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Looking for work?

Hi BennyOnTheLoose - I hope you are well. If you are interested in creating some more cue sports bios on women, I've got a few that I'd suggest - All of those on this list: List of WPA World Nine-ball champions are notable, such as Vivian Villarreal, Chen Siming, Liu Hsin-mei and Bi Zhu Qing. http://propool.info/ is a good source, as is AZBilliards, which is subscription based, but I have an honorary subscription for. This also includes any winners of the girls/boys/wheelchair events.

I am planning on doing some women's tournament/series articles, such as the Women's Euro Tour and the WPBA Tour, but I'm a bit burned out with creating bios for players (I must have done at least 150). There's also players like Ana Gradisnik, Caroline Roos, Line Kjorsvik, Natalia Seroshtan, Ana MazhirinaMonica Webb, Martine Christiansen and Charlotte Sorensen who all have more than one win on the Euro Tour. Let me know if you are interested in making any of these. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:22, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Yes, hope you're well too, I'm happy to help. I'm on holiday for a week from 1 August, but I'll try to have a look at Vivian Villarreal, Chen Siming, and Liu Hsin-mei for now. I'm also hoping to dig up a bit more on the women's professional snooker championship in the 1930's and 1940's - I've got a few old, brief, newspaper and pictorial sources, but not enough for articles yet. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:35, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

No worries. No rush, I just thought I'd highlight them (as I thought you'd be interested). I suspect it might be difficult, but checking through the articles on the mens snooker championship articles might give some ideas for reference places. I know The Times covered these events, as would have local press (dependent on venue), globalsnookercentre.co.uk has some info, but you'd have to look through the archives. When was the competition founded? Is it the same competition as the World Women's Snooker Championship? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:08, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

Hello

Great to see a new editor writing interesting articles, especially with access to good offline sources. – Teratix ₵ 10:09, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Guardian/newspapers.com sources

Hi Benny! I hope you are keeping well. I'm looking to work on 1985 World Snooker Championship, but running low on sourcing for the earlier rounds (The final is covered (a lot), but not elsewhere). Could you find out if the higher level sourcing you have access to has much on this? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:31, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Sure, I'll have a look. Unfortunately, I don't think the British Library has the 1985 issues of Snooker Scene, which would probably be the most comprehensive source, but I'll see what I can do. I'll put anything I do find on the 1985 Championship talk page. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:24, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:34, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Check the talk page on 1985 Championship. Not too much detail on the matches, but hopefully it helps. There are a few additional details in the articles of course, but I've tried to note anything that looked a bit interesting, and excluded mentions of breaks of about 60-70 etc. I should have time tomorrow to check the Times archive too. I can go back to articles if you have questions.

@Lee Vilenski: Hopefully you've got a mail from me with a link to some good stuff - I found the June 1985 issue of Snooker Scene in my cellar! Let me know if not. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:22, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for all of this - yes I did get your email, as wiki has been down it's been a bit difficult to thank you properly. I've added a few details to the article, but I'll be adding in quite a bit for it. It'll take me a bit of time before it's GA nomable, but all of this information means the article should look fantastic. I'm amazed at what you found in your basement! The things about the drug testing and the cue tip being broken are fantastic and give the article loads of colour. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)

I'm almost done with the article now! Feel free to take a look at 1985 World Snooker Championship... Any ideas on the qualifiers? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:45, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: I might a couple of snippets on the qualifying, will add that in. Just to check, did you see the scans from Snooker Scene (17 pages) at the link in the email? I'll hopefully have a look at the article today, but from a brief scan through - great job! BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I got the scans. I just haven't had time to work my way through what's there. It's a bit weird, I found some online sources talking about a round robin for qualifying. Was this not true? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:45, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: It was knockout for qualifying. If you look at the results, you can track players through. The Rothmans Snooker Yearbook (e.g. 1987-88) omits the first qualifying round (7 matches) and puts the qualifying results into groups rather than rounds, so may have contributed to there being a confusion with round robin, but there are five players in each "group", for a total of 80 players across the groups, not 64. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 17:35, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

That makes much more sense. I've worked my way through the article. I doubt I'd have the effort in me to add all of the qualifying results, but I think it's complete now. Thanks for your hard work getting these sources, they have made it possible to promote! Once a Copyedit is done, I'll nominate for FA Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 17:37, 8 September 2019 (UTC

Cue sports redlink lists

Hi Benny,

Not sure if you watchlist the cue sports talk page, but I thought you might find the links I placed there helpful. It's at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cue sports/Archive 1#Missing players lists. There's a load of players and links to foreign language articles for individual players. Might be worth a peruse. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:40, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Lee Vilenski, and belated congratulations on your marriage! I'll check that list out. My next targets are improving the world billiards championship article, articles for all world billiards champions, and improving Ng On-yee. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 08:25, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

That english billiards, or carrom? I would recommend WP:CXT, as there are lots of information on the german wikipedia (that's where I got most of the pool BLPs from. [1] might be a good place to start), and some for carrom on fr.wiki. (such as at [2].) Now the wikicup is over, I can put some more work into the background (like templates, and new articles). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:25, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

1984 World Championship

I know you asked about having a look at this one, and now the cup is over, I had a few minutes to check it through. I made a few changes. Let me know what you think. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:06, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski Thanks! I'll have another read through some of the sources and see if there's anything useful to add in. In answer to your earlier question, it's English billiards stuff I'm working on - I'm unlikely to touch carom articles as I don't know enough about the game. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Ideal. I think with a few contemporary sources it could be a GA candidate. I don't know much about billiards in general really - I did write an article on Jean Bessems last night though. Let me know if I can help.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

WPA World Nine-ball sources

Hi Benny! I'm looking to fill out all of the WPA World Nine-ball Championship articles, and I'm struggling to get anything pre-1996 (1990-1996). Could you have a look and see if there is anything on the newspaper archive? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:39, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski No joy from the online sources I've got access to. There are a few passing references to reigning champions in some US local papers found on NewsBank but no tournament details. There's an outside chance that there might be some coverage in Snooker Scene, but they didn't have much on pool in the 90's. I'll add that to my list of stuff to check at the British Library, which may be next week depending on when I'm able to order the items and get there. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

no problem. I don't necessarily need tournament brackets (although that would be great), just some sources that talk about the events. I've done backwards to 1996, but before that I can't find much. I'd rather not have an article on the 1991 event based purely from citations in 2002 commenting on Strickland having won the event before. If you do dog anything up, please let me know :). Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:07, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Alice Dearing

Nice work on expanding her article. Thanks! Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:25, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

1985 British Open

Hi Benny, I did a bit cleanup on 1985 British Open, as I think it's a good contender for GAN. I'll do a bit more work on it, and get it perfect. If you'd like to claim points for this one, either one of us can nominate (you get points now for just being a significant contributor). Do you want me to chuck it through GA, or do you fancy this one? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 11:27, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

Lee Vilenski Hi Lee, thanks. Yes, if you could put it through GA that would be great. It was at this tournament that Francisco accused Stevens of drug use, although that only became public later - "snooker's first drugs story" as Everton has called it. Shall I add in something about this do you think? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:44, 7 March 2020 (UTC)

I think so. I went into detail in the world championship article, but it would be great here. I've nommed. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:53, 8 March 2020 (UTC)

Precious

making women blue

Thank you for quality articles about women in different sports, such as Caroline Dubois, Sarah Ellerby, Anastasia Nechaeva, Stacey Hillyard, Alice Dearing, Angélique Duchemin and 2018 Women's World Snooker Championship, - Benny, you are an awesome Wikipedian!

You are recipient no. 2359 of Precious, a prize of QAI. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:47, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

that list is getting long now Gerda Arendt! I think I was 2,231 if I remember rightly. Benny is a great content creator. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:09, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Your Copyedit Request

Hi Puddleglum2.0, many thanks for your improvements to the article. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:00, 14 June 2020 (UTC)

2005 WSC

Hi Benny! My next target is the 2005 World Snooker Championship, as I'm a huge Murphy mark. However, I'm having a few issues in that most of the refs are broken (specifically the qualifying results). I see there is some stuff on the British Newspaper Archive (I'm working on getting a subscription!), so there may be something on there about it. Could you take a look for me?

Happy to help, Lee Vilenski. If you've got specific British Newspaper Archive items I can look them up (I treated myself to an annual subscription) and failing that I can check Guardian or Times articles, or in the Kobylecky book. Let me know what you're after, or just stick some cn tags in the article. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:32, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

What I'd really like is an overview of the qualifying structure (if you look at the current refs, they are broken), and the format/seedings list of the event. Luckily there is already a match recap of each of the matches to the BBC report, so we aren't in any issues with that, but an overall structure of the event is missing.

I went to WP:TWL, who got me free access to [3] after a few emails a while back, and I've gotten access to newspapers.com from there before, so maybe I'll get a hit. £70 for a year is quite steep IMO, when I wouldn't get all that much use out of it! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 18:36, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

Bundling

Hi Benny, I saw your GA nom for Billiards and Snooker Control Council. I may end up reviewing it, but as I checked it through, I'd like to introduce you to WP:CITEKILL/WP:BUNDLING. You have certain items that look like:

"two professionals to recognise the BA&CC as continuing to have authority over the game.[19][20][21][22][23][6]:146–147 From 1972,"

Might I suggest either getting rid of some of these citations, or bundling these into one citation? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

That's great Lee Vilenski - I see myself using this quite a lot in future! Regards BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

Thought I'd mention it. I have an issue with any more than 3 citations after a sentence, as it really doesn't need to be confirmed so many times. The bonus with bundling, is that you can add additional comments to the citation, as to why things are as they are, and it's neater.

of course, if possible, remove redundant refs Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 10:41, 2 July 2020 (UTC)

FA

Hi mate, planning on putting up the co-nom for 1986, would that be ok with you? If you get time, could you look at some sources for the qualifying in 2005 World Snooker Championship? Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:28, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

@Lee Vilenski: Yes to both! Might be a few days on 2005 - I missed booking a British Library spot for the first week of reopening. There might be an online source, I'll root around. Cheers, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:25, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

James Wattana Kent Challenge 1989

Hello Benny how are you ?. Wattana won this event it is referenced on Turner's site. It says "Wattana won the £6,000 first prize in the Hong Kong tournament". It is also listed on the new wpbsa players profiles. Can you find the runner-up for the event please ?. This tournament is not to be confused with the 1990 Hong Kong Challenge where Wattana beat Jimmy White. Can you help ?. Regards 31.200.191.247 (talk) 08:50, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

No luck on tracking this one down so far. I'll keep an eye out for it. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:16, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

Me either how come we can't find any info on this ?. It must have been a small event I suppose 89.204.235.137 (talk) 15:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Probably. I wonder if it was reported in the Hong Kong press at the time? I don't have access to any Hong Kong newspaper archives. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 15:44, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Sure who the hell would know that I've no clue, what about Snooker Scene ?. 89.204.235.137 (talk) 16:50, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Here are the results of the 1989 Hong Kong Challenge:

Qtr-f: S Leung (Hong Kong) b R Farebrother (Aust) 126-98 (86-35) Sakchai Sim-Ngam (Thai) b G Sethi (India) 118-98 (69-37), K Kwok (​Hong Kong) b B Anderson (NZ) 132-72 (58-46), J Wattana (Thai) b T Ang (Singapore) 126-63.

Semi-f: Kwok b Wattana 117-89 (76-39) Sim-Ngam b Leung 132-85 (57-68).

Final Kwok b Sim-Ngam 3-1 (68-32 100-11 72-68 79-8)

Source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/120934409/ (I don't have access to the full article)

In the qualifying rounds, Hong Kong's Kenny Kwok and Stanley Leung won the two berths available in the main round. Kwok trashed Zhong Wenmin of China 143-53 in the first qualifying-round match and then came from behind to defeat another Hong Kong player David Yao 123-113 to earn his main round berth. Leung defeat Sou Kok Leong of Macau 169-29 and then Hong Kong's top player Franky Chan 127-83 to met Fairbrother in the main draw.

Source: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/122285755

According to this article, Wattana won this title the previous year but can't find more info about it. Therocket1990 (talk) 10:29, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

A Barnstar for you!

		Red Link Removal Barnstar
		Thank you for heavily reducing the redlinks for the yearly events of the World Women's Snooker Championship. With your persistence, almost all of the redlinks are gone! Keep up the good work :) MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you MrLinkinPark333! Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:13, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

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Women's snooker

Hi, I'm hoping you can clear up some confusion for me. I was planning to add achievement boxes similar to Reanne Evans#Achievements for some of the female snooker players. Mandy Fisher#Career Highlights show she won the 1980 Pontins Women's Champion and Sue Foster as being the 1983 Women's World Snooker Championship - sponsored by Pontins. However, the Template:World Women's Snooker Championship and Template:World Women's Snooker champions show Sue Foster as the 1983 winner but 1980's winner as Lesley McIlrath as also shown on 1980 Women's World Open (snooker) at Warners Sinah Warren Holiday Camp, Hayling Island, sponsored by Guinness. So what was the "Pontins Women's Champion" competition that Fisher won in 1980? --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 02:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi, The Vintage Feminist. The Pontins championships for women ran alongside some of the Pontins Open events and were not world championships. I don't think we have those women's tournaments on Wikipedia at the moment - I'll see if I've got the sources to add them in. You may find this a useful resource for some past results going back to 1983 - e.g. see Mandy Fisher. Let me know if there's anything I can help with. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:26, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

Pontin's Women's Championships 1977 (first event) to 1984. (Events after 1984 still to be added):

Year	Venue	Winner	Runner-up	Final score	Ref.
1977	Prestatyn	Agnes Davies	Sue Foster	3–1
1978	Prestatyn	Ann Johnson	Sue Foster	3-1
1979	Prestatyn	Maureen Baynton	Agnes Davies	3-0
1980	Prestatyn	Mandy Fisher	Sian Newbury	3–2
1980	Camber Sands	A. Burns	L. Kellerer	3–1
1981	Prestatyn	Lesley McIlrath	J. Hanlon	3–0
1982	Prestatyn	Agnes Davies	Sue Foster	3–0
1983	Prestatyn	Sue Foster	Grace Nakamura	3–1
1983	Brean Sands	1983 Women's World Snooker Championship
1984	Prestatyn	Julie Dowen	L. Lucas	3–2
1985	Prestatyn	Allison Fisher	A. Jones	3–0
1986	Prestatyn	Allison Fisher	Caroline Walch	3–0
1987	Prestatyn	Stacey Hillyard	Caroline Walch	3–1
1988	Prestatyn	Allison Fisher	Ann-Marie Farren	4–1
1989	Prestatyn	Ann-Marie Farren	Tessa Davidson	3–0
1990	Prestatyn	Stacey Hillyard	Georgina Aplin	3–0
1991	Prestatyn	Tessa Davidson	Ann-Marie Farren	4–2
1992	Prestatyn	Allison Fisher	Ann-Marie Farren	3–1
1993	Prestatyn	Allison Fisher	Karen Corr	4–3
1994	Prestatyn	Karen Corr	Lisa Quick	4–1

So Sue Foster won the Pontins 1983 Women's World Snooker Championship beating Maureen Baynton 8-5 in the final and also won Pontins 1983 championship for women beating Grace Nakamura 3–1 which was not a world championship. I think that was where I was getting lost. Thanks. --The Vintage Feminist (talk) 16:33, 26 August 2020 (UTC)

References

Cliff Thorburn 1974 Championship

Can I ask why do you keep going on about this event ?. Does it really matter at the end of the day  ?. Why do you keep on about it ?. Regards-31.200.156.207 (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2020 (UTC)

Missing match

Congrats on finding an unknown World Championship match. Does't happen every day. Nigej (talk) 09:06, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

I was similarly impressed. I had seen a match in the 1954 NoTW tournament with the two when I was searching for sources, but overlooked it. Clearly a keen eye! Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 09:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

Thanks Nigej and Lee Vilenski - the May article with the draw was a lucky find. If I'd filtered the search by month I wouldn't have seen it, and then would have had no reason to search for the players' names together in articles. Makes my paid subscription to the British Newspaper Archive worthwhile! Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 10:32, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

1974 Canadian professional Championship

why did you remove this from Thorburn's page that is absolute bs. It is clearly not the pro am event from 1974 as that had a different score. Why didn't you just leave it alone ?. Independent events were staged back then no one else had a problem with it's inclusion. So why did you remove it  ?. 80.233.83.86 (talk) 18:06, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

Please discuss on the talk page there. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:29, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

We have talked on the talk page there everyone seemed happy to leave it in. I asked you a question here before did you find his World Masters win in Australia in 1974 or his Lada Snooker Tournament win in 1980 when he beat Higgins in the final ?. 31.200.164.235 (talk) 01:40, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

There is some coverage of the 1974 World Masters in Australian newspapers, probably enough for an article. Thorburn defeated John Spencer 160-67 in the final. (I assume that this is points not frames.) I'll have more of a look later. (Andygray110 - FYI). BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 13:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)

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Precious anniversary

Precious

One year!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:57, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

• Thank you, Gerda Arendt! Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:07, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
	Great work on all that you've put together over the last year or so. Impressive stuff! Keep it up Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski (talk • contribs) 21:04, 5 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Benny

Can you help me with a little tournament that was staged in China in 2019 if I give you the info I have please ?. You know how to find these events, I have no clue. Regards 92.251.250.3 (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi, if you can give me the details you have, and it meets the criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia, I'll see what I can do. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:18, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi Ronnie, John Higgins, Marco Fu and Liang Wenbo played in a 4 man round robin event in Huizhou in China in 2019. Ronnie won his 3 group matches where each player played the other once to win the league format. It said the source was Weibo but I don't have a clue how you would check it out ?. I know you would be a good man for this stuff. I am looking to find results or who came second in the group ?. Regards 92.251.203.121 (talk) 23:38, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to have been covered even in Snooker Scene - I wonder if it was really an exhibition rather than a proper tournament? See here. Let me know if you do find any other details. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 09:54, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

It was the "Huizhou Challenge Exhibition", from 2019. Not a notable competition; and I did have a look through the sources I could find, and there is no real details, other than Higgins/O'Sullivan beat Fu/Wenbo 3-2 in a doubles match, and O'Sullivan won the three round robin matches. Hope that's of some help.Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 12:45, 18 April 2021 (UTC)

Lee do you have results of the round robin matches where Ronnie won the league by any chance ?. It says Weibo was the source is there any way of using that guys ?. Many thanks 92.251.228.217 (talk) 02:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Sadly not. Weibo is like the Chinese facebook [4]. None of my usual sources have anything to say about it, so it's likely that someone in attendance, or the people who ran the exhibition shared it on there. It was broadcast on Zhibo.tv, which is an OTT streaming service in China; so there might be something on there, but I don't really have much info on the China only stuff! I'm not particularly convinced the Haining Open is notable. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:57, 19 April 2021 (UTC)

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Regal Scottish Masters 1995

Hi Benny I wanted to ask you how the player called Alan Burnett qualified to get a place in the 1995 Scottish Masters after the withdrawal of James Wattana. I was wondering how he was picked as the replacement as he was not a big name i found a source to explain his inclusion in the event.. 31.200.179.231 (talk) 12:22, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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Qualifying event finals

Benny will you reply to me when you get this I want to ask you a question please 178.167.135.207 (talk) 13:58, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

What is the question? Next time just ask it. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:45, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Talkin' Bear Mountain Picnic Massacre Blues

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Championship League Snooker 2021/2022

Hi Benny how are you doing ?. Do you know if there will be a best of 5 frames final in the upcoming 128 man ranking event taking place in the Morningside arena in Leicester or will it just be decided by a group stage round-robin, do you have any idea ? Again there is very little to go in on the tournament. Cheers 31.200.154.125 (talk) 22:54, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

No idea. We'll have to wait and find out. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:56, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

Cheers 178.167.247.140 (talk) 18:15, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

1985 Kit Kat Break for World Champions

Hello Benny how are you ?. I say the latest being discussed about dropping Kit Kat from the tournament name on a talk page. I know Kit Kat were sponsors but it would look absolutely pathetic to call the event "Break for World Champions". It makes no sense and looks absolutely stupid. Do you agree ?. People get too excited on here about trivial stuff.cheers 31.200.154.125 (talk) 23:02, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

Best place to discuss this is at Talk:1985_Kit_Kat_Break_for_World_Champions#Requested_move_6_June_2021. See Wikipedia:Article titles. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 19:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

I did see it but some people on hear don't like to hear other people's points of view. In your opinion would you keep the Kit-Kat in the title ?.178.167.247.140 (talk) 18:16, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

Dooks, you have been told a million times to log in if you are going to use wikipedia. This is some pretty blatent WP:FORUMSHOPPING.

Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 07:55, 14 June 2021 (UTC)

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Terri Harper

Thanks for taking the time to start the review process, much appreciated. I'll work through your points over the next few days and give you a ping when I've completed them. – ².O.^Boxing 17:00, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

And thanks for all the cleanup and other improvements you've made in the past to articles I've created about boxers, Squared.Circle.Boxing. I'm expecting to learn from the review, so, as mentioned, happy to discuss or be challenged on any of my points. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:09, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

1989 Hong Kong Gold Cup final

Hi I would you to help me out please. This has been removed from Steve Davis tournament wins because the claim the source is not good enough. I have Eurosport coverage with Davis clinching the title on the clip with the winning margin of 6–3 against Alex Higgins shown on the video. I have also pointed out that the 1989 Hong Kong Gold Cup has its own page with sources but you have to register to view them. Benny I am sure that you produced a newspaper report from somewhere on this match saying Davis beat Alex Higgins 6–3. Would you be able to find that article for me when you get a chance please ?. It would help. Kind Regards T 80.233.81.94 (talk) 14:34, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

• That newspaper article does not have the result of the final. I've checked Snooker Scene, The Benson and Hedges Snooker Yearbook that covers that season, the Official 1990 Matchroom Snooker Special, the British Newspaper Archive, the Internet Archive, and several other newspaper databases and not found a result. I really don't think that event counts as notable. If that video was on an official Eurosport YouTube channel it might be OK, but it isn't on an official channel. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:58, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

I have found a link that nigej posted on this. He found an article from the Times on 4 September 1989 and it simply has the scoreline of the final of the Hong Kong Tournament Steve Davis 6–3 Alex Higgins and a few other pieces. So it is there OK. Can you take a look please ?. Thanks a lot mate. 178.167.154.158 (talk) 13:49, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

It's there - it doesn't use the phrase "Gold Cup", but as the description has "HONG KONG: International Tournament: Final" and has Davis 6-3 Higgins, seems fine to me. "title=For the record: snooker |work=The Times |location=London |date=4 September 1989 |page=39". Lee Vilenski FYI. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:16, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, seems good enough to me. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 14:17, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

So Lee all this proves is that you would have deleted a perfectly good tournament win for Steve Davis because a YouTube video showing him winning the title from Eurosport footage was deemed not to be accepted. Do you think we could change the youtube video rules in the future in fairness because other low key non-ranking events may slip through the gap otherwise if that proves to be the only source ?. We all want to add all events that we can find not get rid of them. I am happy it was found 178.167.154.158 (talk) 15:04, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

I removed uncited material as per a consensus. No, we cannot change the rules on unreliable sources. We all want to add all events that we can find not get rid of them, no we should be adding information that meets our policies on WP:V and WP:OR. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 15:54, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

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The third round of the 2021 WikiCup has now come to an end. Each of the sixteen contestants who made it into the fourth round had at least 294 points, and our top six scorers all had over 600 points. They were:

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Proposed Women in Green Editathon

Hello BennyOnTheLoose -- With the goal of helping to progress the WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) women’s rights-themed GA nomination goal for 2021, I’m proposing that WiG hold a special editathon event in the fall (maybe October/November?). I can assist with logistics, but I need to know how much interest/support there might be from WiG participants first. Please let me know what you think in the talk page conversation! All the best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 01:46, 20 July 2021 (UTC)

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International Park Drive Championship

Hello I would like to know why you decided to delete these events as you said it was talked about on the talkpage ?. I don't see anywhere on the talkpage where it said to remove them ?. Lots of tournaments are not sourced for other older players and the events are not removed so these events should remain the same. Older events will sometimes have no source but we are not going to remove events willy nilly. Regards 178.167.231.85 (talk) 13:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

Please see WP:V. I mentioned it on the talkpage at Talk:Ray_Reardon#International_Park_Drive_Championship? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 14:24, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

If we can't source it, we shouldn't have it on the encyclopedia. Just because other pages have things unsourced, doesn't mean that this one should have as well. Please read WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 16:45, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

I've double checked Snooker Scene for the whole of 1974 and the start of 1975 and there is no reference at all to these, even though the magazine covered many small tournaments and even reported on some money matches. Unless there is any evidence that these events happened, I'll remove them in the next day or so. As per WP:V mentioned above, Wikipedia "content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of editors. Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it". I'll copy the conversation here to the talkpage there, too. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:40, 5 August 2021 (UTC)

There is coverage on Fouldys frames of the third final in this using ITV footage.it was played in the Cooksworty Mens club in Sheffield in 1974 80.233.21.76 (talk) 20:58, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

This should be discussed on the article talk page, not here. It would be easier to maintain a discussion if you would log in rather than keep using different IP addresses to edit. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:00, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

Other editiors were going to delete the 1989 Hong Kong Gold Cup because it was using Eurosport footage on YouTube. Some wanted to delete it leaving Steve Davis incorrectly on 83 titles until I remembered a source to prove he had won 84 titles. People should not be so quick to delete titles off here just because they are not sourced does not mean they did not take place. These are old events it is sometimes very hard or the odd time impossible to find information. I hope this helps Benny 80.233.21.76 (talk) 21:02, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

You seem to have a completely warped view of how Wikipedia works. It simply isn't where we put things we think are true. You can't just link to copyrighted YouTube videos and suggest we use that, nor retain information we cannot cite. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:14, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

No I have a crystal clear view of how it works actually, and I remember now it was you that removed Steve Davis title of the 1989 Hong Kong Gold Cup win from his homepage which would have left him on 83 career titles and I actually sought for it to be included which it was and rightly so. Or we would have the wrong number of career titles for Steve Davis. Wikipedia is like life sometimes it is not always black and white. 80.233.21.76 (talk) 21:32, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

It was removed because when I was reviewing the Steve Davis page, I pointed out that the information was not verified. Once we had a reliable source available, the event was added back. To repeat what I copied from a Wikipedia policy above, "Even if you are sure something is true, it must be verifiable before you can add it." BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:46, 10 August 2021 (UTC)

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1983 World Snooker Championship

Hello Benny, there appears to be a problem introduced by your recent edits to 1983 World Snooker Championship. The named reference "ALM19" is showing a "defined multiple times with different content" error. Looks like different page numbers given for the entries. Could you take a look? Regards. Keith D (talk) 11:58, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Hi Keith D, thanks for letting me know. I think I've fixed it now. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 12:23, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks, looks as that fixes problem. Keith D (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2021 (UTC)

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CP listing on August 23

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Your GA nomination of Alice Milliat

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Your GA nomination of Amee Kamani

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WikiCup 2021 September newsletter

The fourth round of the competition has finished with over 500 points being required to qualify for the final round. It was a hotly competitive round with two contestants, The Rambling Man and Epicgenius, each scoring over 3000 points, and six contestants scoring over 1000. All but one of the finalists achieved one or more FAs during the round, the exception being Bloom6132 who demonstrated that 61 "in the news" items produces an impressive number of points. Other contestants who made it to the final are Gog the Mild, Lee Vilenski, BennyOnTheLoose, Amakuru and Hog Farm. However, all their points are now swept away and everyone starts afresh in the final round.

Round 4 saw the achievement of 18 featured articles and 157 good articles. Bilorv scored for a 25-article good topic on Black Mirror but narrowly missed out on qualifying for the final round. There was enthusiasm for FARs, with 89 being performed, and there were 63 GARs and around 100 DYKs during the round. As we start round 5, we say goodbye to the eight competitors who didn't quite make it to the final round; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia, and we hope you will join us again next year. For other contestants, remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 14 days of "earning" them.

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed (remember to remove your listing when no longer required). If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to help keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:01, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Alice Milliat

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Your GA nomination of 1938 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1938 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1938 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of Teresa Billington-Greig

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Your GA nomination of Teresa Billington-Greig

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Your GA nomination of Clive Everton

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Your GA nomination of Teresa Billington-Greig

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Your GA nomination of Clive Everton

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Your GA nomination of Cornelia Sorabji

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Your GA nomination of This Is What She's Like

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Your GA nomination of Cornelia Sorabji

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Your GA nomination of This Is What She's Like

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Your GA nomination of Cornelia Sorabji

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Your GA nomination of This Is What She's Like

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Your GA nomination of Clive Everton

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Strafford Professional 1970

Hi Benny how are you doing ?. I noticed in the Strafford Professional 1970 it said Gary Owen beat the title holder who was Ray Reardon, this implies that there was a possible Strafford Professional in 1969 that Reardon won. Can you check this out for me please ?. Regards 92.251.158.230 (talk) 21:10, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) That newspaper article is referring to the fact Reardon was world champion at the time, not that there was a previous tournament. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:21, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Firstly i was asking benny a question, secondly is there an source available where i can see this article referring to Reardon as champion ?. Finally more importantly i don't know why or like the fact that you called me a page watcher/stalker in your reply. As i said i was just asking a question. 92.251.168.42 (talk) 22:41, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

That is the source, I am telling you what the source says. I also have access to the British Newspaper Archive. The article specifically says that he defeated Reardon, who was the world champion, not that there was a 1969 champion. I am a talk page watcher, which is why I denote such a thing in my reply. I would not feel comfortable quoting what is actually said in the article to Wikipedia due to our copyright rules. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 22:56, 17 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Atul Gawande

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Your GA nomination of Atul Gawande

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Your GA nomination of Atul Gawande

The article Atul Gawande you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Atul Gawande for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already appeared on the main page as a "Did you know" item, or as a bold link under "In the News" or in the "On This Day" prose section, you can nominate it within the next seven days to appear in DYK. Bolded names with dates listed at the bottom of the "On This Day" column do not affect DYK eligibility. I'm adding this template myself because I wanted to say I hope I handled what was the weirdest GA I've ever done well because really it was really a “procedural review”—it had gone through so much review that you had every comment necessary to fix it up, so there was barely anything wrong with the article at all. I didn't write much not for lack of trying, but for lack of substantive issues…when I'm verifying references we're in “there's nothing wrong with this page” territory, I only got lucky to find a single valid {{failed verification}}. Otherwise I would've had to write something like " procedurally passed" Psiĥedelisto (talk • contribs) ^{please always ping!} 21:05, 18 September 2021 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
	For your valued work in the July 2021 GAN Backlog Drive, which, in a single month, helped to reduce the backlog by nearly 50%. --Usernameunique (talk) 04:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)

Walter Donaldson (snooker player)

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Walter Donaldson (snooker player) has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Congratulations on taking the article to GA status.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 15:03, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Many thanks for this, Twofingered Typist. It is much appreciated. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:49, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

Help to Move Draft:Ganeshamangalam to MainSpace Article

Hello:

I would like to request a change of Draft article Draft:Ganeshamangalam to MainSpace Article from you. Can you do it? As because of experienced wikipedia editor for 2 years, well user, i am requesting you to move it after checking all the errors and mistakes in Draft:Ganeshamangalam

Regards

Xavier 500.30.10 (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

question for you about new events

Hi Benny i would like to talk to you about adding possible non-ranking events that i have heard about. Can you hit me back when you can please and i will explain all. Thank you 178.167.194.229 (talk) 18:08, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Benny are you there please ?. 92.251.174.44 (talk) 12:16, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of 1976 World Professional Match-play Championship

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20-minute article assessment volunteers

Hi BennyOnTheLoose -- I'm just checking in with volunteers for the WiG Good Article Editathon (starting tomorrow!). Are you still set to help out with the 20-minute article assessments? You can watchlist the requests page here. Basic plan: as requests come in, volunteers will mark the request as "in progress," leave their comments on the talk page of the article, then mark the request as "done". We'll be aiming to identify any major issues in articles and suggest priorities for the editor to work on. If you have any questions/concerns, just let me know. Best, Alanna the Brave (talk) 18:40, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Hi Alanna the Brave, I'm still keen on helping out, and have watchlisted that page. I'll also look to do some GA reviews, and hopefully nominate an article or two myself. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:30, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Fabulous! Thank you. :-) Alanna the Brave (talk) 00:12, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1976 World Professional Match-play Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1976 World Professional Match-play Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1954 World Professional Match-play Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1937 World Snooker Championship

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Promotion of 1988 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of Margaret Llewelyn Davies

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Your GA nomination of Margaret Llewelyn Davies

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Your GA nomination of Margaret Llewelyn Davies

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Promotion of 2015 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1954 World Professional Match-play Championship

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Your GA nomination of Edith Margaret Garrud

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Your GA nomination of 1954 World Professional Match-play Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1937 World Snooker Championship

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Your GA nomination of 1952 World Professional Match-play Championship

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WikiCup 2021 November newsletter

The WikiCup is over for another year and the finalists can relax! Our Champion this year is The Rambling Man (submissions), who amassed over 5000 points in the final round, achieving 8 featured articles and almost 500 reviews. It was a very competitive round; seven of the finalists achieved over 1000 points in the round (enough to win the 2019 contest), and three scored over 3000 (enough to win the 2020 event). Our 2021 finalists and their scores were:

1. The Rambling Man (submissions) with 5072 points
2. Lee Vilenski (submissions) with 3276 points
3. Amakuru (submissions) with 3197 points
4. Epicgenius (submissions) with 1611 points
5. Gog the Mild (submissions) with 1571 points
6. BennyOnTheLoose (submissions) with 1420 points
7. Hog Farm (submissions) with 1043 points
8. Bloom6132 (submissions) with 528 points

All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.

• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the featured article prize, for 8 FAs in round 5.
• Lee Vilenski (submissions) wins the featured list prize, for 3 FLs in round 5.
• Gog the Mild (submissions) wins the featured topic prize, for 13 articles in a featured topic in round 5.
• Epicgenius (submissions) wins the good article prize, for 63 GAs in round 4.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the good topic prize, for 86 articles in good topics in round 5.
• The Rambling Man (submissions) wins the reviewer prize, for 68 FAC reviews and 213 GAN reviews, both in round 5.
• Epicgenius (submissions) wins the DYK prize, for 30 did you know articles in round 3 and 105 overall.
• Bloom6132 (submissions) wins the ITN prize, for 71 in the news articles in round 1 and 284 overall.

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Wrong infobox

I've been tidying up the snooker infoboxes and I notice that for 1961 Women's Amateur Snooker Championship and 1962 Women's Amateur Snooker Championship we are using {{Infobox snooker tournament}} rather than {{Infobox individual snooker tournament}} which is more appropriate for these sort of articles. If you switch you'll have to remove the "establishment" parameter which won't work (add in the text perhaps) but parameters like "dates" will work. There are some bizarre differences between two like "logo" for "image". When editing you now get a list of invalid parameters at the top which can help. I can have a go if you prefer. Nigej (talk) 15:55, 12 November 2021 (UTC)

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I notice that you added some stuff to Snooker world rankings 1984/1985 awhile back. I've been adding to 1982 International Open and that got me trying to understand the ranking system at the time. Up to 1982 they used a 3 year system based on the World Championships (5,4,3,2,1). The list at Snooker world rankings 1982/1983 makes some sense. The first tie-breaker seems to be the most points in the most recent WC (1982 World Snooker Championship in that case), explaining eg the Charlton (3 points), Stevens (2), Mountjoy (1) order (each had a total of 6 points). Higgins (10) should be ahead of Reardon (9) but he was docked 2 points. For Snooker world rankings 1983/1984 we've got the two extra events. I notice in Snooker world rankings 1984/1985 that it says "Points for World Championship finishes were now worth double" but it seems that it was only the 1983 World Snooker Championship that got double points, not 1982 and 1981. The rankings at Snooker world rankings 1983/1984 then make sense: 4 events worth up to 5 points and 1 event with double points. The first tie-breaker is points in the 1983 WC, the second tie-breaker seems to be the number of frames won in the match they lost in the 1983 WC (eg Knowles/Higgins both 13 total points, both 3 points in 1983 WC, Knowles lost 15-16 in the semis, Higgins 5-16, so Knowles gets 4th place, Higgins 5th). Don't expect a reply just needed to write it down somewhere and thought you might be interested too. Nigej (talk) 15:32, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

Hi Nigej. Fantastic work on the infoboxes, thanks. You're right that I'm interested in rankings - I spent many hours in the late 80s poring over the ranking lists. An example probably helps! Let's look at Davis. You're right that 1981 and 1982 weren't increased to double points.

For 1983/84, Davis had 17 points. (2 from Jameson; 0 from PPT; 5 + 0 + 10 from World Championship. Higgins received 5 points as 1982 World Champion).

For 1984/85, Davis had 32 points and 0.5 merit points (2 + 5 from Jameson; 0 + .5merit from PPT; 5 from Lada; and 0 + 10 +10 from World Championship).

I'll populate some more ranking articles in future, from Snooker Scene and/or the Benson and Hedges Snooker Year books. But I still don't know why for 1984/85 Parrott (5 points & 0.5 merits) was above Wildman (5 points and 2 merits) - only reason I can guess is that it's because Parrott got his ranking points in a single season. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 20:24, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I think that would very useful. The articles like Snooker world rankings 1983/1984 are terribly dull at the moment. They need this sort of information in them even if we don't know 100% of the details (eg the tie-breaker rules). Nigej (talk) 21:02, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

I've added tables to the ranking articles up to Snooker world rankings 1983/1984. I'm hoping you'll add some reference sometime. A few issue come up. For 1983/84 the list we have for the players with 0 points, from 29 to 32, differs from that in https://web.archive.org/web/20120608214119/http://www.cajt.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/HistoricRank1.html and probably comes from cuetracker. However I'm thinking the current one may be correct. When Mike Hallett beat Steve Davis in the 1983 Professional Players Tournament he was referred to as "32nd ranked" (https://www.newspapers.com/clip/90087277/evening-standard/) although other articles by Clive Everton say he was ranked 31. For 1984/85 I even more confused. Immediately after the 1984 world championship rankings were published in the press: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/90087001/evening-standard/ https://www.newspapers.com/clip/90086960/the-guardian/ where the tie-breaker was the performance in the 1984 WC. This put Dennis Taylor ahead of Meo, Parrott at 20 (presumably Wildman at 21), Foulds "moves up to 25" (as the only one of the 2-pointers to reach the last-16). No mention of merit points. Presumably merit points came in at some point and the ties were changed. When this happened is not clear to me, but presumably when it did happen someone made a mistake and left Parrott ahead of Wildman. Nigej (talk) 20:48, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I've added a table to Snooker world rankings 1984/1985 as well. Perhaps you can compare that to your information. Nigej (talk) 11:40, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

For 1981/82, the CueTracker book has Higgins ranked 11th, as does snooker.org. He was the 11th seed for the 1982 World Snooker Championship. However, Snooker Scene for June 1981 has him ranked 10th, with 5 points; (7, less 2 deducted for "ungentlemanly behaviour" on 24 February 1981). Turner's site also has him 10th. Any ideas, Nigej? BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:44, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

I hadn't meant to change the order! Should be able to find a reference for Higgins 2 point deduction. Since the tie-breaker seems to have been the 1981 World Snooker Championship it would make sense to have Kirk before Alex, since Kirk lost 13-11 and Alex 13-8 in the last-16 matches. A Clive Everton article from 2 Dec 1981 says "Higgins now 11th in the official WPBSA world rankings". Nigej (talk) 19:04, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Wondering whether Higgins was docked 2 points in Snooker world rankings 1983/1984 too? Difficult to tell without knowing the points since he'd be 5th either way I think. Nigej (talk) 20:37, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

He was, but, as you say, it made no difference to the standings. There seems to be something odd with the snooker.org list - it misses numbers 24 and 27. I've amended the article's list per Snooker Scene. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:02, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Nigej, for Snooker world rankings 1984/1985 and others where merit points are involved, how about either having merit points in parentheses, and/or a different background colour for world championships? (Using both might be overkill.) I find it a bit difficult to work out at the moment. I think the total columns should probably also be formatted differently, perhaps with bold? Samples below. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:38, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Ranking	Name	1982 WC	1982 IO	1982 PPT	1983 WC	1983 IO	1983 PPT	1984 Cl	1984 WC	Total	Merit points
1	Steve Davis (ENG)	0	2	–	10	5	(0.5)	5	10	32	(0.5)
2	Tony Knowles (ENG)	2	5	(0.5)	6	1	5	2	0	21	(0.5)

Ranking	Name	1982 WC	1982 IO	1982 PPT	1983 WC	1983 IO	1983 PPT	1984 Cl	1984 WC	Total	Merit points
1	Steve Davis (ENG)	0	2	–	10	5	(0.5)	5	10	32	(0.5)
2	Tony Knowles (ENG)	2	5	(0.5)	6	1	5	2	0	21	(0.5)

One issue to aware of is MOS:COLOR which says "Especially, do not use colored text or background unless its status is also indicated using another method ...". This generally means that we need a symbol too to meet this rule. see Triple Crown (snooker)#Tournament winners. Perhaps we can get away with a symbol in the header. The same could apply to the bold text. I'm assuming the brackets would be ok. Lee's more an expert on these issues than I am. Nigej (talk) 19:05, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

- speak my name three times, and I shall appear. Indeed, Nigej is bang on the money. Although, as this is just one event, simply add a †, and have done with it. You'll need a key for the table. Might I suggest that rather than "1994 IO" as a header, you have a top header for the years. Best Wishes, Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:59, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Amended to parentheses for merit points. Sort was a bit eccentric; it seems to work for me if the data is treated as text, but let me know if you find any issues. I had a look at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Tables and saw a snooker example there, but I'm not sure it's that great as it has colours which aren't explained, sorts by full name rather than surname (in fact, if I click sort by name a couple of times I get some strange and inconsistent orderings), can be sorted by ref., and doesn't use flagathlete. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:55, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

I've added a table for Snooker world rankings 1985/1986. I can extend it further (beyond 55) if you think it's worthwhile. As previously it sort of makes sense. I gathered somewhere that Silvino Francisco was docked 2 points but it didn't seem to affect his position. A few mysteries Tony Meo ahead of Willie Thorne. Also Parrott again and Neal Foulds. I wondering whether the new pro were given merit points based on performances as amateurs (although wouldn't account for Meo). Of course I might have made mistakes. Nigej (talk) 17:52, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I'd love the table completed, but I struggle with doing them. Weirdly, neither Snooker Scene or the 1986/86 Rothmans Snooker Yearbook includes merit points, except in totals. (I assume the Rothmans list is a copy and paste of the Snooker Scene one.) They have Davis with 1.5 merit points, Thorburn and Knowles with 2 each, and other discrepancies with "your" list, but I believe yours is correct. I added a bit to the article about how positions were determined, which I hope makes sense. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 21:23, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

'Ill add to the table tomorrow if I can. I'm wondering now whether the rule about winning one match to get merit points might have been dropped at some stage. Such a change would only affect the top-16 players in certain events, where they got a bye to the last-32, but might perhaps explain why Meo is ahead of Thorne (although I've not done the sums yet). Maybe not, since they's no obvious way to get Davis to 1.5 or Thorburn to 2, even with that change. It wouldn't explain the Parrott situation anyway. Nigej (talk) 21:57, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

I've got something ready for Snooker world rankings 1986/1987. As regarding ranking points they reduced it to a 2-year system, so 12 events (6+6). Points from 84/85 were retained. For 85/86 they changed the system to give points from the last-32 stage, mainly because the leading players started at the last-64 stage (except for the WC). For 5 of the ranking events they used a 6-5-4-3-2-1 system. For the WC they seemed to have used a 10-8-6-4-2-1 system (1 point only for those outside the top-16, who had to win at least 1 match). This gives a good fit to the rankings we have. As ever the tie-breakers are not clear. It seem perhaps that the first tie-breaker was total points in 85/86 (Meo ahead of Silvino, Williams ahead of Parrott). I can't tell whether merit points were still being used (or even whether any were give in 85/86) but maybe that was still used as a tie-breaker. Nigej (talk) 17:47, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Excellent. Apparently for 1986/87: "where there is an equality of ranking points, performances in the immediately preceding season ... decide the placing. Only if these too are equal are merit points taken into account ... If a player has no ranking points and his merit points are thus his primary points, secondary factors (like 'A' points and frames won) come into the reckoning only if performances in 1985-86 are equal." (Snooker Scene, July 1986) "A points" are not defined there, so I'll see if I can find them. Peter Francisco has one from the 1985 Goya, and Marcel Gauvreau has 4, one from each 1986-86 ranking event, except the Mercantile Credit Classic and the World Championship. Also unexplained, but in line with the mysterious merit points in the previous year's table in the magazine, Davis is listed as having 3 ranking and half a merit point from the 1984 Rothmans, and 3 Ranking and half a merit from the 1985 British Open. I have no idea why. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Oh boy. Snooker Scene July 1984 reports that "The WPBSA have ruled that players who have won qualifying groups in ranking competitions and progressed further than the first round proper should receive both ranking and merit points." Changes as a result: Meo to 10th and Dennis Taylor to 11th; Reynolds to 22, Wilson to 23; Fagan to 37 and Scott to 38. I think Fagan and Scott are to be swapped in the current article version. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:59, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

A lot to take in. Perhaps I'll put a table in for starters without merit points at all. Nigej (talk) 19:03, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

We knew before that if you had to play at least 1 match to get to last-32 you got a merit point (half or one) but it seems that if you then won and reached the last-16 you not only got a ranking point (maybe more) but you kept the merit point. The same applied to the top players if they had to start at the last-64 stage (in 85/86 that was 5 of the 6 events). They also got a merit point (half or one) for reaching the last-32 (which I knew before) and they also kept that even if they progressed further (which I hadn't added in before). Bit of work for me to do to my spreadsheet. Nigej (talk) 19:44, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Or maybe I'm all wrong. Still can't really understand it yet. Nigej (talk) 19:50, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

I've updated Snooker world rankings 1984/1985 based on the new merit point rule. Currently I've simply added a "+" to indicate that the player got merit points (half or one) in addition to the ranking points but I can easily change that to any other style. In some ways it's easier with the new rule. In the WC all 16 qualifiers got a merit point (so 16 in total), in the PPT all 32 first round winners got half a merit point (so 32*0.5=16 in total) and in the other 3 events, all the 16 qualifiers to the last-32 stage got half a merit point (so 8 in total). So I've got a total of 3*16+2*16+3*8=104 merit points in addition to the 310 ranking point total (2*62+6*31). 4 differences from the numbers you put in: Virgo I've got 2.5 not 1.5, Wilson 4 not 2, Hallett 4.5 not 2.5 and Watterson 2 not 3. Pretty good I think, considering the chances of making mistakes somewhere along the line. I haven't changed the order of the players, feel free to do so. Still something of mystery there. Nigej (talk) 08:05, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

I've also updated Snooker world rankings 1985/1986 on the same basis, i.e. you got merit points if you got to the last-32 stage by winning at least one match (ie you started at the last-64/last-48 or earlier) but I've no idea whether that's the way the system worked. Nigej (talk) 13:06, 10 December 2021 (UTC)

Yes, merit points if "you got to the last-32 stage by winning at least one match" - the qualifying is typically referred to in sources at the time as groups, whereas later sources generally just show results or a draw. (E.g. for 1984 World Championship: Parrott, D. Hughes, Everton and Mans were "Qualifying Group 1".) Some of the points discrepancies are my failed transcriptions: Snooker Scene has 4 merit points for Wilson and 2 for Watterson as per your calculations. For Hallett it has 4, and 1.5 for Virgo. Looking at the following year's rankings in the B&H yearbook, for the single season 1984/85, Hallett and Virgo both have 3 from that year; Hallett missing out only at the International Open, and Virgo missing out only at the UK. I think we are justified in using your calculations and ignoring typos/errors in sources. I added merit points in brackets to Snooker world rankings 1985/1986 which I think looks OK, but I've not changed any other year until we agree, or a consensus forms. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 18:51, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

With my default settings I get a large amount of "wrapping". It's OK If I drop to 90% character size or even change "Ranking" to "Rank". The trouble for me is that when it does wrap, pretty much every line wraps and the table is very difficult to read. Perhaps @Lee Vilenski: could comment. Per discussion above I'm wondering whether A points are Amateur points since they mostly seem to be given to fairly new pros. Mind you this still doesn't explain how Meo's ahead of Thorne, so still some mysteries to solve. Nigej (talk) 20:21, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

Trying to work out what A points were for. It seems they were first awarded in 1985-86. In my sample, Peter Francisco (85 Goya), Steve Longworth (86 Classic), Jim Wych (85 GP), Duggan (85 UK and 86 Classic), Marcel Gauvreau (85 Goya, GP, UK; 86 British Open), Steve Newbury (86 Classic), Warren King (85 GP, 86 British Open) and Patsy Fagan (85 GP, 86 Classic & WC) all got A points for losing their first match in the last 96! Drago got his A point from the 86 WC, where he won one match before losing in the last 96. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 22:34, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

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Tessa Sanderson copyedit

Many thanks, Miniapolis. Much appreciated. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:20, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello Benny

How are you doing today ? Will you reply when you get this please I have a question for you ? Thanks 77.75.244.10 (talk) 19:05, 28 February 2022 (UTC)