." Physchim62 (talk) 09:56, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - its pretty notable for a team to be kicked out of two editions of such a big tournament, especially given the circumstances. However, there is a logical reason for why its happened and that because the Togolese government told the team to withdraw (the majority of players and staff were willing to stay), which isn't allowed because because its considered government interference, which is itself not allowed. As such, they've been penalised not for actually withdrawing, but for the fact that the government told them to --Daviessimo (talk) 10:41, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Then this is somewhat more frequent, FIFA suspending federations due to government interference, but the "sentence" is quite harsh. –Howard the Duck 10:54, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Quite. The Confederation of African Football (CAF) had discretion as to whether to suspend the team or not, it would have been wiser to use it in this case. Physchim62 (talk) 11:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We should wait. I'm betting FIFA would rescind or lessen the punishment. If they lift the suspension this is a non-story. –Howard the Duck 11:22, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
But it is the severity of the punishment that makes this notable. Yugoslavia was only banned for one tournament when they where bombing the hell out of their neighbours, so for Togo to be punished like this is quite frankly remarkable --Daviessimo (talk) 11:33, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
When the final is over and FIFA still hasn't rescinded, it can be added along with the final result. I'd oppose a separate blurb or adding it before the final is over. –Howard the Duck 11:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment--FIFA did not issue this ban and have made no comment regarding it.1 I think it can be reasonably assumed that they don't support it but they're not going to interfere with CAF.--Johnsemlak (talk) 13:58, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd answer this below. –Howard the Duck 14:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support This is about as far from normal as you could get. MickMacNee (talk) 11:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Although the CAF press release says the sanction is for government interference, the sanction is based on a forfeit by the team (Art. 78, CAN Regulations), not on a withdrawal (Arts. 80–85). Makes it all the more ludicrous, but at least it gives the CAF a way out if it chooses to take it. Physchim62 (talk) 12:06, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support - worldwide importance - TouLouse (talk) 13:46, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Question--Togo is appealing the ban; is it worth waiting to see if the ban is rescinded? I think given the reaction to it, it's a possibility.--Johnsemlak (talk) 13:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say wait until Togo has exhausted all means for reconsideration. –Howard the Duck 14:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Will it be remembered then? The rest of the world (outside Africa anyway) might have moved on. And what exactly is Togo's last option? --candlewicke 16:27, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support if combined with the result of the final. Certainly extremely unusual. Modest Genius talk 17:10, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Per Modest Genius, unusual but since the original attack was posted it's best to combine it with the final result.--Giants27(Contribs|WP:CFL) 17:25, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • CommentThis is a totally separate story to the final. It absolutely no surprise to see it being tarpitted into oblivion though. Posting it with the (very imminent) final result of the ACN would be an absolute utter joke. As ever, ITN is an utter joke. MickMacNee (talk) 17:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Learn to take rejection a little better please. i am getting tired of you continously calling ITN a "joke". looking at figures physic posted at main page talk i would say ITN does a pretty decent job. I opposed to this story and others have compromised to add it in single blurb. i will change to support for single blurb too. i see nothing wrong with it since ITN has limited space. -- Ashish-g55 00:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  • SupportTo me it's seems to be quite an unusual step, instead of supporting a victimized team, FIFA bans it! I think football is the most followed sport currently. Well we may decide whether to combine it with final story or not.--yousaf465' 04:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wittelsbach-Graff Diamond

There's something important going on here I think but is it important enough? (BBC) (The Irish Times) (The Daily Telegraph) --candlewicke 05:17, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Interesting. Article needs an update.--Johnsemlak (talk) 05:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 30

ITN candidates for January 30

12 dead and at least 20 missing in boat incident

Weak Oppose i'm not sure that is really important. - TouLouse (talk) 20:29, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Australian Open (women's tennis)

Serena Williams, 2010 Australian Open Women's Singles Champion
Serena Williams, 2010 Australian Open Women's Singles Champion

Currently in the final set. Apparently an exciting match, but I've only got text commentary :( Physchim62 (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And from the ITN/C breaking news service:
Now we just need an article update! Physchim62 (talk) 10:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We have to wait until tomorrow when will ends the men's singles to mix in one blurb - TouLouse (talk) 11:08, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No we don't, that would be silly. We can post the women's result now, and then mix the blurbs tomorrow. That's what we do as a standard on developing stories – we certainly don't delay a story artificially! Physchim62 (talk) 11:19, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Physchim62. After all, if Andy Murray wins tomorrow it will become an even bigger news story, as will be the first British man to win a Grand Slam since 1936 and the first Scotsman ever to win a Grand Slam. ISD (talk) 11:22, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
We waited last year and what was the result? People were typing "Serena Williams" into the search box on the day of the women's final, but fewer were clicking on the link the day after when the ITN story was posted. ITN serves as a simple set of links for people to access stories that are "in the news": to artificially delay a story as we did last year and as TouLouse wants to do this year is to go against the raison d'être of the Main Page section. Physchim62 (talk) 11:57, 30 January 2010 (UTC)..[reply]
Support Let's post it right away. (Edit--support pending article update--The Serena Williams article has adequate prose update but isn't sourced.--Johnsemlak (talk) 12:17, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've added a couple of sources for the result. The update isn't glorious, but the content is uncontroversial. Physchim62 (talk) 12:37, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'd agree with posting if you add something to the article and hook make it a bit more historically informative. How about Serena Williams draws level with Billie-Jean King in the all-time Grand Slam winners' list with victory at the Australian Open (noting that I copied that from the BBC article)? The update here has been made to List of Grand Slam Women's Singles champions. Carcharoth (talk) 17:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I hardly see how getting to be joint-sixth on a list is more particularly ITN worthy than winning a major sports tournament. Physchim62 (talk) 18:22, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
She has won it four times before and won eleven other Grand Slam titles, and is the world number one woman's tennis player. Henin played well (and I wanted her to win), but it's not like it was a surprise that Williams won. I'm not objecting to posting, but sport updates don't really tell the reader any more than "this player/team won the event". As you said yourself, "The update isn't glorious". The ITN entry can just announce the event and result, but the article needs to go further, to have updates and reactions to the story. For that, you need to wait and see what the news services write about this victory. Ditto for tomorrow - if Murray wins, there will be a lot of news coverage and the article will be updated over the next few days - it is those updates (which lag by a day or two) that we should be showcasing, not just the result. Anyway, per Bradjamesbrown, post it now and edit the blurb to include tomorrow's men's final. Carcharoth (talk) 18:56, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Post it now and edit the blurb to include tomorrow's men's final. Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 16:33, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Post it now - the admins seem to be bottling it and pretending not to notice until they can merge them anyway. Why do we have to wait for it to be old news? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SteveRwanda (talkcontribs) 20:58, 30 January 2010
Posted. I changed the blurb a bit to clarify that it was her fifth win at the Australian Open, not overall - Dumelow (talk) 23:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I have also changed the bolded article to the event which is how (I think) I remember we do sports events. The event article has a reasonable bit on the match - Dumelow (talk) 23:47, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 29

ITN candidates for January 29

Korean situation

I think an article is needed about the current conflict event between North and South Korea. Any thoughts? - TouLouse (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

These flare ups are rather common in Korea, and it doesn't seem to affect the North/South Korea relationship much. If it resulted in a significant worsening of ties, then maybe.--Johnsemlak (talk) 12:20, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Toyota Recall

2010 Toyota Vehicle Recall is the article and its decently updated already. 2.3 mil cars worldwide recalled with stoppage in 6 production plants and sales of all recalled cars is quite a big deal. Acceleration pedal sticking isnt a small deal to begin with. This is major news in pretty much all news papers and the headline in all business sections. Toyota is biggest car company in the world. I will give it a support for being international news affecting many people world wide. -- Ashish-g55 16:02, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Support Was going to post this myself after seeing it on the BBC. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 16:33, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, clearly of international interest. Possible caption ..Following the discovery of an accelerator pedal fault Toyota announces the recall of 7.5 million vehicles worldwide. yorkshiresky (talk) 18:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like it, the story is good, and that the article about it is pretty well-developed is a bonus. Random89 19:18, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, I'd been wondering when we should post this. 2.3M cars is a lot of cars! far larger than any other product recall I can remember. Physchim62 (talk) 19:34, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
However, 2010 Toyota Vehicle Recall (sic) has a quite justified orange tag on it... work is needed (and not just at Toyota). Physchim62 (talk) 19:40, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support once the article is ready. Bradjamesbrown is travelling (Talk to my master) 19:41, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
even though the tag is there i dont see what can we put to make it more international since it already mentions that recall was extended to europe and china. i think its big enough for ITN right now and it will improve once its on main page. -- Ashish-g55 19:53, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support, as not knowing much about the car industry I came here to ask if this was a large enough recall and finding it already nominated I will support as well. If it has its own article it must be unusual. --candlewicke 21:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 00:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
woh i didnt notice before. it should not be 7.5 mil, only 2.3 since the rest are not for accelerator fault but rather the size of mat. we can say 7.5 but then we should also mention that its the total for accelerator and floor mat. -- Ashish-g55 00:18, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
How is it now? --BorgQueen (talk) 00:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
thanks for fast fix -- Ashish-g55 00:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
actually im still not sure about the numbers. since the article says 5.2 mil for mats and 2.3 for pedal but it doesnt say that they are mutually exclusive. i will research more in a bit but hopefully someone will give the proper number in WP:ERRORS. -- Ashish-g55 00:31, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I was just coming here to mention that. The Toyota Press Release says "2.3 million vehicles to correct sticking accelerator pedals", "separate from the on-going recall of approximately 4.2 million" for floor mats and "Approximately 1.7 million Toyota Division vehicles are subject to both separate recall actions". Therefore the number is 4.8 million (2.3 plus 4.2 minus 1.7) by my reckoning. I'll fix the article - Dumelow (talk) 00:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, that was just for the original recall, there have been others since. Apparently the worldwide recall currently stands at 9 million. I'll mention that in the article (and ref it) - Dumelow (talk) 00:46, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Guess what, Honda joined the club. [1] --BorgQueen (talk) 06:51, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
And Peugeot. --candlewicke 05:28, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Iraq Inquiry

For those unfamiliar with the topic, please allow me to explain this before making up your minds. Tony Blair, the prime minister who took the UK to war in Iraq is to give evidence to The Iraq Inquiry, the most comprehensive inquiry into the Iraq War which is investigating everything from the legality of the war to the type of boots worn. This is attracting attention from media across the world- The Washington Post, CNN, Al Jazeera!. Although the article, The Iraq Inquiry, does not meet our criteria, List of witnesses of The Iraq Inquiry most certainly is sufficiently updated and up to date. Suggested blurb:

--HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 08:54, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I can't see how this story is going to work. We need an update to an article somewhere that goes beyond what is said in the blurb and that gives background information to the news story. We can only do that once Blair has been questioned, and there's no single page where the update would easily fit. We can't just report what he said, that would be for Wikisource (and it's copyright anyway). We can't just say that he appears, because that can be summarized in the one-sentence blurb.
Also, if we do run it, we shouldn't just call it "The Iraq Inquiry" in the blurb, as most readers will not know what we're talking about. Physchim62 (talk) 09:17, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
An update at List of witnesses of The Iraq Inquiry with a summary of his evidence and possibly the surrounding events (there are quite a few protesters outside making a bit of noise) would, I would have thought, be sufficient. The inquiry article is effectively a stub and an update there wouldn't fit. Even if it isn't a huge chunk of prose, the list is a far better place to put it. As for the name, it's called The Iraq Inquiry and it's linked for those who wish to read about it in context. To call it anything else would seem strange. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 09:36, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, for now Unless he says something shocking. If not, we can wait until the commission gives its final report.Random89 19:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Big step forward in fusion power?

BBC announced[2] that a breakthrough was made at the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory yesterday, giving hopes that fusion power might become practical in the near future. --131.188.3.20 (talk) 11:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It's a fairly technical 'breakthrough', which apparently just turned out to not be as big a problem as they thought it was going to be (rather than an actual problem that was overcome), so I'm going to oppose. If/when someone gets more energy out than they put in, we can post that. Modest Genius talk 17:16, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure if this is notable enough, but in any case the information should be added to HiPER first.--Roentgenium111 (talk) 17:12, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I just noted that the info is present in the correct article NIF. Since the result is apparently highly praised by a competing experiment's team, this makes a support from me. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 17:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

January 28

ITN candidates for January 28

Bernanke re-appointed as Fed chief

Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the United States Federal Reserve
Ben Bernanke, Chairman of the United States Federal Reserve
  • The U.S. Senate votes to give Ben Bernanke a second term as chair of the Federal Reserve.
    • Hugely important to Wall Street types and the most hotly contested Fed appointment ever. Only three paragraphs about his re-appointment in his article, but we tend to ignore that criterion when it comes to the election of political leaders. Bernanke was the 2009 Time Person of the Year. -- Mwalcoff (talk) 00:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support Stock markets around the world are always looking at Wall Street, US economic data, Us monetary policy, Greenspan, Bernanke etc, and when they raise/lower rates YellowMonkey (bananabucket) 01:12, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Globally important position (and it doesn't change very often). Physchim62 (talk) 09:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. The head of the central bank of the world's largest economy works for me. HJ Mitchell | fancy a chat? 09:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Updated; posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 09:52, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support as well; though I doubted the Democrats would go against Obama in this right now at any rate. Bradjamesbrown (talk) 09:56, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Death of J. D. Salinger

  • I know we generally don't like an expected death, but I wondered if J. D. Salinger would be notable enough for our death criteria. His iconic The Catcher in the Rye remains "widely read and controversial, selling around 250,000 copies a year." The article is thorough and extensive, just needs some update on his death. --BorgQueen (talk) 18:24, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'll support. Salinger has a certain iconic status about him, even if (or perhaps because) he hasn't published anything in 45 years, nor given an interview in 30 years. And we have a good biography. Physchim62 (talk) 18:27, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support: "Source from the BBC Possible caption: American novellist J. D. Salinger, author of The Catcher in the Rye, dies at the age of 91." ISD (talk) 18:32, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Strong support. Author of one of the most commonly and widely read books of the 20th century. (added comment, it's already made the news in Russia)--Johnsemlak (talk) 18:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Author of a very popular and iconic book. - JuneGloom07 Talk? 18:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Iconic author. Hektor (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Additional source - BBC Obituary ISD (talk) 18:54, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It appears that the article already contains all the information given in the mentioned sources. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:03, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been updated. Posting soon. --BorgQueen (talk) 19:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No pic?--Johnsemlak (talk) 19:11, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
No. Do you expect a free image from a recluse? :-D --BorgQueen (talk) 19:14, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps an image of the Catcher cover could be used? UnitAnode 00:44, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Pile-on support, if just to show I don't auto-oppose deaths. Now here's an example of a front-page death. Wizardman Operation Big Bear 19:16, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Who says ITN never gets anything done? That was fast. (i.e. completely unnecessary pile-on support) Bradjamesbrown (talk) 20:37, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wow! That was fast... support as well and thanks to the ITN section of Wikipedia for telling me this first (sort of undoes the point about Wikipedia not being breaking news). --candlewicke 20:41, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
its already been posted. but ill pile on more support -- Ashish-g55 21:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Personally I oppose this on the basis that there are too many supports and this quite clearly contravenes the unwritten rule of ITN that all candidate based discussion should descend into talk about obscure, not even remotly related topics. Bah Humbug :P --Daviessimo (talk) 23:10, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Can items be removed after they've been posted ? If so, then remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.90.165 (talk) 00:38, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They can, but why do you suggest removal? SpencerT♦Nominate! 03:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note - this has been posted. —Ed (talkmajestic titan) 23:15, 28 January 2010 (UTC) [reply]

Can I repeat the question about using an image of the book? Is there no usuable image of Catcher? The current pic is of the third story down and really should be replaced.--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:26, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]