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Recently there has been a lot of vandalism by multiple new accounts in article [[Kulottunga I]]. It is possible that the same user is abusing multiple accounts namely {{user:Raghu_kp6667}}, {{user:VEERA_RAVI767665}} and {{user:Sekkizhaar76777}} as they are all posting the same edits. I have raised a request for semi-protection but meanwhile is it possible for you to block them? Thanks [[User:Nittavinoda|Nittavinoda]] ([[User talk:Nittavinoda|talk]]) 15:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Recently there has been a lot of vandalism by multiple new accounts in article [[Kulottunga I]]. It is possible that the same user is abusing multiple accounts namely [[user:Raghu_kp6667]], [[user:VEERA_RAVI767665]] and [[user:Sekkizhaar76777]] as they are all posting the same edits. I have raised a request for semi-protection but meanwhile is it possible for you to block them? Thanks [[User:Nittavinoda|Nittavinoda]] ([[User talk:Nittavinoda|talk]]) 15:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)


: {{ping|Nittavinoda}} I've added the page to my watchlist. If you think these are socks, you can request an investigation at [[WP:SPI]]. [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 17:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
: {{ping|Nittavinoda}} I've added the page to my watchlist. If you think these are socks, you can request an investigation at [[WP:SPI]]. [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 17:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

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Disruptive User

Hi, I see you have warned this user [1] but he seems to be adding unsourced content again on wiki. Checking his edits it seems most of it involve the South Indian Kannada language. Can something be done about this as he seems to have not paid heed to previous warnings.Linguisticgeek (talk)

@Linguisticgeek: I've dropped one more note on the user's talk page. If they continue to make unsourced / poorly-sourced edits, consider dropping a note at WP:ANI. I'll also keep a watch. utcursch | talk 17:15, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

This user is back. Keeps on adding unsourced content which I reverted. He removed a properly cited source on tigalari script. Also seems to have added unsourced content on balija caste and removed pollock citation on their varna. I see enough warnings have been issued to him.Linguisticgeek (talk)

@Linguisticgeek: Blocked for a week. utcursch | talk 16:10, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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Advice

I've recently expanded and created 3 separate sections about Alauddin Khilji's religion including views on it, relationships with Hindus and Jains. I think the relationships should be separated from religion as they are not completely related. However, then again some of his actions are motivated to exploit religious purposes. What do you think? MonsterHunter32 (talk) 20:58, 2 March 2018 (UTC)

Looks good to me, thanks. You might want to attribute Barani's statements to him -- most historians do not consider his religion-related information entirely reliable. utcursch | talk 19:24, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually the problem is in secondary sources. It's difficult to find one that is always detailing where it derived the info from. I used KS lal but he doesn't always mention Barani's information from Barani it seems. Wherever the source says, I add it however. MonsterHunter32 (talk) 07:48, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

Khilji changes

Hi.

I've not made a mistake and citation is not required.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/khilji-the-first-afghan-dyansty-of-hindostan.307086/

My ancestors were the Malmuk Delhi Sultanate.

So I know for a fact that Khiljis are not Turks but Afghans. They had some Turk blood. But they adopted Afghan identity.

Furthermore in this article below read early life section. It clearly mentions that the Indian Turks considered them Afghans. Shah Rukh Khan is a Khilji. Shah means ruler Rukh means face and Khan is Afghan lord title.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alauddin_Khalji

Kizznyc (talk) 15:03, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

A forum post is not a reliable source by Wikipedia standards. Neither is your statement as a claimed descendant of the Delhi Sultanate rulers. utcursch | talk 16:06, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

Disruptive IPs

Hi, Utcursch. I blocked 182.70.189.109 and I see you blocked 182.70.182.195 a little later (obviously the same individual). After checking the range contributions from 182.70.176.0/20, I don't see anything other than disruption and harassment from it in the past few weeks, so I've blocked the entire range for a week. I suppose my block may possibly inconvenience a good editor, but that doesn't seem very likely. Anyway. I'm sure the person will pop right back up after the week, or maybe immediately from another range, but what can you do. Regards, Bishonen | talk 19:03, 6 March 2018 (UTC).

@Bishonen: I agree with your actions. The edit history suggests that this is User:JinSHOCK81 (the creator of now-deleted Arkavansham), but I don't have any concrete evidence yet. utcursch | talk 19:08, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

My edits on the page on Alp Khan

Sir I would like to tell you that Malik Kafur conspiring to kill Alp Khan is not mentioned in any of the texts. The only basis of this conspiracy theory is homophobia nothing else. Aahwan Singh (talk) 16:01, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

@Aahwan Singh: The statement that you are removing is backed by a reliable source (Peter Jackson's The Delhi Sultanate: A Political and Military History, page 176). If you have a reliable source (such as a history book or a journal article) that contradicts this statement, feel free to add it to the article. utcursch | talk 16:22, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Dogra dynasty

Hey, can you please have a look at sources of Dogra dynasty. It even includes Gyan publications. Thanks -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 17:14, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Added to watchlist -- will work on it when I get some time. utcursch | talk 17:16, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Authenticity

You mean Peter Jackson's Historical fiction? Indeed very reliable source. Aahwan Singh (talk) 07:57, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Peter Jackson's The Delhi Sultanate: A Political and Military History is not fiction. utcursch | talk 17:27, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

Bhoja

Edits and additions on this page are based on Gazetteer , Government records , inscriptions found . I am trying to write the correct names . As I studied and found that Bhoja was of Pramar (प्रमार ) Dynasty .In all the sanskrit inscriptions and scriptures ( which is the source of History ) , Bhoja and his dynasty is called as Pramar . Continuous use Pramar word slowly became Panwar / parmara / Ponwar /powar /panwar/puar etc . Firista , Abu fazal use the word as Punwar or ponwar . Rasmala , bhats of Rajasthan use पँवार for Pramaras . It is required to specify it here in this page to avoid confusion . More precisely Ponwar or Panwar word need to be used as it is used in so many History books .If you ask any Parmar , they will say they are of Panwar race . I have edited after research on this topic HistoricalQuest (talk) 05:53, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

I've already mentioned this at Talk:Bhoja#Ponwar: British-era Gazetteers etc. are not acceptable sources. The inscriptions do not mention the dynasty as Ponwar/Pramar etc. utcursch | talk 13:45, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

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Wikipedia page for Ravana Rajput community.

Hello, I think there is discrepancy about the history and origins of Ravana Rajputs between Hindi and English Wikipedia pages. The content in Hindi is more authentic , and I tried to remove this dissimilarity but the previous content was restored. Dschouhantoshina (talk) 08:34, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

@Dschouhantoshina: The content in Hindi Wikipedia is not more authentic -- it is unsourced. English Wikipedia enforces the verifiability policy more strict: you need to provide reliable sources for the content you're adding. Caste-affiliated websites and publications are not reliable sources by Wikipedia standards. utcursch | talk 16:45, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

Vandalism on Bangladesh Article

Hello Utcursch, Please do something to stop Manipulateus (talk · contribs) from vandalizing Bangladesh article randomly. He is putting bullshit sources as well as modifying information randomly.--Vivaan65 (talk) 05:53, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

@Vivaan65: This looks like a content dispute rather than straightforward vandalism: you should try Wikipedia:Dispute resolution to resolve it. Also consider dropping a note at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Bangladesh. For obvious vandalism, you can submit a report at WP:AIV. utcursch | talk 12:55, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

Your reverts

Hi,

Sorry, its long, please reply when you have ample time. I want to cover several points with you. I have inserted my signature after each point, so that it is easier for you to reply point by point. In case you are too busy to entertain me, please point me to someone who might entertain all of this from me. Thanks 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

A. I noticed you reverted my edit on : prehistory of Australia with the comment "rv copy-paste across multiple articles, doesn't belong in lead" and Aboriginal Australians with the comment "rv content copy-pasted across multiple articles; repetition / Dikshitar isn't a reliable source etc". I had made a one sentence long same edit in both places, to provide the wider historical context and cross-linkages. Based on taking your another comment elsewhere on face value, I now understand your reasoning why Dikshitar is an outdated source. I want to further understand the following from you:

  1. If Dikshitar is taken out as a source, then all should be well with my edit? 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  2. It is permissible by wikipedia to apply same edit. Assuming all other things are correct, if the outdated source is taken out then it should be okay to repeat n 2 or 3 places, I can credit it to its original article (though its just one sentence). 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  3. Your first comment says it does not belong to the lede. That means, okay to include in the article elsewhere? That edit is summary itself, what makes you believe it is not worthy of lede (excluding Dikshitar and other points above)? 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  4. I do not recall, if I Have I ever hurt or wronged you in anyway. If so, let me know. I will sincerely fix it. I do not want anyone's experience being ruined on wikipedia because of me. If not, I felt your tone was bit negative. Please do not be upset, I have not done any wrong to you. Subsequent points are sub-points of this point. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  5. You mentioned other editors have reminded me of reliable sources. I did not know Dikshitar being reliable or not until you explained. Not possible for all the editors to know of such details of each source. Reason I used Dikshitar because it already exists in some of these articles. I simply re-used it. Not nice to imply as if U am deliberately introducing any such discredited sources. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  6. We all have been reminded of rules, you and me both. All of this is issue-specific and talkpage specific. Cherry picking and taking it out of the context mentioning it out of the context elsewhere is not the right way. Imagine, if I take others reminder to you and repeat it back to you on another unrelated talkpage. Specially you had never reminded me of anything on my talkpage, and I have not had any disputes of any kind with you. If anyone leaves me a message on my talkpage, I do not ignore it, I sincerely try to resolve each and every issue. So far I have been able to eventually resolve all the issues on my talkpage with the mutual consent. If you have anything, please leave me a nice explanation, and I surely will provide you a nice response with open heart. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  7. You mentioned I have used predatory journal, I have not used any such thing on these articles. You did not say so in your revert comments, and I am simply reusing combined pre-existing sources from these 2 or 4 Australia history related articles. If there is an objection to these sources, then should have been objected to when the original editor introduced it, unfair to single me out. I am not registered user (some times people treat me with less respect for that reason). I do not have any other registered account (less apps, notifications, etc means more real life). If you meant I used the used predatory journal as source elsewhere it was on another unrelated article then you please leave a message on the talkpage of that article with proper explanation (like you did for Tamil bell). I do not regularly revisit all the articles (helps me avoid edit wars and addiction to wikipedia), but whenever I visit the relevant article, I will surely respond to you. But you should not be generalising, cherry picking (I have been given accolades/kitten for the same edits), using it out of the context that undermines me. Sorry bhai, ye tune jaise comment kiya mujhey theek nhi laga, thoda pyar se cpmment kar deta bhai. I am not messing with people or wikipedia principals. Mei apne mei maast aur shant rehta hun. kisi ko bina wajah ungli nhi karta. Kisi ko mere se takleef hui toh mei us ke dil ki tasalli karne ki koshish karta hun. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  8. I do find few well entrenched objectionable practices on wikipedia. I do like to challenge those. I do it in a sensible manner, not to hurt people or create troubles. I have no ambitions of becoming admin, creating packing order, etc. If you come across me challenging those, please take take it with open mind. Help me by explaining your reasoning if you oppose, even if you agree with me then help by lending your support to the issue and by sharing additional wisdom for the benefit of the other editor who might be initially opposing it. Sab ke saath pyar se. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)


B. Unrelated to the all of above. I came across several issues, I am mildly starting to deal with some of these but have not gotten deep into those yet. I am taking it slow. Can you help/guide me where to take up these issues without getting into groupism I do not want to form any groups, or attack anyone, even those who might oppose me, yaar un ka bhi dil hai. Everyone can be brought around with love and explanation: 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

  1. A "generic" blanket excuse given as "Colonial sources are not unreliable" to keep out the inconvenient edits. What is the basis of this argument and where to find out the original discussion thread on this, so that I can first understand and if need be challenge or give suggestions later. Sure, this can not be misused as a blanket weapon. Whereas, simultaneously on the same article, low quality sources or unsourced text being preserved. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  2. Inconsistent criteria: People objecting to new inconvenient edits, while retaining lower quality sources within their current article. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  3. Knee-jerk reverts without making an attempt to inform the original editor, worse revert of large edit without even spending enough time to read it, worst of all is to revert large effort without giving goodfaith and without making an attempt to collaboratively improve it but rather act like a boss/Phd-reviewer to trash it all. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  4. Throwing 4 or 5 generic wikipedia tags on the editor to block their edit, without giving any specifics to substantiate it. It usually works 99.99% cases on IP and may be 95% cases even on the registered editors I presume. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  5. I find there is source bias towards exclusivist, toll-gated journals, western sources/journals. There is no attempt to have a more pragmatic inclusive approach to find alternate means of "horses for courses" sources, e.g. Indians are notorious for not documenting their history, or even modern scientist are happy to publish within Indian journals. They might be given a blanket label of unreliable soruces because the Indian/Asian/Non-western journals are seen as shit (just like IP editors are sometimes treated as shit). Archaeological Survey of India published uses research reports for its own use but they never publish in any journals. In short, need to create awareness of rising about the bias for the western tollgated sources, need to define alternative pragmatic criteria for the inclusion of what is reliable source. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  6. For example, about the predatory journals, some of the author-pays journals might be mislabeled as predatory without proving it with scholarly rigor. There is the different model of publication, they are basically free source publication for the consumer where author pays. Wikipedia is freesource where readers read free and authors pay in terms of investing their time. In that sense wikipedia and so called predatory journals have no difference. A blanket labeling those as predatory without proving it, is not right. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  7. Also, I came across one incidence, where I have disagreement with someone on it, where the person used dubious pretext without showing intention to collaborate and to revert it to unsourced skeleton text. I have not revisited that article yet as I like to give few days/weeks gap to gain more understanding and to let things cool down (sanity prevails form both sides) but this is still a open issue on my mental checklist. Eventually, I will deal with all. That is why i do not register an account. Free wanderer, revisit articles only when I am in the mood. But, I want to start challenging such biases and assumptions. I do not want to hurt and be the cause of these editors being punished or hurt because they might have spent years working on wikipedia and gaining their tools, access rights, etc. I need to find a way to take them all along. I am going slow, but I have started to probe and push a little here and little there without creating animosity. So far, I have resolved every issue with mutual consent without the involvement of third parties. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  8. Quick to issue warnings (warning templates have unkind words too), without making an to leave a friendly message on the editors page for first 2 or 3 times, warning should be 3rd or 4th option. This takes much longer, but it makes wikipedia more inclusive and kinder. Helps recruit, retain, train and onboard more editors. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Which groups I can read more. I also want to raise these issues to create awareness about these, so that all admins/editors start being more fair, consistent, kinder. I worry people might mistake it for pushing an agenda, diluting quality, etc etc and pounce of me, because some of it will shake up their deep rooted biases, disrupt the chain of "packing order" (wikipedia is egalitarian only in the name) and their personal feudal hold over the particular set of articles they may have created. Established editors and admins are in a better position to be "key influencers" than me, but initially they may see me as threat to their norms, practices, regime, etc. 202.156.182.84 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, if I made you fall asleep. Reply slowly when you have ample time and good mood to discuss. Please thoda effort kar ke acche se reply kar dena. Good night bhai. Khana kha le, soo ja. PS: typo etc and other stuff I will clean up in later round, hope its okay with you even if its after your reply to me. Thanks. 202.156.182.84 (talk)

(talk page stalker) @ 202.156.182.84, you need to read WP:WALLOFTEXT first ...Adamstraw99 (talk) 18:17, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
  • About Australia-related edits: Feel free to add relevant content that is reliably sourced, and is actually supported by the sources -- I've no problem with that. You added the claim that the DNA of the Indian Tamil sea-farers is found in Austrlian Aborigines to 4 different articles[2][3][4][5], which doesn't meet these criteria.
  • If you're simply "re-using" sources by copying them from exisitng articles, and pasting them into multiple articles within a short period, without analyzing them, you're not doing it right. 'Other crap exists' is not a valid argument here -- if other articles have poor sources, those articles should be fixed.
  • I'm not sure what exactly you mean by "colonial sources". But if you're referring to catalogues of castes and tribes written by British civil servants, this topic has been discussed at WP:RSN in the past -- books that stereotype entire groups of people and classify many of them as criminal tribes are not at all acceptable sources.
  • Personally, I've never encountered opposition for using Indian authors/journals/books as sources (and I use them a lot). "Indian/Asian/Non-western journals" are not seen as "shit" -- shitty journals, whether Indian or "Western" are seen as shit. It may be possible though, that because of its sheer size, India has a large number of poor-quality journals (just like a large number of poor-quality engineering and medical colleges -- just because these colleges don't appear in "World's Top 100 Universities" list doesn't mean that the compilers of those lists are biased against India).
  • For content disputes, see Wikipedia:Dispute resolution. For general discussions and suggestions about how Wikipedia operates, try Wikipedia:Village pump.
utcursch | talk 00:40, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Reference editing

I am a Research Scholar at a University. And in the University, the Internet connection is through the proxy server. Therefore I am blocked for editing on wikipedia. I don't know why and how that reference section edited. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brijendra Pratap Singh Janwaar (talk • contribs) 08:37, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

advice

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Ghirth

Ghirth Bahti Chang are jats . Ronak bains (talk) 15:44, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ronak bains: You need a reliable source (e.g. a scholarly book or a journal article) to support that claim. Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability. utcursch | talk 15:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Dont .. miss guide people about ghirth Ronak bains (talk) 16:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Jat Mahasabha ..had mentioned ghirth bahti chang are jats .. better you change the history ..its is not true that you have edited Ronak bains (talk) 16:04, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

@Ronak bains: Do you have a reliable source (e.g. a news article, a scholarly book, or an academic journal) which states that the Jat Mahasabha has classified Ghirths as Jats? If so, you can add that statement to the article. utcursch | talk 16:06, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I have photos of documents Ronak bains (talk) 16:07, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

If you're talking about photos of documents released by a caste association, that's not good enough. Lots of Hindi/regional newspapers have news websites - can you present any of those news articles? See Wikipedia:Citing sources. utcursch | talk 16:11, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

And your reference are also ..not clear about ghirth ... Better you update the information ..which you have updated earlier Ronak bains (talk) 16:14, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

The Indian Institute of Advanced Study is a well-established academic organization, and its publications are reliable. If you have another reliable sources that contradicts its publications, feel free to add them to the article. utcursch | talk 16:16, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

If you want proof then .. go to jatland.com This website is for welfare of jats in india. You will get reliable references Ronak bains (talk) 16:17, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Jatland.com is a user-contributed wiki, and not an acceptable source by Wikipedia standards. utcursch | talk 16:22, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Ghirth ar jats of Himachal because people living in Punjab and border ares during 1940-50 period are even considered themselves as jats ! they are jatts in punjab ! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ds324658 (talk • contribs) 09:20, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Are you mad or what you are saying that ...jatland.com registered govt organisation .. is useless Ronak bains (talk) 16:25, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

If you want proof come himachal ..then research ...dont give rise to strikes in himachal.. our govt. Know that we are High caste Ronak bains (talk) 16:38, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

Being a registered organization doesn't make one a reliable source. Anyone can register an organization and a domain name. If you still haven't gone through WP:TUTORIAL, please do. utcursch | talk 16:50, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

And mahesh sharma reference is also not a realiable source ..better you stay away from this Ronak bains (talk) 03:32, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Actually, it is. If you haven't gone through WP:TUTORIAL, please do. utcursch | talk 13:27, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

DYK for Tail chasing

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/Kanumuri-Bapiraju-faces-uphill-task-in-Narsapuram/articleshow/33795850.cms https://books.google.com/books?id=oQOF7tkWXjIC&pg=PA98&dq=kshatriyas+rajus&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiD-s67t4PaAhWGxFkKHcyxBUY4FBDoAQhUMAk#v=onepage&q=kshatriyas%20rajus&f=false.

The first source says "Rajus (Kshatriya)" and the second source clearly says "The rajus are a small, close-knit community of the Kshatriya caste". May I know why neither of them mean Raju is a synonym of Kshatriya? Sharkslayer87 (talk) 13:01, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

This link says "Ashok Bharadwaj (Congress)": that doesn't translate to "Ashok Bharadwaj is a synonym of Congress". If you're asking how the second link doesn't support your assertion, you don't know what a "synonym" means. utcursch | talk 13:54, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Ghirth

Hi, Utcursch. We don't normally semi talkpages, but I have to say I'm tempted re Talk:Ghirth. What do you think? Just look at all that crap, clearly posted by caste warriors in frustration at not being able to "improve" the main page. Well, I know you've seen the crap, I don't have to tell you. I've indeffed Father of Mukesh, btw. Bishonen | talk 16:10, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

@Bishonen: Thanks, I agree that semi-protection would be a good idea. utcursch | talk 16:17, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks. But I've now figured I'd first post a warning, to see if that helps, but I haven't been able to make it look at all noticeable, so I've just now asked my talkpage stalkers for help in creating an angry red box. (Maybe you're good with boxes, HINT HINT?) Bishonen | talk 20:38, 1 May 2018 (UTC).
There is {{Not a forum}}, which has a parameter for additional comment. But maybe the folks who visit your talk page know of something better -- let's wait for their inputs. utcursch | talk 20:42, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
They've already put a very nice obnoxious box on the page.😀 I didn't like to remove most of the stuff that you have replied to — you're really very patient — but I removed some. Bishonen | talk 21:02, 1 May 2018 (UTC).
But I was probably trying to think of the Not a forum template, thanks for the tip — I'll use that another time. Bishonen | talk 21:05, 1 May 2018 (UTC).

Vandalism on Mohammed Rafi

I need assistance because some user with multiple IP addresses and accounts is continually vandalising the article and making disruptive edits despite all level of warnings given. Thanks. Wolf Cola (talk) 19:24, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

Looks like User:Oshwah has taken care of this. utcursch | talk 13:22, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Upplapati1

Hey, I blocked this chap and now his sock Samanthathepirate, but on deeper look it appears that this may be part of the larger sock farm of Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Atmnn/Archive, can you or Begoon check on that? I might need to retag these. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 04:29, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Will take a look at the edits to find evidence of sockpuppetry. utcursch | talk 13:23, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Sock puppetry edits on "Heo Hwang-ok"?

Not sure if you noticed or not, but there's a pattern from quite a few accounts/IPs that seem to be adding roughly the same unsourced information. I gathered as many suspected accounts as I could. The oldest offender that I could find with this editing pattern was 2405:204:7204:5708:140F:3A2D:C89F:2A8 edit: found an older one making similar/same edits 202.153.6.232

I gathered as many suspected accounts as I could and created a .txt file of all the accounts and IPs that I could possibly find up to this point.

Should I go through with the sock investigation request or would you like to go through with it? If you wish to do so, I will reply back with all the accounts (linked for convenience) as soon as I can. (crossing my fingers that you go through with it instead of me) :)

Best regards, StaringAtTheStars (talk) 00:41, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

@StaringAtTheStars: Definitely worth looking into, although it is quite possible that these are different people coming from some kind of web forum. utcursch | talk 13:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Ahir

Stop reverting the correct edits on the page, if you dont know something, put the hands off the keyboard. Thanks 

DG Ahir (talk) 09:54, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

Rajput karni sena

Hey, shri rajput karni sena is not formed by the unemployed youth. Please stop spreading false information. Saurav Rajawat (talk) 03:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

@Saurav Rajawat: The article cites a The Times of India as a source. Do you have a reliable source that contradicts The Times of India report? utcursch | talk 13:58, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

History of India

pls care History of India! the page need more protection! some pov pusher are active there ! well referenced Bengali renaissance become now hindu renaissance ! what about late muslim contribution and education n women right fighter from muslim community --- 2A0A:A541:CDB8:0:3867:5AD6:3593:82CC (talk) 20:13, 21 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you link to a specific diff? Also, consider dropping a note at WT:IND. utcursch | talk 00:20, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

Regarding Beijing Review reference in Shanghai Hero Pen Company

Hi Utcursch,

I see that you have added reference to Beijing Review https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Shanghai_Hero_Pen_Company

I have seen their 1992 issue (http://www.massline.org/PekingReview/#1992) and could not find any reference to this company. COuld you please clarify which page number did you see? Vintagecontributor (talk) 06:12, 23 May 2018 (UTC)vintagecontributor

@Vintagecontributor: It's this article 'Hero': China's Parker For 60 Years. Google Books may have mislabeled the volume/issue. utcursch | talk 12:31, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
@Utcursch: Thanks, how did you read the article. It seems inaccessible. Vintagecontributor (talk) 01:31, 24 May 2018 (UTC)vintagecontributor
@Vintagecontributor: It was accessible on Google Books when I added the reference some years back. You can try your luck at Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request. utcursch | talk 03:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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Battle of Chamkaur (1704)

Your thoughts on user:Ama975193 using a primary source for 1 million Mughals at Chamkaur? --Kansas Bear (talk) 04:35, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: Obviously, not a great idea. "1 million" seems figurative. utcursch | talk 14:17, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Also, it's pretty obvious that this is not the user's first account: the first edit was a new article with infobox and refs. Can't figure out the master account, but it is noteworthy that our friend created Capture of Delhi and Red Fort (1783), and the now-blocked User:John Bourker created Sikh Occupation of Delhi and Red Fort (deleted as copyvio/uencncyclopedic in the past). utcursch | talk 14:36, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
Well, I had a feeling this person was not a "new user". --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:55, 30 May 2018 (UTC)

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Tyagi

Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri was a Tyagi. Rehra village is village of Tyagi's. Please conform to due dilligence before relentlessly removing my addition repeatedly. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyagiaman (talk • contribs)

@Tyagiaman: Please see WP:BURDEN and WP:BLP. You need to provide a reliable source that he was a Tyagi. utcursch | talk 17:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

It is clearly written in a reference from indian parliament. Please read reference named http://164.100.47.132/LssNew/biodata_1_12/1366.htm a b "Bioprofile". Lok Sabha website. Retrieved 1 May 2015. I have added few more references for you. Hope it suffices. If you feel it is still not apt then you need to do more due diligence before removing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyagiaman (talk • contribs) 16:54, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

The Lok Sabha biodata mentions the surname of his father as Tyagi, not his own surname. He has given up his caste-related surname: you cannot impose it on him. See WP:BLP.
The other references that you have provided are simply Wikipedia mirrors, with caches of your previous edits. They cannot be used as citations per WP:CIRCULAR. utcursch | talk 13:23, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

You are not bright enough to understand i am talking about Tyagi 'caste'. Tyagi caste can have different surnames like Sharma, Singh etc.. You dont know about it and you keep wasting my time with edits. You do not have the qualification to be an expert on this field. You can ask anybody who knows Mr. Prakash Vir Shastri that his caste was Tyagi. Just because there is no substantial proof from 70 years back you can not deny them their identity. By the way, do you have citation for everything on wikipedia? You do not have the skills to be an administrator or moderator on this topic so please go find yourself a job which you are good at. You have spoiled my day on so many occasions trying to get 1 well aware thing added to this forum. Does this get you more money to keep going back & forth? Is this your way of keeping yourself happily employed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tyagiaman (talk • contribs) 14:33, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

I do not claim to be an expert in this field, and I do not get paid to edit Wikipedia. As for the citations, please see WP:BURDEN. utcursch | talk 14:36, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

Can you check ...

Hi, do you have time to check this edit? I am not sure that it is even relevant to the article but the source is one of those Diamond Pocket Book things that you have recently noted are sometimes poor. I cannot see the relevant pages. - Sitush (talk) 21:44, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

That article is better off being divided into Patil (title) and Patil (surname), just like Inamdar (feudal title) and Inamdar (surname). utcursch | talk 19:24, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
Yes, that was my thought, too. I will have a word. - Sitush (talk) 04:02, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

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Chauhan

Hi, you did a lot of work on Chauhan some years ago. It has descended into a mess of attempted pov edits yet again and now the Yadava source is listed in the bibliography but not cited. I am unsure how to get it back in there or even if it should be in there because things have changed so much. You appeared to introduce it in a series of edits around here. Can you make sense of things? - Sitush (talk) 04:04, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

My guess would be that it needs to be somewhere near This legend was probably invented by the 10th-century Paramara court poet Padmagupta, whose Nava-Sahasanka-Charita mentions only the Paramaras as fire-born but I cannot see the thing. - Sitush (talk) 04:07, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

It's probably not required. I must have copied it from Agnivansha by mistake, while copying another citation. utcursch | talk 13:31, 12 June 2018 (UTC)

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Page Move Discussion

There is a Page move discussion going on for Rajneesh. Would you be interested in participating? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rajneesh#Requested_move_11_June_2018 Accesscrawl (talk) 15:48, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

@Accesscrawl: Can't say I'm knowledgeable enough about this topic to contribute. Consider dropping a note at WT:IND. utcursch | talk 15:50, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
I did it, thanks for info. Accesscrawl (talk) 15:53, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Anything else do you suggest to get more attention on the discussion? Accesscrawl (talk) 15:55, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
It should get more attention from the WT:IND post. You can also try Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Religion. utcursch | talk 15:58, 15 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. Accesscrawl (talk) 09:38, 16 June 2018 (UTC)

Mapframe

I like mapframe and I looked at you added it in several articles recently. I have one issue with it that it should have smaller markers like points. Can we do that? Is there any way we can display labels as well? You recently changed map on Jainism but former map looked better and understandable with all label of places. Can we link articles in those labels? I look forward to change mapframe in other articles if it can be done. Regards, -Nizil (talk) 17:04, 22 June 2018 (UTC) Nizil (talk) 17:04, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nizil Shah: The marker size can be adjusted using "marker-size": "small". The articles are already linked in the labels, but the labels aren't displayed until one clicks on the marker symbol. I'm not sure if there is a way to display the labels by default: you can try asking at mw:Help talk:Extension:Kartographer.
By the way, feel free to restore the old map, if you think it's better. utcursch | talk 17:13, 22 June 2018 (UTC)

Changes on page titled Rohilla

Hey you always reverts my changes made on Rohilla page...please give me the list of acceptable resources...so I can provide any one of them to prove my self right. Thanks Jatinrohillarajput Jatinrohillarajput (talk) 07:27, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Jatinrohillarajput: Scholarly books, journal articles, newspapers etc. are acceptable sources. Please see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources and Wikipedia:Citing sources for details. utcursch | talk 02:04, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Query

Hi Utcursch. Could you contact the Arbitration Committee by email at arbcom-l@lists.wikimedia.org when you're able to? Thank you. ~ Rob13Talk 21:49, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Just did. utcursch | talk 02:04, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Protect

please protect vandalism of Anbumani Ramadoss page .. . Gowtham Sampath (talk) 06:07, 25 June 2018 (UTC) unt

Done. FYI: You can request page protections at WP:RfPP -- several admins have that page on their watchlist. utcursch | talk 13:42, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Possible abuse using multiple accounts

Hi Admin,

Recently there has been a lot of vandalism by multiple new accounts in article Kulottunga I. It is possible that the same user is abusing multiple accounts namely user:Raghu_kp6667, user:VEERA_RAVI767665 and user:Sekkizhaar76777 as they are all posting the same edits. I have raised a request for semi-protection but meanwhile is it possible for you to block them? Thanks Nittavinoda (talk) 15:33, 27 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nittavinoda: I've added the page to my watchlist. If you think these are socks, you can request an investigation at WP:SPI. utcursch | talk 17:20, 27 June 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, I've raised a request for to check for sockpuppets. Nittavinoda (talk) 15:18, 28 June 2018 (UTC)

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Malusare

Dear Utcursch, Please can you look at the Malusare page. It seems to be mostly WP:OR. Thanks, Acharya63 (talk) 19:03, 8 July 2018 (UTC)

I see you've already tagged it -- feel free to remove any unsourced content per WP:BURDEN. utcursch | talk 00:38, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Ashoka Rise to Power

Reputed Historians may be but that does not mean their finding are right. More than that read his book properly before telling me what is what. Here we are talking about history, history is not assumption, its fact. And if there si no fact you can't anything you want just simply someone says so. They clearly written, the pattern of the sites of edicts of Ashoka shows in the map, which does not show which part is under his control and which not. There are many historians and many interpretation, but accepted which is fact based. And their research does not have any facts behind them, they simply assumed and biggest false in their words is about "the tribal areas" shown in the map, this is the Orissa, the final battle Ashoka of Kalinga took place which si conquered which is a fact as if you come to India go and read the EDICT 13 of Ashoka, you will find this written "Directly after the Kalingas had been annexed began His Sacred Majesty’s zealous protection of the Law of Piety, his love of that Law, and his inculcation of that Law. Thence arises the remorse of His Sacred Majesty for having conquered the Kalingas, because the conquest of a country previously unconquered involves the slaughter, death, and carrying away captive of the people. That is a matter of profound sorrow and regret to His Sacred Majesty", so how come this area is not part of his empire, it was not a tribal state at all, there was king at that time. Again, when they were discussing the power rank of his minsiter of different part, they get anomaly in Kalinga which itself shows they proved that their assumption are wrong. This is not my personal view. I have enough logic before editingand removing. I hope you understand, we don't have to believe anything and everything whoever he or she can be, but by facts and stats. And those historians can be reputed but they can be wrong. So you must change your edit and yes if you keep the same than add links as you said many other people doubted these border. or I am going to edit again. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dey subrata (talk • contribs)

@Dey subrata: This is better discussed at Talk:Ashoka. The other map is also based on assumptions, and these assumptions have been challenged by recent scholarship. For example, see Perspectives from Archaeology and History: "Early scholarship and more recent political claims concerning the Mauryas have portrayed the empire as a highly centralized and homogeneous polity that unified a vast region into a single monolithic imperial state. However, some more recent scholarship has emphasized the discontinuous geography of the empire and the internal variability in its administration (Fig. 6.2; e.g., Thapar 1987, 1997; Fussman 1988; though see Chakrabarti 1997: 203-6 for an opposing view). In particular, Mauryan territories in the Deccan and south India appear to have been quite limited, restricted to areas near important mineral resources, especially gold sources along the Tungabhadra River and in the Kolar region of south India. Asokan inscriptions are rare in the western and eastern Deccan areas..". utcursch | talk 18:47, 9 July 2018 (UTC)

Khalji

To Utcursch.

As you stated about sources, here is i think "The most important source" we simply cannot look over it. It is "Tarikh Yamini" which is written way before khalji dynesty. In that khiljis are (EXPLICITLY) mentioned as Afghans. Now i dont request taking of turko afghan to afghan. All i am saying is the article needs to be a little less biased, like deleting (wrongly) etc. Thank you. https://archive.org/details/kitabiyaminihis00reyngoog — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:4643:C8EC:0:E411:A483:8D3E:92F6 (talk) 18:25, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

See Talk:Khalji dynasty#Khalaj. utcursch | talk 18:40, 11 July 2018 (UTC)

pawar surname

Hello Sir, With due respect, I would like to apologize that I had changed the sentence in Wikipedia page of Pawar surname earlier. But I would also like to share that families with Pawar as their surname that claim to be Rajput hail from North Indian states like Himachal Pradesh and Uttarakhand as well. So mentioning the fact that Pawar surname is found among only Maratha clans that claim to be Rajput along with Punjabis and Jatts and Nepal is quite misleading. I believe since Rajput caste is all over the India, there must be families with Pawar surname from other states too. Please take notice and add some more well researched facts in Wikipedia page of Pawar surname. Thank you. Spawar1110 (talk) 11:28, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

@Spawar1110: Please see Wikipedia:Verifiability: if you have a reliable source that states that the surname is found among other regions / groups, feel free to add it to the article. utcursch | talk 14:57, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Udit Narayan

Hi. Please take a look at the Udit Narayan page. Thanks. — Jakichandan (talk) 05:42, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Will keep a watch. utcursch | talk 14:29, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Thank you so much. — Jakichandan (talk) 15:37, 27 July 2018 (UTC)

Possible conflicting information

Hi Utcursch, I was wondering if you could help. There has been some vandalism in the past on the article about Arvind Singh Mewar which is why I watchlisted it. Recently there seems to have been some back and forth whether or not he is the 76th custodian of the House of Mewar or if it's his brother Mahendra Singh Mewar. There are sources for both and this appears to be a long running dispute which ended up in court (apparently). I haven't been able to find any conclusion. If you have any starting points that help solve this, this may be good as I have a feeling the real-life controversy finds itself on WP. I suspect some recent sources may not be available in English. Many thanks. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 12:14, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

@Jake Brockman: I wasn't able to find anything definitive on this -- consider dropping a note at WT:IND. utcursch | talk 16:05, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Thanks. I'll try and reach out to IND as well. pseudonym Jake Brockman talk 16:15, 30 July 2018 (UTC)

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Moving KOCE-TV

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, articles should not be moved, as you did to KOCE-TV, without good reason. They need to have a name that is both accurate and intuitive. Wikipedia has some guidelines in place to help with this. Generally, a page should only be moved to a new title if the current name doesn't follow these guidelines. Also, if a page move is being discussed, consensus needs to be reached before anybody moves the page. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 02:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I had moved the article as per an OTRS request. Your note on the article's talk page explains the current title. utcursch | talk 03:02, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

Ram Pyari

Hi

Hope you are doing good.

She was one of lady leader like jhasi ki rani..

Her sacrifies should be included in wiki..

At last its up to your dicision.. hoping for good..

Thank you Gewin007 16:55, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

@Gewingewin: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ram Pyari Gurjar (The Lady Chieftain). The Rani of Jhansi was a historical person, Ram Pyari is not. Even as a mythical/legendary character, Ram Pyari is not mentioned in reliable sources, and therefore, not notable for Wikipedia. utcursch | talk 17:05, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

You may refrr to her contribution over World Heritage Encyclopedia.. the same is written there Gewin007 17:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Gutenburg Gewin007 17:23, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

@Gewingewin: The World Heritage Encyclopedia copies content from Wikipedia, and is not a reliable source. See Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Vwxyz#World Heritage Encyclopedia. utcursch | talk 17:25, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Rani ki jhasi was a queen.. hence she came into highlight.. and rampyari was not the queen.. i think that is the entire drawback Gewin007 17:26, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

They are copying from wiki and not reliable !! :-) :-) Gewin007 17:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Its make me laugh Gewin007 17:27, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

And the writers of the 2 books are not family members of her.. or from india..

They wrote a book because its history.. and not writing books over common persons like me or millions of others Gewin007 17:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Finally,its your decision.. thxx Gewin007 17:32, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

@Gewingewin: The "books" that you're referring to are simply copies of Wikipedia articles. See OmniScriptum#Wikipedia content and Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks/Vwxyz#VSD. An article on Ram Pyari once existed on Wikipedia, but was deleted as hoax: these books simply copied content from the now-deleted article.
Please have a look at WP:RS and WP:MIRROR to understand why these are not considered reliable sources. I recommend going through Wikipedia tutorial if you haven't already done that. utcursch | talk 17:35, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Talk page query

Hi, I was just browsing this talk page and found that at the bottom of this page it is written that "Catagories - wikipedia sockpuppeteers, suspected wikipedia sockpuppets of Raghu kp6667 ... I Am unable to understand this... Why its written here? i don't think you are, or have ever been a sockpuppet then why this tag on talk page?can you please tell me? --Thanks --Adamstraw99 (talk) 17:48, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

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